Speaker 1: Hey, they're folks.
Speaker 2: It is Friday, June fifth, and Love Island, Season eight,
Speaker 2: episode three is in the books.
Speaker 1: And I got a tongue with that.
Speaker 2: Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. This is
Speaker 2: my theme now is the kissing and the tongue. It's
Speaker 2: not kissing.
Speaker 1: It is flat out tongue Olympics.
Speaker 3: It's weird. And then they all got wet in the
Speaker 3: pool at the end and they're making out in the pool.
Speaker 3: It's like it that part of it feels incredibly performative.
Speaker 3: And look, it feels like we're watching soft porn. That
Speaker 3: is the truth in many moments, that is how it feels.
Speaker 3: I actually put my hand up last night several times
Speaker 3: when I saw what was about to start happening, because
Speaker 3: I really I don't want to watch two strangers who
Speaker 3: met forty eight hours ago with their tongues in each
Speaker 3: other's mouths and hearing that and it just continues. And
Speaker 3: the good news is we're not alone.
Speaker 1: We're not.
Speaker 2: Now you have to playing this to me a little more.
Speaker 2: Hello to you all. We'll set you up and again.
Speaker 2: Ropes we've watched every episode so far are set up.
Speaker 2: Last night, we're recording this the day after. So a
Speaker 2: lot of people are discussing this today, but are set
Speaker 2: up last night kind of unexpected. We thought we were
Speaker 2: going to go to bed, but Sabine humb hole. She
Speaker 2: wants to watch it, wants to hang out, wants us
Speaker 2: to stay up. So we make dinner, We sit down
Speaker 2: nine o'clock. So it's you, me, and a thirteen year
Speaker 2: old girl.
Speaker 3: It got a little ward show. It got a lot
Speaker 3: awkward because you know what, we've all watched the past
Speaker 3: seasons before, and yes, there's some sexual innuendo and there
Speaker 3: this there's no innuendo. It is just full face uh
Speaker 3: things that I actually feel slightly uncomfortable listening to and
Speaker 3: watching in front of anybody, truly.
Speaker 2: And we try not to and maybe we are. I
Speaker 2: was being dismissive after the first episode, was like, Ah,
Speaker 2: we're older now, we're just prude. This is what the
Speaker 2: kids like, this is what the viewer's like, This is
Speaker 2: what a younger audience like likes. But Ropes, you have
Speaker 2: been looking into this a little more and it doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like we're alone in these observations.
Speaker 3: Oh no, it's everywhere and in fact, and at least
Speaker 3: my twenty year old came into the kitchen and she
Speaker 3: was showing us TikTok after TikTok at everyone going, oh,
Speaker 3: ew stop it. Why is this so porny? Like everyone
Speaker 3: is icked out and cringe cringe, like it's just it
Speaker 3: seems so bizarre. And we were having a conversation about
Speaker 3: this because you're like, well, isn't this what like women
Speaker 3: like or young women like? And the answer is no,
Speaker 3: because I think if you think about oh yeah, what
Speaker 3: we love, morom comes or even fine a romantic novel,
Speaker 3: there's a build up, there is an anticipation. We like
Speaker 3: to wait for it, wait for it. Ah, there it is.
Speaker 3: And I wouldn't mind necessarily watching someone kiss as much
Speaker 3: if at least I'm invested in their relationship to the
Speaker 3: point where I feel like it got to a point
Speaker 3: where you're like, finally they kissed, not let's just throw
Speaker 3: tongues the second. We don't even shake hands, we don't
Speaker 3: even hug, we don't even say hello in for the kiss.
Speaker 2: Is this can I throw this with that was a possibility?
Speaker 2: Is this more a take? Does this look like more
Speaker 2: so modern day dating in that nothing serious, we meet,
Speaker 2: we're hot for each other. We'll test this out and
Speaker 2: we'll do the physical thing first the rest of it.
Speaker 2: Who kind of gives a day?
Speaker 1: I don't not.
Speaker 3: Well, that's not what I'm hearing from my daughter.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to leave some room because these
Speaker 2: folks have a very successful show. Meaning I think these
Speaker 2: people know what they're doing producers and if they're making
Speaker 2: a change, are they just trying something. It's just a
Speaker 2: new scenario. Did this happen and it's out of their
Speaker 2: hands and they'd even expect this to happen. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but it seems very intentional in this scenarios their career.
Speaker 3: It seems very producer directed. Like they are being told
Speaker 3: to kiss. They are being because this has never happened before,
Speaker 3: not like this. People are even saying, miss the days
Speaker 3: where you might get a random kiss during a game
Speaker 3: or some sort of a like, yes, you would see
Speaker 3: some kissing here and there. This is a whole new level.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're looking for the shock value. Maybe they were
Speaker 3: testing the waters the waters and get look, we are
Speaker 3: talking about it, and even though we're iked out and
Speaker 3: going ew and I'm putting my hand up, I'm talking
Speaker 3: about it. We're discussing it. Maybe they won and that's
Speaker 3: what they wanted. And I actually do believe they're reading
Speaker 3: all of these I mean, you can go wherever it's YouTube,
Speaker 3: social media, and people are all saying the same thing.
Speaker 3: I do think. I mean, this is all happening in
Speaker 3: real time, so they may make adjustments and maybe they'll
Speaker 3: back off the kissing a little.
Speaker 2: One other scenario I thought of as you were talking, Babe,
Speaker 2: do you think, and it's so early, only three episodes in,
Speaker 2: is this a really strong cast? Is there any reason
Speaker 2: they would think they don't have the dynamics in the
Speaker 2: cast to carry the show.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're already building cast members. They have a they
Speaker 3: have villains, they have crazy people, they have emotional people,
Speaker 3: they have the sweet, steady people. No, they have brilliantly
Speaker 3: cast this group and it's getting good. The drama has
Speaker 3: already begun. Like think about it. We're only episode three
Speaker 3: in and there is already drama. I already love people,
Speaker 3: I already dislike people, and I'm already rooting for people.
Speaker 2: And then not actually the people Maybe we thought we
Speaker 2: were going to like and dislike and root for when
Speaker 2: the show first started.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that.
Speaker 2: So let me let's start with this just this past episode,
Speaker 2: a couple of impressions you had, Robes from the jump.
Speaker 1: We have it playing in the background here.
Speaker 2: We watched it last night, of course, but we were
Speaker 2: recording this day after and just have it going again, Robes,
Speaker 2: and we don't going to go too deep into it,
Speaker 2: but just your immediate impression.
Speaker 3: Episode three, well, there was a lot of emotions flying,
Speaker 3: and this time it was Melanie who had her meltdown.
Speaker 3: Last episode two, Kensey had her breakdown. Melanie had her
Speaker 3: breakdown today. It's pretty soon and a lot of the
Speaker 3: reaction I had that you had, that I'm seeing everywhere
Speaker 3: else is ladies. Ladies, it's been forty eight hours. You're
Speaker 3: acting as if your heart's been broken by a man
Speaker 3: you've loved and trusted for years, not days. I'd even
Speaker 3: months maybe, but even make more sense. But we're talking
Speaker 3: about hours and these women are absolutely breaking down. So
Speaker 3: that's been very crazy to me. But then it also
Speaker 3: just shows perhaps they understand that the world is watching
Speaker 3: and their egos look are on the line. This is
Speaker 3: humiliating to be rejected privately in any way, shape or form,
Speaker 3: but now to have it being done publicly, and I
Speaker 3: would guess that most of these folks, as attractive as
Speaker 3: they are, aren't used to being rejected.
Speaker 1: That was gonna be my last thing.
Speaker 2: It was about, Yeah, everything you talk about and say, yeah,
Speaker 2: as hot as you are, getting rejected in front of
Speaker 2: millions of people on night two might not feel so good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that might factor in.
Speaker 2: We'll get into as well, Robesy, as you were watching
Speaker 2: and people were talking about, hey, ladies, it's only been
Speaker 2: two nights while you're breaking down crying, we were very
Speaker 2: much engaged in that same conversation on the couch last night,
Speaker 2: and you and Sabine had to set me straight on
Speaker 2: some things, which was hilarious.
Speaker 1: So we will get into that.
Speaker 2: Another impression from last night, Robe of the new game
Speaker 2: pushing the somebody in the pool, how'd you think that
Speaker 2: I liked it.
Speaker 3: Better than the kissing?
Speaker 2: You make a good point, you know what I thought
Speaker 2: we were going to discuss that more. You make a
Speaker 2: good point. That's it. What I did not like Robes
Speaker 2: is was overly sexualized in every question. It was disgusting
Speaker 2: even some of it. Yeah, given somebody as while your
Speaker 2: mom is driving the car.
Speaker 3: We had to hear that, and then I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 3: your mom is watching, your mom's friends are watching that.
Speaker 3: It's amazing to me that these young folks, because there
Speaker 3: a lot of them are my oldest daughters A twenty three,
Speaker 3: twenty four. My daughter knows good and hell well, but
Speaker 3: I would I wouldn't murder her even for what had happened.
Speaker 3: Maybe I would be so upset that she just told
Speaker 3: the world that, not even for my sake, but for
Speaker 3: her sake, Like, what does that say about you? And
Speaker 3: no matter where you go in life, no matter how
Speaker 3: old you are, no matter what job you have, people
Speaker 3: are gonna remember that, and that is what they're going
Speaker 3: to equate to you. I just think some of these
Speaker 3: kids aren't thinking about how these things stick and they
Speaker 3: don't go away, And I just am kind of appalled
Speaker 3: and sad for them. Because they don't have their phones,
Speaker 3: they can't even gauge reactions. All these kids are so
Speaker 3: used to probably doing anything online and immediately reading the
Speaker 3: tea leaves and seeing how people are reacting, whether it's
Speaker 3: just their social media followers. They're cut off from the world,
Speaker 3: so they might just feel really emboldened and are probably
Speaker 3: being told to be provocative by producers. Hey, just be
Speaker 3: your true, authentic self, hold nothing back. But they might
Speaker 3: not be realizing just what the reaction and how it
Speaker 3: comes off.
Speaker 1: But babe, that's what gets you on the show.
Speaker 2: What gets you opportunity, It gets you endorsements later, it
Speaker 2: gets you followers later, it gets you to be an
Speaker 2: influencer later, it gets you.
Speaker 1: All this stuff.
Speaker 3: Right, Let's not forget Kim Kardashian is who she is
Speaker 3: because of a sex tape, damn. And that's probably not
Speaker 3: lost on any of them, but.
Speaker 2: Robes, at this point, don't you have to remind people
Speaker 2: of that Kim Kardashian is. I am so impressed with
Speaker 2: this woman beyond I just am. But yes, she became
Speaker 2: famous known blew up if you will, because she was
Speaker 2: the best friend of a socialite and then she had
Speaker 2: a sex video that.
Speaker 1: Went but violent on the internet.
Speaker 3: Yep, and that's how she That's all it takes.
Speaker 1: Isn't that something?
Speaker 2: But yes, okay, So in this scenario, to your point, Robes,
Speaker 2: the other thing I want to ask you about, because
Speaker 2: we this was one of the most charming parts of
Speaker 2: this show over the years, the breakfast that the guy
Speaker 2: make for the gals, and it was an organic thing
Speaker 2: that has been cute.
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: Force now it almost feels like they're they're trying really
Speaker 3: hard to be like, to look like good partners. I
Speaker 3: don't know. It doesn't feel like something that they want
Speaker 3: to do, a duty and almost a weird competition. Then
Speaker 3: there are all these expectations from the girls and Kenzie
Speaker 3: when bananas because.
Speaker 1: He arranged the bananas of the heart something he put.
Speaker 3: The eggs in the shape of a heart, Sean did.
Speaker 3: But I was like, girl, don't be so enthusiastic.
Speaker 2: Excited, right, Yeah, I thought it was too much. It
Speaker 2: was a lot trying to push back and the other
Speaker 2: thing we will get into. Let me start. Then this
Speaker 2: was the other thing I want to ask you about. Impressions.
Speaker 2: Most of the conversation last night, and I was sitting
Speaker 2: between you and the bean on the couch. You're all
Speaker 2: going back and forth about the bombshell Cata. Now we
Speaker 2: don't know this young lady. We're not making any judgment
Speaker 2: about this young lady and who she is, and so
Speaker 2: don't want to be critical, but you all recognize something
Speaker 2: that for a guy I don't immediately see. And you
Speaker 2: all were exchanging notes even at your age and she's
Speaker 2: in the seventh grade.
Speaker 3: You all recognize your oh, because no matter what, when
Speaker 3: you're a woman, you're always in the seventh grade, and
Speaker 3: so those dynamics stay with you for the rest of
Speaker 3: your life. And so yes, I hate to stereotype. And
Speaker 3: again I don't know her, but she was or is
Speaker 3: and appears to be that girl we all know who
Speaker 3: knows she's hot and likes to just hang out with
Speaker 3: the guys and be the cool, hot girl who doesn't
Speaker 3: necessarily vibe with other girls. And we all know that girl,
Speaker 3: and she is absolutely that girl. And so you get
Speaker 3: an immediate visceral reaction because we all have had that experience,
Speaker 3: whether you're in seventh grade likes to be in or
Speaker 3: you're a grown ass woman like me.
Speaker 1: All were killing me. And I didn't say.
Speaker 2: I guess after a little while, and there was a
Speaker 2: moment where she was Kaita was the girls we're talking.
Speaker 2: She was the only one overwhellled the guys playing volleyball
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 3: She's the cool, sporty, hot thing in her barely there
Speaker 3: bikini with a perfect body and a perfect face. The
Speaker 3: girl is stunning. So I guess the point is, you
Speaker 3: don't you don't even have to do that other stuff.
Speaker 3: But notice she was fishing for compliments the entire the
Speaker 3: last two episodes. If you pay attention, she's constantly fishing
Speaker 3: for compliments, and I actually want to give her like
Speaker 3: I want to actually say, you know what, that's tough
Speaker 3: because she is so gorgeous. That is her value in
Speaker 3: her head, and she's constantly needing to be affirmed.
Speaker 1: Was twenty three and from? Is she she? New Hampshire? Yes?
Speaker 3: How did you forget? That was my favorite line of
Speaker 3: the whole night. I don't know why Kada feels it's
Speaker 3: necessary when she tells people where she's from, the next
Speaker 3: thing she says is, I'm from New Hampshire. Do you
Speaker 3: know where that is? I'm sorry, maybe some people don't.
Speaker 3: Where is that coming from? Can you can you imagine
Speaker 3: me going to say, hey, I'm from Georgia. Do you
Speaker 3: know where that is? Well?
Speaker 2: It's different. It's the smallest day. People don't spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time up in this area the country. Maybe
Speaker 2: the people you're actually trying to defend that.
Speaker 3: That is the strangest, my weirdest response to anything. What
Speaker 3: do you mean do I know where New Hampshire is?
Speaker 2: You know she might have in her life and experience
Speaker 2: when she tells me on from New Hampshire, like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: Even know where.
Speaker 3: Let people ask, then I bet they won't because even
Speaker 3: like there are people like I'm from New Jersey. Yeah
Speaker 3: I know where New Hampshire is. Like what I just thought?
Speaker 3: She said it multiple times. That's part of the fun,
Speaker 3: the riveting conversations.
Speaker 2: Hey, yes, some of the compost last night. They're just
Speaker 2: getting to know each other. It will get better, right,
Speaker 2: What do you like.
Speaker 3: On your pizza?
Speaker 1: It was a pepperoni conversation. Your dog is code of mine?
Speaker 1: Is kaya?
Speaker 3: No way get out? Oh my god, that's almost the same.
Speaker 3: We're like, we're destined to be together. Oh the universe
Speaker 3: is speaking.
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, stop, it's a dating show. It's been three days.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get to know each other. It's gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: We have to pick up with what's her name eyes.
Speaker 1: Kensey from Ken from NNES.
Speaker 2: I can't forget that, Okay, Kensey saw is she was
Speaker 2: on last night?
Speaker 1: I have to ask no, no, should I wait and ask
Speaker 1: that later? She was?
Speaker 2: She's still robes upset. She's still upset that she was rejected. Initially,
Speaker 2: you and I got back and back and forth.
Speaker 1: We won't do that again. He was honest with her.
Speaker 3: That let's keep that conversation where it was.
Speaker 2: But what do you think of this idea? Keinsey refusing
Speaker 2: to talk to Zach Now, no, no, no, no. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's the worst thing in the world. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's the right thing. I think it's an immature
Speaker 2: thing and it's something that a hurt person will do.
Speaker 2: But how long does she keep that up? Because it
Speaker 2: seemed like something she needs is to reject him back,
Speaker 2: if you will, He's asked to talk to hers twice.
Speaker 3: It made her feel powerful because she felt powerless. But
Speaker 3: it's very transparent and it's not a good look for her.
Speaker 3: So I hope that she can recognize that, because I
Speaker 3: know in the moment it felt so good, but it
Speaker 3: looked so small, and she would have looked so much
Speaker 3: more confident and so much you know, and I get
Speaker 3: it it's hard to do. But when you actually do
Speaker 3: believe in yourself and you actually don't care what she
Speaker 3: keeps claiming both of those things, she would have spoken
Speaker 3: to him. Yeah, So what she says isn't what she does.
Speaker 2: I hate it's going that way for her. I just
Speaker 2: wish she Yeah, it'll happen again. It's three days. People
Speaker 2: get hurt.
Speaker 1: And I keep.
Speaker 2: Adding this to it when you and Sabine were telling
Speaker 2: me about some of these strong reactions maybe from some
Speaker 2: of the women I wanted to and I still do think,
Speaker 2: but what level do you assign? Like a lot of
Speaker 2: this is a pressure cooker of time, scrutiny, cameras, and frankly,
Speaker 2: desperation to stay on the show, like you're trying. I
Speaker 2: got a guy in front of me and oh crap,
Speaker 2: if I don't make this work, I might get kicked
Speaker 2: off the show. How much of that do you think
Speaker 2: is playing it?
Speaker 3: It's a huge part of it. And there's one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars at stake, too, so let's not forget that
Speaker 3: there is a real money out there for these folks.
Speaker 3: But really, I think, yes, of course the money is
Speaker 3: on folks' minds, but mostly it's your repututation. It's how
Speaker 3: people view you. You're desperately fighting for your reputation. You're
Speaker 3: desperately fighting for you to be seen the way you
Speaker 3: want to be seen, for people to consider you or
Speaker 3: regard you if they want to be the hot one.
Speaker 3: Everyone wants to be wanted, so suddenly if you're the
Speaker 3: one on the show who seems to be the one
Speaker 3: who's rejected, that's humiliating. And yes, it's driving a lot
Speaker 3: of this emotion because how you view yourself, how you
Speaker 3: value yourself, is literally up for interpretation and people are
Speaker 3: voting and judging on what they think of you. That's
Speaker 3: an incredibly difficult position to be in at that young
Speaker 3: of an age, when it is, let's be honest, a
Speaker 3: lot about looks right now.
Speaker 1: Well, stay with us, folks. When we come back.
Speaker 2: We will explain what's so far I think has been
Speaker 2: the best learning moment, the most positive moment, encouraging moment,
Speaker 2: and heartwarming moment that I've seen so far on the show. Also,
Speaker 2: we'll try to explain to you our conversation and why
Speaker 2: Sabine and roboch we're getting onto me last night for
Speaker 2: not understanding why Melanie was crying, and we'll try to
Speaker 2: figure out what the hell sinceres Fish's story was about stare.
Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ.
Speaker 3: We are talking about episode three, Love Island USA, Season eight.
Speaker 3: It's a sizzler already, and it's got us watching and
Speaker 3: it's keeping all of us talking, and that means the
Speaker 3: show is doing something right now. You just told me
Speaker 3: remind me of everything I teased. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 3: know if I can, because you went through a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff. But I do think one of the really
Speaker 3: interesting conversations was the one we were having, Sabina and
Speaker 3: I were having with you because we were trying to
Speaker 3: explain to you why Melanie was so emotional, why she
Speaker 3: was crying, why she got so upset when she heard
Speaker 3: her guy Sincere maybe not seeming so much like he
Speaker 3: basically in this challenge admitted that he had texted other
Speaker 3: women while he was seeing one girl, and this all
Speaker 3: took place on the same day where he pulled aside
Speaker 3: the big hotty Kita, the bombshell who kind of looks
Speaker 3: like Melanie my.
Speaker 1: Skin, long hair, same builds, kind of a thing, okay.
Speaker 3: Correct, And so she felt like he was sneaky. So
Speaker 3: this is by pulling her aside, so she felt threatened.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize, you know what, you helped me with
Speaker 2: something there. I didn't realize she was already hot when
Speaker 2: that game started. That makes sense already.
Speaker 3: Hot because he had pulled aside the I mean someone
Speaker 3: could say, I don't want to the hotter version of her.
Speaker 3: So she feels threatened, like you see a girl who like, Wow,
Speaker 3: she looks like me, but I think she might even
Speaker 3: be prettier than me. So now you're already feeling insecure.
Speaker 3: And then in this game he admits that he kind
Speaker 3: of is a player. So now she is so upset,
Speaker 3: and clearly there's history there for her. Clearly this girl
Speaker 3: has been hurt by someone before.
Speaker 1: Was she crying before the game?
Speaker 2: The tears came before the game she had seen okay,
Speaker 2: and most folks listen to us now I've seen the show.
Speaker 2: But the guy she's linked up with, they call him
Speaker 2: pull a side where they call him pull you.
Speaker 1: Can I pull you to talk? This thing? They keeps saying,
Speaker 1: can I pull you for a second?
Speaker 2: Kind of So they go and he pulls Kaita the
Speaker 2: new girl, and just go had sits and has a
Speaker 2: conversation with her. He never mentions this to the woman
Speaker 2: he's in a couple with. Melanie didn't give her heads
Speaker 2: up about it, and he didn't tell her about it afterwards.
Speaker 3: Necessarily I heard it from someone else.
Speaker 2: I had to hear from somebody else. So now she's hot.
Speaker 2: So after this robe, she's in her confessionals and interviews,
Speaker 2: tears are coming. Well, she's talking to the other.
Speaker 1: Girl as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's basically this always happens to me. People get
Speaker 3: sick of me and they move on.
Speaker 1: It was heartbreaking to hear it. I'll be honest, Robes.
Speaker 2: She went into a dark place of just one guy
Speaker 2: that she's known for forty eight hours speaking to another
Speaker 2: woman for ten minutes, and she started doubting her self
Speaker 2: worth going back through her dating history.
Speaker 3: You know what was so eye opening. I think a
Speaker 3: lot of people and a lot of women will look
Speaker 3: at this young lady Melanie and say, my god, this
Speaker 3: woman is stunning Dominican, light skinned, black woman, like absolutely
Speaker 3: picture perfect. How could she be so insecure? How could
Speaker 3: she have all of these feelings of self doubt and worthlessness?
Speaker 3: And it all came out with one guy who she
Speaker 3: met twenty four hours later, who told her he still
Speaker 3: likes her and wants to be in a relationship with her,
Speaker 3: but wanted to just do what you're there to do,
Speaker 3: which is to test the waters and see who the
Speaker 3: best fit is for you that that sent her into
Speaker 3: such a spiral. That is how fragile. A lot of
Speaker 3: women like I understand that we're all fragile, let's be honest,
Speaker 3: but I think it's shocking to maybe some folks who
Speaker 3: see someone like her and say, how could you be
Speaker 3: that fragile?
Speaker 1: And I kept going back and forth with you all about.
Speaker 2: I am shocked because it's happening with the guy she
Speaker 2: met twenty four hours ago.
Speaker 3: It still stings, especially if she had the feels and
Speaker 3: she thought, ooh, he likes me and all of a
Speaker 3: sudden to be basically fond over and then seemingly rejected.
Speaker 3: It's like that yo yo thing, and it's shocking to
Speaker 3: the system.
Speaker 1: I will say again, I was shocked over the twenty
Speaker 1: four hour part.
Speaker 3: Are a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: She's two months a month, she's been dating a guy
Speaker 2: for a little while, it's going somewhere, and he just
Speaker 2: shows an interest in someone. It was twenty four hours
Speaker 2: and we were on a show with a whole per
Speaker 2: What I.
Speaker 1: Was just forced to explore.
Speaker 3: What we were trying to say is like, look, but
Speaker 3: in that forty eight hours, I guess where she spent
Speaker 3: two nights with him, cuddling up with him, making out
Speaker 3: with him, linking arms with him, they were coupled up.
Speaker 3: There's everyone's acting like married couples. So even though I
Speaker 3: know it's only been forty eight hours, there was this.
Speaker 3: She had this, She had this version of it. She
Speaker 3: had this in her head what it was going to
Speaker 3: look like, and she was feeling.
Speaker 1: Something and in the committed relationship.
Speaker 3: She really did. That is how she acted. And even
Speaker 3: even Kenzie, we were shocked by twenty four hours and
Speaker 3: she was just like spiraling to the point where, yes,
Speaker 3: we discussed, she won't. She's refusing to speak to him.
Speaker 3: She's so angry with him. How are you mad at
Speaker 3: a guy who you weren't even in a committed relationship with?
Speaker 3: Like that is kind offusing? Who told you from the
Speaker 3: onset you don't look like anyone I've dated and didn't
Speaker 3: necessarily give you any vibes it said otherwise? But she
Speaker 3: was destroyed And then now it's interesting Melanie's crying, but
Speaker 3: maybe she has good reason to if she really did
Speaker 3: have feelings for Sincere, because he explained to all of
Speaker 3: us who were watching, how it's okay to have two
Speaker 3: different girls because they're both beautiful. You don't have to
Speaker 3: throw one out. Nope, you want to explain the fish
Speaker 3: analogy he made.
Speaker 2: It was difficult too. We watched it several times. We
Speaker 2: were trying to pull the sound bity that we could
Speaker 2: play for you all, and we didn't want to get
Speaker 2: sued by Peacock. So we're not there yet.
Speaker 1: He's sitting in his.
Speaker 2: Confessional after all this has gone on, and he said,
Speaker 2: it's like when you go fishing, catch one fish, you
Speaker 2: like that fish? Do you take that fish you put
Speaker 2: in the ice box? Do you keep fishing? Then you
Speaker 2: get another fish, you like that fish too? And now
Speaker 2: you got his words, two fishes. You don't have to
Speaker 2: throw one back. Now you got these two beautiful fish.
Speaker 1: That was what he said. I know I'm a kind
Speaker 1: of paraphrasing, but.
Speaker 3: That was close to really close, I think, almost verbatim actually,
Speaker 3: especially with the fishes, beautiful fishes. I wonder, because here's
Speaker 3: the other thing. None of these contestants can see or
Speaker 3: hear what the other ones are saying in these two
Speaker 3: camera confessionals. Right, so how's Melanie and honestly, how is
Speaker 3: katea gonna feel about that? When they see that one
Speaker 3: played back.
Speaker 1: It's two months away before they ever get to see
Speaker 1: this show.
Speaker 3: Baby, man, I gotta tell you, I hear a guy
Speaker 3: comparing me to a beautiful fish that he just caught.
Speaker 3: He's gonna keep me in a cooler cause why not
Speaker 3: come on show that far? I mean, you gotta think
Speaker 3: about these analogies and what they might actually feel to
Speaker 3: receive when they're being said about you. A little insight
Speaker 3: into how he regards women.
Speaker 2: Some might here is the other thing about him. It's
Speaker 2: been a part of the promotion they had with him.
Speaker 2: He's a trackster, ran track at Penn State Texas Tech.
Speaker 2: Was it in one of the school Florida gropes He
Speaker 2: talked about running, chasing, I like to chase, I like
Speaker 2: to catch.
Speaker 3: This is that sounds like? Yes, women are objects and
Speaker 3: sports and that Look, it's not if he keeps going
Speaker 3: down that track, the public opinion for him ain't going
Speaker 3: to be so high. You know who. I've seen the
Speaker 3: couple that people are rooting for the most on Casey
Speaker 3: Yep and Anaya. Everyone loves them together. People are saying
Speaker 3: I'm here for them, I'm here for them. People get
Speaker 3: their favorites, and look, that's really important. Because as we
Speaker 3: get further into the show, you as the viewer, get
Speaker 3: to vote for your favorite couple, and that ultimately determines
Speaker 3: who stays in the villa and who wins that money.
Speaker 1: I'm digging Casey, and.
Speaker 3: They were the ones who got thrown together, kind of
Speaker 3: like Nick and Landria from last season. Funny enough, they
Speaker 3: didn't even necessarily choose each other. They kind of got
Speaker 3: forced to be with one another based on circumstances. I mean,
Speaker 3: Casey is the dude who opened the door and nobody
Speaker 3: was standing there, and she went in and tried to
Speaker 3: team up and see who do you pick? And he
Speaker 3: got rejected, So the two of them kind of had
Speaker 3: to go together. And I love that. Now they're digging
Speaker 3: one another.
Speaker 2: The same with the other who I cannot believe is
Speaker 2: growing us Bryce, Bryce, the brother from southern California, the
Speaker 2: model and surfer boy looking to kato' Kaitlyn look alike
Speaker 2: to me, But he's growing on me because he's his
Speaker 2: authentic goofy self kind of. And I don't mind.
Speaker 3: She's not like this hot model who can't be bothered.
Speaker 3: He's actually silly.
Speaker 1: He is, and he's growing on me right now.
Speaker 2: With the moment Robes and I think we talked about
Speaker 2: it a little bit, but this was I appreciate it
Speaker 2: because it flew in the face of the other scenario
Speaker 2: that I did not like with Zach and Kinsey. He said,
Speaker 2: you're not my type er, I don't usually go for
Speaker 2: somebody like you, and she doesn't want to talk to
Speaker 2: him ever at all. I can't have a conversation. The
Speaker 2: opposite happened, and I appreciated both of these people, Robes
Speaker 2: Bea and Sean the police officer, and the perilym.
Speaker 1: Bea Trice Bea Trice.
Speaker 3: So she.
Speaker 2: Rejected him essentially at the doors first episode, correct so
Speaker 2: and went away. She hasn't been able to see him
Speaker 2: again until this episode, and even leading up to it,
Speaker 2: she was like, I really want to talk to him
Speaker 2: so I can explain to him why she was bothered
Speaker 2: that he might be upset and not understand why she
Speaker 2: didn't choose him.
Speaker 1: Robes.
Speaker 2: They end up getting together for a conversation. I'm like, Wow,
Speaker 2: this is what grown folks should do.
Speaker 3: Act And you know what, because yes, he was hurt
Speaker 3: and he admitted that it was painful because they both
Speaker 3: looked at that green and red dot differently. She looked
Speaker 3: at it as I'd like to keep my options open.
Speaker 3: He looked at it as closing the door on their relationship.
Speaker 3: So once they had a conversation, they may not have
Speaker 3: agreed to the exact same description of what they each chose,
Speaker 3: but at least there was respect. And he said, look,
Speaker 3: I understand you're an authentic person. You're a nice person,
Speaker 3: and I appreciate you and I both saw things differently.
Speaker 3: It was a rare moment, but it was a I mean, look,
Speaker 3: if everyone acted like that, the show would be boring.
Speaker 3: So as nice as it was to see, let's be honest,
Speaker 3: it's cool to see that there are some cooler heads
Speaker 3: that can prevail and perhaps they could be leaders within
Speaker 3: the group that others can look to and learn from.
Speaker 3: But you got to at least appreciate the fact that
Speaker 3: not everybody's in that elevated, mature space. And that's what
Speaker 3: makes for a good show.
Speaker 2: Again, we say it robes and we watched the shows
Speaker 2: every single episode. There's a relationship lesson in there that
Speaker 2: you can take with you. And this was a big
Speaker 2: one and a highlight and mature and where somebody was
Speaker 2: hurt and had every reason to be mad. He's reacting
Speaker 2: totally differently than Kinsey reacted to.
Speaker 1: Something like that.
Speaker 2: I just I thought that was a very nice moment,
Speaker 2: and it made me feel better about both of them,
Speaker 2: who weren't my favorites when we started on the first
Speaker 2: two episodes. I look at that and go out, I
Speaker 2: respect that, So I agree favor.
Speaker 3: And you can choose to take things personally, or you
Speaker 3: can recognize that, as is true in almost all cases
Speaker 3: in life, it's really never about you, it's about them.
Speaker 3: And I think you were able to see both Sean
Speaker 3: and Beatrice be able to acknowledge that, and it was cool.
Speaker 3: That's not something you see in a lot of twenty somethings. So, yes,
Speaker 3: we will continue watching, and if you're listening, we're assuming
Speaker 3: you will too. So, hey, we'll have to be watching
Speaker 3: episode four, which airs tonight tomorrow because duh, the Knicks
Speaker 3: are playing.
Speaker 2: Yes, so we can't exactly give you a time, and
Speaker 2: we we'll have the next update, but.
Speaker 3: It will be tomorrow after we watch tomorrow. But in
Speaker 3: the meantime, for any of you choosing Love Island over
Speaker 3: Game three of the Game two of the NBA Finals. Yes,
Speaker 3: I've already jumped ahead, my bad. We'll keep you updated
Speaker 3: and we'll all be watching together. And with that everyone,
Speaker 3: thanks for listening to us. As always, I'm Aymi Roboch
Speaker 3: alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.