1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: All right back here on the KSR pregame show, and 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: something I don't know that I ever thought would happen, 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: joining us Rick Patino, Rick. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: How are you? 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 3: I'm great. It's I'm going to visit my house tonight 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 3: where I live. 7 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: Matthew Mitchell still live there, Yes. 8 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 3: He does, and he was nice enough to invite me 9 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 3: over and my kids. We built the house. Bill Wanna 10 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: built the house and my kids were just young then. 11 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: Now one's forty five, so time is best. 12 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough age. 13 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: What was it like last night with the ovation and 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: being back and rop and the you know, adelation you 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: got from the fan. 16 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: You know, I came within inches of crying my eyes out. 17 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: It was really very emotional for me because I was 18 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: backstage in the back with all my players and that 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: was great to see them, even Todd Sobota who's gone 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: through a very difficult time and and then seeing all 21 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: the guys was very very emotional for me, and then 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: walking out became more emotional. 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: Was there a hesitation? 24 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: Did you worry about what the reaction would be or 25 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: did you feel like it would be positive? 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: You know, I didn't know I was going to speak. 27 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: I didn't obviously know I was going to get that 28 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: type of ovation, but it was one of the better 29 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: nights of my life. So it was really it really 30 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: touched me. 31 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: So let me ask you about I mean, you love 32 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: this place and then you know you end up going 33 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: to Louisville, et cetera during that period of time. Did 34 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: you think I'll be able to go back there? 35 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: I was hoping, you know, hoping. Obviously didn't end well 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: for me at the other place, and and I wanted 37 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: to come back to this place because I had I 38 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: never had a bad day here, you know, never had 39 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: Everybody has a bad, bad month, bad year with a job, 40 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: but I didn't have both providence in Kentucky, I never 41 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: had a bad day. And that's that's interesting when you're 42 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: a coach, not to have a bad day, bad week, 43 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: bad month. 44 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: But it's now to be in the I mean, you're 45 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: in a rivalry and you're at Louisville. I've always thought 46 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: it's got to be hard to be at Louisville and 47 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: like Kentucky, or be at Kentucky and like Louisville. How 48 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: did you find yourself balancing that? 49 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 3: You know, it's sort of like the Mets and Yankees. Now, Okay, 50 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: So although Louisville, Kentucky's a lot different, I'm rooting for 51 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: the Mets. I am a die hard Yankee fan. Grew 52 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: up worshiping Mickey Mantle. Names that are a lot older 53 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: than you, obviously, but man oal Maris, Howard Barraw, they 54 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: were my idols growing up as a kid. But I 55 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: root for the Mets. So it's different with Kentucky. Though. 56 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: Kentucky is different than any job I've ever had because 57 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 3: you it's special. Yeah, it really is a special place. 58 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: You get very emotional when you. I told the kids 59 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: downstairs and said, you're not going to realize it now 60 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: because you haven't grown up in Kentucky, not all of you. 61 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: But someday you're going to come back here and you're 62 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: going to realize what it meant to put on that uniform. 63 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: What's it like in twenty twelve, in the Final four, 64 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen in Indianapolis and the Sweet sixteen? 65 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: What's that locker room? Right? 66 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: Because you can't kind of put it like you're both 67 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: trying to reach that goal. Well, you mean, and when 68 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: you play in Kentucky those two times. 69 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, they it was a good game, very good game, 70 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: and I was proud of our guys. We missed a 71 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 3: mid range jump shot which would have made a. 72 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: Very close remember that shot. 73 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: But they had Kyle Currick I think took the show. 74 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 2: But they had a great team. 75 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, great team, and certainly just to make the final 76 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: four was awesome buff of the state of Kentucky to 77 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: play each other and have this type of you know, 78 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: we're a small state and you had two teams in 79 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: the final four. 80 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: So tell me about Pope reaching I assume he said, coach, 81 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: I want you here. And I actually believe the video 82 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: you made that morning the day he was hired actually 83 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: was a big part of the fan base getting behind this. 84 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: What made you feel like this was the time to 85 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: kind of re engage with this. 86 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: Well, because Mark is is my captain of a champiship team, 87 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: so it was the time for me to come back 88 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: because he's the coach and he's a special guy. I 89 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: went to visit him at Utah Valley State when I 90 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 3: was out of work, and I never knew these two 91 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: guys would be great coaches. One was Billy Donovan and 92 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: the second was Mark Pope. Because Mark was a Rhodes 93 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: Scholar candidate learning to become a doctor. Billy Donovan was 94 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 3: a shy, humble kid. Both had the same qualities. It 95 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: was never about them, it was always about what they represented. 96 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: They didn't have egos. I call egos, you know, edging 97 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: greatness out. If you have confidence, that's great, but egos 98 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: not great. And both Billy and Mark had the same 99 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: quality of humility, selflessness. And I knew after watching market 100 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: Utah Valley State practice he was going to be a 101 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: great one. He's a great offensive coach. He knows how 102 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: important defense is. And I thought he was the perfect choice. 103 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 3: And that's why I did the video. I not on Twitter, 104 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: although I tweet. My son tweets it out. My son 105 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: tweets out my. 106 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: You don't sit there with the your phone and type 107 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: it with your thumbs. 108 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know how to do it. 109 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: He tweets out what I want to say, okay, And 110 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: I don't have to read the bad things. 111 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to do that. I do. 112 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: So I did the video because he was telling me 113 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: that a lot of people are really against Mack Popey 114 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 3: and coach did want the bail I got to want. 115 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: I said, no, man, he's the perfect guy and I 116 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: did that video just to help the Kentucky fans understand 117 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: this is the perfect guy. 118 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: But and I think it worked. But then I also 119 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: thought think it brought back for a lot of Kentucky 120 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: fans the warmness they had for when they were younger 121 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: and you were the coach when you were at Louisville. 122 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: Obviously Kentucky fans and media probably myself included not probably, yes, 123 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: we're hard on you. Do you did you find yourself 124 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: holding any bitterness? I mean, I think it would be 125 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: natural if you did. 126 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: No. I guess what you don't understand, Matt, is this. 127 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: I was at a low point in my basketball life. 128 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: It was the first time I failed with Boston Celtics, 129 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 3: first time I failed, and all I wanted to do 130 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: was get back to this place. Not thinking Louisville, Kentucky, 131 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: but just thinking I had such great memories of working here. 132 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: I just want to get back to the state where 133 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: I had so many friends. I said it at my 134 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame speech. If friendships in life could be 135 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: the rallying point for someone self esteem and so on, 136 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: then for me, I'd be doing Warren Buffett of friendships 137 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: because I made so many great friends here. It lifted 138 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: my spirits up so much to come back. But I 139 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: took the Michigan job. 140 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: Oh, A lot of fans, myself included, said they wish 141 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: you had taken it, because then it wouldn't have been 142 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: a thing. 143 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 144 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: So I'd signed with Michigan, and my wife said, look, 145 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: you know Kentucky, you have all your friends there. You 146 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: don't know Michigan. You know no one. You'll be happier. 147 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: So with that in mind, I came back. Certainly had 148 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 3: a lot of great years. I loved my players, the 149 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: fans were great to me. But now it gave me 150 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: a chance to put it all back together because I 151 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: don't know if I'll get the opportunity. 152 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: So when Kentucky fans were coming at you as the 153 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Louisville coach, that didn't hurt. 154 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: It hurt, but I understood it. Okay, it hurt, but 155 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: I understood it. I understand. When I went to Greece, 156 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: the greatest rivalry I've ever seen in my lifetime was Pontataikos. 157 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: I've heard Olympiacos. Yeah, one of my players was the 158 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: best man at the wedding of somebody from Olympiacos, and 159 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: Nick I had to meet that I've became the national coach. 160 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: I had to meet them at twelve o'clock at night 161 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: at the Starbucks because they couldn't be seen together. Oh 162 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: like wrestling, So I understood it. But now it's behind me. 163 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: I'm met Saint John's and it's great. It's behind me. 164 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: I can appreciate all the memories. 165 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: So you can do you do you now that you've 166 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: had that moment? Do you think you'll come back here 167 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: more often? 168 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: Definitely? Because Rick ave On, my business partner and very 169 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: very dear friend, and I have so many great friends here. 170 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: Seeing the players was very emotional for me last night, 171 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: very emotional. 172 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Just a couple quick things because they're telling me you 173 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: gotta go, so let's go. Are you really a UK 174 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: football don't? 175 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: Oh? 176 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: Oh? 177 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: I gave well, I don't want to say what I gave. 178 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: I didn't give a lot of money. They gave fifteen 179 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. 180 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Yeah. 181 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: And Mark Stoops came in and I was nice enough 182 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: to come in. Eddie Gran's a good friend of mine. 183 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 3: They came in to play golf with me. We played wingfoot, 184 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: We had a great time. I love Mark Stoops, love 185 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: Eddie I was just coming. I wasn't coming in for 186 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: Big Blue Madness. I didn't think I could make it 187 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: because of the practice schedule, but I was able to 188 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: change it to one o'clock, so I was able to 189 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: make it. But originally I wasn't planning on So you 190 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: are going to the game tonight. I am going to 191 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: the game. 192 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: I'm going in. 193 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: I hope they're gonna win. I'm gonna be on the 194 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: sidelines for a while. I'm a big Mark Stoops fan. 195 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: What he's done with Kentucky football. They said couldn't be done, 196 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: and he's done it. I watched the Old Miss game, 197 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: was awesome. Even the Georgia game was awesome. And I 198 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: hope they get tonight. 199 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: Do you think you will have a series where you're 200 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: playing and rup with Saint John. 201 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: I want to play play Kentucky with trying to work 202 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: it out. But Mark can't come back to Madison Square 203 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 3: Garden the following year because of commitments. So but with 204 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 3: trying to work it out, I would actually love I'm 205 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: sure Mark wants to go to the Garden. I would 206 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 3: love to play the game in author Esh Stadium in 207 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: front the twenty three thousand. 208 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: Oh dude, That would be amazing. 209 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can get that done, but it's up to 210 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: Mark whether he would the players always want to play 211 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: in Madison. 212 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: That would actually be that would actually be really cool. Well, 213 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: one thing I want to say to you before you go. 214 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: We have a very good mutual friend in Paron Johnson, 215 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: who played for you at Louisville, who helped set this up, 216 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: and he has always said to me, you two guys 217 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: would actually like each other after all of the things. 218 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: And I think it is big of you to do this. 219 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: I really mean that, and I appreciate it. I wish 220 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: you luck and hopefully we can take a time where 221 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: we can sit and have a longer form interview. 222 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: That would be great. And I appreciate you having me 223 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 3: and I love the Kentucky fans want I want to 224 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: see the football team camp tonight and go home with 225 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: a smile on my face. 226 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: All right, Rick, Thanks, Thanks man.