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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Oh, welcome in here.

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Speaker 2: Hope you're Saturday is off to a fantastic start. We've

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Speaker 2: got NBA on the brain. Also, NFL the schedule being

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Speaker 2: released on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 2: I read something utterly ridiculous about quarterback rankings today. We'll

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Speaker 2: share that with you today. But let's hone it on

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Speaker 2: the NBA if we will, if we shall, hear gents

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Speaker 2: with the Nuggets punching back big time in Game three.

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Speaker 2: They lost Game two Denver did by what twenty six points?

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Speaker 2: They won Game three last night by twenty seven points.

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Speaker 2: So beat down City the last couple of games. And

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Speaker 2: then also the Indiana Pacers, as Isaac Lohencron said, huge,

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Speaker 2: huge deep shot thirty one footer with the score tied

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Speaker 2: with about sixteen seconds to go.

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Speaker 1: Andrew nembhard. So you had Denver punching back.

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Speaker 2: They get the first game of the series, they're still

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Speaker 2: get a game in game three, they're still down to one.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on what's going on here? NBA

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Speaker 2: wise fella, it's good morning to you guys.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning. Yeah, I mean, first and foremost,

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Speaker 3: that felt inevitable. You didn't expect the Timberwolves just to

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Speaker 3: walk through the Nuggets. This is last year's NBA champions.

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Speaker 3: But I didn't expect Minnesota to get blown out in

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Speaker 3: this series, just because of how good their defense looked

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Speaker 3: against Denver over the past two games. So this was

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Speaker 3: an offensive explosion, but also they finally were able to

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Speaker 1: That was the most important part.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't really what Denver did offensively. It's the adjustments

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Speaker 3: obviously it spurred them along to this victory. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what the tail of this series is going to

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Speaker 3: be advantage Minnesota still obviously up two games to one

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Speaker 3: momentum out the gates, but we've got a great series

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Speaker 3: to at least have it be hard, right. You don't

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Speaker 3: want you don't want a juggernaut to just romp through

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Speaker 3: the field. You want to see them be tested along

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Speaker 3: the way. And so if if you were impressed by

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Speaker 3: Denver in their opening series against the Lakers, if you

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Speaker 3: were impressed by Denver last year as they made their

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Speaker 3: on their way to the finals.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is what you want.

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Speaker 3: You want to you want to see it be hard

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Speaker 3: for him, and so far in this second series, it's

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Speaker 4: I'll make this joke once, I won't say it again,

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Speaker 4: But Andrew broke my knemhart last night.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know I had to go there. Take

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Speaker 1: a lab.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, take a lab. You can mute me for

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Speaker 4: the rest of the show if you want. I still

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Speaker 4: get paid the same no matter what. But no, I

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Speaker 4: think the Pacers game. First of all, this niche team

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Speaker 4: just everything's a battle. Like every game they play. You

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Speaker 4: could literally throw five guys from the concession stand out there,

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Speaker 4: and I think tips would get them to battle against

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Speaker 4: the Spacers team. I mean that's just they're just so

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Speaker 4: tough and so gritty. I've never seen anything like the

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Speaker 4: rest is. Like, let's be honest, guys, a lot of

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Speaker 4: these playoff games have been stone cold blowouts on one side.

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Speaker 4: Not the Knicks games. Every single Knicks game is a

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Speaker 4: freaking war. And I think I think they'll win this series.

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Speaker 4: I think they'll they'll move on. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: they're healthy enough to beat the Celtics in a seven gamer.

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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, if they were healthy, man, Boston.

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Speaker 1: Will get to them in a minute.

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Speaker 4: But the Nuggets, Yeah, Like, all I heard the last

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Speaker 1: It's done.

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Speaker 4: And I think people underestimate how long the NBA postseason is.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think the biggest like misconception when we're

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Speaker 4: watching it, and me too, sometimes I've that's all victim

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Speaker 4: regular season as much as you do, Brian.

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Speaker 1: But you watch one of.

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Speaker 4: Those games and the way that it did, especially for

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Speaker 1: But it's one game.

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Speaker 4: It's only twenty five percent of the allotted wins needed

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Speaker 4: Denver's done. They can't win this series. They're the champs

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Speaker 4: for a reason. So I'm not saying it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: don't want to say inevitable, But Denver was gonna win

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Speaker 4: they were gonna push back.

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Speaker 1: Now, the question that.

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Speaker 4: We need to try to answer on this show and

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Speaker 4: you know future shows, is can Minnesota get over the hump?

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Speaker 4: Because they have looked the best team in this postseason, right,

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Speaker 4: but can they finish?

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Speaker 1: That's the question I have being such a young team.

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Speaker 1: You know, we love Charles Barkley.

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Speaker 2: Charles Barkley is the best, but every now and then

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Speaker 2: he gets a prediction wrong. Right, And this was after

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Speaker 2: the Game two beat down. Minnesota crushed Denver. This is

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Speaker 2: what Charles Barkley had to say on TNT. Check this out.

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Speaker 1: The Minnesota timber Walls offer real. They gotta sweep the

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Speaker 1: Deva Nuggets period. Yeah that's e.

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Speaker 2: Don't sweep there as Denver one last night by twenty

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. Heading into Game three, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Minnesota's looks so good. It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: tough for Denver. And then the game starts and you're like, okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, forget all of that, and two things stand

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Speaker 2: and you had Denver crawling with Wolves fans who are

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Speaker 1: Check this out.

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Speaker 2: Here you go, you're chanting that in Denver. And on

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Speaker 2: top of it, in game three at home, you're booing

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Speaker 2: every time Jamal Murray touches the ball.

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Speaker 1: We get it.

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Speaker 2: He threw a towel on the court in game two.

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Speaker 2: He threw a heating pack on the court in game two.

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Speaker 2: So he's public enemy number one, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: what did Jamal Murray say after Game three when he

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Speaker 2: It's extra motivation. Michael Blone talked about it after last

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Speaker 2: talking heads and they're like, it's done, Soiver, it's a rap.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota's better. And He's like, if that doesn't fire you

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Speaker 1: What are you fans doing.

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Speaker 2: You guys have done nothing in that whole area since.

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Speaker 1: The nineties, and you're gonna be talking trash about the

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Speaker 1: defending champs because you win two games. What are you

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Speaker 1: doing right now?

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Speaker 3: There was also a little bit of progression and regression

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Speaker 3: in terms of Jamal Murray had.

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Speaker 1: A real tough start to this series. You know, he was.

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Speaker 3: Pretty cold during the Lakers series, but it really showcased

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Speaker 3: he had a historic nine twenty four points, fourteen rebounds.

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Speaker 3: It was one of those It was just one of

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Speaker 3: fueled by some of the negativity, but also Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 3: I was talking about Denver's defense, and I was thinking

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Speaker 1: End it's because he did.

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Speaker 3: When you're more efficient offensively in the NBA, it gives

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Speaker 3: there were less turnovers as a result of Jamal Murray

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Speaker 3: And look, there was regression to the mean for Anthony Edwards.

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Speaker 3: He scored seventy points between the first two games. You know,

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Speaker 3: he's not a thirty five point per game guy. Now,

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Speaker 3: he could score against any defender, against any defense anytime

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Speaker 3: And I think that's what we saw last night with

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Speaker 4: And we've seen this happen before in high profile series.

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Speaker 4: Remember the finals between the Suns and the Bucks. Suns

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Speaker 4: there's a there's an element of championship persona here that

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Speaker 4: think to the championship pedigree that Denver has, Minnesota doesn't have,

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Speaker 4: and they look like the best team, but there's a

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Speaker 4: different animal to that last clincher. And I know we're

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Speaker 4: not to the clinching game yet, but let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: And now it's very much up in the air. Right now.

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Speaker 4: The favorite of bet MGM is still t Wolves in six,

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Speaker 4: seven to one's looking rather enticing now after what we

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Speaker 4: Denver tied to two. I mean, Nuggets in six feels

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Speaker 4: Denver is very, very live to win this series after

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Speaker 4: So they're not afraid even if even let's say they

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Speaker 2: Man, I'll tell you what I love the psychology of

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Speaker 1: They went on a five nothing run. Good luck, you

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Speaker 4: Which kind of fan are you, Brian, when you're watching

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Speaker 2: Because listen, if I rooted for a fan, if I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like I don't know what the best football

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Speaker 2: I'm just not doing it. It's not smart. It's that

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Speaker 2: whirl right, You're poking yo kids, You're poking jabal Murry,

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Speaker 2: You're poking everybody on the Denver nuggts.

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Speaker 1: That's smart. And he looked amazing.

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Speaker 3: He like Yo Kitch, looked like he was in control

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Speaker 3: It's like watching air traff control, like from the high post.

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Speaker 1: And so it's like watching a great quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Like it's the no look stuff, it's the wide open

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Speaker 3: So yo kich, I mean as much as Jamal Murray

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Speaker 4: So Minnesota minus three and a half, and in game

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Speaker 4: In Game three, Yeah, and I'm seeing some two and

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Speaker 1: I think Minnesota bounces back and.

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Speaker 4: Game five, and then I think game six is is

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, man, these last two games, it

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Speaker 1: He does. That's what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Anthony Edwards he's going to be better. I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine it's going to struggle. Go Bear has to

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Speaker 4: He's got Draymond Green ripping them and Gilbert Arena's ripping them.

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Speaker 4: His game, do we complete no show? Six points four

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Speaker 4: He looked like he just got his son was born

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Speaker 2: We got Rich Hoornberger State All American father on this program.

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Speaker 2: We've got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian now,

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Speaker 2: Jared and I we are not fathers.

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Speaker 1: You one day that counts? Does that count? Dogs? Count

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Speaker 1: absolutely the dog Father. I like jackpot good tag right there, morning,

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Speaker 2: Hey coming up next man? This team sure is whiny?

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Speaker 2: Does that mean anything going forward? We'll dive into that.

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Speaker 2: So the Indiana Pacers they won Game three. It was dramatic,

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Speaker 2: as Jared Smith was talking about these Knicks games are

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Speaker 2: Worst case, we're going to overtime. So absolutely huge shot

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Speaker 2: you didn't call that. This wasn't a foul, and you

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Speaker 2: and I look at this and I'm thinking that's overly whiny,

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Speaker 2: it just makes me wonder if that's your mindset where

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Speaker 1: I don't like your chances going forward. That's not the.

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Speaker 2: Only reason, but the mentalities are completely different. Jalen Brunson,

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Speaker 1: He got nicked on the forearm. No call.

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Speaker 2: He didn't spend the postgame press conference like it was

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Speaker 3: I love this take, and I was talking about it

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Speaker 1: I completely agree with you.

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Speaker 3: And so my feeling on this is, is this really

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Speaker 1: He attacked the officials.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna make minor adjustments. And then you do the coaching,

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Speaker 1: And it's up to him and his staff.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that was the psychology here. I

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Speaker 3: I don't like it when a team or a coach

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Speaker 1: Take take a long walk off a short pier, buddy.

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Speaker 1: That is dumb. Yeah, I mean, I just think I

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Speaker 4: I like it landed well, way better than broke my Meemhart,

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest, the whistle does matter in these NBA games.

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Speaker 4: It does matter, and I'm okay with a team doing

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Speaker 1: The best whistle possible. This was probably a little bit

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Speaker 1: over the.

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Speaker 4: Top, but as long as it is in the construct

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Speaker 4: of the rules, I don't think Rick Carlisle is wasting

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Speaker 4: his valuable time doing this. I think they have a

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Speaker 4: staffer that does this and Rick just kind of sends

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Speaker 4: it off. But yeah, it was absolutely over the top.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not going to go out a limb and

444
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Speaker 4: say that it's the reason why the Pacers are going

445
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Speaker 4: to lose this series because they're so whiny. Like the

446
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Speaker 4: reason why the dick might lose this series is because

447
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Speaker 4: they can't keep anyone on the floor, and that might

448
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Speaker 4: be the deciding factor. I don't think the officiating is

449
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Speaker 4: going to be the deciding factor here, but yeah, it

450
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Speaker 4: was probably over the top.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just hate the tone. That's being sure, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I think back to think of a guy like

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Speaker 2: Phil Jackson from back in the day and how he

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Speaker 2: would We'd always say this, he's sending messages through the media,

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Speaker 2: you know, and he would do that. He was masterful

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Speaker 2: at that. But he wouldn't carry on and just wine

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Speaker 2: and whine and wine some more. He would say it

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Speaker 2: and that would be it, and then the focus was

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Speaker 2: on what they needed to do, not what the officials

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Speaker 2: needed to do. So to me with Rick Carlyle saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: after Game one, we had a highlight tape together and

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Speaker 2: we thought about sending it to the league office, but

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Speaker 2: we thought the whistle would.

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Speaker 1: Balance out in Game two.

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Speaker 2: That's not the case, so therefore we're sending this extensive

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Speaker 2: video package. Paraphrasing, but that's basically what he's saying. You're

467
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Speaker 2: setting a tone. And when you look at Game three,

468
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Speaker 2: even though the Pacers won that game, just.

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Speaker 1: Watch how whiny they are. You know.

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Speaker 2: I get that Jalen Brunson is more than a handful

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Speaker 2: to defend, but every single time it's sometimes Siakam he

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Speaker 2: was saying, no, no follow, I didn't touch him.

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Speaker 1: It's like, bro, you clabored him, what are you talking

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Speaker 1: about right now?

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Speaker 2: It's just it's an ongoing thing where the Pacers are

476
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Speaker 2: so concerned and so caught up and are we getting

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Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt with the whistle going our way?

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Speaker 2: And even in Game three, a game that they won,

479
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Speaker 2: they seem to be too distracted and too hung up

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Speaker 2: on that. I get that every team complaints. I do,

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Speaker 2: But when it's coupled with Rick Carlisle detailing, Hey, we're

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Speaker 2: sending this video package.

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Speaker 1: It's seventy eight plays.

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Speaker 2: In the first two games, and you watch how Game

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Speaker 2: three goes, I really do think the Pacers, who are

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Speaker 2: the lesser team, even with the Knicks being banged up,

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Speaker 2: I just don't think their mindset is right. I don't

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Speaker 2: like them to pull off an upset in this series

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, and let's be very honest

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Speaker 3: with each other. Nemhard hasn't had a good series. That

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Speaker 3: shot was not a good shot.

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Speaker 1: No howl.

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Speaker 3: Burton got himself trapped out at the logo and in

495
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Speaker 3: desperation passed it off to a guy who struggled through

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Speaker 3: the first two games of this series, and he took

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Speaker 3: a step back three from beyond thirty foot. That's not

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Speaker 3: his game, that's not his shot. And he said it

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Speaker 3: himself after the game. He said, look, yeah, that's not

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Speaker 3: like one I practice a lot. That was more of

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Speaker 3: a once in a lifetime, like I forget things that quote,

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Speaker 3: but it was like it really was. It was a

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Speaker 3: one off, and yeah, it bought them some breathing room

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Speaker 3: and it got them the win in game three. But

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Speaker 3: that's not that's not a good plan, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, just hoping somebody gets lucky or hot in

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Speaker 3: the waning moments of a close game. I mean, how

508
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Speaker 3: many of these games are going to be close? And

509
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Speaker 3: also how lucky are you going to get in those moments?

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Speaker 3: You know, Halliburton's been sensational and he was good in

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Speaker 3: this game too, But it's it's just not the plan.

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Speaker 1: Can't feature one.

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Speaker 3: Great scorer and then a lot of complaining to the referees.

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Speaker 3: You need to figure something out if you're going to

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Speaker 3: make this a series. Otherwise this could end up being

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Speaker 3: a four to one Nicks move on kind of series

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Speaker 3: and they win the next two straight. Because I again, referees,

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Speaker 3: they'll listen, especially in playoff series, they will listen. They'll

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Speaker 3: humor a team who feels like they've been maybe given

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Speaker 3: the raw deal, and so you may see a fairer

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Speaker 3: called game the next game out after a little complaining

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Speaker 3: at the postgame podium.

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Speaker 1: That happens, you know.

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Speaker 3: So that is a tactic, and like I said, it

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Speaker 3: comes off whiny and complaining. It is a tactic and

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Speaker 3: it has worked in the past. But overall, referees swallow

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Speaker 3: the whistle in the postseason, and thank goodness they do,

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Speaker 3: because this series is actually a fun series to watch

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Speaker 3: because of how physical it's been. I appreciate that in

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Speaker 3: postseason basketball. It's a little bit of a throwback aspect

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Speaker 3: to it. Yeah, and so bodies crashed into the ball,

532
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Speaker 3: physicality and the paint, like that's what people are thirsty

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Speaker 3: for in the regular season that we don't get to

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Speaker 3: see because the NBA knows that they have such a

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Speaker 3: long postseason. They need to keep guys healthy if they're

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Speaker 3: going to have an interesting postseason.

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Speaker 1: And so here we are, and this is a good

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Speaker 1: series because of it.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think the referees are going to want

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Speaker 3: to blow the whistle all that much more, but maybe

541
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Speaker 3: it helped them out the Pacers.

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Speaker 1: I mean a little bit in game three.

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Speaker 4: This is the only series that's been decided by single

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Speaker 4: digits all three games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is it.

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Speaker 4: Guys, don't expect these series to be nip and tuck games.

547
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Speaker 1: They're not.

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Speaker 4: And the Knicks have this ability to just play close

549
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 4: games like it's as we talked about, like it's just

550
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Speaker 4: every game is a battle, and whereas I think the

551
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Speaker 4: other series there's this element of I don't want to say,

552
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 4: like more you know, smooth basketball. But the team that

553
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: wins is just so much further ahead of the team

554
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Speaker 4: that loses on that given night. Most of these games

555
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Speaker 4: get out of hand because they just kind of give

556
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Speaker 4: up at the end. But the Knicks don't know what

557
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 4: that word means. So they are in a unique position

558
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 4: in this series. They're the better team that is hamstrung

559
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: significantly by injuries, and that levels the playing field for Indiana.

560
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 4: But let's be honest, a fully healthy Knicks team with

561
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 4: Anenobi and Brunson one hundred percent and Mitchell Robinson in

562
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Speaker 4: the lineup, this series is not close. The Knicks are

563
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Speaker 4: clearly the better team. They have the best I think

564
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Speaker 4: they have the MVP of the postseason. I know we

565
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Speaker 4: don't crown the n MVP of the postseason. But if

566
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Speaker 4: we did, Jalen Brunson is it and if he is

567
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Speaker 4: one hundred percent or at least as close to one

568
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 4: hundred percent as he's going to be to play, Yeah,

569
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Speaker 4: the Knicks are gonna win the series because I think

570
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Speaker 4: he's gonna whel them to the series. I think the

571
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Speaker 4: next round is where things get tricky. So you know,

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Speaker 4: Pacers laying six in Game four tomorrow, guys, I mean

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Speaker 4: you want to la six with this Pacers.

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Speaker 1: Team, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think you take the Knicks tomorrow, and then you

576
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: take the Knicks again in Game five, and then you

577
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: keep betting the Knicks until they win the series. And

578
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Speaker 4: I think this is this is one of those moments

579
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Speaker 4: for the Knicks where you're gonna really find out, you know,

580
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 4: the national stage is just set for them, and Jalen

581
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 4: Brunson has absolutely delivered. So I think that's the that's

582
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Speaker 4: the vibe I get. I don't know if it's the

583
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Speaker 4: Rafts or if it's Halliburton or whatever, but I do

584
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Speaker 4: think the Knicks have a psychological edge in this series.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will tell you I'll lay six all day

586
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Speaker 2: when it comes to betting on Isaik loakron okay, like

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Speaker 2: twenty yeah, A six is a layup right there. That's

588
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: easy money. I low hear what this this morning with

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Speaker 2: the latest, you.

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Speaker 7: Can bet on a lot of excitement from last night

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Speaker 7: across sports. We're going to relive it right now, starting

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Speaker 7: that for a dollar damn right with Game three of

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Speaker 7: the Western Conference semi Finals, Denver Winnegain Minnesota one seventeen

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Speaker 7: to ninety two, will still lead the series two games

595
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Speaker 7: to one. Jamal Murray goes from heat back to heat check.

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Speaker 7: He scored twenty four points. Nikola Jokic added twenty four

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Speaker 7: also at fourteen rebounds and nine assists. In Game three

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Speaker 7: of the Eastern Conference semi Finals, the Pacers and Nicks

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Speaker 7: tied at one oh six of a final thirty seconds.

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Speaker 7: Here is Mark Boyle on WFNI.

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Speaker 8: Aliberton double teams out near the timeline three to shoot,

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Speaker 8: two to shoot thirty five foot travelers.

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Speaker 1: For two man.

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Speaker 7: Just to clarify, Nemhard's jersey number is number two. That

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Speaker 7: was not a reference to something else, just just to

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Speaker 7: clarify felt that's how number two, certainly how nick Man's felt.

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Speaker 7: Because the Pacers wanted one eleven to one oh six,

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Speaker 7: knickstill lead the series two games to one. In Game

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Speaker 7: two of the Stanley Cup Playoffs Western Conference semi Finals

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Speaker 7: Friday night, the Edmonton Orders won at Vancouver in overtime

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Speaker 7: four to three to tie the series at one. Here's

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Speaker 7: how the winner sounded on c hed down the right

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Speaker 7: half worts boo shark stepped in and then shut.

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Speaker 9: It Tip Tom given boo shard Let fly in Tin

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Speaker 9: has taken Game two in.

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Speaker 1: Over time. And in case you missed it, that occurred

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Speaker 1: in oo over time.

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Speaker 7: And that's what's Trent? Oh, hold on, fellows? Oh, what's

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Speaker 7: a text from Rich?

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Speaker 1: Okay, did you get.

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Speaker 7: I just heard the beep? All right, Isaac? Aren't you

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Speaker 7: forgetting the Padres game fist emoji?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think new acquisition right there?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the Rich yeah fist emoji was unnecessary.

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Speaker 7: But nevertheless we are hearing to please. Padres and Dodgers

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Speaker 7: tied at one in the bottom of the ninth inning.

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Speaker 7: Here's the great don Or solo Why.

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Speaker 9: The center fight on the pace hid where it's coming

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Speaker 9: around Crooks second or comes to throw hero beside. Welcome

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Speaker 9: to sad Lois arrives, walk up fish pots.

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Speaker 5: What and on that note.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: show posted right after we get off the year. You

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Speaker 2: know what it makes me think of his last year.

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Speaker 2: Louise arrives with the Marlins. He was flirting with a

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Speaker 2: four hundred batting average earlier in the season, and he

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Speaker 2: slowed down as almost everybody does. But when he was

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Speaker 2: really focused on there were some people that are like,

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Speaker 2: he's not entertaining.

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Speaker 1: He's a singles and doubles guy.

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Speaker 2: Not that exciting, right, I'll tell you what, Well, it's

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Speaker 2: a good formula for excitement.

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Speaker 1: Put him on a better team. Put him on a

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Speaker 1: better team.

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Speaker 2: That was not a walk off home run, right Rich,

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Speaker 2: That was just a that was a base hit that

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Speaker 2: won a game, and the crowd is going freaking insane.

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Speaker 2: So get him away from the Marlins, get him on

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00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: a better team. All of a sudden, those singles and

657
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: doubles a whole lot more exciting.

658
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they put a pinch runner in scoring position with

659
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Speaker 3: real wheels, with a rise at the plate to try

660
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: to you know, knock home the winning run and in

661
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: the you know that that's what it looks like when

662
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: strategy meets opportunity meets talent, and Luis Arise did exactly

663
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: what you're hoping a star player would would do in

664
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: that situation. You're right, Yeah, players like him, singles and

665
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 3: doubles hitters, they don't get enough. They don't get enough

666
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: love in Major League Baseball because everybody knows it's about

667
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: launch angle now and you know, the outcome when you're

668
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 3: swinging for the fences are so much better analytically, blah

669
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. But you know what, you need

670
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: great role players too, and sometimes those great role players

671
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: can become, you know, integral parts of the operation in

672
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: order to you know, dare I say, to be a

673
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: championship team. I don't know if the Padres will get

674
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 3: to that caliber this season or at all, but there's

675
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: only one way to do it, and it's by having

676
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: guys who can do what Luis Arise did last night,

677
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 3: and by the way that that was an amazing piece

678
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: of hitting and it was everything.

679
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: Strategically worked out. I got to give credit.

680
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: To the broadcasting crew, Don Arcillo and so Mark Mudcat Grant.

681
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: Holy smokes, because Don had that great call and that

682
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 3: was fantastic. But then the restraint to just allow the fans,

683
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: the viewing audience at home to bathe in the excitement

684
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: and the celebration right in shallow center because Arise legged

685
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 3: out the double.

686
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: You know, that was incredible.

687
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 3: And then it was about thirty seconds pause before Mark

688
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: Grant gave analysis on the piece of hitting and the

689
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 3: pitch running. You saw it was brilliantly done. Their two

690
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: of the best doing it in baseball. They really do

691
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 3: know how to call an exciting play, and that was

692
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: the most exciting play of the Padre season.

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00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 4: The biggest mistake that young broadcasters make is not using

694
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: the silence or I guess the crowd noise as another

695
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 4: brutes like the broad like the crowd is your third

696
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: Like if you have two guys in the booth, to

697
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: a girl and a guy, whatever is the booth, the

698
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: broadcaster or the crowd is the third person in the

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00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 4: Booth and the young play by play guys. I always

700
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: think they have to fill that time. The crowd can

701
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 4: fill it for you.

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00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: I like that. It's a It's true.

703
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: I didn't think Tony Romo did the opposite with the

704
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: word at it when to take a lesson from everyone

705
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: else got the winning touchdown, right, I didn't think.

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00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem with it. I'm with you, guys.

707
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: I get it.

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00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: The Vin Scully thing, let it breathe, I get all

709
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 2: of that. But I just didn't have a problem. People

710
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: came raining down on Romo. But in any event, we

711
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: moved along. We've got Rich Ornberger, Penn State, All American.

712
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: Jared Smith is with us FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No.

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00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 2: Coming up next. Jared Smith has been in the lab

714
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: cooking up a parlay platter. He will unveil it next.

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Listening Fox Sports Radio.

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00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: We don't have any time to waste. Let's do this.

719
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 5: Check this out our late ladder.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jared Smith, he's been hard at work, smoke billowing

721
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: out of the lab, cooking up a parlay ladder.

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00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: What do you have for us, Jered, Yeah, let's have

723
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 1: some fun today. Let's let's mess around with reverse correlation. Oh,

724
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: big word, what does that mean?

725
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 4: What it means is we're gonna go over and under

726
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: on a prop on the same player, different props, obviously.

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00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: Because that would be stupid if we went over and

728
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: under the same prop. That's not gonna hit Jared. Yeah,

729
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a lot. That's a loss before we

730
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: even get to the game.

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00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 4: But we're gonna focus on my guy, Jason Tatum tonight

732
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 4: because I I do think it's a big bounce back

733
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: spot for Boston. Right it's game three, they're on the road,

734
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: they're still favored by a significant margin. And usually when

735
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 4: a team's favored by double digits and they lose outright

736
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: and then they're still favored by more than seven in

737
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: the next game, it bodes well for that team to

738
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 4: bounce back. So I think it's a big bounce back game.

739
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 4: Jayson Tatum, So we're gonna go over twenty seven and

740
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 4: a half points. I think that's pretty self explanatory. We

741
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 4: think Jason Dating probably should have gotten there in Game two.

742
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 4: He didn't play the last four minutes he finished with

743
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 4: twenty five points.

744
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: So there's the first leg of the parlay.

745
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 4: But now we're gonna go Tatum under five and a

746
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 4: half assists for the second leg. Now this is heavily juice.

747
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 4: This is minus one fifty and the first leg the

748
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 4: points prop is minus one fifteen. Well, if you throw

749
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 4: those two things together in a normal parlay, it should

750
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 4: be about two to one odds. But because of the

751
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 4: reverse correlation again going over one prop on a player

752
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: and then under on another prop on the same player,

753
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 4: we're getting about twenty five cents bonus juice here. It's

754
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 4: plus two twenty five over at bet MGM for this prop.

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00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 4: And the reason I'm going under on assists. So he

756
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 4: had six assists in game two, or excuse me, five

757
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 4: assists on six potentials. That is a highly efficient assist margin.

758
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 4: Usually you're about fifty percent right you make the assist.

759
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: It's a potential assist. God the shot.

760
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 4: It's very rare that you have six potential assists and

761
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Speaker 4: five of the six turn into actual assists. So I

762
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 4: think slightly less efficient passing game. We're seeing the Cavs

763
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: play a lot of isle ball on Tatum and Brown.

764
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: They're trying to eliminate those catch and shoot threes. We

765
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: saw that work very effectively in game two, So I

766
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: think under assists makes sense for Tatum tonight and over

767
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 4: points and again plus two twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Not the richest.

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Speaker 4: Parlay over at bet MGM, but the reverse correlation gives

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Speaker 4: us a little extra bonus and makes this slightly valuable

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Speaker 4: to me.

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Speaker 1: That's fun. That's a fun one. So the ciscount was

773
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Speaker 1: four and a halven and a half.

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Speaker 4: Oh, we're going over twenty seven and a half points,

775
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 4: under five and a half assists on Jason Tatum tonight.

776
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: You put that into your little parlay platter there at

777
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: bet MGM plus two twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I like it, I do. I like it. Also, the

779
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: parlays they can be you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you can have as many legs as

781
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Speaker 3: you want or I'm sure they're tapped at a certain.

782
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: Point, but they it could be all over the place.

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Speaker 3: This is kind of fun to have the focus the

784
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: spotlight on a singular player in a single game.

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Speaker 1: That's uh, that's interesting.

786
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the reverse correlation, I feel like I understand it

787
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Speaker 3: now for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Excellent.

789
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to thinking the thinking makes sense to me,

790
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: more aggressive, you know, looking to score Jason Tatum, who

791
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 2: hasn't gotten off in this series yet.

792
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Speaker 1: It makes sense to me. So we've gone off for

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Speaker 1: thirty tonight. Guys.

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00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the little plus little ladder maybe.

795
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: A little ladder act. We love a good lad in mind,

796
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: all right?

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00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: Coming up next, the aftermath of a smash hit.

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Speaker 1: We will get to that. Coming up. I'll welcome in here.

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Speaker 1: Happy Saturday to you.

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Speaker 2: It was a smash hit that would be the roast

801
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: of Tom Brady earlier this week where it's funny man,

802
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: My girlfriend and I we traveled from It was somewhere

803
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: in Kentucky.

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00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: We weren't even to Nashville. We weren't even to Tennessee yet.

805
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: We traveled from Kentucky all the way down to New Orleans, right, which.

806
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: Is a healthy little drive.

807
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: We got to the place around I don't know, like

808
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: two am something like that, and we started watching the roast.

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00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: We watched the whole freaking thing.

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00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: We went to bed at like five thirty in the

811
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: morning something like that. That's how good it was. You

812
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: couldn't take your eyes off of it. All these people

813
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: talking trash about Tom Brady, and whoever else was part

814
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: of the festivities. You know, some of the jokes about

815
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: Gronk and bled so, oh my gosh, it was just

816
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: top shelf stuff. But some of the aftermath was that

817
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: Julian Edelman detailed how awkward it was between Bill Belichick

818
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: and who I called the two faced rat, which would

819
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: be Robert Kraft right there, who's all smiles in front

820
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: of Belichick, all smiles to his face.

821
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: Hey, let's toast it the greatest of all time.

822
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: And then he's on the phone with Arthur Blink like, yeah,

823
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: don't hire this guy.

824
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: He's more than a handful. You don't want to do that.

825
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: But Julian Edelman said how awful it was between Belichick

826
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 2: and Craft, even though it was respectful, very awkward, And

827
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Speaker 2: I could understand why based on the history this offseason, well,

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00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: the three of.

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Speaker 3: Them, you know, Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Robert Kraft, you

830
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: have to imagine that you could cut that tension with

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00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: a knife. Look, when I was in New England for

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00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: the three years that I spent with the three of

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00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: those people I just mentioned, it was when everything we

834
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: were living in the Land of Milk and Honey. Everything

835
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 3: was perfectly fine. You know, like Randy Moss was coming

836
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Speaker 3: off a career year. Tom Brady it was ten years

837
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Speaker 3: into his career, had already had three Super Bowls under

838
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 3: his belt. We had a great team, or I should

839
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 3: say we had great teams. Gronk was drafted in two

840
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 3: thousand eleven, wasn't maybe it was twenty ten, whichever year

841
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: was he and that really opened the door to a

842
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: completely new era for the tight ends, or I should

843
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 3: say for the Patriots passing game, including the tight ends.

844
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 3: Obviously at the time, Aaron Hernandez was on the team

845
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: as well, who very quickly was no longer with the team.

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00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: But you catch my drift, like things were good but

847
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: then things got real bad. And when they got bad,

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00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 3: I don't think they ever really recovered, you know, And

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00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: I don't think.

850
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: They ever really will.

851
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: That was a really special twenty years for the NFL,

852
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: for the Patriots, for Patriots fans, but for Bill and

853
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,959
Speaker 3: Tom and Craft. There's gonna be a lot of hard

854
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: feelings in Craft. He's not a young man. So I

855
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: don't think that truly all of the resentment is going

856
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: to go away completely.

857
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: I don't think all of this.

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00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: I don't think there's enough life left in everyone includes

859
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: lifetimes for this all to be worked out, and I

860
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 3: certainly don't think it's going to happen in an environment

861
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: like that one, because everybody's got their head on their

862
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: swivel at a at a roast like everything is fair game.

863
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: In fact, so much so that Tom Brady leapt out

864
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: of his seat and got in the ear of Jeff Ross,

865
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: who told one massage.

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00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: Joke about Robert Kraft.

867
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Speaker 3: You know, it was kind of like like, hey, it's

868
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 3: enough of that blank all right, you know. And I

869
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: don't think that was scripted. I mean, you heard from

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00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: Jeff Ross that, oh no, that was a part of

871
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: the plan. You know, it's fine, Everything was good. But

872
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: Nikki Glazer, she got on, she got interviewed a couple

873
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: different places, and she said, yeah, I don't think anybody

874
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: was expecting that that was a little bit off the cuff,

875
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: you know.

876
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: So there was a lot of tension in that room,

877
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: there's no question.

878
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 3: But getting back to the first thing you said, it

879
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: was compelling from start to finish. I started watching it

880
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: live expecting to turn it off at some point. I

881
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: left it running the entire time. I watched the entire

882
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: live broadcast It was awesome. It was awesome.

883
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 4: It was the best sports and entertainment crossover since the

884
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 4: last Dance and very different, right, very different sports and

885
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 4: entertainment crossover, but it was the best like full type

886
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 4: of you know, mellow drama, and I was I was

887
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: captivated by the drama in the room, and I know

888
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 4: it was very funny.

889
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: It was hilarious.

890
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 4: Nicki Glazer is, Oh my goodness, so so good. All

891
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: of the comedians were fantastic. Andrew Schultz also who literally

892
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: the night before sold out the Garden, got on a plane,

893
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 4: went to LA and then did that show. He was

894
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 4: interviewed on a podcast afterwards. He also confirmed the story

895
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 4: that there was a specific no Robert Kraft joke, you know,

896
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 4: that was kind of like the vibe, but when they

897
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 4: were going through their walkthroughs was we're not going to

898
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 4: make jokes about the.

899
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: Kids or Robert Kraft.

900
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 4: And that's why I don't think I think Jeff Ross

901
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 4: was playing it cool like that. That was not scripted.

902
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 4: Like that was Tom Brady being the alpha of all alphas.

903
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 4: He was ready to shut down the roads in the

904
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 4: first five minutes like that was it, you know, don't

905
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 4: make anymore Robert Kraft jokes, but this was to me.

906
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 4: I don't want to say the next generation of sports

907
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: entertainment crossover type stuff, but.

908
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: We need more of this. We need Lebron to do it.

909
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: We need dare we say, Tiger Woods.

910
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 4: I mean, we need these athletes to put their egos

911
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: aside for the night and in the name of entertainment,

912
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 4: allow these comedians to roast them.

913
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: It is.

914
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: And let's be honest people, if you have an issue

915
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 4: in your life, that's kind of like, I don't want

916
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 4: to talk to that person because they wronged me ten

917
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 4: years ago. Like the roast is the best way to

918
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 4: smooth things out.

919
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: Just get it all out in the open.

920
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 4: Everyone's talking about all the dirty laundry and then it's

921
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 4: all in the past. And I'm not gonna say that

922
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: Robert Craft and Bill Belichick are going to be best friends,

923
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 4: but I think their relationship is much better today than

924
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 4: it was before the roast because they were in the

925
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 4: same room taking a shot together.

926
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: At least that's some progress.

927
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: And again, they're not going to be on each other's

928
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 4: Christmas cards list, probably, but at least that initial awkwardness

929
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: of running into your ex at a party at least

930
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 4: that's over now and you could just move on and

931
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 4: go forward, like we're not going to be talking about

932
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 4: the relationship between Craft and Belichick anymore because the incident happened,

933
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 4: we saw them together, and now it's all over.

934
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: Well.

935
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: One of my favorite jokes was from Belichick who was

936
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: talking about Rob Gronkowski, and of course Belichick his whole

937
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: you know slogan mantra is do your job right, just

938
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 2: take care of your responsibility.

939
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: So this is a playoff that. This was hilarious to me.

940
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: Ron I've been watching on Fox NFL Sunday and I'm

941
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: begging you, please stop.

942
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: Doing your job.

943
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 2: That's just hilarious, Like do somebody else's job. I don't know,

944
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: just stop doing your job. The writers did great for

945
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: these guys, they really did. They came up with some

946
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: eight ones. The one from Drew bledsoe uh oh talking

947
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: about Tom Brady and he said, you have more rings

948
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,959
Speaker 2: than I do. But I've experienced a couple of things

949
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: that you'll never experience. The feeling of being being a

950
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: number one overall drafted in the NFL and a twenty

951
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 2: eighth wedding anniversary.

952
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: Oh god, jel I've said about universe. Oh, I was like,

953
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: come on, Giselle.

954
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gizelle was her. Her feathers were ruffled. This is

955
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 2: according to People dot Com. Gizelle was deeply disappointed by

956
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: the disrespectful portrayal of her family.

957
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: What do you think you're going to talk about? Yeah,

958
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: it's a it's a roast, roast for crying out loud,

959
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: you're high profile. I think the word you got divorce

960
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: was super model. I think you're gonna leave that out.

961
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 3: Well, and the other thing is, well, here here's the

962
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: Tom Brady signed up for the roast.

963
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: Jizelle didn't.

964
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: But you do know that she's gonna come up, and

965
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: she's a famous person. I I, I really have a

966
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: hard time and I've never been that famous, so I

967
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: don't know what it feels like when it feels like

968
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: maybe the world is at the back of your neck,

969
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 3: or you're nipping at your heels, especially when your kids

970
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: or your family or your relationships are involved, or maybe

971
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: things are being misrepresented, whether it's funny or not, or

972
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: for the sake of humor or not. But but you know,

973
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: having said that, qualifying this whole statement I'm gonna make

974
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: when you're a famous person and you're capitalizing greatly off

975
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 3: that fame. Like Giselle sells a lot of makeup and

976
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 3: fashion wear and designer clothing because she's famous and she's beautiful,

977
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 3: and she's famous because she's beautiful, and that's a part

978
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: of being a supermodel. But also the other part of

979
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 3: being a supermodel or being a famous person is when

980
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: you put yourself out there, you are also veiling yourself

981
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 3: to criticism.

982
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: And this isn't the first time.

983
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 3: She's been criticized for, you know, publicly for her actions

984
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: or things she's said or done. I mean, let's face it,

985
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: during Tom Brady's career, she stepped in it a couple

986
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 3: of times.

987
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: You know.

988
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 3: She had some comments about Wes Welker after the Super

989
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: Bowl against the Giants the second time around. Oh yeah, yeah,

990
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 3: she made a comment something to the effect of, well

991
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: Tom can't throw the ball and catch it.

992
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I do remember that, you know.

993
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: And then she had comments about, you know, Tom's concussions

994
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: and things like that.

995
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the one season Tom.

996
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: Didn't have any reported concussions, and so people were like,

997
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 3: what concussions are you tugging about?

998
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: You know.

999
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: So it's a little bit of if you're gonna be

1000
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: famous and you're gonna speak out, or you're gonna be

1001
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: in the public eye and you're gonna capitalize off of

1002
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: being in the public eye.

1003
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: You have to take the bad with the good.

1004
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 3: And this is unfortunately something that whether she realizes it

1005
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: or not, Netflix probably paid Tom Brady a grip of

1006
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 3: cat figures.

1007
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 1: Right, so eight figure plus.

1008
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 3: Well, guess what, some of that money that he made

1009
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 3: that night is going to be shared with yours and

1010
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 3: his children, you know, So he's rebuilding the war chest.

1011
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: He's post career, post NFL.

1012
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: You know, he's making money for your family, even though

1013
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: he availed your family to some criticism.

1014
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's hard for us mere mortals to

1015
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 4: put ourselves in these situations, you know, to try to

1016
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: speak from Tom and Giselle's perspective because we're not that

1017
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 4: famous to where people want to roast us.

1018
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: But I tried. I tried to put my head in

1019
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: that mindset.

1020
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 4: I think if I was that famous and I was

1021
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 4: getting paid that much money, I think I would figure

1022
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 4: out a way to dissociate for the night, like I

1023
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 4: would figure out a way, just like I do sometimes

1024
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 4: when I read bad things on social media about me,

1025
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 4: just dissociate from it and like, yeah, it's funny and

1026
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 4: a laugh.

1027
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: And Tom laughed at some of the stuff, but for

1028
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: the most.

1029
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 4: Part, he was just kind of awkwardly holding his drink

1030
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 4: and taking SIPs as the joke came in. He has

1031
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 4: this way of training his mind, and I'm sure he

1032
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: I bet and Rich you could speak to this more

1033
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 4: you play with him.

1034
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: I bet he trained for this.

1035
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 4: I bet he probably went through all the stuff that

1036
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 4: they knew they were going to say, and.

1037
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: He absorbed it all.

1038
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 4: So when the jokes came, they didn't hit as hard,

1039
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 4: and Giselle probably didn't do that, so the jokes probably

1040
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 4: hit a little bit harder. But I bet Tom trained

1041
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 4: his mind for this so where he could go somewhere

1042
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 4: else for the evening and allow this to happen.

1043
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: Because, let's be honest, you're paying the eight figures. Yeah,

1044
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: you can roast me all night long. Baby.

1045
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 4: So I think that's where I'm at with this. I think, yeah,

1046
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 4: Giselle's gonna make her money from it, even though she

1047
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: didn't directly benefit. She will get money through the through

1048
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 4: the grapevine, through you know, all the channels that I'm

1049
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 4: sure she receives money from Tom. And and that's really

1050
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 4: the only way that you can look at like, if

1051
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 4: I ever get to that point where you want to

1052
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 4: roast me, that's a compliment, Like this is a compliment

1053
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 4: to Tom. And he had the last word, as the

1054
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 4: roast always does, and I thought it was excellently.

1055
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: I thought everything.

1056
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 4: About the night was perfect, and the after math of

1057
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 4: Giselle being upset, I thought was kind of soukrapes.

1058
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: Well, I'll add one other thing here where it's kind

1059
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: of what you guys are talking about with having the

1060
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: right mindset or having a mindset that is helpful to you,

1061
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: where it really made me think about this with a

1062
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: couple of the guys on stage, Randy Moss drew bledsoe

1063
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: and I'll play you some sound here.

1064
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: So this goes back to the nineteen ninety eight.

1065
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,959
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings, right, think how great of a team they were.

1066
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: Randy Moss was on that team. They were an offensive

1067
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: machine and then they lost to the Falcons in the

1068
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 2: NFC Championship game, didn't win a Super Bowl. But this

1069
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: was on NFL Networks America's game and John Randall, who

1070
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: was a great defensive lineman, he described that ninety eight

1071
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 2: season like this, It's like driving down at.

1072
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 10: And getting every green light for the next ten miles

1073
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 10: and you were just cruising along and it just smoothed

1074
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 10: and all of a sudden you're getting there. He almost ten.

1075
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 10: All of a sudden light turns red and you get

1076
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 10: sie light.

1077
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: Wow, right, Like That's how he described the ninety eight season.

1078
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: Think about that as it applies to Randy Moss with

1079
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: the Patriots. There were jokes about, hey, Tom, can you

1080
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: give me one of your Super Bowl rings? And Belichick

1081
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: did that like, I'm not giving you one of my rings, Randy.

1082
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: And think about Randy Moss. He was on a perfect team.

1083
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: They were sixteen to zero and then they lost to

1084
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: the Giants in the Super Bowl. And Randy Moss in

1085
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: three years with the Patriots didn't win a ring. Did

1086
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 2: you never want a ring in his career? And think

1087
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 2: about it's all jokes during a roast, but think about

1088
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 2: how that feels.

1089
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: The Patriots were a machine.

1090
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 2: They won six rings in New England and the Tom

1091
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 2: Brady era, Randy Moss didn't get one of them. Think

1092
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: about how it would feel with Drew bledsoe you get

1093
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: hurt against the Jets, Brady comes in and takes over

1094
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 2: and he wins six rings. You might have won one,

1095
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 2: like think about that. Your mind can start thinking along

1096
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 2: those lines of what if and man, this sucks that

1097
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 2: you start thinking like that. You're just getting in your

1098
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: own way. And so I don't know. It's all fun

1099
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: in games during a ROAs, but when you're alone and

1100
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: you got to get your mind right.

1101
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: If you don't, it's gonna be a miserable life.

1102
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: And that's something that you will not get when people

1103
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 2: are just throwing one liners one after another during a

1104
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: roast like that.

1105
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: Well, what I will say, you know, and this is

1106
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: true for everyone.

1107
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 3: This isn't unique to athletes, but part of the healing

1108
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 3: process for anybody is getting to a point where a

1109
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 3: sad story or an embarrassing story, or maybe somebody who

1110
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 3: you've lost along the way, you can remember the good

1111
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 3: or the funny or you can remember the funny about

1112
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: the bad in order to heal. And so a lot

1113
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: of people get to that place. A lot of athletes

1114
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 3: have to get to that place otherwise it will eat

1115
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 3: at you for the rest.

1116
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: Of your life.

1117
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: I'll say this about my career with the Patriots versus

1118
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 3: my career outside of the Patriots. When I was with

1119
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: the Pats, losses hurt a lot more because the expectation

1120
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 3: was to win every game. Now, I'm not saying that

1121
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 3: I thought we were going to be sixteen and oh

1122
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 3: every year, because that wasn't the case. And look, there

1123
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 3: were sixteen games played, you know, seventeen now, But at

1124
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 3: the time, I didn't expect to be sixteen and oh

1125
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: every year, but that that was the expectation. You didn't

1126
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 3: feel like you really should lose any game when Tom

1127
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 3: Brady's your quarterback. You got Randy Moss out there, you know,

1128
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 3: ground comes along. You got this defense that Belichick put

1129
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 3: together with Will Fork and Mayo and some of you know,

1130
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 3: like we felt unbeatable every game.

1131
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: You felt like you had a chance to win. So

1132
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: the losses or.

1133
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 3: Getting bounced from the playoffs in the three years, the

1134
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 3: one culminating in the Super Bowl, those hurt more than

1135
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 3: any of the other losses or seasons throughout the course

1136
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 3: of the rest of my career because I wasn't on

1137
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 3: as good of teams as I was then.

1138
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: So I agree with what you're saying.

1139
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 3: It is really difficult when you're with the team and

1140
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 3: I didn't win a Super Bowl with the Patriots either,

1141
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: And trust me, it happens all the time. People ask me, Hey,

1142
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 3: when'd you play for him? I'm like two thousand and

1143
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 3: nine to twenty twelve. They're like, oh, so you won

1144
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl and I'm like, no, I did not. Yeah,

1145
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: And trust me, to this day, it eats at me.

1146
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: But you have to find a way to laugh at it.

1147
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: And I think the roast it could have brought up

1148
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 3: some old bad feelings, tough feelings for Bledsoe, for Moss,

1149
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: But I think at the same time, some of that

1150
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 3: stuff is.

1151
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: Therapeutic, like finding a way to laugh at all of it.

1152
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 4: I recommend if you are struggling with something in your life.

1153
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: And I've had some things too. My dad died.

1154
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 4: When I was thirty two years old of cancer, Like

1155
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 4: you know, that was unexpected. If that's some really difficult

1156
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 4: things happen over the course of my life.

1157
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: You can't run from it. You have to absorb it.

1158
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 4: I think that's why the roast is, in my opinion,

1159
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 4: the best way to deal with any problem in your life.

1160
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying you have to get a bunch

1161
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 4: of people together to roast you. I'm saying you have

1162
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 4: to bring it to the forefront. You have to take

1163
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 4: that awkward situation in your life, Bill Belichick, Robert Kraft,

1164
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 4: get him in a room, take a shot, water over

1165
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 4: the bridge, under the bridge, wherever it goes.

1166
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: And then move on with your life.

1167
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 4: If you bury it deep down and you ignore the

1168
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 4: problems forever, it will eat at you in a much

1169
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 4: more unhealthy way. I mean, this is like mental health

1170
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 4: one on one. You cannot run from your problems people.

1171
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 4: I think Drew Bledsoe handled that well. I think Randy

1172
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 4: Moss handled it great. The jokes about Edelman and Gronk

1173
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 4: were just like goofy like, oh Yeahan's this, you know, man, whatever,

1174
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 4: you know going around hooking up with people, and Grompson

1175
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 4: idiot like. But the stuff about bled Zoe and Randy Moss,

1176
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 4: you're right rich, like that would eat at me too.

1177
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 4: But the only way to approach it is to meet

1178
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 4: it head on. So kudos to.

1179
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: All them for agreeing to do that.

1180
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 4: And I think it was a healthy, therapeutic, hilarious night

1181
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 4: of sports entertainment.

1182
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: It was.

1183
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: It was hilarious, man, There's no doubt. That's the voice

1184
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: of Jared Smith FSR betting analyst Rich Ornberger, Penn State,

1185
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: All American. I'm Brian No all right, coming up next.

1186
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: This league is doing something that is causing way more

1187
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: hardened good, more harm than good for themselves.

1188
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: They're doing it to themselves. What are they doing? We'll

1189
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: light that out for you.

1190
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1191
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1192
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: You know, I don't understand why the NBA does this

1193
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: to itself. The last two minute report, what's the point.

1194
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't get it at all. This happened.

1195
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 2: Uh, let's go u specifically with the Pacers Knicks series. Right, So,

1196
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: Game one, the Knicks pulled it out, very close game.

1197
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: There was an illegal screen with twelve seconds to go

1198
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: by Miles Turner. Okay, and he in the postgame press

1199
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 2: conference he was like, you know, just let the players

1200
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: duke it out on the court, you know.

1201
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: Let the players play.

1202
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: And he basically was like, I'm interested to see what

1203
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: the last two minute report shows.

1204
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: And they upheld the call.

1205
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: They said, yeah, it was the right call, but they

1206
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: were like, ah, but there were four other calls that

1207
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: were missed in the final two minutes, and some of

1208
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: these are significant calls and it's like, why do we

1209
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 2: do that. We're detailing calls that can't be changed, can't

1210
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: be altered.

1211
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: It's just a done deal.

1212
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: They even remember the Tyrese Maxi four point play when

1213
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: Philly had the dramatic comeback against the Knicks. That was

1214
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: like basketball history right there, postseason lore. The last two

1215
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: minute report came out and they're like, it was actually

1216
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: traveling on Maxi. That four point play shouldn't have been

1217
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: a thing at all. It's like why why. That's like

1218
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: a supermodel coming up to you now and being like

1219
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: I had the biggest crush on you back in the day,

1220
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: and you're like, that doesn't do me any.

1221
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: Good now now I'm married with kids. Sorry.

1222
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate the last two minute report. I know

1223
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: they want to be transparent and make sure everything's on

1224
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: the up and up. It doesn't accomplish anything but make

1225
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 2: the NBA look like they screwed it up and that's

1226
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: all you're focused on. I think it works way more

1227
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: against them than for them.

1228
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, this, to me is what happens when one side

1229
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 3: of a power dynamic has too much power. All of

1230
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 3: a sudden, little requests that probably don't need to be humored,

1231
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 3: get honored, and get consummated, and all of a sudden

1232
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 3: you get some weird outcome like this is because the players.

1233
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: Have a lot of power.

1234
01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 3: And when you negotiate with the ownership group and and

1235
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 3: you complain about officiating or or it's not even collectively bargain,

1236
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 3: it's just a request made of the league, and it's

1237
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: honored by the league to quell the complaints of the players,

1238
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 3: you know, to sort of quiet the.

1239
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: Unruly mobs.

1240
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 3: It's silly because, like you said, it accomplishes absolutely nothing.

1241
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 3: I think a lot of the problems with the NBA

1242
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 3: is the players have too much power, and this is

1243
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 3: a smaller example of that.

1244
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 4: Players have way too much power in the NBA. It's

1245
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 4: another story for another day. We probably could do a

1246
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 4: whole three hour show just on that. I think, I

1247
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 4: don't know, I'm kind of I'm okay with the last

1248
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 4: two minute report. I think let's leave it at this.

1249
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 4: If you're letting something that happened in the last game

1250
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 4: affect your next game, you're doom no matter what. And

1251
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 4: that's where I think the two minute reports more for

1252
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 4: us than it is for the players. If the players

1253
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 4: are like living and dying with everything that comes out

1254
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 4: on that report.

1255
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: You're not focusing on the task at hand.

1256
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 4: So I think it's more for, as you said, Brian,

1257
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 4: transparency purposes.

1258
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: We can't change the past. We haven't figured that out yet.

1259
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 4: Maybe one day we will be able to learn how

1260
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 4: to go back in time and change the past, but

1261
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 4: right now I haven't figured that out yet.

1262
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm still a mere mortal.

1263
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 4: I'm still here, poor and trying to figure out ways

1264
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,919
Speaker 4: to win parlays for you guys every day.

1265
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: But I think I would let's leave it at this.

1266
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 4: I would rather see it than not see it and

1267
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 4: guess and say, well, maybe that was right, maybe that

1268
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 4: was wrong. Like I didn't know about the Maxi thing.

1269
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 4: It doesn't change how I feel about that series. The

1270
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 4: Knick still won the series, but yeah, it kind of

1271
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 4: makes you think twice about some.

1272
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: Of these moments that we have late in games. I

1273
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: freaking hate it.

1274
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: I absolutely despise it, I think, And it's not just

1275
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 2: about me, It's about the league. If Adam Silver just had,

1276
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: like I don't know, a town hall meeting, right and

1277
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: he's like, hey, ideas for improving the NBA, what do

1278
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: you got, I'd be like Hill the last two minute

1279
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 2: report immediately, it does you no good at all. All

1280
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: it does is tele a fan base. Hey, you your

1281
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 2: team officially got screwed and there's nothing we can do

1282
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 2: about it, or if you're better, we talk betting on

1283
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: the show all the time, Jared, how would you feel

1284
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 2: if the last leg of your parlay pladder is whatever

1285
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: the Nicks minus the points and a call doesn't go

1286
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: the right way and the last two minute report comes

1287
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: out and they're like, yeah, yeah, we screwed that up.

1288
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: It's official that we screwed it up. And you're like, great, thanks.

1289
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: That doesn't help me at all. It does way more

1290
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 2: harm than good. And the other thing is because it's

1291
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 2: about the betting stuff and the Tim donaghy scandal, and

1292
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:44,959
Speaker 2: they want to be transparent.

1293
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: I get that.

1294
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: You still could have something, you know, an official with

1295
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: ulterior motives or something. Even though you have the last

1296
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: two minute report, it doesn't mean everything's on the up

1297
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 2: and up anyway. It doesn't occ plish anything like.

1298
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: Literally nothing, and they keep doing it.

1299
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 2: It's the dumbest thing for a league and they're doing

1300
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: it to themselves.

1301
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy.

1302
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 3: However, I'm gonna play devil's advocate here, and again I'm

1303
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: I'm not supportive of this. I'm just going to spin this.

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Speaker 3: So if I were gonna spin this from the standpoint

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Speaker 3: of maybe maybe this wasn't the league's intent when this

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Speaker 3: came out, but as a result of the two minute report,

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Speaker 3: this either quells some of the concerns about transparency and

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Speaker 3: maybe the officiating crew has to answer for some of

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Speaker 3: the things and the Tim Donaghey thing and.

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Speaker 1: All that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, so maybe there's some of that and that's positive,

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01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 3: but maybe now an unintended consequence that has turned into

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Speaker 3: a real positive for the league is the fact that

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Speaker 3: when the two minute report comes out, it gives more

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Speaker 3: for everybody to nash on. Like so from a media

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01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 3: cycle standpoint, it's like you have the game and you

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01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 3: have the outcry for this player that player, bad call

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01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 3: or good call or whatever, and then the two minute

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Speaker 3: report comes out and it's even more to chew on.

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Speaker 1: So they own the media cycle for longer.

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Speaker 3: So benefit NBA on the unintended benefit of the last two.

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Speaker 4: Minute REPORTE I agree with that. I do think there

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01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 4: is a level of we need to stay relevant for

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Speaker 4: as long as possible and the media cycle is very quick.

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Speaker 4: They will move on to the next thing right away.

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Speaker 4: I don't know to answer your question, Brian, obviously i'd

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Speaker 4: be upset. It happens all the time, Like we get

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Speaker 4: hose on calls and they cost us bets. But it

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Speaker 4: goes back to my point to the players, if you're

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Speaker 4: focusing and I say this, one of my mentors in

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Speaker 4: this space, professional gamblhere is incredibly, incredibly prolific at his job,

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01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 4: and he once told me, if you're worried about your

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01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 4: last bet and it's affecting your next bet, you're already

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01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 4: making a bad bet. And like, that's the mindset of

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Speaker 4: the players. Like if these players are looking at the

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01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 4: game report from the last game and they're like, man,

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01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 4: these refs hose us and Brian, it kind of goes

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01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 4: back to what you're saying about the Pacers, Like the

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01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 4: pacers are worried so much about the refs, it's affecting

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Speaker 4: how they play the games, and that is a problem.

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01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 4: So while it is very helpful to us, as you know,

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01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 4: outsiders looking at the game saying well, that was right,

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01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 4: that was wrong, and maybe the NBA is kind of

1344
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 4: cutting off their nose despite their face a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I think I would still rather know than not know.

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01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 4: I am always of the belief that ignorance can be

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Speaker 4: blissed sometimes, but in the situation of sports and information,

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01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 4: I want to know as much as possible because I

1349
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 4: think that will help me actually make a smarter bet

1350
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Speaker 4: the next time out. As much as you have to

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Speaker 4: not let things affect you, the information is paramount, like

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01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 4: that's really all we have is information, Like we don't

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01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 4: know what's going to happen, but we know what happened

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01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 4: and we can try to use that and apply it forward.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it can be.

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Speaker 4: Very frustrating, and I'm sure these players hate it, but

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Speaker 4: I still would rather know than not know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's good for the league.

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Speaker 2: That's my whole thing is if you can convince me

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Speaker 2: that's good for the league, Fine.

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 4: That's a fair that, that's a fair argument to me, right,

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01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 4: because I still would rather know, though I still would

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Speaker 4: rather know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but let's say the last two minute report comes

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Speaker 2: out of the Knicks Pacers last game and they say,

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Speaker 2: you know what, Jalen Brunson, he did get fouled when

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01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: he was taking that desperation three and they say it

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01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: was on the floor, but he should have gotten two

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01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: free throws. Sure they could have cut the deficit to one.

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Speaker 2: That changes everything? Like, how is that good for the league?

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Speaker 2: Like there's gonna be plenty of controversy. You don't need

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Speaker 2: a last two minute report. Trust me, there's plenty of

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01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 2: controversy well before the last two minute report in NBA

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Speaker 2: playoff history. I want the focus to be on the

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01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 2: great playmakers, the crazy things that we've seen. I want

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Speaker 2: it to be on Andrew Nemhart hitting a thirty one

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01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 2: foot shot to save the Pacers lives in that he

1379
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 2: actually traveled. Take it away, right, how is it good?

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Speaker 2: I'm completely against. It's somebody who I'm not completely against

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Speaker 2: at all. I am in complete support of this man,

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01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 2: Isaac Lowing from.

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Speaker 1: He's with this. I low with the latest.

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Speaker 7: Much much appreciated as always, as was the performance by

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Speaker 7: the defending NBA champions in Game three of the Western

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01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 7: Conference semi Finals on Friday night, as Denver one in

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01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 7: Minnesota one seventeen to ninety. Timberwolves still lead the series

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01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 7: two games to one. Jamal Murray scored twenty four, as

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01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 7: did Nikola. Jokichi also had fourteen rebounds and nine assists.

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Speaker 7: Denver was fourteen out of twenty nine from three point range.

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01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 7: Earlier Friday night, in Game three of the Eastern Conference

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Speaker 7: semi Finals, the Pacers and Knicks were tied at one

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Speaker 7: oh six. In the dying minute. Here is Mark Boyle

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Speaker 7: on Wfni Alibert.

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Speaker 8: Double teams out near the timeline three to shoot, two,

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01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,839
Speaker 8: to shoot five.

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01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: Tweven for two.

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Speaker 5: All right, very funny.

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Speaker 7: And again, just to clarify, number two was in reference

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01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 7: to Andrew Nemhard's jersey number. Nothing else anyway, that was

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01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 7: the game winner. Pacers over the next what eleven to six.

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01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 7: That Dick still leave the series two games to one.

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01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 7: Of the Stanley Cup playoffs on Friday night, the Edmonton

1404
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 7: Oilers won at Vancouver in overtime, four to three in

1405
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 7: Game two of the Western Conference semi Finals, tying the

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01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 7: series at one. Evan Bouchard the overtime winner, five minutes

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01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 7: and thirty eight seconds into the extra period. And in

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Speaker 7: Major League Baseball on Friday night in San Diego, the

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01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 7: Padres and the Dodgers were tied at one in the

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01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 7: bottom of the ninth inning. Here's Don Orcillo.

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Speaker 9: Where it's coming around Brooks Seconder comes to throw, he

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Speaker 9: will be side.

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Speaker 1: Louis rides pots and that is to get out of

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Speaker 1: here with that. Back to you guys, it's Louise a

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Speaker 1: Rise number two there. I don't know that would be

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01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: funny if he was really would bring everything home if

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Speaker 1: that were the case.

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01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: It is a Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox

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01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Hey, we've got the NFL schedule that's going

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01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 2: to be released on Wednesday, So very much looking forward

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01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 2: to that. I love that the NFL is announcing the

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01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 2: schedule will be announced next Wednesday, right like it's an

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01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 2: announced Minds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that movie? Oh yeah, yeah.

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01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 2: So you get the Chiefs, who do you want? Okay,

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01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 2: the Chiefs will don't open it up on Thursday night.

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01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 2: We don't know their opponent yet. Who do you want

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01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:03,480
Speaker 2: the most? You could go with the divisional team Broncos, Chargers, Raiders,

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01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 2: and we can do better than that, right. Would you

1430
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 2: want the Bengals, the Ravens or the Texans on that

1431
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 2: Thursday night opener?

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01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Yeah, okay, you want to you want to

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01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: see an NFC team? I think well they did that

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01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: last year, right yeah? Yeah?

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01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: Home schedule would either be Tampa or the Saints. Yeah,

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01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: that's not so you're down to Bengals, Ravens, Texans.

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01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Texans.

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01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 3: I love the fact that the Texans look everybody looks

1439
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,440
Speaker 3: like they got better through the draft, but they addressed

1440
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 3: a lot of needs and it feels like, based on

1441
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 3: what we saw last year, they found their franchise quarterback.

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01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 3: It feels like a little bit of geez. Now, Patrick

1443
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 3: Mahomes is this three time Super Bowl champ. You know

1444
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 3: that storyline is getting a little long in the tooth,

1445
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 3: and it's interesting during his time of dominance, and it's

1446
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 3: been a short time, but it has been dominant. It's

1447
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 3: given rise or there has been rise to another superlative

1448
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 3: young talent in the AFC with CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud and this and this Texans team.

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Speaker 3: So I think I think if I were forced to

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01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 3: pick any of those AFC opponents, I would I would

1452
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 3: take the Texans.

1453
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 4: I've got the right answer, guys, this is an obvious answer,

1454
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 4: and I think this is how the NFL should approach it.

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01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 4: Gimme coach Harbaugh and the Chargers coming in there. Ooh wowright, okay,

1456
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 4: divisional men, raise the intrigue level right out of the gate.

1457
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 4: Give Harball the spotlight and let this new rivalry. And

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01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 4: as much as I love the Broncos, the Raiders I

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01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 4: think are going to be a little bit of an

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01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 4: afterthought with Gardner Minshew at quarterback. But the Broncos, of course,

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01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 4: you know, are intriguing with Sean Payton.

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01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:52,799
Speaker 1: But let's be honest.

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01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 4: The division going forward is Harbaugh against Reid and the

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01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 4: Chargers and the Chiefs, and can this new regime of

1465
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 4: Harball really you know, unseat the favorite here.

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Speaker 1: That's how I would.

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01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 2: Play it if I was the NFL interesting, I would

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01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 2: go Bengals myself, because that's a Joe Burrow is back,

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01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: assuming he doesn't you know, like straining a calf muscle

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01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: or anything, and you know, training camp like he did

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01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 2: last year, remember that. But assuming he's healthy and he

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01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: should be, that's a great Week one matchup where you

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01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: get the.

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Speaker 1: Burrow head thing, right. He's had a lot of success.

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01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Kansas City and the Bengals had a disappointing

1476
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 2: season last year, but to have all their guys back,

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01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 2: that would be a great matchup, especially with the history

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01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 2: with the AFC, you know, playoff battles.

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Speaker 1: There and all that. I would go Burrow.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a wrong answer with the three

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Speaker 2: that we've mentioned. If he went Texans, Bengals, or Chargers

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01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: or Ravens. I mean goodness, it's the first game of

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Speaker 2: the year.

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Speaker 1: Watch no matter who they throw out there. Yeah. Point.

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Speaker 3: And also, I think one of the things the NBA

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01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 3: is missing right now is a truly dominant team. That's

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Speaker 3: the litmus test for the rest of the league, like

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01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 3: a little bit with Boston in the Eastern Conference. But

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01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 3: and and Denver, I guess you could have said the

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01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 3: same thing until they ran into the Minnesota Timberwolves in

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01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 3: Round two. We'll see how that series finishes. But like

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Speaker 3: when the Warriors are great for a long stretch, or

1493
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:27,799
Speaker 3: the Bulls in the nineties, or Lebron's teams with the heat,

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01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,759
Speaker 3: things like that, long stretches. You know, whether it's two

1495
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 3: to five or even a decade's worth of success, it's

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01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 3: better for a league. And right now that NFL has

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01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 3: it again with the Kansas City Chiefs. So it's the

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Speaker 3: great litmus test for the rest of the league. Every

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Speaker 3: single team that plays against them is a mini super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: You know, everybody wants to beat the Chiefs, and for

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01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:48,759
Speaker 3: good reason.

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01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, We've got rich Orenberger, Penn stayed all

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01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 2: American right there, We've got Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst

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01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 2: and the dog father as we call him.

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01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: Right figured that out today.

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01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm Brian no Coming up next, bets go Lore. A

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01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 2: lot of opportunities. We will dissect that.

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Speaker 1: Coming up.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: Let's dive into this prop it up player plays.

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01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, prop bet opportunities go Lore, many different sports,

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01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 2: not just basketball, maybe a little golf.

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01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Throwing it out there. Jared, we'll start

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Speaker 1: with you with something you like.

1516
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 4: No, I was sticking the NBA. We haven't talked about

1517
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 4: this thunder MAVs game yet. It's the first game actually

1518
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 4: on the card. They're putting the Western Conference game first,

1519
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference game second. So this one starts I think

1520
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 4: it's twelve thirty Pacific time, so be sure to get

1521
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 4: this one in. But we're going shay Gilles Alexander over

1522
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 4: twelve and a half rebounds and assists or staying away

1523
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 4: from points, focusing on rebounds and assists. So in this

1524
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 4: series he's averaging eight and a half assists and ten

1525
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 4: and a half rebounds per game.

1526
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: Well, I'm no map major, but that's way over twelve

1527
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: and a half.

1528
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 4: And really the potential assist and the potential rebounds is

1529
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 4: what is eye opening here.

1530
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: Again, Gil just.

1531
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 4: Alexander known for more of a score, but he's a

1532
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 4: great defensive player. In this series, he's been a rebounder

1533
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 4: and he has been a distributor. So I think SGA,

1534
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 4: we know role players play better on the road. Well,

1535
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 4: he's not a role player, so I think the stat

1536
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 4: stuffing nature of SGA's game fits this today, over twelve

1537
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 4: and a half rebounds and assists, the opportunities will be there,

1538
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 4: all right.

1539
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go rebounds. Different player, Luka Doncic.

1540
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 3: I'm taking the under on his ten and a half

1541
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 3: rebounds today against Okay See. So since the playoffs have begun,

1542
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,919
Speaker 3: he's only gone over or I should say eleven rebounds

1543
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 3: are more once it was the very opening game against

1544
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 3: the Clippers, So I'm gonna take the under ten and

1545
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 3: a half. He's averaging eight through this series so far,

1546
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 3: and then also staying with Luca three pointers. He had

1547
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 3: this explosive game last outing against the Thunder he hit

1548
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 3: five of them, but he's averaging two through the last

1549
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 3: five games, and he's coming off a game against Okay See.

1550
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: Where he only hit one three pointer.

1551
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 3: So this is an inflated stock category three and a

1552
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 3: half three pointers.

1553
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: I'm taking the under there as well.

1554
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm looking at this Celtics game. I like two

1555
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: lines here. First off, I'm gonna take Jason Tatum over

1556
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 2: two and a half three pointers. I can't believe this

1557
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 2: didn't hit the last game. He had two three pointers

1558
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: in the first half, didn't attempt one in the second half.

1559
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 2: I was like, what's going on over here? I think

1560
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 2: he gets there. I think it's gonna be a highly

1561
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: focused Jason Tatum. He hasn't gotten off in this series yet,

1562
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 2: and after getting blown out in Game two, I think

1563
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 2: he'll be locked in. So I'm gonna take over two

1564
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 2: and a half threes for Tatum. I also like the

1565
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 2: assists for Derek White. Give me over three and a half.

1566
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: I think he's going to look to share the ball.

1567
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 2: He's had five assists in each of the first two

1568
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: games here, and I think that the Boston offense is

1569
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 2: going to look worlds better than it did in Game two,

1570
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 2: So I think that a lot of the focus has

1571
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: been on Derek White and scoring the ball, which he's

1572
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: he did a great job of in Game one in particular,

1573
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 2: but he's able to move it along and dish it

1574
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 2: out as well. So I've got Derek White. The juice

1575
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 2: is not fantastic, it's minus one fifty five, but I

1576
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 2: think he gets the four assists. I'd be surprised if

1577
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 2: he doesen't, so it's a little bit of attacks right there.

1578
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: But I do like that bet for Derek White as well.

1579
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 5: I like that one.

1580
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 4: I think the assists makes a lot of sense with

1581
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 4: another Celtics prop that I bet this morning, Al Horford

1582
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 4: over one and a half may threes. So he attempted

1583
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 4: five in Game one, attempted seven in Game two, and

1584
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 4: again those games were blowouts in both directions, so he

1585
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 4: didn't get the full allotment of minutes. I think it's

1586
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 4: obvious to me that the Cavs are focusing defensively on

1587
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 4: Brown and Tatum and even Derek White two two in

1588
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 4: a sense, and you're getting Horford shooting forty two percent

1589
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 4: from three this season, so if he takes five or

1590
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 4: six threes he's making two.

1591
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tricky too with Dallas where they shoot so

1592
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 2: many of those corner threes. You know, they get good

1593
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 2: looks and many they let them fly. You know at home,

1594
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 2: they're gonna get a lot of threes up in the air.

1595
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. Kind of tricky to figure

1596
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 2: out who's gonna hit him and who won't. But that's

1597
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 2: why it's betting, all right, coming up next this debate,

1598
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 2: Let's not overreact, man, A lot of overreaction for a

1599
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 2: debate that was discussed. You know, it got me thinking

1600
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 2: about this, guys, because Denver punched back last night they

1601
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 2: beat the Timberwolves. Denver still trails in the series two

1602
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 2: games to one, but Nicola Jokicic his normal studley self,

1603
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: and it got me thinking about the MVP debate. So

1604
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: earlier this week, Nicola Jokicic was named MVP of the season,

1605
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 2: his third award. He's a three time MVP now and

1606
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 2: there was a lot of debate over this one. Shack

1607
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neal was one of the outspoken critics said should

1608
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 2: have been Shake Gilgess Alexander should have been SGA to

1609
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 2: win the MVP. And here's my thing, real fast is

1610
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,759
Speaker 2: if you want to say SGA should have been the guy, okay,

1611
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: that's fine, But to react like, oh, SGA got ripped off,

1612
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like that to me is

1613
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 2: a complete overreaction. Nikola Jokic had seventy nine first place votes.

1614
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: Sga had fifteen. Yeah, and as soon as you start

1615
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 2: saying that SGA got ripped off, that's where you lose me.

1616
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 2: Nikola Jokic averaged over twenty six points, twelve rebounds, and

1617
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: nine assists. He almost averaged a triple double. And I

1618
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 2: think you just get used to greatness. If this is

1619
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 2: the first year we're seeing this type of production from

1620
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 2: the Kola Jokic, we would have lost our minds. You

1621
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: got a big man almost averaging a triple double. That's insane.

1622
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: But because he was a two time MVP going into

1623
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 2: this latest season, it's like, yeah, been there, done that,

1624
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 2: shoulder shrug. But this new flavor of the season is SGA.

1625
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 2: Sga is a walking bucket. He's sensational. But you guys

1626
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 2: get my point. Sometimes you just get used to something

1627
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 2: and you don't think it's as special as it actually is.

1628
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 2: To say that SGA got ripped off is a dumb

1629
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: argument because Nicola Jokic had another sensational season. If you

1630
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 2: want to say SGA should have been the guy, fine,

1631
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 2: I get it, you have a leg to stand on.

1632
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 2: But to say SGA got ripped off is just silly

1633
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 2: to me.

1634
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I think Nicola Jokic is the MVP.

1635
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: If I had to vote, that's who it would go to.

1636
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: You know, if I was forced to.

1637
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 3: Do this, I kinda And you guys know how I

1638
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 3: feel about All Star voting, Pro Bowl voting, you know,

1639
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 3: these postseason awards or regular season awards that are announced

1640
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 3: during the postseason Hall of Fame voting. Even I think

1641
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 3: it's all really dumb and subjective, and I don't believe

1642
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 3: in it. I just I don't really have any faith

1643
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 3: that these writers or broadcasters or vote you know, vote

1644
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 3: getters really get it right all that often. And so

1645
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 3: when the hit rate is low, Why am I trusting

1646
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 3: others when I can trust my own eyes. But I

1647
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 3: do think that Jokich was the most dominant player from

1648
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 3: my subjective standpoint in the NBA this season. I respect

1649
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 3: Shack's opinion, I respect anybody's opinion that it may be

1650
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 3: more deserving to go somewhere else, But I think it's

1651
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 3: a little it's far out on the limb to say

1652
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 3: anybody got robbed this year by giving it to Yokich

1653
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 3: because he's doing historic things on the court. He's he's

1654
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 3: about as dominant a player as we've seen at his

1655
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 3: position since Shack. Basically, it's it's unbelievable what he can

1656
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 3: do as a center. I guess a stretch five in

1657
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 3: this league.

1658
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think SGA is the MVP of the league.

1659
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't.

1660
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 4: I think he might be down the road, But I

1661
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,719
Speaker 4: think the way that the votes shook out it was correct.

1662
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 4: I think the other and Chris Brussard said this on

1663
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 4: the show earlier this week. He voted for vot, he

1664
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 4: voted for Luca, and I think that, frankly, I would

1665
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 4: have I think Lucas more of an MVP than SGA.

1666
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 4: And it's not a knock on SGA at all. I mean,

1667
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 4: he could be an MVP at some point later on,

1668
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 4: but the numbers don't lie. Lucas averaging almost a triple

1669
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 4: double two like so, it just I think he doesn't

1670
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 4: do as much as those other two guys do. And

1671
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 4: I don't think Sga is asked to do as much

1672
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 4: as those other two guys are. I think the way

1673
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 4: that the Thunder play, it's more of a team dynamic.

1674
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 4: I mean, we watched the Thunder. They have a couple

1675
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 4: of role players that I think play like stars home

1676
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 4: Grim and Williams. And I don't think Dallas or Denver. Actually, Frankly,

1677
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 4: Denver's got two stars Jamal Murray. But let's be honest,

1678
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 4: Jokich is the MVP the real cup of this Who

1679
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 4: is the guy that voted for Yannis for the first place?

1680
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: Yeah or girl? Frankly, I don't know.

1681
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 4: Who it was, but that was And to your point, Rich,

1682
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 4: like the way that these votes and these awards are

1683
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 4: kind of constructed. We bet on them their markets. They

1684
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 4: need to be transparent. I like that we see the

1685
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 4: votes at the end, but I don't trust these people,

1686
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 4: Like are they really watching the games? I don't know

1687
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 4: if the person that voted for Yannis to win to

1688
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 4: win the MVP could There's no way he watched the

1689
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 4: bucks this year, Like, I don't know if that person

1690
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 4: really watched the games, right, because how could you watch

1691
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 4: the games and say Yannis the team that finished third

1692
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 4: in the worst in the in the lesser conference. That

1693
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,560
Speaker 4: was fortunate to win the division because Cleveland punted on

1694
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 4: the last day of the year. Who was in and

1695
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 4: out of the lineup? I think he played like seventy

1696
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 4: ish games. He missed like over ten games this year.

1697
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 4: It was a mess from the start for the Bucks.

1698
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 4: How can you say that guy's the MVP, Like, how

1699
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 4: can I put my faith in those people voting for

1700
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 4: these awards if that is the result. And I know

1701
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 4: it was an outlier, but we get that a lot

1702
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 4: with these award markets. It makes them very tricky, and

1703
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 4: it's why when you're handicapping them from a betting perspective,

1704
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 4: forget about who you think should win the award, handicap

1705
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 4: the voter base.

1706
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: What do the voters tend to do? It's hard to

1707
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 1: predict that.

1708
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 4: But to your original point, Brian, a lot of people

1709
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 4: wanted to see Yokic not win it this year because

1710
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 4: he had already won it, not because he wasn't the MVP,

1711
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 4: just because it gets stale and we want.

1712
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: To see something new, which is not the spirit of

1713
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: what the award is. Right, That's my issue with it.

1714
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 2: And half I half applaud Chris Brussard because he thinks

1715
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 2: for himself. Sure, not like, yeah, the masses are gonna

1716
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 2: say Yokich, therefore I'm gonna say Yokich as well.

1717
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: He thinks for himself.

1718
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: The flip side is he's been doing a show with

1719
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 2: Rob Parker for far too long, you know what I mean.

1720
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 2: He's just going straight contrarian crazy ville. But like Luca,

1721
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: he only had four first place votes, you know, and

1722
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 2: Luca had a strong season, there's no doubt, but you

1723
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 2: just get used to greatness.

1724
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: I agree with that, That's what it is.

1725
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 2: Remember Russell Westbrook when he averaged a triple double that

1726
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 2: first season, it was like blow your mind type stuff.

1727
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 2: We never thought we would see this again. We thought

1728
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 2: Oscar Robertson would be the last guy not gonna happen again.

1729
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook did it, he was the MVP. He did

1730
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: it again the next season. We were like, eh, shoulder shrug, right,

1731
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 2: it's crazy, like come on. But I think there's a

1732
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 2: lot of that with jokicch And if you want to

1733
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 2: cut through it as well, there's an artistic little element

1734
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 2: to all of this too, where exactly, man, you look

1735
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 2: at Anthony Edwards flying through the air and dunking on

1736
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 2: John Collins, and it's just like WHOA jokicch is like

1737
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 2: Jello out there, you know what I mean.

1738
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: It's like wobbling around.

1739
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 2: Incredibly effective, but he's not nearly as artistic as Anthony

1740
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 2: Edwards or SGA. SG is beautiful and Jokic is highly effective.

1741
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,919
Speaker 2: It's just not a beautiful game. And maybe that, coupled

1742
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 2: with getting used to greatness, is why you're like, yeah, Ben,

1743
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 2: they're done that. I'm ready for something new right now.

1744
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 2: You can't vote like that.

1745
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 3: No, I completely agree with you to comment on two

1746
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 3: things you said there.

1747
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: I think they are brilliant points.

1748
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 3: We do get tired of greatness, We get bored of greatness.

1749
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 3: There was a stretch there where Lebron James was the

1750
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 3: MVP every season for I could make an argument for

1751
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 3: six to eight seasons during the stretch of his career

1752
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 3: like in a row, he was the best player in

1753
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 3: the league and it wasn't even close. But nobody is

1754
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 3: going to allow the MVP trophy to go that stale.

1755
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 3: And during that time of complete dominance of the MVP

1756
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 3: or of the of the NBA, there were other very

1757
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 3: valid MVP candidates and I think exactly what you said, Brian,

1758
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 3: is what happened with these voters. Did they get tired

1759
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 3: of writing Lebron's name at the top line and so

1760
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 3: they gave somebody else some shine?

1761
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 1: And is it fair?

1762
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 3: No, because those players, in my opinion, and I think

1763
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 3: subjectively amongst most NBA plans would say, yeah, nobody's better

1764
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 3: than Lebron.

1765
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: We're just this is very performative.

1766
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 3: We're just giving it to somebody else to share the

1767
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 3: wealth a little bit here. But then to talk about

1768
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 3: Jokicic's game in defense of him winning the MVP this year,

1769
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 3: I agree with you, but I'm about to speak out

1770
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 3: of both sides of my mouth. And this is the

1771
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 3: reason why I hate MVP voting is because I am

1772
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 3: bored to tears by Jokiic's game. I think he is

1773
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 3: one of the worst things that's happened to the NBA.

1774
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 3: Wow Wow, because I'm telling you, it's not sexy.

1775
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's it's.

1776
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 3: I mean, look, Michael Jordan was I mean it was

1777
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 3: it was like watching Liquid Mercury. You didn't know where

1778
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 3: this guy was gonna go. There was just such an

1779
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 3: elusiveness to his athleticism, and he was tough, and he

1780
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 3: was a great defender, and he was offensive. Lebron James

1781
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 3: to see a freight train move with such agility, incredible.

1782
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,679
Speaker 3: Steph Curry revolutionized the game from the three point line,

1783
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 3: and he did that little shimmy that pissed off every

1784
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 3: opposing fan, but the Warrior fans erupted, and you know,

1785
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: there was drama because he was the perfect ying to

1786
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 3: the yang of Draymond Green on that team. And there's

1787
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 3: so much, so much about the Warriors to love, and

1788
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 3: also so much about the Warriors to hate. The dever

1789
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 3: Nuggets are boring team, Luca John, excuse me. Jokic is

1790
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 3: a boring player. He doesn't look you know, physically intimidating,

1791
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 3: he doesn't look athletically dominant. He's a skillful shooter. He's

1792
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 3: a skillful, fundamentally sound basketball player. He does amazing things

1793
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:00,040
Speaker 3: on the basketball court. And well, I say that I

1794
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 3: yawning because every time I watch him play, I want to.

1795
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: Take a quick nap afterward. I don't even know how

1796
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 1: to respond to that.

1797
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:11,679
Speaker 10: It's I mean, that's boring.

1798
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 1: That was boring, Star, How was a take right there?

1799
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 4: We should we should uh we should definitely mark that

1800
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 4: one down and play it again later.

1801
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: That was an interesting one.

1802
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 4: I think I'll lay it out in gambling terms, because

1803
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 4: that's really the only thing I know how to do

1804
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 4: with this kind of stuff, right, Jokich is like if

1805
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,679
Speaker 4: you're just betting a minus one ten side every day,

1806
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 4: and it's like, I'm just gonna bet the sides and

1807
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 4: be very consistent, whereas these other players are like same

1808
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 4: game parlays with like ten to one payouts, Like we

1809
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 4: gravitate towards that because it's more exciting. It is it's

1810
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 4: more exciting to win more and risk less than it

1811
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 4: is to risk one hundred and ten dollars and win

1812
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 4: one hundred. You've got to be really consistent over a

1813
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 4: long period of time. But but ask the most successful

1814
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 4: gamblers in the history of gambling, what's a winning strategy?

1815
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 4: Is it boring, bland, every day consistent, or is it

1816
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna risk one hundred dollars and win a million. Yeah,

1817
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 4: those people tend to not win long term. So while

1818
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 4: I think I agree it's not sexy, it's a winning mentality,

1819
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 4: like he just shows up every day and wins, and

1820
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 4: and that there's something to that there's something too, and

1821
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 4: it's one thing for the not to say the MVP

1822
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 4: and and they're not winning a championship. They're winning championships too.

1823
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 4: So that's why I think it's hard for me to

1824
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 4: be against Nikola Jokic and Brian. Your your description was perfect.

1825
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 4: Jello is like the perfect way to describe him. But

1826
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 4: let's be honest. There's always room for Jello, that's right.

1827
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 1: We always make room for Cello.

1828
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if you don't have room, you still have room,

1829
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 2: always room for Cello. I would say this with Rich

1830
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 2: saying yok is about boring player. It depends on your

1831
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 2: cup of tea, right. I think a lot of people

1832
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 2: might look at stylistically. Jokic definitely is not a sexy player.

1833
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 1: He's not. He doesn't have a sexy style.

1834
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:09,799
Speaker 2: My comment would be what happens after the comma?

1835
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:10,719
Speaker 1: Okay?

1836
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:14,719
Speaker 2: Meaning this, If you say Jokic is a boring player

1837
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 2: comma bar, then what right? Like, but you got to

1838
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 2: give him credit. Man, the numbers he puts up, he's sensational. Fine,

1839
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,879
Speaker 2: if you're after the comma is Jokic is a boring player,

1840
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 2: And therefore I just can't bring myself to vote for

1841
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 2: him for MVP, or say he's the MVP.

1842
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 1: Now, I got an issue.

1843
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 2: That's where styolistically, it's getting in the way of just

1844
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 2: what he's producing. And the numbers man to average twenty six,

1845
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 2: twelve and nine in seventy nine games played the league.

1846
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 1: Nobody, Yeah, exactly, he plays every day, gotcha, Key, I'll

1847
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: give you the perfect example perfect.

1848
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, this crosses over a sport, but the perfect example

1849
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:03,799
Speaker 3: of somebody who you knowsly is either the greatest fighter

1850
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 3: of all time or one of certainly the greatest fighters

1851
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 3: of all time.

1852
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather.

1853
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 3: Floyd Mayweather finished his his fighting career undefeated.

1854
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 1: Floyd was a boring fighter. I hated watching his fight.

1855
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know and and but it's undeniable,

1856
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 2: so you're absolutely right.

1857
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 3: It's what happens after the comma. Floyd Mayweather is a

1858
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 3: boring fighter. He was a great promoter. He was a

1859
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 3: great promoter of his brand Money Mayweather. Everybody knew him,

1860
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 3: Everybody hated him. Everybody signed up for the pay per

1861
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 3: views to see him lose, and he wouldn't because he

1862
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 3: was such a brilliant defensive fighter.

1863
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 1: Nobody could touch him. That guy never got touched up.

1864
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 3: In the ring, so as a result, he would wait,

1865
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 3: he would wait, he would CounterPunch, and he wasn't a

1866
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 3: knockout king either, so most of these cards went to decision.

1867
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: It was boring.

1868
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 3: It was you would wretch while you're watching a Floyd

1869
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,799
Speaker 3: Mayweather fight because you're like, again, it's happening. Again, it's happening.

1870
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 3: But it was effective. Now that's the same way I

1871
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 3: feel about Yo Kich. I love I love his game

1872
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 3: and I hate it at the same time, I think

1873
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 3: he's brilliant and I think he's boring. I also, I mean,

1874
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 3: if you ever listen to him post game, there is

1875
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 3: nothing interesting.

1876
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 1: About this guy. Oh my god, he is. I mean

1877
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 1: it is a verbal niquil. And if some people are

1878
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: like he isn't he funny, I'm like, no, I was

1879
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 1: rolling us. I think. Oh, I think a lot of

1880
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 1: it is he knows that we don't like it, and

1881
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: he does it.

1882
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 4: He's like the perfect If there was a if there

1883
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 4: was like a degeneration X.

1884
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 1: In the NBA, like old school.

1885
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 4: The xwoah, Yo Kich would be the hull call again

1886
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 4: of the nWo in the NBA.

1887
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 1: Oh it drives me crazy.

1888
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I respect his talent and

1889
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 3: I think he's a brilliant passer. He's one of the

1890
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 3: best passers I've ever seen on a basketball court. I mean,

1891
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 3: he's just anything.

1892
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,919
Speaker 1: He's gonna be remembered in twenty years. What's his legacy?

1893
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 1: I do think. I think he'll be remembered as one

1894
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 1: of He's gonna go down as one of the goats.

1895
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,679
Speaker 1: Are we going to have that discussion with him? Probably?

1896
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:12,679
Speaker 3: And here's why, Because he's a transitional He's a transitional star.

1897
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is this is the

1898
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 3: first time in the new era of basketball that a

1899
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 3: big man has been as dominant as he's been. You

1900
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 3: know that, we like, he's truly a center or a

1901
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 3: stretch five, and he's reinvented with that position.

1902
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 1: Nobody plays like him. Looks like, yeah, exactly correct.

1903
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing to It depends on how much

1904
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 2: he wins. That's a big part of it. That's what

1905
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:37,719
Speaker 2: we're talking about.

1906
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 1: It'll come back in this series and win. I'll tell

1907
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 1: you what that's big for the legs.

1908
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 2: That would be huge, Absolutely, it would be. But that's

1909
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 2: the thing that's crazy too, is you're hearing a lot

1910
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 2: of this, Well, he's a three time MVP.

1911
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 1: He's got one ring.

1912
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 2: These three time MVPs, and more so most of them

1913
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 2: have multiple rings. That right, it turns into that, and

1914
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 2: it's like Jamal Murray isn't even an All Star.

1915
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 1: He's really good player, he's not an All Star. Look

1916
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 1: at some of these.

1917
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 2: Guys that are the Olympic team for crime, right, well,

1918
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:07,600
Speaker 2: but they've won over three MVPs.

1919
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,639
Speaker 1: Look at the co pilots that they had. Scotty Pippen

1920
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: is a great co pilot.

1921
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 2: Look at what Larry Bird had to work with with

1922
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 2: the Celtics or magic with the Lakers. He had freaking

1923
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 2: kareem right, Like, and we're talking about, oh, Jokic doesn't

1924
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 2: have multiple rings. I don't know why it's shifted to

1925
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 2: what jokicic doesn't do or what's left to check off

1926
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 2: on the resume, you know what I mean. Like, it's

1927
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:35,639
Speaker 2: just strange like that, where hey, man, he had another

1928
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 2: sensational season. I thought he deserved to be MVP. If

1929
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 2: you think it should have been SGA, I get it,

1930
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 2: there's an argument, But to say that SGA got ripped off,

1931
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 2: that's just a step too far, man, Absolutely too far.

1932
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 2: We got some NFL stuff to do. Right around the corner,

1933
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 2: we've got Rich Ornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith

1934
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 2: FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian. Now I'll tell you what.

1935
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 2: We have a handful of topics. There is something I

1936
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 2: read this morning before the show that it was a

1937
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 2: combination of laughing out loud at how stupid this comment

1938
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 2: was and then feeling the rage inside of me. You know,

1939
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 2: it was half laughter, half rage. I'll share that with you.

1940
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Speaker 1: Right around the corner.

1941
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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1942
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1943
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 2: So before the show, I was just you know, looking around,

1944
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,719
Speaker 2: looking at what stories were going on, and I saw

1945
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 2: something from CBS Sports Okay, and it was something about

1946
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 2: Brock Purdy and the headline was something like.

1947
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 1: People are still sleeping on Brock Purdy over here. I'm like,

1948
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 1: I gotta read this. Got it. It was far worse

1949
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: that I anticipated. Oh wow, way worse than I anticipated.

1950
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 2: Okay, it says I'm reading word for words, just a

1951
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 2: sentence here.

1952
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 1: We dropped our.

1953
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 2: First post draft edition of the twenty twenty four Quarterback Power.

1954
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 1: Rankings this week.

1955
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 2: Oh no, and easily the most divisive choice was slotting

1956
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 2: brock Purty at number two, behind only Patrick Mahomes.

1957
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 1: Wow, what are we doing? N It was CBS sports Man.

1958
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if the guy doubles as the blog

1959
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 2: guy for the Niners or what.

1960
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 1: But and it was funny.

1961
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 2: The write up was just hysterical where it was like,

1962
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 2: you know, if you're talking about starting your team, like,

1963
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 2: would you start your team with Josh Allen over brock Purty?

1964
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 1: Probably definitely, But.

1965
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 2: You can't sure change what brock Purty has done in

1966
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:39,719
Speaker 2: the production.

1967
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:43,839
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, just stop. I don't know, it's.

1968
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 2: Turned into we're just in looney Tunesville. You know, Like

1969
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 2: brock Purty, he's done a good job. I'm not making

1970
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 2: him out to be the worst guy ever. But putting

1971
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:56,919
Speaker 2: him as the number two quarterback in the entire NFL

1972
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 2: that's freaking insane. Yeah, Like, if you can get him

1973
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:05,759
Speaker 2: in the top five, good luck, but number two overall

1974
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 2: that's crazy.

1975
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1976
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand why people. Well, let's put

1977
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 3: it this way. If this was to get a little

1978
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 3: buzz around an article you wrote, yeah, mission accomplished, right,

1979
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,520
Speaker 3: you know, because that's a smart.

1980
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 1: Tactic here we are talking about it.

1981
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 3: But if this is truly this opinion of this writer,

1982
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:33,560
Speaker 3: that you think that Brock Party, in terms of power rankings,

1983
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 3: is the number two quarterback in the league, I have

1984
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 3: serious questions about your either motives or your knowledge of football,

1985
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 3: because it's pretty easy to get to like five or

1986
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 3: six at least before you even consider mentioning Brock's name.

1987
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 3: For me, I mean Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes,

1988
01:40:56,439 --> 01:41:00,080
Speaker 3: a healthy Joe Burrow, which health is presumed that the

1989
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 3: beginning of the season, the start that CJ. Stroud had

1990
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 3: doing more with less than Brock Parties ever had to

1991
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 3: operate with.

1992
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean c J.

1993
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,759
Speaker 3: Stroud barely had an offensive line to start the season,

1994
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 3: and he was having better games than.

1995
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: Brock Party was, and he was a rookie.

1996
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 3: So listen with this is with all due respect to

1997
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 3: Brock Purty, who I would consider a top ten quarterback,

1998
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 3: he is no. He is nowhere near number two in

1999
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 3: the league.

2000
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:30,720
Speaker 4: I would put him a lets. So I pulled I

2001
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 4: found the story. Cody Benjamin is the gentleman who wrote

2002
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 4: it for CBS. Here's the list. Allen three, Burrow four, Stroud, five,

2003
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 4: then six, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Justin, Herbert,

2004
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 4: Jordan Love.

2005
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 1: That's your top ten.

2006
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 4: I think I would put Brock maybe even with with

2007
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 4: Love maybe right at the ten spot. I definitely put

2008
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 4: Herbert and Dak and Jalen Hurts. Yeah, Lamar Jackson, like

2009
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 4: those guys are transcendent athletes in our league and leaders

2010
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:08,599
Speaker 4: beyond belief. Jalen Hurts is like the most respected person

2011
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 4: in the locker room at all times. I don't know

2012
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 4: if Brock is that in San Francisco now. I don't

2013
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 4: know for sure, but my guess is he's just kind

2014
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 4: of one of the other guys like it. Just I

2015
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:21,600
Speaker 4: I don't want to rack too much on this on

2016
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 4: the Power ratings because I know that a lot of

2017
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 4: this is for clickbait, and so by us, you know,

2018
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 4: drawing attention to it, it it it, you know, intensifies

2019
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 4: the click baitiness of it.

2020
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,679
Speaker 1: But I'll say this to anyone who's listening.

2021
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 4: If you think Brock perty's the second best quarterback in

2022
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 4: the league, the other ten to fifteen quarterbacks that are

2023
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 4: probably ahead of him maybe got sick with the flu.

2024
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like like something's wrong with that Pro

2025
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 1: Bowl alternate thing.

2026
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:52,599
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, like they like maybe they maybe

2027
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 4: they were asked to be on the list and they said, no,

2028
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 4: we're good, they'll give brock that.

2029
01:42:56,479 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 2: We'll Yeah, it's some Look, man, it's I even go

2030
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:04,599
Speaker 2: but bait it.

2031
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 1: It has to be.

2032
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 2: There's no other explanation other than that where and they're

2033
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 2: even drawing attention to it in a separate article exactly,

2034
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 2: so it's clearly clickbait. But it just makes zero sense whatsoever.

2035
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 2: And look, man, if you some quarterbacks that weren't listed

2036
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 2: in the top ten, are you taking if you had

2037
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 2: a choice right this next season, would you roll with

2038
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford in San Francisco or Brock Party?

2039
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 1: Would you roll with Trevor Lawrence with those weapons with

2040
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:35,719
Speaker 1: the Niners?

2041
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 2: Or he's running it back with well Bertie quarterback Brian

2042
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 2: I honestly, I think if you put any quarterback in

2043
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 2: San Francisco, they do the same exact thing.

2044
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 1: Brock Party is doing maybe better.

2045
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that system and the weapons he has to

2046
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 2: work with a guy that's holding a clipboard right now

2047
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 2: in mac Jones, right, we bring him up because he

2048
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 2: might have been he could have been the number three

2049
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 2: overall pick. They went with Trey Lance instead. Yeah, but

2050
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 2: you put mac Owns in that offense, I really don't

2051
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 2: think you're seeing a dramatic fall off at all.

2052
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 1: Agree.

2053
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 2: I think he's capable of putting up the same production.

2054
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 2: And people take that as a complete disc toward Brock Party,

2055
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 2: and it's not intended to be.

2056
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 1: It's just the truth. Yeah, it's just I agree.

2057
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 3: I think that I look around the league and I

2058
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 3: think of other quarterbacks who make sense in that system,

2059
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 3: who shined in that system and have done similar things,

2060
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 3: by the way, in that system, Jimmy Garoppolo, for example,

2061
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 3: before there was Brock Party, there was Jimmy G. And

2062
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 3: by the way, the way people talk about Brock Party

2063
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 3: now is the way people were talking about Jimmy G

2064
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 3: when he lost to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.

2065
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 1: Now, Jimmy G.

2066
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,879
Speaker 3: I don't think we're having conversation about a backup quarterback

2067
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 3: being considered one of the elite quarterbacks in the league

2068
01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 3: right now. But there was a time where I would

2069
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 3: have shuffled Jimmy G close to or into the top

2070
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 3: ten in the league based on production. But it was

2071
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 3: also while having the same thought in my mind that

2072
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 3: this is also partly because he's in a great system

2073
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 3: at a great time to be in that system in

2074
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 3: a division that was Look, they had the Rams in

2075
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 3: the way, there's no question about it. But there were

2076
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 3: a couple of easier teams. The Seattle Seahawks at the

2077
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 3: time they were on their way down with Russell Wilson,

2078
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals could be picked off at any moment, Like

2079
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 3: it wasn't the harshest of divisional matchups for them on

2080
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 3: a week in, week out basis. And I look at

2081
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 3: the Niners situation right now with brock Party similarly, it's

2082
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 3: not the strongest of divisions in the NFL, and you

2083
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 3: have a system with weapons everywhere you look, even more

2084
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 3: so than Jimmy G had. And so if a quarterback

2085
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 3: has some poise and some talent, and there's no question

2086
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,600
Speaker 3: that brock Party has both, he could have success in

2087
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 3: that systam him And that's exactly what we're seeing.

2088
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jimmy G did the exact same thing as as

2089
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 4: Brock and then he got bench for Aidan O'Connell, who

2090
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 4: is not in the top ten of this quarterback rankings.

2091
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 1: Lest by the way, surprisingly, but but not. I think.

2092
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 4: I would take bar like I do like Brock per

2093
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 4: I don't want to make this like an anti Brock segment.

2094
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:24,680
Speaker 4: It's it's it's not. It sounds like it is, but

2095
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 4: it's not. I think you have to understand who you

2096
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 4: are as a player. And I think if you, I

2097
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:33,640
Speaker 4: bet if you even asked Brock purty directly, candidly, not

2098
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 4: on camera, because on camera you gotta act like, yeah,

2099
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 4: I'm the guy, But candidly you're You're at a bar,

2100
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 4: you're hanging out, You're having.

2101
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 1: A beer with Brock. Hey, bro you think you're the

2102
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 1: second best quarterback in the league. Come on, he would

2103
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 1: probably tell you.

2104
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 4: Now, I think it's even he probably would would admit that.

2105
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 4: And I think he has aspirations to be the best.

2106
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 4: Everyone does, but he is limited by his physical nature,

2107
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 4: Like he is not as physically talented as all of

2108
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 4: those other eyes that we mentioned. And that's again not

2109
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 4: a knock on Brock party. I would argue that based

2110
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 4: off of his physical limitations, he is probably making the

2111
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:12,960
Speaker 4: most out of his NFL career, Like you can't play

2112
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 4: at any higher of a level for a guy coming

2113
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 4: from his situation, his size, his speed.

2114
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 1: His arm strength, et cetera, et cetera.

2115
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 4: Like he's playing at probably the highest possible level he can.

2116
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,840
Speaker 4: But there are other players. Lamar Jackson is the first

2117
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 4: one that comes to mind, Like you have to be

2118
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 4: a freak to be considered in that level. Patrick Mahomes

2119
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 4: is a freak, like athletically freakish, like that's not brock

2120
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 4: Purty and that's okay. He is again making the most

2121
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 4: out of what he can do. But to put him

2122
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 4: in that tier, I think is just, you know, blasphemy.

2123
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 1: I'll say this real fast.

2124
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:51,719
Speaker 2: Is it's funny because most of the time in sports,

2125
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 2: you at least have the opportunity to shut up the naysayers. Sure, right,

2126
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 2: Like there are naysayers with Lamar Jackson. I can't get

2127
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 2: it in the playoffs, you can't win a Super Bowl.

2128
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 2: If they win a Super Bowl, he shuts everybody up

2129
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 2: this season, right for brock Purty. A lot of the

2130
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 2: naysayers are, well, look at Shanahan to play caller, look

2131
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 2: at that system, look at the talent around him. He

2132
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 2: can't do anything to shut those people up, right because.

2133
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 1: He's still in the same system.

2134
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 2: He's still as Kyle Shanahan he still has a great

2135
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 2: supporting cast.

2136
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 1: He would have to go somewhere else.

2137
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 2: He'd have to go like to the Patriots with the

2138
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,639
Speaker 2: lack of talent like last season's roster, and put up

2139
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:31,760
Speaker 2: the same type of production. And it's like, Oh, I

2140
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 2: guess he's more than just Kyle Shanahan and talent around him.

2141
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 1: He can't.

2142
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 2: He's incapable of shutting up those naysayers. And that's funny

2143
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 2: because most of the time you do have the opportunity

2144
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 2: to shut people up.

2145
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't think brock Perty has that opportunity.

2146
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 2: With the things that are said against him as long

2147
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 2: as he's as he's in San Francisco, he would have

2148
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 2: to do something so extraordinary and route to winning a

2149
01:48:55,479 --> 01:49:00,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, putting up huge, absolute mammoth numbers, winning it

2150
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 2: all and being clutched. It would take something like that

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Speaker 2: while he's still in San Francisco. That's about all he

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Speaker 2: has to work with. Speaking of something to work with,

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Speaker 2: we have more than enough to work with when it

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Speaker 2: comes to Isaac loewen Kron with us this morning, two

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Speaker 2: spin us around.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 7: I love We actually have some breaking horse racing news

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Speaker 7: for you guys this morning. Kenny McPeak, the trainer for

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Speaker 7: Kentucky Derby winner Mystic Dan, announced that Mystic Dan will

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Speaker 7: run in the Preakness Stakes.

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Speaker 1: After all.

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Speaker 7: It was initially thought that Mystic Dan would be held

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Speaker 7: out of the Preakness because of the quick turnaround. However,

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Speaker 7: McPeak announcing earlier this morning that Mystic Dan will run

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Speaker 7: in the Preakness Stakes, keeping hopes alive of a potential

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Speaker 7: run at the Triple Crown. I'm gonna have to gallop

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Speaker 7: faster than that, to be honest with you. In Game

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Speaker 7: three of the NBA's Western Conference Semi Finals on Friday night, Denver,

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Speaker 7: what in Minnesota? One seven ninety t will still lead

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Speaker 7: the series two games to one. Earlier Friday night, in

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Speaker 7: Game three of the Eastern Conference semi Finals, the Indiana

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Speaker 7: Pacers and New York Knicks retied at one oh six

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Speaker 7: in the final minute.

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Speaker 1: Here was Mark Boyle on w f N I.

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Speaker 8: Atliburton double teams out near the timeline, three to shoot,

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Speaker 8: two to shoot thirty five foot three.

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Speaker 1: Two and again.

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Speaker 7: In case you just happened to be joining us, That

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Speaker 7: was a reference to Andrew Nemhard's uniform number, not anything else.

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Speaker 1: Probably the only number that doesn't work. I really.

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Speaker 7: Even number even number one would not be as instantly

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Speaker 7: egregious as yeah and totally totally different concoctation.

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Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Playoffs.

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Speaker 7: On Friday night, the Edmonton Oilers one Game two of

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Speaker 7: the Western Conference semi Finals at Vancouver in overtime, four

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Speaker 7: to three, times, the series at one. In Major League

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Speaker 7: Baseball Friday night, the Dodgers and Padres were tied at

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Speaker 7: one in San Diego. In the bottom of the ninth inning,

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Speaker 7: with Don Orcillo at the microphone, why the.

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Speaker 9: Shutter fel on the pace, Hid, where it's coming around Brooks.

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Speaker 1: Seconder comes to throw. He will be.

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Speaker 9: Side block up a Satday Echo. Lois arrives, Walk up,

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Speaker 9: face Hid potteris what.

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Speaker 1: All yours fellows? Thank you? I Low.

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01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 2: right after we get off the air. You know, I

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01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 2: was thinking about something that you said, rich and we'll

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Speaker 2: go fast on this.

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Speaker 1: We're up against it.

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Speaker 2: But you compared Nicola Jokic to Floyd Mayweather, and I

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Speaker 2: love that comparison because both were highly effective and both

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Speaker 2: were not sexy.

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Speaker 1: And it got me thinking about this.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because in football, for instance, right, if you

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Speaker 2: have a lead, we want you to be smart. Just

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Speaker 2: run the ball, take a knee, run the clock out,

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01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 2: don't take any chances, right, And in boxing we want

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01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 2: the opposite. In basketball, we might want the opposite. You know,

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Speaker 2: in boxing, if Floyd had a big lead, we're like,

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Speaker 2: go for the knockout, you know, like take wild chances,

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01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:51,680
Speaker 2: you know, put yourself in harm's way where you might

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Speaker 2: get knocked out.

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Speaker 1: That makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: That would be like a football team being up by

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Speaker 2: double digits and we're like, hey, throw it deep, throw

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01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 2: in the double coverage, come on, Like that makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: So it's funny that Floyd and Jokic they looked at it.

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01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:07,680
Speaker 2: Floyd said, if I have a lead, why am I

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Speaker 2: taking wild chances? The goal was to win, And Jokicic

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01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 2: looks at it and says, do you get extra points

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01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:18,599
Speaker 2: for scoring with Flair, you know, it's like, no, I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna be effective, and that's all they worried about.

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Speaker 2: And I thought that's why they were successful, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: they were sold short of their accomplishments. But I think

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Speaker 2: that's an absolutely great comparison by you Floyd and Jokics.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of similarities there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tons, And you're right, Like one of the things,

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Speaker 3: one of the things we condemn Kyle Shanahan about in

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Speaker 3: his career is the fact that in that Patriots game

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Speaker 3: they weren't more conservative offensively when he was offensive coordinated

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Speaker 3: with the Falcons, that they were throwing the football and

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Speaker 3: going three and out, three and out, three and out,

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Speaker 3: giving the Patriots second chance opportunities that taking the ball

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Speaker 3: down and scoring, and they did, and they forced overtime

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Speaker 3: and they won that Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And still to this.

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Speaker 3: Day that that is something that Shanahan will bear with

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Speaker 3: him for the rest of his coaching career. It's a

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Speaker 3: big part of the story. And you know, and the

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01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 3: reality is you're right. You know, conservative works sometimes and

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Speaker 3: sometimes there's a call for it, and sometimes doing the

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Speaker 3: sexy thing isn't the right thing. It's just the popular thing,

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Speaker 3: and it's the thing that sells the most magazines and

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01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:27,439
Speaker 3: sells the most jerseys. You know, there's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: lot more Anthony Edwards jerseys sold after this postseason. Then

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Speaker 3: there will be Nicola jokicch And I think that says

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Speaker 3: something about us as a society, but it also says

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Speaker 3: something about sport. Sometimes the most effective strategy isn't the

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Speaker 3: most popular strategy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: And guys, let's be honest, Jokici, he deserved this MVP,

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Speaker 4: all of the all of the Jello talk. As much

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Speaker 4: as we love the discourse, and it is fantastic discourse,

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Speaker 4: it makes for great radio, it makes for great TV.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, he's the best player

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Speaker 4: in the sport. You gotta kiss the ring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, that's Jared Smith FSR.

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Speaker 2: Betting analyst Rich Ornberger with US Penn State All American.

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Speaker 2: He will blow torch some pork shoulder over there. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: in the market for anything. I'm Brian No coming up next,

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Speaker 2: Rapid Fire. We each have three betting selections for you

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Speaker 2: before we get on out of here.

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Speaker 1: That's on the way.

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Props to the crew here, our guy Shay, trusted producer, Shay.

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Speaker 2: I can't say your last name. How do you say

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Speaker 2: your last name?

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Speaker 1: It's Mogan Garden. Thank you, appreciate the assist right there.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully it'll just be like Derek White right with the

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01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics needed to get the four assists. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for the assist. Chris Burfett, our technical producer, crushing the updates,

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Speaker 2: crushing life. That'd be Isaac Loewenkron Top of the Hour,

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Speaker 2: up on game, LaVar Arrington, t J. Hushman's Oda Plexico Burus.

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Speaker 2: They got you covered. Have we got some picks to make?

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Speaker 1: Let's do it rapid fire. All right, Jared, we'll start

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Speaker 1: with you. What do you like?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm getting hammered in the baseball market so far

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Speaker 4: this year, but we are going to stay consistent.

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Speaker 1: We'll be on the grind and here we go. Three

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Speaker 1: baseball picks for you.

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Speaker 4: Let's start in the Rfie Nurfe Field Royals Angels, no

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01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 4: run first inning, Cole Reagan's Tyler Anderson, fantastic pitching matchup tonight,

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01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,480
Speaker 4: Anderson seven and one to the Nerfe more of a

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01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 4: finesse pitcher. Reagan's is an a six and two Nerfey record.

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01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 4: He throws gas. We'll go your fee Dodgers Padres. Love

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01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:40,120
Speaker 4: the ending last night. I think we carry over with

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01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 4: a hot start today. James Paxton, Matt Waldron. Both of

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01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:46,000
Speaker 4: those guys kind of on the struggle bus this season,

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01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 4: especially Matt Waldron, who's giving up a three to sixty

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01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:50,839
Speaker 4: batting average in the first inning. And finally, Paul Skeen's

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Speaker 4: making his major league debut shortly in Pittsburgh. We are

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Speaker 4: gonna go under his strikeout prop of six and a half. Listen,

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Speaker 4: he's been fantastic at Triple A. He's a rock star.

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01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 4: But I think nerves and just a short leash today

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01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 4: in his major league gave you under six and a

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Speaker 4: half strikeouts for Paul Schemes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, love that a lot. I'm gonna stay with

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Speaker 1: the NBA for all of my picks today.

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Speaker 3: Uh give me, Oh, actually, I just lost my page here,

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Speaker 3: gotta get back to it.

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01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 1: Actually, Brian No, could you jump in for a second.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, if we If that helps Derek White

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01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 2: get to four assists, absolutely I'd be happy to rich.

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01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going with this.

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01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 2: I call it my it's so square, it's sharp betting

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Speaker 2: card here today, I'm going puck on you guys. Huh

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01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 2: all of these picks. Yeah, give me Igor Shasterkin. He

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01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 2: has been amazing for the New York Rangers, standing on

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01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:50,200
Speaker 2: his head. I'm taking over thirty and a half saves

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01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 2: in Game four tonight he had forty five saves. The

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Speaker 2: previous game, he had fifty four saves in Game two

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01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 2: that was a double overtime game. But he has been sensational.

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01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:04,960
Speaker 2: I think he gets the thirty one saves. You're facing elimination,

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01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 2: right and if you're the Hurricanes, they're gonna be uper aggressive.

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01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 2: I love it going over thirty and a half saves

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01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 2: for just Thirkin. Give me over in the Stars Avs

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01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:19,320
Speaker 2: game over six and a half. Colorado led the NHL

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01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 2: in goals this season. Dallas was just behind them, ranked third.

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01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:28,040
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable with over six and a half and bounce

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01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 2: back situation here for the Boston Celtics, I'll lay the

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Speaker 2: seven and a half. When they're focused, they're nasty, and

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01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:36,440
Speaker 2: they're way better than Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I'll lay it with Boston this yeason.

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01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:41,839
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Well we're matched up on one of these picks.

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Speaker 3: That'll be Boston. I'm laying the points as well. I

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01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 3: think the Celtics will bounce back and overcome what happened

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01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:51,840
Speaker 3: to them against the Cavs last outing. I'm also taking

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01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 3: another favorite. I'm laying the two and a half points

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Speaker 3: with the Mavericks. I just think they're the better team,

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01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:00,920
Speaker 3: even though I do think that Okac probably has the

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01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 3: better player.

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Speaker 1: Playing right now.

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Speaker 3: And then give me the Padres plus one and a

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01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:08,760
Speaker 3: half on the run line. I feel like there's a

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01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 3: little bit of some magic happening with this lineup, the

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01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 3: home crowd behind them. I agree with what Jared Smith

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01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 3: said about Matt Waldron has been roughed up a couple

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01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 3: of times, especially in the early innings. But give me

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01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 3: the Padres plus one and a half on the run line.

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01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:29,000
Speaker 4: Okay, hockey pick Therapino, I was not expecting.

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01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, what do you think about that, Jared? Well,

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Speaker 1: here's what I do think.

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Speaker 4: I have an exact on the Rangers to beat the

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01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:38,000
Speaker 4: Oilers in the Stanley Cup Final. It pays forty two

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01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:40,280
Speaker 4: to one, and it's like a five thousand dollars payout,

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01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:42,760
Speaker 4: So I am rooting very I mean, the Rangers are

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01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 4: gonna make the next round.

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01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 1: The Oilers won in overtime last night.

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01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 4: We're getting close to that thing, starting to have some

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01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 4: real life to it.

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Speaker 1: So obviously I'm a Rangers fan. That's kind of why

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Speaker 1: I made the bed.

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Speaker 4: But Oilers. This the hockey postseason, guys. We all talk

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Speaker 4: about it a lot because it doesn't get national headlines,

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Speaker 4: but every single one of these games is like overtime

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Speaker 4: nail biters.

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Speaker 1: It's so intense. I love it. I think it's the

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Speaker 1: best postseason of any sport. I think there are some

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Speaker 1: crazy outcomes. Man, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Every now and then you get a yawner. You know,

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Speaker 2: you get an easy win here and there. But it

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Speaker 2: does seem like it's trauma left and right real fast.

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Speaker 2: How about your Knicks? How about Jalen Brunson right in

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Speaker 2: Game four bounce back situation.

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Speaker 4: Listen, guys, I think with the Knicks, I just like

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Speaker 4: strap In and I get ready for a battle every

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Speaker 4: time they play.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea it was no way.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a lot of fun. Absolutely, always enjoy it. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: you have a great day. We'll catch you soon