Speaker 1: Forever. Look mad oh, I see you? Why and look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that nulture? Yes? Goodness, let's ding
Speaker 1: dong less Culturesta's calling And um, here's the thing, guys,
Speaker 1: Phase two of Project chart Operation is commencing. Is in
Speaker 1: effect we are we're launching face. Do you have chart Operation?
Speaker 1: If you guys don't remember, chart Operation was our big
Speaker 1: campaign to get to I think it was some arbitrary
Speaker 1: number like three D reviews. I'm tired of not being
Speaker 1: in the top ten comedy podcast. I'm tired alitics is
Speaker 1: really for us to be featured in the new noteworthy
Speaker 1: And I don't know if we're either of those. Well,
Speaker 1: what do we have to do to let everyone know
Speaker 1: we are? We are not worthy? I guess we're no
Speaker 1: longer new. It's literally some guy at iTunes named Peter.
Speaker 1: I don't know what let's call him Peter. I don't
Speaker 1: know what their name is or their gender, but I
Speaker 1: just I think it's it's literally up to like one
Speaker 1: person is the gate keeper to all of that. Well,
Speaker 1: we need to figure out what there is. No. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not one for like being too politick. E
Speaker 1: with with with with these people in politics? You have
Speaker 1: to do whatever it takes. That's actually a rule of
Speaker 1: culture number fourteen and politics. You have to do whatever
Speaker 1: it takes. And so I am willing to go do
Speaker 1: up to and up to a certain amount of physical
Speaker 1: actually and sexual. I'll say it right here, I'll get
Speaker 1: sexual to get us on the new and noteworthy. You're
Speaker 1: saying this on August twenty one, the day speaking of
Speaker 1: sex and politics, the day that we find out that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump directly violated campaign finance laws. So no, you
Speaker 1: do not do whatever it takes, because people who do
Speaker 1: whatever it takes and being president and should be impeached
Speaker 1: and go to prison. So I actually I reject that rule.
Speaker 1: This is history. How do you know that I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to get out of even about Jennaker. Out
Speaker 1: of that I would I would never stop fucking the
Speaker 1: only thing that we that we have to focus on here.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that we're just making this a little bit topical.
Speaker 1: Ever since the Ombrose episode. We are a political par
Speaker 1: We're a political podcast now. It's actually rule of culture
Speaker 1: number three. This is a political podcast now. So I
Speaker 1: have to say, uh that yes, we're in project We're
Speaker 1: in Face two part Project to Operation it's really terrible.
Speaker 1: Toperation does not roll off the tongue, but eat the syllables.
Speaker 1: If you would be so kind, especially if you're a
Speaker 1: new listener, if you would be so kind as to
Speaker 1: give us a five star review and rating and then
Speaker 1: review us with some words, we would love it. Actually,
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do is um and be honest, because
Speaker 1: we encourage honestly, and we're actually going to read uh
Speaker 1: biting lee honest critique. We love this review. It's really
Speaker 1: good because it's a dead on review and they really
Speaker 1: take They held us accountable for our ship, and that's
Speaker 1: exactly right. They held us accountable, but they also gave
Speaker 1: us the props. They gave us the props, but they
Speaker 1: balanced that with some venom. And here she blows. So
Speaker 1: this is from she Blow Geen Gna Ramsey. Okay, too soon,
Speaker 1: but the title is of corks. You should listen. They
Speaker 1: gave us four stars. Four let's find out why we
Speaker 1: lost a star. Here we go. Such a great podcast. Although,
Speaker 1: like all great real housewives and drag queens, as soon
Speaker 1: as they got a little bit gay famous, they convinced
Speaker 1: themselves that the world wants to hear them sing. But
Speaker 1: karaoke is easy enough to skip over, and it's worth
Speaker 1: a bit of scrubbing to bask in the wit and banter.
Speaker 1: Matt and Bowen have a sparkling tension, but you can
Speaker 1: tell they really love and respect each other. Parentheses I
Speaker 1: think later episodes of feud Betty and Joan, but with
Speaker 1: less testosterone Alright, Earlier episodes benefit from a bit more
Speaker 1: focus on the central question of the show, what was
Speaker 1: the most formative culture in your development, and a bit
Speaker 1: less focus on what the title of the episode will be. Similarly,
Speaker 1: the I Don't Think So Honey segment began as a
Speaker 1: gutsy and hilarious indictment of cultural wrongs, but has lately
Speaker 1: lost Steve, becoming a litany of minor inconveniences that happened
Speaker 1: to either host on the way to the studio. Nevertheless,
Speaker 1: there's a charm in spades, and the guests are exciting,
Speaker 1: fresh and rarely straight white men. It's a podcast that
Speaker 1: sounds like the future of comedy. Oh that's very nice.
Speaker 1: Definitely listen. Wow, Wow, it's it's it has it all
Speaker 1: and I really respect the hell out of Geen Geen
Speaker 1: g Ramsey. I just want to say I want to
Speaker 1: threaten all the listeners right now. If you want us
Speaker 1: to stop singing, we will. We will, and then you'll
Speaker 1: never hear us sing again. And that's a threat. That's
Speaker 1: I think. I think for me, it's like you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a condition, it's a it's an agreeable condition.
Speaker 1: But this is all to say, leave us review. Be
Speaker 1: as honest as you if you hate this. If you
Speaker 1: hate us, leave the review. If if it's a complicated
Speaker 1: uh love, leave a review. Whatever it is, please be
Speaker 1: sure to qualify it by writing some words like gen
Speaker 1: Gady Ramsey did it's so fun. We were ending them.
Speaker 1: Speaking of podcast hosts who often sing on their podcast,
Speaker 1: we have a special guest in the special guest in
Speaker 1: the studio and and it's amazing when a podcast crossover happens. Yes,
Speaker 1: and very rare, but very rare. And but we're honoring
Speaker 1: this one because she really like she cast a net
Speaker 1: by saying, I'm going to be in New York. What
Speaker 1: podcast should I do? Uh? And then people people recommended us,
Speaker 1: and I think it's a natural our good Judy over
Speaker 1: at your Lauren Laptus gave us a big sort of endorsement,
Speaker 1: and yes, if Lauren. If Lauren's gonna vouch for this guest,
Speaker 1: then you know why not have her on. She's the
Speaker 1: host of Natch Beauty and a fantastic pod fab you
Speaker 1: lust you know what. And also you can have more
Speaker 1: than one interest and get your life on this. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Like I feel like if you're one interest,
Speaker 1: like is like like we're just giving you culture. No no, no,
Speaker 1: She's giving you culture, beauty, comedy, veganism, veganism. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about also music, also music. She is truly
Speaker 1: so multi talented it and she does something that I
Speaker 1: don't think either of us can do. To be honest, well,
Speaker 1: let's hear it. She holds she can hold water for
Speaker 1: a long time. I can do that that and she
Speaker 1: can hold the space up top and like the opening
Speaker 1: block by herself and just like go on and be
Speaker 1: compelling and like that is a skill. That was a
Speaker 1: very backhanded compliment. I'm saying, neither of us can do that.
Speaker 1: You you want to test me, okay, you want to
Speaker 1: take me outside and see how long he gets? Talk?
Speaker 1: You want to bump? You want you where do you
Speaker 1: want to bomp? I would meet you wherever and talk.
Speaker 1: I want to bump with our guests in the best
Speaker 1: way possible. So please welcome our guests. Jackie Dan has
Speaker 1: me a bump let. Here's the thing, and this is
Speaker 1: an l A girl who's only done coke one time.
Speaker 1: You've escaped coke in a coke city. I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of it, or around me. If I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: a lot of comedians are poor and they don't afford Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did in London when I was twenty two years old, okay,
Speaker 1: and never going in the back of a club of
Speaker 1: an oyster car. Okay. And then and then describe the
Speaker 1: rest of it. What was the give us the I
Speaker 1: hated it. If I'm being honest, you have to you
Speaker 1: have to snort it in my nostrils, in my nasal
Speaker 1: cavity was fucked up for like a month. That's the
Speaker 1: part that's I don't I don't think so. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Snorting drug no, not for me. I
Speaker 1: would swallow my drug. I would, I would, you know,
Speaker 1: I would obviously smoke my drug. Right, we have the
Speaker 1: technology now where we don't have to do that. I
Speaker 1: love a good tincture. I love a tincture. It's like
Speaker 1: um tongue sorbs into your body. I love a good
Speaker 1: CBD tink. Oh god, this is the summer of CBD.
Speaker 1: I think it. Sure is. Everyone get to kombucha. Now
Speaker 1: they're putting it in boba t there's boba CBD, boba
Speaker 1: in l A. I don't know this. It just like marijuana.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's not. There's no psychoactive effect. So it's
Speaker 1: so CBD is different from THHC and that CBD is
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Oh god, I'm pretending like I
Speaker 1: know the chemistry of this same it's not. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: what Jack you was saying. It's not a psychoactive it's
Speaker 1: more about just the anti anxiety. Okay, maybe it's for
Speaker 1: pain relief. Yes, okay, I like that. That to me
Speaker 1: pairs well with a nice tea. Yeah, yes, so CBD.
Speaker 1: I guess CBD and Indica are sort of in the
Speaker 1: same think of them in the same way. They're not.
Speaker 1: I'm not fully equivalent making them equivalent, but that's what that's.
Speaker 1: I can think of them that way because Indica will
Speaker 1: suck you up, Indica will make me shuts me down.
Speaker 1: That's that can be helpful in certain situations. I guess yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess you need some rest, turn and mind off,
Speaker 1: take a nap. Remember like being like right out of college,
Speaker 1: like at the end of college and just thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: if I want to go to bed, I'll smoke weed
Speaker 1: and just get whatever I'm getting my hands on smoking
Speaker 1: and then up until four in the morning, and like
Speaker 1: wondering why. But it also it affects you for days.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm very delicate. You're a very feminine, delicate woman.
Speaker 1: She's only three three tall, she's only three inches tall.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on a bunch of phone yellow pages. She's
Speaker 1: sitting on the yellow pages, which which we have of
Speaker 1: being tiny and sitting on a bunch of yellow pages
Speaker 1: is what being a woman is all about about. That is,
Speaker 1: at least a woman in the entertainment and that is
Speaker 1: uh femininity. That's a beautiful feminine. That is beautiful, beautiful
Speaker 1: modern tiny. Okay, let's get into this conversation about beauty
Speaker 1: because okay, and with let me ask this is it?
Speaker 1: What's what is the thing about reconciling drugs and beauty
Speaker 1: is so interesting to me? Right because like, on the
Speaker 1: one hand, you would think most substances counteract that, and
Speaker 1: so like I don't know, like is there responsible drug
Speaker 1: use while also putting beauty as your as your top priority.
Speaker 1: I think it's all self careen balance and a lot
Speaker 1: of people self medicaid in many ways with many substances liquids,
Speaker 1: et cetera. And if you can handle it, then do
Speaker 1: you relax to what you need to do? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't judge, but it's such a thing like the
Speaker 1: woman who excuse me, I wanted organic apple in that drink.
Speaker 1: Cigarette smokes a cigarette, smokes a cigarette. It's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know any maybe maybe uh, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: prioritized totally totally. You know, do you baby about that?
Speaker 1: So do what makes you feel good? Should I should?
Speaker 1: If we want to keep our skin? Word like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a really good one. That was hereditary realness?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I haven't you've seen it? Okay, but but
Speaker 1: I immediately am terrified of tongue pops now, yeah, because
Speaker 1: it'll change everything after you see it. It's not like
Speaker 1: there was no Lizza Edwards like master cut with the heredity. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to see that. And there's there is that
Speaker 1: there is a cut of hereditary tongue pop. For what
Speaker 1: do you mean what they did with what do you
Speaker 1: mean that? And then it's like, don't sing. Yes, y'all
Speaker 1: are brave for reading ideas reviews. I stopped reading Money
Speaker 1: year ago and it changed my life. Oh I mean
Speaker 1: actually really most about that earlier. They're so sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: For the most podcast reviews, it's like people don't read
Speaker 1: the comments. But in terms of podcast it is nice
Speaker 1: to get some helpful critique. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what's going to happen now now that we've said
Speaker 1: be honest, they're going to do as a bit, They're
Speaker 1: gonna do like mean things. Don't now I'm worried. No,
Speaker 1: this is fear speaking as an artist. For me, if
Speaker 1: somebody says you do this too much, you don't do
Speaker 1: this enough, then it's in my head and when I'm
Speaker 1: trying to be entertaining that, that's in the back of
Speaker 1: my head. You two are so fucking good and funny
Speaker 1: and amazing, and you're bouncing off of each other like
Speaker 1: versus McEnroe. I just watched that movie because I love
Speaker 1: Shy McEnroe. Yes, yes, he would be a great look.
Speaker 1: He gives you the essence of mcinroe. I recently watched
Speaker 1: a little bit of have you seen that movie when
Speaker 1: he was in that large one Trier directed? Um um,
Speaker 1: I see all this work. Fan of both. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: this is my original question. Yes, at the gay club,
Speaker 1: at the gay discotheque, you'll see everyone drinking of vodka
Speaker 1: soda and also, you know, universally this is like the
Speaker 1: healthy cocktail. Is this true? I think clear liquor um
Speaker 1: soda water Is that the one that doesn't dehydrate you
Speaker 1: feels like it would hydrate, So soda water, vodka a line.
Speaker 1: So we're doing a good thing with yes, yes, and
Speaker 1: we're I think would be fine. They say yes, especially
Speaker 1: if it's GMO. Now when when when Matt says they
Speaker 1: say juice is poison, he means his ex boyfriends, My
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend has drilled into my brain that all juice
Speaker 1: is poison because of the amount of sugar that's in
Speaker 1: juice and sugar natural sugar, still sugar, etcetera, etcetera. The
Speaker 1: modern sense of juice is now like, oh, it's it's
Speaker 1: just the things and the fibers are broken down. But
Speaker 1: it's it's like he was. He would talk about it
Speaker 1: like it was as evila soda wo well, I don't know,
Speaker 1: because I've heard you buy those nineteen dollar juices and
Speaker 1: you're thinking you're being healthy and then you find out
Speaker 1: it was like flash pasteurized, so that all the all
Speaker 1: the new dreams are gone, Like what are we even doing?
Speaker 1: That's the thing too, is like it's I fully feel
Speaker 1: like now like the health thing is like something that
Speaker 1: they've caught onto, Like that's a trend that they're like
Speaker 1: they're ruining everything. Just tell people that what they're drinking
Speaker 1: is good for them in terms of health, like make
Speaker 1: it green and they will buy it at whatever the car.
Speaker 1: So that is something I think to be aware of. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: for sure. So that so since you're hosting a lifestyle podcast,
Speaker 1: lifestyle comedy podcast, like I mean, you have to sort
Speaker 1: of pointed at point out the ridiculousness of it. Oh
Speaker 1: that's all I do. Oh, that's all we do. We
Speaker 1: because I just feel the beauty industry takes itself so
Speaker 1: seriously and it's also so intimidating, and they want it
Speaker 1: to be that way. They want you to feel like
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, am I cool enough for
Speaker 1: that lip? Or like, oh am I fancy enough for
Speaker 1: that perfume? Or whatever, and I'm just over here, like, honey,
Speaker 1: let's really get into it. You test on animals and
Speaker 1: you don't have no shades. The animal testing is like
Speaker 1: a pervasive thing. It's so bad. And they lie la la.
Speaker 1: I thought with Mary Kay and the very prevalent and
Speaker 1: the big dogs are all testing a big dogs are
Speaker 1: testing on the rabbits. She's a big offender, big offender, girls.
Speaker 1: You know what, I think this might be time for
Speaker 1: us to change ding dong as an opening ding dong
Speaker 1: lass cultures calling because we cribbed that from ding dong
Speaker 1: avon calling. I'm okay with it, okay, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: So maybe you know what, honestly, maybe we're taking it back.
Speaker 1: We're taking it back, reappropriate it. I also don't like
Speaker 1: ding dong avon calling because ding dong is did they
Speaker 1: actually say ding dong? Well, Edward scissor Hands would, but
Speaker 1: she didn't say ding dong. I googled avon calling and
Speaker 1: Diana came up. But then also like old vintage posters
Speaker 1: came up where they would include the words ding dong
Speaker 1: avon calling. So but that was probably just for the
Speaker 1: post could kind of hear it, right, You're right, you're
Speaker 1: right right. I have a question, what's the funniest beauty campaign?
Speaker 1: What's okay? What's easy? Easy? So I don't know when
Speaker 1: this started happening, but they sexualize everything. So there is
Speaker 1: a face mask called glow Job, and I don't remember
Speaker 1: the company, but they test on animals most likely, so
Speaker 1: I think it's benefit benefit tests on animals. But everything
Speaker 1: is sexual. It's like I want my face to look commy.
Speaker 1: I'm going to cover my face in sucking oil and
Speaker 1: look like I got cocky. They sexualize everything. Orgasm is
Speaker 1: like thenars blush, it's like at the number one selling blush. Ever,
Speaker 1: that's probably where it started that when I used to
Speaker 1: watch TV with my dad and those commercials, it would
Speaker 1: be so uncomfortable, feel like I don't want to be
Speaker 1: in the room with my dad during for me, honestly,
Speaker 1: Like I guess like the thing that I always think
Speaker 1: is so funny and I'm fascinated and by the time
Speaker 1: I die, I have to have one is like a
Speaker 1: fragrance campaign, like what with these actresses with these huge
Speaker 1: name actresses like running through the street like and it's
Speaker 1: like like that Charlie Starren where she rips off the
Speaker 1: commercials are cannon and but the funniest one I think
Speaker 1: is it's like it's like a movie. I think bas
Speaker 1: Lehman director now number five. It was No. Number five
Speaker 1: with number but also Rodrigo sent too. The actor was
Speaker 1: in it, and like there's a narrative, there's a storyline.
Speaker 1: It's very like sort of like they get in like
Speaker 1: a big lover's quarrel and she like pushes him away
Speaker 1: and she's like, literally, literally, I can do the whole thing.
Speaker 1: He's sitting in his like Parisian apartment, are likeever He
Speaker 1: goes when did I wake into this stream? I was
Speaker 1: the only person in the world who didn't know who
Speaker 1: she was. And it's this famous actress Nicole Kiman running
Speaker 1: through the street in the gown and the trucks are hunking,
Speaker 1: and she's like she gets in a cab and he's
Speaker 1: in the cabin and he looks at her in her
Speaker 1: eyes and she looks back and it's this moment and
Speaker 1: she just goes to the driver drive and they go
Speaker 1: and then it's a love story and like he's asking
Speaker 1: her who are you? Who are you? And she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm a dancer. I love to dance. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: need to watch this video everyone. It's a nine minutes
Speaker 1: on Claire Dulon plays under the whole thing, and then
Speaker 1: like they said goodbye at the end, and like there's
Speaker 1: this moment at the end where like he's looking across
Speaker 1: the city at her in her eyes and she's going
Speaker 1: into a movie per and everyone's obset with her, and
Speaker 1: then it just says Chanel number five and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I love this as a thing. These A list star,
Speaker 1: celebrity driven power commercials. You know how much money they
Speaker 1: drive up her house to get her to do that?
Speaker 1: Truck full She's truck full of hundred dollar bills. Her
Speaker 1: agent sends the email, they want you to do this,
Speaker 1: they Natalie Portman says, no, have them drive up to
Speaker 1: my house with the money, offer physical cash. Yes. Do
Speaker 1: you remember the Britney Spears perfume commercial Curious, Yes, pushing
Speaker 1: a hunter. Yes, she was strong and once upon a
Speaker 1: time there and a hunter and then one day, but
Speaker 1: one day he did something a little crazy and then
Speaker 1: felt happily ever after. You know, everybody has one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the curious. Never give them a fucking four
Speaker 1: star review. Did you hear that yeah, five stars, five stars,
Speaker 1: only five across the ball, five across that game is
Speaker 1: you're wrong? Do you know what also we have we have?
Speaker 1: I mean we have the brittany fragrances. We have also
Speaker 1: Beyonce heat. Remember everybody had by j Loo, everyone had
Speaker 1: Glow by Jello. My mom said she didn't like it, it
Speaker 1: it was too sweet. Do you remember? Do you remember
Speaker 1: when Gaga was out promoting her fragrance fame and she
Speaker 1: kept saying, well, I remember the first when Lady Gaga
Speaker 1: first was famous. There were these stories that she wanted
Speaker 1: to develop a fragrance and that she wanted them. She
Speaker 1: wanted the fragrance to smell like blood and seem then
Speaker 1: and then um, and then she would go out on
Speaker 1: these interviews and the fragrance finally came out in twelve
Speaker 1: I think, and then she would be like she just
Speaker 1: was insane at this point. She was like smoking weed
Speaker 1: every day and she was going on these interviews and
Speaker 1: she was like, I won't and she put on a
Speaker 1: Madonna accent. She was like, I want you to like
Speaker 1: a slut like that. She would go and say the
Speaker 1: ship and then really god that that that campaign was bonkers,
Speaker 1: like beauty. I don't even remember that that yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys remember like the tag at the end of
Speaker 1: the commercials Gaga Lady Gaga like she was full like
Speaker 1: still in this weird David Bowie fantasy. But um, this
Speaker 1: is all to say, I think beauty campaigns give us
Speaker 1: that insanity, right, because you're not getting that anywhere else. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that it's important that they feel a little crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like and they and they can never stand out I mean,
Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about on the podcast ten
Speaker 1: years later. And last, I mean, the Nicole Kiman one
Speaker 1: was iconic. Also one that I liked recently was the
Speaker 1: Natalie Apartment. Mr. You Are Stuff because I liked the
Speaker 1: song that they used, which is Escaping Mirror. Oh It's
Speaker 1: a Piece of My Heart by Janice Choplin. It's really
Speaker 1: good and she looks adorable. She's giving you junior prom
Speaker 1: the best way. Yeah. I mean the joke that I
Speaker 1: have is Natalie Apartment is like somehow sixteen and Millie
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown is somehow for years old and they've somehow
Speaker 1: just like I don't know what happened, but they switched
Speaker 1: Freaky Friday. They I love that. I mean, Milly Bubby
Speaker 1: brown is even at the VMA she was she looked
Speaker 1: younger than Michael Vonatti, who was there. I was hoping
Speaker 1: the VMAs would come up. Oh, let me tell you
Speaker 1: what did you watch? I didn't watch. I was one
Speaker 1: of the very many people who didn't. But I looked
Speaker 1: at photos and I feel like I see what I
Speaker 1: need to see. Well, Mike was Madonna wearing Madonna. It
Speaker 1: happened with that. Can you unpack her speech? I will
Speaker 1: unpack it. And it also was gonna be like I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, but I'm happy to talk about
Speaker 1: it now. I'm happy to talk about it now. Madonna
Speaker 1: looked like Bartalk, the bat from anastage. That is what
Speaker 1: she looked like, like if post malone. Yeah, and wanted
Speaker 1: to appropriate culture in the worst way. The speech that
Speaker 1: she gave for Aretha Franklin was so crazy, disrespectful and
Speaker 1: then like, you're talking about herself. She talked about herself
Speaker 1: the whole time, you guys, That's what she did, That's
Speaker 1: what that's what she did with Michael Jackson. It was
Speaker 1: so long. Stop letting Madonna eulogize these legendary black artists
Speaker 1: at the vm as apparently they had already asked her
Speaker 1: to do Video of the Year, and when when the
Speaker 1: whole when they showed the clip of wreath singing and
Speaker 1: there was like this whole picture of her, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is nice, it'll be tasteful. And then Madonna walked
Speaker 1: out looking the way she looked and like with the
Speaker 1: grills in as always, and I was just like, this
Speaker 1: feels like a huge mistake. But then also the whole
Speaker 1: VMA show was like I'm sorry, it was so crazy,
Speaker 1: warped bad. It was no one available. I feel like
Speaker 1: I was like this, they were making calls last week,
Speaker 1: like they need to fill these thingies. What also was
Speaker 1: like obvious and apparent is that when people could leave,
Speaker 1: they left like there was like I think seven major
Speaker 1: celebrities there in the beginning, and then as the night
Speaker 1: went on, as they as you could tell, they won
Speaker 1: the awards they were told they were going to win,
Speaker 1: they were they were out to the point where the
Speaker 1: only artist there at the end was Camilla Cabello, which
Speaker 1: I think it might have been why she won Artist
Speaker 1: or in Video of the Year because she was the
Speaker 1: only one there literally the Video of the Year. All
Speaker 1: the other nominees were not there, and I was like,
Speaker 1: do you think it's Do you think she won? Because
Speaker 1: they all left of the Year for Havana and Artist
Speaker 1: of the Year Arts. She won Artist. She has one
Speaker 1: song I do like am suck of Valagimore. Baby a
Speaker 1: Baby We cannot say, but baby girl. So was this
Speaker 1: year was? This year? Would you say was a lower
Speaker 1: low than last year was? Because the last year was
Speaker 1: the lowest. This was the lowest, even without a Katie
Speaker 1: Katy Perry trying to do jokes and ship you wished for.
Speaker 1: Katy Perry tried to jokes because I'll say this, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get shade for this, but I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 1: at least she is not a comedian and was bombing.
Speaker 1: They opened the show with Kevin Hart and Tiffany Hattrish
Speaker 1: and they couldn't land joke. It took Tiffany Hattish forty
Speaker 1: five minutes to get to get to some of these punchlines.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it was a mess. I don't know
Speaker 1: if like the prompter was up, was was off, or
Speaker 1: like or maybe she just really has that much difficulty
Speaker 1: reading off a prompter. Remember her her doing the Oscar nominations,
Speaker 1: but it was embarrassing, and Kevin Hart was just as bad.
Speaker 1: And then literally every center that went up on that
Speaker 1: stage it was like everyone was blind up there. It
Speaker 1: was I mean, and also not even just that, but
Speaker 1: the performances like I don't know, I am just old
Speaker 1: now I guess who the fuck is Juice World. I
Speaker 1: didn't know who half the people were. And it's depressing
Speaker 1: to me because the MTV was so important to me
Speaker 1: and them as the pretty much every V until like
Speaker 1: three or four years ago. Yeah, and it's depressing how
Speaker 1: far we have followed. It's horrible. And then like literally
Speaker 1: the most the thing people are talking about the most
Speaker 1: is how long and boring and inappropriate Madonna's speech was.
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is like it's it's and
Speaker 1: I think it's generally because no one cares to be there.
Speaker 1: There were some highlights. Nicki Minaj's performance was unbelievable. Okay,
Speaker 1: he is great. I mean, Jaylos was was pretty good,
Speaker 1: but but it wasn't like Beyonce performance. It wasn't um,
Speaker 1: you know, all these things. It just it was like
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Speaker 1: We uh, we get a hint of MTV from Jackie?
Speaker 1: I think it's time to ask the question, Jackie, what
Speaker 1: was the culture that made you? Culture is? For me?
Speaker 1: This was such a struggle. I had dinner with my
Speaker 1: husband two or three nights ago and I said, I
Speaker 1: need to pick a culture for less culture reas we
Speaker 1: can go through more than one. I was going to
Speaker 1: say SIMS culture because I started playing the SIMS in
Speaker 1: two thousands and have still play it to this day.
Speaker 1: You're ere up to four and now are you still
Speaker 1: playing original? Well? I am now on SIMS free play,
Speaker 1: which is the iPad version, but I've been playing it
Speaker 1: for five years. Don't get me started. I've done, but
Speaker 1: I've I've talked sims pretty heavily on other mediums, so
Speaker 1: I don't know if I need But here's the other
Speaker 1: here's the other ones I was gonna say. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say pop punk culture, meaning like blank, but then
Speaker 1: my husband was like your opposer, and he was like,
Speaker 1: throwing me some bag. We're going to talk about all this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that you said it, now that it's a right.
Speaker 1: But then then I was going to do vegan, but
Speaker 1: vegan talk and throw people. I don't. I want everybody
Speaker 1: have a good time. I party with the vegan. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the one I really was going to talk about
Speaker 1: was maybe it's gonna be a curveball. But I am
Speaker 1: the biggest dog freak dog love dogs. All day long,
Speaker 1: I was teased by dogs walking past me. I didn't
Speaker 1: touch a single one. I didn't get to say hi
Speaker 1: to them. I don't know if it's different culture in
Speaker 1: New York. Like one lady literally yanked the dog away
Speaker 1: from me and I didn't even touch it. I just
Speaker 1: said hi to it. I want to meet every dog.
Speaker 1: I don't care if a person likes me, but every
Speaker 1: dog needs to like I want to meet the dogs,
Speaker 1: touch the dogs, Hug the dogs. I have a dog.
Speaker 1: My dog is my best friend and my everything. I
Speaker 1: love dog people. Dog people are my people. I love dogs.
Speaker 1: You love dogs? You love dogs? Dogs? Do you have
Speaker 1: a dog? Yes? And what kind of dog is? She's
Speaker 1: a mix? She's a Maltese Cocker Spaniels shit sue two Asians. Okay,
Speaker 1: and then what's her name? Her name is shooge. Y'all
Speaker 1: would flip out podcast a visual meaning can you pull
Speaker 1: up a peck now? I really want to. I can't
Speaker 1: believe you'll have it? Hot producer Joe producer Joe has
Speaker 1: a dog, Polly. There's Choogi on the beach. See god, huge,
Speaker 1: just choo a little, just choo a little color color
Speaker 1: on huge a colored tail and in this photo colors
Speaker 1: colored ears. But we only do her tail again. Wait,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. I've never seen a dog with color come
Speaker 1: to l A goes to the most renowned dog colorless, colorless.
Speaker 1: So is there a person that that does like are
Speaker 1: they a hair colors? Like for humans? Dog colors? That's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: That is the most called creative grooming because it's done
Speaker 1: with very specific ingredients that the dog can't feel. It's
Speaker 1: vegetable pigment basically mixed with conditioners, so there's no chemical reaction,
Speaker 1: there's no treatment processing. How long we'll stay died, till
Speaker 1: it till it grows out, like till it fits well,
Speaker 1: if I give her a bath all the time, it
Speaker 1: eventually will fade out, but pretty much permanent. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that it's that that it's
Speaker 1: an ethical thing, because that is I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: people don't realize sometimes maybe because Lena Einbinder will say
Speaker 1: this to me, like they say, uh that you know
Speaker 1: it's fucked up if you you know, miss gender your
Speaker 1: dog or if you like just do all these things
Speaker 1: to your dog, things that your dog has no no saying,
Speaker 1: like those are off limits. But as long as it's
Speaker 1: something like the fact that the dog can't feel these
Speaker 1: chemicals is huge, that's great. I hear that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have such a hard time watching movies and seeing
Speaker 1: animals in them because they don't know that they're on
Speaker 1: that mark. They don't know they're not getting paid. It's
Speaker 1: like when you see somebody like really pull up on
Speaker 1: the horse or like the horse falls. I just I
Speaker 1: just get so upset. I mean, and it's not it's
Speaker 1: all animals. Anytime the horse is nahing and like the legs,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well that animal can't be like it's not
Speaker 1: like taking a cigarette after this and being like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I thought I could have given one, right right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, is there is there any way
Speaker 1: to do not that, not that you know, but like,
Speaker 1: is there a responsible way to do that? Well? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I used to walk dogs. I used to
Speaker 1: be a celebrity dogwalker. Oh, we're gonna get into this,
Speaker 1: and my boss was a dog an animal wrangler, and
Speaker 1: I know how it works. I know, you know, so
Speaker 1: some are treated better than others. But that at the
Speaker 1: end of the movie says no animals were harmed. It
Speaker 1: can that can be completely bought When you see the
Speaker 1: Pinnacle for me, yeah, when a horse falls, like no,
Speaker 1: I hate it. That's why I love that c G.
Speaker 1: I like a Game of Thrones. They it's all c G.
Speaker 1: I really yeah, I'm pretty sure they might do some
Speaker 1: stuff standing on the horse, but like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to small anything. But there's like big
Speaker 1: battle scenes and it's all faked. I heard today that, Um,
Speaker 1: it's interesting you bring that up because I heard some
Speaker 1: ta about the Final is a game of MS, which
Speaker 1: is that they just shot like the final battle sequence
Speaker 1: and it took fifty five nights to film. You know,
Speaker 1: they fake, they fake, they shoot fake ones too, and
Speaker 1: they said they were shooting three fake endings. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And they said that it's like it's like a revolutionary,
Speaker 1: like um way of making sure there's no spoilers. They
Speaker 1: only sent out digital scripts that the actors only have
Speaker 1: a few hours, so they have to learn their like
Speaker 1: dense dialogue in a few hours. And then the second
Speaker 1: after um, like the scene was done shot, like the
Speaker 1: scene would it would not even self delete, it would
Speaker 1: disintegrate so that it just was never there. It's like
Speaker 1: a program that they're using where they literally the script
Speaker 1: only exists for a few god, and you can't even
Speaker 1: like screenshot or anything. Wow. Um, okay, we need to
Speaker 1: get into if we're allowed to talk about this dog
Speaker 1: Walker to the Stars some of the clients. Okay, so
Speaker 1: I was again thinking about this. Okay, so there are
Speaker 1: big people that you give him. I'll tell you off there.
Speaker 1: But I was thinking it'd be fun to reveal one
Speaker 1: of my big clients. I've never said this. Um, I
Speaker 1: can say it because I never saw anything. I used
Speaker 1: to walk Josh Groban's dog. Oh my god, is he is?
Speaker 1: He a nice guy? So nice? And he is dog Sweeney,
Speaker 1: a wheat and terrier. Shout out to Sweeney. I love
Speaker 1: Sweeney so much. I miss him. I haven't seen them
Speaker 1: in years and years, but like, that's my dog right there,
Speaker 1: so much. Okay, it's so sweet. That's great. Nash is
Speaker 1: very similar to Sweeney. Like they're both kind of I
Speaker 1: don't want to say dopey, but like lovable, like a
Speaker 1: little lovable, sweet shaggy doll. I love that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And ultimately it's extremely talented musicians, both
Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, yeah, I bet I between a musician
Speaker 1: for sure. Now this is my thing with people who
Speaker 1: dog walk. I have friends who dog walk. I would
Speaker 1: It would be the hardest job in the world, rules
Speaker 1: because I would develop attachments yes to these these animals,
Speaker 1: and I see it like Lena, I'll name drop Lena again, Lena. Hi,
Speaker 1: if they're listening, Um, Lena seems to really bond with
Speaker 1: these dogs, and I'm like, I can never do that.
Speaker 1: It's not that I have the opposite experience, but like
Speaker 1: the dogs I've walked, maybe they're not good. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: my dogs were all Like I said, I worked for
Speaker 1: a trainer. My dogs were so well yeah. Well also,
Speaker 1: you know, I think those people really cared for the dogs,
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, like put a lot
Speaker 1: of time and I dogs had for this one dog
Speaker 1: that was just awful. I have had a few awfuls,
Speaker 1: for sure. They're celebrity awfuls. We won't have to name
Speaker 1: the celebrities, but there are some awfuls and celebrities. Everyone
Speaker 1: has an awful obviously. I want to tell y'all so bad.
Speaker 1: There was this boxer who tried to ruin my life.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I can't win. Boxers are supposed to
Speaker 1: be I might be really wrong, and there aren't. They
Speaker 1: supposed to be mostly well behaved, though well don't. Boxers
Speaker 1: are confrontational, which doesn't mean a bad thing. I almost
Speaker 1: wish I had more assertion in my personality, you know,
Speaker 1: because I'm very like passive aggressive boxers. If you say, hey,
Speaker 1: funck you go, what the fuck you say? They will
Speaker 1: never turn the other cheek. They will come front. Do
Speaker 1: you find that most of the stereotypes about these certain
Speaker 1: dogs are true, like our pit bulls, like a little
Speaker 1: edgy or dalmatians a little edgy Um. I only worked
Speaker 1: with one Dalmatian ship all in the back of my car. Pits.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a breedist, so I will never
Speaker 1: say that pits are dangerous. The problem with pitts is
Speaker 1: that they Number one, our society has told us they're bad,
Speaker 1: So when they're around people, tense up, they feel our energy.
Speaker 1: Number Two, they can get over stimulated easily, and that
Speaker 1: stimulation can trigger their prey drive. So, but that's not
Speaker 1: even for all pits. And that's true for a lot
Speaker 1: of breeds. That's true for bulldogs, that's true for poodles.
Speaker 1: It just it's a personality trade. It's not a doctorate. Three.
Speaker 1: It's just really sad that, you know, inner cities and
Speaker 1: they're not educated about training and neutering and spading animals.
Speaker 1: And then it's you know, it's it's just sad because
Speaker 1: pimples are very they can be very sweet. I've met
Speaker 1: some sweet yes, it's just people you have never I
Speaker 1: want a pit bull. Oh my god, have y'all seen
Speaker 1: what is that? Lady on the on Animal Planet with
Speaker 1: the people Rescue. Why can't I think of the name
Speaker 1: of it? Pa, God, it's the best show ever. Okay,
Speaker 1: this bitch, this bitch on here. I can't think of
Speaker 1: her name, and I feel so bad. She's this this
Speaker 1: liked leather. She's seen some ship in her day. And
Speaker 1: what does she doing on the show? What's the show? So?
Speaker 1: She is a woman with fully grown children. She runs
Speaker 1: a pit bull rescue in New Orleans, and she only
Speaker 1: hires x cons as her employees. And she says, just
Speaker 1: like pitts, these men have bad reputations and we're turning
Speaker 1: it around because it's all bullshit. Everyone deserves a second chance.
Speaker 1: She is a tough ass. Bit we need Tia torres Tare.
Speaker 1: She's like Icon, She's giving you fucking Reba meets Jill
Speaker 1: Zarin got locked out of the house. She's bad ass.
Speaker 1: I love the show. I love this. I gotta watch.
Speaker 1: Everyone deserves a second chance. Our prison system is fucked.
Speaker 1: You're stripped of your of your individuality. You're not mentally
Speaker 1: rehabilitated into our society. She says, I'm gonna get you there,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you a job. I'm gonna get you
Speaker 1: on a schedule. I'm gonna give you value to your
Speaker 1: life in Dogs and the Men Bond. It's healing, honestly.
Speaker 1: Is it a new show. No, it's been on for like.
Speaker 1: Why have have they optioned this for a movie yet?
Speaker 1: I would watch this. I want Amy Adams to play
Speaker 1: Ta Tarres. I see you, Taures. Yes, and love that
Speaker 1: go to hell Now now Joe has part. Producer has
Speaker 1: never brought in Polly and I can't. That's so Offensive's baby.
Speaker 1: She's old and foreign and it's far. She's old and
Speaker 1: it's fall I've seen pictures of her in the studio though.
Speaker 1: I want to meet her too. She's chilled. Polly's chill.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to drive to New Orleans
Speaker 1: and adopt a pitbull from Tia. I've said that a
Speaker 1: million times. She's so strict she would get in a
Speaker 1: van and drive to l A and check my house herself.
Speaker 1: I mean they don't funk around. Yeah, No, these dogs
Speaker 1: have been through enough, honey. They've been through enough, honey.
Speaker 1: It seems like they're on top of it. Ta ta
Speaker 1: At pit Bulls and Parole check it out. I think
Speaker 1: we got it. We can we can network at My
Speaker 1: dad would love that. And you can buy merch and
Speaker 1: support them and send, you know, donate money to them.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. So I haven't bought one, but
Speaker 1: I would love to. I want. I want to ask
Speaker 1: about we We've talked about the two piece, the pit
Speaker 1: Bulls and the paroles. We haven't talked about the other
Speaker 1: two pies, which is pop punk. Yes, I'm going Dad
Speaker 1: Dad Earlier round and going Dan Slaying. You recently said
Speaker 1: in one of your episodes that this is maybe your
Speaker 1: favorite song of all time. I think it might be.
Speaker 1: It's so it's like it makes my heart sing, especially
Speaker 1: now like with some distance on it, you know now
Speaker 1: as an adult woman, I really it hits me. Dat
Speaker 1: boy holds up the largely hold up, and not everything
Speaker 1: from that time period holds up, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Simple plan hold good. Charlotte doesn't really hold up. Although
Speaker 1: I actually kind of liked their their later stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I liked put up your hand say, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be left. I don't want to. I just read
Speaker 1: their Wikipedia page because my husband I were in the
Speaker 1: car and we were debating, like what was their breakout song?
Speaker 1: Like what it was? Little things? Little things? I didn't
Speaker 1: even remember that. And then we went through the whole
Speaker 1: discography of that. Yeah, the second that was their second,
Speaker 1: That was the second, Yes, telling you you know what
Speaker 1: good Charlotte does have some good stuff. They're touring and
Speaker 1: let me tell you they look good. Those brothers, oh
Speaker 1: my god, the one that's married Chi. I saw him
Speaker 1: at Menchi's Yogurt with his two kids and he was
Speaker 1: like serving me sexy dad, like helping out star, helping
Speaker 1: out Harlow. And with the reveal with the yogurt, there
Speaker 1: you go. And with with the reveal that Nicole Richie
Speaker 1: gets it, maybe we have to give that Madden some credit.
Speaker 1: Maybe he gets it. Maybe he does. They seemed I
Speaker 1: could never get a read on them, like if they
Speaker 1: were good people or not. I never liked them. And
Speaker 1: I have a very specific reason why because the one
Speaker 1: that was dating Hillary Duff at the time. Duff at
Speaker 1: the time, like Kelly Clarkson, like was was also a
Speaker 1: big pop star and Hillary Duff was a big pop star.
Speaker 1: They actually were kind of competing pop stars at the time,
Speaker 1: and he said something shitty about Kelly Clarkson and you never,
Speaker 1: you never, you never disrespect her. But in my eyes,
Speaker 1: that's our first American which is also why I have
Speaker 1: a que just taste for and I have a passionate
Speaker 1: joy for the fact that she's not doing well. Is
Speaker 1: Avril Levine? Okay, what are your thoughts for Kelly? And
Speaker 1: she was sixteen? Man, break right. I knew you would
Speaker 1: say that you don't know? Have you near the hours
Speaker 1: I spent sobbing to her first two c ds? I
Speaker 1: would follow this room up, Jackie, Can I tell you something?
Speaker 1: Her second album? Was it called Again or something like, um,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter? The one with don't tell Me? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: What's it called? Why don't I know? It? Has? I
Speaker 1: see the I see the CD. It's black with an
Speaker 1: ex only listeners are screaming on us through hold On,
Speaker 1: Hold on That second album under My Skin. So that
Speaker 1: album back in the age of you know, disc commands
Speaker 1: and all that I was in China for six weeks,
Speaker 1: was any of my family was bored out of my
Speaker 1: mind and my sister and I which would trade the
Speaker 1: disc man and we would play that was like one
Speaker 1: of our three CDs that we had. I know that
Speaker 1: album top to bottom like the back of my fucking hand.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Wait, don't do this, don't do this. Wait, no, fuck,
Speaker 1: I know. I just know every chord to freak Atlantica. Okay,
Speaker 1: hold on, how does it start? Hold on? Hold on? Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm cheating a little bit. But while he's doing this,
Speaker 1: let me say why I'm so hurd about al. It
Speaker 1: was at the v m as and know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. And if you don't know, here's a short
Speaker 1: abridged version. Kelly and Justin Guarini were finals in American
Speaker 1: and they were the top two. They were giving best
Speaker 1: New Artists evelivin one Evlievin came up and Kelly went
Speaker 1: to hugger and Avril literally took her arm, lifted over
Speaker 1: her head, took the award from her and like pushed
Speaker 1: her out of the way. Basic. But don't you think
Speaker 1: that was like part of her image or sound? But
Speaker 1: I mean, she she was it does I I she
Speaker 1: was a teenager man. But here's the thing you've done.
Speaker 1: Teenager Amy Fisher and she that long island Lolita shot
Speaker 1: Mary Joe Budafu go in the face and she was
Speaker 1: a teenager too. And if you don't know what that is,
Speaker 1: but it's because you're from Denver, you need to read
Speaker 1: a book. Teenagers have to be held responsible for their actions,
Speaker 1: go to prison and a people in Denver sit read
Speaker 1: books because living in Denver precludes you from me. You
Speaker 1: don't know about the long Melita, Amy Fisher, No, I
Speaker 1: don't care. Are you joking? You don't know about the
Speaker 1: li on Melita yea and yang. Okay, this is such
Speaker 1: a good I think I heard. I've heard like this is.
Speaker 1: This is a Tanya Tanya Harding level thing of culture. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've heard little like I She's They're back in the
Speaker 1: news though, because Mary Joel Did you see Mary Joe
Speaker 1: was just on Meg and Kelly come up on Stern
Speaker 1: a lot. They come up all the time. So as
Speaker 1: Stern is still talking about these people. I mean, if
Speaker 1: it comes up, it's like the way that John Benny
Speaker 1: Ramsey will still be on the cover of the National Inquirer.
Speaker 1: But because I was Johnny Ramsey, this was just as big,
Speaker 1: if not bigger. Do you remember the rain of Bobbitt
Speaker 1: grew up? You need to know your these because I was,
Speaker 1: because I might have been in Canada. This Amy Fisher
Speaker 1: was even earlier. Alright, But let me explain to you
Speaker 1: what you will be obsessed with. So along on the Lda,
Speaker 1: Amy Fisher was seventeen year old girl who was having
Speaker 1: an affair with like Joe and he was in his forties,
Speaker 1: like he was like a dad and his wife has
Speaker 1: named Mary Joe. So the one day Mary Joe is
Speaker 1: in her it's like after the kids have went to school,
Speaker 1: age three days left, where where in Long Island is
Speaker 1: that let's let's just say let's just say, let's say um.
Speaker 1: But so she's at home one day, like minding her
Speaker 1: own business, being a housewife. The doorboat rings and it's
Speaker 1: this teenage girl with that gutten The gun is not
Speaker 1: so they proceed to have fifteen minute conversation where she
Speaker 1: says to her, my little sister is having an affair
Speaker 1: with your husband, and um, I just wanted to tell
Speaker 1: you that. And they have like a fifteen minute conversation
Speaker 1: and towards the end of it, Mary Joe was like,
Speaker 1: who are you? What are you talking about? Like you
Speaker 1: gotta go, like I'm going back in my house. Amy
Speaker 1: Fisher pulls out a gun shoots her in the face.
Speaker 1: She s vibes. The next day she's able toify identify
Speaker 1: this girl, and then they find out that she has
Speaker 1: been having an affair with She posted her sister, though
Speaker 1: at first know she posed as her. Know, she said,
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you that my little sister
Speaker 1: has been having an affair with your husband. But this
Speaker 1: is not the same. Oh that what's listen? It was?
Speaker 1: And so then where the lion that comes from is
Speaker 1: you found out that she was having an affair with
Speaker 1: a man. And what she tried to say as her
Speaker 1: defense was that he was paying her and told her
Speaker 1: to do it to kill his wife. And eventually, years later,
Speaker 1: years later Mary Joe divorced Joey and now they're like
Speaker 1: tabloid figures. In fact, they tried to Joey and Amy
Speaker 1: Fisher tried to pick the reality show together like ten
Speaker 1: years ago. Well, he was doing, she was doing. She's
Speaker 1: a tam girl now, I mean that's great. Drew Barrymore
Speaker 1: played her in a TV movie. How did I know
Speaker 1: about Not Real quick? Larina Bobbitt slice her husband's deck off?
Speaker 1: I know about her? You know about this Bob. It's
Speaker 1: an icon, you know. Yeah, we all know about Bob Okay,
Speaker 1: but that's that's it. Like a crazy teenager shot a
Speaker 1: woman in the face. Al didn't shoot anybody. Can I
Speaker 1: just say I have on good authority that Avril has
Speaker 1: a comeback coming. That's all I'm going to say, and
Speaker 1: I'm here for it. On Okay, I'll say this resuscitation.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I love Average. Here's why it hurts
Speaker 1: when she did that. I was so hurt because I
Speaker 1: loved Average. I let that go. It's it was more
Speaker 1: than when people show you who they are, believed you.
Speaker 1: Who said that people who show who they are believe them,
Speaker 1: believe them? Is that somebody on Tom Model? Yes that
Speaker 1: was that was actually season one? Yeah, I saw her
Speaker 1: the Nelsalon wants Tyra car I see all the Next
Speaker 1: Model people at my commercial auditions and it just breaks
Speaker 1: my It's like it did nothing nothing, there's just guessing
Speaker 1: one of the name. I mean, you're only outlets for
Speaker 1: for after you leave that show is now to like
Speaker 1: your Instagram sells skinny tummy ta or just like be a.
Speaker 1: She's not even a real housewife. Fucking what's her face?
Speaker 1: Well know she's getting added to the main cast of
Speaker 1: Real Atlanta. She'll fitting great, great, But on the most
Speaker 1: recent season, there was one girl, um I won't name
Speaker 1: because it's embarrassing, but she was then seen training at
Speaker 1: our friends restaurant afterwards, like, you know what, it's hard
Speaker 1: out there. It's hard out there, hard out there. But
Speaker 1: also man, it's hard out there, and you only get
Speaker 1: so many chances Avril Levine, So I don't not hug
Speaker 1: my girl. And she she struck once. That's one strike,
Speaker 1: one strike. I think I think you need to second strike.
Speaker 1: Spitting at the paparazzi. You need what she's what she
Speaker 1: is right to do. You have to balance out against
Speaker 1: all the good will, the good she's put out in
Speaker 1: the world. Her second album, Take Me Away, Why does
Speaker 1: it starts go away? To describe it, it's there inside
Speaker 1: I do is high said it. We'll just go away?
Speaker 1: What you do you do? If you know the pain?
Speaker 1: She's right in my range. Yeah, it was ripe for
Speaker 1: so she must be a go to karaoke for you.
Speaker 1: Happy and well okay, So I was in a pop
Speaker 1: punk cover band called punk Rock Barbie, and you must
Speaker 1: have recovered some reharsonal I did skater Boy and Happy Ending,
Speaker 1: Happy Ending is so good. It's so good together is
Speaker 1: so good. Don't tell me he wasn't. Now, Okay, you
Speaker 1: have to admit, Matt, can you can see that she's
Speaker 1: a good songwriter. I can. I can see that she
Speaker 1: can write hooks. The lyrics are literally bad. If you
Speaker 1: look at the lyrics from My Happy Ending, they don't there.
Speaker 1: It's not English guy. I mean it's bad. But I
Speaker 1: do love. I'm with you, I get my life time
Speaker 1: with you. I think I'm with you holds up definitely
Speaker 1: holding on from aragon, I think, and don't forget. She
Speaker 1: also Real Breakaway by Kelly Clarkson's true. Um uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: so she ended up writing her song, but not on purpose.
Speaker 1: You know how that works. Yeah, but then she must
Speaker 1: have had something to be like, Okay, fine, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to investigate that moment further because I don't
Speaker 1: feel it's okay for me to comment not knowing the
Speaker 1: full story and seeing the footage myself. I mean, Kelly
Speaker 1: has commented on it in the years ensuing. And then
Speaker 1: you know, I'm from Dallas, like Kelly. I saw the
Speaker 1: American Tour the first year in my home town of Dallas,
Speaker 1: Kelly's hometown. But you know what, I'm I'm sick of
Speaker 1: her trying to act her she's a comedian. Can you
Speaker 1: just I know I don't find her charming. I don't
Speaker 1: find her charming. I'm sorry, okay, find her charming. Here
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's here's the I
Speaker 1: not angry, yes, because I don't know if it's the
Speaker 1: right decision for her to be doing the daytime talk
Speaker 1: show thing. It seemed to be doing the personality driven
Speaker 1: things not too much. I think that in small doses
Speaker 1: it's great. I have a concern, and please everyone understand,
Speaker 1: you know, I say this with love. I have a
Speaker 1: concern that she'll oversaturate this thing of Wow, what a
Speaker 1: down home like fun like just like us kind of person.
Speaker 1: You can only take so much of that. And I
Speaker 1: also worry sometimes when she um talks about like politics,
Speaker 1: only because one time she supported Ron Paul and I
Speaker 1: was just like, I know that she's you know, from Texas,
Speaker 1: and I know that, like she's a not not not
Speaker 1: necessarily a Second Amendment queen, but I know that she's
Speaker 1: you know, n RA and like all these things, which
Speaker 1: is which is you know, it's your choice, but something
Speaker 1: she's a member for a Russian op. It's not the
Speaker 1: run for Russian money. Oh yeah, let's yes, stand Kelly,
Speaker 1: go keep going. This is kind of what I mean. Okay.
Speaker 1: She should be known for her amazing voice. Yea, and
Speaker 1: so should Avril. No, she doesn't have an amazing voice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sure she does. It's nice and to know that you
Speaker 1: are there and then you are being you are holding
Speaker 1: a fucking grudge and you need to let it go
Speaker 1: like the second second. Yeah, there is this weird double
Speaker 1: standard here between Avril and better shut the fun up.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna point you in your face because how
Speaker 1: dare you when she said super cow? You know that
Speaker 1: that appropriate appropriated? Want to understand what you want to
Speaker 1: know something? I didn't even fucking care when Hello Kitty
Speaker 1: came out. I didn't care it was called Hello Kitty,
Speaker 1: I mean, and it was And it was not a
Speaker 1: proud moment. That's not that's not a moment on her
Speaker 1: trajectory that I would like to highlight. Come Kitty Kitty,
Speaker 1: so pretty. I will say this is not defending her.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying she's huge in Asia to this day.
Speaker 1: They support her and keep her afloat. And so it was.
Speaker 1: It was a marketing plois wasn't the right one, but
Speaker 1: like it made sense for her to write a Japanese song.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is just keep your eyes peeled for
Speaker 1: the next few months. How much else? What else do
Speaker 1: you know? We need to know? Jackie. I will tell
Speaker 1: you off the air, this is a celebrity. She's being
Speaker 1: her covering the tracks. We're getting more tea from Jackie
Speaker 1: than we are. He call my publicity. I can't afford
Speaker 1: the public are kidding me? Can I can? I brag
Speaker 1: real quick? So I had a birthday party last year.
Speaker 1: It was a pop punk a day party. It was
Speaker 1: nobody likes you in your thirty three and we all
Speaker 1: wore like two thousands clothes and I got sent a
Speaker 1: birthday video from Avril. So I'm on her. I'm a
Speaker 1: stand I'm not going to talk bad about her, you know.
Speaker 1: And and there's an evil video in my phone and
Speaker 1: in my heart. Oh my god. So let's just say
Speaker 1: I track her career closely and get excited because her
Speaker 1: next song I think might be big. Here's here's what
Speaker 1: I Here's what I'm feeling right now. I'm in it,
Speaker 1: really conflicted, in like really troubling place Jo because she's
Speaker 1: a member of the n r A because the Russian op.
Speaker 1: I feel that you were a bit a better. We
Speaker 1: don't know every every club. Avril is in bitch. I
Speaker 1: feel like you have been a better friend. That moment
Speaker 1: was you aren't defending Kelly Clarkson so hard against your
Speaker 1: best friend who was holding her. Did you see her
Speaker 1: do that? Like, sit down, be humble? Medley? Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: why there for me? The charm isn't there for me?
Speaker 1: I think, oh, Grey, you know you're funny. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's not stop trying to make it happenings comedy career.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. American America fell in love with
Speaker 1: her for her personality and her voice. Yes, I think
Speaker 1: she has an amazing personality invescent, beautiful, it's fun. But
Speaker 1: I agree with you, like I don't know if the
Speaker 1: talk show is the best use of energy when we
Speaker 1: could be maybe focusing on the tour, you know, focusing
Speaker 1: on I even think the voice is great. I think
Speaker 1: she's good on the hotastic you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm excited. T oh, yeah, who wouldn't she just one?
Speaker 1: Ps though? Christina? I mean, if I was on the
Speaker 1: voice and there was any option, it would be Christina.
Speaker 1: She shades the Voice Now, Yeah, she doesn't like it
Speaker 1: at all. She's like it became like everything else. She's
Speaker 1: on record saying like it became like everything else in
Speaker 1: this industry. I mean, how many more has anyone come
Speaker 1: out of the Voice. I mean there's an issue there,
Speaker 1: there's an issue. Then here's my thing with the Voice,
Speaker 1: though I don't think any and it's I feel this
Speaker 1: way about singing competitions in general. Now they don't mean
Speaker 1: the same thing that used to mean, whereas like American
Speaker 1: Idol used to be if you want you were a superstar,
Speaker 1: or there's just not that big of an audience sing
Speaker 1: where there's so much distribution of views now and I
Speaker 1: feel like now what the Voice does and what American
Speaker 1: Idol does is it gives them a credit like that
Speaker 1: then allows them to pay their bills singing like none.
Speaker 1: They can tour, you know what I mean? Like, I
Speaker 1: feel like if you leave one of the lot of
Speaker 1: them go to Broadway. Yeah, and if you leave one
Speaker 1: of these shows, you know, we were just watching Dave
Speaker 1: Ariel and I were watching videos last night after the
Speaker 1: v M. A is Diana de Garmo. She's hot. The
Speaker 1: children have forgotten she can sing. Yes, she looks really
Speaker 1: good too. I saw a pot of her and I
Speaker 1: was like, yes, girl, and I bet she pays her
Speaker 1: birth singing. So she asked to look look at it
Speaker 1: like it was a success. So yeah, are you Kelly
Speaker 1: Clarkson level? Are you carry Underwood level? Even like you
Speaker 1: know I love her carry Underwood? You know she's a
Speaker 1: problematic one too. Yeah, what'd she do just being a
Speaker 1: country singer? Problem? But Jesus, like the wheel life anthem,
Speaker 1: Jesus saying the wee Jackie, can you give us hor chates?
Speaker 1: Can you give us some hint as to the musicality
Speaker 1: of the next overall single? Or no? Like what what? What?
Speaker 1: What it's gonna sound like? What the sonic quality is?
Speaker 1: It's that you're keeping it that close to the insider info.
Speaker 1: I can't my god, it's from Camp Averall. It's from
Speaker 1: Camp Averall. Camp is the title of this up. Let's
Speaker 1: just say I'm really good at googling. Yes, honestly, when
Speaker 1: you when you google the I found Shila Bout's address, nur,
Speaker 1: when you google the pop star that's how you know? Now, God,
Speaker 1: aver I just really quickly, I I am I'm with
Speaker 1: Jackie on this, I'm team Avril. Uh. The different language
Speaker 1: versions of Girlfriend were iconic. There was a there's a
Speaker 1: Mandarin version of Girlfriend. She she recorded him, she recorded French, Spanish, Mandarin,
Speaker 1: and there was one more. But it's just hey, hey,
Speaker 1: you you bean or no gusta Totovia or Tonovia or
Speaker 1: But then for the Chinese, for the for the Chinese,
Speaker 1: you want to know what she did? For the Chinese
Speaker 1: version did not stick to the original melody. Here's what
Speaker 1: she goes, here's what she does. Hey, hey, you you
Speaker 1: what she does? She sings on one tone. It's just one.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, she wanted to be respectful and
Speaker 1: it was a hit in China, So there you go. God,
Speaker 1: honestly whatever, like Avril, I never knew where let's see
Speaker 1: what's gonna turn And this is not where I thought
Speaker 1: it would Listen this, I mean, Joey bought a few
Speaker 1: go to long on to a career mishaps. I mean
Speaker 1: what we talk about dogs? No, no, we got into dogs.
Speaker 1: Well was the first thing that you said? You said, Oh,
Speaker 1: what was it? Oh? The sims say all the time.
Speaker 1: But I was like, what did you play for parade?
Speaker 1: I played for real I would waste the hours I've
Speaker 1: lost to the Sims truly insane. And then I tried
Speaker 1: to I have the SIMS three back at home, like
Speaker 1: at my apartment, and for a while they're like when
Speaker 1: Facebook was still like a viable thing. I would go
Speaker 1: on Facebook five and I figured out the way to
Speaker 1: go live to do like basically a twitch stream of
Speaker 1: me playing the Sims and just me taking me taking
Speaker 1: crowdsource suggestions about what to do next. And it was
Speaker 1: a huge failure, but you know, I would thanks. Um.
Speaker 1: I only got as far as like this mother and
Speaker 1: her daughter living in this house and the daughter sleeping
Speaker 1: with the mother's boyfriend. It was it was juicy. I
Speaker 1: would always just put in the secret code. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then just like you to make the most a lavish house,
Speaker 1: and then like just try to have them fucking a
Speaker 1: big house. The house is now, they're going to fucking
Speaker 1: the billiards room. Let's make them fuck in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Only they can only suck on the bed. I know
Speaker 1: I would put a bed in those rooms. I think
Speaker 1: they could suck in the jacuzy remember the sex bed
Speaker 1: that was yes, and it vibrated sometimes if you would
Speaker 1: put them in that bed. The baby would immediately like
Speaker 1: the little um, I remember that I got a kid now.
Speaker 1: I also loved hours playing that game. However, like most
Speaker 1: of what's occupied in my mind during that time is
Speaker 1: roller coaster typeoo and I would all the time. Yeah
Speaker 1: I love those sandbox games. They're good, Yeah, they're great,
Speaker 1: But the sims like you really it was actually a
Speaker 1: pretty good like writing tool because you would just you
Speaker 1: would just like be like, how do I want to function? Like,
Speaker 1: It's just it gives you space to be to like
Speaker 1: project all your It was a good like it was.
Speaker 1: It was also like a morality thing, you know, because
Speaker 1: for me it was I was my first reaction was
Speaker 1: like I want them to be the mayor. I want
Speaker 1: them to have a life, I want them to have
Speaker 1: nice things, I want them to be happy. But then
Speaker 1: there's pretty minutes like I'm going to draw him in
Speaker 1: the pool. Yeah, you know, like it's like such a
Speaker 1: duality of our minds. It's such a weird god thing,
Speaker 1: mini god complex that it was so fun to um
Speaker 1: set people exactly. Yeah, honestly, to like if we could
Speaker 1: go back and look at the houses that we created,
Speaker 1: it would be a wonderful eye back into our personal style.
Speaker 1: At the beginnings, I remember I used a lot of
Speaker 1: chain of friends. Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Carpet there was like a rug at the time was
Speaker 1: like shake the chic and that was like the peak.
Speaker 1: And also this was around the same time period that
Speaker 1: we're talking about, whichever, all three like this was around
Speaker 1: this time was it was a beautiful time? Were you
Speaker 1: were you like in middle school? High school? Then? Yeah,
Speaker 1: high school? So I think I graduated. But I don't
Speaker 1: like about my age. It's fine, but it's such a
Speaker 1: beautiful time. It was beautiful. It was truly beautiful time.
Speaker 1: And honestly, I always say the age of the metrosexual. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you find yourself dating a metro sexual man? You
Speaker 1: know what is so tragic? Every guy I've ever dated
Speaker 1: has been the same person, which is what just like
Speaker 1: a white guy with my own hair and like medium
Speaker 1: build and like not necessary what what what kind of
Speaker 1: like flavor are they? What do they serve a in
Speaker 1: terms of flavor? Well, I like, how did that personality taste?
Speaker 1: Sense of humor? Intelligence, being a good person, being self sufficient.
Speaker 1: He's a I used to be teacher and a writer.
Speaker 1: I amazing Yeah, he's like a master improv improv visor.
Speaker 1: What's his name was? His name is Adam A Cave. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we know of him, don't know he's on bang. We
Speaker 1: have never had we've never had the distinct pleasure of
Speaker 1: meeting Adam. But when you're in l A, we're going
Speaker 1: to meet what y'all were in a LA because you
Speaker 1: did gave you had gave her song? We were. We
Speaker 1: were in l A for a bit, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: I went back. I returned. We can announce maybe prematurely
Speaker 1: on the pot be back in December, maybe for a
Speaker 1: live show. Yeah, oh maybe not. Maybe it's happening confirmed.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm teasing. Yeah he was teasing, but I'm
Speaker 1: not teasing. And maybe maybe Jackie you can do it.
Speaker 1: You'll you'll have to come on attribute we wanted to love.
Speaker 1: I got I really got ready today. I listened. I was,
Speaker 1: I put you on. I put on a cheap face
Speaker 1: max from a skin sheet mask remember now fetters, And
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm ready to talk, talk to talk
Speaker 1: about I have a question. Okay, So I do want
Speaker 1: to make sure that we asked for some beauty tips. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: then I need to do my I don't think. So
Speaker 1: we're getting okay, all right, but he's turn he get
Speaker 1: your hands off of that, and Mike, don't turn it
Speaker 1: to are you? How dare you? Joe? How dare you?
Speaker 1: What are you asking? Just y'all are so special? What
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I just like I said your versus
Speaker 1: mac Androw, I think Matt's mcinrow Yeah, because I get
Speaker 1: really angry. Yeah. And meanwhile I have a Swedish simplicity. Yes,
Speaker 1: but it's beautiful, Thank you, thank you? All right, Well
Speaker 1: this is good. What were you going to ask? Here's
Speaker 1: what I'll ask. Okay, So I'm lucky I have, I
Speaker 1: have good skin. I've never thank you for saying I
Speaker 1: never have had a problem with my Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think that I thought I found like the key to
Speaker 1: maintain that, which was coconut oil. And then I was
Speaker 1: told do not use that on your face. And and
Speaker 1: here's the thing, almost like psychosomatically, here's what happened. I
Speaker 1: have been like shaving a lot more because a friend
Speaker 1: of mine said you look better unshaved, better shaving than unshaven.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm gonna trust this person. So
Speaker 1: I've been shaving a lot oftentimes when I shave, like
Speaker 1: my skin a look at its best that day or
Speaker 1: the next day. And so what I've been doing is
Speaker 1: I've been putting a little bit of cocon oil on
Speaker 1: my skin too, because I figured, how could this be bad?
Speaker 1: And everyone has been complimenting me on my skin lately.
Speaker 1: After I put the coconut oil on, then I was
Speaker 1: sitting in the makeup chair on the product I was doing,
Speaker 1: and the makeup artist was like, I don't even have
Speaker 1: to do it too much to you. What have you
Speaker 1: been using? And I said coconut oil, And she looked
Speaker 1: at me with panic in her eyes and said, don't
Speaker 1: use coconut oil. It's gonna clog your pores. The next day.
Speaker 1: There's a little pimple right here. So I think, is
Speaker 1: it psychosomatic? Or is coconut oil not good? You know,
Speaker 1: this is a debate as old as time. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: along with you know, religion. I thought coconut oil is
Speaker 1: invented two days ago. It's right up there with religion.
Speaker 1: With religion, and you know, the wars and the wars,
Speaker 1: there's I've heard coconut oil oil create a barrier, so
Speaker 1: it actually won't it won't let moist you're in as
Speaker 1: opposed to moisturizing. But then I've heard it's great. You know,
Speaker 1: it says on the little bottle it says use um hands, face, feet, body,
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry it doesn't say face and the one
Speaker 1: I have. And then I was like, but it's been
Speaker 1: working for me. And then literally the next day I
Speaker 1: have like a because maybe it's too aggressive for your
Speaker 1: face skin, which is I think, don't put it on
Speaker 1: your face, Okay, alright. However, a lot of people use
Speaker 1: it to remove their liquid lipstick or their I make up,
Speaker 1: So if it works, do it for you. But I
Speaker 1: think it's too thick of an oil for your face
Speaker 1: and your skin isn't oily enough, like my skin is
Speaker 1: super oily, and so I feel like it would like
Speaker 1: I've started to use oil cleansers every now and then,
Speaker 1: and I found that it's better at just still moisturizing
Speaker 1: while stripping down dirt like you don't have you like
Speaker 1: your skin is pretty. Here's what I want. I want
Speaker 1: just something that's gonna like make me look fresher because
Speaker 1: often times, like if I I will get the bags
Speaker 1: under my eyes. Yeah, it's hard to get away and
Speaker 1: I like, that's what I'm looking for, making more kind
Speaker 1: of like youthful appearance in your eyes, brightening, brightening ceramony,
Speaker 1: vitamin vitamin C daily or no daily, And isn't like
Speaker 1: like a rub like um it would? It depends on
Speaker 1: what seram you get like um. I always ask price point,
Speaker 1: like are you a Sephora girl or you a Target girl?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Okay, because I was gonna
Speaker 1: say drunk elephant, which is Sephora? Okay, I'm gonna write
Speaker 1: that down. I love that name, I know, and their
Speaker 1: packaging is so cute. In terms of target price point,
Speaker 1: I would try yes to blueberries you know, yes too.
Speaker 1: You know they have yes to carrots, yes to me, yes, cockies,
Speaker 1: they have them all, but I think just make sure.
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure the yes to blueberry would be
Speaker 1: a great like antioccident one and it's like eight dollars
Speaker 1: it smells, don't know, I can't wait. And you can
Speaker 1: target scrubs. I love like um, like the kind of
Speaker 1: like salt like scrub in the room. Yeah, what are
Speaker 1: your face? Yeah? Yeah, I like to put in my face.
Speaker 1: It makes me feel sure. Yeah, I love that too.
Speaker 1: An invigorating scrub, but don't don't expiate too much. Well
Speaker 1: that's again, that's another because men, I feel I can
Speaker 1: handle it because your skin is different. It's just a
Speaker 1: fact I heard for real, U does a hardcore exploiation
Speaker 1: every day. Wow, and he looks like and he looks fantastic.
Speaker 1: It does, Jackie. I I don't want to just like
Speaker 1: hug up at this time of your advice, but I
Speaker 1: would love it. This is why I live. Okay, come on,
Speaker 1: this is this is this is I have the shiniest
Speaker 1: face in the world. Even even if when I do
Speaker 1: switch to an Weil cleanser, it doesn't make that big
Speaker 1: of a difference. What are you using daytime? You're doing
Speaker 1: a moisturizer doing. Here's what I'm doing, okay, because they
Speaker 1: make great like oil Control style, even the oil Control
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this real? I'm doing just a Now,
Speaker 1: I'm just doing a basic natural like Alan Green tea whatever.
Speaker 1: Whatever the heck face wash cleanser tone good. I'm happy
Speaker 1: to hear that. Then I'm gonna put I have every
Speaker 1: now and then twice a week, I'll put a little
Speaker 1: bit of essence on and then do um do moisturize.
Speaker 1: I'm sticking to the Korean stuff, yes, like the route
Speaker 1: at least the routine. Yes, And I can't tell if
Speaker 1: it's working. Like I truly don't see a difference. There's
Speaker 1: nothing discernible for me. No, I don't know, like like
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm still shiny and stuff, and
Speaker 1: like I don't know if like is do we supposed
Speaker 1: to be good? Because do we for me is like
Speaker 1: extra shine. Well, that's the thing. The grass is always greener.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I wish my hair was curly and
Speaker 1: versus I wish my straight. I mean, I'd kill for ade. Honestly,
Speaker 1: at this stage, I would kill for a dude. When
Speaker 1: I was schlepping through New York earlier today, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I felt sweat on my face. I don't
Speaker 1: sweat really that much. And oh my god, I'm doing
Speaker 1: right now, you know what I mean. Okay, So I
Speaker 1: want to recommend something for you, please. Okay, she's looking
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Speaker 1: because this is the best resource for because what happens
Speaker 1: is my guests come on and then you can search anything.
Speaker 1: I don't know that the website was this much of
Speaker 1: a source. It's a whole blog. There's don't play. It
Speaker 1: is a brand. And basically I've had guests on and
Speaker 1: that had oily skin and then they here we go,
Speaker 1: you have been good. I try Yeah, yeah, we try
Speaker 1: to keep it um just interesting, fun fresh. So all
Speaker 1: kinds of people, but then some indie brand owners, some
Speaker 1: makeup artists, some comedians, some actors, some artists, some writers,
Speaker 1: but just all types of people, primarily women. But we
Speaker 1: just try to you know, I like everyone's opinion. I
Speaker 1: don't want to just have on people who want to
Speaker 1: only use what I use or whatever. You No. No,
Speaker 1: I have people who don't even wear makeup come on
Speaker 1: and they go, I think this industry is bullshit and like,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, and I'm like, cool, I want to
Speaker 1: hear about that. Yeah, Jackie's a pro. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find this one product for you, especially if you like
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Speaker 1: then they are then they test on animal's part of
Speaker 1: it's like a part of the you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: I think it will change though, because more people are
Speaker 1: getting wise to it. She So there's some Korean brands
Speaker 1: that test on animals, but there are some that don't.
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Speaker 1: you can get it at Riley Rose. If you live
Speaker 1: in a metropolitan area, then Riley Roses like the new
Speaker 1: cousin of Sepphora. It's like all cute millennial and whatever
Speaker 1: they have costs are x there. They have like moisture pads,
Speaker 1: they have essences. They have the best sunscreen, because are
Speaker 1: we sunscreen boys? Honestly not when I don't have to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really need to. We need to one, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: especially in New York, because it's all the toxic crap
Speaker 1: in the air from our from the cars and everything
Speaker 1: coming at us. Okay, I'm fine. So you're here in
Speaker 1: New York and are you feeling like like yes a lot? Okay,
Speaker 1: Mire at oil Control Matta fire O SPF fifteen which
Speaker 1: isn't n F SPF if you ask me, um, but
Speaker 1: definitely need to get that one. And then the costs
Speaker 1: r x um Aloe soothing sun sunscreen SPF A plus
Speaker 1: plus plus. What's the p A. That's the uv A
Speaker 1: and the uv B rays. If you're buying a sunscreen
Speaker 1: that doesn't have p A plus plus plus on it,
Speaker 1: it's not doing anything for you because it's not blocking
Speaker 1: those U v A. Okay, there's v A n u
Speaker 1: v B. If it says broad spectrum, that's not to
Speaker 1: say broad spectrum SPF p A plus plus plus plus.
Speaker 1: Here's something, here's something I want to know. When are
Speaker 1: you putting on too much stuff? Yeah? Like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to know. I want to know that because honestly,
Speaker 1: like I know that all this stuff would be good,
Speaker 1: but how many like like even like you know, stuff
Speaker 1: you ingest like too much? Like what's like, I guess
Speaker 1: everyone's different. Listen to your body, Listen to your skin um.
Speaker 1: When you do skincare, you're supposed to do um thinnest, thickest,
Speaker 1: so that your face absorbs everything. Right. If you ever
Speaker 1: do a skincare routine and your skin you feel stuff
Speaker 1: on it afterwards, or it's like you can see it
Speaker 1: peeling under your fingers, you didn't do it right, or
Speaker 1: something's not agreeing with you. So just it's all about
Speaker 1: trial and error and having fun. But there is a routine,
Speaker 1: like you were saying, there's a few clans, then you tone,
Speaker 1: then you serum, then you moisture, and then you do
Speaker 1: an oil after if you need one. But I think
Speaker 1: you'll don't need an oil. But but it's sing before
Speaker 1: moisture them before oh an I cream after toner because
Speaker 1: if you put too much shit, your I cream will
Speaker 1: be blocked. And I'm trying to get that I air.
Speaker 1: Ye look at snatch, yeah, and it looks snatched extremely
Speaker 1: it's been this has been I've been up since early
Speaker 1: hours and she doesn't look she looks fresh, and I
Speaker 1: try to keep fresh. You know. You know what I
Speaker 1: did when I was home because my parents just had
Speaker 1: it lying around and I was I just read on
Speaker 1: some block to do it. Um. I did just pure
Speaker 1: Manuka honey on my face. Very moisturizing, right yeah, time
Speaker 1: minutes watch it off. My skin felt like a baby's ass.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. It's a very hot product right now
Speaker 1: right and and ingredient and you eat a spoonful of
Speaker 1: it and like a cold goes away. I love it.
Speaker 1: I need that. It is like a miracle thing because
Speaker 1: you know what I woke up with today. He made
Speaker 1: a fire. He made a fire fire and maybe we'll
Speaker 1: go we'll we go to Whole Foods after the spye
Speaker 1: some minu ghuney. We're gonna get someone new County after this,
Speaker 1: when we're gonna get third Avenue. You can go down
Speaker 1: down that way. I'm going, Dad, Wait, I want to
Speaker 1: ask Jackie one final question before we move on. I
Speaker 1: don't think so much, I really because I admire your
Speaker 1: lifestyle so much because on top of all this, your
Speaker 1: your vegan and I would imagine that it's so exhausting
Speaker 1: having to like curate your choices, um and just have
Speaker 1: to research everything that you consume. But so and so
Speaker 1: is the way to sort of like combat that, like
Speaker 1: just to like find joy in that research or that's beautiful? Well,
Speaker 1: I I always say on Nash, do your damn best,
Speaker 1: do your damn best forgive yourself, love yourself, live your
Speaker 1: life one day at a time, and do your best.
Speaker 1: So it's so crazy the levels of veganism and how
Speaker 1: deep you can go. Yeah, you can just decide one
Speaker 1: day like I'm done eating me, I'm done eating dairy.
Speaker 1: And you still wear your nikes, you still um, you
Speaker 1: know so many things. You still use nutrogena, what tests
Speaker 1: on animals, whatever, So there's so many layers to it,
Speaker 1: and it's just it gets really crazy. So do your
Speaker 1: best in terms of cosmetics, like you just said, Minooka, honey,
Speaker 1: I don't use my new you know what, because right right,
Speaker 1: I do my best. Um, it's hard, and I've learned.
Speaker 1: I've bought things on accident. And then I get home
Speaker 1: and I and I was about to like write up
Speaker 1: about it on ashvie dot com, like oh my god,
Speaker 1: this amazing new brow product that I got at a
Speaker 1: vegan retreat. And I get home and there's lanelin in it,
Speaker 1: which is um derived out of sheep's wool, which I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't really want that on my face. But also
Speaker 1: I don't like the idea. It's fine, you know, the
Speaker 1: wool industry a whole other thing. So I was like, well, funk,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to shout this out, but I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna throw it away. I'm gonna use it till it's
Speaker 1: stunt release release. Forgive myself and for having one week
Speaker 1: minute for not googling it before I bought it, even
Speaker 1: though a vegan fu recommended it to me. Whatever I'm saying,
Speaker 1: there's so many layers to it, so everybody do your best.
Speaker 1: If you really want to do be all vegan with
Speaker 1: your cosmetics, you just have to only buy from vegan brands.
Speaker 1: It's the easiest way. How long has this been an
Speaker 1: interest of yours? Like beauty in general? Like, well, I
Speaker 1: was raised by a very glamorous my mother's like well
Speaker 1: glamorous from the queen. So then, like was it was? It?
Speaker 1: Were there pageants? Oh yeah, yeah yeah, pageant You have
Speaker 1: a pageant background? Oh yeah? Wow? Seriously, well, well complicated, complicated.
Speaker 1: Basically I was a singer as a child, and I
Speaker 1: was really good. I mean, I've posted videos of it
Speaker 1: that I would. I wept when I saw now because
Speaker 1: it's just so powerful to see a little girl singing
Speaker 1: a song about heartbreak so earnestly literally has no idea.
Speaker 1: I was three. One of my favorite things, three singing
Speaker 1: crazy about Patsy Cline at the stay on one of
Speaker 1: the most I'm telling you so like it's powerful. So
Speaker 1: I was. I was a good singer. I had a
Speaker 1: vocal coach, and she was like, oh, you should do
Speaker 1: pageants because her granddaughter did pageants. And so my parents
Speaker 1: were divorced and busy, and they were kind of like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: go take voice lessons, do that, get out of the house.
Speaker 1: I'm busy. So I just started doing them. But I
Speaker 1: was kind of like little miss Sunshine, Like I was
Speaker 1: kind of clueless and and and was always the one
Speaker 1: with like the crappiest dress and like you know, and
Speaker 1: the award for the child who got the least help
Speaker 1: from their parents Lasa Simpson. You know. Um but it
Speaker 1: was interesting and I look back at it and it's crazy,
Speaker 1: you know. Um My mom, I'd add a lot of curlers.
Speaker 1: I wore a lot of girl you know. But it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's a thing that's crazy. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it's easy for me as an outsider to romanticize
Speaker 1: all this for you, but you know, yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: you know, but then I sort of caught you where
Speaker 1: you are too. I guess I don't remember enjoying it,
Speaker 1: but I'm but I'm sure I did. It's on some
Speaker 1: level because why was I doing. I could have been
Speaker 1: like I would rather sit home and play the SAMs,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I wasn't that deep endop.
Speaker 1: My friend was like little miss Texas, this this, and
Speaker 1: this title trophies taller than her crowns that would hit
Speaker 1: the ceiling of this room. I mean, she was like
Speaker 1: super into it, and I feel like always seeing her
Speaker 1: and then I would always win talent, but I would
Speaker 1: never win overall ever, and I was it was kind
Speaker 1: of shitty. It felt shitty, you know, honestly. Okay, here's
Speaker 1: the thing, Jackie, you're out there Texas Pageant circuit. When
Speaker 1: in talent trophies you have that in common with Beyonce
Speaker 1: just like I mean, listen to But it set me
Speaker 1: up for all this. I love, like I love the
Speaker 1: idea of like accessible glamour, yes, and everyone deserves that
Speaker 1: and finding how to get that in your life and
Speaker 1: what you how when what you want to use and
Speaker 1: not use in tracking that and just doing what makes
Speaker 1: you feel the most beautiful on the inside and out,
Speaker 1: and that beauty is for you. Anyone else is for you.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. So that's kind of what nash
Speaker 1: beauty is. And that's and I just love Nashvie. We
Speaker 1: mainly talk with comedians, you know, and and my friends
Speaker 1: and my friends that are actors, and I'm just like, so,
Speaker 1: what are you using right now? I'm using this why,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been using it for eight years.
Speaker 1: Does it work? I guess, Honey, I can find you
Speaker 1: something that works better than contests on animals that you know,
Speaker 1: supports women of color, you know, all these other things,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what it is. Just having fun
Speaker 1: and also a word commonly, honey. We're all talking about
Speaker 1: that you were you were honey. My fans are called
Speaker 1: the Honeys. They named themselves that. Well, that's why that's
Speaker 1: why this was. This resonates so deeply with me your
Speaker 1: work because I get it. I almost bought a shirt.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of mystique Boutique? I saw it
Speaker 1: on I walked past it. It's on Canal, It's kind
Speaker 1: of in that area. But I went in and they
Speaker 1: had a shirt that said, honey, did you go shop
Speaker 1: my size? Yeah? I kind of just went around. They
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta salt bagel with vegan schmir. I
Speaker 1: love a love you, thank you, because we need to
Speaker 1: we need to legitimize salt. Big. I agree. I didn't
Speaker 1: even know they were saying. My friends that live in
Speaker 1: l A, they're from New York, they should always buy
Speaker 1: bagels and I always eat them. And I was like,
Speaker 1: what is this? Because I am a salt for I love.
Speaker 1: I add salt to almost everything. Oh yeah, we're a
Speaker 1: little sodium little boys. If we got if we get
Speaker 1: into the restaurant and there's soy sauce, it's on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my sister as she's listening, hyang. My sister will always
Speaker 1: always get on my case about before I even taste
Speaker 1: the food putting salt on it, just like why are
Speaker 1: you doing that? Like you don't have to do it.
Speaker 1: It sure does, sure does, now just a little bit
Speaker 1: on top. And also when people I know I have
Speaker 1: my I don't think so honey, never mind, Okay, I
Speaker 1: just want to say, Jackie, that was a great answer
Speaker 1: about realized amazing that that that was. I love that
Speaker 1: answer about about your approach to veganism, or just your
Speaker 1: suggestion to everyone to just do their best, because even
Speaker 1: at whatever layer they're at, we all know how fucking
Speaker 1: horrible it is. By now we all know, you know,
Speaker 1: there just the world. Yes, you have to be blind
Speaker 1: in death. Yeah, and all the reasons because the environmental
Speaker 1: impact the health. We all know. That's because it's hard
Speaker 1: to recon rehabilitate your brain and life around this entire
Speaker 1: new set of principles that we have not been told
Speaker 1: our whole lot. I mean I grew up in Texas
Speaker 1: in the nineties. Yeah, you think I don't know my
Speaker 1: way around the chili's menu? Yeah? Way? Was there recently
Speaker 1: documentary with nataliemportment that she did h yeah? Uh? Eating animal,
Speaker 1: eating animals, Yeah, I haven't seen it. I don't need to.
Speaker 1: I don't need to, Like earthen things, I don't need
Speaker 1: to see because you're aware already. I don't. I know
Speaker 1: it all. I know it all. And there's a ton
Speaker 1: of docks, cowspiracy, cow spiracy we gotta watch, but I
Speaker 1: mean they're all great. Eating animals is specifically about factory
Speaker 1: farm and they focus on factors and you know all
Speaker 1: that already. I just I don't. I don't need to
Speaker 1: see it. It will only upset me aware, But I
Speaker 1: was just and I think the point of the documentary
Speaker 1: is what sort of what Jackie is alluding to is
Speaker 1: that any level, any layer you're at in veganism, you
Speaker 1: you will make an impact in some way. And that's
Speaker 1: just just be down with it. Like I have friends
Speaker 1: and family members who literally won't eat a meal without
Speaker 1: meat on the plate. They won't and do you. But
Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm just down if you're down to
Speaker 1: like go get some with me and like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's just you know, a little little
Speaker 1: differences every and make a little change that goes along
Speaker 1: way from all the vegan restaurants out there. Cute as hell,
Speaker 1: delicious eat tasting cute as hell by Lizzo. Okay, tasting
Speaker 1: cute as hell. I've been having the most amazing like
Speaker 1: vegan food trip around New York. My Honey's gave me
Speaker 1: tons of rags. There's some diner in Brooklyn are meeting
Speaker 1: while Yes, that sounds so fun. Yeah, that's great to
Speaker 1: give back. I just need somebody to tell me they're listening.
Speaker 1: I went, you know, I'm tangible. This this is totally
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like anyone's listening. But then, but then the
Speaker 1: people who do are just the best, um and great
Speaker 1: vegan restaurants in Montreal. I went to one with Julio
Speaker 1: and it was delicish, remember you, yeah yeah yeah yeah. Um. Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: I think it's time. I think it's time for I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, So Matt and I will go first.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. This is, of course, are
Speaker 1: our minute long segment where we take one minute to
Speaker 1: really on something in culture. And I would say, we're
Speaker 1: you know it thinks to John Guy Ramsey in that review,
Speaker 1: we are we're returning to form here. John Gane, by
Speaker 1: the way, needs to be a writer if they're not
Speaker 1: wonder beautiful beautiful, beautiful pros beautiful pros and honest, okay
Speaker 1: to right for up rocks or something. And also, just
Speaker 1: by the way, f y I you guys. September two,
Speaker 1: we are at the Brooklyn Comedy Festival at Brooklyn Bazaar
Speaker 1: doing I don't think so honey alive with some talent
Speaker 1: to be announced. We don't yet have a time, which
Speaker 1: I think is bizarre. And this is the tea but
Speaker 1: we'll find out. We'll find out, then we'll let you know. Okay, So, Matt,
Speaker 1: I think you have one. I think it's so funny
Speaker 1: that you said we're going to be turning a leaf
Speaker 1: on this episode because of the review, and now we're
Speaker 1: I think I will be. I will be biting. But
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: his time starts now. I don't think so, honey. People
Speaker 1: when I'm out with you at dinner and I put
Speaker 1: some lemon on the food, and you say, why did
Speaker 1: you do that? Because lemon is good, bitch. That's why
Speaker 1: I put the lemon on there, because to make it
Speaker 1: taste better. If you're gonna have a food or a fish,
Speaker 1: especially fish without lemon, you're fucking sick. I want lemon
Speaker 1: all over my food, honey, in fact, drenched like like
Speaker 1: Shelly Winters and the Posse Sidon Adventure. I want to
Speaker 1: see this fish drenched and learning. And then don't take
Speaker 1: a tone with me when I try to elevate your
Speaker 1: dying experience with your nonsense. You know what a bland faced? Sorry,
Speaker 1: do you know what what a plain fish taste like?
Speaker 1: A bland fish? You need lemon, especially on your fried food.
Speaker 1: You're fried fish. Are we allowed to eat fish with
Speaker 1: no vegan vegan? I don't think so, honey, Um, no lemon. Okay.
Speaker 1: That's one minute Matt had to ask the question, is
Speaker 1: fish okay to eat for vegans? I agree? And also line,
Speaker 1: if there's a lime, I'll toss that, Honey, I will
Speaker 1: put lime all over. They need to put more than
Speaker 1: one wedge. More than one wedge. Hold me a whole
Speaker 1: handful of wedge. If I have wood in front of
Speaker 1: me in a lime thing, I say, I say thanks
Speaker 1: God for the lime. And when there was a story,
Speaker 1: a news story that h a few years ago, we
Speaker 1: were going to be low onlines because of the situation. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was a dark day. I was like, we need limes.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something? Do you'll remember the like
Speaker 1: avocado epidemic? You know why? That was because McDonald's came
Speaker 1: up with a new sandwich with avocado on it and
Speaker 1: it caused a world wide shortage. I thought that was
Speaker 1: a cartel thing. No, that's not what I heard. She's
Speaker 1: got inside Jackie. Jackie's got camp sources all over McDonald's twitter. Honey,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that I feel that my
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Was good for the first
Speaker 1: forty seconds, and you know it was pretty I loved it.
Speaker 1: I like that for the love. UM, don't think so honey. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, I got I got it. His time
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so honey. MTV, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. I'm coming after all of kom No, not
Speaker 1: not all of ICM. We love Comedy Central, such great program,
Speaker 1: But MTV, you were like this cultural paul in my childhood,
Speaker 1: where kids at school I famously did not grow up
Speaker 1: with cable kids at school. Your social currency was your
Speaker 1: knowledge of whatever the funk happened on the Hills the
Speaker 1: night before, Bitch, I did not blink an eye bad
Speaker 1: and I when they announced this faux Hill's red breathe,
Speaker 1: it was happening. Okay, here's here's the deal. Whitney's not
Speaker 1: coming back, Lauren's not coming back, and what that other
Speaker 1: fucking Kristen. Okay, but listen, also, I don't think so
Speaker 1: many the Hills, bitch, what a fucking nothing show, fucking
Speaker 1: bland milk toast as show and which nothing ever fucking happened.
Speaker 1: We did not know why Lauren and Heidi gone to
Speaker 1: a fight right second. Fuck MTV, Fuck the Hills, fuck
Speaker 1: the vietnames and fun the Vinas for enabling people like
Speaker 1: Madonna to do to dress up like a fucking post
Speaker 1: Malone doll, and death the Creator read his name one
Speaker 1: minute in an hour. Thank you. Um. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: that that I want to say about the Hills reunion.
Speaker 1: What I said, it would have been the funniest thing ever.
Speaker 1: If they all came out on stage and said, everyone,
Speaker 1: we're happy to announce the Hills was returning and Elsie
Speaker 1: wasn't there, and they said, and it's true, And if
Speaker 1: they all moved to the side and in the back
Speaker 1: of the door came open and a bigger fanfare that
Speaker 1: j Lo got. Elsie. You walk down the stairs. Everyone's
Speaker 1: in the audience screaming. Beyonce's on her feet screaming and crying,
Speaker 1: and Elsie looks so beautiful in a flow length gown
Speaker 1: and she's like, that's right, I'm returning to the Hills.
Speaker 1: I said, that should have been what happened, okay. Um.
Speaker 1: I used to always see them at the clubs when
Speaker 1: I do. I used to always see them at let
Speaker 1: do I remember moving to the city when the city
Speaker 1: was coming out the City's really nothing happened on that
Speaker 1: because she was nothing happened in her personality. You remember
Speaker 1: the Hills or the Laguna Beach theme song, um, let
Speaker 1: the rain fall down and wake mares, let it wash
Speaker 1: show away, because I want to hear that. I want
Speaker 1: to let the rainfall down. I'm coming clean, I'm coming clean.
Speaker 1: That's that song actually had a good like Yes okay,
Speaker 1: but that chorus could have shaved off that last I'm
Speaker 1: coming clean. It's was indulgent. It was indulgent. I mean,
Speaker 1: it all comes back to Hillary Uff. That's real number
Speaker 1: twenty nine of culture. It all comes back to Hillary Duff.
Speaker 1: And also we can never forget um the Natasha, Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you, okay. So this Jackie john I've done some,
Speaker 1: I've prepared, If that's okay, Come on. This hits my
Speaker 1: process oriented centers so hard. I love this jockey. This
Speaker 1: is Jackie Johnson's I don't think so, honey. Her time
Speaker 1: starts now going to bed without taking your makeup off,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. I know you're tired, I
Speaker 1: know life is hard, but take five minutes and take
Speaker 1: care of that damn face. Do you want to attract
Speaker 1: eyelash MITESA google it sweedie, grab the cleanser, wash those
Speaker 1: dead skin cells off. If you don't, boards are gonna clog.
Speaker 1: Skin is gonna be dull. You're gonna get wrinkles because
Speaker 1: sleeping and makeup breaks down your skin barrier and ages
Speaker 1: your face. And you know how you've obsessed. Our culture
Speaker 1: is second. As Heidi says, one day you're in and
Speaker 1: the next day you're out. Youth has wasted on the young.
Speaker 1: Don't be lazy and don't take your youth for granted.
Speaker 1: Do a nightly skin routine and if you won't, at
Speaker 1: least get a damn makeup wipe and drag it across
Speaker 1: your face before going to bed. I have six words
Speaker 1: for you. I don't think so huh. That's one minute. Triumphant, beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 1: That was amazing, and that's for everybody. Yes, an educational
Speaker 1: above all else. Did you know about eyelash mites so
Speaker 1: they we have to talk about. We have talked about
Speaker 1: eyelash mites. That sounds very scary and threatening. They are
Speaker 1: called follical mites and they are on all of our
Speaker 1: faces right now. Oh my god. And if you don't
Speaker 1: wash off your makeup. Then it makes them way worse.
Speaker 1: If you ever see like little rednesses around people's nose
Speaker 1: and eyes, that's probably what I'm telling you. They're in
Speaker 1: our follicles. They mate. They they're fun in our heads,
Speaker 1: sucking in our eyelashes. They're meeting their soulmate, they're having children,
Speaker 1: they're raising families. They have full lives on our face. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where I want to live. My airbnb is basically
Speaker 1: an eyelash. Where are you saying? Lower side? Oh and
Speaker 1: then that's an eyelash hunting. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: that means. No, here's the thing. Can I be vegan
Speaker 1: but also eat deep fried eyelashed mates? I think we
Speaker 1: can make one one exception. Yeah, well, you know there
Speaker 1: is something to eating bugs because it's a more sustainable
Speaker 1: protein source. And you could argue that they don't have
Speaker 1: like um is, dracrine systems or something. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: argue with that. So I don't know there is something
Speaker 1: to that. I feel like someone's asked me before, like
Speaker 1: would you eat crickets? And it's like I don't need that.
Speaker 1: But if we ever get to a point in society
Speaker 1: which we will because you're running out of our resources.
Speaker 1: If we need a sustainable protein source, then maybe I'll
Speaker 1: bust out some crickets. I don't know. I mean they
Speaker 1: don't have right, I don't know. I was going to
Speaker 1: say soul, but endocan system as well. I fucking love
Speaker 1: this episode. This episode. Let me tell you something. It
Speaker 1: actually I think through conflicts through the age. That's like
Speaker 1: we came together, absolutely, and I think it's a historic
Speaker 1: episode because I was forced to admit some of Kelly's faults.
Speaker 1: This is this is huge, Chuck. I mean Kelly doesn't
Speaker 1: even writer her own sounds. Yes she does. She tries
Speaker 1: half of them, roughly half. She actually wrote my favorite
Speaker 1: song that she does, which is actually the song that
Speaker 1: we're gonna close out too, because we close that every
Speaker 1: time with the song. But here we have to say,
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Speaker 1: something every I love. Oh god, I love a good
Speaker 1: If it's a funny beauty blog, I'm down. I'm sold.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you're sounds like you're going to be a consumer.
Speaker 1: Are you going to be a honey. I'm gonna be honey.
Speaker 1: I think we are. I think honey, we're honey. This
Speaker 1: is my favorite Kelly Clarkson talk on. She wrote these
Speaker 1: words because I want you to know that it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: We'll take this road. Someone's gotta go, and I want
Speaker 1: you to know you better. I want to so already
Speaker 1: gun and I guess it'll be easy to skip to
Speaker 1: the karaoke parts if you didn't like that, gen Gencone
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