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Speaker 4: Here's Paul Calvici. I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready.

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Speaker 4: Paul, And maybe some of these teams are starting to

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Speaker 1: No, Paula, you're right about that, No way. You know,

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Speaker 1: No, Polly, I wouldn't be afraid that it's going to

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Speaker 1: It'd be huge. Can you imagine honestly right now, that

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Speaker 4: Well, here's Jonathan Gannon, the head coach, on the upside

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Speaker 10: Sky's limit. You know, obviously had a really good year

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Speaker 4: And there's no doubt he's asked to block. I mean,

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Speaker 1: No, there's no doubt about it, PAULI, it really is.

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Speaker 1: It's just a huge advantage. You think of the San

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Speaker 4: And here's what Trey McBride says he wants to improve

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Speaker 9: I want to be a better run blocking tight end.

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Speaker 9: a lot of plays that I left out there. You know,

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Speaker 4: You hear how he's hard on himself too. I see

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Speaker 1: No, you want him to be George kittle not Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 1: You want him to be George kittle Man. Let him

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Speaker 4: Remember we had his tight end coach on Ben Steele,

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Speaker 4: right and what he say Trey McBride would have a

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Speaker 4: You don't have a lot of depth right now, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pauly, that's really a good point right there. But

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean with eleven picks and all those picks

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Speaker 4: djil though you're pretty familiar with Arizona before I ever

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Speaker 4: So wait a minute, what brought you to Arizona, right,

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Speaker 7: I haven't even been home.

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Speaker 4: you're just ready to go, yes, sir, all right, So

432
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Speaker 4: tell me about just you know, what you saw in

433
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Speaker 4: the Cardinals. Remember when you met the media earlier this offseason,

434
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Speaker 4: right after you just joined, and you talked about what

435
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Speaker 4: you saw, maybe especially in that Week eighteen game against

436
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Speaker 4: the Cardinals.

437
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 7: Aw Man.

438
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 8: Yeah, so last game of the season, really nothing to

439
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 8: really play for, Like when I was on my former team,

440
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 8: we were playing to you know, maybe sneak into the playoffs.

441
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 8: But just the energy and effort that the guys were

442
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Speaker 8: given and just seeing JG on this sideline, like really

443
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 8: into the game and without anything to play for it,

444
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Speaker 8: That's what kind of drew me in to this opportunity.

445
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Speaker 7: And I'm excited to be here.

446
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Speaker 4: So I mean, you know, look, if there's one thing

447
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 4: about your former head coach with the Seahawks, Pete Carroll,

448
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 4: he was known for his energy. Do you see a

449
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 4: similarity with the Cardinals head coach?

450
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 7: No doubt, no doubt. And yeah, that's that's all.

451
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 8: That's what drew me in, just seeing the similarities with Pete,

452
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 8: spending four years with Pete and then you know, kind

453
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 8: of looking over to the other sideline and saying like, yeah,

454
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Speaker 8: that's a guy I could play for.

455
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Speaker 4: How much do you think your Week seven game against

456
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 4: the Cardinals factored into their interest?

457
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Speaker 1: Right?

458
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm looking at it right now. For those

459
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Speaker 4: who don't remember, you had four punt returns for a

460
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 4: career high forty seven yards. You had a career long

461
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 4: thirty two yard return. You also had a kickoff return

462
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 4: for twenty four yards. Do you think you caught JG's

463
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 4: eye in that game?

464
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Speaker 5: Oh?

465
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 8: Man, I had a fun with that game too, by

466
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 8: my old teammate and childhood friend, Joey.

467
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 7: Blint, And that's right.

468
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I told him after the game, I'm like, yeah,

469
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Speaker 8: I gotta get you back for that, all right.

470
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Speaker 4: So all right, let's go back to your childhood. And

471
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Speaker 4: we're gonna get to j g here in a minute,

472
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Speaker 4: and we're gonna talk about the kickoff. But let's go

473
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: back to your childhood. So let me get this straight.

474
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Speaker 4: Your hometown of.

475
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Speaker 7: Brunswick, Georgia.

476
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Speaker 4: Brunswick, Georgia. By the way, I think of Brunswick, I

477
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Speaker 4: think of Bowling, Oh Brunswick.

478
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Speaker 7: No that no, no correlation.

479
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Speaker 4: No correlation. In fact, couldn't be further from the truth.

480
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 4: Or jim Omhundra got into it. So Brunswick was once

481
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 4: called the shrimp capital of the world. Yeah, so it's

482
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Speaker 4: on the coast.

483
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Speaker 8: We've got a shrimp and gritz veestival. It's fire like,

484
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Speaker 8: it's amazing.

485
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Speaker 4: You also have what's known as the Brunswick rock and

486
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Speaker 4: stew Belee oh, with.

487
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Speaker 8: The Brunswick stews, that's also amazing. Like you go out there,

488
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 8: you probably leave like ten pounds.

489
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Speaker 4: Here, okay, because yeah, the city ladies claimed to the

490
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Speaker 4: Brunswick stew, which consists of it's a tomato tomato based

491
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Speaker 4: stew containing various types of lima, beans, corn, okra and

492
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Speaker 4: other vegetables and one or more types of meat. So

493
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Speaker 4: you're very familiar with this for sure. When you're hungry.

494
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Speaker 4: How much stew can you? You put it down?

495
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Speaker 7: Uh? Yeah, yeah, give me a bowl or two.

496
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Speaker 4: Here's what's here's what's ironical, if you will, as I

497
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Speaker 4: make up a word. Is just recently on the Big

498
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Speaker 4: Red Rage here we had d line coach Derek lebron On.

499
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Speaker 4: He hails from broke Bridge, Louisiana, the crawfish capital of

500
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Speaker 4: the world. So somebody needs to host a cookout and

501
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: we all need to be invited, either you or coach Lebonn.

502
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Speaker 7: Oh, we can do it.

503
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 8: We can do it during the season, before the season,

504
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 8: after the season.

505
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Speaker 7: You just let me know it's right.

506
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Speaker 4: You want to hear yourself to your old lineman, hold

507
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 4: the cookout? Yeah, that is a good, good idea.

508
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 7: All right.

509
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 4: So you're about an hour north of Jacksonville. Tell us

510
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 4: about your high school. How old is this high school?

511
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 4: It goes back to the seventeen hundreds.

512
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, Colonial towns.

513
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Speaker 4: Wow, Gwynn Academy, and you guys are known as the

514
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Speaker 4: Red Terrors.

515
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 7: Yeah. There Red Terrors.

516
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 8: Just like a mascot that lives like a pig, makes

517
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 8: it like a devil.

518
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 7: I don't know.

519
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 4: Wow, sounds sinister.

520
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they used to be called like the

521
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Speaker 8: terriers or something.

522
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, Okay, and say it from terriers to

523
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 4: terrors because terror is a lot tougher than the terriers.

524
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Speaker 7: I think that changed in like the seventies.

525
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Speaker 4: Gotcha, Okay, tell us about your high school days, because

526
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Speaker 4: you played everything from kick return, punt return, receiver dB,

527
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Speaker 4: running back, and even some quarterback.

528
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 7: Yeah.

529
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 8: So I was mainly a quarterback. So I spent a

530
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Speaker 8: year and a half playing everything under the sign, and

531
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Speaker 8: then my last three and a half years, I you know,

532
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 8: I did my thing at quarterback.

533
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Speaker 4: So I don't know who the emergency quarterback is on

534
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 4: this team right now. But are you going to have

535
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 4: that conversation with Jonathan Gannon?

536
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 7: Are you?

537
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Speaker 4: Are you still equipped to play quarterback if needed?

538
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 7: For sure?

539
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 8: I was actually the emergency quarterback for Seattle.

540
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Speaker 4: There you go, yeah, okay, all right, So what was

541
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Speaker 4: it like in Seattle for those four years? I'm thinking,

542
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 4: here's here's one plus to being in Seattle for four

543
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 4: years is we don't like the forty nine ers rams either,

544
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 4: So you're already pre programmed, right, No learning curve for you.

545
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Speaker 8: On that one, not at all, not at all, especially

546
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Speaker 8: especially the red and Gold Team.

547
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Speaker 4: Especially do Yeah, the Niners. What was it about Niner Seahawks?

548
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 8: No, it was just I hated them from the time

549
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 8: they said, yeah, that's who we gotta play twice.

550
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 4: You know what, here's my theory. I think it goes

551
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 4: back to Peak Carroll and Jim Harbaugh because the whole

552
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 4: Peak Carrol Jim Harbaugh Stanford USC thing and they didn't

553
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: like each other then, and I think it carried over

554
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 4: to the NFL.

555
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.

556
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: What I always saw against there. So how about when

557
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 4: you go against the Seahawks this year after four years

558
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: there they drafted you. You're gonna play against them two

559
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 4: times this coming season. What do your emotions are gonna

560
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 4: be like in that game? Those games?

561
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 7: Cool?

562
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 8: Come and Collick that I just can't wait. I can't wait.

563
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 8: I just want to compete against the boys and you know,

564
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 8: show them what they missed out on.

565
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: How much more production? And our guest is DJ Dallas,

566
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 4: former Cardinal for current Cardinal, former Seahawks running back and

567
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 4: kick returner. But how much more production do you think

568
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 4: you can provide? Then you've been able to showcase so

569
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 4: far in your NFL career.

570
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 8: Uh, kind of got put on the shelf a little

571
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 8: bit up in Seattle, and uh, you know, I'm just

572
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 8: here to compete. I'm just here to compete and just

573
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 8: bring my best self for the team. I just want

574
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 8: to win, man, That's what I told JG from the

575
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 8: time I signed. I just want to win, That's what

576
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 8: and I feel like we're on the right path to

577
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 8: do that.

578
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 4: So when I look behind James Connor and the step chart,

579
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Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, it's wide open for carries

580
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 4: behind James Connor. I mean, so to that degree, what

581
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 4: do you think or what do you hope to show

582
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 4: in training camp these coaches as to what sort of

583
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: running back you are?

584
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 8: Uh, that I'm a three down back, that I can

585
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 8: do everything between the tackles, outside of the tackles, catch

586
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 8: the ball out of the backfield, and that I'm reliable

587
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 8: and trustworthy.

588
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: And then you've been returning punts and kicks since high school.

589
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah.

590
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: I mean in terms of experience at that part of

591
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 4: the game, I got imagine your confidence level is pretty high.

592
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 7: Oh for sure.

593
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 8: I think I like punts over kicks. This, you know,

594
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 8: that kind of danger factor is excited.

595
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Speaker 4: What do you see when you're returning to punt because

596
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Speaker 4: I think a lot of us look at that they're like, man,

597
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: that's got to be chaos. But I've talked to guys

598
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: as punt returns. They say, as soon as they feel

599
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 4: that punt, things sort of slow down. It's almost matrix style.

600
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 8: What do you see everything like after the ball is caught, Like,

601
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 8: that's the fastest part from the punt. The ball goes

602
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 8: in the air to in your arms, that's like the

603
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 8: fastest part. But as soon as the ball hits your

604
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 8: hands or your arms however you catch it, it's like

605
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 8: everything slows down. You don't think about anything. It's just

606
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 8: it's almost like Tom slows.

607
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: That's interesting. That's a all right, now their new kickoff rule. Okay,

608
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: we'll get into this a little bit. But here's your

609
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: head coach talking to the media. And even the coaches

610
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: are trying to get a handle because it's so different

611
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: and because you can't work with the players. There's enough

612
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: assistant coaches that they fielded the guys out there and

613
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: they tried to go through schemes. Here's Jonathan Gannon.

614
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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, we've been repping it out there. I've been

615
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 10: our five. Yeah, I think it's gonna be an exciting play,

616
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 10: you know what I mean? So Jeff and Sam have studied.

617
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 10: They put us out there. We were playing a week ago,

618
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 10: had a videotaped. I thought I made every tackle. He

619
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Speaker 10: said maybe not. But I didn't go back there in return.

620
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 10: But I was close to him by the time I

621
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 10: took off and he had the ball. I'm like, wow,

622
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 10: I'm on you man. So it's gonna be cool.

623
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Speaker 4: If you haven't figured it out yet. Your head coach

624
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 4: is really competitive. He's very competitive.

625
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 7: And I love that. Yeah, we'll fit. I will get along.

626
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 4: As competitive as he is. And this guy who played

627
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 4: at Louisville in as good as shape as he still is.

628
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Speaker 4: There's no way JG could tackle you in the open field?

629
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Speaker 7: Is there no chance?

630
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Speaker 4: All right? So tell us about the new kickoff because

631
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Speaker 4: here's what I'm seeing, all right. Fair catches are no

632
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: longer allowed. Any ball caught in the field to play

633
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 4: must be returned. So a lot of people figure the

634
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: kickoff returner is going to skyrocket in value, hence one

635
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: of the reasons the Cardinals signed DJ Dallas. Take it

636
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Speaker 4: from there, and what do you think about these new rules?

637
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 5: Uh?

638
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 7: So I watched a little bit of it, and.

639
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 8: It's uh, it's interesting, right, you're like five yards from

640
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 8: each other to start, and every play that I've seen

641
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 8: or watched of this kickoff, the returner makes somewhat of

642
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 8: a big impact. Either you start at the fifteen or

643
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 8: you start plus forty five. And I don't know if

644
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 8: that's what. If that's what our coaches decide that they

645
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 8: that's like the route that they want to go.

646
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Speaker 7: I'm with that.

647
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 8: I'll do it, and as long as it's helping us win,

648
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 8: I'll do it.

649
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 7: So if they want to put me back there, I'll

650
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 7: gladly go.

651
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 4: I've seen and DJ Dallas is our guest here on

652
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Speaker 4: the Big Red Rage, I've seen coaches speculate that you know,

653
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: it's gonna be much more of a play, there's gonna

654
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 4: be many more schemes and x's and o's to it.

655
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Speaker 4: Do you agree with that?

656
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 7: Oh for sure. And that's why JG's working on it now.

657
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: Right, So what sort of impact do you think it's

658
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 4: gonna make? Because last year I think there were almost

659
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 4: two thousand touchbacks in the NFL.

660
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 8: It was sick, right, I mean it was kind of

661
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 8: a dead or fair catches and that just made the

662
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 8: game not fun. So yeah, I think it'll be. I

663
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 8: think it'll bring It'll bring the returner back into the

664
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 8: game rather than just like kick a touchback. Now we

665
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Speaker 8: go to the twenty.

666
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: Five I saw at the press commence where you said

667
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: special teams players need a special attitude. For sure, What

668
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: do you mean by that? Break that down?

669
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 8: So when I say special teams players need a special attitude,

670
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 8: I mean like special teams, you only get a certain

671
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 8: amount of opportunities per game, and in those certain amount

672
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 8: of opportunities, the game can either be won or lost. Right,

673
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 8: So you gotta go out there with the mentality that

674
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 8: this is my job, this is my role, this is

675
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 8: what I'm here to do, and I gotta do it

676
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 8: to the best of my ability because the game is

677
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 8: kind of riding on this.

678
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna get We're gonna see it in

679
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 4: the preseason, guys, to be able to wrap it and

680
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: get some of that. Now, as for the off season,

681
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: we'd like to say winning the off season. You and

682
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Speaker 4: Trey McBride combined to do just that on a USO tour.

683
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: Tell us about the trip to Poland.

684
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,239
Speaker 8: So the trip to Poland started with a couple you know,

685
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 8: airline delays, but that's the airlines these days.

686
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: Can't be easy to get to polling.

687
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. But uh yeah.

688
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Speaker 8: It was my first time meeting Trey, so that was

689
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 8: that was fun.

690
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 4: And you guys weren't even teammates at that point.

691
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 8: So we had just become teammates, never met each other.

692
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 8: Well okay, yeah, so we get the Poland. We're touring

693
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 8: a whole bunch of different bases in Poland, eight perogis

694
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Speaker 8: for the first time.

695
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Speaker 4: That's good.

696
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 7: Don't recommend them, Yeah, don't too many carbs.

697
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 8: What didn't you like, I don't know, just the texture

698
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 8: was like, oh no, don't recommend those, but like I

699
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 8: do recommend visiting Poland. And uh yeah, Poland was a

700
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 8: beautiful country. My favorite part was really just you know,

701
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 8: being around the soldiers because they came from Fort Stewart,

702
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 8: which is like twenty thirty minutes from my house, and

703
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 8: you know army guys. And my brother is actually an

704
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 8: eleven Charlie, which is a mortarman in the infantry. He

705
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 8: just graduated. So yeah, the army kind of holds a

706
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 8: special place to me.

707
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 4: So it's easy for you to have conversations with these

708
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 4: guys right, well for sure, for sure. I mean if

709
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 4: you know just the connections and then where they're and

710
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 4: then so these military guys, according to Trey, put you

711
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 4: guys to the test. Literally.

712
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, So we did a it's like the fitness test,

713
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 8: the military fitness test.

714
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 7: We're just gonna call it that.

715
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 4: So what that consists of.

716
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 8: You had a sprint drag carry, which is like you

717
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 8: gotta sprint like basically do a suicide drag some heavy weights,

718
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 8: then run with kettlebells, then do another suicide. You had

719
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 8: to do like a three minute plank or four minute plank.

720
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 8: Had to do like dead stop push ups like hand

721
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 8: release push ups. You got a dead lift like three

722
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 8: hundred and sixty five pounds, uh, and then you finish

723
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 8: all of that up with.

724
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 7: A two mile run.

725
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 4: That's what Trade dreaded because he's like, we don't train

726
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 4: for the long distance running.

727
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 8: Yeah no, We're like we're built for speed, like more

728
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 8: so speed than anything. And man, that two mile run

729
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 8: I stopped. I was like, yeah, I'm done. But then

730
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 8: I thought in my head, I'm like, dang, if I

731
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 8: get a bad score, like the worst score than my

732
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 8: brother I'm gonna dread it. I'm gonna regret it. And

733
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 8: I ended up still getting the worst score to him,

734
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 8: So I'm like, man, I should have just stopped.

735
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 7: Well.

736
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 4: And you know, the military guys, they see a couple

737
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: of NFL guys, they want to compete.

738
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, they were juiced up from Jump Street, and

739
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 8: I'm just like, oh, man, I already know what we're

740
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 8: getting into.

741
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I bet, I bet all right. Wrapping it up

742
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: with DJ Dalls. So it's the draft season. What do

743
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 4: you remember from the draft process when you went through

744
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 4: that and was there anything said about you that has

745
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 4: driven you ever since a lot of guys take that

746
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 4: personally and they use it as a chip on the

747
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 4: old shoulder pad.

748
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 7: Uh.

749
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I just remember waiting around and just watching all

750
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 8: the guys get drafted before me, and I feel like

751
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 8: I listened to like a little bit of what everybody

752
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 8: was saying, but uh, I just felt like some of

753
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 8: the guys that went before me, you know, didn't do

754
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 8: what I did or didn't bring the same value that

755
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 8: I did.

756
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 7: And I felt like, or.

757
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 8: I still feel to this day, that that's like the

758
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 8: chip that that's carrying me throughout my career.

759
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: From Brunswick, Georgia to Seattle to Arizona. Hail from a

760
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: high school that's produced Adam Wainwright, Davis Love the third,

761
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: Kwame Brown, your cousin Darius Slay. Yeah, that's that's impressive.

762
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 4: It's great to meet you, DJ. We look forward to

763
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: this season. Yes, sir, I appreciate that we continue with

764
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 4: a big red rage.

765
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 7: With the sixth pick in the twenty twenty three.

766
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Speaker 8: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Paris Johnson Junior, Ohios.

767
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 6: Kay high high football character, highly intelligent, well spoken, mature, dependable,

768
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 6: and you can tell that he's made of the right things,

769
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 6: the things that we want not only our offensive lineman

770
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 6: to be made of, but what our entire.

771
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 4: Team franchise tackle. Taken in Round one a year ago,

772
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Speaker 4: number six overall, Paris Johnson Junior ended up playing every

773
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 4: single snap of every single game last season. And we

774
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 4: don't have time to go through the list i lluminaries

775
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 4: that he went against in terms of the elite pass

776
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 4: rushers that just happened to be on the Cardinals schedule.

777
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: So you talk about a rookie campaign that you figure

778
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 4: is going to pay off going into year two. Paris

779
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: Johnson Junior right now is destined to be one of

780
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: those foundational building pieces for this Cardinals team. The only

781
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 4: question now is he playing right tackle or left tackle?

782
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 4: And we'll find that out at some point. Paul klvic

783
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: Ron Wolfley, it's the Big Red Rage presented by San

784
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: tan Ford in Gilbert So, Jonah Williams, Paris Johnson Junior.

785
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 4: I mean, boom, those two boxes are checked at offensive tackle,

786
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 4: are they not.

787
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: Wolf Yeah, now you're right about that, Paulie. And one

788
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: of the things I love about this too, and I

789
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: think MANI would agree with this. You know, uh, there's

790
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: a philosophy, a draft philosophy that is out there that

791
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: you're going to go ahead and you're gonna draft rookies

792
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: and you're going to bring them into your organization, and

793
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: that rookie year is really gonna be a learning year.

794
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: That's what it's gonna be. Most of the time. You

795
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: draft guys with the idea that by year two they're

796
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: really going to be able to help you. And when

797
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: I say year two, I think of Paris Johnson Junior,

798
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: and I think of the fact, Paulie, to your point,

799
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: played every snap last year. Wasn't great in every game,

800
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: made some rookie mistakes, but you know what, when you

801
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: draft a guy like that, you're really projecting him into

802
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: year number two and how much he's gonna grow and

803
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: how much better he's truly gonna be.

804
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of speculation, not only number four

805
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 4: with the Cardinals, but number five with the Chargers. Their

806
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 4: head coach is Jim Harbaugh, who we know really well

807
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: from his days with the Niners in the NFC West.

808
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: Harbaugh telling the media recently just how physical he wants

809
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: their team to be, and he said that's how he's

810
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 4: running things right now with his team.

811
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Speaker 6: Quote.

812
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: My first goal is to make you harder to break,

813
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 4: said Harbaugh, because he wants to break teams in the

814
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 4: fourth quarter. Which reminds me of what Jonathan Gannon and

815
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 4: Maniasi Vord are doing with the Cardinals A and B.

816
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 4: Why I wouldn't be shocked with the Chargers traded out

817
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 4: of number five. Instead of taking tackle or receiver, they

818
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 4: trade down and take both because you've got to figure

819
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 4: Harbaugh values the tackle. That's the route maniasin Fort went

820
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 4: last year. And one of the big reasons why was

821
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: after they met Paris Johnson Junior, so many times games.

822
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 4: In fact, Manio SiPort today was asked about, you know

823
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 4: the nickname for all these Top thirty visits and how

824
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: he describes them.

825
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 6: We call it the County Fair, and we bring the

826
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 6: guys in and we put them through the paces and

827
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Speaker 6: try as best we can to replicate what a Wednesday

828
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 6: in November is going to be in our building. And so,

829
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 6: you know, I think what we find is that by

830
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 6: the end of the day, we have a pretty good

831
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 6: feel on multiple levels of who the player is as

832
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 6: a person, what they can handle mentally, and really what

833
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 6: they're about.

834
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Speaker 4: JG was nodding when Manias Sipports said that, you know,

835
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: by design, especially you know the big draft picks they

836
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 4: have first in second round, they try and have so

837
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 4: many multiple interviews and touch points with these guys because Wolfe,

838
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 4: as we found out over the years, it's not as

839
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: much about the players sometimes as it is about the person, right,

840
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 4: So you try and get to know the guy as

841
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: much as the player.

842
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, Paul. It just it cracks me up to

843
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: listen to right there to talk about this because listen

844
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: the player, Paul. You want to you want to watch

845
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: a player, and you want to look at the player

846
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: and determine if he can play in the National Football League.

847
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: What do you do? You watch the tape? Sure, that's

848
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: that's what you do. But to your point, how many

849
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: times we hear GM say, you know what we missed

850
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: on the person. We missed on the person. That's why

851
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: you want to get as much FaceTime as you possibly

852
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: can and do as much due diligence on every one

853
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: of these kids, every one of these guys that you

854
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: may be interested in drafting. You got to go out

855
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: and you got to put the work in to get

856
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: to know them as a person, because, as we all know,

857
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: that's where you miss the most amount of the time.

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00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 4: Here's mania support on what the decisions will be based upon.

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00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 6: What I can promise and what I always promise is

860
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 6: we're going to do what's best for the team. We're

861
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 6: going to do what's best for the team this year

862
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 6: and then also long term. Everybody's got an opinion, everybody's

863
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 6: got favorites, and that's that. Hey, that goes with the territory.

864
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,959
Speaker 6: So you know, I think ultimately JG and talked about

865
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 6: this at length, like no matter what decision is, whether

866
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 6: it's draft or free agency or cutting a player or

867
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 6: who makes a practice squad. Every decision that we make,

868
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 6: it will always be what's in the best interest of

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Speaker 6: the team.

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Speaker 4: I'll give you an example. There's an article out the Athletic.

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Speaker 4: It's an extensive article and they did a lot of

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Speaker 4: research and they said the bust rate for first round

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Speaker 4: wide receivers is off the charts. And Diana Rossini was

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Speaker 4: involved in this and all this since twenty eleven. They

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Speaker 4: went through all the wide receivers right and they put

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Speaker 4: them in categories of you know, home runs or reaches

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Speaker 4: in busts and they said sixty three percent over the

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Speaker 4: last twelve to thirteen years of first round receivers reviewed

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Speaker 4: as reaches or bus. So for everything that is this

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Speaker 4: year's draft class as receiver, you have the big three

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Speaker 4: and then you have bun another dozen guys who could

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Speaker 4: be taken through the first you know, two or three rounds.

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Speaker 4: It's really loaded. Guess what. It's also way above fifty

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Speaker 4: percent that these highly drafted receivers have been buss in

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Speaker 4: recent NFL history.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, I would say go back and look at

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Speaker 1: all the positions right there. I think it would probably

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Speaker 1: probably shock you as to how many Buss there have

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Speaker 1: been in the first round period. I think wide receiver

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Speaker 1: once again, conviction conviction scouting matters, And how convicted are

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Speaker 1: you about some of these wide receivers. And when you've

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Speaker 1: got three guys that are sitting on a tier by themselves, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you may via conviction look at a guy like Marvin

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Speaker 1: Harrison Junior and say we're gonna take that guy because

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Speaker 1: he's generational, he's not like everybody else. So once again,

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, there are those guys that come in and

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Speaker 1: make a difference immediately too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt. And look, we've had this discussion, have

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Speaker 4: we not. It's not whether the Cardinals should target wide

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Speaker 4: receiver one. We agree on that, it's where they can

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Speaker 4: or should draft wide receiver one. How convicted are you

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Speaker 4: still that the Cardinals should stick and pick number four

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Speaker 4: and take one of those big three receivers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, it's it's all about what they're getting offered

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Speaker 1: to move out of there. Once again, this is the

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Speaker 1: great news for the Arizona Cardinals. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: can lose, Paul. You've got Marvin Harrison Junior, a guy

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Speaker 1: I love, and I still think he's the best receiver

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Speaker 1: in this draft. MONI may feel totally different, and that's fine.

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Speaker 1: You got him as number four. He's your consolation prize

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Speaker 1: if you don't trade out of there. And if you

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Speaker 1: do trade out of there, you get three number ones

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Speaker 1: and some change. Oh Man, Cardinals are sitting in the

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Speaker 1: catbird seat by the way.

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Speaker 4: To come full circle. Sean Payton was asked today if

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Speaker 4: he feels like he needs to emerge from the draft

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Speaker 4: with a quarterback, and he smiled and he said, well,

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Speaker 4: you'd sure say. It looks like we have to draft

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Speaker 4: a quarterback. And yet it's got to be the right fit,

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Speaker 4: the right one. So once again a lot of speculation.

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Speaker 4: Denver's loading up. Minnesota has already loaded up and made

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Speaker 4: offers the mind on ausin Ford. Here come the Giants

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Speaker 4: from six to four. If you did that, if you

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Speaker 4: were the Cardinals, you'd still be able to get one

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Speaker 4: of the big three receivers. Gotta be really interesting stuff.

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