1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, You're in 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: the right place. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Fires Upfield into the ends home. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 3: It is cut to Lonny. 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: What cuts down? He's gonna fire up Field's poken up. 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: Tip it intercepted by the Colts. 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: This is the Official Colts podcast, giving you an updated 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: look at what's new with the Horseshoes Colts. 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Tabitt interception two seconds slip. 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: The Colts are gonna win in. 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 4: The Indiana Union Construction Industry radio studio. 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: Let's get the podcast started. 13 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 4: Welcome into the Official Colts Podcast here on the Colts 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 4: Audio Network and on the Colts YouTube page. We are 15 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 4: sponsored by Win las Vegas. I'm JJ Stankowitz. She's Lara Overton. 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 4: No Jeffrey Gorman today, but we do have Colts offensive 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 4: coordinator Jim Bob Cooter coming up later on the podcast. 18 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 4: Lara and I had a chance to sit down with 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 4: Jimbob last week ahead of the Colts came against the Titans, 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 4: but mostly Larry. We kind of talked about big picture stuff, 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 4: his coaching career, how this season has gone, so you're 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 4: gonna want to stick around. 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 5: Shane, the dynamic, especially with the offense, building the game plan. 24 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 4: How much he sounds like Peyton manning it correct, correct 25 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: all the above. That's coming up later on this episode. 26 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 4: Laara and I though, we're gonna talk a little bit 27 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 4: about the AFC playoff race, which is just like it's 28 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 4: off the rails right now. 29 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: Are you not entertained right now? So you're a fan of. 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 4: The NFL, like so much has happened since the Colts 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 4: kicked off against the Titans that like in that game, 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 4: in that game alone, but outside of it, you've got 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett has an ankle injury. He underwent surgery that 34 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 4: could throw his status for the Colts Steelers game in 35 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: two weeks into flux. Then the Cincinnati Bengals with Jake 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 4: Browning just go and light up. The Jaguars win thirty 37 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: thirty four to thirty one in overtime on Monday Night Football. 38 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: Jake Browning, who the Colts will face this week coming 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 4: up in Cincinnati, this was. 40 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: His first win since like twenty eighteen. 41 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, since he was at Washington. He just throws for 42 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: three hundred and fifty four yards against one of the 43 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 4: best defenses in football. Pretty good. Cincinnati would have won 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: this game by a lot more had they not attempted 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: two wide receiver passes, not one, but two. Yeah, and 46 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, the AFC Wildcard race layer this. 47 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: And Jacksonville may have won had Trevor Lawrence not gone down. 48 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: That's where I kind of want to go with this. Yeah, 49 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 4: the AFC playoff race, to me, it's coming down to 50 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: unless you are and there's still time in the season. 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 4: But unless you are, You've got Tua who's been healthy, 52 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: Lamar who's been healthy. Mahomes who's been healthy this year. 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: Though he took a shot he did on Sunday. 54 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: Should have been a penalty, but that's beside the point. 55 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what you know, his 56 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 5: status is out the week. I mean, usually doesn't miss 57 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 5: a ton of practice, but I mean after that, I 58 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 5: was surprised he got up as quickly as he did. 59 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: So think about think about the AFC playoff race as 60 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: whose backup quarterback is playing the best right now. Jake 61 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: Browning vaulted to the top of this. When I was 62 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: thinking about this yesterday, I was like Gardner Minshew is 63 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: Jake Browning had an incredible game, but the Steelers are 64 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 4: going to have to lean on Mitch Trubisky yea for 65 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: some period of time. With Kenny Pikett out, he's not 66 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 4: going to play Thursday night against the Patriots. The Cleveland 67 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: Browns are on Joe Flacco, who they signed off the 68 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 4: street recently, and they had cycled through PJ. Walker, Dorian 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 4: Thompson Robinson with Deshaun Watson out. The Colts are on 70 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew since Anthony Richardson has been out. The Bengals 71 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: are on Jake Browning with Joe Burrow out. Teams that 72 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: have not lost their starting quarterback the Bills, the Broncos, 73 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 4: the Texans, and now the Jaguars Trevor Lawrence sustaining an 74 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 4: ankle injury on Monday Night Football. We'll see if CJ. Bethard, 75 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: their backup quarterback, has to play. They play the Browns 76 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: this weekend. The AFC South is still up for grabs. 77 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: The Jaguars have tie breakers over the Colts and the Texans, 78 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 4: but that is still up for grabs. Lara like this landscape. 79 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: It's just nuts, but I feel okay about it because 80 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: I've seen what Shane Stikeen has done with Gardner Minshe 81 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: and winning a game like the Colts won against the 82 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: Titans is a big marker. And a big point in 83 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: the favor of the Colts in this playoff race. 84 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 5: The Colts have been the team that has just found 85 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 5: a way week in and week out, having to win 86 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 5: games in different ways, find ways to win regardless of 87 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 5: like the crazy back and forth nature that you saw 88 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 5: in Nashville and Sunday. But I think that when you 89 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 5: talk about, okay, whose backup is playing the best? Yes, 90 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 5: you mentioned Jake Browning, but it's also whose backup quarterback 91 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 5: is playing the most consistently over the course of multiple 92 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 5: games where you feel like that, you often see a 93 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 5: backup quarterback who comes in for that you know, that 94 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 5: start coming up in relief and for a game or two, 95 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 5: it injects something you know, you're fresh off, you're able 96 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 5: to you know, you have that excitement, that enthusiasm, you're 97 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 5: thrust into this position, so there's a ton of height 98 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 5: behind it. Then it's hard to kind of sustain that. Yeah, 99 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 5: and then it also as you get more and more 100 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 5: games that you're stacking, you're also allowing defenses to see 101 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 5: more so how you are scheming for that quarterback versus 102 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 5: your starter. So I think it'll be beneficial for the 103 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 5: Colts with the Bengals upcoming to have seen how Jacksonville 104 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 5: played them. Yep, also with the Colts played Jacksonville too, 105 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 5: so there's that commonality in all of it. Then also 106 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: having an opportunity with a few weeks to see what 107 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 5: Mitchell Trubisky does with Pittsburgh. So you like where the 108 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 5: Colts are right now in being able to game plan 109 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 5: for these backup quarterbacks and having at least some sample 110 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 5: size to work from, rather than if it were a 111 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 5: situation that one of these guys were coming in mid game. 112 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: Right. 113 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: Yes, No, I think that's a really good point. And 114 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: I mean, at this point in the season, opposition knows 115 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 4: what Gardner Minshew is. They know what this offense is 116 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: going to be, and the Colts are now they want 117 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: four games in a row, and. 118 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 5: There were questions of what will this offense look like 119 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 5: now without john Nathan Taylor because you had had a 120 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 5: lot of that mix of Moss and jt. Now, obviously 121 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 5: with the game plan from the Titans was to stop 122 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 5: the running game, Now, how does that adapt moving forward? 123 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 5: And kind of what do this offense look like without 124 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 5: Jonathan For a couple of weeks. 125 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: They stopped the run game, but they couldn't stop Alec 126 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 4: Pearson Michael Pittman, right, So that opened up some things 127 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 4: in the passing game. It's there's so much to be 128 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 4: decided right now. But I pulled up the New York 129 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 4: Times their playoff odds, and the Colts still have the 130 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: second highest odds to earn a wild card spot among 131 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 4: those contenders. The Texans are at eighty two percent. They're 132 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: the highest then, but then the Colts are bunched right 133 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 4: up there at sixty percent, with the Steelers at fifty 134 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: four percent, the Browns at fifty three percent, the Broncos 135 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 4: at twenty three percent, the Bills at fifteen percent, and 136 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 4: the Bengals at ten percent. So it's all over the place, 137 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 4: and like these things change, they're just wild swings. No 138 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: one thought the Steelers were going to lose to the 139 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: Cardinals on Sunday. 140 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: Right right, absolutely? 141 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 5: And then the the thing worth noting about Houston is, 142 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 5: I know, not a quarterback, but they've lost Tank Dell, 143 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 5: who was having a tremendous rookie season. So how does 144 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 5: that impact their offense? You know, what what are what 145 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 5: are the Houston What are the Houstons? What are the 146 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: Texans going to look? Like the same deal when they 147 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 5: come into Lucas Loyl Stadium in January, and the magnitude 148 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 5: of what the implications from that game could be or monstrous. 149 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: The this is just like I have so many different 150 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: thoughts about this, but the thing that I keep going 151 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: back to with the Colts specifically is they have certain 152 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: things that they can lean on. And like you caught 153 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: up with the EJ Speed after the game, and something 154 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 4: that he said was like, when we win games like this, 155 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: it just it grows the belief in the locker room. 156 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 4: Like when you win a game where like ten things 157 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 4: happened that were you like, I've never seen that before. 158 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: And you know, Julian Blackman losing a fumble that he recovered, 159 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: h Gardner Minshew almost throwing an inner reception with twenty 160 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: seconds to go in the game. Just all over the 161 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 4: place in this game, the pick two block punts, two 162 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 4: block punts. There's so much it happened, though most technically 163 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 4: I think a fumble, Yeah one was technically a fumble. 164 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, semantics at this point. 165 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: But when you win games like that, there's just like 166 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: and I talked about this with Bill Brooks on Instant Reaction, 167 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: but there's just something like you've been around teams that 168 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: have made runs that they just have that like that 169 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: factor of they believe they're going to win any game 170 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 4: they're in, and that starts to then manifest itself. That's 171 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 4: a real thing. You can you can be less talented 172 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: than certain teams in this playoff race, but if you 173 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 4: have that belief, that usually actually winds up overcoming just 174 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 4: pure talent. 175 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 5: I also think it comes down to the preparation and 176 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 5: how you prepare the guys to go into each of 177 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 5: these scenarios and prepare them for regardless of what the 178 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 5: circumstances are. 179 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: This is how we're going to adapt. 180 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 5: And I think that's one of the things that the 181 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 5: Colts have done so well over the course of this season, 182 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,119 Speaker 5: especially over that stretch of November and now into December, 183 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 5: when you have what are we at, four straight wins. 184 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: Four straight wins, four straight wins without Rover Stewart by 185 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: the way. 186 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 5: By the way, that's also the longest active win streak 187 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 5: in the AFC, tied for the longest active win streak 188 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 5: in the NFL, alongside a couple of casual teams named 189 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 5: the Niners and the Cowboys. 190 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think are probably the two best teams in 191 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 4: the NFL. I would I would stake my claim that 192 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: we'll see who wins this weekend between the Eagles and Cowboys. 193 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: But those are right now, right, I'm picking those two teams. Yeah, 194 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: that's pretty good, pretty good company, pretty strong. And this 195 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 4: Colts team, like they just they have this kind of 196 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 4: it factor on offense, where I think that leans into 197 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: Michael Pittman junior right now, where he's playing at an 198 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 4: incredibly high level. But then on defense, the Colts are 199 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 4: second in the NFL in sacks with forty two. And 200 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: now you're adding Grover Stewart back in. I was listening 201 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 4: to The Athletic Football Show with Robert Mays and Nate 202 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: tight So I think do a great job breaking down 203 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 4: the league, and they said something about the Colts like, yeah, 204 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: their front isn't very physical against the run, and I 205 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 4: just like screamed in my car, that's because Grover Stewart 206 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: hasn't been in there. Now Grover Stewart is back, if 207 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: you can get back to being a top ten run defense, 208 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 4: which of the Colts were when Grove was in there, Yeah, 209 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: and you're adding in, you're now a top two team 210 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: in sacks. That's a pretty good combination for this front 211 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: to go after. 212 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 5: But one thing I will add, and I'm gonna have 213 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 5: to pull up my notes really quickly here from Sunday's game. 214 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: I asked DeForest Buckner about this last week. It was 215 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 5: just about the opportunity this has been for other guys, 216 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 5: other rotational guys on the defensive line two step up 217 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 5: and get valuable reps in place of Grover Stewart. There's 218 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 5: no replacing Grover Stewart, but it has been such a 219 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 5: valuable opportunity for guys to be thrust into those situations 220 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 5: with very, very tough matchups like a Derrick Henry just 221 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 5: last week. And I think that that is going to 222 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 5: help this Colts team going into a playoff push, because. 223 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 3: You do have some confidence. 224 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 5: You have guys who have had reps when as you 225 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 5: are trying to rotate guys through and keep that defensive 226 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 5: front fresh, you have guys who have stepped up in 227 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 5: significant circumstances to play really, really well for you. I'm 228 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 5: looking to find the quote really quickly from DeForest, but 229 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 5: you scroll down for except nineteen pages of notes. 230 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 4: I mean the amount of notes that you take before 231 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: games is like it is Wow. 232 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: It's well, I appreciate you, he said. 233 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 5: With him being down, it's definitely allowed guys to step 234 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 5: up and play a lot more, a lot more than 235 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 5: they expected to play, and that's been really good for 236 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,479 Speaker 5: us on the defensive line. The biggest thing is experience, 237 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 5: getting those guys reps and that experience. Obviously, missing Grove 238 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 5: has been tremendous, a tremendous void for us. Those guys 239 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 5: have done a good job taking on the challenge, stepping 240 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 5: up and continuing to grow and become better players throughout 241 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 5: the year. 242 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 4: So now when they need to rotate in for Grover 243 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 4: Stewart or DeForest Buckner during the season, they have experience. 244 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: It's not gonna be their first time. That's very, very important. 245 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 4: All Right, we've waited long enough. Let's get to Jim 246 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: Bob Cooter here. We had a blast talking to Jim 247 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: Bob last week, Lara. He's such a such a great 248 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: personality in this league and a guy who's Shane Stikeen. 249 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 4: The reason why we wanted to bring Jim Bob back 250 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 4: is that Shane stike In last week said it's only 251 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 4: a matter of time before he starts getting head coach 252 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: consideration again. So here's our interview with Jim Bob Cooter, 253 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator of the Colts. All right, joining us 254 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: here on the official Colts podcast. It's Colts offensive coordinator 255 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 4: Jim Bob Cooter. Jim Bob, thanks for taking some time here. 256 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 4: I know you've just finished up a busy week preparing 257 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 4: for the Tennessee Titans, but we just kind of wanted 258 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 4: to dive into a little bit about your coaching career 259 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: and what this year has been like for you. Just 260 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: start right off the bat, like, who do you count 261 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 4: as some of the biggest influences when you think about 262 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 4: your coaching career to date. 263 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, appreciate you guys having me. You know what 264 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 6: kind of grew up here in Indianapolis, you know, so 265 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 6: Tom Moore, Clyde Christensen, Jim Called, oh, Howard Mudd, those 266 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 6: were those were the coaches back then that really got 267 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 6: me indoctrinated in the NFL. And I learned so much 268 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 6: from them, And I'd be I'd be lying if I 269 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 6: didn't say I learned a lot from Peyton Manning as 270 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 6: well when I was here and then sort of going 271 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 6: on our journeys that we all go on and as 272 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 6: coaches in the NFL, you ended up being around a 273 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 6: ton of coaches, learning a ton of stuff and just 274 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 6: trying to pick up something or as much as you 275 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 6: can from all of them. So, whether that's you know, 276 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 6: Brian Dabole and Nick Sirianni in Kansas City, Adam Gasee, 277 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 6: John Fox and Denver going to Detroit back with Jim 278 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 6: Caldwell and then a bunch of really good coaches there, 279 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 6: kind of bouncing around all over the league and learning 280 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 6: as much as I can. Obviously meeting up with Shane 281 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 6: Steichen in Philadelphia and then even down in Jacksonville last year, 282 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 6: the bitter Division rival of our Jacksonville Jaguars, but some 283 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 6: you know, some real good coaches there and learned a 284 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 6: ton from Doug Peterson and Press Taylor and Phil Rauser 285 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 6: and a bunch of those guys. So been lucky enough 286 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 6: to be around a bunch of really good coach and 287 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 6: have tried to tried to soak up a lot of 288 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 6: information as I go. 289 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 4: Let me say, that's that's a lot to kind of have. 290 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: Are you like a note taker of like, hey, you know, 291 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: I noticed this thing or there's this one thing that 292 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: maybe Jim Caldwell did that. I really like her. Do 293 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: you just kind of store it up in your brain 294 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 4: and kind of access it when you need. 295 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've probably gotten better over the years of taking 296 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 6: those notes and and you know, try to always obviously 297 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 6: as you as you're as you're in this yearly thing, 298 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 6: this season deal. You know, we're taking our notes each 299 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 6: week to beat the Tennessee Titans this week and next 300 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 6: week it'll be, you know, different opponent. We're working to 301 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 6: kind of accomplish that job one week at a time 302 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 6: and have tried to kind of come up with ways 303 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 6: that have that have been a little bit better sort 304 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 6: of long term note taking, which I you know, I 305 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 6: think I've gotten a little bit better at as as 306 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 6: I've gone through my career. But it's like we talked 307 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 6: to the players about, you know, you got to you 308 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 6: gotta make those notes in the moment. You got to 309 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 6: go execute in the moment. But you hope, you hope 310 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 6: you're retaining some of that stuff from training camp and OTAs. 311 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 6: And it's no different for us as coaches. You don't 312 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 6: want to lose something you learned five years ago, so 313 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 6: we try to try to carry that over with us 314 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 6: I gotta you know, got a little little bit of 315 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 6: a plan that seems to work okay, but always trying 316 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 6: to find find fun ways to improve it. 317 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 5: One of the most valuable aspects of overlapping with so 318 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: many guys over the course of a career, those who 319 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 5: have such an impact on you, is also learning about 320 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 5: guys who you would and would not want to work 321 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 5: with later, you know, in other opportunities moving forward in 322 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 5: your career. When you first had the opportunity to coach 323 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 5: with Shane Stike in what was something about him that 324 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 5: indicated to you not only is this guy going to 325 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 5: get a head coaching opportunity in the league, but also, man, 326 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 5: this is a guy who I would love to join 327 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 5: on the staff and I feel like that we could 328 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 5: build something special in an offense together. 329 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, great question. 330 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 6: I mean, in Philly, the year I was there, I 331 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 6: was lucky enough to have a role where I could 332 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 6: really really watch the staff in action, watch those guys work, 333 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 6: sort of see how Shane thought about different aspects of 334 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 6: the game, which is always always valuable to sort of 335 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 6: sort of see how guys see how guys see things 336 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 6: and think about things. And that was really eye opening 337 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 6: to meet us to hear a few things that he 338 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 6: said that were, you know, really good points maybe I 339 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 6: hadn't thought of before. But really the thing that's most 340 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 6: exciting is just Shane's boy, day after day, day in, 341 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 6: day out demeanor, just coming to office, coming to the office, 342 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 6: coming to work, you know, putting in a good work day, 343 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 6: going into the next good work day, not letting you know, 344 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 6: we're gonna have these moments in practice where we make 345 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 6: a mistake on offense or maybe game day, we make 346 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 6: our mistake, and as coaches, we always coach that and 347 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 6: sometimes we get animated. 348 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 349 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 6: Shane has done such a great job of you know 350 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 6: sort of you know we we we coach that play, 351 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 6: we coach that mistake, and then we're just on to 352 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 6: the next one. 353 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a good day the next day. 354 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 6: We're gonna have a good uh period, the next practice period. 355 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 6: We're gonna you know, he just kind of keeps us 356 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 6: going in a good direction. That was evident in Philadelphia, 357 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 6: and that was that's that's that's the type of guy 358 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 6: you like to work for because you know your your 359 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 6: your tomorrow is not necessarily influenced by how well today goes. 360 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 6: You're able to sort of fill those good days and 361 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 6: you know that, hey, we're gonna clean up this mistake. 362 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 6: We're gonna show up to work tomorrow, put in another 363 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 6: good day. Not gonna be a such such a negative 364 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 6: environment that you can find somewhere in the league. 365 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 5: And Shane had said just recently, you know, mentioning how 366 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 5: collaborative the process is and how much he enjoys the 367 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 5: process of the. 368 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: Week and what you guys are able to do in 369 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: game planning. 370 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 5: What is the dynamic between you guys, like in terms 371 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 5: of building the offense, game planning all of that with 372 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 5: his being head coach and offensive play caller, but you're 373 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 5: also in the role as offensive coordinator. 374 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think it's the job of our 375 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 6: you know, entire offensive coaching staff to support Shane as 376 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 6: the as the play caller. I've always kind of felt 377 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 6: the guy that calls the play, you know, gosh, on 378 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 6: game day, he's he's really he's in the action, he's 379 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 6: in the game, he's in the moment. 380 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: We're we're here to help him. 381 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 6: So as we set up our weekly schedule, as we 382 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 6: set up the way we sort of game plan different situations, 383 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 6: game plan different areas, Uh, you know, Shane works with us. 384 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 6: We work with him in a lot of different areas. 385 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 6: You know, ultimately it's going to be his final call. Gosh, 386 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 6: I like play. 387 00:17:59,080 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: A and B. 388 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 6: Maybe Shane likes play B, C and D. I might 389 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 6: try to get play A in. I might try to 390 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 6: sell it a little bit. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. 391 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 6: But ultimately, you know, I think the play caller has 392 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 6: earned the right to kind of have those plays he 393 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 6: really believes in in So it's. 394 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: It's it's our job. 395 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 6: You know, it's my job as offensive coordinator, but like 396 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 6: I said, it's our entire staff is working some facet 397 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 6: of this where we're going to try to sort of 398 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 6: flush out as many good ideas as we can talk 399 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 6: about them, and then ultimately we're going to put the best. 400 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: Ones on the sheet. 401 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 6: And Shane kind of is always going to have the 402 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 6: tiebreaker being the play caller, which. 403 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 4: You should situationally, how collaborative is that process, you know, 404 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 4: thinking about like Shane's saying that Tom Manning was the 405 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 4: one who came up with the past to mo against 406 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 4: the Buccaneers. He got Zaire in there, the heavy play 407 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 4: action that that was kind of where that idea came from. 408 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 4: Like when when you talk about third down, red zone, 409 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 4: short yardage, backed up all those different situations, Like how 410 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 4: collaborative is that process and with the entire coaching staff. 411 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of our a lot of our work. 412 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 6: It's been a really good process this year. A lot 413 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 6: of our work. Every group works together a little bit different. 414 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 6: Every group works individually a little bit different. I would say, 415 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 6: a lot of our work. You know, we may go 416 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 6: into separate offices, do our own research, do our own 417 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 6: whether it's short yardage, whether it's red zone, whether it's 418 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 6: two minute. You know, every every coach sort of has 419 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 6: certain areas they're involved in pretty heavily in that. We'll 420 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 6: sort of spend our time game planning that and then 421 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 6: come together and discuss our ideas. So, you know, whether 422 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 6: it's Tom Manning bringing up a great short yardage idea 423 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 6: or you know, somebody coming in with a great red 424 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 6: zone idea, we we sort of have our time where 425 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 6: we're able to go do that work on our own. 426 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 6: Then we get together as a group. Gosh, let's talk 427 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 6: through them all that we We always kind of have 428 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 6: too many, right, you always have too many ideas. You 429 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 6: can't put them all in we got to have that discussion. 430 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 6: Sometimes one of them in particular catches your eye, especially 431 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 6: catches Shane's eye like that one. Kind of that one 432 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 6: kind of lit him up. He was he was excited 433 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 6: about that one. And that's that's part of the collaborative process. 434 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 6: You know, Hey, let's come in there with as many 435 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 6: ideas as we can, and then ultimately we know there's 436 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 6: only so many you can call in a game. There's 437 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 6: only so many you can get the practice reps up, 438 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 6: so we have to be smart about how many of 439 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 6: those we put on the sheet. But gosh, let's all 440 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 6: bring good ideas in there, and then we'll see if 441 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 6: we can't find find a few first downs and touchdowns 442 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 6: in there. 443 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: Jim, I'm curious about this. At the start of your career, 444 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 4: you worked with Peyton Manning, you know, indeed Denver. Then 445 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: you worked with Matthew Stafford, two guys who were established 446 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 4: by the time you got to work with them. Last 447 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 4: two years, Trevor Lawrence in year two. Now this year 448 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 4: you developed an offense for Anthony Richardson in year one. 449 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 4: Obviously that's now shifted to Gardner. Minshew more of a 450 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 4: veteran there. But I was working with younger quarterbacks challenged 451 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: you as a coach, you know, to provide things that 452 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 4: maybe you didn't have to provide a Stafford or a 453 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: Manning earlier in your career. 454 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's you know, it's been really good to 455 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 6: get work with a bunch of different guys. Obviously, when 456 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 6: I showed up here with Peyton Manning, you know, shoot, 457 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 6: I was, I was. 458 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: I was the bright eyed rookie, you know. I was. 459 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 6: I was young and learning, and as a quality control coach, 460 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 6: you learn so much and you do so much work. 461 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: I was. 462 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 6: I was learning so much from Peyton, and sort of 463 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 6: maybe later later in our experience together, especially maybe in Denver, 464 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 6: I was able to sort of maybe give give a 465 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 6: little bit back. But then with Stafford, obviously an established 466 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 6: fed who's seen a ton of ball and retain so much. 467 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 6: He understands and and remembers so much. There are a 468 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 6: lot of shortcuts you can take with a veteran quarterback. Hey, 469 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford, this is just like such and such you 470 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 6: guys ran before we got here. Y'all called it this, 471 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 6: and you ran it like this, and you know we're 472 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 6: going to shorten that one route by a yard or two. 473 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: But that's the same thing. 474 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 6: Read it the same way when you're with you know, 475 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 6: young quarterbacks from different backgrounds, different college programs. Uh, you know, 476 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 6: the shortcuts don't exist. You need to sort of you 477 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 6: need to sort of flesh out the details in every 478 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 6: every football play, every progression, every detail that there's a 479 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 6: million details in quarterbacking. But you get to sort of 480 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 6: start from start from ground zero, start from first principles, 481 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 6: and just sort of sort of build the information that 482 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 6: you're teaching those guys and try to build it in 483 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 6: the right manner, which is exciting. 484 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 1: Right. 485 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 6: You don't skip step two, don't go step one to 486 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 6: step three. You got to hit every single step. Let's 487 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 6: not forget about this because maybe he's never gotten that 488 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 6: rep against such and such a coverage, whereas maybe with 489 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 6: a with an eight or ten year vet, you can say, gosh, 490 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 6: this guy knows cover two. You never throw it to 491 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 6: such and such, you know. 492 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: So, all right, we're talking about Peyton Manning. Have people 493 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: pointed out. 494 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 5: That you and Peyton have a similar like cadence in 495 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: your voice, You guys kind of sounds similar in press 496 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 5: conferences because earlier in the season we were all listening, 497 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 5: We're like, oh my gosh, Jimbob kind of sounds like Peyton. 498 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 3: There's a similarity there. 499 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: And it's funny because we had Coach Stike and miked 500 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 5: up a couple weeks ago, and there are some similarities 501 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 5: between the Gollies and the you know that we knew 502 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 5: from from phillip Rivers. 503 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: Have people pointed that out? Have you found that yourself? 504 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: That is the first time. 505 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 6: I think it's uh, it's a University of Tennessee thing. 506 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 6: I think that's you know, we we the the schooling's 507 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 6: pretty high level down there, so we've we've probably received 508 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 6: a lot of the same media training from bud Ford 509 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 6: and some of those guys down there. We got some 510 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 6: got some great media training back in the day. But 511 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 6: now I hadn't hadn't heard that I have to keep 512 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 6: an eye on it. Might have to switch some things 513 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 6: up on everybody. It's good to know. 514 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 5: We'll work our editing magic a little little manning Jimbob 515 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 5: mashup for potentially with everything the adversity. 516 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: That you guys have been through this season. 517 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 5: Of course, you know, not having Jonathan to start the season, 518 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 5: suffered of course the injury last week. You have everything 519 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 5: that we went through with Anthony Richardson as well man 520 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 5: offensive line too. I feel like that's almost been not recognized, 521 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 5: not underrecognized, but something that has somewhat flown under the radar. 522 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 5: With the rotation that you've had Wesley French stepping in 523 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 5: at center in a number of position you'd have Blake 524 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 5: Freeland in both on the left and the right side. 525 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: How have those. 526 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 5: Challenges, the obstacles that are inevitable in you know, any 527 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 5: NFL season, how have those helped you guys evolve as 528 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 5: an offense with all of the different moving hearts that 529 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 5: you've had and the different guys who have stepped up 530 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 5: in a number of critical situations. 531 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, great question. 532 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 6: I mean it's something that I think in the course 533 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 6: of an NFL season, you're really lucky if you find 534 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 6: yourself not in those situations. 535 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: You end up it ends up happening. 536 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 6: All over the league, all over the field, in different 537 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 6: position rooms and all that. You know, guys miss a 538 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 6: few weeks here and there. You hope a guy can 539 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 6: miss a few weeks and he's on his way back. 540 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 6: And for instance, you talked about Blake Friedland. You know, 541 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 6: Blake Friedland gets to play a few games, and gosh, 542 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 6: he gets better and better as he plays those games. Now, 543 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 6: if if Blake Freeland's got to play the next game, 544 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 6: you feel like, gosh, he has gotten better as the 545 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 6: year goes on. We've seen that from him, and that's 546 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 6: that's been you know, guys get better in practice. You're 547 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 6: supposed to. That's what we're gonna do. At a certain point, 548 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 6: you only practicing pad so much. The football is a 549 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 6: little bit different than than game day football. So you 550 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 6: have a little more confidence in a guy that's played 551 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 6: two or three good games. Leslie French played a few 552 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 6: good games up there, you go, gosh, if French is 553 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 6: in there, we're just fine, go play good football again, 554 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 6: you know. So it's that way with a lot of positions. 555 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 6: You end up building, you hope, building a little better depth, 556 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 6: a little more depth, just because gosh, there are more 557 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 6: reps to be had at certain positions. Ultimately, you know, 558 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 6: we play seventeen regular season games. You'd love to play, gosh, 559 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 6: you love to keep everybody healthy and play everybody all seventeen. 560 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 6: It's just not the reality of the of the league. 561 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 6: But you know, opportunities sometimes get created for other guys 562 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 6: and throughout this league, I've seen a bunch of guys 563 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 6: take advantage of those opportunities and you know, make make 564 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 6: the team better, make themselves better, and and and really 565 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 6: really go from there. So, uh, it's part of it. 566 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 6: It's part of the yearly process. And we're we're we're 567 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 6: hopeful and sort of excited that we think it's built 568 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 6: some depth and we're and we're we're heading a good 569 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 6: direction because of it. Having said all that, we hope 570 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 6: everybody's on their way back to health soon. You know, 571 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 6: that's that's kind of the ultimate hope. 572 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 5: How rewarding though, is it for you as a coach 573 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 5: when you, you know, maybe do have a guy who 574 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 5: finally gets an opportunity and he does rise to the occasion. 575 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 5: When you see a guy who steadily improves over the 576 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 5: course of the week, when he's thrust into a difficult 577 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 5: situation that you know, maybe came a little bit sooner 578 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 5: than what he initially may have been prepared for. 579 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really cool, really cool, because these guys put 580 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 6: in so so much work. When you're not maybe not 581 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 6: playing on game day, maybe you don't get recognized for it. 582 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 6: Your family, your friends. Gosh, how's it going up there. 583 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 6: We don't see you playing all that much. But these 584 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 6: guys are working so hard, maybe scout team, maybe sort 585 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 6: of some reps here and there during the week, and 586 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 6: to see guys sort of sort of take advantage of 587 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 6: those opportunity, it's a testament to their hard works, a 588 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 6: testament to you know, probably what got most of them 589 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 6: in the league in the first place, putting that work in, 590 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 6: And honestly, it's a testament to their position coaches. A 591 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 6: lot of those guys probably don't get the credit they 592 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 6: deserve when, you know, when when a when a backup 593 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 6: player comes in because a starting player has gotten injured, 594 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 6: you know, and that backup player plays well, a lot 595 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 6: of credit is deserved by that backup player being ready 596 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 6: to go and getting him so helf ready for that 597 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 6: game action. But those position coaches deserve some some some 598 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 6: some love as well for for all the work they've 599 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 6: put in to get them to that point. And it 600 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 6: does happen so much in this league, and it's so 601 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 6: so good to see it. You've seen those examples over 602 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 6: and over through the years, where you know, a guy 603 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 6: makes a big catch, or a guy's able to step 604 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 6: in and play offensive line and you don't miss a 605 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 6: beat maybe, uh, and he just plays such good football 606 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 6: and we're we're we're always excited when when guys have 607 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 6: their opportunity to do that. 608 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 4: A couple of years ago, you were, you know, young 609 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 4: OC at the Detroit Lions play caller there. That offense 610 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 4: is rolling, you know, especially early on in your tenure there. 611 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 4: You've kind of had to work your way back to 612 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 4: become an offensive coordinator going to New York, going to Philly, Jacksonville. 613 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: What do you know now as an offensive coordinator that 614 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 4: maybe you I don't know if you wish you knew 615 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 4: back in the first time around, or what sort of 616 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 4: wisdom have you gained over these lead years now as 617 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 4: an OC again? 618 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, hopeful hopefully a lot, hopefully quite a bit. You 619 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 6: know this, this this game of football is is it's 620 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 6: a complex game. There's a lot of stuff you can 621 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 6: learn and a lot of stuff. You know, Gosh, we're 622 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 6: on our players trying to coach these guys to learn 623 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 6: a lot about the game. Could be what we're doing offensively, 624 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 6: what the defense is doing, and how that can help 625 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 6: them play a little bit better. Well, there's there's a 626 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 6: lot of there's a lot that coaches get better throughout 627 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 6: their career as well. 628 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: It's something that I think. 629 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 6: I think I've tried to do a good job of 630 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 6: the last four or five years and been putting some 631 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 6: different roles which have ultimately been really beneficial for me, 632 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 6: sort of seeing different side of the game being a 633 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 6: running back coach and maybe diving a little deeper into 634 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 6: the run game or some of the technique specific things 635 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 6: of the run game that maybe I hadn't hadn't dove 636 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 6: into as a quarterback coach or an offensive coordinator at 637 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 6: that time, and then being able to be in Philadelphia 638 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 6: and sort of sort of watch those guys do their 639 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 6: work while I was helping, but I wasn't sort of 640 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 6: hands on active. I was able to sort of take 641 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 6: that sort of ten thousand foot view and just sort 642 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 6: of hopefully improve and get better, and like we talked 643 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 6: about earlier, maybe make a few of those notes that 644 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 6: that wepe we hope carries over as the career moves forward. 645 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 5: One of the things looking at, especially with the offense, 646 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 5: has been able to accomplish this season. What ten games 647 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 5: this season you've scored twenty points or more. You're now 648 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 5: right in the thick of it in the month of December. 649 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: When you look at that group, what. 650 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 5: Is most exciting to you about the opportunity that they 651 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 5: have and what they have the potential to do coming 652 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 5: off of you know, those three straight wins, you know, 653 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 5: stacking wins and getting into position where. 654 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: You're playing your best football at the right time. 655 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, that that that, that's what's most exciting. You play 656 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 6: early in the year so that you're playing meaningful football 657 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 6: in November and December. You know, we got to that 658 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 6: point in November, we started playing a little bit better, 659 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 6: we got winning games. November went pretty well. Now we're 660 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 6: going into December and it's it's all out ahead of 661 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 6: us here. 662 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: We got it. 663 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 6: We got a push to make along the final the 664 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 6: final sort of stretch of this season to hopefully make 665 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 6: that playoff push. And offensively, we've got gotta improve our 666 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 6: play along with that, because along with the games getting 667 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 6: a little bit bigger, sometimes you gotta you gotta, you 668 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 6: gotta improve that play a little bit better. 669 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: You gotta make one less mistake. 670 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 6: You gotta make one more great catch or great block 671 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 6: or great throw. It's it's it's an exciting time of 672 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 6: year being able to get into that mode where you're 673 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 6: playing really important football late in the year when it 674 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 6: gets cold and rainy and it's snowing and you know, 675 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 6: it's nasty out. That's you're playing good football at that 676 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 6: time of year and it's really important. That's really fun, 677 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 6: and we hope our guys are going to have fun 678 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 6: doing that. We're going to go attack that challenge and 679 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 6: uh hopefully we we hope hope our fans get to 680 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 6: come to some exciting games, some sort of big games 681 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 6: here where you know, gosh, we really need to win 682 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 6: this game. We need the fans to be loud. Those 683 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 6: are the most fun games, So we were hoping for 684 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 6: some of those. 685 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 4: What do those feel like as a coach, Like when 686 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: you're on the sideline and you're you're kind of you're 687 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 4: in it in those moments in those big games in December. 688 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really really cool. You know, it's kind of 689 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: what we're in it for. 690 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 6: You want to get into the biggest of the big 691 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 6: games and go do your job at a really high level, 692 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 6: go perform on game day. You know, obviously the players 693 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 6: are out there, they're running routes, they're running the ball, 694 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 6: they're throwing catching. Coaches we have our job to do 695 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 6: on game day as well, and it's you know, it's 696 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 6: all on us to do that really, really well. You know, 697 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 6: we may we may have a little a little smaller 698 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 6: impact than the starting quarterback or something on game. 699 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: Day, but we have a little role in that game 700 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: and we want to do it really well. 701 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 6: And it's it's exciting to have the challenge of gosh, 702 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 6: I need to be Sunday, I need to be sharp, 703 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 6: I need to be on it, you know. And that's 704 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 6: that's what I think the really good coaches in this 705 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 6: league do. 706 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: They show up on game day. 707 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 6: Sort of sort of ready to have a great day 708 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 6: and ready to be really on really on top of 709 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 6: whatever their job is for that staff. 710 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 4: All right, Jim Bob Cooter, thanks so much for joining 711 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: us here. We really appreciating time, and good luck the 712 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: rest of the season. 713 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it, guys. 714 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 4: Thanks to Colts offensive coordinator Jim Bob Cooter for coming 715 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 4: back here. He sat in that seat. We kind of 716 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 4: shifted it around. We had three people. So for our 717 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 4: YouTube viewers, sorry for the little change up in. 718 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: That movie Magic. I am not Jim Bob Cooter. 719 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: You're not. 720 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: I'm not. I would like to be there. 721 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 4: I mean you, he's pretty tall. Jimbob's a big guy. 722 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 4: He is a big well, he's a quarterback, right from 723 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: a quarterback. I mean, I saw there's someone who Jimbob 724 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: played with in college who's like still in the NFL. 725 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: I think it's a long snapper. 726 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: Wow. 727 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to go go back and find that one. 728 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 4: But okay, So Jim Bob's interesting, Lara, because I remember 729 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 4: when I was covering the Bears and in the NFC North, 730 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 4: when when they were rolling with Matt Stafford in Detroit, 731 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 4: and it was like, all right, Jim Bob Cooter is 732 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 4: one of those like rising coaching candidates, and then things 733 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 4: got off the rails in Detroit. Matt Patricia got there 734 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 4: through no fault of Jim bres. 735 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: Right exactly, my seat mate, I feel like I have 736 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: to defend here. 737 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 4: Matt Patricia got there. That did not go the way 738 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 4: Detroit I think thought it would. Matthew Stafford got hurt 739 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 4: a couple of times, and then all of a sudden, 740 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 4: Jimbob has to go on this kind of journey to 741 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 4: rebuild his career, which is not an easy thing to do. 742 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 4: But he talked on it about how going to be 743 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 4: the running backs coach for the New York Jets. Helped 744 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 4: him out, and then he kind of takes this broader 745 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 4: view as a consultant with the Eagles, and then he's 746 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 4: a passing game coordinator with the Jaguars and comes here. 747 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 5: That role with the Eagles is what introduced him to Shane, right, 748 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 5: And that's obvious something that we touched on. There is 749 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 5: the dynamic that they forged and created from that opportunity. 750 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 4: But I think the experience is now the people he's 751 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 4: worked with since his career kind of hit a bit 752 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 4: of a skid again for really no fault of his own, 753 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 4: really benefit him right now as the Colts are game 754 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 4: planning and he is in this role where you know 755 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 4: a lot of people ask right like as the offensive 756 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 4: coordinator who doesn't call plays, like what do you do? 757 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 4: But what he said I thought was a great answer 758 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 4: of you know, you support the play caller. You all 759 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 4: kind of collaborate on stuff and you bring ideas together. 760 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 4: And he has a big role in that. 761 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 5: And I also notice, because of my vantage point on 762 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 5: game bays, I'm down on the sidelines doing radio. So 763 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 5: Shane is obviously looking compreh at the entire game. He's 764 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 5: of course engaging with the offense at certain periods of time, 765 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 5: but it has to be pretty limited because he's looking 766 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 5: at everything, looking at do you know if he should 767 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 5: throw a challenge flag, He's watching the defense, he's doing 768 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 5: you know, all those different things over the course of 769 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 5: the game. 770 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 2: So Jim Bob has such a heavy role. 771 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 5: In you know, engaging with and you know, being in 772 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 5: constant communication down the field with the offense as well. 773 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: So it's fun to watch how he works. 774 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 5: On game day and how he operates and his involvement 775 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 5: in working with all of those guys down there on 776 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 5: the field, you know, especially especially with the quarterbacks. 777 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody plays a part. And when he put up 778 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 4: thirty one points against the Titans on the road, like 779 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: the Colts did, everyone's got a part. 780 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 5: What now, eleven games with twenty points are more of 781 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 5: the season, is that right? 782 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 4: There's only been the only game that didn't was the 783 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 4: Patriots game. Yes, in Germany. 784 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 2: How we would forget? 785 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 4: Hey, that was a win. I'm not forgetting it. Patriots 786 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 4: probably want to forget. 787 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: It forgetting you see, not forgetting either. 788 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 4: Quick you see what happened with the Patriots over the 789 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 4: weekend six to nothing. 790 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: To the charge. Oh, I sure did. 791 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 792 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 4: The Patriots Steelers game that's coming up, okay on Thursday 793 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 4: night might be one of the lowest scoring games of 794 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 4: the year. Like even to that point, it's gonna look 795 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 4: like like an Iowa game potentially because Bill Belichick can 796 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 4: still coordinate the heck out of a defense. But Steelers 797 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 4: offense gonna have to go to Mitch Trubisky in that game. 798 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 4: It's gonna be interesting. 799 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 5: It will, yeah, will be And I mean Steelers are 800 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 5: dealing with, you know, injuries as well, like aside from 801 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 5: Kenny Pickett. 802 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: Yep. 803 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: So it's tough. It's a tough week to be on 804 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: a short week. 805 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 3: There's never a good week to be in a short week, 806 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 3: but especially tough. 807 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 5: One thing I asked Shane about also in our conversation 808 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 5: yesterday was how much truth there is to catching a 809 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 5: team on a short week. Because Cincinnati, although they got 810 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 5: the win on Monday night football, you got to fly 811 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 5: back from Jacksonville. Now you only have, you know, you 812 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 5: have a short turnaround to get ready for a home game. 813 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 5: And he said, you know, it's you know, an interesting question. 814 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 5: There are things that you can kind of look into 815 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 5: and try to exploit about that, but totally just still 816 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 5: comes down to preparation, game planning, practice. 817 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 3: All of that. 818 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 5: But I do think that is an interesting factor of 819 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 5: this game upcoming right well. 820 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 4: And then the flip side of that is the Steelers 821 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 4: will have extra rest going into Week fifteen against the Colts, 822 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 4: while the Colts will be on a shorter week going 823 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 4: into that game. So how can you manage all this stuff? 824 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 4: And I mean, the one thing I just keep going 825 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 4: back to, there's so much weird stuff that's still going 826 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 4: to happen in the playoff race these next five games. 827 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 4: Just weird stuff is going to happen. Just wonky things 828 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 4: are going to be all over. The Steelers lost to 829 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 4: the Cardinals by two touchdowns in a game that got 830 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 4: delayed twice by weather. Yeah, sure that sounds about right. 831 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 4: Just stuff like that, or games like the Colts had 832 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 4: against the Titans, like just Julian Blackman recovering a fumble 833 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 4: and then losing it. You have two blocked punts, one 834 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 4: that wasn't technically a blocked punt, but then in between 835 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 4: that you have the Titans having a pick two because 836 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 4: of course, a one hundred yard pick two just why not. 837 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 4: You have garnerment, you almost throwing an interception to end 838 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 4: the game. You have of a lead change in overtime 839 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 4: where the Titans go down and get a field goal, 840 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 4: and then the Colts hit a fifty five yard at 841 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,439 Speaker 4: Alec Pierce, they get Michael Pittman for the game winning 842 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 4: Touchdow like a lead change in overtime would be like, wow, 843 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 4: what a crazy game. But that was like the seventh 844 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 4: weirdest thing that happened. But you also had the trick 845 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 4: play to Kylon grantson trick played. Every team ran, they 846 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 4: both ran trick plays. They were like multiple flea flickers 847 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 4: in this game, because of course there were. That's just 848 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 4: what this season's like right now. 849 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 3: Completely, And I mean, the good. 850 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 5: Part is is that all of the wildness has benefited 851 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 5: the Colts. 852 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 4: It has, and the Colts are doing a really good 853 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 4: job handling that chaos. How do you handle the chaos? 854 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 4: That's the story right now. Your backup quarterbacks all over 855 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 4: the place, guys coming in and out of your starting lineup, 856 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 4: weird wonky. The Bengals throwing two wide receiver passes like 857 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 4: I mentioned and still winning, Just okay, sure, why not? 858 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 4: Let's just throw that one in there for good measure, 859 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 4: like the Bills losing that game to the Eagles where 860 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 4: you have a fifty eight yard field goal and the 861 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 4: driving rain storm that goes into sentences overtime, because yeah, sure, 862 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 4: why not. Exactly, just weird stuff is going to happen. 863 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 4: But the Colts continue to come out of those chaotic 864 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 4: games with wins, and that's what you need in a 865 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 4: playoff race. 866 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 5: Just continue taking your blood pressure medication because the cardiac 867 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 5: cults are in full effect in the month of December 868 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 5: and will continue to be. 869 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 3: So you know, meditation is good. 870 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: You know, stay well hydrated over the course of your games. 871 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 5: And you know, just make sure you keep everything in check, 872 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 5: you know, a little yoga from time to get. 873 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 4: And get a forty ounce Stanley mug and then get 874 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 4: roasted by your friends for it like I do all 875 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 4: the time. Exactly, walk into a meeting with a Stanley 876 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 4: mug on Monday and just I can't believe you got 877 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 4: a Stanley mug. 878 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 5: And then I also like that you call it a 879 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 5: Stanley mug because you won't say Stanley Cup, because the 880 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 5: Stanley Cup to you is specifically the hockey. 881 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 4: It's crazy, but then but then okay, so just to 882 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 4: close up this podcast, I get roasted because I'm like, 883 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 4: I got the legit Stanley Cup. And then I'm like, 884 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 4: you know, I can't believe you have the real Stanley Cup, 885 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 4: you know, basic, And I'm like, Lara, you have a 886 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 4: knockoff one, and I just get everyone there is no 887 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 4: oh way, Lara Overton is a knockoff Stanley Cup. No way, 888 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 4: it's a real thing. 889 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 5: Hey, I if I had the knockoff one, I would 890 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 5: be proud of it. 891 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: I just don't have I received my snap. I'm in Defense. 892 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're on Defense Mob. 893 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: It was a gift I would like. 894 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:14,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. 895 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 5: I mean I also have a lot of drinking receptacles, 896 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 5: so you know, I have a lot of things. I've 897 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 5: got the Turvis tumbler, I got the yettie. I have 898 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 5: an array of them. So it's you know, I'm not 899 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 5: trying to be bougie with the Stanley Cup. I just 900 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 5: like a lot of. 901 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 4: Beverages and it's a great way to stay hydrated, is 902 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 4: the real point I was making. But you know, go 903 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 4: ahead and roast me everyone else for having us a 904 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 4: good Christmas gift, great Christmas holiday gift. 905 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 2: This seasonal stocking stuff for all right. 906 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 4: Well, that's going to do it for this episode of 907 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 4: the Official Cults Podcast presented by Win Las Vegas. The 908 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 4: crew will be back on Thursday, May te Casey and 909 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 4: Bill Brooks with a TBD player. I don't want to 910 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 4: give it away, but the player that they were trying 911 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 4: to get for Thursday maybe the most interesting man on 912 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 4: the team. We'll see, Oh, I think I think you 913 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 4: got an If you got an idea, guess it in 914 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 4: the YouTube comments and then hope that that guy shows 915 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 4: up on Thursday for the podcast. All right, let's going 916 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 4: to do it for us again here on the Official 917 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 4: Cults Podcast presented by Win Las Vegas. For Larra Overton, 918 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 4: I'm j Jos Taketitz, counor handles behind a camera this week. 919 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 4: Thanks for shooting that one, and we'll talk to you 920 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 4: next week here on the Official Colts Podcast.