WEBVTT - Love Island (EP 3): Melanie Melts Down, Kayda May Be A Problem 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:02.719 Hey, they're folks. 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:06.160 It is Friday, June fifth, and Love Island, Season eight, 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:08.760 episode three is in the books. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:13.280 And I got a tongue with that. 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:15.680 Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. This is 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:17.680 my theme now is the kissing and the tongue. It's 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:18.160 not kissing. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.520 It is flat out tongue Olympics. 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:24.480 It's weird. And then they all got wet in the 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.720 pool at the end and they're making out in the pool. 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.800 It's like it that part of it feels incredibly performative. 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:35.879 And look, it feels like we're watching soft porn. That 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.760 is the truth in many moments, that is how it feels. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.680 I actually put my hand up last night several times 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.640 when I saw what was about to start happening, because 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.560 I really I don't want to watch two strangers who 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.639 met forty eight hours ago with their tongues in each 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:56.280 other's mouths and hearing that and it just continues. And 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:58.000 the good news is we're not alone. 0:00:58.800 --> 0:00:59.240 We're not. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.160 Now you have to playing this to me a little more. 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.399 Hello to you all. We'll set you up and again. 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.440 Ropes we've watched every episode so far are set up. 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.560 Last night, we're recording this the day after. So a 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:11.720 lot of people are discussing this today, but are set 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.039 up last night kind of unexpected. We thought we were 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.319 going to go to bed, but Sabine humb hole. She 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.640 wants to watch it, wants to hang out, wants us 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.800 to stay up. So we make dinner, We sit down 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.640 nine o'clock. So it's you, me, and a thirteen year 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:25.119 old girl. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.280 It got a little ward show. It got a lot 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.440 awkward because you know what, we've all watched the past 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.400 seasons before, and yes, there's some sexual innuendo and there 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:39.600 this there's no innuendo. It is just full face uh 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:44.800 things that I actually feel slightly uncomfortable listening to and 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:47.880 watching in front of anybody, truly. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.520 And we try not to and maybe we are. I 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.160 was being dismissive after the first episode, was like, Ah, 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.720 we're older now, we're just prude. This is what the 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.360 kids like, this is what the viewer's like, This is 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.240 what a younger audience like likes. But Ropes, you have 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.680 been looking into this a little more and it doesn't 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.080 seem like we're alone in these observations. 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:09.320 Oh no, it's everywhere and in fact, and at least 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.400 my twenty year old came into the kitchen and she 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:15.880 was showing us TikTok after TikTok at everyone going, oh, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:20.560 ew stop it. Why is this so porny? Like everyone 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:26.200 is icked out and cringe cringe, like it's just it 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.240 seems so bizarre. And we were having a conversation about 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.400 this because you're like, well, isn't this what like women 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.960 like or young women like? And the answer is no, 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.840 because I think if you think about oh yeah, what 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:43.280 we love, morom comes or even fine a romantic novel, 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:48.520 there's a build up, there is an anticipation. We like 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.240 to wait for it, wait for it. Ah, there it is. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:56.000 And I wouldn't mind necessarily watching someone kiss as much 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.880 if at least I'm invested in their relationship to the 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.760 point where I feel like it got to a point 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:05.679 where you're like, finally they kissed, not let's just throw 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.600 tongues the second. We don't even shake hands, we don't 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:13.360 even hug, we don't even say hello in for the kiss. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.800 Is this can I throw this with that was a possibility? 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:20.160 Is this more a take? Does this look like more 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:26.639 so modern day dating in that nothing serious, we meet, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.680 we're hot for each other. We'll test this out and 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:31.760 we'll do the physical thing first the rest of it. 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:32.760 Who kind of gives a day? 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:33.320 I don't not. 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.520 Well, that's not what I'm hearing from my daughter. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.560 I mean, I'm trying to leave some room because these 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.720 folks have a very successful show. Meaning I think these 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.720 people know what they're doing producers and if they're making 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.960 a change, are they just trying something. It's just a 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:47.840 new scenario. Did this happen and it's out of their 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.520 hands and they'd even expect this to happen. I don't know, 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.000 but it seems very intentional in this scenarios their career. 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.760 It seems very producer directed. Like they are being told 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.280 to kiss. They are being because this has never happened before, 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.520 not like this. People are even saying, miss the days 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.160 where you might get a random kiss during a game 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.280 or some sort of a like, yes, you would see 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.000 some kissing here and there. This is a whole new level. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.200 Maybe they're looking for the shock value. Maybe they were 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.120 testing the waters the waters and get look, we are 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.000 talking about it, and even though we're iked out and 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.559 going ew and I'm putting my hand up, I'm talking 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.000 about it. We're discussing it. Maybe they won and that's 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.080 what they wanted. And I actually do believe they're reading 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.160 all of these I mean, you can go wherever it's YouTube, 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:35.520 social media, and people are all saying the same thing. 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.479 I do think. I mean, this is all happening in 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.200 real time, so they may make adjustments and maybe they'll 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:42.359 back off the kissing a little. 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.479 One other scenario I thought of as you were talking, Babe, 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.200 do you think, and it's so early, only three episodes in, 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.440 is this a really strong cast? Is there any reason 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:55.880 they would think they don't have the dynamics in the 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:57.760 cast to carry the show. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.840 Oh, they're already building cast members. They have a they 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:05.040 have villains, they have crazy people, they have emotional people, 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:09.520 they have the sweet, steady people. No, they have brilliantly 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:13.280 cast this group and it's getting good. The drama has 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.080 already begun. Like think about it. We're only episode three 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.719 in and there is already drama. I already love people, 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:24.000 I already dislike people, and I'm already rooting for people. 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:25.800 And then not actually the people Maybe we thought we 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.960 were going to like and dislike and root for when 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:29.960 the show first started. 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:30.599 We'll get into that. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.960 So let me let's start with this just this past episode, 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.719 a couple of impressions you had, Robes from the jump. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:39.560 We have it playing in the background here. 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.280 We watched it last night, of course, but we were 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.640 recording this day after and just have it going again, Robes, 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.080 and we don't going to go too deep into it, 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.600 but just your immediate impression. 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.600 Episode three, well, there was a lot of emotions flying, 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.440 and this time it was Melanie who had her meltdown. 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:02.960 Last episode two, Kensey had her breakdown. Melanie had her 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.000 breakdown today. It's pretty soon and a lot of the 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.799 reaction I had that you had, that I'm seeing everywhere 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:13.400 else is ladies. Ladies, it's been forty eight hours. You're 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.760 acting as if your heart's been broken by a man 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:20.360 you've loved and trusted for years, not days. I'd even 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.599 months maybe, but even make more sense. But we're talking 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.839 about hours and these women are absolutely breaking down. So 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.400 that's been very crazy to me. But then it also 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:36.279 just shows perhaps they understand that the world is watching 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.360 and their egos look are on the line. This is 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:43.400 humiliating to be rejected privately in any way, shape or form, 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:46.560 but now to have it being done publicly, and I 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.840 would guess that most of these folks, as attractive as 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.080 they are, aren't used to being rejected. 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.240 That was gonna be my last thing. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.039 It was about, Yeah, everything you talk about and say, yeah, 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.240 as hot as you are, getting rejected in front of 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:03.360 millions of people on night two might not feel so good. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:04.520 So yeah, that might factor in. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.640 We'll get into as well, Robesy, as you were watching 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.840 and people were talking about, hey, ladies, it's only been 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.840 two nights while you're breaking down crying, we were very 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.880 much engaged in that same conversation on the couch last night, 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.040 and you and Sabine had to set me straight on 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:19.480 some things, which was hilarious. 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:20.440 So we will get into that. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.640 Another impression from last night, Robe of the new game 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.760 pushing the somebody in the pool, how'd you think that 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:25.240 I liked it. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:26.040 Better than the kissing? 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.760 You make a good point, you know what I thought 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:31.200 we were going to discuss that more. You make a 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.679 good point. That's it. What I did not like Robes 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:40.000 is was overly sexualized in every question. It was disgusting 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:44.200 even some of it. Yeah, given somebody as while your 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:45.560 mom is driving the car. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.520 We had to hear that, and then I'm thinking to myself, 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:54.680 your mom is watching, your mom's friends are watching that. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.000 It's amazing to me that these young folks, because there 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.920 a lot of them are my oldest daughters A twenty three, 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:05.520 twenty four. My daughter knows good and hell well, but 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.800 I would I wouldn't murder her even for what had happened. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:12.200 Maybe I would be so upset that she just told 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.880 the world that, not even for my sake, but for 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.600 her sake, Like, what does that say about you? And 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.920 no matter where you go in life, no matter how 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.600 old you are, no matter what job you have, people 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.560 are gonna remember that, and that is what they're going 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.760 to equate to you. I just think some of these 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:33.319 kids aren't thinking about how these things stick and they 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.559 don't go away, And I just am kind of appalled 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.680 and sad for them. Because they don't have their phones, 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.320 they can't even gauge reactions. All these kids are so 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:46.040 used to probably doing anything online and immediately reading the 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.360 tea leaves and seeing how people are reacting, whether it's 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.840 just their social media followers. They're cut off from the world, 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:55.359 so they might just feel really emboldened and are probably 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:59.600 being told to be provocative by producers. Hey, just be 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.680 your true, authentic self, hold nothing back. But they might 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.280 not be realizing just what the reaction and how it 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:06.800 comes off. 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:08.760 But babe, that's what gets you on the show. 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.480 What gets you opportunity, It gets you endorsements later, it 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.320 gets you followers later, it gets you to be an 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:14.480 influencer later, it gets you. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:15.160 All this stuff. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.800 Right, Let's not forget Kim Kardashian is who she is 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:21.440 because of a sex tape, damn. And that's probably not 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.920 lost on any of them, but. 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.319 Robes, at this point, don't you have to remind people 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.720 of that Kim Kardashian is. I am so impressed with 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:34.880 this woman beyond I just am. But yes, she became 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:39.120 famous known blew up if you will, because she was 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.520 the best friend of a socialite and then she had 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:43.960 a sex video that. 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.560 Went but violent on the internet. 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.880 Yep, and that's how she That's all it takes. 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:50.840 Isn't that something? 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.760 But yes, okay, So in this scenario, to your point, Robes, 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.680 the other thing I want to ask you about, because 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.720 we this was one of the most charming parts of 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.840 this show over the years, the breakfast that the guy 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.080 make for the gals, and it was an organic thing 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:05.320 that has been cute. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.400 I don't know why. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:11.040 Force now it almost feels like they're they're trying really 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:16.640 hard to be like, to look like good partners. I 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.640 don't know. It doesn't feel like something that they want 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.920 to do, a duty and almost a weird competition. Then 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.800 there are all these expectations from the girls and Kenzie 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.440 when bananas because. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.720 He arranged the bananas of the heart something he put. 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.640 The eggs in the shape of a heart, Sean did. 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.599 But I was like, girl, don't be so enthusiastic. 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.040 Excited, right, Yeah, I thought it was too much. It 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:41.840 was a lot trying to push back and the other 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.960 thing we will get into. Let me start. Then this 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:46.960 was the other thing I want to ask you about. Impressions. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.680 Most of the conversation last night, and I was sitting 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.400 between you and the bean on the couch. You're all 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:56.080 going back and forth about the bombshell Cata. Now we 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.440 don't know this young lady. We're not making any judgment 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.760 about this young lady and who she is, and so 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.680 don't want to be critical, but you all recognize something 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.040 that for a guy I don't immediately see. And you 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.600 all were exchanging notes even at your age and she's 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:14.440 in the seventh grade. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.640 You all recognize your oh, because no matter what, when 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.880 you're a woman, you're always in the seventh grade, and 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.760 so those dynamics stay with you for the rest of 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.600 your life. And so yes, I hate to stereotype. And 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.080 again I don't know her, but she was or is 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:34.040 and appears to be that girl we all know who 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:37.000 knows she's hot and likes to just hang out with 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.480 the guys and be the cool, hot girl who doesn't 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:46.640 necessarily vibe with other girls. And we all know that girl, 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.880 and she is absolutely that girl. And so you get 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:55.000 an immediate visceral reaction because we all have had that experience, 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:58.040 whether you're in seventh grade likes to be in or 0:11:58.080 --> 0:11:59.520 you're a grown ass woman like me. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.400 All were killing me. And I didn't say. 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.160 I guess after a little while, and there was a 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.840 moment where she was Kaita was the girls we're talking. 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.000 She was the only one overwhellled the guys playing volleyball 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:10.400 or something. 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.160 She's the cool, sporty, hot thing in her barely there 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.720 bikini with a perfect body and a perfect face. The 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.080 girl is stunning. So I guess the point is, you 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.000 don't you don't even have to do that other stuff. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.720 But notice she was fishing for compliments the entire the 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:28.160 last two episodes. If you pay attention, she's constantly fishing 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.840 for compliments, and I actually want to give her like 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:32.880 I want to actually say, you know what, that's tough 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.440 because she is so gorgeous. That is her value in 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.520 her head, and she's constantly needing to be affirmed. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.800 Was twenty three and from? Is she she? New Hampshire? Yes? 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.480 How did you forget? That was my favorite line of 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:50.080 the whole night. I don't know why Kada feels it's 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:54.000 necessary when she tells people where she's from, the next 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.160 thing she says is, I'm from New Hampshire. Do you 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.520 know where that is? I'm sorry, maybe some people don't. 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.800 Where is that coming from? Can you can you imagine 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:04.280 me going to say, hey, I'm from Georgia. Do you 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:05.720 know where that is? Well? 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.000 It's different. It's the smallest day. People don't spend a 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:09.880 lot of time up in this area the country. Maybe 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.839 the people you're actually trying to defend that. 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:16.960 That is the strangest, my weirdest response to anything. What 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:18.960 do you mean do I know where New Hampshire is? 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.079 You know she might have in her life and experience 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.079 when she tells me on from New Hampshire, like, oh, 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:23.600 I don't. 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:23.840 Even know where. 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.199 Let people ask, then I bet they won't because even 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.679 like there are people like I'm from New Jersey. Yeah 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.560 I know where New Hampshire is. Like what I just thought? 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:38.360 She said it multiple times. That's part of the fun, 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.280 the riveting conversations. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.040 Hey, yes, some of the compost last night. They're just 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.280 getting to know each other. It will get better, right, 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:46.199 What do you like. 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.840 On your pizza? 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.040 It was a pepperoni conversation. Your dog is code of mine? 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:51.640 Is kaya? 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.520 No way get out? Oh my god, that's almost the same. 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.280 We're like, we're destined to be together. Oh the universe 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:00.200 is speaking. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.439 Well, Okay, stop, it's a dating show. It's been three days. 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.839 They're gonna get to know each other. It's gonna be fine. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:10.520 We have to pick up with what's her name eyes. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.240 Kensey from Ken from NNES. 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.080 I can't forget that, Okay, Kensey saw is she was 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:19.080 on last night? 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.680 I have to ask no, no, should I wait and ask 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.200 that later? She was? 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:30.040 She's still robes upset. She's still upset that she was rejected. Initially, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:31.480 you and I got back and back and forth. 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.560 We won't do that again. He was honest with her. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.640 That let's keep that conversation where it was. 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.200 But what do you think of this idea? Keinsey refusing 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.120 to talk to Zach Now, no, no, no, no. I don't 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:44.960 think it's the worst thing in the world. I don't 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.000 think it's the right thing. I think it's an immature 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.680 thing and it's something that a hurt person will do. 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.040 But how long does she keep that up? Because it 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.840 seemed like something she needs is to reject him back, 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:56.360 if you will, He's asked to talk to hers twice. 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.560 It made her feel powerful because she felt powerless. But 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.160 it's very transparent and it's not a good look for her. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.040 So I hope that she can recognize that, because I 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.720 know in the moment it felt so good, but it 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.680 looked so small, and she would have looked so much 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.960 more confident and so much you know, and I get 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:15.560 it it's hard to do. But when you actually do 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.640 believe in yourself and you actually don't care what she 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.320 keeps claiming both of those things, she would have spoken 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.440 to him. Yeah, So what she says isn't what she does. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.120 I hate it's going that way for her. I just 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.760 wish she Yeah, it'll happen again. It's three days. People 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:29.200 get hurt. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:30.640 And I keep. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.520 Adding this to it when you and Sabine were telling 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.560 me about some of these strong reactions maybe from some 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.600 of the women I wanted to and I still do think, 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:42.520 but what level do you assign? Like a lot of 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:50.600 this is a pressure cooker of time, scrutiny, cameras, and frankly, 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.440 desperation to stay on the show, like you're trying. I 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.680 got a guy in front of me and oh crap, 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.520 if I don't make this work, I might get kicked 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.240 off the show. How much of that do you think 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:00.880 is playing it? 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:02.360 It's a huge part of it. And there's one hundred 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.720 thousand dollars at stake, too, so let's not forget that 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.560 there is a real money out there for these folks. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.200 But really, I think, yes, of course the money is 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:14.040 on folks' minds, but mostly it's your repututation. It's how 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.040 people view you. You're desperately fighting for your reputation. You're 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:21.320 desperately fighting for you to be seen the way you 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.320 want to be seen, for people to consider you or 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.560 regard you if they want to be the hot one. 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.080 Everyone wants to be wanted, so suddenly if you're the 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.040 one on the show who seems to be the one 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.600 who's rejected, that's humiliating. And yes, it's driving a lot 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.440 of this emotion because how you view yourself, how you 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:44.200 value yourself, is literally up for interpretation and people are 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.880 voting and judging on what they think of you. That's 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:51.120 an incredibly difficult position to be in at that young 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.880 of an age, when it is, let's be honest, a 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:55.360 lot about looks right now. 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.760 Well, stay with us, folks. When we come back. 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:02.160 We will explain what's so far I think has been 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:08.680 the best learning moment, the most positive moment, encouraging moment, 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:13.800 and heartwarming moment that I've seen so far on the show. Also, 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.760 we'll try to explain to you our conversation and why 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:22.639 Sabine and roboch we're getting onto me last night for 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.679 not understanding why Melanie was crying, and we'll try to 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:31.399 figure out what the hell sinceres Fish's story was about stare. 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.520 Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ. 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:49.240 We are talking about episode three, Love Island USA, Season eight. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:53.359 It's a sizzler already, and it's got us watching and 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.119 it's keeping all of us talking, and that means the 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.919 show is doing something right now. You just told me 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.320 remind me of everything I teased. I'm like, I don't 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.200 know if I can, because you went through a lot 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:09.199 of stuff. But I do think one of the really 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:13.080 interesting conversations was the one we were having, Sabina and 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.199 I were having with you because we were trying to 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.919 explain to you why Melanie was so emotional, why she 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:23.000 was crying, why she got so upset when she heard 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:29.720 her guy Sincere maybe not seeming so much like he 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:34.280 basically in this challenge admitted that he had texted other 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.600 women while he was seeing one girl, and this all 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:41.560 took place on the same day where he pulled aside 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:47.080 the big hotty Kita, the bombshell who kind of looks 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.680 like Melanie my. 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.200 Skin, long hair, same builds, kind of a thing, okay. 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:56.760 Correct, And so she felt like he was sneaky. So 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.840 this is by pulling her aside, so she felt threatened. 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:01.720 I didn't realize, you know what, you helped me with 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:03.680 something there. I didn't realize she was already hot when 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.320 that game started. That makes sense already. 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.840 Hot because he had pulled aside the I mean someone 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.280 could say, I don't want to the hotter version of her. 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:15.000 So she feels threatened, like you see a girl who like, Wow, 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.080 she looks like me, but I think she might even 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.119 be prettier than me. So now you're already feeling insecure. 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.640 And then in this game he admits that he kind 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:26.040 of is a player. So now she is so upset, 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.160 and clearly there's history there for her. Clearly this girl 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:30.760 has been hurt by someone before. 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:32.880 Was she crying before the game? 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.840 The tears came before the game she had seen okay, 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.560 and most folks listen to us now I've seen the show. 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:42.040 But the guy she's linked up with, they call him 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.560 pull a side where they call him pull you. 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:46.880 Can I pull you to talk? This thing? They keeps saying, 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:47.800 can I pull you for a second? 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.359 Kind of So they go and he pulls Kaita the 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:52.040 new girl, and just go had sits and has a 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:56.560 conversation with her. He never mentions this to the woman 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.320