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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From House Towards dot com. Hey there, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Is this Kristen and this is Molly, So Molly.

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Speaker 1: A few months ago we did a podcast on a

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Speaker 1: little term called the lipstick indicator. Yes, and in a nutshell,

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Speaker 1: of course, you can learn more details in the podcast,

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Speaker 1: But in a nutshell, lipstick indicator is this idea that

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Speaker 1: in the downturn economy, the sign of um people's shrinking

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Speaker 1: budgets are arise in certain certain goods. And so according

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Speaker 1: to this lipstick indicator, they're saying that since women can't,

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Speaker 1: you know, by go out and buy ourselves pairs of

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Speaker 1: two thousand dollar Minola's, UM, we still can't afford certain

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Speaker 1: small pick me ups such as lipsticks. They're saying that

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Speaker 1: when the economy goes bust, the sales of makeup and

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Speaker 1: especially lipstick go up, because we need something a quick

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Speaker 1: pick me up, you know, to make us feel like

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Speaker 1: we're on top of the world when we have no

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Speaker 1: money at all. But I also think that too many

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Speaker 1: women lipstick is just an absolute must have. You know.

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Speaker 1: They may cut out their latte's, they may cut out

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Speaker 1: the big shopping spreeze, but so many women will not

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Speaker 1: leave the house without lipstick on my mom won't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Chris and I are not good examples of this. I

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Speaker 1: don't know where the most qualified people talk about lipstick,

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Speaker 1: but today we're gonna try because I hate lipstick. Never

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Speaker 1: wear it for chapstick, but not lipstick. I remember one

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Speaker 1: time I got one of those kiddie makeup kits, which

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Speaker 1: are pretty common, Like I think young girls one of

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Speaker 1: their first like sort of transition into adulthood toys is

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Speaker 1: like a makeup kit. Was this when you were the child? Ball? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I just bought an intro to makeup hit. Um no.

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Speaker 1: I remember I had a friend come over and she

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Speaker 1: was very expert. I was had a very keen eye

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Speaker 1: for watching her mother in the mirror, so she was

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Speaker 1: applying makeup like this little adult. I took the lipstick

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Speaker 1: just sort of using lipstick as my as my brush,

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Speaker 1: and my face is my canvas. So you had no

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Speaker 1: clue where lipstick when that's awesome, Molly, Well, I think

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Speaker 1: I knewhere I went. It just didn't please me esthetically

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Speaker 1: the way drawing it all over my face did? Your

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Speaker 1: a renegade, Molly, I am a renegade because most of

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Speaker 1: women during history, I've known exactly how to do this,

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Speaker 1: even when they didn't have the nice convenience of lipstick

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Speaker 1: and a tube, even they didn't make their own, they

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Speaker 1: lipstick starts with Cleopatra obviously, you know, the most most

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Speaker 1: famous and last pharaoh of ancient Egypt, and a famed beauty,

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Speaker 1: famed beauty, and she wore she wore lipstick made of

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Speaker 1: crushed ants and carmine in a base of bees wax.

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Speaker 1: So I mean that's that's a commitment to my lipstick.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not willing to make crushed ants. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to crush my ants up. But women as far

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Speaker 1: back as three thousand BC, we're mixing up ingredients that

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Speaker 1: include things like seaweed, um, bromian manni which was halogen

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Speaker 1: especially the upper class woman, as as coloring for the lips.

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Speaker 1: But only the person who was credited with creating the

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Speaker 1: first lipstick that was actually a stick. It was dude,

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Speaker 1: a Muslim and Lucian known his name was Abu al

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Speaker 1: Kasim al Zarawi. I'm correctly, um, he created, yes, the

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Speaker 1: first stick lipstick around a D nine hundred, and he

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Speaker 1: created a wax base for the pigment. He perfumed it

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Speaker 1: which is not just witches, Molly, but witches who attempted

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Speaker 1: the steak for it. How dare they learn men into marriage?

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Speaker 1: I guess sex pretty much. Yeah, but you know women

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Speaker 1: oh celemarities, but they were really the ones who cemented

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Speaker 1: the modern push up lipstick tube. It's commonplace by nineteen fifteen,

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Speaker 1: and now it sold bookoos and bookoos and UM, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know this, Molly, but Max Factor came along and

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Speaker 1: And during World War Two, not surprisingly, a lot of

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Speaker 1: lipstick ingredients like petroleum were unavailable, so UM, you kind

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Speaker 1: But then by the nineteen fifties, with stars like Marilyn

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Speaker 1: fabulous article that we have about how lipstick were points

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Speaker 1: Bowie a little bit. Yeah, but you know, what exactly

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Speaker 1: on our lips? And and there's some mind cases what

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Speaker 1: are we missing out on, Molly, Well, we're missing out

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Speaker 1: So I'm not too worried about it, but have no

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Speaker 1: fear these are not dangerous let's talk about what's in lipstick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that might include stuff like vitamin E and ali vera.

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Speaker 1: But you know people aren't really buying lipstick for the wax.

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Speaker 1: listed as carmine or cockneal extract and cockneal extract molly

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Speaker 1: Works has three recipes for how to make your own lipstick,

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