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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lolli. He is Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt it's a Tuesday. Mike Tomlin held his

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Speaker 1: press conference today and uh, well, some my good news

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Speaker 1: on the Kenny picket front. He could practice tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: probably will practice in some form or fashion tomorrow, and

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Speaker 1: Tomlin said there's an there's an opportunity there for him

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Speaker 1: to perhaps play on Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens. It's

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Speaker 1: a bone bruise. I would guess Payne tolerance will be

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Speaker 1: part of the issue there, but also how much practice

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Speaker 1: part of the part of that is that Tomlin is

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Speaker 1: going to have the team practice and pads on Wednesday

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Speaker 1: because the past two weeks, while we've enjoyed their Wednesday

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Speaker 1: practice schedule, it's not been their normal practice schedule. They've

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Speaker 1: they've bumped things back gone basically in helmets. It's been

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Speaker 1: kind of a walk through because of the you know,

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Speaker 1: playing a sun yeah, Monday night game into a Sunday

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Speaker 1: night game. The Sunday night game, you have a you

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Speaker 1: know trouble getting back and so Tomlin taking it easy

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Speaker 1: on his players and some people may look at that

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Speaker 1: and well, you know that's why. Yeah, you have to

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Speaker 1: weigh doing things the normal way with hey, we've got

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Speaker 1: fourteen weeks of schedule left after this. Can't beat everybody up.

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Speaker 2: And how much sleep did you get coming home with

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Speaker 2: the plane and all those type of things too.

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Speaker 1: Not using that as any kind of excuse. In fact,

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Speaker 1: Tom said, you know, as I was standing. Basically what

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Speaker 1: game unfold in Houston. He couldn't help but think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a padded practice on Wednesday because we're

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Speaker 1: losing the battle of physicality because we're not We're not

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Speaker 1: the low man wins in those situations. And when you

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Speaker 1: don't practice in pads, you don't get the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: practice that kind of physicality. And it showed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's great. I mean, I guess he

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Speaker 2: probably regrets not practicing and pads on Wednesdays. I will say, though,

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Speaker 2: that's a tough criticism. I mean, if you I our

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Speaker 2: listeners want to criticize him for boy, call time out

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Speaker 2: there or kick a field goal there, cool have at it,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But in terms of handling

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Speaker 2: a football, team, you're going to be in the building

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Speaker 2: he's usually generally exceptional with that.

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Speaker 1: So the one thing lost, the thing that he said

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Speaker 1: about that is he wanted those Wednesday practices to be

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Speaker 1: if you go in pads on that Wednesday, anybody who's

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Speaker 2: Going to at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not going to practice. So you're taking coming

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Speaker 1: out of the Sunday and Monday night games, you take

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Speaker 1: a situation where you might have ten guys who don't practice. Sure, Sure,

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Speaker 1: and they're going to be ten important guys because they

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Speaker 2: So I mean they're still in the meeting rooms and

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Speaker 2: think that's an obvious reaction to what we saw Sunday

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Speaker 1: He said, he we got we got beat physically, we

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Speaker 1: Right right? And wing was fine, Yeah, I mean that

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Speaker 1: But that game was more about what Cleveland didn't do atrocious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. It was just not.

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Speaker 2: the Brown's defense was really good in that game except

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Speaker 1: There more Lamar centric now than they've ever been.

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Speaker 1: The completion percentage just good because they're not throwing the

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of a lot of So the key

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Speaker 1: to test you on the edges with the passing game

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Speaker 2: You're right, they get to the edge in both Fastt's

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Speaker 2: Flowers is very good after the catch. They'll do a

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Speaker 1: That's like their whole passing game.

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Speaker 2: That's like their whole passing game. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't. And uh, I just that's the second

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Speaker 1: Lamar is completing seventy three percent of his passes.

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Speaker 1: He's not thrown with anything there's there's nothing down the field.

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Speaker 2: No, there's not. They're not pushing the deep season.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they won't do it this week against the Steelers. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: No, and their personnel usage is way different. I mean,

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Speaker 2: like they were an un believable outlier last year in

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Speaker 2: you know, where league average is at seventy five or something,

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Speaker 2: They haven't faced a murderer's row of teams either, you know,

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Speaker 2: like I know both the Steelers and Ravens played the Texans,

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Speaker 2: but Houston in Week one it was different. There was

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Speaker 2: much different. Yeah, they were very very young and learning Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: And two is the Cincinnati's offense right now is broken.

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Speaker 2: And so was Cleveland when they played.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so that's that's three. Who's the other

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Speaker 2: So what they are I don't really either.

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Speaker 1: I mean I had I had some ideas what the

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Speaker 1: we'll get to the power rankings later.

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Speaker 2: I just I mean, they're the best team in the

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Speaker 1: If if Deshaun Watson plays on Sunday, I think Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so they just needed competent quarterback playing that game.

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Speaker 1: you could see Broderick Jones, you could see still be

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's where the Steelers sit coming out of this.

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Speaker 1: after this on the Drive. Welcome back to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Alli. He is the Matt Williamson and Matts.

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin was asked today about the fourth and one

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Speaker 1: you did you consider a field goal in that situation?

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Speaker 1: He said, ye, Well, he said, in hindsight, we yeah,

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Speaker 1: He said, in hindsight, if I'd known the play wasn't

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Speaker 1: you know, sixteen to nine, uh, he said. But specifically

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Speaker 1: was then asked, well, you know why the pass planet

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Speaker 1: and he said, you know, at that point, Pat Friarmouth

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Speaker 2: And why you were saying Roderick Jones, He's saying, like

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Speaker 1: It could have gone to a jumbo pack, right, He said,

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Speaker 1: all the the armchair quarterbacks on Twitter, as I tweeted

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Speaker 1: moose not much of a run blocker anyways, what difference

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Speaker 2: Right, He's part of it.

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Speaker 1: He's part of your jumbo package. Whether you think he's

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Speaker 2: On game day and your jumbo package has these names

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Speaker 2: on it and you trot them out, and yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure Connor Hayward would be there instead, but he's not

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Speaker 1: But they've never gone done it.

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Speaker 2: They've never never done that either, Right, So that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: I mean people don't think about those things, you know,

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Speaker 2: they just don't just to bring your big guys out. Well,

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Speaker 2: they only have X amount of them available on game day,

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Speaker 2: and two of them were unavailable to you.

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Speaker 2: But you know, if you put a guard out there

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Speaker 2: We don't know the answer to that, but I unders

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Speaker 1: But you're also asking, then the Texans are going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're putting not as important players on the

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Speaker 2: so you really what it comes out.

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Speaker 1: So they decided to go for it with what they

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Speaker 1: I saw. I also saw somebody out there who supposedly

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Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about. He's a film analyst and

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Speaker 1: all this other stuff. The Steelers ran the same exact

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Speaker 2: I also, I totally believe you, but running the same

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Speaker 2: sin you know, you're allowed to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, on the fourth of one play runs a

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Speaker 1: He didn't come Yeah, he didn't come out of his break.

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Speaker 2: So all of you out there have every right, and

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Speaker 2: I understand criticizing the offense, the offensive coordinator that play

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Speaker 2: say whatever you want. If he does anything but roll

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00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 2: to his left with that goofy spin, move right into

436
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: Broderck Jones's guy, he probably could have completed won the nausey.

437
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 2: He probably could have scrambled for it. He probably could

438
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 2: have hit Hayward, which I think was his first option.

439
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, so kill Canada you want, fine, But

440
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 2: that play was not a design flaw. It was not

441
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 2: execution flaw by the quarterback.

442
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 1: Again, when when the players talk about we're not executing things,

443
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 1: that's what they're talking about.

444
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 2: They know, they know, well, they watched the film intently

445
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 2: and they know first read is to guy and the

446
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 2: whole world can see in the meeting room that he's

447
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 2: open on that play.

448
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: And if the quarterback's not throwing it, or is throwing

449
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: it late, or isn't seeing it or is running himself in,

450
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who's designing the place.

451
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't.

452
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 1: So and so right now, Pickett is a little I

453
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: don't know what it is.

454
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 2: Whether out of sorts is one way to putting it. Yeah,

455
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 2: he's not trusting things or not comfortable, or he's definitely

456
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: quick to move that much.

457
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: And I think last year maybe there were times last

458
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: year because he was so new to the game where

459
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 1: that worked for him. And it's much like young Ben

460
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger early early career Ben.

461
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 2: I've heard it in being called inviting chaos. Kenny likes

462
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: to invite chaos.

463
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 1: And guys got us some players thriving that he got

464
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 1: the key.

465
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: However, it's hard in this league, though, is.

466
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: That when opposing teams understand that you invite the chaos

467
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: right right, and then defend against that. Like this guy's

468
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,120
Speaker 1: going to roll to his left a lot. Okay, I'm

469
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: going to if I'm the outside defensive, If I'm the

470
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: left defensive end, and I know that he rolls to

471
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: his left seventy percent of the time, I'm going to

472
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: crash up field to the left.

473
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: Hard so perfect example, and we used to make fun

474
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: of it because it was the opponent. When Baker Mayfield

475
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: was a Brown, he.

476
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: Knew he wanted to escape.

477
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 2: Basically would sprint out to his right and TJB. White

478
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: and there for him, and he blast him in the

479
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,479
Speaker 2: next week. Well, the defense watches film too right, you know,

480
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: like you get tendencies, You get tendencies, and Kenny has them,

481
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 2: and one of them is leaving the pocket too soon

482
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: and inviting chaos and times he drops his head to

483
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: do it, and then you're not seeing the routes. I mean,

484
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 2: he needs to trust his protection more. And his protection

485
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 2: hasn't been great. It's easy for me to sit here

486
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: in the seat and be like, oh, just trust your protection.

487
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: You know I didn't just get blasted, and you know

488
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 2: they didn't do it. I did. I thought one thing

489
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: that align did poorly in this game, most several things,

490
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: but they didn't identify if I had stunts were stunts

491
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: and loops and which.

492
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: That brings me to another point. I'm looking I'm looking around,

493
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: Pat Meyer. I'm touring around the internet this morning and

494
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: I see on Pro Football Focus Isaac Samalu thirty two

495
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: pass blocks on on Sunday, no sacks all out. I'm

496
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: calling hogwash on.

497
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: That because he didn't do the job.

498
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: He didn't pick up the stunt on the first sack.

499
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: The first sack that Greener loops around to the inside,

500
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: Sam Malo's out there blocking the end or the the

501
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 1: the tackle and they're basically double teaming that guy, and

502
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: they allow Greener to loop on the inside if he

503
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: just gets an arm on him.

504
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: This isn't man coverage. The supposed to run across the formation.

505
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: That sacks completely on Sam all Yeah, yeah, no, I'm

506
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: not giving up the damn Moore just because Greener lined

507
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: up opposite him when when at the snap of the football.

508
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: Exactly, that's not his guy running behind the line of

509
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 2: scrimmage to go get their guy, right, That's not how

510
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: protections work.

511
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: How again, how Pro Football Focus, which again supposedly knows

512
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: what it is talking about. Hey, we do the grading system.

513
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: Everybody quotes Pro Football Focus. How they don't say that

514
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: sack was on sam Malu is beyond me.

515
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because I didn't know that. How they

516
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 2: credited him but I thought Sam Malu held up well

517
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: in protection for compared to his line mates. But that

518
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 2: was easily on him. I mean, it was not exactly

519
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: what you're talking about. He just didn't see it coming,

520
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: didn't leave his guy. But you got to do, you know.

521
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: I mean it's more of a zone concept than a

522
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: man called.

523
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: You're passing that guy off.

524
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know he's coming. You can't follow him as

525
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: a tackle. You're three hundred and thirty pounds and.

526
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna run into the guard. Yeah.

527
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, someone's probably coming that you

528
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 2: need to pick up too. I mean, you're not just

529
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: staying there doing nothing. What was I gonna saying that? Oh? So, well,

530
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: what do you think the Ravens are gonna do?

531
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: Right? They're gonna stunt like crazy?

532
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean the Ravens are playing well. Their

533
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: defensive numbers are obscenely good. I mean, again, they've played

534
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 2: some nice competition, but they don't have Bosa or Crosby

535
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: or Garrett. You know they're winning, they have they have

536
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: to scheme up the pass rush.

537
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

538
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: So you're gonna get a lot of it. You better

539
00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: be on top of this.

540
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, it's just it was a cacophony of

541
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: errors here if I use the right word there, I'm

542
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: let's say cornercopia of errors. It was just overflowing, as it.

543
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: Usually is in a game with eleven people on the

544
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: field together. It's usually not just one guy being terrible

545
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: or one coach.

546
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: If it were sad, was that, then you could fix

547
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: it easier. It would be you just go, Okay.

548
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna bench all them all over the bench picket

549
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: or whatever. But that's not the case, right, I mean,

550
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying changes shouldn't be made or explored. There's

551
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: no doubt because what they're doing is not working. But

552
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: talking to Wolf and talking about Oline stuff with him,

553
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: he's like, it boggles my mind because simple double teams

554
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: they're just not doing. I mean, unless except for the

555
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: Raiders game, doesn't matter, if it's Joe Green across from you,

556
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: it's still I double them. And then I go to

557
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: the next level and they're just not doing it. Nobody

558
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: leaves in the linebacker free or they both leave and

559
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 2: they let him go.

560
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: Like even the first run of the second half, the

561
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: Najee Harris gets what was it fifteen yards on the

562
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: offensive line, did get the double team on that one.

563
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: They come down, they crack down, They double team. Broderick

564
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: Jones is supposed to come across the formation and get

565
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: the backside blocker there or the backside pat rusher.

566
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he completely whiffs on this.

567
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: Just completely misses him. That's the guy that slows Harris

568
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: up at the line of scrimmage. Otherwise that might be

569
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: a thirty yard game. He's out of the gate quicker. Meanwhile,

570
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: he's gotta pull his leg free from this guy to

571
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and then get fifteen more yards because

572
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: the offensive line did what it was supposed to. One

573
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: player screwing something up. Oh makes everything look bad.

574
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: Then you got to adjust and you got to play

575
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: it by the seat of your pants, you know. And

576
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: to nause his credit, I mean, I think he was

577
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 2: one of the few bright spots in that game. He

578
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 2: got a lot of yardage on his own, and he

579
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: showed you what a back he can be. I mean,

580
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: imagine if blocking was a little better, you know, if

581
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: they'd make the mental wearrors.

582
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, he's the knock on nausea Harris, Well, he'll

583
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: he'll never get explosive runs. He's got explosive runs.

584
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: Every game more than he ever has.

585
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: Like he's popping off fifteen twenty yard runs like like nothing.

586
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not going to beat corners on the sideline.

587
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: He's not gonna get eighty no, right, but he's in

588
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: the space.

589
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: If he's getting fifteen and twenty yard runs in a game, Okay.

590
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know that. But it's just explode. That's

591
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: what he's doing best.

592
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: That's what Yeah, that is what he is doing best.

593
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: Through four games. That's his number. His best trait so

594
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 2: far is getting in the open field. And he's no fun.

595
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: I mean he's not Derrick Henry, but he's no fun

596
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: for d back with a little bit ahead of steam,

597
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: you knoweah. I mean he's into Derek henry neighborhood. But

598
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: Derek Henry will take it. Eight.

599
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: Now, would I have liked to have seen them run

600
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: the ball on fourth and one? Absolutely?

601
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah. I mean when he got in the shotguns,

602
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: like what are you doing?

603
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: In an ideal world? Yeah, if they'd have run the

604
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: ball out of the shot there, I would have understood it.

605
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: Based on Tomlin's we didn't have our big package available. Okay,

606
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: so you don't want to get a bunch of guys

607
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: bunched in around the line. I don't. I don't want

608
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: to line up in an eye or a you know,

609
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: or you know, a single back.

610
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: With I also want my worst players on the field

611
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: for the most important with the.

612
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: Most important play. So I get that again, I don't.

613
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: If the play call works, no one talks about Nobody

614
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: talks about it. If if if Pickett stays in the

615
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: pocket and delivers the ball, or if he stays in

616
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: the pucket instead of rolling to his left, even if

617
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: he doesn't throw the football there, if he runs forward

618
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: for a yard or even right or drifts, yeah, if

619
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: he does anything but that, anything but what he did.

620
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: That play worse. It's funny to me that it seems

621
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: like that play is being talked about to no end.

622
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: Is like, that's the example of all the bad things

623
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: that's not You can pick any play that doesn't work,

624
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: and I know that's a crucial one at a major down,

625
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: a distance situation and all that stuff, But if you

626
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: really watch the play, it was there.

627
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: It was there.

628
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: Hey, you know, like of all the things to be

629
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: critical of, be critical and not picking up the stunts

630
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: or missing open receivers or not tackling you know, it's

631
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: it was there.

632
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: This is the this is the thing that I've found

633
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: over the years covering this team. It's never the player's

634
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: fault unless it's unless the fan base doesn't like the

635
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: player right right, if it's if it's already Burns, or

636
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: it's whoever, if they if they have done something that

637
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: has turned the fan base on them, then anything that

638
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: they do is good. It never it's never good.

639
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: Kenny's gonna get some benefits of doubts he's getting.

640
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: He's getting some doubt right now. And I mean he's

641
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: not playing well, folks. No, I'm not gonna sugarcoat he

642
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: is not playing well.

643
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: He'll tell you that, I'm sure. I bet the quarterback

644
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: coach will tell you that. The head coach will.

645
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: Tell you that he needs to play better. Absolutely period.

646
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: Hey, fans can root for whoever you want. That's what

647
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: fandom is. And he can be your favorite player of

648
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: all time. And I hope he is, and I hope

649
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: he goes to the whole of fame. And I still

650
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be right.

651
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I'm not down on Kenny Pickett. I

652
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: think Kenny Pickett has an opportunity to be a really

653
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Speaker 1: good quarterback. I still wouldn't trade him for brock Perty.

654
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Speaker 2: His tape has not been good this year. That doesn't

655
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: mean he's horrible, but this is he deserves some heats

656
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: the ball.

657
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: This is this is what happens is kin to it

658
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: to baseball again or basketball, whatever it may be. Your

659
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: first time through the league, you kind of catch everybody

660
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: off guard. Okay, we don't. Stroud is a perfect example.

661
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: This when I asked, when I asked Tarrell Austin last

662
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: week if three games was enough tape on CJ. Stroud

663
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Speaker 1: to have an idea of what he is, and he said, no,

664
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Speaker 1: three games is not enough.

665
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: You need is a perfect example. Yeah, like he destroys

666
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: NFC teams who haven't played h because they haven't play

667
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: him in four years or you know, never have you know,

668
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: so and now people understand him better and he's a

669
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: great player, and he has shown that he can hit

670
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: the curveball or whatever. You know.

671
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: But you spend the league. You know what your schedule

672
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: is when it comes out, and so if you're an

673
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: opposing defensive coordinator, you spend that, you spend the entire

674
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: off season. You may see he may asked the Houston

675
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: Texans defensive coordinator. If he didn't he comes from he

676
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: comes from San Francisco, which one hundred percent spent two

677
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: or three weeks studying the Steelers tendencies and looking specifically

678
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: at Kenny Pickett. What did you guys do against him?

679
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: But the defense coordinators on the beach in July, he's,

680
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: you know, kid, I'm gonna watch.

681
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: Every play that Kenny Pickett played last year.

682
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Speaker 2: And you know Therell Austin's doing that, the Lamar in

683
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: the summer and Watson.

684
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Speaker 1: I remember Marvin Lewis telling me that he was Marvin

685
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: was the defensive coordinator in Washington and we were talking

686
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: in the off season. I called him up to do

687
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: a story on him because he's from Washington County. I

688
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: was still working at the Observer reporter and I called

689
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: Marvin up and I said, what are you doing? He said,

690
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm watching some Steeler tape? Like oh, because yeah, you know,

691
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't have to watch as much of it as

692
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: I did when I was a balt More. You know,

693
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: we would spend weeks preparing on how to beat the

694
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: Steelers because they were the team in the division. But

695
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: we played the Steelers this year and.

696
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: I want to be familiar with, right.

697
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Speaker 1: So, because what that does is it cuts down on

698
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: your study time during the week.

699
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: Sure, and they put some money in the bank a

700
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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what he did last week. You know, but

702
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: for a guy like Pickett, who you know, you don't

703
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: have a large body of work to look at here,

704
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: you don't have seasons well, looking back away, yeah, looking

705
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: back at what Roethlisberger did five years ago wasn't going

706
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: to do you any good. But you know, by year

707
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: seventeen he wasn't that guy anymore. Different player. But for

708
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: a younger player, he's not changing all that much.

709
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: No, he's trying to learn.

710
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: He's still trying to learn. So you study this. Okay,

711
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't throw this, he doesn't like this this, he

712
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: doesn't throw this rut particularly well. He doesn't recognize this

713
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: defensive coverage, he doesn't recognize that. You find those tennessees

714
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: and you exploit them.

715
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everybody has strengths of weaknesses. Garoppolo, for example,

716
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: They use a ton of play action, but when he

717
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: flips his eyes back to the field, he is very

718
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: slow to recognize linebackers and safeties where they used to

719
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: be in the middle of the field or where they

720
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: are now as opposed to so you flood the zone

721
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: with that stuff. I mean, yeah, And Pickett needs to

722
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: get better at those things because there's flaws that teams

723
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: are exploiting, and one of them to me is he

724
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: just isn't holding his water in the pocket.

725
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to be willing to stand in there

726
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: and not just try as well, I'm just going to escape.

727
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: And maybe it's because he got away with that early

728
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: in his career last year a little.

729
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: Bit, Yeah, and he got away with it a pit

730
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: and I do think.

731
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: And now it's starting to come back. Okay, Now teams

732
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: know all he's going to try to escape, and he's

733
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: probably going to roll to his left and it's probably

734
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: going to be that spin move to his left yep,

735
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: and they're playing to it.

736
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: And even last year his numbers were much better when

737
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: the ball came out of his hands in two point

738
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Speaker 2: five or less. And yes, he did a lot of

739
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: good things post two point five seconds, But what that

740
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: tells you is the play was drawn up right, he

741
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: read it right, and you hit it, you know what

742
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: I mean. Now, sometimes it doesn't come out in two

743
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: point five because it's not a good play called. Not

744
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: every one of them are okay.

745
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: Or somebody at the line of strancher or whatever.

746
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: Whatever, you know, so you have to improv, of course,

747
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: but you got to run the play as it's written out,

748
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: you know, first and foremost, as opposed to bailing and

749
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: dropping your helmet and stuff.

750
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get to another break. He is

751
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the

752
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with

753
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,080
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760
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

761
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: And Matt, you mentioned the division and how it's not

762
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: it's not what it was, kind.

763
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: Of what it was cracked up to be.

764
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: What it was cracked up to be. Let's still a

765
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: little state of the ate. We're through four games now,

766
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: so we're one quarter of the way through this this season.

767
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals don't look like the Cincinnati Bengals right.

768
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: Now, not even close.

769
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns are a very good defensive team, but

770
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: now they don't have Nick Chubb.

771
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: Correct, I assume Watson will be back sooner than later.

772
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, to say, yeah, and I still don't know what

773
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: he is.

774
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 2: No, I mean, the last we saw him was the

775
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: best he's played, but that was one.

776
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: Game against a really bad pass defense.

777
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, Uh. And then Baltimore's taking evangel.

778
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: Baltimore Baltimore again. I've watched two of Baltimore's games all

779
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: the way through, and I'm not seeing a great football

780
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: team there, but they're finding ways to win. And then

781
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: you've got the Steelers. We know that the performances have

782
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: been uneven. What do you make of this division right now?

783
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I think Lamar has been the MVP.

784
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: Of the division, been the best player in Yeah, and that.

785
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: Might be the difference. I mean, maybe that's enough. I mean, frankly,

786
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: if he was on the Bengals right now, they'll be

787
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: the best of it, you know, best team of the

788
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: division whatever. I don't know what to make the division.

789
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: I frankly think it hasn't revealed itself yet, and I

790
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: think all these teams are very underwhelming as it speaks,

791
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: as it sits today. I bet half of them get

792
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: it figured out. And I'm not even say the Ravens

793
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: have it figured out yet. I still think they're a

794
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: work in progress. They've been very fortunate with who they've played,

795
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 2: but they've also been the most injured team in the division,

796
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: you know, without question, although the biggest injury is the

797
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: guy that keeps going out there, and that's Burrow. He's

798
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: hurt the team more than he's helped them. Yeah, I

799
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: mean really has.

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Speaker 1: And this has been a situation where a couple of

801
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: years ago, Burrows asked, you know how long is your

802
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: you guys are Super Bowl contender? How long can that?

803
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 1: You know? How long? How long is your window open?

804
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: And he said as long as I'm here. Well, not

805
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: this year, not not playing like that, not this version

806
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: of Joe Burrow.

807
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what I would do or

808
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: I bet they have regrets saying probably should have sat

809
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: in the first two weeks, got this thing right, But

810
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: he's an ultimate commit out. Now you got to ride

811
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: it out and hopefully the bye, which I think is

812
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: two weeks away, is the cure. Or I don't think.

813
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 2: I don't think you can sit them like this, weeke

814
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: and next and then go through the bye because by

815
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: that point you might be one in six or one

816
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: in five or whatever. They don't have really difficult games

817
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: on the slate until the bye. But I didn't think

818
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: Tennessee was a difficult game, and they sloughted, smoked, they

819
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: got crushed. So stick with the Bengals.

820
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: Well, here's what so they played. They played the Cardinals

821
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: on the road this week. That is a road game,

822
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: so that won't be easy the.

823
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: Spread doing like three and a half. Yeah, Like if

824
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: you told me that before the season, I've been like

825
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: you nuts.

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Speaker 1: On October eighteenth, before their bye, they can play the Seahawks,

827
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Speaker 1: who just had ten sacks last night against Yeah, that.

828
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: Was more of a Giants problem than the Seahawk thing.

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00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that the Bengals offensive line is

830
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: that's all that much better than New York's.

831
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: You would think the Bengals as constructive to Orlando Brown

832
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: and mix in run it, run it, run it, take

833
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: a shot here and there to chase play defense. The

834
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: O line's doing nothing for them. I mean, I would

835
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: say their O line has been the worst in the division.

836
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: And that's I'm recognizing what the Steelers has done, folks. Yeah,

837
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: it's it's been really bad and Burrow doesn't trust it.

838
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: And the other thing that's interesting about the Bengals is

839
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: that injury is so bad for him because it's almost

840
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: like taking a leg off Lamar, like he his whole

841
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: game is I'm gonna read it out. I'm gonna sit

842
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: in the pocket, subtle little movements and I'm gonna drive

843
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: off my foot and I'm gonna, you know, everything's gonna

844
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: be timing in rhythm. And if my O line's not great,

845
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: I can live with it because I'm tough as nails

846
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: and I'll take the hits. But he's not able to

847
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: play his game. Yeah, you know, it would be better.

848
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: I mean, the running part doesn't matter. It's just he's

849
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: not really able to play in rhythm and with his

850
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: footwork and his light feet because of that injury. You know,

851
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: so be better for him if it was a shoulder

852
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: or you know, something like that ribs or something along

853
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: those lines, so he's not even able to use his

854
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: strength to overcome them. Right now.

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00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough, real tough. They better hope that the buye.

856
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: It's really bad right for that because they come out

857
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: of the bye, they have to go to San Francisco.

858
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: Then they come back home and they host Buffalo.

859
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they have back to back Super Bowl team. Yes, yeah,

860
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: that's what I mean.

861
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: Like, and then after that they get Houston at home,

862
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: Like that's no, gimme no.

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00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's to the point in there,

864
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: after losing that bad to Tennessee or even just getting

865
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: that loss, they have to win one of these two

866
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: before the.

867
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: Bye, if you and even then, I mean, I'm.

868
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: Looking and and the buy has to cure the.

869
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: Calf, Like I'm looking at their schedule.

870
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: Well, they have a first play schedule and yeah, a

871
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: lot of divisions.

872
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: So I just said they play. They play the forty

873
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: nine ers coming out of the bye. So before the

874
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: bye it's the Bengals and Cardinals, Seahawks at Bengals. Then

875
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: they get their buy at forty nine Ers, Bills at Bengals,

876
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: Texans at Bengals, Bengals at Ravens, Steelers at Bengals, Bengals

877
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: at Jaguars. It's Cults at Bengals going in, Vikings at Bengals. Now,

878
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: the Vikings have not played well. But if you can't

879
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: get into it, you can't. You can't go to Tennessee

880
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: and beat them. You're gonna lose a shootout to the

881
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: because you can't shoot out. You don't you've got two

882
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: bullets in your gun.

883
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: So I know it's a week away.

884
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: And then Bengals at Steelers, Bengals at Chiefs, and then

885
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: they close out with Browns a Bengals, Like.

886
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you got all the first place teams,

887
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: you got a lot of You.

888
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: Come out of that buy at like and you play

889
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: those first Let's see even if you split these these

890
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: next two games, and then you come out of the

891
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: by and you go zero and two. There right now

892
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: you're two and five.

893
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: Then you're two and five heading into that, Like that

894
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 2: might be best case scenario. I mean, maybe they're three

895
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: and four. I don't see it.

896
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: Not the way they're playing right now.

897
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: Like if they played today Seattle and Sinci. Seahawks are

898
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: favored on the road.

899
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: Right after what they just what they did last night.

900
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: But both teams did last week. Yeah, I think they're

901
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: I think I think the Bengals are home dog in

902
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: that game. Now, maybe they can get hot down the

903
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 2: stretch and be that wild card team that nobody wants

904
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: to play, you know. I mean, I think Burrow is tremendous.

905
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm never.

906
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm not questioning Burrow at all. I'm just questioning this

907
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: version of Burrow with that injury. We said it in

908
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: training camp. When it happens like this could be something

909
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: that lingers.

910
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: All season, Bridgewater's name out or you know, and if

911
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: maybe if you had that guy, you wouldn't have started

912
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: him in Week one, and now he'd be back being Burrow.

913
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: You know, But there's hindsight there. I I'm not saying.

914
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 2: If I was in charge of the Bengals, I ought

915
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: to tell Joe that, you know you're going on I

916
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: R you can't play week one. But it was the

917
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: wrong decision and paying for it. So Browns. I do

918
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 2: think their defense is elite.

919
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a really good defense.

920
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's great. I don't think their running game

921
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: will ever be the same, No, I mean, because Chubb's

922
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: a special player too. I mean, I don't use the

923
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: word elite much, but he is. And the Fords of

924
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: the world and all that are fine. And you watch

925
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: the game. I mean, they weren't gonna let the Browns

926
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: beat him with a run, now, you know, I mean

927
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: not with Watson not in the game. So in a

928
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: different way, as we've known from the day they made

929
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: the crazy trade, they're very Watson dependent. I don't know

930
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: who I trust more at this stage, Watson or Borrow.

931
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: They're two different avenues, you know what I mean. I

932
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: don't know if Watson's good. I know Burrow is, but

933
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: can he be I don't know.

934
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: Well, here's what they've got this week.

935
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: They got coming up.

936
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: They get to buy which.

937
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: Is probably oh they would by this way. Yeah, so

938
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: that's great for Watson coming out of their buy back.

939
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: After that they also play the forty nine ers coming

940
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: out of their body. They really Yeah, So October fifty

941
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: at some point, forty nine Ers at Brown's. Then you

942
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: got Browns at Colts, Browns at Seahawks, Cardinals at Browns,

943
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: Browns at Ravens, Steelers at Browns, Browns at Broncos, Browns

944
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: at Rams, Jaguars at Brown's, Airs at Browns, Browns at Texans,

945
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: Jets at Browns, and Browns at Bengal.

946
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: It's not that bad their schedules.

947
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: But here's the problem. You just lost that game. So

948
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: you assume, I mean, let's assume the forty nine Ers

949
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: are going to beat the Browns. Yeah, they'll be fair,

950
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: so that will put you at two and three. You

951
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: just saw the Colts go into Baltimore and beat the

952
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: beat the Ravens. They're a tough, tough they're they're easy

953
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: to plays. Although that defense should get Brown's at Seahawks.

954
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: That's a that's a trip of Steelers still have to

955
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: make as well.

956
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: That looks like a lot.

957
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: That's a that's a game everybody's well, the Steelers lost

958
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: that one probably, so it's not gonna ben easy game.

959
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: You know Cleveland, Cleveland's and Seattle. You said, yeah.

960
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: My point being is, I don't think. I don't see

961
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: anybody running away with this division.

962
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: I don't either. What's Baltimore have after the Steelers though,

963
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: because I mean, obviously they haven't plague up on everybody.

964
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: The Ravens haven't played any of their tough games.

965
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 2: No they haven't. But we thought since you would be

966
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: a tough game and it wasn't. Yeah, you know.

967
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so the Ravens have Steelers this week, then they

968
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: have to play the Titans. Remember that's the London game.

969
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: They're going to London after playing the Steelers.

970
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, the Titans are good, but that's a

971
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: beat you up game.

972
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: That's a beat you up game.

973
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: Then you don't care who they're playing after. I don't know.

974
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: If I'm not saying they'll lose the Titans, I don't

975
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: think they will. Whoever the next game is, I would

976
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: I want to bet against the raven.

977
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: I looked this stet up a couple of years ago

978
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: and I went back through the years post Steelers Ravens games.

979
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: That's brutal.

980
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Steelers were about a five hundred team the

981
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: next week after the week after playing the Ravens.

982
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: Although against all the against everybody else, ye better than that.

983
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: The Ravens were actually sub five hundred the week after

984
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: playing the Steelers, like they beat the crap out of eat.

985
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: You remember the Niners are that team too, Yeah, that

986
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: everyone loses the game after playing the Niners.

987
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: Well, this version of nine, this was this was going

988
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: back a decade, you know. Yeah, So Ravens Ravens versus

989
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: Tight in London. Then they come back home and they

990
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: play the Lions.

991
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: See I think that game is awful for them not

992
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: having a bye after going overseas and playing against Jeffrey

993
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: Simmons and Henry I don't think.

994
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: Then you still don't have your buy and you got

995
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: to go Ravens. Ravens are at the Cardinals. So that's

996
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: three out of four games on the road. And oh,

997
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: by the way, one of those games was in London.

998
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 2: London Arizona's a far replace. I know you're not making

999
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: that flight directly. I mean that's a long way the

1000
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: opposite ends of the planet.

1001
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: Then you get the Seahawks at Ravens. Okay, Browns at

1002
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: Ravens on November twelfth, November sixteenth on the short week,

1003
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: Bengals at Ravens. That's a lot of games in a

1004
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: short like.

1005
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll pack them.

1006
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: And then they I think they finally get their bye,

1007
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: they get a I think it's a mini buy there.

1008
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: Their bye week might be must be mixed in there.

1009
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: And you got Ravens at Chargers. Ravens are the Rams

1010
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: at the Ravens, Ravens at Jaguars, Ravens at forty nine Ers,

1011
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: Dolphins at Ravens.

1012
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: I think their end of season to really.

1013
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: Bad, and then Steelers at Ravens.

1014
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: Like Dolphins and Niners late.

1015
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: They better build somem and they.

1016
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: Have, they've they've gotten.

1017
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: These three wins early. But this leads me down the road.

1018
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: If the Steelers can somehow figure out a way to

1019
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: win this game Sunday.

1020
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're They're fine. So I'm gonna say this

1021
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: all week because I don't want to talk out both

1022
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: sides of my mouth is I said it's Sunday night

1023
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: on a podcast. As the week goes on, I am

1024
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 2: not going to talk myself into well, they'll they'll find

1025
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: a way to squeak this game out and everything will

1026
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: be rosy and unicorns will fall from the sky and

1027
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 2: black and gold forever. They have big problems.

1028
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: They have problems.

1029
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: But I've been saying also all week their situation Steelers

1030
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: is much better than their tape.

1031
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: You know, this isn't a situation like last year at

1032
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: the buy when you were two and six. No, you're

1033
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: two and two. You're two and two. The Ravens are

1034
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: a game ahead of you right now, and you play

1035
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: them on Sunday.

1036
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: Now, a loss would hurt your back.

1037
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: You have to win the game, of course, and you have.

1038
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: To play a thousand times better than you did on something.

1039
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: You have to play much better than you did on Sunday.

1040
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: But if any team over the years has gotten the

1041
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: attention to the Steelers to pull them back into well,

1042
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: hey there's focus, it's the Baltimore Ravens.

1043
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: I wonder, and I'm not excusing it, folks, don't. Don't

1044
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: just wash it away, Matt. What's their record the game

1045
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: before the Ravens. I bet it's bad.

1046
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:29,959
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at that one up.

1047
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: That it seems look ahead. I mean, I'm not saying

1048
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: they took the Texans lightly and that's okay, blah blah blah.

1049
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: But there is a human nature to it of the

1050
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: look ahead games. You know, those what they call them,

1051
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: those trap games. Yeah, it's not okay. They shouldn't have

1052
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: lost by a million.

1053
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: It's it's not okay. And there were some other extenuating

1054
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: circumstances there like the plane ride. Yeah, stuff, But it

1055
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: is what it is. You lost the football game.

1056
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 2: Nobody cares why.

1057
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: That's no. But again, Mike Tomlin talking about improving the physicality,

1058
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: usually when when head coaches say we're going to do this,

1059
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: we're going to do that, that stuff gets done.

1060
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: Oh sure, it's job number one. It's the top of

1061
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: the agenda now, is okay. I know I can't fix

1062
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: everything in a week. I mean people think a week's

1063
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: a long time. It's a millisecond. So we're going to

1064
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: go back to our roots and be physical.

1065
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to challenge you to be physical. I expect

1066
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: them to be physical this week against the Baltimore Ravens.

1067
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if they get pushed around. Yeah, if

1068
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: they get beat that absolutely could happen. If they get

1069
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: out played, that absolutely could happen. I mean, they have

1070
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: a lot of problems right now, but I don't think

1071
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: effort will be.

1072
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: One of them. I just know that in this division,

1073
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: in which at this point right now, nobody looks head

1074
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: and we thought going into the season, the Bengals will

1075
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: be head and shoulders above everybody else. Yeah, that is

1076
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: not the case. It's not in this division where everybody

1077
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: finished three and three against the other teams last year,

1078
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: all four teams for three and three within the division.

1079
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: I would not I would almost I don't know. If

1080
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: I put money down on everybody finishing three and three

1081
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: agains this this year and splitting across the board.

1082
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Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't now because if we were doing Ravens

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00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: Nation Radio, I'd be like, we get this win. We

1084
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: got all three of the road games in our back pocket.

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Speaker 2: What's the chance of us going h and three at

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Speaker 2: home against the brownie Steelers and Bengals, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? Although all those teams might be much different

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00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: when you host them. That's the key, that's that's a

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Speaker 2: huge game for them.

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Speaker 1: This is a huge game for them.

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Speaker 2: Get this win. They're Kings of the North right now.

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Speaker 2: They really have a thought.

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Speaker 1: They've were Kings in the North last year at the

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Speaker 1: break and Lamar got hurt. The year before that, they

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00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 1: were eight and two or whatever they were, and Lamar

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00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: got hurt because they are so Lamar centric.

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Speaker 2: And he has been really really good. Yeah, but yeah,

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00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: they're gonna have their share of bad stuff too. They

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00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: already have their injuries.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see any team as poorly as the

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Speaker 1: Steelers have played, and it's again, it's been very uneven.

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Speaker 1: None of the other teams in the division have blown

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Speaker 1: me away with how they're playing.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was about to say, too, is It's

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Speaker 2: not like I can't think of a team that is

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Speaker 2: far exceed Maybe Miami, I know they just lost that

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Speaker 2: far exceeded my preseason expectations.

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Speaker 1: I mean, right now, you can look at Detroit and

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Speaker 1: say Detroit's I was thinking about Detroit's gonna win that division.

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Speaker 1: It's over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like someone in the division that or in the

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Speaker 2: league that would happen to be in your division. There was, Wow,

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Speaker 2: they're better than I thought. They're really good. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: win this division. Yea. You know, the Bills I thought

1115
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Speaker 2: was gonna be good. The Niners I thought were gonna

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Speaker 2: be good. You know. The Miami and Detroit were the

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Speaker 2: two I kind of thought of, is, Wow, they're I

1118
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Speaker 2: thought to be a good team. Maybe they're a great team.

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Speaker 2: I don't see that with anything.

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Speaker 1: I don't see that with any of the four teams.

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Speaker 1: I don't think any of them are great. I don't

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Speaker 1: think as as I thought at the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 1: I picked Cincinnati. They go to the super Bowl, for

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Speaker 1: God's sakes, Yeah you did. They They're not that team

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh They're far from it. They're a top.

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Speaker 1: Right now. The way they are playing. They're the worst

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Speaker 1: team in the division.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that. They've had the worst season. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and their game last week wasn't any better than the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: It was worse.

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Speaker 2: It was worse. I mean, it's they're really in a

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Speaker 2: bad shape. They better excuses, you know, but doesn't nobody cares.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a better excuse. I don't know if

1135
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: there's multiple excuses. There's one excuse for this, and the

1136
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: quarterback's not playing. It doesn't excuse why their defense is

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00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: no you know, now getting run on the defense good

1138
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Speaker 1: sometimes not last week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just now Higgins is out. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: I think, I mean, he's broken ribs. I think he's

1141
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 2: gonna be out for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He would think. But that's interesting. Uh, we'll keep an

1143
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: eye on this. Maybe we'll take come back and take

1144
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: a look at the day.

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Speaker 2: Should be a lot different, folks in two months, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Four weeks from now, when we come back to look

1147
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: at this again at the midway point of the season,

1148
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Speaker 1: we may have a better We may say, oh, the

1149
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: Ravens are clearly the best team in the division.

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Speaker 2: We might we might be like, boy, the Steelers might

1151
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: pick in the top three, you know, or Wold Steelers

1152
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: won six out of the last eight, or the Bengals

1153
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: Burrows CAF never got better.

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Speaker 1: They never got better, or you know they turned it

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Speaker 1: around after the buy they go into they beat the

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 2: One of those lines we just spilled out is on

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00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 2: the horizon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which one is? We don't know anyways, he is

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lallie. You're listening to the

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Speaker 1: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, it's time for the Fantasy Football Focus.

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Speaker 1: We'll do that right after this