WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Gottlieb & Beyer Guest Hosting 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.560 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:04.440 Sports Radio. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.720 Good on it to you, Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio. iHeartRadio. 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:13.399 App Welcome in things that I didn't know I needed 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:17.239 before this weekend. Port chop on a stick and just 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:24.119 I mean pork chop but a stick. I'm in saw 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:26.760 that earlier this weekend. Hope you're getting ready for a 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:30.040 great day on the lake, at the beach, at the house, 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.280 cooking out, whatever it is. The last day of summer 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.519 is here and we got you all morning long with 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.640 Dan Byram, Doug Gottlieb of course, Jason Stewart our esteem producer, 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:43.400 and we daily do the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.000 Sports Radio, which is three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.159 We also have an hour podcast only for him, just 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.440 hype in Doug Gottlieberhere you get podcasts. You can listen 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:55.280 to the show whenever, wherever you want. Normally you can 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.240 watch sports wherever you want. Now we can watch them 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.960 on our phone. We're not as bad to like. I 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.200 remember when the Kings were in the Stanley Cup Finals 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.160 in nineteen ninety three. Guys, I remember being at Lake 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.480 Havasu and everybody came off the Lake because that was 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.360 the only way to watch the Stanley Cup Finals. Now, 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:12.920 like if you're on the Lake, if you have good 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.399 sell coverage, like you can watch wherever on your phone, 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.200 except if you're a DirecTV customer right now you can't 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:25.200 watch ESPN. DTV has what eleven point three million subscribers, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:30.320 and right now there's no Disney owned channels on DirecTV. 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.959 So they missed the SCLSU game. And then of course 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:34.959 you have the NFL game, the Monday night stuff coming 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:35.360 up this week. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.000 Yeah, there's no Good Morning America for anyone watching on 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:44.520 ABC on DirectTV. None of that not a zilch. And 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:48.600 it was the timing of it that was was really 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.480 the dirty pool portion of it, because I feel we've 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.880 had this conversation over the last year or two's at 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:59.040 Fair Jason and talking about streaming with the playoff game 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.480 with the you know, there was the Black Friday game 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.560 that was that was on Peacock, but over the last 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:06.960 couple of years in the NFL, the I have to 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.280 I have to get this streaming app to watch football? 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.880 What is going on? And the thing that I didn't 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.960 mind about that compared to what happened yesterday, Doug was 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.960 we knew that these games were gonna be on Amazon 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.440 or they were gonna be on Peacock. We had known 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.200 that we had prepared for it. I don't think any 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:30.760 direct TV customer was prepared for what happened yesterday. And 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.000 it may not be a big deal in certain parts 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.720 of the country. But imagine you're saying, Hey, I live 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.679 in Baton Rouge. We're having twenty people over LSU's home 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:43.080 opener three day weekend. We're gonna have a good time. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.239 We're gonna put the game up on the eighty five 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:49.840 inch you know TV. We're gonna celebrate this in fifteen 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.840 minutes before kickoff. After it was on all day long, 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.040 the plug was pulled and you could not watch the 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:58.280 usc LSU. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:03.480 Game DirecTV around now again, So this is a we 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:07.120 don't none of us know the details right like again 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:11.400 like we don't know the details of it. I would 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.960 tell you that that's their like their strongest leverage is 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.800 it's the old. It comes from our childhood. Do you 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:21.760 remember money for nothing? Money for nothing dire straits right, 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.440 it's the old. I want mine MDV because I used 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:29.919 to tell you in ads, call your cable provider, tell 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:34.200 them I want my MTV right, And so the thinking 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.760 here is that you get people to call and go like, hey, 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:42.240 where's my ESPN, where's my ABC? Like, that's not an 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.440 US problem, that's a Disney problem. The problem is that 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.320 you can't. There's if you're a if you're a direct 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:51.800 TV subscriber, right, if you're a Direct TV subscriber, first 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.280 of all, the change is so easy now, like I 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.680 really think that there is. It's got to be hard 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.600 to have leverage if you're a Direct TV because if 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:04.080 you're watching it home last night and that thing happens, 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:07.000 and then you're like, oh, there's no wait what fine, 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.000 I'll just subscribe to YouTube TV. If I have internet 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.000 my house, I flip it over and bang, I don't 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.520 have to call my cable company. I'm done. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:18.159 I'm out, exactly. 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.320 I mean, I mean most people had Direct TV left 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.360 Direct TV when they lost a Sunday ticket. I know. 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:24.599 I was one of them. When I found out I 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.600 could get Red Zone and Sunday ticket elsewhere deuces them 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:32.960 out and love I was a DirecTV customer for I 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.000 don't know. My dad first got it when I left 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.480 for college, because that was when you first could ditch 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:42.360 the Gigantic. My first year playing, he had the Gigantic satellite. 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.000 And then we're like, dude, you don't need that. Now 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:45.960 you can get this little tiny direct TV thing and 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:50.120 get every game. So but it is crazy that they 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:54.880 pulled the plug fifteen minutes before. Really strong argument for 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.599 either side because everyone the consumer is going to be pissed. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:03.200 Sure with everything that you laid out there, as you said, 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.200 you know what this happened to us At our studio. 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.760 I was doing the Sunday show that I do with 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.440 Carrie Rhodes and we were sitting here and even our 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:15.480 producer Ian said, what TV do you want the usc 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.680 LSU game on? So when it comes up, we'll have 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.000 it on our screen in the studio. So we told 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.799 them the screen and then as we're doing our show, 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:28.920 the graphic pops up that's still on all DirecTV channels 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.120 that you know are from Disney with the little QR 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.279 code on it, And we were caught off guard. Here 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.680 and here we are. And now the good thing for 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.400 us is we are prepared. We have smart TVs, but 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.800 for certain spots we had to go and get an 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:47.159 ESPN Plus account on the spot. So to me, that 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.240 did the exact opposite of what DirecTV wanted you to do, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.880 and did exactly what ESPN wanted you to do, was 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.160 to go to their app and purchase, whether it's a 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.440 yearly subscription or a monthly subscription, if you were able to, 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.320 so you could watch the game that was going to 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:06.320 kick off in fifteen minutes. And I just don't I 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:11.240 don't understand on DirecTV's thinking with that, because to me, 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.800 it was just absolutely counterproductive to their point you did, 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.640 ESPN came out the big winner because I'm sure they 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:21.440 racked up subscriptions from southern California and Louisiana last night 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:22.479 to watch that game. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.840 Sure, there's no no question at all, Like it's once 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:31.480 you have the streaming element of it, like you just, yeah, 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.600 the cable provider gets kind of screwed in this thing. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.599 But that's that's sadly the way this thing is gone. 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.720 Here's the other question, why would you go back, not 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:43.760 only technology wise, but have to, Like that's the hardest 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.400 part about it. Like, as someone you talked about how 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.360 long you've had direct TV, I have, I am I 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.600 am like you or I felt like I've had this 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:56.560 umbilical cord connected to MTV in cable since I was 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.520 about five years old. Yes, it is difficult for me 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:03.279 to trans position to cutting the cord and streaming and 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:07.440 the whole deal. But if I'm getting screwed by my 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:12.000 provider and done in such a blatant way, even though 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.600 I'm used to forty years or whatever, it is of that, 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:19.600 just that that bad will gesture, if you will, would 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.720 make me say, all right, well, I'll just try to 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.240 get used to the new stuff. Because they really really 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:25.000 tried to screw me. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:29.840 Yeah, no, listen, I was, you know, everybody around me, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:31.680 I know, was like, you know, just cut the cord, 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.720 cut the cord. And what pushed me to it was 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.320 last year with Sunday Ticket going to going to YouTube TV, 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.400 you know. And then in all honesty, like my first 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.000 year with it, I didn't love it because I didn't 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:44.960 think my internet was great, so I had some buffering 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.880 issues whatever. And then now you move into a home, 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:49.440 that's the first thing you do. It's like, hey, man, 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.239 I need this, I need this internet to be top notch, 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.920 top notch. Now again for direct TV, like one of 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.200 the things they've always had is, you know, their own 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.640 eighteen it's the same company, right, so you can they're 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:04.240 still gonna get you. It's still gonna win if you 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:08.440 have your AT and t Wi Fi. But it is 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.720 amazing how much we are kind of tethered to the past. 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.720 And it's it's not any I think that's a great 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:16.920 that's a great word. By the way, congrats to you. 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.240 I'm going to take that one and use it. But 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.440 it's in many ways, you know, we're tethered to the 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.920 past with college football, you know, with the NFL, with 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.880 when things are played and when things are changed, and 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.559 sometimes they come up with idea like, hey, that is better, 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.080 you know what. I kind of like this, this is easy. 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:40.320 And you know YouTube has the four box, which we 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.440 haven't had. You know, you have the with the sports 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.960 grid thing. But outside of that, like we didn't have picture. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.520 We haven't had picture and picture for years, right since 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.880 we went to these plasmas or whatever, we went away 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.840 from the picture and picture. So there's lots of different 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.520 things within this, within the kind of new world order, 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.880 if you will, which are pretty awesome. And yeah, last 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:01.520 night was a night where it had to be a 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:05.400 disaster for DirecTV because if you sit down to watch 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.800 a game, and there's just another easy way to do it. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.839 And you're like, then once you get it, you get 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.000 YouTube TV, Like, why do I need to go back? 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:15.800 That ends up diminishing your business greatly. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.920 Jason Stewart's a YouTube TV subscriber. 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:23.960 I got it in twenty eighteen as people were starting 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.920 to cut the cord. So I very much am a 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:31.400 proponent for YouTube TV and streaming. So when I saw 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.800 this story last night, I'm like, oh, okay, well, then 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.960 that is an easy fix. Just go to YouTube TV 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.440 and never have satellite again. That was kind of my 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.520 callous thought of this. I'm guessing ESPN and Disney know 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.320 this too, because how many people went to Hulu and 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.079 how many people went to the ESPN plus that you did, Dan. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:55.320 And by the way, if the sports fans don't get 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:59.800 direct TV to give in in this negotiation Bachelor Nation, 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.160 if I'm missing my Bachelor finale this week, you better 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:05.800 believe there's going to be a price to pay. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.319 It's a really good point because I thought that football 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.839 fans would be so irate that they would make this 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:17.360 emotional decision because the game wasn't aired. Where if you 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.720 cut it off right after the game, I think that 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.880 football fans could maneuver their life, like missing the news 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.080 that night isn't that big of a deal. They'll just 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.240 watch the different affiliate from that town. They can get 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:35.440 their information that way. But when you seemingly actively try 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.840 to ruin someone's night or vacation or their last rite 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.800 of summer, I think that leaves an awful taste in 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.360 your mouth. And I again Dougie said, we don't know 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.040 the exact timing of it, but to me, it is 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.240 not a coincidence that it was fifteen minutes before this 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.720 big college football game that was the only show in 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:55.600 town last night. 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.000 I'll give you the I'll give you the opposite of it. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.360 How it used to work, right. People have said this 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.160 forever about remember ESPNU. I was on the first ever 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:08.240 broadcast of ESPNU, and they used to strategically put some 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.440 of the bigger games on ESPNU so that you'd call 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.640 your cable people and go, why don't I have ESPNU? 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.480 They're like, well you got to have this other package, 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.440 Like okay, well I want it right. That's what happened 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:23.480 with with FS one, you know, And honestly that's what 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.400 happened with Peacock, you know. What Peacock was trying to 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.679 do for the last couple of years. Notre Dame Football 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.840 put a couple on there, and now you have to 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.760 have your Peacock. Peacock was really struggling ntil they got 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.720 the Olympics and then they got Big ten football, and 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.240 now they're going to have NBA basketball, et cetera, et cetera. So, 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.160 but previously it would make you want to download the 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.320 streaming service or get go to that cable provider. Whoever, 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.120 now it's like I can, I can get it elsewhere. 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:53.160 The cablerovider becomes the one that is that feels like 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:54.360 they're sol if you will. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:56.520 I think that there are probably a lot of people 0:11:56.640 --> 0:12:00.960 who have direct TV and ESPN Plus, right. I think 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.400 that that's probably fair. But what Direct TV did last 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:09.720 night alienated that good will. Again. I would I've got 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.880 streaming Peacock. I'm like, you know what, I signed up 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.960 for the DOUG as you said, for Big ten stuff, 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.200 and I've just always kept it and just been like, 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.640 we have direct TV at home. But I'm like, you know, 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.720 and I'm also just keep it. It doesn't hurt. It's nice 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.560 to have there. If there's you know, a Premier League 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.400 match or college football or whatever. And as you said 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.600 during the Olympics, it was fine. It didn't hurt me. 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:32.920 And I bet you that a lot of people would 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.200 have just said, oh, ESPN Plus, this is okay, I'll 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.040 just sign up and I'll keep my direct TV. But 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.400 when you are, when you are scorn, and you are 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.240 you are directly affected by what happened last night, just 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:48.280 leaves a bad taste in your mouth. I would not 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:52.720 go back, That's yeah, I would. I would not be happy. 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:55.960 He's Dan Byro, I'm Doug Gottlieb. It is the Dan 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.720 Patrick Show. Fox Sports. Ready during the home emergencies, every 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.840 second counts. That's why you need simply save home security 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.560 with Simply Save twenty four seven monitoring agents act within 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.640 five seconds of receiving your alarm. Visit Simply save Dan 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.600 dot com and save twenty percent today. 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We have a fantasy 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.600 football podcast called I Want Your Flexed. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:48.520 That's right, Dan. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.000 Every week we're gonna scour the waiver wire to find 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:55.360 the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup, sit starts, 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:59.000 fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to dominate 0:13:59.040 --> 0:13:59.640 the competition. 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.400 I Want Your flex with Mike Carmon and met Dan 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.600 Byer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts and wherever you 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.480 get your podcasts. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.920 And for Dan and Dannettes Stan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio. 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:20.120 There's a there's a new book out there called Out 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:24.000 of the Darkness. It's written by Ian O'Connor. Out of 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:33.000 the Darkness The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers. So and I 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:38.640 thought we'd have a a special book review for this correct. Yeah, 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.360 special book review. Dan, Dan Byer, Jay Stu, Jason Stewart 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.800 are an awesome one two combination of book reviewers. That 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.360 is that that? That's this is? Is there a proper 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:52.120 order for this? 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.400 Well, I'll tell you what you get both ends of 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:59.520 the spectrum here. Because Jason is an avid book reader. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.960 For how long have you been doing audiobooks? 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:08.800 I got upwards of twenty years my book listening habits. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.880 There's always a book on my phone. So if I'm 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.680 going on a walk hike in my car, I'm listening 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.680 to a book. A lot of people spend that time 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.600 doing podcasts or listening to music. I'm typically listening to 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.000 a book and I've been doing it for like twenty years, 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.080 so I've gone through like twenty five books a year. 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.200 And then I added the technology, this whispersing technology with 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:36.280 Amazon where I could read the digital book and then 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.840 it picks up where I left off after I'm reading 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:42.280 in my car, or once you push the on audible 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.000 dot com. So I've mastered the art of listening to books. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.680 And then recently I heard Dan Byer said, you know what, 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.440 I purchased the Aaron Rodgers book. I'm going to listen 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.600 to it, and I'm like, Dan, that is in my queue. 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.320 How about we do this. Let's listen to the book together. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:00.760 And then when we're done, we'll make content on it 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:05.400 on radio. And Doug, who is you know? Doug is 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.960 one of the best interviewers in our business. He had 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.880 Ian O'Connor. That's the sound of somebody thumbing through a book, 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:13.200 so it's very relevant. 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.560 Yes, Yes, the. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.680 Interview with Ian O'Connor, by the way, you could find 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:22.000 it on our iHeartRadio app. It's a great interview. Doug 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.520 did a great job with the end, and I figured, 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.320 since you did the author, why don't you do two readers. 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:31.640 Okay, let's welcome in two readers for our listeners. One 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.400 is Jason Stewart from Brea, California. The other one is 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.920 Dan Byer from where do you want to be called? 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:41.840 You're from Meryl, Wisconsin, Meryl, Wisconsin. From Meryl, Wisconsin. Let's 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:42.880 start with you, Dan, But. 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.920 Hold on, se I have a cute way of rhyming 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.440 this segment. And I didn't have time to send it 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.320 to Bob and Vito for this, but allow me to 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.800 do this. It's time for the Dan and j Stu 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:58.920 audio book review. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:08.520 I see the review with Jay stem hear the sales. Hi, 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.000 I'm your host. Doug Gottlieb for the Dan and Jay 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.040 stew audio book review. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:16.520 Let's start with you, Dan. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.200 Your biggest takeaway from said book? 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:24.000 My biggest takeaway, the part that I was most excited 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.840 to see or to listen to and to get to 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:31.240 was what happened with the fallout of his family? How 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:36.160 did this come about? And I was shocked to find 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:41.560 out that it just came with something that happened during 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:47.800 his relationship with Olivia Munn. And to think that this 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:52.600 is continued now there there's previous evidence of Rogers doing 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:57.520 this to other people. But to to continue this freeze 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.320 out or as they called it in the book, the 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:03.880 island stemming from something that his girlfriend at the time 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:08.600 but then ended up being ex girlfriend kind of seemed 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.520 to fuel was shocking to me. I thought there was 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.800 something that was much deeper rooted, that there was something 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.040 that had been going on for years, that his family 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.720 had wronged him or he had felt wrong by his family, 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.679 and the book did not convey that. It seemed like 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.439 it was maybe a conversation over the holidays. I believe, Jason, 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.040 if you can back me up, that something just went 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:35.600 wrong and from then on it was persona non grata 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:39.320 with Aaron Rodgers and his parents and other family members. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.200 I was shocked to hear that it was something that 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.600 was just not this huge, huge deal. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.520 And Aaron, by the way, is quoted in the book. 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.480 He does an interview with Ian O'Connor as Doug went 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.520 over with Ian. He gave Ian, I think like forty minutes. 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:54.720 So he kind of addresses some of these things. And 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.520 one of the things he does is he addresses this. 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.960 He denies that Olivia Mond was the reason. He claims 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.879 that it is more deep seated. It goes back further. 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:05.920 There are other factors, but he doesn't like to talk 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.080 about it, so we never really know that the reason. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:12.000 And to Dan's point, let me tell you what is Yeah, 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:12.639 what's the reason? 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.400 It is more deep seated. But I think the Olivia 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.000 mun thing is more the I don't know if you 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.720 want to say tipping point or is the micro to 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:29.159 the macro. I just they were exceptionally exceptionally not just 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:34.000 conservative in their religious views, but also like sort of judgmental. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:40.679 And I'll give you something that Aaron told me a 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:43.560 long time ago, which was we were, as you guys know, 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.040 we were friendly for a while and he's he told 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:47.960 me to watch the movie Gleason. Have you guys watched 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:52.879 the movie Gleason? No negative, one of the hardest docs 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.159 you're ever going to watch. I mean, just you're watching 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:59.200 a man an NFL player and it's just faculties dissipate 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.360 at the movie. Anyway, at one point in time, they 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.720 take him to like a almost like a faith healing church, 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.639 you know where you know they're gonna rid you of 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:13.040 the demons. You're gonna walk down the aisle, you know, 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.960 to the to the pastor and they're gonna they're gonna, 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:21.240 you're gonna be rid of this dreaded disease. Right, And sadly, 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.120 he does everything that they asked. 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:24.280 Him to do. 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:28.040 He says he believes and obviously there's no change to 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:31.880 als to his condition. And Aaron told me, like that's 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:37.080 how my family has thought, which is like they they're 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:42.040 that religious concern, religiously conservative, and they're not welcoming to 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.159 other thoughts. And that was the part. And then I 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.200 think the fact that his brother went on national TV 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.320 and kind of out of their family business was really 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.680 probably that that's the straw that broke the camel's back. 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:55.960 Yeah, that's addressed, and to kind of button up Dan's point. 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.679 I too thought that this was my biggest takeaway from 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:00.840 the book is that by the end of the book, 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:05.520 you get the feeling because he completely severed ties with 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.639 his immediate family. So he's got two brothers and he 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:11.480 has parents that he hasn't spoken to, and it's sad. 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.960 It's interesting and it's sad. But I got the feeling, 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:17.399 and Dan, maybe you did too. Here by the end 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:19.480 of the book, you got the feeling that, you know, 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.679 Connor who got the parents on the record for this 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.040 book many times. You almost got the sense that the 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:29.440 parents wanted to be quoted in this book to try 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.000 to establish a relationship with their son again because they 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:35.680 literally haven't been able to communicate with them. It's so sad. 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:38.280 But that was so fascinating to me. Did you get 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:39.200 that takeaway as well? 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.199