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Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by calllighta Health. Welcome into

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Thanks for joining us. I'm Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: Brownie is off for the week and we are going

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Speaker 1: to be joined I guess for the rest of the

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Speaker 1: week now, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're stuck with me.

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Speaker 1: Sports director from w i v B Channel four here

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, Josh Ree Josh, thanks for coming on, friend

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Speaker 1: of the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, friendly fire, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know where else you would you rather

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Speaker 3: be when the gray skies are hanging.

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Speaker 2: Out of our heads and there's no golf to be played.

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Speaker 1: I have was walked through the facility this time a

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Speaker 1: year ago. Actually it's a back April of a year ago.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you remember last year it

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Speaker 1: was a rough spring and as it always is here right,

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Speaker 1: and cross paths with Cole Bishop and it's his first

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Speaker 1: off season and I go, hey, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You staying here? He goes, yeah, I'm here. I go,

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Speaker 1: so what are you doing? You've been doing a thing?

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Speaker 1: He's I don't know. I go, I go, believe me,

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Speaker 1: I go.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 1: Usually by April fifteenth we're on the golf course. April

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Speaker 1: fifteenth years there usually and it's he goes yeah, I go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I go, and I you're right. For people who don't

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Speaker 1: live here, winter's not what gets you for most of it.

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Speaker 2: It's this.

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Speaker 1: It's March gets its. March and April is what gets you.

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Speaker 1: It's the six weeks of thirty eight in rain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there'll be a pop of fifty two

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Speaker 3: degrees in sunny, just enough to get those hopes up

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Speaker 3: and going, oh we turned the corner and then twenty

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Speaker 3: eight degrees.

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Speaker 1: Then that's right, Yeah, you get Like last week, it

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Speaker 1: got up after the stretch of a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: we had that really snack cold bitter weather we had

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Speaker 1: for it stretched out for a couple of weeks, it

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Speaker 1: got to forty and sunny. I was like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: want to, you know, I want to. Yeah, we're my clubs.

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Speaker 2: I went out to Delaware Park.

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Speaker 1: It was packed. Yeah, packed.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's out and it was forty eight. Right, everybody's in shorts.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's like, ah, this is off the shorts. We are

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Speaker 1: we are goners. But that's the way it is. This timing.

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Speaker 1: This is when even the locals like Brownie this week

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Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm out I am not doing it,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people are like that. I went,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was down I spent the weekend in Florida,

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Speaker 1: played golf a couple of times with a buddy, and

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Speaker 1: and there's got bills right everywhere. People are down there.

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Speaker 2: Well, we were in Indianapolis for the Combine.

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Speaker 3: All week it was sixty Yeah, most of the days

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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, I'll talk around.

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Speaker 1: People are walking around in coats and hot and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what I do? What you gotta be sweating with that

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Speaker 1: That's just it's the world we live in. It's the

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Speaker 1: world we live in. Josh Reed, Steve Tasker here with

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Speaker 1: you today. We're gonna get joined in the second hour

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Speaker 1: by Steve Palozolo. He's from the thirty third, thirty third franchise,

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Speaker 1: what is it called, thirty third team team? There you go.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'll Steve Palosolo and the thirty third Team's

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Speaker 1: gonna come in. He's gonna talk to us about his

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Speaker 1: take on the Combine and all the stuff they've got

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Speaker 1: going on. They've got a bunch of podcasts with a

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Speaker 1: thirty third team that they do and they slice and

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Speaker 1: dice it just like we do here, but they do

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Speaker 1: it league wide instead of us doing it mostly for Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: And we're also we'll take your tweets still off the

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Speaker 1: phone lines for the time being until we get back

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Speaker 1: in the saddle back on the radio. But we also

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Speaker 1: have a question we're gonna ask you today as as well.

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Speaker 1: And for those of you who are well, I was

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Speaker 1: talking to Josh Josh just he moved here twelve years ago.

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Speaker 1: I've been here for almost well forty one over four decades,

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Speaker 1: no forty. This is my fortieth year, so you know

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Speaker 1: about this, right, so people of my vintage will have

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Speaker 1: a better hint about the question we've got for you today.

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Speaker 1: And the question is what's your favorite Bills off season acquisition?

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Speaker 1: What was the player that they signed that it's like

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Speaker 1: that's it. That's the one that I want to know.

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Speaker 1: What what off season acquisition did that for a lot

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Speaker 1: of Bills fans. And you know, Cornelius Bennett doesn't count

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Speaker 1: for this. He was in season nineteen eighty seven. I

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Speaker 1: don't count for this. I was mid season. So you

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Speaker 1: will never forget the buzz when they Teo got signed.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's a huge name.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was unbelievab like that was a marquee

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Speaker 1: Huge name and all of that. He his you know,

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Speaker 1: was like the guy said every place he went was content.

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Speaker 1: People followed him around all the time. And what about

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Speaker 1: when Mario Williams signed. He comes in and I don't

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Speaker 1: know when it was. It was like it was like

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Speaker 1: is like Mario's like I could do this, this is

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Speaker 1: great psych Yeah, just kidding, But he came in and

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Speaker 1: he had a great stretching.

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Speaker 2: They gave him a hundred million, like and back then

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Speaker 2: those numbers weren't.

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Speaker 1: You could send you could send me to Antarctica for

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Speaker 3: Well and no doubt I agree, But like that at

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Speaker 3: that time, that was the biggest free agent contract ever

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Speaker 1: How shocking was it when when Ralph Wilson and you know,

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Speaker 3: And he look he had three years where he had

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Speaker 1: Sets made very well for the Bills. Yeah, there was

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Speaker 1: another one. I was thinking of. What was another off

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the reason this topic came up was

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Speaker 3: the anniversary of Lashawn McCoy. Oh, that's right, that Lashawn.

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Speaker 1: I was doing the CBS thing at the time, right,

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Speaker 1: a while I would do the sideline reporting for Westwood One,

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Speaker 1: I was the sideline guy for those games. So we

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Speaker 1: got you always. You know, people know, people in Western

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Speaker 1: those Gate teams are, you know, getting Monday night games.

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Speaker 1: This is you know, fifteen years ago, not ten fifty. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: between ten and fifteen years ago before Lashawn came to Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: And so I've seen Leshawn McCoy play on Monday Night

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Speaker 1: most underrated back in the league. So it's this time

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Speaker 2: Twelve, because he got here right when I got here.

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Speaker 1: So it's twelve years ago and I'm, you know, minding

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Speaker 1: my own business. And hey, they made it. The bills

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Speaker 1: traded Kiko Alonso. I'm like, on, oh man, the guy

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Speaker 1: you have fifth round or form or something. We got

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Speaker 1: Leshan McCoy. I was like, whoa, whoa, I go wait

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Speaker 2: And it paid off in a big way.

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Speaker 3: Your your background with Lashawn's a little different than mine.

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Speaker 3: So I covered him in high school in Harrisburg, people, right,

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Speaker 2: So I had a really good knowledge of Lashawn.

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Speaker 3: It just so happened that that trade went down, and

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Speaker 3: And I was like, no, I just got a job here,

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you what because not only was

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Speaker 3: before the Eagles fans they loved some of Lashawn McCoy

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Speaker 1: This was the Chip Kelly in Philly.

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Speaker 3: Chip wanted him out because Chip was the offense.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't the players.

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Speaker 1: Chip scheme was one of the It's one of the

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Speaker 1: to feel to him like his college locker room felt like.

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Speaker 1: And when you get it this, when you get in

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Speaker 1: the pros. You're dealing with full grown, alpha men who

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Speaker 1: make more money than you do coach.

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Speaker 2: And have more pole than you do. And yeah, and they,

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Speaker 2: like some of them, have way more.

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Speaker 1: Poles, and the media wants to talk to them more

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Speaker 1: than they want to talk to you. And that's a

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Speaker 1: hard adjustment for some head coach. They don't get that

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Speaker 1: and they don't handle it really well. And Chip didn't

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Speaker 1: You can't. You can't put a lid on your players

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Speaker 1: in the media in the NFL. You just can't. And

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Speaker 2: It turned out that way.

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Speaker 3: This was not a destination for Leshawn McCoy. If he

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Speaker 1: this guy named Bryce Pop from Night in nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was ninety five.

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Speaker 3: It was unbelievable that, you know, I wasn't I wasn't

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, Bryce Pop, Okay, I remember him just

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, and then he's seventeen and a half.

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Speaker 1: Seven year it was a three year stint. It was

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Speaker 3: And I mean, you line up opposite of Bruce Smith,

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Speaker 3: I could have gotten three or four sacks. Right, Let's

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Speaker 3: just have everybody block Bruce and just see if Josh

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Speaker 3: Ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven, nice not coming out here,

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Speaker 1: the choices you have now today on this question. Favorite

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Speaker 1: London Fletcher's another one. A lot of people love London.

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Speaker 3: He's the guy that always is kind of beloved in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his his five years in Buffalo, he was productive.

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Speaker 1: Five ten two hundred and forty pounds. Most ten two

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Speaker 1: This guy was on the field running guys down. He

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Speaker 3: They brought Mario Williams in in twenty twelve. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: You want to talk about looking like an action figure?

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Speaker 2: Oh at that locker room, and I was like, at

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Speaker 3: Mario Williams, he was an adonnis.

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Speaker 1: Mario Williams was striking, just he was striking. He was

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Speaker 1: Like just it was you. I you can't imagine him

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Speaker 1: That's what that's Mario Williams is one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: around the football field. This is Buffalo Bill's stuff going

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Speaker 1: on is reported. Also remember report of the Bills are

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Speaker 1: gonna host. Now you remember all the teams have these

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Speaker 1: guys they bring in for these pre draft visits. It's

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Speaker 1: been reported the first report I've seen of a guy

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Speaker 1: coming in to see Buffalo Bills is a linebacker from Missouri,

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Speaker 1: Josiah Trotter. He's Jeremiah Trotter's son. Jeremiah was the Philly

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Speaker 1: guy who played for the in the middle of their

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Speaker 1: defense for ten years. He was an All Pro twice,

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowler four times. But Josiah is a six to

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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty seven pound line backer. He's projected

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Speaker 1: Day two pick, but he was the Big twelve Defensive

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Speaker 1: Freshman of the Year in twenty twenty four. That was

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Speaker 1: actually his second year because he had he'd missed a

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Speaker 1: year in twenty twenty three with an injury. He went

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Speaker 1: and that was at West Virginia. Then he transferred to

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Speaker 1: Missouri and right away he was their starting linebacker. He's

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Speaker 1: an old school, upside up the stairs linebacker, coming downhill,

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Speaker 1: just loves the run game, that kind of stuff. Now

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Speaker 1: his coverage skills will be tested in the NFL, but

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Speaker 1: he's got a good football IQ and he's one of

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Speaker 1: those guys that you know, he's got some things he

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Speaker 1: needs to prove on the field, but man, you get

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Speaker 1: him in the run game, he shows up big time.

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Speaker 3: You say his old school Yeah, he's twenty yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you know what I mean, he's no I know

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Speaker 3: what you mean, but I mean, holy smokes.

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Speaker 1: He could have played.

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Speaker 6: He could have played in the seventies, you know what

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Speaker 6: I mean, twenty years old, twenty I mean, that takes

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Speaker 6: me back to another linebacker that they took who I

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Speaker 6: think Tremaine Edmunds nineteen and I think he's still only

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Speaker 6: twenty six years old.

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Speaker 1: They drafted Tremaine at nineteen years of age.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, I mean this is yeah, I'm looking

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Speaker 3: up some stuff right now on Trotter and he's he's intriguing.

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Speaker 2: And I mean this goes back to the whole idea.

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Speaker 1: That they if he's on the board at any of

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Speaker 1: their picks from twenty six on down, I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be available to the Bills. He's not gonna get

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Speaker 1: taken ahead of them in the first round. In fact,

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Speaker 1: they may wait until they're, you know, sixtieth pick to

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Speaker 1: get him, but they obviously like him. He's in for

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Speaker 1: a visit. So we'll see, and we'll get reports of

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Speaker 1: these guys coming in and out. I think they're allowed

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Speaker 1: what thirty Yeah, So we'll see. We'll get some more

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Speaker 1: names as they come in. Also on the bills front,

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Speaker 1: the mafia is waiting to see now Brandon Bean has

482
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Speaker 1: got to make some moves to get cap compliant for

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. There's a boatload of money that can

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Speaker 1: be freed up easily through restructures alone without releasing anybody.

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Speaker 1: But there's also some guys and candidates that some bills.

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Speaker 1: There's always some bills fans they go, you can't lose

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Speaker 1: this guy, and there's always people that say, yeah, cut

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Speaker 1: him right. There's some of those guys on the roster

489
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Speaker 1: as well. But next Wednesday is the deadline. You think, well,

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Speaker 1: they got a week to do it. They're gonna do

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Speaker 1: those moves well before the deadline so that they can

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Speaker 1: start getting their ducks in a rows to who they

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Speaker 1: can affor and who's going to be out there, because

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Speaker 1: they're also making calls on the on the free agents.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of a ton of guys that have

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Speaker 1: been released over the last couple of days that you know,

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Speaker 1: Latimor's got released. The cornerback from Washington who was with

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Speaker 1: he was New Orleans, New Orleans and then he went

499
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Speaker 1: to Washington for one year, and that guy's on the street.

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Speaker 1: They got offensive linemen, they are getting cut. You got

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Speaker 1: starters that are on the street now because of the

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Speaker 1: contract got upside down on it and and teams are

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Speaker 1: releasing him. So the bills are kind of in that

504
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Speaker 1: same boat. So they're gonna start getting their financial ducks

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Speaker 1: in a row for the cap to get compliant. Here

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Speaker 1: in the next I would say in the next three days,

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Speaker 1: they we'll start seeing guys that they've restructured at least.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think one of the big pieces

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Speaker 3: of that puzzle was, you know, Joe Brady and Brandon

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Speaker 3: Beid needed a little bit of time to get in,

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Speaker 3: you know, in the weeds with the coaching staff and

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Speaker 3: the new coaches and see, Okay, where do guys fit

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Speaker 3: and do they fit, you know, before you start making

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Speaker 3: you know, to on, Okay, this person needs caught, this

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Speaker 3: person need you know, restructure them. Yet first you have

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Speaker 3: to find out exactly how they fit, where they fit,

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Speaker 3: and how important they are to the roster going forward.

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Speaker 2: Right now you've had that time.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and that's the news. Coaching staff's got to

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Speaker 1: evaluate him. And I haven't seen him on the field

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Speaker 1: only film, So it's they're scouting two different things. The

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Speaker 1: incoming rookies and the guys they got on the roster.

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Speaker 1: They haven't ever met in person. So it'll be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see. We're gonna take a break here and come

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Speaker 1: back and do some news and notes around the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. Steve Tasker joined by Josh Reed this week.

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Speaker 1: This is one Bill's Lives and we will get back

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Speaker 1: after this break. This is Buffalo Bill's not Radio, though,

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Speaker 1: is it? What do you call it. It's the Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: But this One Bill's Drive, One Bill's Live. I've never

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Speaker 1: done this one before because we're not you know, all right,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back after this. Thanks for sticking with us.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker, Josh Reed,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk a little bit about what's going

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Speaker 1: on around the National Football League. Now. Around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the window for franchising tagging playing the franchise tag on

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Speaker 1: players closes tomorrow at four pm. There's today at four

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Speaker 1: to three. That's right, Today's Wednesday? Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Today's Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: They said it tomorrow. Okay, all right, thanks for correcting me.

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Speaker 1: It's today today, all right. So here's the deal. There

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Speaker 1: are three kinds of three kinds of tags. Non exclusive,

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Speaker 1: which means it's and this is the most common we

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Speaker 1: talk about when they say the franchise tag, it's non exclusive.

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Speaker 1: That means the player gets signs the deal, he gets

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Speaker 1: the top ten salaries combined over the last five years

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Speaker 1: or one hundred and twenty percent of his salary last year,

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Speaker 1: whichever is bigger at that position, at the position that

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Speaker 1: he's in now, if another team can now another team

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Speaker 1: can come in and say, hey, we'll we'll negotiate with you.

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Speaker 1: But if that team comes to a deal with him

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Speaker 1: and he says, yeah, I'll take that deal, the team

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Speaker 1: that tagged him can match it. Yeah, but if the

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Speaker 1: team matches it, or if the team doesn't match it,

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Speaker 1: the team that signed him to the deal give up

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Speaker 1: two ones, which nobody's ever going to do it unless

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Speaker 1: it's an exclusive franchise tag. If it's an exclusive franchise tag,

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Speaker 1: there are players like Josh if he was franchise tag,

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Speaker 1: somebody come up with a big offer, of course, and Joha,

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Speaker 1: I don't get too many first straight to two ones, right,

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Speaker 1: So this is non exclusive. That's I'm sorry, that's the

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Speaker 1: exclusive franchise tag. This is for quarterbacks, and it's the

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Speaker 1: top five salaries this year of the guys in his

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Speaker 1: position group. So the quarterback, if you've got a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that's going to get franchised, it'd be you know, it'd

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Speaker 1: be all these guys is making Tou and Dak that

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Speaker 1: are making sixty million bucks. That's the top five this year,

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Speaker 1: or one hundred and twenty percent of the salary he

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Speaker 1: got last year. So usually it's only quarterbacks that'll get

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Speaker 1: that because you can't negotiate with anybody else. So that's

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Speaker 1: why you get now money. You get this year's top

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Speaker 1: five money or one hundred and twenty percent if you

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Speaker 1: got it last year, and but nobody else can talk

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: That's why these elite quarterbacks never become available.

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Speaker 3: That's right, right, I mean, they just they just keep

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Speaker 3: they just keep saying, here's a blank check.

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Speaker 2: You know how many years you want to play here,

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Speaker 2: and now we'll move forward.

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Speaker 1: And then there's the transition tag. That's a top ten salary.

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Speaker 1: You can still negotiate with other teams. But if if

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Speaker 1: the team that you're with doesn't match, they don't get

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Speaker 1: anything for you. So you can go out and if

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Speaker 1: they transition, you can go out and pedal yourself on

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Speaker 1: the street and if you get a deal you want,

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Speaker 1: the other team, can your team that you've got now

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Speaker 1: can match it or not walk or let you walk,

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Speaker 1: and they get nothing for you. So that's you don't

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Speaker 1: see the transition tag very much. So this this year

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Speaker 1: you can George Pickens, the wide receiver from Dallas. He

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Speaker 1: was non exclusive the first one. He's getting twenty seven

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Speaker 1: point two million off of a season that he had

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Speaker 1: ninety three catches, fourteen hundred and twenty nine yards and

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Speaker 1: nine touchdowns. He had his best year ever and he's

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Speaker 1: getting twenty seven to two this year. And there's now

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Speaker 1: while they signed this deal, they can still work on

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Speaker 1: a new deal until I can't remember the date, July

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Speaker 1: something something.

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Speaker 3: And he's worth it. I think George Pickens is an

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Speaker 3: elite wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Now here's a good run. Kyle Pitts non exclusive uh

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Speaker 1: tight end he's got. He's gonna make fifteen point zero

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Speaker 1: four to five million. He had eighty eight catches, nine

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight, didn't have it, didn't happen anything,

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Speaker 1: did have one thousand, didn't have a thousand, and had

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Speaker 1: five touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: And that that was actually a pretty good season for him.

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Speaker 3: Like he has been up and down since his run.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're remember all the hype when he came

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Speaker 3: out in the draft. I mean, everybody loved Kyle Pitt. Well,

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Speaker 3: it's because he's self included. He looks like that we

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Speaker 3: were talking about it looks like you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Adonna's right, you just and I mean he looked

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Speaker 2: the part. And he's been.

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Speaker 1: Good, but not great.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't been a game changing tight end. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: they you.

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Speaker 1: Know, you know who you think about it, uh, and

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Speaker 1: I'll do this. He he had a year a little

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Speaker 1: bit better than Kinkaid's rookie year. Kin Kid had seventy

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Speaker 1: three receptions for six hundred and seventy yards all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: So you know he had that was a pretty good year.

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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, like I said, he he had a pretty

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Speaker 2: good season.

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Speaker 1: But but case and yeah, yeah, I don't know. Breese

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Speaker 1: Hall is going to get the non exclusive tag with

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Speaker 1: the Jets. He's going to make fourteen point two million.

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Speaker 1: He had two hundred and forty three carries this last

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Speaker 1: year for one thousand, six five yards and four touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He had thirty six receptions for three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: yards and one touchdown. So he's gonna make fourteen million.

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Speaker 2: He's got to get out of there, is what you

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Speaker 2: gotta get.

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Speaker 1: James Cook this last year, Ye had three hundred and

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Speaker 1: nine carries for sixteen hundred and twenty one league leading

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Speaker 1: and twelve touchdowns as opposed to Breese Hall's four touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He had thirty three recept Cook had thirty three receptions

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Speaker 1: to Breeze Hall's thirty six for two ninety one to

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Speaker 1: three fifty. He had two tds receiving. Breese Hall had won.

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Speaker 1: So James Cook crushed it and he signed a four year,

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Speaker 1: forty six million dollars deal last year averages eleven point

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Speaker 1: five a year. Eleven point five for James Cook and

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Speaker 1: you're paying fourteen two two for Breeze.

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Speaker 2: Looks say, a pretty good deal.

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Speaker 1: I spent the entire I keep saying this because I

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Speaker 1: gotta come clean. I spent the entire offseason saying, don't

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Speaker 1: pay James Cook.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting at the table with you.

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Speaker 1: But then as I I went back and I did

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Speaker 1: come back, we may have been correct. I went back

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Speaker 1: where I turned it around one hundred and eighty before the

652
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Speaker 1: contract was signed. I went one hundred and eighty degree

653
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Speaker 1: and I went back and watched games. I was like, man,

654
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Speaker 1: he is pretty good. And then they got him for

655
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: eleven point five over four years, eight twenty eight million

656
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: of it. Almost twenty nine million was guaranteed at signing

657
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: over four years. He got fifteen was guaranteed at signing.

658
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: Twenty eight total guaranteed over four years.

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Speaker 2: That's still I mean.

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Speaker 1: And think about this. So Kenneth Walker, the super Bowl

661
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Speaker 1: MVP running back, Right, Yep, he's not going to be

662
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: franchised by the Seahawks. He's going to be a free agent.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get the walk.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP. Thanks for stopping by Kenneth Walker.

665
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Speaker 3: And that's a difference in philosophy when it comes to

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Speaker 3: the running back position, right, because I mean, the Bills

667
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: obviously valued James Cook, needed to make sure that they

668
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Speaker 3: brought him back. Thought he was a big part of

669
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Speaker 3: their offense. The Seahawks win the Super Bowl and they

670
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: let the MVP walk, and he's a huge part of

671
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Speaker 3: their offense. So I mean, there, there you have it. Now,

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Speaker 3: look here's the other here's the other side of this.

673
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Speaker 3: Seahawks just won the Super Bowl with a first year

674
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Speaker 3: head coach. So guess what, Yeah, he got a little

675
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Speaker 3: more leeway. He got he's.

676
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Speaker 2: Got a chance to go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know what if we take a step back,

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Speaker 3: which is likely, I mean, because there's you can't go

679
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: forward from where you are, right, you know, win a

680
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: second Super Bowl?

681
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Speaker 2: Okay, great, probably unlikely. He's high.

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Speaker 1: The running back isn't what they're looking at. It is

683
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: that defense. But yes, you're right, you yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: what we can be a little bold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, take a step back so that you take three

686
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Speaker 3: steps forward. Maybe the following year. Breecee Hall days back

687
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Speaker 3: to bris I like that.

688
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: I like getting I like him.

689
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Speaker 1: I do too, and he's really fast and all that.

690
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: But he's gonna get fourteen point twenty nine. Now, both

691
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: sides are reported to be very very interested in getting

692
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Speaker 1: a long term deal done. YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. Uh,

693
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Speaker 1: but you look at the deal James Cook signed four years,

694
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: forty six million, eleven and a half per year average,

695
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Speaker 1: and he led the NFL in rushing in his first

696
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Speaker 1: year in that deal. Bless his blessed Brandon Bean's heart

697
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: right forgetting that deal signed. That's that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you wonder what Hall would look like in

699
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Speaker 3: an offense like the Bills with that type of offensive

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Speaker 3: line and Josh Allen is the quarterback. I mean my

701
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Speaker 3: guess is his numbers would look pretty similar.

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Speaker 2: To James James Cook. Yeah right, I mean right, he's

703
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Speaker 2: just he's playing for the Jets.

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Speaker 1: That's that's when you look at your roster and you

705
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: go work and we get better. Well, James Cook and

706
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Speaker 1: you got Breese Holl doing that He's like, Wow, we're

707
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: doing pretty good right there at the running back spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that worked out really really good.

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Speaker 1: Also, last thing, the Cleveland Browns have taken a step closer.

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Speaker 1: They're breaking They're going to break ground on their new stadium.

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Speaker 1: It looks like on a schedule for April thirtieth, two

712
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: billion Huntington Bank Stadium. It's gonna cost two billion. It's

713
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Speaker 1: gonna be in northeast Ohio, outside the city. For those

714
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Speaker 1: of you who have been down to Cleveland Stadium and

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Speaker 1: driven through Cleveland, I know there's a ton of us

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Speaker 1: here in Western New York who have done that.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: That stadium was right on the water. It was at

719
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Speaker 1: the spot of the old stadium, which was an atrocity. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This this, the Cleveland Brown Stadium is today, was nice,

721
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Speaker 1: very nice modern stadium built in ninety five or between

722
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Speaker 1: ninety five and not that old. It's not that old.

723
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Speaker 1: But they're upgrading and moving outside the city proper of Cleveland,

724
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Speaker 1: out into some space and they're gonna they're gonna make

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Speaker 1: a huge area. You know that there's a destination outside

726
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Speaker 1: of the city. So and they they came one step

727
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Speaker 1: closer to it. They're gonna break ground late April and

728
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Speaker 1: it'll probably be done probably in what twenty nine.

729
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Speaker 2: And I think they're going to have a roof on it.

730
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Speaker 1: Yes, it's supposed to be. It's going to be roofed,

731
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Speaker 1: and it's going to be you know, have be glass

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Speaker 1: and on the whole thing. It's going to be pretty spectacular.

733
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Speaker 3: Yes, it looks like their hotels, the whole thing host

734
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Speaker 3: the Final four.

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Speaker 2: It looks like yeah. Stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well that's news. That's news and notes around the NFL.

737
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: That's Cleveland. Brown's moving forward with a new stadium outside

738
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Speaker 1: the city. Unbelievable. How fat and how old I feel?

739
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Speaker 1: The Bills I think played in the very first regular

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00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: season or maybe preseason. It was a regular season game,

741
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Speaker 1: very first regular season game against the Dolphins when Joe

742
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: Robbie Stadium opened up. And I played in the very

743
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: first preseason NFL event in Atlanta's stadium, the one they

744
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: tore down to build the new.

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00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: Stadium, Mercedes Benz Mercede beautiful.

746
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Speaker 1: They tore it down, it's gone. I played the opening

747
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: game of that stadium.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, what stadium one of the

749
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Speaker 3: newer ones that you haven't been to that you'd like

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Speaker 3: to go.

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Speaker 2: See I haven't seen SOFII is nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard SOFI is very I've been in never

753
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: played in at and T Jerry World. I never played,

754
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: but I did a bunch of games from the sidelines

755
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: down there that if you've been there, it's the one

756
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: with the big TV goes from the twenty yard line

757
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: to the other twenty yard line and you can see

758
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: the game very well, the broadcast of the game, basically

759
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: from the screen. If that huge screen wasn't in that building,

760
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: you couldn't wrap your mind around how big it is.

761
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: That's the TV dropping down in gives it some scale.

762
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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I can do because I'm watching TV

763
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: like in a room. It's fine because it's so big.

764
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Speaker 1: The screen is so big. It scales everything down so

765
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Speaker 1: your mind can be comfortable in the space. If that TV.

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Speaker 1: I thought about this a lot. If that TV wasn't

767
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: in there, people would get Vertigo in that place.

768
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a beautiful stadium.

769
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Speaker 1: It's spectacularly beautiful, but it istic gigantic doesn't do it justice.

770
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Speaker 3: My favorite thing about it was Jerry hooked us up

771
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: for Thanksgiving because when the Bills played the Cowboys down

772
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 3: there on Thanksgiving, a few years back.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what. The Thanksgiving spread second only

774
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Speaker 2: to my wife's.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because this thing's on and she might be might be,

776
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 5: she might be tuning in, right, It was not just

777
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 5: you and me, right, So I'm gonna tell you what, though, Man,

778
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 5: the Thanksgiving spread was incredible.

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Speaker 3: Have you checked out Vegas's I have not that one.

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00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: I'm looking at next year if the Bills play there.

781
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: I got a feeling there that place could be filled

782
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Speaker 3: with fans.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing we I did the games on radio

784
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty because of COVID and Eric couldn't travel,

785
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: Wood couldn't travel, And we did every game here from

786
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: this stadium on TV. If it was away game, we

787
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: just watched monitors, right, so that you know the whole

788
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: You know, it was all crazy. But that year the

789
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: team went to Denver, Seattle, Vegas, An, Arizona, somebody all

790
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: it was all it was. I couldn't wait go on

791
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: all those road trips and I didn't travel. But those

792
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: are some of my favorite NFL cities. I've never I've

793
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Speaker 1: never even been to Las Vegas.

794
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: Never been, and never just to hang out and never win.

795
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: Never. I never even connected on a flight through there

796
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Speaker 1: and all the millions of miles that I've traveled, never

797
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: so Vegas. Seattle is a very underrated NFL TEP. It's

798
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Speaker 1: a fantastic und It's my favorite road trip.

799
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Speaker 3: Yes, and especially because it only comes up you know,

800
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Speaker 3: you know, twelve seasons of covering the Bills, I've only

801
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 3: been there twice.

802
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Speaker 1: I started doing games with CBS and for twenty years

803
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: I did it, and every I don't know, I've probably

804
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: got a half a dozen or eight games over my course.

805
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: I look forward to every single one. And we went

806
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Speaker 1: to Seattle. It's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

808
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: It's a fantastic city to go visit.

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00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 3: For a couple of week, we went to a cracking

810
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: game because the Cracking were at home.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it was great. We went over

812
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: the cracking game. Yeah. It's just a fun city. The

813
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: people are super nice.

814
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: The city's nice, it's got it's got a lot of

815
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: fun things to go do.

816
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: It's a walking city too, you can walk around on

817
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: and stuff everything. We're gonna take a break, Josh Reed,

818
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: Steve Task. We're gonna have at the top of the hour.

819
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Speaker 1: Steve Polozolo from the thirty third team he's gonna come in. Uh.

820
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Speaker 1: He's also co host to the check the Mic podcast.

821
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have him on talk about the the Combine

822
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: and everything else in the off season franchise tags the

823
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: Whole Kit and Kaboodle, Steve Task or Josh Reed. This

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Speaker 1: is One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. We'll be

825
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Speaker 1: back after this. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. One

826
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Speaker 1: of the things that popped up on our on our

827
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Speaker 1: timeline on our social media account, Sixer asked, I'm not

828
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Speaker 1: sure how the restruction of contract actually works hypothetically, because

829
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Speaker 1: we know Josh is gonna be on the team full

830
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Speaker 1: time next year, Can Tarry Terry Pegoula pay him his

831
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Speaker 1: entire fifty five million dollars salary up front and clear

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Speaker 1: him completely off the books. Not completely, no, but yes,

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00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: that's exactly how it works. You give him, you know,

834
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Speaker 1: like Dion Dawkins or Josh Allen, or you pick your

835
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: starter who's got a big contract, and you can just

836
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Speaker 1: turn all of his salary into as signing bonus. Because

837
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Speaker 1: you know you're not gonna cut Josh and nothing's gonna happen.

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00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna pay him the money anyway. Just give it

839
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Speaker 1: to him now and then with the veteran minimum as

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Speaker 1: a salary, like give him a million bucks as a

841
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: salary instead of fifty five million as a salary. Give

842
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: him fifty four million as a bonus, and then the

843
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: fifty four million goes out over the course of the contract,

844
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Speaker 1: and you can sign him to a twenty five year

845
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: contract and it's two million bucks on the cap every year.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you're sitting at home, you may be thinking, well,

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00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: why wouldn't any player want to do that? They would, well, yes, yes,

848
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: but there is a tax implication that comes with that.

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Speaker 3: And I've talked to a couple former players because I

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Speaker 3: kind of thought that as well, like why wouldn't you

851
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: always want that?

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00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 4: Right?

853
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: Well, the difference is, if you've ever had a bonus

854
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 3: throwing your way, you realize that it gets taxed a

855
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: little bit differently than what a normal paycheck would. So

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00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: that is the downside upside cash and pocket walking out

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Speaker 3: the door.

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Speaker 1: They can also they can also like this is just

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Speaker 1: this year's salary. Josh also has a salary of sixty

860
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: five million next year or whatever it is. I'm just

861
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: and you can say, okay, we'll guarantee you a bigger

862
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: percentage of that next year, We'll just guarantee you more

863
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: money down the line that you're already on under contract

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Speaker 1: for instead of having you If Josh, you got a

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million dollar contract and one hundred

866
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: million of it is already guaranteed, let's say, well, we'll

867
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: guarantee another fifty million and we'll give you the bone.

868
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: We'll do this thing this year, and you just keep

869
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: doing that. So he says, yeah, okay, sooner or later,

870
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it. I'm in. So that's how they

871
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: do that. They don't have to give them the money.

872
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: They can just say we're gonna give it to you.

873
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: We promise we'll give it to you at a later date,

874
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: whether you'rer whether you're alive or dead, let alone playing

875
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: for us or not. So they can get around that

876
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: any way they want. But yes, that's true. The taxation,

877
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: it's big difference. It's real.

878
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I mean there's only a few guys

879
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: that live on that Josh Allen island right where teams

880
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: are like, look, we'll guarantee you anything and everything.

881
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: Right, it's a small island.

882
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: Here's what we want to do, and in return, you

883
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: get the money now and down the road you get

884
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: an extra ten on top of the whole kit and

885
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: kaboodle guaranteed. And he's like, all right, fine, you know,

886
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: I'll sign my name once more. That's yeah. So yes,

887
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: that's they Josh could fix all the cap problems just

888
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: about every year.

889
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. And here's the thing.

890
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 3: The other upside of it is Josh knows that that's

891
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: money that's going to be used then to go help

892
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: add to the roster.

893
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: Josh.

894
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: Now, it's money to help them become captain Josh.

895
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh. Cap hits fifty six point three eight eight

896
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: this year. If they cut Josh, you want to know

897
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: the dead cap, Oh, it's probably eighty one hundred and

898
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: seventy three, good lord, one hundred and seventy three. He

899
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: had like a twelve million dollars signing bonus, which is

900
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: pro rated, so that's you know, pro rated, which means

901
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: he got a ton of it upfront, and every year

902
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: of the contract he gets twelve million lopped onto him.

903
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: So if it's a six year deal, it was one

904
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty million dollar pro rated.

905
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: This has me wondering how he's gonna afford this child.

906
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: Let me just get right. Where's his next How's he

907
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: going to afford diapers? Let's just look at Josh's contract

908
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: real quick before we go to break again. Here, Sam

909
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: and Steve pallas Ola will come up at the top

910
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: of the hour. Okay, So this last year Josh's base salary,

911
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: so you can see the riding on the wall here.

912
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: His base salary last year was one point two million,

913
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: one point two million, His restructure was eleven million, His

914
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: cap hit was thirty six million, so they they've been

915
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: doing this for a minute. His dead cap last year

916
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: was two hundred and nine million. This year's one hundred

917
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: and seventy three million. Next year it'll be eighty seven million.

918
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: So the cap hit he's his signing pro ration is

919
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 1: is twelve million, twelve point three for the next three years,

920
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: and then in twenty nine it goes to eleven point three.

921
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: So in twenty thirty he's scheduled to make a twenty

922
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: seven million dollar base salary. So yeah, his the contract

923
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: terms is a sixty year, three hundred and thirty three

924
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: million dollar deal. On at face value, his average salary

925
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: is fifty five million. Signing bonus was fifty six million

926
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: guaranteed one hundred and forty seven at signing, So sooner

927
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: or later he's going to get one hundred and forty

928
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: seven million bucks.

929
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: Well, it's not a lot different than what the Chiefs

930
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 3: do every year with Patrick, That's.

931
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: Right, that's why they did.

932
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 2: They do the same thing with Patrick mahomess ever.

933
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: Give him and I get it too. It's hard to

934
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: build a roster when you got to jump through these

935
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: financial hoops. But if you've got the cash, you can

936
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: do it. But having cash like that laying around, I

937
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: know the league gives every team a check for like,

938
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, half a billion dollars every six months, or

939
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: spend it. Why spend it? White, don't spend it all

940
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: in one place. But that's where they're at. So, yeah,

941
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: Josh Dion and all these guys, they can all help

942
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: because they've all got big mass, you know, cap hits

943
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: so and so. In the next three or four or

944
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: five days, we're gonna see all this stuff take place,

945
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: and it'll happen. We're gonna take another break. We're gonna

946
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: have thirty third teams. Steve Palosoli. He's also co host

947
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: with Sam Monso to Check the Mic podcast. Steve Palosola

948
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: coming up after the break, Josh Reed Steve Tasker on

949
00:47:38,000 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. This the One

950
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Calida Health. Welcome back in One

951
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: of Bill's Life Steve task along with Josh Reid filling

952
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: in for Brownie for the week. It's good to have

953
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: him here. We're also joined as well now by Steve

954
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: Palozzolo thirty third Teams. He's with a thirty third team

955
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: and also with Check the Mic podcast. Steve Palosolo who

956
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: for years and years was with Pro Football Focus and

957
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: he was down the combine. Uh, got a lot going on,

958
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: but Steve, thanks for joining us. What were your thoughts

959
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 1: about the combine? First of all, got any general generalizations

960
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: for us?

961
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, A lot of steak last week. That was good. Yeah, yeah,

962
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 4: good steakhouses. Enjoyed that. I love the entire week. It

963
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 4: is the entire NFL within two blocks of each other,

964
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 4: and there's always a lot going on. As far as

965
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: that's off the field though, like as far as the

966
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 4: workouts go, fascinating run. I think fewer players are working

967
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 4: out than ever. You're not seeing agility drills, which have

968
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: been some of the best drills when it comes to

969
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 4: projecting players and modeling players at the next level. So

970
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 4: that's a little unfortunate that we're not seeing that. And

971
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: I know the NFL network was pushing, Hey, fastest d

972
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 4: line group and fastest linebackers and fastest safeties. But it's yeah,

973
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 4: because anybody who ran over four to five didn't even run,

974
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: so there's a little bit of selection bias in there.

975
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 4: So it felt athletic, But a lot of players not

976
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 4: running will see if they end up running at their

977
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: pro day or if they just sit and don't work

978
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 4: out this year.

979
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: Now, with all that said, Steve, was there a player

980
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: though that kind of did jump off to you where

981
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 3: you went, Wow, what a physical fenom this guy is.

982
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 4: Well, I'll go Bill specific. I thought free safety Dylan

983
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 4: Thieneman from Oregon. You know, given the need that the

984
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 4: Bills have had trying to attack the safety position or

985
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 4: a versatile safety position over the last couple of years,

986
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 4: his athleticism shows up on film at Oregon, showed up

987
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 4: on film at Perdue, and then shows up at the combine.

988
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 4: I mean he's the type of guy when the balls

989
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: in the air, he closes quickly, great acceleration, great second gear,

990
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 4: as far as range goes at the safety position. Now

991
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: he may have tested too well to the point where

992
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 4: people are already talking about him, you know, late teens

993
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 4: to the Minnesota Vikings. I just thought, for a player

994
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 4: who's seen as a late first early second round pick,

995
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 4: it just confirmed to me, Hey, if he was there

996
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 4: for Buffalo, I think he's very much in the mix

997
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 4: in the back end of the first round.

998
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: We always talk about, particularly in the first round and

999
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: the more predictable picks at the top of the round,

1000
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: and the first round kind of centers around for most

1001
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: of us money spots like the wide receiver, the offensive tackle,

1002
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: the edge rusher, quarterbacks obviously, but this is all also

1003
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 1: a draft where guys like safeties like Feinnaman, they can

1004
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: you can get a difference making player at a spot

1005
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: that's not notoriously a fantastic you know, big marquee.

1006
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 4: Like a guard.

1007
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: You could get maybe a Hall of Fame guard mid

1008
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: to late first round, because it's a guard, right or

1009
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: a safety. It's not a corner, it's not a lockdown corner,

1010
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: but a safety makes a difference. That's kind of where

1011
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: the Bills sit at that twenty six slot where you

1012
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: can get maybe a great player at a non quote

1013
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: unquote money spot. Is that how you see it?

1014
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 4: I do. I think it's one of the stories of

1015
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 4: the draft. It's funny because when you're going through, even

1016
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 4: in the top ten, when you're trying to fill out

1017
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 4: number two for the Jets or number three for the Cardinals,

1018
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 4: there's not like, remember that there was the year where

1019
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 4: number seven off the board is Pine Soool and it's

1020
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 4: Pine Sool and Jamar Chase and Micah Parsons is in

1021
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 4: that draft, and you're like, you're getting a blue chip

1022
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: player at a premium position. And it's not just premium

1023
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 4: because we like those positions. It's where the NFL pays.

1024
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 4: And when you hit on one of those players, it is

1025
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 4: a massive advantage. When those guys are making twenty plus

1026
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 4: million a year or whatever it may be twenty five million,

1027
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 4: thirty million, now forty million, and in the top ten,

1028
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 4: you don't have any of those clean players at those positions.

1029
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 4: But you're like, hey, what about Caleb Downs at safety?

1030
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 4: What about Sunny Styles at linebacker? Can you take him?

1031
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 4: Can you take Jeremiah Love at running back? And then

1032
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 4: they become one of the highest paid players at their position.

1033
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 4: On their rookie contract, so you're making sure you're weighing

1034
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 4: those financial decisions. But I do think there's a sweet

1035
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 4: spot in the middle of the first round or the

1036
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 4: back end of the top ten, even where you're like,

1037
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 4: there's a lot of good football players here, and I

1038
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: do think that sprinkles into the late first and that

1039
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 4: you know, picks fifteen to seventy five, say, there are

1040
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 4: some really good football players. Bills obviously fit right in

1041
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 4: that mix, and you're okay, Like the positional positional value

1042
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 4: thing matters much less as you get down the bottom

1043
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 4: end of the first If you can get a starting guard,

1044
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 4: if you can get a starting safety or a linebacker,

1045
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 4: you are more than happy to do that if you're Buffalo.

1046
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 4: In the back end of the first.

1047
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 3: The offensive line, the guard spots come up a couple

1048
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 3: of times already here in this conversation.

1049
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: Look, the Bills are.

1050
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 3: Sitting in a spot where they've got two starting offensive

1051
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 3: linemen that are gonna be free agents, Connor McGovern David

1052
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 3: Edwards the.

1053
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: Center, the guard.

1054
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 3: What's this offensive line group look like on the interior

1055
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 3: if they do have to replace one or both of

1056
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: those guys.

1057
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean preferably just they have to replace one.

1058
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 4: You guys know a little bit better than me as

1059
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 4: far as how close they are, how likely that is

1060
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 4: you'd rather not have to go with you replace two

1061
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 4: fifths of your offensive line. Buffalo's offensive line continuity over

1062
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 4: the last few years really an underrated part of their success.

1063
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 4: They have not had to deal with this over the

1064
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 4: last couple of years, other than you know, filling a

1065
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 4: Cyrus Torrents in the second round. They haven't had to

1066
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 4: do it that often. So if they could lock up

1067
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 4: one of those guys, I think that's preferred. I still

1068
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 4: think you want to go the free agent route. I

1069
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 4: mentioned Isaac Sayamalu as a really good stop gap. He's

1070
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 4: thirty three years old, battled injuries, but just a good,

1071
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 4: dependable player, probably on the cheap. And so when you're

1072
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 4: talking about do you you can't fill literally every spot

1073
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 4: with a four year player that's you know, has upside.

1074
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 4: So Sayamalu feels like a really good player at guard.

1075
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 4: There are good starting guards out there, Dylan Parham from

1076
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 4: the Raiders, players who are out there who are going

1077
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 4: to be a little bit cheaper I think than Edwards.

1078
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 4: Edwards being a little bit younger, coming off of two

1079
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 4: really good seasons. I think some teams really might, you know,

1080
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 4: throw some money at him if he's available. So I

1081
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 4: think there are a second wave of guards that are available,

1082
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 4: and same thing with center. You know, guys like Tyler

1083
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 4: Biattish just getting released from the Commanders who could be

1084
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 4: out there and not break the bank. But they're good,

1085
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 4: dependable players and you just don't want to have massive

1086
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 4: holes on the offensive line. So I think free agency

1087
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 4: there are some options. And then from a draft perspective,

1088
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 4: we'll see, I mean, Venga Yuana from Penn State, you know,

1089
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 4: he might go top fifteen to twenty. Emmanuel Pregnant from

1090
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 4: Oregon could be there and available in the back end

1091
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 4: of the first I do I do think there are

1092
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 4: plug and play yards available at the back end, but

1093
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 4: we'll see, without the tackles, without the premium positions, you

1094
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 4: might see teams in the top fifteen having the same

1095
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 4: conversation say let me just get our guard and we'll

1096
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 4: be happy about that.

1097
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the Bills are looking at at Connor McGovern,

1098
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: who they got as a young player as a guard

1099
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: and he moved down to center after one year when

1100
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: they released miss Morris and I've kind of contended that

1101
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: a center in a lot in some ways is a

1102
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: little more important to the mechanics of your offense than

1103
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: a guard is, because the center's got a voice. I mean,

1104
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: he's caught making blind calls, he's got a relationship with

1105
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: the you know, with your franchise quarterback. You know, he's

1106
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: usually the guy holding the clicker in the in the

1107
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: in the film room. The whole thing, right, is it

1108
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: hard to replace that kind of guy in an offense

1109
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: rather than a guard who, like you say, plug and play.

1110
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: And the propensity for those guys to be you know,

1111
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: they're hanging around, they're available, whether they're good or not.

1112
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: Maybe the environment has as much to say about that

1113
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: as the guy's ability. What your thoughts about keeping mcconnor

1114
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: McGovern as a center in front of a franchise quarterback

1115
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: and David Edwards as a guard. Is there one that

1116
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: you like better than the not those guys personally, but

1117
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: as a general rule, the center with the voice or

1118
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: the guard who has to get out and get to

1119
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: the edge.

1120
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 4: I think there's definitely something to the known commodity of

1121
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 4: the center and that relationship. Everything that you're talking about

1122
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 4: and then in this particular instance, I just think Edwards

1123
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,959
Speaker 4: is going to be more coveted on the market given

1124
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 4: his age and the fact that you know he's peaking

1125
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 4: his last couple of years. So I would rather go in, Hey,

1126
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 4: resign McGovern And okay, now we've got one spot to

1127
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 4: fill right when you talking about the offensive line on

1128
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 4: our show, check the mic. We use the phrase creep

1129
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 4: back toward average all the time. That's how we encourage

1130
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 4: teams with bad offensive lines just don't have question marks

1131
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 4: as much as possible, you feel one of those question marks,

1132
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 4: I'm all in on the center because it is one

1133
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 4: of those things that then teams have to try to

1134
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 4: glean that from meetings, from thirty visits. If you're talking about, hey,

1135
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 4: Jake Slaughter from Florida, we have no idea how he's

1136
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 4: going to operate at the line of scrimmage, but you

1137
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 4: can see him physically, but it's really difficult to project that.

1138
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 4: So I like the known commodity of McGovern. And then okay,

1139
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 4: between free agency and the draft, fill one spot at

1140
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 4: left guard. I think that's a much better way to go.

1141
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: If you're buffalo, the problem is the bills you're right.

1142
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: The continuity of their offensive line room has been highly underrated.

1143
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: They also have Cedric van pran Grainger who played for

1144
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: four years at Georgia, practiced two national champions. You know,

1145
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: the whole thing. The guy's got a resume that's taller

1146
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: than me, and he you know, he's standing there waiting

1147
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: for his chance. How we don't know what they think

1148
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: about him. We haven't seen him play. Yeah, that may

1149
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: be the extra degree of difficulty in deciphering which position

1150
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: that the Bills feel is the most crucial.

1151
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, absolutely, we don't know what the internal evaluations are.

1152
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 4: I like to from the outside though, I like to

1153
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 4: not have questions, right right. I think when the Bills

1154
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 4: going into the draft last year with one potential starting spot,

1155
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 4: which was corner, and then they happen to fill it

1156
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 4: with Maxwell Harriston, I think that's the way to go. Like,

1157
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 4: you want to be able to Someone used the phrase

1158
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 4: last week in Indie to me, you'd love to have

1159
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 4: a team that could play a game in mid March

1160
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 4: or late March. Right, You'd love to have your your

1161
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 4: starting group set and then you go into the draft

1162
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 4: without major needs, without having to force a pick. So

1163
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 4: that's still the ideal for me. If that is an

1164
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 4: internal replacement, that's fine, but that's all. I'm just trying

1165
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 4: to minimize risk and uncertainty as much as possible next week,

1166
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 4: in particular when it comes to free agency.

1167
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 3: I like the point about Cedric Vanparan Granger because I

1168
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 3: guess we're going to find out in the draft how

1169
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,479
Speaker 3: much they like him, because if you draft a guy

1170
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 3: in that position, that's putting a roadblock in front of

1171
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 3: this young guy. Meanwhile, they go out and sign a

1172
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 3: veteran to a little bit, you know, smaller deal, stop

1173
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: gap kind of thing. Let the younger guy kind of

1174
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 3: get get some PEPs under his belt, and then that

1175
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: kind of that kind of makes sense. You do a podcast, Steve,

1176
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 3: and I noticed I came along said that you were

1177
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 3: fixing the AFC East and you're working on the NFC East.

1178
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 3: So did you fix the Bills because we've been we've

1179
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 3: been sitting around with the fan base trying to fix

1180
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: him now since that Denver game.

1181
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: Where did you Land?

1182
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 4: It's one of our favorite things we do every year.

1183
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 4: We go team by team. We used to call it

1184
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 4: fixing every team in five minutes, and it was because

1185
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 4: we were just going to like fly through some moves,

1186
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 4: but where long winded. So we do about fifteen to

1187
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 4: twenty minutes per team talk, free agents, talk draft. We

1188
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 4: talked a lot about X receiver. I know that's a

1189
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 4: thing to talk about, and I'm warming to the idea

1190
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 4: of like a one to two year Mike Evans type

1191
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 4: of deal. I know that's a splashy type of move

1192
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 4: that every fan base really loves, but I think that

1193
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 4: could work here given the look. I don't think they've

1194
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 4: neglected Josh Allen by not giving him playmakers. Like some

1195
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 4: of the narrative is, you know, he's dragging these you know,

1196
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 4: postal workers to thirty points a game. I mean, they've

1197
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 4: got maybe the best group of interior receivers or yah

1198
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 4: accentric receivers in the NFL. When you talk Khalil Shakir,

1199
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 4: when you talk what Dalton Kincaid did last year and

1200
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 4: is capable of, you're talking what James Cook can do

1201
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 4: out of the backfield, what Ty Johnson's been able to

1202
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 4: do out of the backfield. They've got great pass catchers,

1203
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 4: they just don't have the one on one outside receiver

1204
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 4: since Stefon Diggs. We know that and it's a challenge

1205
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 4: to find that guy in today's NFL. So whether it

1206
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 4: is late first round Denzel Boston type from Washington or

1207
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 4: a one to two year Hey, let's go try to

1208
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 4: win a super Bowl with Mike Evans, who can still play,

1209
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 4: who uses his body well, separates well for his size,

1210
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 4: moves well for his size. Even at this point in

1211
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 4: his career. The question is going to be, he gets

1212
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 4: banged up, he has some injury issues, does he really

1213
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 4: want to leave Tampa. I'm reading it like he does

1214
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 4: more now than he did two three years ago when

1215
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 4: he resigned with the Bucks. I think Evans would be

1216
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 4: a great fit. I know a lot of fan bases

1217
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 4: would love to have Mike Evans, but I think it

1218
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 4: actually makes sense within this offense and he would fill

1219
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 4: the need that the Bills have on the outside.

1220
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: What are some and I know this has ever changing

1221
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: because he like Marshaun Lattimore got released today from Washington,

1222
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: and there's some you know, some money spots and these

1223
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: guys the free agent list is changing all the time

1224
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: because salary cap and you know, cap compliance and all

1225
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: that is a part of it. What are some of

1226
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: your top names guys you think and a guy like

1227
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: Mike Evans who still might have some gas in the tank,

1228
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: or maybe a young player who got released for whatever

1229
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: reason because the team just lost patience, because he had

1230
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: some nagging injuries.

1231
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 4: Whatever.

1232
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: What are your top names out there that are you

1233
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: think are going to explode into any team they sign with.

1234
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 4: Either as free agents or potential cut candidates.

1235
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: Either one is they're cut candidates. I want to know

1236
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: who's cutting them and what they're gonna do with their

1237
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: new team. I mean, if there's a guy out there

1238
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: you think is a cut candidate that's going to be

1239
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: sought after, who is it.

1240
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 4: From a I mean, I like the way over the

1241
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 4: Cap they have a predictive cut candidate list, and there

1242
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 4: are some fascinating names on there, Guys like Calvin Ridley.

1243
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 4: You know, if he then if he's out in Tennessee. Look,

1244
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 4: anybody who's getting cut is going to come with question marks.

1245
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 4: But then I think if you're Buffalo, you're kind of

1246
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 4: chasing that upside, right And if Ridley, who's always as

1247
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 4: he's always better as part of a committee, He's never

1248
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 4: been good as the number one. But Buffalo, they don't

1249
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 4: need one hundred and fifty target receiver. It's just an

1250
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 4: outside receiver who in certain games is going to go

1251
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 4: eight for one fifty once in a while, not every week,

1252
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 4: but when all the attention is in the middle of

1253
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 4: the field. Because you know, Buffalo's built to beat teams

1254
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 4: like Kansas City, they might not be built to beat

1255
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 4: a team like Denver, who has great corners on the outside.

1256
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 4: I like a guy like Calvin Ridley, who I don't

1257
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 4: want in Tennessee. If I'm the Titans, I got to

1258
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 4: get younger, but Ridley could be a good guy on

1259
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 4: the outside if he comes available. I look at the

1260
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 4: second wave of edge rushers. It's less sexy because I'd

1261
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 4: love to have an impact, But I'd love to have

1262
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: a Dafeowa if I'm the Bills opposite Greg Russeau. But

1263
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 4: I think there's a really good group of the aj

1264
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 4: Epanessa types. As he hits free agency, you replace with

1265
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 4: Arnold Debakati, are In Key, Joseph Assai. Those are guys

1266
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 4: that look that Those are the types of players you

1267
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 4: look back and say, hey, we won a Super Bowl

1268
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 4: this year. Great contribution from Ard and Key, or from

1269
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 4: Joseph Assai and that two slash three edge rush role.

1270
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 4: So I think those are the types of free agents

1271
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 4: that will be available if there's a splashy move. Maybe

1272
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 4: it's Evans, but I really like the second wave of

1273
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 4: free agency in this group, Steve.

1274
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 3: When we were in Indianapolis the NFL, the league announced

1275
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 3: the salary cap where it would be, it was I

1276
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: think just a shade over three hundred and one million dollars.

1277
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 3: That's up twenty two million from last season.

1278
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,479
Speaker 2: I'm wondering as you went around and kind of talked

1279
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 2: to different you.

1280
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 3: Know, movers and shakers in the league and front offices

1281
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 3: around the NFL, what their thought was on that number.

1282
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 4: So it's I think we're going to see some crazy

1283
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 4: numbers next week. It happens every year in free agency

1284
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 4: when this player that is like a fringe starter or

1285
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 4: you know, average starter, and I use that that's not

1286
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 4: a knock, that's an endearing term. These are great football

1287
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 4: players in the NFL, but you know, relative to their peers,

1288
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 4: and they're going to be making a ton of money.

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Speaker 4: I mean, even last year, Will Fryes makes eighteen million

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Speaker 4: a year at guard. He'd only had one full season

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Speaker 4: essentially as a starter, former seventh round pick, so the

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Speaker 4: money has to go somewhere. The other thing to just

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Speaker 4: keep an eye on, because you know NFL people, it's

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01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 4: just a business thing. It's so relational. You want to

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01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 4: work with people that you've worked with before. That's all business,

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Speaker 4: but especially in the NFL, coaches love players that they've

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Speaker 4: coached previously. With ten coaching changes this year, I think

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Speaker 4: you could see an incredible amount of movement where a

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Speaker 4: new coach comes in doesn't see the fit for a player,

1300
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 4: but his old coach is somewhere else he sees the

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01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 4: fit for a player. We might see some wild movement

1302
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 4: when it comes to trades, unexpected releases. So free agent

1303
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 4: lists are very fluid because all the other movement that

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01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 4: comes with a third of the league almost making coaching changes.

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Speaker 4: So that's where I think a lot of the movement

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01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 4: could be crazy. And then that money in the salary

1307
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 4: cap has to go somewhere, so there'll be some quote

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01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 4: overpays coming up here next week.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know you were at the Combine last week

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01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: and we were down there as well, and it's the

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Speaker 1: mecca for the NFL. Over that course, you know the

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01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: course of that week, and it always is. But I've

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Speaker 1: also heard some rumblings, like you said, and it's starting

1314
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: to change. Players aren't as enamored with being a part

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01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: of it. They're starting to make business decisions. They're starting

1316
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: to come out of college a little bit more well

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01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: funded by their nil money. I mean, they don't have,

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01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, they're not really scraping around. Some of them

1319
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: are going to take pay cuts for the first time

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Speaker 1: in history, right, I mean, because they're going to be

1321
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: a low draft pick in the NFL and they were

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01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: a star college. The whole thing. Is there a chance

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Speaker 1: that the NFL combine ever goes away or it becomes

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01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: something almost unrecognizable, because really, we hear a lot about

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01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: how important the medicals are. Ain't nobody televising the medicals?

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01:05:58,920 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 4: Right? Well, so there's two sides of it. I think

1328
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 4: the players are realizing, hey, I'm not going to do

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01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 4: anything to affect my own stock. Right If you think

1330
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 4: I'm a four to four player and I run four

1331
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 4: to five, and it's crazy how that messes with your brain. Right,

1332
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 4: The difference between a four four nine and a four

1333
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 4: to five to one completely changes your perception about a player.

1334
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 4: We're all humans and we're all affected by that. So

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01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 4: players are taking that step to say I'm not going

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01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 4: to do anything to negatively affect my draft position. But

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01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 4: teams are working at it from the other side too.

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01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 4: They have more data than ever. They have game data,

1339
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 4: computer vision technology, and software to track game speed. They

1340
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 4: don't have the chips in the shoulder pads that they

1341
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 4: have in the NFL, they don't have that in college

1342
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 4: right now, but almost every team has some source of

1343
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 4: in game speed, max speeds, change of direction information. So

1344
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 4: there are big data sources that are already tracking these things.

1345
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 4: So what teams are trying to do is they're scrambling

1346
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 4: to say, can we can we predict a guy's forty times?

1347
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 4: And if we can, I don't care if he doesn't run,

1348
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 4: We've got his game speed if we had already predicted

1349
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 4: off of game film. So teams are already preparing for

1350
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 4: fewer and fewer workouts, and then players are working out

1351
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 4: less and less. So yeah, it might come to a head.

1352
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 4: I saw people predicting, hey, ten years from now, this

1353
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 4: doesn't happen. It could. It's absolutely a possibility. I'd be sad.

1354
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 4: That's a lot of stakes, it's a lot of interactions,

1355
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 4: it's a lot of walking around seeing GM's. It's a

1356
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 4: fun way at Starbucks. You never know what's gonna happen

1357
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 4: out there. I'm gonna miss it, but yeah, I could

1358
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 4: go away.

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Speaker 1: You know the shrimp cocktail, right, it's that. It's true

1360
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: because it's a huge social gathering for the league and

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01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: for these coaches and for staffs. You you walk in,

1362
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm serious, you walk into a restaurant and there's like

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01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: five head coaches sitting at a table and.

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01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones's Cowboys bus. So I'm sitting right on one

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01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 3: of the main streets of the city.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's a it's a real different environment where

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Speaker 1: and a lot of conversations are had in person that

1368
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: effect transactions, right, gms cross paths with each other and

1369
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: strike up a conversation. It happens it constantly. Well, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it's legal. Legal tampering starts Monday. But look, we

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01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: were all at the hotels. We saw we saw everybody talking.

1372
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: I know there's some discussions going on a couple of weeks.

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01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: Early good stuff. Steve's Steve Palozolo, Thanks for coming on

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01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: thirty Third Team, and thanks also for your check the

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01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: Mic podcast. You and Sam monson appreciate you being on

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01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: with us. Thanks for spending some time.

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01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 4: Of course, thanks guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Josh we we're gonna take a break,

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01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 1: come back and wrap things up to the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour. Right here on one Bill's Live. We are

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Speaker 1: presented by Clyde Help. We'll be right back after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome by for.

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Speaker 4: One of those lives.

1384
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: Steep task along with Josh Reid him for Brownie for

1385
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 1: the week. We're gonna go back to the tweet sheet. Now,

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Speaker 1: what is your favorite Bill's offseason acquisition. We've got a ton.

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01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: We've listed a ton of them, some of the more

1388
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 1: obvious ones and some of the not so obvious ones

1389
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: from Salvator on the tweets sheet, he says, Jordan Poyer

1390
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: he killed it from day one. I agree with that.

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01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he and Michael I kind of go

1392
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 3: hand and hand in this conversation.

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01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: Right for Bill's fans, they do. I'll say this, when

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01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: McDermott was here and they signed those two first big

1395
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: they signed them both like right out of the gate,

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01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: and everybody's like two safeties and they paid them like

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01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: five million bucks a Peter like what everybody's like, who

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01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: are these guys? What are you talking about? And sure

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01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: enough they turned into this duo that were and Poyer

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01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: was huge with it. So I thought that was that

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01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: was when I think Bill's fans' ability to appreciate players

1402
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: at off positions m particularly that spot.

1403
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point.

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01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: People started, because then we started hearing feedback from broadcasters

1405
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: and from other coaching staffs are like, man, those guys

1406
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 1: are those guys are a problem because nobody watches the

1407
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: safeties except the quarterback, right, And so it's like all

1408
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden, people started appreciating it. And yeah, it

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01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: became those two guys became the hallmark of the entire era.

1410
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 2: And they were so important inside the locker room.

1411
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 3: And those two really were big on flipping the switch

1412
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 3: and the culture and how things got turned around and

1413
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 3: the way that the Bills were looked at. And yeah,

1414
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 3: I mean it doesn't hurt when they're making eye popping plays.

1415
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, two of the better plays that I

1416
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 3: remember the last you know, ten years or so eight years.

1417
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 3: I mean you look at the Micah Hyde interception where

1418
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 3: he comes out of nowhere against Mac Jones, and.

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01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: It's just on the uh yeah in the Perfect Game, yo. Yeah.

1420
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 3: And how about the the on side kick, remember where

1421
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 3: he jumps up in pirouettes, Yeah, and takes it for

1422
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 3: a touchdown.

1423
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: I mean those two plays, and I'll say this as well,

1424
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: they they did something off the field that most Bills

1425
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: fans wholly appreciate it, particularly Poorer. He left for a year,

1426
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: went to Miami, went all right, and they you know,

1427
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: doing it and came back and you know the way

1428
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: they that people knew how they felt about that team

1429
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: and this place, and it goes a long way with

1430
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: Bill's fan this fan base, I think more so than

1431
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 1: any other fan base. They love you when you they

1432
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: know how much you love them. Yeah, and Poyer and

1433
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: Hide loved it here and Micah.

1434
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 3: Did it, not to the extent of Jordan Poyer, but

1435
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 3: he also came back. I mean, there's no way he's

1436
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 3: coming out of retirement to go anywhere else unless he

1437
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 3: gets a call from me.

1438
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 2: We've heard on this build.

1439
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: We've heard it from other guys as well, but yeah,

1440
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: that it meant something. From Tom on the tweet sheet,

1441
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 1: Terrell Owens, I got to see his most beautiful catch

1442
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: on a pass from fits and hey, we're talking about too.

1443
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: Earlier in the show, Tom, can you run that highlight

1444
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: from the ninety five yard touchdown pass in Jacksonville from

1445
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone. We've got a picture

1446
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: of Fits throws it off one leg like as hard

1447
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: as he can, and just it looks like he throws

1448
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: it straight up in the air. The guy's right in

1449
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: his face. It looks like he's trying to catch it himself.

1450
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: And of course to catches at the forty seven and

1451
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: goes the distance ninety five yards. One of the all time.

1452
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: That was the that was the Apex's era right there,

1453
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: and of course with Fits, what's not to love about that?

1454
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: Guy's a teammate and a player to cheer for. T

1455
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: O we hardly knew you, man, he was here for

1456
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: a year. I remember, he's like a five million dollar deal.

1457
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: And man, oh man, what a moment it was when

1458
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: he did end up being here in Buffalo.

1459
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 3: I wasn't here, but I can only imagine the spotlight

1460
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 3: put on Buffalo, right, because here's this guy whose attitude

1461
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 3: is larger than life itself, and it has an ego

1462
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 3: to match, yeah, but has talent to match it too, Right,

1463
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 3: I mean, you can have some of that.

1464
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can play and the guy's going into

1465
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame like six years from this, right

1466
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: and or seven years and you know he's there now.

1467
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: So it he was. He was a dude and he

1468
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: was another guy. When you see him walk into the room,

1469
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, i'd be a pro football player

1470
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: too if I was built like that. Pretty cool stuff.

1471
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: When they got him from Jess, he says, trading for

1472
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: Shady McCoy. We talked about that early in the show.

1473
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: For both of us. It's like, you remember where you

1474
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 1: were when you heard about it. I remember my reaction.

1475
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: I was like, for Keiko, for Keiko Alonso. I couldn't

1476
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: I could not believe it. And I knew that. That's

1477
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: when I knew Chip Kelly and all those guys in

1478
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: Phillip their days were numbered. If they're making a move

1479
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: like that, they are they have lost their mind.

1480
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 3: And it wasn't short. It wasn't long after that then

1481
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 3: he was he was gone.

1482
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: He was gone.

1483
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 3: He was out of the NFL and back in college

1484
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 3: where he belongs.

1485
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, he thought he was.

1486
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: Going to run. Now he's a coordinator at the NFL level,

1487
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 1: or it has been. He's just I could not believe that.

1488
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: You talk about winning the trade, the Bills won that

1489
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 1: trade going away.

1490
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't even close.

1491
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 3: And I know Keika a lot of that had to

1492
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 3: do with injuries that piled up during his career. But yeah, Lashawn,

1493
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 3: you know, he's borderline hall of fame good. I mean,

1494
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 3: some people would argue that he is a Hall of

1495
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 3: famer either way.

1496
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, it was really good here.

1497
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 3: He was coming off a thirteen hundred yard season with

1498
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 3: the Eagles when they traded him.

1499
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: When when you saw Lashawan play and get a lot

1500
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: of touches in a game, and you just he was

1501
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: whatever game it was. Now you can pick any team,

1502
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 1: you can pick any roster you can pick. He was

1503
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 1: the best player on the field. When he they handed

1504
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: him the ball, the lights went on. Man, he was

1505
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: he was outstanding.

1506
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:07,520
Speaker 3: That was a time when the Bills didn't have playmakers.

1507
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 3: The defense has had to game plan for it, and

1508
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 3: Lashawn gave them a guy that the defenses had to go.

1509
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 3: If we don't stop that guy, it's going to be

1510
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 3: a long game. The other thing about Lashawn is that

1511
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 3: because I watched him and we talked about earlier in

1512
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 3: college and high school and the NFL.

1513
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: He always made it look easy. It almost looked effort.

1514
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: His style was it was just having fun to watch.

1515
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:34,879
Speaker 1: His style was riveting. I mean, he came out he

1516
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: was he had those shimmy moves and stuff in the

1517
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:43,799
Speaker 1: In the secondary, he's changed the direction. Yeah, there's nobody

1518
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: like him.

1519
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 6: He was.

1520
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: Really he was a fantastic running back and I was.

1521
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 1: I think the reaction to signing and getting him in

1522
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: that trade for the terms that we talked about stuff

1523
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 1: was the most startling thing. Even the t O thing

1524
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, because Too was a free

1525
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: agent and all that trading for this guy for in

1526
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: the player for player swap. It's a rare occurrence in

1527
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: the NFL at all anyway, And and the Bills immediately

1528
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 1: signed him to a new deal and they're like, oh man,

1529
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: we got it. We've got to tie him up. And

1530
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 1: I can't believe how I it made me feel when

1531
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: they got him. I was like, oh my gosh, you

1532
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: know what. I could not believe it.

1533
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to.

1534
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: I still can't believe.

1535
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 3: Right yeah, right, he's watching him these highlights right now.

1536
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 3: One of the things that I don't want to gloss

1537
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:30,879
Speaker 3: over here with Lashawn is Josh Allen's rookie year. Midway

1538
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 3: through the season, Lashaw McCoy stood at that microphone and said,

1539
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you right now.

1540
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 2: They got there.

1541
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: There's the guy.

1542
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 2: They got the guy. Now.

1543
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 3: Look, Josh Allen's talent would have led him to becoming

1544
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 3: the guy. But as a rookie trying to figure out

1545
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 3: your way in the NFL and you have that guy

1546
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 3: say that he believes you're going to be the guy.

1547
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 2: That's got to go a long way.

1548
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1549
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: I mean because when you're in the locker room and

1550
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: you're interacting, when you're in the huddle and you're listening

1551
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 1: to him, and you see the changes week by week

1552
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: that we saw from Josh. Josh was you could see

1553
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: Josh grow week over week over week. And at the

1554
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: end of that season when the Miami game, they were

1555
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: in Miami and it's the game you'll remember, it's the

1556
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: game where Kiko was playing for Miami, Yes, and Josh

1557
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: chased Kiko down the field. Keko's trying to stay in

1558
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: front of him, find him. And then it was the

1559
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: charge play game where Charles Clay had the ball go

1560
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: off his face mess for the winning touchdown after Josh

1561
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 1: ran around like him. Josh absolutely lifted the entire game

1562
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: onto his back on both sides. I mean he was

1563
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 1: carrying the entire game for that and almost won it

1564
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: single handedly. That's when I knew. I was like, man,

1565
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: he's the guy. But that was that was six or

1566
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 1: eight weeks after Lashawn had got into the podium said

1567
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: you know, you got the guy. Nobody knew and he

1568
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: could see.

1569
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 3: It, And in typical Lashan fashion, he brings that up

1570
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 3: on every podcast he goes. He's like, yeah, I told

1571
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 3: everybody that Josh Allen was gonna be the guy.

1572
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 1: That's true. That's that's pretty young, right from Andrews, says

1573
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: Cornelius Bennett. We traded for him. I knew the Bills

1574
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,759
Speaker 1: were finally serious about winning a Super Bowl. Now, technically speaking,

1575
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: he's not an off season acquisition because he came in

1576
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: week eight or nine of the nineteen eighty seven season,

1577
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: right after the strike. It's when Bill Pullion worked at

1578
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: three team deal to get him. Bills Rams Colts all

1579
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: swapped picks and players and came away maybe all three

1580
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 1: teams getting better, and Biscuit shows up. I was like, oh,

1581
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: man this day. He's a dude.

1582
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your feeling like in the locker room when

1583
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 2: when they pull off that kind of trade.

1584
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: Well, we did in the middle of the season, right,

1585
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: and we just come off the strike. So everybody's head

1586
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: was a little bit scattered, right because what are we

1587
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 1: doing here? You know, we the strike happened, we're out.

1588
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: We had we went zero and three during the strike.

1589
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: We got you know, we got to go. We were

1590
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: eight and two outside of the strike and we couldn't

1591
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. The whole thing. Cornelie comes in

1592
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 1: and we start practicing, and he was just they were

1593
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: sprinkling him in because you know, everything's all installed. He

1594
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 1: just kind of piecemealing him the defense a little bit,

1595
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit gets in. It's like,

1596
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: oh he's he's pretty fast. He's really big, and he's

1597
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: really really fast. You know. Elway's dropping back and he's

1598
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: getting the head and the ball slapped out of his

1599
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 1: hands before he can even cock it back to throw it. Uh. Yeah,

1600
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: it was. He was a different dude, and we got

1601
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: him and man, oh man. Uh he was a difference

1602
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: maker right away, and he was a tremendous human being.

1603
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 1: As well. Just a tremendous dude, so he fit right in.

1604
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: He was. It was a plus at every le He was,

1605
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, his first player picked or whatever it was.

1606
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: He was all of it. He was every bit of

1607
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 1: it and showed up like that And it took a

1608
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: minute to see it because he couldn't get on the

1609
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: field right away in the middle of the season, was

1610
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: running start kind of thing. He had to catch up

1611
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. Then then when they started putting him

1612
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 1: in and he started practicing every rep with the number

1613
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: one defense and stuff, and he's out, he's running down,

1614
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: he's carrying the tight end down the middle of the field,

1615
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: running with him, turns around and spear and like just

1616
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: turns around. Balls coming over the top. He just he

1617
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 1: reaches up with his right hand and just like stabs it,

1618
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: pulls it down and he's planted and gone the other way,

1619
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: and everybody else is like going, hey, did you just

1620
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: see it? And they're like not even stopped yet. They're

1621
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: like they can't even flip the switch before he's headed

1622
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: the other way. Yeah, he was off the charts and

1623
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 1: he was. He was. He was a Hall of Fame

1624
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 1: caliber player. He really was. Also from a different Andrew.

1625
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: He says, my favorite all time Buffalo Bill's offseason acquisition

1626
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,759
Speaker 1: has to be Ted Washington. He was a crucial addition

1627
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: that anchored the Bill's defensive line. Yes, Ted Washington, they

1628
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: got Ted. Nobody knew who he was. He was a

1629
01:20:54,040 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: quintessential nose tackle six' four plus three hundred and fifty

1630
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: or three hundred and thirty five pounds plus on light.

1631
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: Day they wouldn't he wouldn't tell you what he. WEIGHED

1632
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: i Remember Rusty, jones the legendary strength conditioning coach of

1633
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: The bills at the, time and After ted had been

1634
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: here for a, year down there working out lifting and.

1635
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: Stuff And ted's down there literally doing four hundred pounds multiple,

1636
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 1: reps just pumping it. Out And rusty what is his

1637
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: what is his? MAX i, mean what's he And rusty's goes?

1638
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 1: O what's whatever he wants to? Do is he? Limitless

1639
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: he could lift any weight he wanted to, lift if

1640
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: you gave, him if you wanted to train for. It

1641
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: his top end is. Limitless ted played for nineteen seasons

1642
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: The National Football. League he was never on a defense

1643
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: that was outside the top five in run. Defense if

1644
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 1: he was on the if he was on the. Team

1645
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: their defense was top five run defense by.

1646
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 2: Default he felt like a corn cob pipe HE i, mean.

1647
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: He was built like a six foot four inch oak tree,

1648
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: stump and you it was as easy to move. Him

1649
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: it was easier to move the stump than it was.

1650
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: HIM i, mean he had his best seasons.

1651
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 2: Here he wore sacks and four and a, half, sex

1652
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 2: made a couple Of pro. Bowls he scouted.

1653
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 1: Unbelievable he was as big as they, come. THICK i

1654
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: remember one, time you, know we're fooling. Around we're a good,

1655
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 1: friends and we're. FRIENDS i still count as a. Friend

1656
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: and you, know guys in the locker room are fooling

1657
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: around and just knocking around and laughing and talking about

1658
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: what they did with. It you, KNOW i did this in.

1659
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: College you did that in. College And ted was a

1660
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 1: national championship wrestler as a heavy super heavyweight in college

1661
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 1: or whatever it. Was AND i was, like really. Wrestling he, goes,

1662
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 1: YEAH i go with. You AND i was, like AND i, thought,

1663
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: well my quickness will help, me all. Right SO i

1664
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 1: was kind of like show, me you. Know so we're

1665
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: squared off right in the locker. ROOM i kind of

1666
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 1: we're circling. Stuff SO i got a little too close

1667
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: and his arm he took his right arm AND i

1668
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 1: got within, reach WHICH i THOUGHT i was didn't. Reach

1669
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: it was his arm shot. Out he grabbed me by

1670
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 1: his right on my left. Forearm it was like a.

1671
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: RATTLESNAKE i didn't see it until it was already around my.

1672
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: Forearm and his grip his hand was so, big and

1673
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 1: you KNOW i was a. Pipsqueak his hand was so

1674
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: big and his grip was so. Strong he was, like,

1675
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: well like taking a broomstick and turning the broomstick in your.

1676
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: Hand that was so he grabbed my forearm like it

1677
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: was a broomstick and bent it started to bend it

1678
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 1: AND i was like moving with. IT i was like,

1679
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 1: ah because it hurt as he gripped, me and the

1680
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: tidy he gripped, me he just moved it down to

1681
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: the AND i he just put me on with one,

1682
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: hand put me on the ground and turned me on my.

1683
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: Back because of the pain in MY i thought he

1684
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: was gonna snap both, arms both bones in my. Forearm

1685
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: the grip was so strong and he and it hurt so.

1686
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: Bad just have him his one and grip on. ME

1687
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: i was like on my back, SAYING i, stop, stop give.

1688
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:04,799
Speaker 3: Up and that is the only wrestling story That Steve

1689
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 3: tasker has With Ted washington from then.

1690
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: ON i was in the. BACK i was in the

1691
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: back pulling money out to bet on. HIM i, was,

1692
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: YEAH i, GOT i, GOT i got two hundred On.

1693
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: Ted who's he wrestling your offensive? Line give me three

1694
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: hundred On? Ted Big ted had an interception with The.

1695
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 1: Bills he, was, yeah Well i'll say, this and you

1696
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: talk about him like, that and people, say why is

1697
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: he you, know you know people more people know about.

1698
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: Him why don't don't more people know about? Him why don't?

1699
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 1: They and the simple fact of the, matter and this

1700
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 1: is his interception Is. Indianapolis. Uh the reason more people

1701
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: don't know about him is because he didn't have any.

1702
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: Sacks he doesn't have very many. Sacks he doesn't rush

1703
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 1: that he didn't rush the. Passer and you see these

1704
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 1: highlights from him in This indianapolis game we're. Watching he

1705
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 1: stands up the. CENTER i, mean look at him sitting.

1706
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 1: THERE i, mean look how big Hit the center just

1707
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: disappears Behind you can't see the center standing on the

1708
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,839
Speaker 1: other side of. Him he's he was just a, giant

1709
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: but he didn't have the pass rush moves and, Unfortunately,

1710
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: YEAH i say THE nfl is about runner stopped the. Run,

1711
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 1: yeah that's great until they started voting for The hall Of.

1712
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: Fame then they don't care if you can stop the, run.

1713
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: Right teddy was an, elite an elite football. Player.

1714
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah you look at his.

1715
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 3: Tackles he had ninety two eighty, Fifty like that's a

1716
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 3: ton for a nose.

1717
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: Tackle, yeah he. Was he was. Fantastic. Uh one more

1718
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 1: before we, Go Bryce. Pop Imagine Miles garrett Or Bruce

1719
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: smith getting combined With Micah, parsons which Was Bryce. Pop

1720
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: we talked about that. Earlier Bryce pop was a guy

1721
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: who came in and he was like that he was

1722
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 1: A Micah parson's position and on the other side Of

1723
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: Bruce smith or you, know Or Miles, garrett the two

1724
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: of those. Guys same thing With Cornelius, bennett all those,

1725
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 1: guys And Bryce pop comes in and cashed. IN i,

1726
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:51,600
Speaker 1: mean he was a Defensive.

1727
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 2: Player of The year seventeen sacks and.

1728
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: That was a that Was nobody knew who Who bryce

1729
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 1: was before he showed, up and then all of a,

1730
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: sudden he's ON weaedi, Boxes.

1731
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 3: YEAH i wasn't sure THAT i knew of him twelve

1732
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 3: years ago WHEN i got To buffalo and everyone's.

1733
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: Like Bryce, pop you gotta go back and look At Bryce.

1734
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: Pop AND i, did AND i was, like, Whoa, yeah all,

1735
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: Right we're gonna take a. Break Josh. Reed Steve tasker

1736
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: was One Bill's live, here presented By Colideh. Health we'll

1737
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: be back to wrap things up right after. This stay with.

1738
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: Us welcome back to one of those, Lives Steve, Tasker Josh.

1739
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 1: Reed here wrap things. Up we've been asking you what

1740
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: your Favorite bill's off season acquisition, was and we got

1741
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: a ton of, responses lists from over people as old

1742
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: as me who are chiming. In how about this, One Conrad.

1743
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: Dobler you remember? Him does that ring a bell at

1744
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: all of? You that does not ring a? Bell Conrad.

1745
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: Dobler and for those of you out there who don't,

1746
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: REMEMBER i know there's a certain generation who do was

1747
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: famous for being the dirtiest football player in the history

1748
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: of The National Football.

1749
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 2: LEAGUE i like.

1750
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: It he in this And david, Says Conrad, dobler he

1751
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 1: gave THE o line. Grit Conrad, dobler that was his

1752
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: claim to. Fame he was the dirtiest player in The

1753
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: National Football. League people like broadcasters set it on the.

1754
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: Air it was a different. Time it was a different.

1755
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 1: Time And i've said it. Before if you go back

1756
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: and watch THE nfl in the nineteen seventies and certainly

1757
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: in the nineteen, sixties but the early, seventies it was

1758
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 1: not a full step, away but maybe a half a

1759
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: step away from a bar.

1760
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 2: Fight, yeah you, look Night Train lane is some of

1761
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 2: the some of the. HIGHLIGHTS i look back in the

1762
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 2: old school And i'm, like, holy.

1763
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: It was that guy Is it was a bar fight with,

1764
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 1: Huddles that's all it. Was it was a different. World

1765
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: And Conrad, dobler that's a great. Call call also From,

1766
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 1: jason he says on more, recently of, Course Michael. Hoyt

1767
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 1: hoyt looked to be that the catalyst for what was

1768
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: gonna unlock everything The bill's defense wanted to. Be last

1769
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 1: year we had him And Ed oliver for two quarters of.

1770
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: FOOTBALL i can't wait to see him In Jim leonards.

1771
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 1: Defense, yeah and getting.

1772
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 3: Healthy he was on Aeron woods podcast and said that

1773
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 3: he's it takes him on the right.

1774
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 1: Track, yeah it takes a while the body only heals so,

1775
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: fast and certainly he'll have some good years ahead of.

1776
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: Him but, man oh, man you've hit in the arena.

1777
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 1: TONIGHT i am going going To i'm going to The saves.

1778
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: Game you are, yes AND i cannot up.

1779
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 2: Three hours ago and that's All i'm.

1780
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 1: Getting i'm. GETTING i want to see the pre game

1781
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 1: AND i want to SEE i want to See tage

1782
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: going AND i want him to go over and Get.

1783
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: JACK i want him to go Get. Jack it's jacket,

1784
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 1: on come, on bring, over come on out and see

1785
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 1: both of them. There it's gonna, BE i, think be.

1786
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 1: AWESOME i can't wait What i'm so proud of those.

1787
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 2: Guys what an atmosphere it's gonna.

1788
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: Be, MAN i it was just THAT i WAS i

1789
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: was going crazy for the for the hockey on The,

1790
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: olympics both the women's team and the men's. Team love

1791
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 1: both of them was so. Much it was so much.

1792
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: Fun the boys watching it with me in the.

1793
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 2: Morning it was.

1794
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: Great IF i knew women's hockey was gonna look like,

1795
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: That i'd be watching it and they were. Good i'm

1796
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: going to the game about. DOMINANT i. Know it was so.

1797
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 1: Fun i'm, Yeah I'm. Josh you're gonna be in with

1798
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: us the rest of the, week, Right, yeah, well, hey

1799
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: we'll recap some of that savors.

1800
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 2: Tomorrow. Hope that's.

1801
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 1: Right that's that's the, chance that's the that's the. Plan

1802
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: that's the. Plan thanks To Steve, polozolo the thirty third

1803
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 1: team being with us. Today we're gonna be back tomorrow

1804
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: talk more about the off. Season, uh we're gonna have

1805
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: another question for you to come in and call. In,

1806
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 1: uh so be with, Us Josh, Ree Steve tasker here

1807
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:39,600
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live group presented By Collida, health and

1808
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: we'll see you tomorrow at one