WEBVTT - Hour 1 – Brewers and Braves Lost Opportunity, Bijan Robinson Gets Paid, Danettes Take Over

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome to the program. It's our one on this Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan and the Dan Ets Dan Patrick Show morale is hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Fritzie's in the back row with a big smile on

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<v Speaker 2>his face. Dylan is there with his poker face. Marvin

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<v Speaker 2>front row. I don't know what kind of face you have,

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<v Speaker 2>A friendly face. I'd say that's a friendly face right there,

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<v Speaker 2>and then PAULI, that's a professorial face that he has.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Paul, real quick before we move on, did any

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<v Speaker 3>of you guys have a great yearbook photo? My senior

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<v Speaker 3>year felt good about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, although I had a red blazer on it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why. My mom took me shopping and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a side it's the angle is very dramatic. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why I allow this to happen, but it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Hair look good, got this red blazer on, and of

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<v Speaker 2>all my pictures, that's probably the best that I had

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<v Speaker 2>yes time.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the schools they hire these people, they think they

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<v Speaker 4>Fellini or something like that. They don't wish they were in.

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<v Speaker 5>Some kind of movie or something, and they're like, this

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<v Speaker 5>is the best they can do is taking like middle

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<v Speaker 5>school or high school pictures.

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<v Speaker 4>They get a little carried away with it over the

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<v Speaker 4>shoulder look or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Did fully need take high school pictures?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Hopefully did I think he just went

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<v Speaker 4>right to the big time as far as.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, like Richard Avedon or somebody like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe, Yeah, they take me a little too seriously that

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<v Speaker 5>the people were taking the pictures of that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's just a high school yearbook. Relax.

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<v Speaker 2>How about you, Marvin, how was your high school yearbook?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, I don't mind it.

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<v Speaker 6>I had a had a tan shirt, a tan tie,

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<v Speaker 6>and I had football pants on that you cannot see.

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<v Speaker 6>My mom got me out of football practice that Marvel.

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<v Speaker 6>You got to take this photo because it was the

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<v Speaker 6>last day, So Marvin, you have to.

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<v Speaker 4>So it looked good.

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<v Speaker 6>The hair looked good, you know, had had the waves,

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<v Speaker 6>had the waves spinning when I had hair.

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<v Speaker 2>What about you, Dylan?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh? My, my I peaked probably with like my fifth

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<v Speaker 7>grade yearbook photo, but my senior year one they used

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<v Speaker 7>the I didn't like fill out anything, so I think

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<v Speaker 7>they just use one. And it's the one where I

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<v Speaker 7>have like my fist under my chin like the thinker.

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<v Speaker 7>It's uh, it's pretty brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be Rodan, very good, yes, Rodan. Uh, Fritzy

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<v Speaker 2>has a picture like that with your your chin resting.

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<v Speaker 5>On your your real like a really concentrating But my

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<v Speaker 5>picts are all puffy hair, weird things with suspenders of

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<v Speaker 5>a lore shirts, jams shirts.

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<v Speaker 4>Back in the day, and that was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like carpeting on your shirt. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>the day, stat of the day, all of that forthcoming.

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<v Speaker 2>Ya had a lot of trades. The difference between buyers

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<v Speaker 2>and sellers just a couple of games. I still go

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<v Speaker 2>back to the Brewers. Look, I know small market. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>in the AL and NL Central want to spend money,

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<v Speaker 2>although the Cubs do. But you have this team that

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<v Speaker 2>they have the third best odds right now to win

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<v Speaker 2>the World Series. Go out and at least put in

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<v Speaker 2>an effort for Terrek Skubel because it helps you in

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<v Speaker 2>two ways. It keeps him from the Dodgers, and with

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<v Speaker 2>him and Misowski, you can win with those two guys

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<v Speaker 2>as your starters. Certainly in a five game series, but

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<v Speaker 2>a seven game series. So I at what point do

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<v Speaker 2>you say, Okay, we're all in. I go back with

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<v Speaker 2>the Brewers when they traded for CC Sabathia. They used

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<v Speaker 2>him down the stretch. It didn't work out in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>but at least they made an effort there. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>know you give up prospects, but at what point do

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<v Speaker 2>you say this is as good as we kind of

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<v Speaker 2>expect to be or want to be, And you're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to go out there and keep

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<v Speaker 2>that picture from that You have to go through the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers anyway, So why not go get a guy the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers really might need now with Otani not being able

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<v Speaker 2>to pitch, So that one surprised me a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>The Braves same thing. You got a lot of talent. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they think this is good enough, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it is. Certainly in the National League. In the

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<v Speaker 2>American League, this is where I'd be going. If I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the Rays. Certainly the Yankees, I'd go all in. The

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<v Speaker 2>American league's wide open. You can get to the World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's not a lot of hurdles in your

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<v Speaker 2>way in the American League. Now, the Yankees they have

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<v Speaker 2>the second best odds. You know, the Red Sox are

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<v Speaker 2>now back in the picture. Who would have thought. But

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm the Rays, maybe I can't keep trek scuoble.

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<v Speaker 2>But what is the goal here? Is the goal to

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<v Speaker 2>make the playoffs? And kind of be threatening. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the World Series? Like what is the

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<v Speaker 2>goal here? And that's what's lost on me with the

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<v Speaker 2>trade deadline. Go in and roll the dice, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know we'll look back and say, oh my gosh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know three years ago they gave up that prospect. I

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<v Speaker 2>get it, but I would at least want my team

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<v Speaker 2>to go, let's go. I don't want you to be crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to be drunken sailors. I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to be smart about it. Get the right guy

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<v Speaker 2>for your team. And Trek Scuoble is the best pitcher

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<v Speaker 2>in baseball, at least on the short list, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Brewers Missserowski tired down the stretch last year. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>have to give him him almost an innings limit pitch count.

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<v Speaker 2>But you got to be ready to go in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you got the third best odds and you're

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<v Speaker 2>not loading up and not keeping Trek Scuble from the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it's a missed opportunity. The Falcons have signed

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<v Speaker 2>b Jeon Robinson to a new deal. He and Jamier

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<v Speaker 2>Gibbs were holding out or holding in. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>updated running back pay and this just happened about fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>minutes ago. Bjeon Robinson is twenty two point twenty five million.

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<v Speaker 2>With incentives, it'll be twenty five million, So that's number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two on the list is Saquon Barkley at twenty

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<v Speaker 2>point six Christian McCaffrey nineteen million, Devon eighth Chan sixteen million.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jamir Gibbs probably is looking at something in the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three million dollar range. With incentives. For Bijon Robinson

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<v Speaker 2>it could be up to twenty five million. And you

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<v Speaker 2>start to look at the value of these two running backs.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying they've separated themselves because sik One Barkley

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<v Speaker 2>is still wonderful, but Bijon signs three years seventy five million,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you start to look at what his contributions are,

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<v Speaker 2>he might be the best running back in football. If

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<v Speaker 2>I look at what he did last year, he had

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen hundred and seventy eight rushing yards, he averaged five

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<v Speaker 2>point one yards per carry, He had seventy nine catches,

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<v Speaker 2>He had twenty three hundred yards from scrimmage and eleven touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>Gibbs twelve hundred yards rushing, averaged five yards per Carrie

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<v Speaker 2>had seventy seven catches for six hundred yards eighteen hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty nine yards from scrimmage with eighteen touchdowns. Extremely

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<v Speaker 2>valuable and both of them are and really the center

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<v Speaker 2>point of their offenses and the running back position starting

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<v Speaker 2>to get paid again CMC. When he got paid, then

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<v Speaker 2>Saquon came in. Now you got Bijon and then you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have Jamiir Gibbs get paid as well.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, poll.

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<v Speaker 2>Question for the first hour of the program, Dylan, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you thinking about?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, we can start off with one from PAULI. Spending

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<v Speaker 7>a lot on your running back is smart or not smart?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>When the Falcons drafted Bijon Robinson, what did they take

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<v Speaker 2>him eighth? The Lions they took Jamir Gibbs, what was

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<v Speaker 2>he twelve?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Your goal is to get your running back another contract.

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<v Speaker 2>I would think if you're going to take somebody up

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<v Speaker 2>that high, isn't your goal to be like I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to be great and we want to bring you back.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not big on running backs after five years. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think the wear and tear touches, not just running

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, pass receiving. But you get guys, if they

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<v Speaker 2>know how to protect themselves, that's the key. I get

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<v Speaker 2>you out in space. I don't want to run you

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<v Speaker 2>off the middle. You're gonna be able to break off

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<v Speaker 2>some of these for long touchdowns, so you're a home

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<v Speaker 2>run hitter like Jeremiah Love is already getting paid a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money for the Arizona Cardinals. But what we're

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<v Speaker 2>asking those running backs to do is basically everything. Be

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<v Speaker 2>a wide receiver, be a running back, be a decoy,

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<v Speaker 2>be able to block. And if I'm now, I was

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<v Speaker 2>in on Saquon Barkley and the Giants taking him number

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<v Speaker 2>two overall because I thought he would be the missing

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<v Speaker 2>piece and help out Eli Manning at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>his career.

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<v Speaker 3>I was wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Saquan was a great player, or had the potential to

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<v Speaker 2>be great. We just didn't see it until he went

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<v Speaker 2>to Philadelphia. Jamiir Gibbs, b John Robinson. They're worth that money.

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<v Speaker 2>And it probably probably started with Christian McCaffrey because we

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was done before he went to San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, I don't know how much longer he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to play and how much they

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<v Speaker 2>used him. Well, he's still been banged up, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>still been great. When it comes to Offensive Player of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year, he's usually on the short list there and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of created or recreated the impression of what a

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<v Speaker 2>running back should be. Now I can go back to

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<v Speaker 2>Ricky Waters or Marshall Falk, some of my favorite players,

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<v Speaker 2>Roger Craig Ladanian, Tomlinson that they kind of created this

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<v Speaker 2>hybrid right in front of us, and you know, putting

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<v Speaker 2>even more pressure on defenses. Now you have to account

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<v Speaker 2>for that guy. Yeah, and then if you had to

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<v Speaker 2>have a great running back, I don't know if defense

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<v Speaker 2>is Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you look at Bijon Robinson Dan in his

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<v Speaker 3>three years in the NFL, as you said he's had,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's got two hundred and sixty one to

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred ninety eight catches in the NFL so far

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<v Speaker 3>that make him the third leading receiver from his draft

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<v Speaker 3>class at the running back position. He was first team

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<v Speaker 3>All Pro last year twenty two and ninety eight yards,

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<v Speaker 3>and same thing with Jamir Gibbs three years close to

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand all purpose yards per year.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I feel like like the McCaffrey's and the Bejons

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<v Speaker 7>of the world, can they command more money because of

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<v Speaker 7>their pass catching out of the backfield.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're a full service running back that you never

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<v Speaker 3>has to leave the field. A guy like remember a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of years ago, Leonard Fournette was taken high. He

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<v Speaker 3>can't catch a hundred balls. He can't catch eighty balls.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good running back, but probably not the all purpose

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<v Speaker 3>running back of today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll take a break. We'll be back after this

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<v Speaker 3>Back on The Dan Patrick Show. Polypaps Dylan Marvin Fritzie

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<v Speaker 3>having at audio issues in Maine. We're gonna get that

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<v Speaker 3>worked out with Dan real quick, Dylan, let's go to

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<v Speaker 3>you and go back to the initial poll. And you

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<v Speaker 3>have other poll options for us this morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well recap the first one, which is spending a

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<v Speaker 7>lot on your running back? Is smart or not smart?

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<v Speaker 7>We've got some early results, Paul, if you'd like smart

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<v Speaker 7>and not smart, let's do it. Do you want to guess?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, sixty percent not smart?

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<v Speaker 7>Pretty good? Sixty seven percent not smart.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you look at the situation, like Dan said

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of minutes ago, it's like the Falcons decided

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<v Speaker 3>to go heavy in the running back position with Bijon.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's that when you do it when your team

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<v Speaker 3>is to play, not ready to play. And Bijon Robinson,

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<v Speaker 3>they took him. He's a sure thing. He's twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>years old. They're buying his prime. But then if you

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<v Speaker 3>look at Jeremiah Love out in Arizona, they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>spend fifty million on him, and do they have a

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<v Speaker 3>team around him to maximize him.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the very short answer is no. But I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know. It's crazy to see like a running back

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<v Speaker 7>draft for that high, like he's his initial contract is

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<v Speaker 7>like an aspirational contract for a lot of running backs

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<v Speaker 7>for their second deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's basically what Bijon's getting and Jamiir Gibbs will

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<v Speaker 3>possibly get. But you look at the Cardinals when they

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<v Speaker 3>drafted him, a lot of people are like, not the

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<v Speaker 3>right team, the great player, not the right team.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And I think when it comes to players getting

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<v Speaker 6>drafted at high you guys think of somebody like Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 6>Elliott when he was drafted fourth overall. But the thing was,

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<v Speaker 6>the Cowboys had an outstanding offensive line.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, they had a great offense line, Zach Martin and

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<v Speaker 3>those guys, and he averaged I think fifteen hundred yards

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<v Speaker 3>his first three years that go.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he led the league in rushing.

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<v Speaker 9>Yep.

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<v Speaker 6>So you get your best years. And even when he

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<v Speaker 6>was up for the extension, Dan said it like, do

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<v Speaker 6>not extend him because you put so much wear and

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<v Speaker 6>tear on his body the first four or five years

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<v Speaker 6>of their careers.

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<v Speaker 3>I called that with zek Elliott. All right, here's the

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<v Speaker 3>other topic here. If you're a Liance fan, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>Jamiir Gibbs agent, do you have to get a million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars more than BEJN Robinson?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 7>Wasn't It was it Jamar Chase, who wanted one dollar

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<v Speaker 7>more than Justin Jefferson. I think I think you can

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<v Speaker 7>kind of the proof is in the pudding there where

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<v Speaker 7>it's less about necessarily more money. It's just sort of

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<v Speaker 7>the statement like all right, I am now the highest

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<v Speaker 7>paid blank.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it does feel like it's more about the agent

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<v Speaker 3>than the player, because if you're Jamiir Gibbs, hey we're

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<v Speaker 3>getting fifty one and a half million dollars or fifty two.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the difference. But the agent has to say face

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<v Speaker 3>and get more than the last guy.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think with the Falcons, they're putting money into

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<v Speaker 6>their skilled position receivers. Now there's pressure on those guys

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<v Speaker 6>to perform because last year, all season long, we called

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<v Speaker 6>them probably the most frustrating team because they'd have a

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<v Speaker 6>great showing one week and then a no show the

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<v Speaker 6>next week. So now you're putting money into these guys,

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<v Speaker 6>especially in a winn division like the NBC South. Come

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<v Speaker 6>on now, because now you put money into these guys,

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<v Speaker 6>let's start winning.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you go back a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 3>with the Falcons, why take Pennix when you don't need

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Pennox and that draft pick looks like it might

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<v Speaker 3>not work out. They could have put another tool in there.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess I would throw a question out to the

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<v Speaker 7>room if you were, say, your Jamier Gibbs, in this

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<v Speaker 7>upcoming contract situation, how important to you you, the player,

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<v Speaker 7>would it be to get that extra million dollars on

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<v Speaker 7>your contract?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it'd be very important.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that what happens all too often the agent

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<v Speaker 5>is chirping in the player's ear, and like what Pouli

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<v Speaker 5>was saying, maybe you're comfortable with getting a certain amount

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<v Speaker 5>of money and that's plenty, and I'm good to go.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you got an agent get talking you up

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<v Speaker 5>like you can't. You got to get at least this

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<v Speaker 5>much more than him. You are the best, and then

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<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden that starts causing a complications between

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<v Speaker 5>the player and the ownership.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just a recap. Bjon Robinson of the Falcons signs

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<v Speaker 3>a new three year, seventy five million dollar contract. It's

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<v Speaker 3>really about fifty million with guarantees, but makes him the

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<v Speaker 3>highest paid running back of all time. And we are

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<v Speaker 3>entering maybe a different era where it's gonna be there's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be star running backs to get star pay and

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<v Speaker 3>then the interchangeable guys like I'll just get Isaiah Pacheco

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<v Speaker 3>for a million five or guys that can rotate or

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<v Speaker 3>take a guy in the fifth, sixth, and seventh round.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, when it comes to running backs, you have to

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<v Speaker 6>be a hybrid running bag. Derek Derek Henry is probably

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<v Speaker 6>like the last of the Mohegans where it's like he's

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<v Speaker 6>just a three yards in a cloud. It does type

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<v Speaker 6>of running bag. But the rest of those guys you

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<v Speaker 6>have to catch seventy to eighty balls a year in

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<v Speaker 6>order to be considered one of those top guys to

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<v Speaker 6>get paid that type of money.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And it's not like Derek Henry's not a great receiver,

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<v Speaker 3>but when he gets it out there, if they could

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<v Speaker 3>just dump him off to him and he's in space,

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<v Speaker 3>he's facing a safety or a cornerback and they want

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<v Speaker 3>no part of him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>So for the last three seasons of his entire career,

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<v Speaker 7>Jamier Gibbs has called seventy seven, fifty two and fifty

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<v Speaker 7>two balls each year. I mean, that's gonna go a

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<v Speaker 7>long way in contract negotiations, I would think.

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<v Speaker 3>But this does fly in the face of the most

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<v Speaker 3>successful NFL teams. If you go back to peak Patriots

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<v Speaker 3>Jonah Gray and Corey Dillon and rotate the running backs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Rex burkehead Marvin just had nice reference there. But they

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<v Speaker 3>would just rotate running backs season by season and never

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<v Speaker 3>commit and pay to any of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Besides, was that the Corey Dillon years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they paid him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>They paid him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>But the rest of those guys, there was a guy

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<v Speaker 6>with a hyphen in his name, I don't even remember,

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<v Speaker 6>guys like James White, Guys like that where the interchangeable

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<v Speaker 6>parts and obviously the console was Tom Brady and even

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<v Speaker 6>the receivers interchangeable parts. So you just kind of need

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<v Speaker 6>you don't need like a real guy like that if

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<v Speaker 6>you're one of those teams.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you look at the Chiefs run the past

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<v Speaker 3>six or seven years, they drafted isaiaha Checko seventh round

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<v Speaker 3>out of Rutgers. They paid him four million dollars for

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<v Speaker 3>four years of work. They basically got him for nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>They want a couple couple super Bowls with him. Now

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<v Speaker 3>they have Kenneth Walker the third. They're actually investing in

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback or the running back position because there's less

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<v Speaker 3>help for the quarterback. Tyreek Hill is not there anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Travis Kelsey is Travis Kelce like he was five years ago.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, and Kenneth Walker's kind of been what I would

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<v Speaker 7>call sort of that the equivalent of the second tier

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<v Speaker 7>quarterback money, where it's like he's getting like thirteen ish

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<v Speaker 7>or something like that, which is sort of your Sam

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<v Speaker 7>Darnold type deal in running back for him, which you

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<v Speaker 7>can still like, you know, you can easily win with,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, if you don't have the options to get

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<v Speaker 7>sort of the cream of the crop guy.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought Isaiah Pacheco was going to be the centerpiece

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<v Speaker 6>of Hey, we don't have to pay running backs as

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<v Speaker 6>much because we're winning super Bowls with a seventh round

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<v Speaker 6>draft pick. Because to me, you can find a good

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<v Speaker 6>five to ten, two hundred pounds running back that runs

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<v Speaker 6>hard and that can get you a thousand yards every

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<v Speaker 6>single season as long as you have a great quarterback

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<v Speaker 6>with some great wide receivers. I thought that was going

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<v Speaker 6>to be the shift, But you know, I'll proven wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you look at what the Los Angeles Rams

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<v Speaker 3>are doing, they get Kyrien Williams out of Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 3>he's having a very good career. He wasn't a top

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<v Speaker 3>ten draft pick, he wasn't a first round raft pick,

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<v Speaker 3>so they haven't really paid him yet. That's a quandary.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been nothing but great, but they're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>pay him someday or let him go and let him

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<v Speaker 3>go to the next highest bidder and just replace him

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<v Speaker 3>at the running back position.

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<v Speaker 6>And the funny thing is about the Chiefs is we

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<v Speaker 6>talked about him a couple of days ago. Clyde Edwards

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<v Speaker 6>Hilaire was a first round draft pick and he didn't

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<v Speaker 6>do what we expected him to do. We just thought

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<v Speaker 6>the rich would get richer, But instead you get Isaiabhachecki,

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<v Speaker 6>who was a seventh round draft pick.

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<v Speaker 4>That comes up big for the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 6>And so the running back position, to me, you can

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<v Speaker 6>find a serviceable running back anywhere in the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what most teams do, at least historically, teams

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<v Speaker 3>do in the fourth, fifth, sixth rounds. If you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the Chicago Bears at the running back position last year,

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<v Speaker 3>they had Kyle Manungai, also seventh round, also out of Rutgers,

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<v Speaker 3>played really well for a rookie. They don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>pay him. He's making like nine hundred thousand dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 7>I would say, though, like an argument for the the

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<v Speaker 7>Bijon's and the Jamir Gibbs of the world is it's

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<v Speaker 7>like you can get these guys for twenty three million

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<v Speaker 7>or or whatever, or you could pay your Jamar Chases

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<v Speaker 7>and your jsns for north of forty million dollars. Where

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like we've seen the running back and wide

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<v Speaker 7>receiver position kind of start to meet in the middle

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit again in terms of perceived value. So

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<v Speaker 7>it's like you are still getting a relative deal for

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<v Speaker 7>an offensive weapon maybe witho the longevity.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you look at the market the past ten years,

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<v Speaker 3>running backs about every other year or every third year,

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<v Speaker 3>you get a special running back that's a top ten

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<v Speaker 3>type pick Jeremiah Love last year, Bijon Robinson, Saquon Barkley.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't happen often. It's a bit of an eclipse.

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<v Speaker 7>Gent also, Yeah, which we're still kind of in a

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<v Speaker 7>holding pattern, I would say on that, but again that

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<v Speaker 7>goes back to situation. Yeah, you need the infrastructure there,

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<v Speaker 7>like Hiaran Williams, like you said, Paul to the Rams,

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<v Speaker 7>like ideal scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they don't have to pay them. They got a

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<v Speaker 3>great offense around them. If you go back to gent

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<v Speaker 3>taken by the Raiders last year, Dan talked about this,

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<v Speaker 3>and we talked about this in detail in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>The Raiders weren't in position to take a running back

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<v Speaker 3>in the top ten. They didn't have a good offensive line.

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<v Speaker 3>I think PFF had their offensive line ranked twenty eighth

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<v Speaker 3>last year. Genty got roughed up out of Boise State.

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<v Speaker 3>He got rouffed up last year, and you kind of

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<v Speaker 3>wasted his rookie year and people think, oh, he's not

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<v Speaker 3>working out that well. You put him a position to

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<v Speaker 3>not work out that well by not having an offensive

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<v Speaker 3>line to start with, Like Marvin you said with Ezekiel Ellen,

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<v Speaker 3>he walked in on scholarship.

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<v Speaker 6>That's like when when Jeremiah Love was drafted by the Cardinals,

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<v Speaker 6>the first thing you said was, oh, that's I feel

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<v Speaker 6>terrible team. Yes, wrong team. If you put him anywhere

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<v Speaker 6>else with the serviceable offensive line, you're looking at man

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<v Speaker 6>fifteen hundred yards maybe, But now, unfortunately we might look

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<v Speaker 6>at him like a bus because he didn't have the

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<v Speaker 6>offensive infrastructure for a slow start.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, if you look at the Cardinals last year.

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<v Speaker 3>That's maybe one of those cases where what if they

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<v Speaker 3>traded down and took advantage of another team wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>jump up for Jeremiah Love and surround your team build

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<v Speaker 3>your team. That's one of the worst talent rosters in football,

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<v Speaker 3>and they went with a running back when they don't

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<v Speaker 3>have the talent to surround it. They do have Rogers us,

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<v Speaker 3>they do a tight end, They have a decent defense,

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<v Speaker 3>but offensive line not there.

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<v Speaker 6>Now do you think the Jeremiah Love draft pick was

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<v Speaker 6>let's pick the best player, but also let's get somebody

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<v Speaker 6>to excite the fan base in Arizona, somebody who can

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<v Speaker 6>be on the cover of your media guide going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sure that's a strategy of a team like that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not very relevant. Kyler Murray's gone. You don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a star on the roster. Marvin Harrison junior has star

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<v Speaker 3>power from college, but not star play. Trey McBride not

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<v Speaker 3>a star. But that's where I hope it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 3>marketing draft pick. Marketing draft picks rarely do they work out.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta get fans a reason to come out, I guess,

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<v Speaker 5>and if you know you're gonna be bad for.

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<v Speaker 4>The next couple of years. You might as well get

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<v Speaker 4>someone that has some kind of name Breck.

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<v Speaker 3>But if the marketing staff has to say, come out

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<v Speaker 3>and watch Jeremiah Love run for three point six yards.

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<v Speaker 4>Of aage, fortunate, that's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Just recap Dan Patrick show working on Dan's audio, Dylan, Marvin,

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<v Speaker 3>Pauli and Fritzi here holding down the fort. A little

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<v Speaker 3>good news. How about a little good news in college football?

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<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame USC rivalry is back. Ish, Yeah, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>It's back in three years from Oh what a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of barriers that one don't read the fide in print. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>starting in twenty thirty, Notre Dame versus USC will be back.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the first two years in this reincarnation will

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<v Speaker 3>be week one, once in Notre Dame, once out at

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<v Speaker 3>the coliseum. Then after that it will be somewhere in

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<v Speaker 3>weeks one, two, and three.

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<v Speaker 4>Your thoughts how far ahead do they go?

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<v Speaker 5>I asked you this off air and when we had

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<v Speaker 5>the pre show meeting, But can you explain, like, why

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<v Speaker 5>does it take so long that this can't get started

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<v Speaker 5>for three four years from now?

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<v Speaker 3>Generally in college football, the athletic directors put together their

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<v Speaker 3>out of conference schedules at least two years in advance.

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<v Speaker 3>You can go on like Texas's website or Georgia's and

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<v Speaker 3>see upcoming schedules, and a lot of it is out

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<v Speaker 3>of conference games. So that gap with Notre Dame in

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<v Speaker 3>USC is about they let it lapse. It's like the

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<v Speaker 3>a lease on a car. You let it lapse, you

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<v Speaker 3>got to restart it. They have to restart it, but

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<v Speaker 3>it won't start till twenty thirty. But what really is

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<v Speaker 3>bothersome is letting it lapse in the first place. That's

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<v Speaker 3>really bothersome. It's a perfect rivalry. Notre Dame in their style,

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:03.679
<v Speaker 3>USC and their style clearly don't like each other. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a national rivalry.

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<v Speaker 7>Is there a reason that they let it lapse, like

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<v Speaker 7>or was it purely just like, oh, we forgot to

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<v Speaker 7>fill out some paperwork.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's there exact who's your fault for that? I don't recall.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to remember stories like who's to blame?

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<v Speaker 10>How?

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<v Speaker 4>And is it's on both sides? Why would that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Ever, dyl And I like your idea that they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>file the paperwork in time, like an injunction oh, the

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<v Speaker 3>deadline was July first. We just didn't get it, Ducks.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's a lot of finger pointing. When the

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 3>dam Patrick Show was out at Notre Dame last year.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked to Pete Vaqua Notre Dame and he seemed

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<v Speaker 3>to point the fingers at USC for halting the rivalry.

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<v Speaker 3>Usc AD said, oh, we wanted to keep it going.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't really know who did. Notre Dame was pretty

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<v Speaker 3>stringent that they didn't want to stop it. And it

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<v Speaker 3>feels like when USC joined the Big Ten they were

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<v Speaker 3>looking for no offense, a couple early season wins, not

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<v Speaker 3>upping their schedule because they knew the Big Ten schedules.

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<v Speaker 4>Tough, Paul, you took the words out of my mouth.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the first thing I thought of, Like, man, we

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<v Speaker 6>got to play Michigan, Ohio State, now Indiana where you

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<v Speaker 6>have Michigan State, all these other teams in that way

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 6>us he's on the schedule. Also, Man, we can't do

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<v Speaker 6>all of this and play all these really good teams.

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<v Speaker 6>So you know what, we might take a break, but

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<v Speaker 6>I'm glad they're back when we're out there in Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, just the anticipation around that game was through

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<v Speaker 6>the roof. And it's one of those rivalries where they're

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<v Speaker 6>not close in proximity, but it's a tale as old

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<v Speaker 6>as time. Like my entire life, it's been Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 6>USC as a big time rival.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Hollywood versus the Midwest. You've been to both of

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<v Speaker 3>those campuses, Notre Dame and USC. They're polled their opposites,

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<v Speaker 3>and the thing is, you're right USC when they answered

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<v Speaker 3>the Big Ten said we have a tough conference schedule,

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<v Speaker 3>tougher than you know, Peak PAC ten Pac twelve, And

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<v Speaker 3>they say, you know what, we want to play Notre

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<v Speaker 3>Dame week one or how about a nice San Jose

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 3>State home game?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh we ever gonna learn who was afraid to play whom?

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<v Speaker 5>Because that says I would love for someone to step

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<v Speaker 5>forward and go, no, they.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't want to play it US.

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<v Speaker 3>No one's raising their hands for its on this one.

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<v Speaker 7>I do think it's for it's advantageous for both of

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 7>them to get it out of the way week one, though,

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<v Speaker 7>because if you lose, you know, like if that game

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<v Speaker 7>is played later in the season, you know it could

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<v Speaker 7>be more of a stand out a little more in

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<v Speaker 7>terms of the recency bias, and.

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<v Speaker 6>The beauty for Notre Dame is it's a win win

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<v Speaker 6>no matter what, because say, if you lose to Notre

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<v Speaker 6>Dame in Week one, man, we played a really tough

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 6>USC team to start the season.

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean I like it, though, Dah, I hate

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<v Speaker 4>that it's three years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's really silly as three years. When you saw

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<v Speaker 3>the headline, like you said, Notre Dame versus USC is

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<v Speaker 3>back in three years.

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<v Speaker 4>That fine print got me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing about Notre Dame is they are so

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<v Speaker 3>positioned to make the playoffs every year, even as is

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<v Speaker 3>without playoff expansion. Notre Dame front loads their schedule. They

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<v Speaker 3>play the really big teams like last year A and

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<v Speaker 3>M in Miami. They could afford losses, not even multiple

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<v Speaker 3>losses because the Playoffmitte looks as those as quality out

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 3>of conference losses, which is a weird thing. But Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 3>the last seventy five percent of their schedule is more

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<v Speaker 3>like Stanford, Navy, Boston College, generally winnable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I think they end with QS this season.

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<v Speaker 9>Two.

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<v Speaker 7>That should be a wee.

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<v Speaker 3>That's friendly.

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<v Speaker 7>That's friendly. I mean they make the college football playoff.

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:12.200
<v Speaker 7>Notre Dame has overwhelmingly the best odds, so they're minus

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 7>eight hundred in Ohio State and Indian or minus three fifties.

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 7>So like, basically Vegas is telling you there's almost no

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 7>scenario that Notre Dame doesn't at least make the playoff.

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 3>So this year for Notre Dame, the Irish schedule twenty

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 3>twenty six, neutral site versus Wisconsin week one, then some

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 3>friendly weekends Rice, Michigan State, Purdue, North Carolina, Stanford and

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 3>a very beatable Wisconsin yesh. So they finish the season

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<v Speaker 3>Navy Miami, that's their tough one. If their quarterback CJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Carr is going to win a Heisman, his chance will

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<v Speaker 3>be pile up yards the week's leading up to that,

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<v Speaker 3>and then take down Miami National TV, NBC and November seven.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't they put something in place where like you got

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<v Speaker 5>to play tougher teams late in the season. I understand

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 5>the schools don't want to have a late loss because

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 5>it's recency buyers and that could affect making the playoff

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 5>altogether or where they're ranked or whatever where they're seated,

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<v Speaker 5>But that's just so weak there, Like well d in

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<v Speaker 5>the beginning of the season and then they'll forget about

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 5>a bad early loss and then we'll just have the

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<v Speaker 5>cupcakes take us the rest of the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Fritzi, you bring up the biggest problem with scheduling

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 3>in college football. They want to avoid tough games in November.

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Besides those conference rivalries. If you're Ole, mess you're playing

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 3>Misissippi State, if you're North Carolina South Carolina. But they

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 3>want cupcakes to end the season, and a team like

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame is going to finish the season with kind

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 3>of traditional rivalries like Boston College, SMU and Syracuse. But

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 3>if you look at the SEC over the years, you'd

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 3>see Georgia versus Wafford on November tenth, eight Oh, you

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 3>see Alabama versus Citadel no offense preface.

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 4>As a fan, your conditioned to it. As a season

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 4>comes to the an end.

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 5>In any sport, that's when things really heat up, NFL, NBA,

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 5>anything goes last games matter so much, and then to

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<v Speaker 5>see it's really disappointing to see how college football is

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 5>so different and they go the other way.

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<v Speaker 6>I just had a quick question about Notre Dame Miami.

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<v Speaker 6>I know their arrival is their rivalry as in tense

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 6>as Notre Dame USC or was it just during the

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 6>Catholics Versus Convicts era where it was that intense of

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 6>a rivalry.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a tough question. I grew up on Notre Dame

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 3>and Notre Dame Miami became a kind of a new rivalry,

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 3>like you said, in the eighties and nineties and went

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 3>away for a while. Usc I feature feels way more

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 3>old school. Michigan is very old school. But they have

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 3>like a series of them, but they're all national, They're

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 3>all distant rivalries like Notre Dame. Indiana would be a

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 3>rivalry now because Indiana is good.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'll be curious to see if that one blossoms

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 7>into something now, if Indiana can sort of maintain any

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 7>sort of stature that it's gained.

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, one kicker in the story about Notre Dame versus

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 3>usc is being back, It looks like Notre Dame versus

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 3>IU is not going to be happening in the near future.

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 3>That one is on the shelf. And could it be

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 3>because IU is good now? The Hoosias are good. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what people think nationally now.

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 6>Is Notre Dame in the same position as Duke Is

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 6>where they're a national brand because they're not tied to

0:29:57.720 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 6>a city or state, like there's no city or state

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 6>in the does that helped the brand.

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent. Notre Dame was almost like omnipresence. They're

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 3>like Kaiser SoSE. They're kind of in the Northwest Indiana

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 3>area where I have friends who go, Hey, I'm gonna

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 3>visit Chicago. Can we run over to see Notre Dame? Like, yeah,

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 3>it's two hours away. It's not down the street, it's

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 3>not in the South burbs of Chicago. Notre Dame is

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of an entity more than a place.

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 7>That blew my mind that South Bend was in a

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 7>different time zone than Chicago. I was like, wait.

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 3>What, And that's really confusing because it's just over the border,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean time zone wise.

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<v Speaker 5>At the risk of sounding ignorant, can the ncaafay have

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<v Speaker 5>no power at all to change this whole cupcakes thing

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 5>late in the season and there's no one has any

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 5>kind of power over these schools that all to say, hey,

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 5>you got to play a few more tough teams lately.

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna break and take some calls a second, But

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Fritzy's point is that there is no NCAA scheduling zs are.

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 3>You have all these conferences making their own schedules, and

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 3>they work with in conjunction with ESPN, Fox Sports and

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 3>other places. But they don't need approval. If Wisconsin wants to,

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 3>if if Georgia wants to schedule the Citadel, there's no

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 3>stopping them. If in the end of the NFL is

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 3>a complete opposite. They have a complete scheduling office that

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 3>builds storylines, that builds weeks and make sure there's no

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<v Speaker 3>gaps in the schedule. If you wanted one thing that

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<v Speaker 3>would up college football bigger than it already is if

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<v Speaker 3>you had an NCAA scheduling office that worked with the

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<v Speaker 3>teams and the schools and the networks, and you can

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<v Speaker 3>make Notre Dame Texas week one. You can have usc

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<v Speaker 3>U c L a earlier in the season and then

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<v Speaker 3>maybe next year it's later in the season. You can

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<v Speaker 3>ensure Texas always plays A and M. You can make

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<v Speaker 3>sure Oklahoma always plays Texas on a certain date. Build

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<v Speaker 3>more traditions back. You can't control people in and out

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<v Speaker 3>of conferences, but you can control who plays who and

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<v Speaker 3>when and avoid Ohio State opening the season versus Ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh You got to make some calls we have.

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<v Speaker 6>We have to.

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<v Speaker 4>People in college football? Is this ridiculous? It's lasted this long.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish we'd call Charlie Baker right Stick around Dan

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<v Speaker 7>We had a new one Pauli too. This is a

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<v Speaker 7>bit of a left turn, but something Todd and I

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<v Speaker 7>were talking about yesterday. Oh boy, No, don't worry, it's

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<v Speaker 7>not bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Just because Dan's out for a couple of minutes, Here

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<v Speaker 3>comes Dan.

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<v Speaker 7>How often do you replace your phone? Every time a

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<v Speaker 7>new one comes out every couple of years, whenever it

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<v Speaker 7>fully breaks or you.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't know what.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to give a little backstory on this, Fritzi was

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<v Speaker 3>talking about his phone, which I think is six years

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<v Speaker 3>old and says he never replaces it until he absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>has to.

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<v Speaker 5>It's in bad shape and I can't even charge it

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes because I something with the prongs on the bottom

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<v Speaker 5>of the phone. We have to wiggle it a certain

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<v Speaker 5>way for it to charge. And sometimes the email comes in.

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes it goes to email. The clock is starting to

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<v Speaker 5>like fade away. It's just a mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Fritzie. I don't know if you know much about

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<v Speaker 3>these phone companies, but they want you to replace your phone,

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<v Speaker 3>and they give you incentives.

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<v Speaker 4>Does seem that way?

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<v Speaker 5>I've seen the commercials were like, you know, bring in

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<v Speaker 5>your old phone and they'll give you all kinds of

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<v Speaker 5>presents and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So you prefer yours to work spodily as opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>walking in changing it over and walking.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm such a creature of habit.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I'm afraid, even with the cloud and everything,

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<v Speaker 5>somehow I'm gonna get a new phone and things are

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be missing where it's not gonna work the way

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<v Speaker 5>the other phone did. The same thing happened to me

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<v Speaker 5>with the BlackBerry, and that's why I'm like holding onto

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<v Speaker 5>this thing. But this morning, as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 5>I plugged it in and it's said, I've never seen

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<v Speaker 5>this before. I don't know if you've guys ever had this.

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<v Speaker 5>I think my phone is like an R X or

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<v Speaker 5>an XR. I don't even think they call it by

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<v Speaker 5>letter Z.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yours is probably triple AX.

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<v Speaker 5>It said you're unable to use the phone right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Try again in a minute, and I'm like, what is that.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never seen a message like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Because Todd quickly thank you Tod quickly based off that,

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<v Speaker 3>Will you drive to the phone store today and get

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<v Speaker 3>a replace?

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<v Speaker 5>It will not be today, It might be a weekend

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<v Speaker 5>thing or in the coming weeks. I keep putting it off,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's just out of laziness and just a fear

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<v Speaker 5>of that the next phone is somehow going to be

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<v Speaker 5>uncomfortable to use.

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<v Speaker 7>So the uh we're currently I believe on the iPhone

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<v Speaker 7>seventeen that's the latest model Todd as the XR, which

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<v Speaker 7>I believe would put that at around eight years old.

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<v Speaker 7>At this point, I am a thirteen and mine is

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<v Speaker 7>like really on death's door, So I can only imagine

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<v Speaker 7>just does yours?

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<v Speaker 9>Even?

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<v Speaker 7>Can you make calls?

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<v Speaker 5>I can make calls, but I noticed that somebody will

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<v Speaker 5>go to my Gmail like an email and then but

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:15.359
<v Speaker 5>for it to get to my regular email, it'll take

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<v Speaker 5>several minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll say, connecting door.

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<v Speaker 3>And welcome back to the Dan Patchow Dyl and Margaret, Fritzy,

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<v Speaker 3>Paul and pack pass holding it out down the fort

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<v Speaker 3>coming up in a little bit. Albert Breer of the

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 3>Monday Morning Quarterback to talk about all the camps, get

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 3>his take on the running back market, and a regular

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.399
<v Speaker 3>guest on this show. We have him on every year.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Sando, senior NFL writer for The Athletic. He is

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<v Speaker 3>a nuts and bolts guy, really sharp, really smart. He

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<v Speaker 3>does a thing every year, his NFL quarterback tiers. And

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<v Speaker 3>I purposely not looked at this and we won't spoil it,

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<v Speaker 3>so Dan could do the seg with Mike Sando, But

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to give you a little nugget. He

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<v Speaker 3>has I think four or five different tiers of quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>Tier one, two, three, four and five. Pretty obvious. Paul

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<v Speaker 3>Tier three, Fritzy Tier three. Bo Nix is on tiers

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<v Speaker 3>three year thoughts insulting.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been seeing a number of things, not just this ranking,

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<v Speaker 5>but for the past number of months looking into the

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<v Speaker 5>upcoming season, and I think bo Nix is being disrespected.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it's because it's just, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he doesn't have the name valued that some of the

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<v Speaker 5>other top quarterbacks have, that he's young, that they needed

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:18.959
<v Speaker 5>all these wild comebacks. You know, if he's so great,

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<v Speaker 5>then why did they have to, you know, pull off

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<v Speaker 5>all these last fourth quarter comebacks.

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<v Speaker 4>They should have had a.

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<v Speaker 5>Big lead early. Whatever the thinking is. I'm pissed off

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<v Speaker 5>about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Were easy, easy, I am.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm upset.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how you're there tier three. I also

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<v Speaker 5>don't know why the Broncos have to visit the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 5>week one after we had.

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<v Speaker 3>The one See that's not an insult, no, but that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Ridiculous that you should come to Denver. We were the

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<v Speaker 4>one seat.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say bo Nix does feel like it's a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a slight after what he did with

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 3>that team, overachieving and doing it in the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 3>get in them really in position to make a run

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<v Speaker 3>last year.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't I don't appreciate it. And Dylan, we we

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 5>talked about this too before. You like bo Nicks a

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<v Speaker 5>little more than this so called pundens or experts.

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<v Speaker 7>I would put him at at least seventeen Todd.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not helping me at all. Seventeen has been barely

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<v Speaker 4>at the bottom of tier two.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, the bigger crime is having Lamar Jackson in

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<v Speaker 7>tier two. But yeah, we're doing Homer picks over here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just one more little tidbit on the Mike Sandal

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 3>list they got Lamar Jackson's the leader. Would you rather

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<v Speaker 3>be the number one in Tier two or the last

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<v Speaker 3>one in Tier one?

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<v Speaker 4>I'd rather be in Tier one or one. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's take a few calls. Let's start with Oh here

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<v Speaker 3>comes David and Ohio David, what do you have for

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<v Speaker 3>us today?

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<v Speaker 9>Hey?

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 4>Looks up.

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<v Speaker 10>Pauling could hold down the court. I had to comment

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 10>about the had to comment about the calendar you guys

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.720
<v Speaker 10>are putting out. I think in February the page should

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 10>just be a picture of the AT and T Stadium

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.840
<v Speaker 10>with the time that says close for business, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a running gag every week calls in with his

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Cowboys chat. Let's do one more call Fresh in Milwaukee, Fresh,

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 3>what do you have for us?

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<v Speaker 9>What?

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<v Speaker 4>Guys?

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 9>I gotta say, you guys held it down so dope, man,

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 9>that was really dope. I think VP should go do

0:36:55.920 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 9>VP present the Dan Nix. But anyway, but he's thinking

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 9>about them running backs and how you guys were talking

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 9>to gout and be thinking if you were giving the

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<v Speaker 9>keys to the franchise, would your first two picks be

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<v Speaker 9>a great quarterback and a great left tackle or would

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<v Speaker 9>it be a great running back, a great corner would

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<v Speaker 9>your first speak.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan next, So you're saying, if you're building a team

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<v Speaker 3>from scratch right now in the NFL, what two positions,

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 3>not players, would you take? I think you almost have

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:27.320
<v Speaker 3>to take quarterback off the board for this discussion. Otherwise

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine someone taking another position player over, you know, whatever,

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.800
<v Speaker 3>be Jade and Daniels, Caleb Williams, whoever you love who's

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 3>top tier, or Patrick Mahomes or or Matt Stafford he's older,

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 3>but Joe Burrow. You almost have to take that off,

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<v Speaker 3>don't you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Without question, the most important position in all of sports,

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 6>period is the quarterback. I'd probably go with a left

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 6>tackle and edge rusher.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think a lot of people would agree. If

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 3>you have an all pro left tackle and all pro

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<v Speaker 3>edge rusher, you're pretty set at the two most important pains.

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<v Speaker 7>Anyone disagree, Not that I'm disagreeing, but I would. If

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<v Speaker 7>we're talking in the draft, I would just take the

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<v Speaker 7>best player, almost not regardless of position. Obviously, I'd wait,

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:15.240
<v Speaker 7>maybe like your quarterback or whatever, and rusher into your alignement.

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<v Speaker 3>You can make the case that the Cowboys did this

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:20.359
<v Speaker 3>year this year with Caleb Downs. Safety is usually not

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 3>a top ten position with the draft, but they look

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 3>at Caleb Downs as a no question mark guy, a

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 3>guy who's starting week one, hopefully starting your ten.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'm taking an rusher and a great wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 5>I know you want to have the protection of the quarterback,

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 5>but if you just stay in shotgrun and then you'll

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<v Speaker 5>have a couple extra seconds to get the receiver open

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<v Speaker 5>and get it to the receiver.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know what's crazy about the wide receiver. Besides

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.720
<v Speaker 6>JSN this past year, you don't need an all world

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 6>wide receiver to win Super Bowls.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like you could find a T. Higgins who's

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<v Speaker 3>a B plus or someone like that, who if you

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 3>don't have an A you could coddle together a wide

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 3>receiver room right, as long as you have a really

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 3>good core like you should be all said. Then you

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.760
<v Speaker 3>look at a like peak DeVante Adams with Aaron Rodgers.

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Those two are such a match that you know you

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<v Speaker 3>may pick the wide receiver, like Fritzy said.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, and even last year, you know Jayson Offensive

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 7>Player of the Year Jon Robinson had five hundred more

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:16.360
<v Speaker 7>yards from scrimmage than Jayson did. Receiving yards. I know

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 7>that's not apples to apples, but if you're talking about

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<v Speaker 7>total production, and.

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 6>How frustrating is it if you're an Atlanta Falcons fan

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 6>where you can't win the NFC.

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:29.320
<v Speaker 3>South, can't not camp? Can't they haven't they simply won't

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<v Speaker 3>not camp for this coming season. I coming up a

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 3>little bit, Dan, we'll be back with us. We'll talk

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:36.439
<v Speaker 3>to Albert Breer of the Monday Morning Quarterback and Mike

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Sando from the Athletic with his quarterback Tierless. Sure to

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 3>upset you. Stick around, Dylan, Marvin, Fritzy Pauli holding down

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<v Speaker 3>the Fort or Dan Patch show after this