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Speaker 1: Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis.

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Speaker 2: The story of Axel Rose and his band Guns N' Roses,

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Speaker 2: their immense success and destructiveness is so wild and intense

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Speaker 2: that two episodes were needed to properly tell this story.

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Speaker 2: If you're just getting hip to this now, I suggest

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Speaker 2: you hit pause and go back to Disgraceland Episode forty nine,

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Speaker 2: Part one of the Guns N' Roses story, where we

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Speaker 2: discuss Axel Rose's upbringing, the origins of the band, and

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Speaker 2: the influence the city of Los Angeles had on their music,

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Speaker 2: as well as the tragic events at the Donnington Monsters

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Speaker 2: of Rock festival in nineteen eighty eight. In this episode,

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Speaker 2: we dive deeper into the band's inner dynamics, Axel's state

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Speaker 2: of mind and highly antagonistic relationship with the press, and

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Speaker 2: of course, more of the band's great music. That music

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Speaker 2: I played you at the top of the show. That

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Speaker 2: wasn't great music. That was a preset loop from my

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Speaker 2: melotron called Mellow Stuffed Shirts MK.

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Speaker 3: One.

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Speaker 2: I played you that loop because I can't afford the

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Speaker 2: rights to Rush Rush by Paula Abdul, And why would

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Speaker 2: I play you that specific slice of former La Laker

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Speaker 2: Cheerleader Cheese, Could I afford it? Because that was the

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Speaker 2: number one song in America on July second, nineteen ninety one,

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Speaker 2: and that was the day Guns N' Roses took the

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Speaker 2: stage at the Riverport Theater in Saint Louis, Missouri, and

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Speaker 2: all hell broke loose. On this our fiftieth episode, Cheerleader, Cheese,

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Speaker 2: Rocket Queens Recovered Memories and Guns n' Roses.

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Speaker 4: I'm Jake Brennan.

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Speaker 3: In this this disgraceland.

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Speaker 2: Neither girl was doing it for Axel. It was hot, sure,

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Speaker 2: for a seventeen year old who couldn't get laid, maybe,

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Speaker 2: but for anyone who knew anything about sex, it was

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Speaker 2: kind of a lame. These girls sounded like they were

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Speaker 2: faking it, forcing it for the microphones, and they were

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Speaker 2: having sex with Axel on the floor, both at different times.

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Speaker 2: He was doing his best, but he was in his

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Speaker 2: head distracted too, concerned with getting a good take and

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Speaker 2: girls too. Axel didn't really know. He just wanted them

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Speaker 2: to be natural, to do what they would normally do.

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Speaker 2: But it was a lot to ask of anyone, and

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Speaker 2: studio with him while he tried recording a real life

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Speaker 2: female orgasm ministered by him for the benefit of the

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Speaker 2: Guns and Roses song Rocket Queen that his band was

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Speaker 2: recording for their debut album. Too many oh yeah babies

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Speaker 2: and forced breathiness, too many quizical squeals and ill placed moans.

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Speaker 2: Axel didn't want this to sound like a cheesy Corno

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Speaker 4: He wanted it to sound real hard like his band.

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Speaker 2: But Axel couldn't blame the girls, and they were giving

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Speaker 2: it the old Sunset try. But sex is sometimes messy.

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Speaker 2: It's physical, and given the circumstance demanding, the mics were

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Speaker 2: constantly being bumped into carefully placed by the studio engineer

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Speaker 2: to perfectly capture the sound act, so wanted every time

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Speaker 2: the mics were disturbed the engineer to come back into

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Speaker 2: the live room in the middle of the sex act

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Speaker 2: to readjust the mics nothing to see here, keep doing

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Speaker 2: i'llah yeah, I'm just gonna head back in there. The

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Speaker 2: not like the girls were oblivious to what was going on.

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Speaker 2: The candles in the dimly lit studio couldn't hide the

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Speaker 2: And Axel wasn't just going for good sex. He was

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Speaker 2: it wasn't, and he was getting pissed. He needed a

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Speaker 2: pro not a prostitute, but a professional. A girl who

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Speaker 2: To Axel, these girls were rare. Most groupies acted like

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Speaker 2: He was looking for that rare woman, the kind with

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Speaker 2: the torturous libido, The kind that thought about basically one

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Speaker 2: The kind that didn't care about your feelings or hers

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Speaker 2: Wherever she went, she exploded into the room, and her presence,

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Speaker 2: Whichever men were lucky enough to be around her. What

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Speaker 2: Only problem was she was dating one of his best

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Speaker 2: Did it matter? No, All that mattered was that she

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Speaker 2: Steven Adler was dipping his little vic firth and whatever

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Speaker 2: So when Axel laid it on her, what he wanted

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Speaker 2: Axel's inclination was correct, and the results speak for themselves.

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Speaker 2: The song Rocket Queen is one of their best recorded tracks,

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Speaker 2: and the recorded sex act in the middle does indeed

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Speaker 2: mainly involving Heroin. The band were savage junkies and they

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Speaker 2: And if Heroin didn't kill them, then AIDS would. Words

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Speaker 2: his band, in the entire Los Angeles heavy metal community,

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Speaker 2: with or without dangerous sex, the band was doing their

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Speaker 2: Same goes for heroin and Steven Adler. He was consumed

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Speaker 2: his electric nice guy Eddi personality likely kept him in

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Speaker 2: Slash in order to hold him up like a life

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Speaker 2: It's hard to see it now, just how cool is he?

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Speaker 2: Strablin was sure. You see him in the videos and

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Speaker 2: like it actually means anything real aside from ad dollars. Today,

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Speaker 2: all an influencer is is someone who can best represent

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Speaker 2: Their authenticity is heralded as an attribute, which is ironic

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Speaker 2: because digital life is so often disconnected from one's authentic life.

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Speaker 2: Social media influencers are highly selective in determining what parts

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Speaker 2: them is a massive following in voila influence. Because of

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Speaker 2: the nature of how an influencer becomes an influencer, it

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Speaker 2: is therefore impossible for an influencer to not care, which

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Speaker 2: is also ironic given that the very essence of cool

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Speaker 2: and thus more influential than Izzy Straddlin. His attitude cut

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Speaker 2: it was more his vibe than his physicality. You wanted

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Speaker 2: he got his junkie lean those stone coal secondhand threads

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Speaker 2: in that minimalist jewelry. His scraggly snarl and dyed jet

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Speaker 2: He looked like Keith Richards's mini meat, like his cool

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Speaker 2: everyone's attention. Izzy Strablan wasn't waiting for his man. He

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Speaker 2: anything but his guitar and by extension, his band sort

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Speaker 2: of but not really. He didn't really care about his bandmates,

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Speaker 2: his girlfriends, or his own well being, and as a result,

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Speaker 2: he shot a lot of heroin. He didn't care who knew,

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Speaker 2: and he didn't care about getting arrested for dealing it.

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Speaker 2: Six o'clock became six thirty. By this time, G and

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Speaker 2: The phone rang and rang, nothing, and they tried again,

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Speaker 4: I just want to.

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Speaker 4: Axel wasn't done.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm tired of too many people in this organization

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Speaker 4: Button your Lip, Baby, Button your Lip.

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back after this word word word.

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Speaker 4: What were the.

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Speaker 2: and thus sandbagging whatever slogging progress they'd made up to

430
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: that point. The album was recorded piecemeal and at times

431
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: by remote committee, the exact opposite of Appetite for Destruction,

432
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 2: which was a short, frenetic shotgun blast of a musical

433
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: statement made by five guys living the same life, dealing

434
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: with the same problems and trying to get to the

435
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: same place at the same time. That simplicity of intent

436
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: was gone. Now Axel was trying to make a grand

437
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: creative statement, while various members of his band were at

438
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: times trying to work around dysfunctions, addiction, newfound fame, and

439
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: an increasingly volatile and uncompromising lead singer Guns N' Roses'

440
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: new album or album's plural Use Your Illusion I and

441
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: Use Your Illusion two marked a new era, but the

442
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: majority of the band checked out in one way or another.

443
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: It became the Axel Rose Show, and it was a

444
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 2: glorious shit show to watch unfold the combination of insane

445
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: rock star behavior and creative excess, involving video dolphins, public

446
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 2: spatting with Warren Beatty, mountain lion pets, and stage attire

447
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: that ran the gammut from protective baseball gear to kilt

448
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: and two tight bicycle shorts. The pure rock and roll

449
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: days of the Rich Show were long gone. These days,

450
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: Guns and Roses were a worldwide phenom, the greatest rock

451
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: and roll band on the planet. Guns and Roses were

452
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: the real deal and very nearly coming apart of the Seams.

453
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: Because of it, Life at the moment for Axel and

454
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: the rest of the band was tense, but backstage at

455
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: the Riverport Amphitheater on July second, nineteen ninety one, things

456
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: were calm. While Izzy fingered his guitar slash Oblivious, fucked

457
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: with the FM dial on a transistor radio, and nursed

458
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: a bottle of Jack Daniels Duff mixed up his hundredth

459
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: vodka cranberry, his head somewhere else entirely. Matt warmed up

460
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: with a drum bad an endless triplestroke drum roll eighth

461
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: note triplets, then sixteenth note triplets that were both only

462
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: slightly out of time with Izzie's riff. Matt dropped the

463
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: beat indiscriminately to sip cold domestic from a can in

464
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 2: this being Saint Louis. The domestic was Clysdale, pissed from

465
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: the brewery of miss Anheuser and Bush and Dizzy was

466
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: nowhere in sight, off somewhere chasing Skurt taking advantage of

467
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: his new fame, and Axel was quiet sipping champagne.

468
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 4: Pre show.

469
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: Jitter's time was the only time the band could stand

470
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: each other's presence, and they waited and bonded by the

471
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: incredibly rare reality they were about to go through together,

472
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: something very few people on the planet ever experience. The

473
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: adoration of twenty thousand screaming fans who all want to

474
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 2: either be you or fuck you, the exact type of

475
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: rare experience that can bond you together and overcome even

476
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: the deepest divisions. Axel had one in a million on

477
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: his mind. It had been a while since they performed it,

478
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: and who needed the headache. Axel took this as a

479
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 2: defeat of sorts. Despite the controversy surrounding the song's lyrics,

480
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: it was still a good song. Axel toyed at the

481
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: idea of stinking it into the set that night, but

482
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: the thought of it was short lived. It was nearly showtime,

483
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: the only time of day that mattered. Gin R took

484
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: the stage to a packed and rabbit house, and by

485
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: now the band had their stage show wired tight. Axel

486
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: insisted they fly by the seat of their Spandex and

487
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: Levi's without a set list to keep it fresh, but

488
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: the band did rely on a handful of sequential songs

489
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: guaranteed to drive audiences wild Welcome to the Jungle and

490
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: then a down shift into the anthemic ballad Civil War.

491
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: After that, a drum solo from Matt so Axel could

492
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 2: suck on an oxygen mass backstage, and then a guitar

493
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 2: solo from Slash and into the theme from The Godfather

494
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: and finally into the barn Burning Rocket Queen to close

495
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: the show. The crowd recognized the song that instant the

496
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: drums picked up. They knew this was the closer, their

497
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: last moments of the show to dig in and enjoy,

498
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: to stay transported taken away to that special place, from

499
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: the realities of the real world, from their shitty jobs,

500
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: their parents, their schools. They pump their fists, dance, sang along,

501
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: and did their best to rage with their rock gods

502
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: on stage in front of them. From the blinding stage lights,

503
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: Axel could only see them swaying on mass flashback to Donnington.

504
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 4: He ripped into the first verse.

505
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: He wondered about security up front of his lax To Axel,

506
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: the security staff seemed more interested in the band than

507
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: in protecting the crowd pigs. His anger shot up through

508
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: his chest and into his throat. His breath quickened. In

509
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: the words to the second half of the verse, came

510
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: out rushed and erratic. Axel honed in on a civilian

511
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: in the first couple of rows. Was that a fan

512
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: or a member of the press snapping photos. The press

513
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: were rowing allowed a certain amount of sanctioned pictures per show,

514
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: and the band was to be photographed during set times,

515
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: at the beginning of their set and from the confines

516
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: of the camera well up in front of the stage,

517
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: only not.

518
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 4: From within the audience.

519
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: Axel boiled, fucking press, give them an inch, and they

520
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: take a goddamn mile. The press did whatever the hell

521
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: they liked, wrote whatever the hell they want it, spread

522
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: whatever fucking rumors they felt like spreading, and they had

523
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: carte blanche to fuck with you, just like Mick Jagger

524
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: and David Bowie and Warren fucking Baby, just like the

525
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: West Hollywood sheriff's deputies, and most definitely just like the

526
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: hit cops back in Lafayette. And they're all out to

527
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: get him to take advantage of them, just like his

528
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: father had done.

529
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 4: During the manic rise of his band.

530
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: Over the past couple of years, Axel Rose doubled down

531
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: on therapy and through analysis, uncovered what is believed by

532
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: some in the psychotherapy community to be called quote unquote

533
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: recovered memories. Recovered memories are exactly what they sound like.

534
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: They are memories recovered from deep in your past. Oftentimes

535
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: they are events so traumatic you've blocked them out. Other

536
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: times there are memories from your infancy or even from

537
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: the wound. In Axel's case, it was a combination of

538
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: the former two. Axel claimed that through therapy he had

539
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: discovered that his father, his real father, the father whose

540
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: name he was never to mention in his house, had

541
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: raped him as a two year old. Axel bravely went

542
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: to public with the information as he tried to sort

543
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: out his emotions in real time, and the public watched

544
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: him burn fast and loud with his band across the

545
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: world stage, and the press took note, of course, and

546
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: continued to pile on with psychotherapy. Axel felt himself making progress,

547
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: but toward what he didn't exactly know. A torrent of pain, shame,

548
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: and high pitched anger raged inside of him, stronger and

549
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: more intensely than ever before, and on stage in Saint

550
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: Louis that night, just as he was every night, he

551
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: was about to blow. As he sang out the chorus

552
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: to Rocket Queen, Axel focused on the dude in the

553
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: audience taking pictures. Shit, it was worse than he thought.

554
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: Dude wasn't taking photos, he was videotaping. Axel got three

555
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: lines deep before it all became too much to take.

556
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 4: He stopped singing and screamed into the mic, hey take that.

557
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: Take that.

558
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 3: Now, get that.

559
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 4: Guy and take that.

560
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: Axel stopped singing completely and was pointing at the dude

561
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: to the camera, imploring security to stop him. Axel could

562
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: see now dude wasn't a member of the press. He

563
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: was a biker. Nobody did anything. Axel raged at the inaction.

564
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: Here he was helpless again. The band, confused, continued to

565
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: the chorus behind it. Fuck this, Axel thought, press member, biker, whatever,

566
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: it didn't matter. When not one member of the venue's

567
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: security team moved to help him, Axel literally flew into action.

568
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: He barked into the mic, I'll take it, goddamn it,

569
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: before slamming the mic down and diving headfirst into the

570
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: audience the problem himself. The band, almost on cue, resolved

571
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: the chorus and began muddling through an instrumental version of

572
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: the second verse while their singer went at it wildly,

573
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: throwing punches in the first few rows.

574
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: Axel, unaware of who he.

575
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: Was fucking with, began manically flailing and seriously pissing off

576
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: members of the Saddle Tramps motorcycle club. Local security knew

577
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 2: where their bread was buttered and went at Axel instead

578
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: of the bikers. Axel resisted, kicking, punching at everyone in sight,

579
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: but when it became clear that security wasn't helping, Ginar's

580
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: roadies entered the fray and pulled Axel back up on stage,

581
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: but not before he landed a full fisted punch in

582
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: the grill of one of the crowd members who got

583
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: up into his face. But once he was back on stage,

584
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: Axel grabbed the mic, pissed and quickening his pace towards

585
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: the side of the stage, said well, thanks to the

586
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: lame mass security, I'm going home, and with that he

587
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: slammed the mic into the stage and stormed off. Slash

588
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: leaned into a mic and added a casual We're out

589
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: of here, and that was it. Show over. The crowd

590
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 2: was stunned, confused, No one moved, no one knew what

591
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: was going on. Gn r's roadies quickly went about breaking

592
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 2: down the band's gear, a clear signal that the show

593
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: was definitely done and the party was over. Guns and

594
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: roses weren't coming back, and beer cans began raining down

595
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 2: on the stage from the audience. The booze started, at

596
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: first the smattering and then the chorus of an angry mob.

597
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 4: The roadies were pissed, and rightly so.

598
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: They began to taunt the audience, inciting them even more drunk, angry,

599
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 2: and violent. The audience turned on itself. The saddle tramps

600
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: went alpha, erupting on.

601
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: Anyone who got in their way.

602
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: While making their exit, a naked man ran around the

603
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: floor frantically, blood pouring from a wound in his head.

604
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: The police descended to restore order and were openly challenged

605
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: by fans. Beatings commenced Button's steel toad kicks.

606
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: To the skull. A chant of fuck you pigs rose

607
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 4: up from the audience.

608
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: The crowd started ripping up the chairs and the floor,

609
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: pulling them apart and launching them to the stage, and

610
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: the cops reeled out the fire hose and attempted to

611
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: use it to beat back the crowd, but the water

612
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: pressure was so weak that the audience began moving toward

613
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: the water to cool off, and thus toward the stage.

614
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: One of the giant video screens on the side of

615
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: the stage was pulled down, and the massive sixty ton

616
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 2: sound and light rig lurched uncomfortably from side to side

617
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: as idiotic fans swung from its cables. Riverport was about

618
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: to make Donnington look like a walk in the park

619
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: until the cops broke out a tear gas like substance

620
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: and get a hold of the situation. In the end,

621
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: it was a bloody riot that Axelrose's deep well of

622
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: anger had incited sixty five people badly injured, twenty five

623
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: of them police officers, dozens arrested, and hundreds of thousands

624
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: of dollars.

625
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: In property damage.

626
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: Axel was eventually charged with four counts of assault and

627
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: one for property damage. The jury found him guilty and

628
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: the judge fined him fifty thousand dollars. It was worth

629
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 2: at Axel thought they all had it coming. Axel Roses

630
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: passed both as a severe villon and a celebrity. Is

631
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: filled with intense drama, violence, riots, beef, arrests, scandal, and

632
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: so much more. It's impossible to detail all of it

633
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: in two thirty minute podcasts without sounding like you're piling

634
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: on or being exploitative. On the other hand, the physical

635
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: abuse allegations by ex wives Aaron Everley in supermodel Stephanie

636
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: Seymour must be mentioned, even though claims by both were

637
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: denied by Axel and eventually settled out of court, and

638
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: there is no clean explanation of Axel Rose or of

639
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: Guns N' Roses. Rock Stars are messy. It's part of

640
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: what makes them great artists. All of the psychosis, that

641
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 2: inner turmoil, that anger. It often leads to great music.

642
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: You know this, We talk about it all the time.

643
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: In this case, Axel Rose is no different than James Brown's,

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Speaker 2: His behavior is hard to forgive, and like them, from

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