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Speaker 2: Tony Kasaik is walking away what to set the ugly

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Speaker 3: In On the inside, We'll.

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Speaker 4: Interview insiders and other titans of all types of industry,

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Speaker 3: This is another episode.

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Speaker 5: Of the Inside of Show.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one's Financial Fridays with

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Speaker 6: the inside investor Tony k We're the world's number one

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Speaker 6: source for everything cannabis.

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Speaker 7: Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one, the world's number

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Speaker 3: Monday's Blue.

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Speaker 7: Alongside of it is mister Joe Grande and Tony Kasai

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Speaker 7: and you are now tuned into Financial Friday.

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Speaker 3: That's Rights Talk one.

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Speaker 2: I wants Financial Friday with our guru, mister Tony Cable.

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Speaker 2: the number one Christopher Wright. If you can find Tony

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Speaker 2: Joe Grande fifty two. And now you guys were created

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Speaker 2: financial Fridays to make your money game right and tight, folks.

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Speaker 5: After twenty years.

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Speaker 2: Of being a Wall Street insider, my dude Tony k

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Speaker 2: got sick and tired of watching the little guy get

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Speaker 5: He ain't no punk, he said, I'm done with this.

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Speaker 2: Now that he has left Wall Street, he wants to

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Speaker 2: share with everybody his experienced strength and hope and give

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Speaker 2: you the stories to inspire you from some of Tony's

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Speaker 2: closest friends he has met on his journey. Now, if

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Speaker 2: y'all heard Tony speak around the globe, you understand that

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Speaker 2: his number one rule of money is that your health

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Speaker 2: is your wealth, and you can't truly be wealthy if

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Speaker 8: Folks.

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Speaker 2: That's why we send all our friends to our man,

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Speaker 2: doctor Chalmers.

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Speaker 5: If you don't know who.

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Speaker 2: He is, he's the doctor that other docs send their

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Speaker 2: patience too, and they can't fix the issue.

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Speaker 5: At Chalmers Wellness, they work with patients.

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Speaker 2: Even Teddy's barking about him because he knows he's the

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Speaker 2: guy to go to to identify, treat, and manage a

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Speaker 2: wide variety of issues, including weight loss, digestive problems, chronic fatigue,

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Speaker 2: and addiction treatment alternatives, which we're going to be talking

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Speaker 2: about some addiction today on this show. You guys out

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Speaker 2: to believe you guys don't need to sleep on Doctor Chalmers.

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Speaker 2: Check out his ted talk where he's talking about using

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Speaker 2: cannabis to deal with.

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Speaker 5: Pain and opioids.

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Speaker 2: For more information, check out his website Chalmerswellness dot com.

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Speaker 2: Or call him direct and tell him we sent you

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Speaker 2: to do who let the Dogs Out? Call him director

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Speaker 2: two one four four four six five three zero zero Teddy,

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Speaker 2: you got Teddy's corner. You're supposed to be barking on

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Speaker 2: the command when I do that now. Joining us today

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Speaker 2: on the episode of Financial Fridays is a multi platinum

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Speaker 5: Tommy Vex.

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Speaker 2: You guys, not only that it looks like he pushes

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Speaker 2: Mad Max, who is miss WBF Bikini World twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: I can't wait to take her out on this date.

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Speaker 5: But no, that's a side note.

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Speaker 2: You guys are not going to talk about that too much.

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Speaker 2: But my man Tommy Becks a worldwide known dude. If

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Speaker 2: tomorrow leads this rock icon. Be sure to check him

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Speaker 2: out on ig at the Lone Wolfgang if it's not

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Speaker 3: The new one is Tommy Beck's two point.

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Speaker 5: Oho oh cold on a second, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: TV for the Internet, Tony Tommy t O M M

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Speaker 2: This is how crazy this dude is that we just

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Speaker 2: got the new one. Tommy Beck's Official. The website still up,

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Speaker 2: the website still kicking, folks. So Tommy Veck's Official like

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Speaker 2: for more merch tours and everything new in Tommy's world.

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Speaker 2: Without further ado, just give it up for Tommy Beck's

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Speaker 2: financial Fridays. I can't wait to get you into everything

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Speaker 2: that you do. But how did you meet Tony? First off?

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Speaker 3: Oh, we met through Steve Kuklo, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were both scheduled to speak together and then

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Speaker 3: comes straight from Costa Rica. I turned fourteen years sober. Congratulations,

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Speaker 2: We're both on the same road brother, as we shared

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so yeah, So I celebrated in Costa Rica

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Speaker 2: No, he's good because you know, the short people are

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Speaker 2: I mean you've been speaking, you do that? What's the

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Speaker 7: And you know, everybody loved It's Coming Back.

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Speaker 3: About, you know, some of the where it came from.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you went from being an artist, right and

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Speaker 3: Frankie Bones at the time, rank Bone. Yeah, I've seen

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Speaker 10: Wow, I know, Franky Bones. Yeah, number my phone right now.

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Speaker 10: That's what's up, all right, Yeah yeah, I'll take you

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Speaker 10: up on that. But yeah, so so, so like that

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Speaker 3: No, it was almost because I couldn't manage my finances.

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Speaker 3: My addiction had sucked up every cent, like everything I

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Speaker 3: And uh yeah, he was sober. He's sober now twenty

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Speaker 5: Meeting one day.

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Speaker 3: That was May eighteen, two thousand and nine, and I

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Speaker 3: like that's like not even my sobriety story is crazier

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Speaker 8: Listen to this, Tommy Decks.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate you being so vulnerable and sharing that with us.

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Speaker 7: Cannabis Talk one on one Financial Fridays. When we come back,

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Speaker 7: I want to hear the success stories right back.

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Speaker 6: We'll be right back with the Financial Friday five on

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Speaker 6: Cannabis Talk one on one's Financial Fridays with the Insider

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Speaker 6: Investor Tony K. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on

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Speaker 6: ones Financial Fridays with the Insider Investor Tony K. It's

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Speaker 6: now time for the Financial Friday five.

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Speaker 2: You guys, I want to remind you about the Bear

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Speaker 2: Flat group, but your white label partners are known to

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Speaker 5: They're so nice and great. There you guys.

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Speaker 2: flaggroup dot com. Tommy Vex, what a story dog, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Lord knows, I've heard stories like this in the rooms

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 5: We were sharing off there. We go to some of

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Speaker 5: the same meetings in Santa Monica, which is even more crazy.

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Speaker 8: That's the first meeting that you.

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Speaker 2: Went to that I bring up going where was that

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Speaker 2: one meeting that's upstairs? And he has a tattooed on

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Speaker 2: his fast and it's the meeting that I brought up, Like,

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Speaker 2: I went to this men's stag in Santa Monica.

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Speaker 5: I forgot the name of it. He goes this one and.

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Speaker 3: He has his dog Bramo Company. Yeah, I mean, and.

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Speaker 5: It's one of those great men's stags.

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Speaker 2: If you're in the West Side, you know what we're

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Speaker 2: game like we are, you know, you know where the

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Speaker 2: good meat and potatoes are of this program. So that

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Speaker 2: being said, we have a wild ride there on your addiction.

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Speaker 2: Now talk about this other side that Tony says ends

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Speaker 2: up with the death side, and.

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Speaker 5: You're still alive, so please continue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so so yeah, so we left off. You know,

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Speaker 3: Association put me through their program. They gave me a scholarship,

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Speaker 3: of the Music Cares Foundation.

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Speaker 2: So few Music Cares is so dope. They have a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're great. Sharen took really good care of me,

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Speaker 3: and I've sent people to her over the last fourteen years.

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00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh this so you call, you know, and

436
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 3: so you know, I'm one of their success stories, one

437
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 3: of the many. You know, they really helped turn people's

438
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 3: lives around them. You know, addiction is something that affects

439
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 3: millions and millions of people. But we've seen so many artists,

440
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 3: whether whatever kind of creative fast they are, We've lost

441
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 3: so many people, whether it's actors or musicians or you know,

442
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 3: whatever kind of art. Very sensitive people, and it really

443
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 3: takes us down a road where some of us don't

444
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 3: get to come back. So I'm very grateful for them

445
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 3: and the work that they do. And yeah, and I

446
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 3: wound up getting a year sober. So I got a

447
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: regular job. I got a year sober, and then I

448
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 3: decided to move back to New York City to make

449
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 3: a living, amends my mother and my sister and rebuild

450
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 3: our relationship because you know, I wasn't present, and my

451
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 3: mom's father was an alcoholic. She married an alcoholic. She

452
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 3: adopted two kids that turned out to have you know,

453
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 3: we had fetal alcohol syndrome most likely. And yeah, and

454
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 3: I moved back to New York City and I didn't

455
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 3: know what to do. And I went to meeting and

456
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm moving. I don't know, and people

457
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 3: gave me numbers. I called guys. I met people in

458
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 3: New York. I went to meetings there. I was like,

459
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 3: all right, I'm safe. Got a job. You know, Chris

460
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 3: Santos from the Food Network. He hooked me up with

461
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 3: a job as a bouncer. And I was like, all right,

462
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 3: we're gonna be okay. And then on September twentieth of

463
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 3: two thousand and ten, so I was about it was

464
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 3: a little less than a year and a half sober.

465
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: My twin brother was on a bender and he had

466
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 3: broken into my apartment and I came home to a

467
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: robbery in progress, and you know, we had words, and

468
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 3: he went to my neighbor's garage, and my neighbor was

469
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 3: a mechanic, and he took a big crowbar and hid

470
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 3: in the bushes and when I went out to look,

471
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 3: he cracked me in the back of the head, broke

472
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 3: my skull, beat me, broke my arm, beat me until

473
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: my spleen ruptured. And then you know, I had to

474
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: go to the hospital. I was rushing to the r

475
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 3: and you know, it was pretty crazy. I wound up

476
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: bleeding to death in the r and my you know,

477
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: my mom showed up, my sister was there, and my

478
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: friend and like it's it's one of those you know,

479
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 3: you talk about powerlessness and and victimhood, right, Like a

480
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 3: lot of this is a weird trend of people trying

481
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 3: to It's like victimhood Olympics. These days. I feel like

482
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: a lot of people are trying to compete with themselves

483
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: about who's the most oppressed or who's the most offended

484
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: or who's the most upset. But when you've when someone

485
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: else takes your life away, and all you can say

486
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: is God, please not today. You never want to be

487
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: a victim of her again. And so you know, I

488
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 3: had this experience and then I slipped away, you know,

489
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 3: and I I my mom watched held my hand and

490
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: watched her son to die. Yeah, because yeah, and because

491
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: of her other son, her sick son, you know, And

492
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: so I had at.

493
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 8: The time to day they arrest him or how was that?

494
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 3: I mean, that happened, that all happened, that took another year,

495
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 3: because you know that's yeah. So so I wound up,

496
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: you know, I wound up having Indian death experience. I

497
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: saw God, I like crossed over. And I don't know

498
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: anything about this, right, I've never researched it. I've never

499
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 3: seen a movie about it. All I know is what

500
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 3: happened to me. And you know, I talk about it

501
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 3: at length in my in my book that's coming out

502
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 3: next year, and we shared a little bit with this

503
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: because yeah, yeah, I mean.

504
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 9: Well about what you like, what you've seen.

505
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: I mean, well, I I we've talked about this, and

506
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 3: I passed through like this kind of kaleidoscope of color,

507
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: which I think was the Van Allen Belt, right, the

508
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 3: the the belt that goes around the planet. Because I

509
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: left the atmosphere like real fast, like it's an inexplicable force,

510
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 3: and I passed through the kind of kaleidoscope, and I

511
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 3: came to this white place and then the creator it

512
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: it's not a person, it's much more beyond. It's not

513
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 3: a man in the clouds with a white beard.

514
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 9: I love the way you described it last night. You

515
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 9: said it's like he's exploded and a little piece of

516
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 9: him as in everybody that's described it last night.

517
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's what That's what life is. I

518
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: think that that's how God experiences reality on this planet.

519
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 3: And and like the nature of life is by putting

520
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: fragments of itself in each of us, so all of

521
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 3: our souls are actually connected to this one big source

522
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 3: of this magnificent, all being, all loving entity. And this

523
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 3: is the most amount of love I could I've ever

524
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: felt in my entire life. I was so I was

525
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: super calm, and I started to remember who I was,

526
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 3: and then my life on Earth was a dream. It

527
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: was so fast, it was like I took a nap,

528
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: and my soul has been around for thousands and thousands

529
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: of years, and I had all these memories of all

530
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: the eternal secrets of the universe, and then you know,

531
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 3: I I and then I entered into another place and

532
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: there were all these other beings made of white light,

533
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: like celestial beings, and I knew them and they and

534
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 3: they welcomed me back, and it was like we were

535
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: all laughing, sort of like I forgot I was me, right,

536
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: I forgot that I was a person and I lived

537
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: on the planet and all that my entire identity nothing,

538
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: there's no there's no race in the Kingdom of God.

539
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: There's no gender, there's no nothing. There's just our. Your

540
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: soul is your is your pure essence of God consciousness

541
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: and where And I'm interacting with these other beings from

542
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 3: my I guess soul family is the best way to

543
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: describe it. And one of them was like, oh, like,

544
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 3: you don't have to stay now. And then I said,

545
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: and I remember saying, oh, I'm not done, because I

546
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: had a contract. So I had made an agreement to

547
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 3: be incarnated and do a task, but I can't remember.

548
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: And then I fell from wherever I was back back

549
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: through the atmosphere and into the hospital bed, in the er,

550
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: in the in the non emergency room. In those I

551
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: see you and I remember being above my body and

552
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: going into my body and it felt like somebody. You know,

553
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 3: what if you have siblings or a cousin or you know,

554
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: when they hold you under water and the pool and

555
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: they're being assholes and then you're like, oh, I can't

556
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: breathe and they finally let you up. I sat up,

557
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm like broken arm heads in the

558
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 3: camp like I'm jacked up. There's a tube in every hole,

559
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: and I'm like like, you know, wake up, my sit up.

560
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: And my nurse was my girlfriend from high school's best friend, Jesse,

561
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: just randomly and uh, she was crying and she was like,

562
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: welcome back. He died and I was like I remember thinking.

563
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, am I dead? And I'm like

564
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: why is Jesse here? I was like did they? And

565
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I'm stuck in my body. I'm

566
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: supposed to go back up. And then uh, and this

567
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: guy came in the room and he's like, hey, man,

568
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 3: are you telling me? I was like yeah. He's like, oh,

569
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: my name is George. He's like, I'm from the program.

570
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: It's like what I was, like, how did you find me?

571
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: And so when I was being rushed to the hospital,

572
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 3: I didn't remember this because I was it was I

573
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 3: was traumatized. But on the way to the hospital, I

574
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: called the guy who got me sober and I knew

575
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: I was dying and I wanted to tell him I

576
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: loved him. Oh, and he called his friend in New York,

577
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: and that guy who didn't know me found me in

578
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: the hospital, out of all the hospitals in New York,

579
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: and then fucking sat outside my room till I woke up.

580
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: And so he like went back to work and then

581
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: came back to like that's what he did. That was

582
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: his service. And then they brought meeting to me every

583
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: single day in the hospital till I could walk again. Wow.

584
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, Can I tell you guys how powerful the story?

585
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 9: So I saw him give this from stage the first time,

586
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 9: the only time I've heard him, and I'm kind of

587
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 9: tearing up telling that. Yeah, but he had so many

588
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 9: people at the edge of their states. However, he had

589
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 9: his fucking fly. Yeah, I here star ahead him, Like, Bro,

590
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 9: how do I tell this guy that is jump taken out.

591
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 5: You've always been.

592
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: But that's God though, That's the whole Like, that's the

593
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: comedy of the universe.

594
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 9: Him that he was like, Oh, I wish somebody told me.

595
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: I was like, and then this happened. I was like,

596
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 3: and my fly's been down the whole time. The whole

597
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: whole crowd was like.

598
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 9: We went from tears to laughter.

599
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's just so great to hear the power

600
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: of the program because, you know, as we were talking

601
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: off their sharing a little bit, I mean, you know,

602
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: me being sober twenty five years, I've seen it, done it.

603
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: I've gone to hospitals as well and done service like

604
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: that for random folks.

605
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 5: And there's just nothing better. If everyone anybody's listening and thinking.

606
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: As he's mentioning the program, I just feel like saying, like,

607
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: that's what it's about, man, That that program for so

608
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: many people that I've seen in my years of sobriety,

609
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: the countless acts of giving for no reason and showing

610
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: up on a twelve step call or showing up on

611
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: a urgent call, is what it's been about. And uh,

612
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 2: I just commend the that dude your sponsor.

613
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 5: And that dude and dude George B. George B.

614
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: Big shout out to George B.

615
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 5: Is he still sober?

616
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 8: Yeah?

617
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: You know what's no, No, he's a white dude. You

618
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: know what's crazy to.

619
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: Go to meetings in New York, which is crazy because

620
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: now that there's zooms, you're always in New York.

621
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: If you go to PAX, that's where that's just me,

622
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: that's his game. Yeah, but he he It's what's crazy

623
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: is that I went through this whole process and then

624
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: you know, I had to I couldn't go home because

625
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: my brother was on the LAMB and they wanted me

626
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: to you know, obviously they wanted me to press charges.

627
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: I got hit with like a three hundred thousand dollars

628
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: hospital bill I couldn't pay. And then the detectives brought

629
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: me all these things that my brother had been beating

630
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: my mom while I was living in California, and she

631
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: didn't tell anybody. She's alan basically all kinds of crazy. Yeah,

632
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: And so I was like, I have to cooperate with authorities,

633
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: which is completely against what I grew up there. And

634
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: so you know, me and my friend me and Brooke

635
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: me as dad is is Steven Tyler from Aerosmith. She

636
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: called her dad and was like, hey, Tommy is jacked up, Like,

637
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: can can I bring him home? So she drove from

638
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: Massachusetts to you know Cedar sin my hospital, Cedar Signing,

639
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: That's la what hospital was? I in Cornell University in

640
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: Midtown And she picked me up and then took me

641
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: to her dance and they took care of me. And

642
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: I was afraid to relapse because I'd been sober and

643
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: I knew all the stories from the old timers about

644
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: them having surgery and taking hills.

645
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, pills, So.

646
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 5: Dude, this is crazy.

647
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: So I gave her my pills and my sponsor's number,

648
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: and like literally she had to administer my meds to me,

649
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: you know, and then eventually, you know, it's like I

650
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: went through that whole process not knowing. And then a

651
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: year later, George's mom passed away from cancer, and you know,

652
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: we were around for the whole process. But then you know,

653
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: he called me and was like, hey, he's like, I'm

654
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: here cleaning out my mom's place and she's been hoarding

655
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: oxy conton. I was like, oh, I'll be right there.

656
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: So like, because we don't go, you don't go alone, right,

657
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: So we went there and like, you know, we threw

658
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: out everything, and I've had to do that a couple

659
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: of times, Like I've had I had a guy who

660
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: I sponsored in LA and his dad was a he

661
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: was pretty high up in a biker game. He was

662
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: on a bad run and the son was my sponsor,

663
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: and he was like, you gotta help my dad and

664
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: I can't, and you know, he's you know, no, I'm

665
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: not going to say who it is, but he's okay

666
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: now he's sober. But it was like I had to

667
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: go to the father's house and like if any cops

668
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: would have showed up, I'd be done. My whole life

669
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: will be over. There was everything, like every kind of everything.

670
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: I'm throwing out math and syringes, and like, you know,

671
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: he the son came in and like the dad had

672
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 3: a drug room with pictures of all of his kids,

673
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: like some weird like shame like he would get high

674
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: and be ashamed of Like I don't know what was

675
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: going on there, but you know, we do weird things

676
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: in our addiction. And there's guns and like bricks of cash,

677
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know, I'm like Jesus, you know,

678
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: So we cleaned everything up, threw everything that he could

679
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: get in trouble away for no. We brought it to him.

680
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: We brought it to his girlfriend, so he was in rehab.

681
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: I'm so we brought it to his girlfriend's house and

682
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: a sponsor came to work. Here's this Like there.

683
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 8: You go, yeah, take this, We'll take that.

684
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: You guys are this but it's that. But it's like,

685
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: that's that's the stuff that you know, that's what the

686
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 3: that's what the that's the thing.

687
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 9: You know it's and it's it's uh stories like this.

688
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 9: Joe is kind of busting my balls like he rarely does.

689
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 9: And when they didn't know who you were and who

690
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 9: I was bringing on, you know, I hadn't mentioned your name,

691
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 9: and he says, what's this person going to do with

692
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 9: financial Fridays? Because you know, this is the whole premise

693
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 9: And this is what I like talking about why I

694
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 9: love this platform because we talk about your health being

695
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 9: your wealth, but your story. You know, all the money

696
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 9: in the world couldn't take back or save you when

697
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 9: you were on that death bed. All the money in

698
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 9: the world isn't worth it if you're if you're living

699
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 9: just this depressed, just this dark, empty place that I

700
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 9: you know, you and I have shared many many talks

701
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 9: on but I think people listening at home, it's like

702
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 9: you look at somebody that's traveled the world on the surface,

703
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 9: had everything, but inside you've shared with me like tea,

704
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 9: Like I was in a place where I just didn't

705
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 9: care about anything.

706
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, the money, money is.

707
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: A tool, right, It's not, it's just it's it's it.

708
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: The more that you make, the more you can help. Right.

709
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: But also you're you're you're it enables you. So whatever

710
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: spiritual place you're in, the more money you make, you're

711
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: gonna do more of the thing that you're at that

712
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: spiritual level to do. And a lot of people who

713
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: gets understand that. You know, I've had emotional relapses in

714
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: my success, right, and so you know I'll get to like,

715
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: you know, the story with my brother. Eventually the FEDS

716
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: caught him and I had to testify against him, and

717
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: I was in the witness protection program because he had

718
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: he put a contract on me. So for eleven months

719
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 3: I was hopping around, going to meetings, sleeping on guys

720
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: couches in California and Florida, homeless, two years sober, dang,

721
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: you know, and it's like and like, but I was committed.

722
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: You know, my sponsor, you know, he you know, I'll

723
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, you know, it's just God doesn't give

724
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 3: you anything that you can't handle. And he said, no,

725
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: God doesn't give you anything God can't handle.

726
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 9: His brother is calling him from prison, Oh yeah, telling

727
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 9: me he's gonna kill me, and he's on the other

728
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 9: line with the DA, and the DA is trying to

729
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 9: convince him like, hey, we may he may be getting

730
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 9: out too. And he's like, well, he's on the line

731
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 9: threatened and killed me and my mom. Guy says, we'll

732
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 9: merge him in. So he merges the brother and and

733
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 9: I'm you know, with the DA listening. Basically that's how

734
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 9: the brother gets locked up for twenty five years from

735
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 9: that going on. He's still in prison right now, right

736
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 9: if I'm not mistaken to.

737
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: You, Yeah, yeah, he's still locked up. And so he

738
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: has he changed now, he still sends my mom stops

739
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: speaking to him. My mom's in therapy and like my

740
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 3: mom basically enrolled into alan On, which is a support

741
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: group for people who are falling.

742
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 5: Big Brother program winner.

743
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: Folks, if you're listening, going what is elen On, Well,

744
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: it's what you either a go to because your spouse

745
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: is are your kids are partying too hard? But if

746
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: you've been sober for a while, then you start going

747
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: to alan on because you become a double winner and

748
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: just the graduate a class in my opinion, like yeah.

749
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: And it's a it's it's a it's been helpful. She's

750
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: helped a lot of women, she does a lot of

751
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: women's group. She she sponsors a lot of people. So

752
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: our family dynamic has changed because of the twelve steps.

753
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah all the time.

754
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: You know, I support you.

755
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 5: Got a program. Once you got a program, are you

756
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 5: doing it? It just changes everything.

757
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, so like you know, the the interesting thing

758
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: that I talked about on stage is I had all

759
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 3: these expectations that once the court case was over that

760
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: I was going to move all my life. So my

761
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 3: life was on hold for two and a half years

762
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 3: and then, but I never dealt with my emotions. Sure, right,

763
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: I was on survival mode. You know, I'm just like,

764
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 3: just do today. Just I was one day at timing

765
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: it because someone was gonna kill me, and that guy

766
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: wound up getting whacked and an unrelated you know.

767
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 9: With the contract.

768
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, God does listen. We don't have to do

769
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: these things. God takes care of it, you know, I mean,

770
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: And so I wound up becoming suicidal. I had survivors guilt.

771
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: I felt guilty that I sent my twin brother to jail.

772
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: I stopped going to meetings, I stopped talking to my therapist.

773
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: It didn't take long for me and I planned my

774
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: suicide and I didn't tell anybody, and I like put

775
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: my suit from work on my mom's spare bed with

776
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 3: a note, and I went down to the train station

777
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: to go jump. And I was in Brooklyn at the

778
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: junction on the above train platform because I my logic

779
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: was that I didn't want to get paralyzed, so I

780
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: wanted to make sure that if I if the train

781
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: didn't kill me, I'd fall and then I'd get hit

782
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: by a car or something, because I'm very morbid in

783
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 3: my disease, whether I'm sober or drunk or whatever. And

784
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: I got a I literally backed up to run across

785
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: the platform. I saw the train coming and I got

786
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: a phone call from a number I didn't know, and

787
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, I answered the phone and this kid

788
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: was on the other wine crying and he was like, Hey,

789
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 3: is this Tommy, And I'm like yeah, but I'm kind

790
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 3: of in the middle of something right now, like what's up?

791
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: He was? He said, I need help.

792
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 5: I'm like a twelve step call.

793
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: Oh, like where are you? He's like, oh, I'm by

794
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: I'm by Union Squares, like I overdosed and my friends

795
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: left me to die and I kicked you out like

796
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: a no police to go. He got my number. He

797
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 3: got my number from my singing teacher, Melissa Cross, who's

798
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: been sober for thirty something years. He was another singer

799
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: in a punk band that played at a club. I

800
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: was a door guy at Wow and we had had

801
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: one conversation two years ago and he never forgot that

802
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: I was sober, and then she gave him my number one. Right,

803
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 3: So I get on the train. The train is supposed

804
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 3: to kill me. I go meet him, take him to

805
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: a meeting, buy him a big book with my last

806
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 3: twenty bucks. I got there. Yeah, I'm like broke, Like

807
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 3: it's all everything shot, you know, And.

808
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 8: But you're sober at this time.

809
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're just still mentally mentally yeah yeah, And.

810
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: So I was like, I'll just kill myself tomorrow. Every

811
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: day I'm like I can't give up on this kid.

812
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: And so this is the thing that's like when people

813
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: think about when if you're if you're in your if

814
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 3: you're in if you're an active addict, and you're afraid

815
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: to ask for help, you might be saving our lives

816
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: by just asking for help. Because sometimes it's the compassion

817
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: and empathy for others that is stronger than my pride.

818
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 3: I'm too proud to ask for help. I still struggle

819
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: with that, but I will help somebody else and I'll

820
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: get it, and it gives me purpose. Right, our primary

821
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: purpose is to stay sober and help another alcoholics achieve sobriety.

822
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 3: And so this guy's now, like my brother Derek, he

823
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: becomes superstar sobriety. He's worth like forty million dollars. Now

824
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: he's a homeless like aeron addict, and then he like

825
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 3: became a stock market genius. He's got like years. So yeah,

826
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: he's doing great. I got a place in this. You know,

827
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: he's got a penthouse apartment in Miami. I got a

828
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 3: I got a room in there. Yeah, we go hang

829
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: out every you know, like once a year we'll get together.

830
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: And he's gotten he's flown out to Bravo. Oh yeah,

831
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: he he got five years and then came to the

832
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: meeting that I always talked about my home group in

833
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: Santa Monica because I wound up moving back to l A.

834
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: And I told the story about the train and I

835
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: never told him. And so you got all this room,

836
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: all these tough guys, and like everyone's crying, and I'm like,

837
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: and I was like, and the kid that called me

838
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 3: and we're like, you know. And I actually wrote a

839
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: song about it on my last record, call Strong for

840
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: someone Else. And I took my film crew on tour

841
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: to the train station. I almost jumped off with you myself.

842
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 3: And if you want to talk about a powerful video

843
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 3: and a powerful story about taking your power at it's

844
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 3: like God puts us through these things. You know, we

845
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 3: God will carry us through these things because we're meant

846
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 3: to make an example of it so that other people,

847
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: you know, no matter how far down the scale we

848
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: have gone, we will see how our experience will benefit others.

849
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 3: And it's not just alcoholics, it's everyone, right, because people

850
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: need hope, and hope is health, it's spiritual health, it's

851
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: mental health. And we're in a We've been in a

852
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: weird period the last couple of years where it seems

853
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: like everything we look at on the internet or on

854
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: the media, and everything seems to be hopeless, and there's

855
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: so much financial fear and so much health fear, and

856
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 3: like you know, the pandemic and all this, all this everything,

857
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: and all it's doing is lowering frequency, the frequency of humanity,

858
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: and we have to be bringing that up. And it's

859
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 3: each each of our individual responsibilities to actually defy the attack,

860
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: the spiritual attack on humanity by helping each other, by

861
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: just literally helping each other with no expectation in return.

862
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: And then the more that I do that, the better

863
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 3: I am.

864
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 11: Right.

865
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 3: When I get even, I get even worse.

866
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 9: Right, Tommy, I before we kind of tap into the

867
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 9: end of this, there's something that I think you guys,

868
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 9: you know, listening to Tommy, he doesn't seem very controversial, right,

869
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 9: But when we look at your music career right now,

870
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 9: there's an element that you started talking, you started being vocal,

871
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 9: through the COVID, through the pandemic, etc. Where you actually

872
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 9: got canceled. The music industry has changed. When you and

873
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 9: I met, you were like, tee, fuck it all, I'm

874
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 9: going to go to Africa. I don't care about the

875
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 9: music industry. And you were literally done with the industry.

876
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 9: Here we are six months ago, and now I'm looking

877
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 9: at you. We got some new chur dates in line.

878
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 9: What happened between then and now that you're kind of

879
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 9: dabbling back into the industry, Well, I.

880
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: Think what happened is is that I got away. So

881
00:43:55,520 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: during COVID, I started talking about medical things, right, that

882
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: was the first major issue. People were very afraid. A

883
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: buddy of mine is a very well respected, very high,

884
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: highly decorated not only military officer, but virologists and immunologists.

885
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: He recently passed away. So there was a lot of

886
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: information that I was given by people in the medical

887
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: community that was not in line with the narrative early on,

888
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 3: so I would kind of sprinkle this stuff out there,

889
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: and then I got in a lot of trouble, was

890
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: causing people to be very upset with me. Uh, And

891
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: then you know, and then I, like the whole world,

892
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: when the George Floyd thing happened, like I was devastated

893
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: just watching that. And then the riots came to LA

894
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: They destroyed downtown Santa Monica, where I got sober. I

895
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: organized a cleanup with a bunch of the people from

896
00:44:54,719 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: gold Gym, bodybuilders, fitness influencers, musicians, whatever, and nobody covered it.

897
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: There were thousands and thousands of volunteers cleaning up all

898
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: this mess, and I was like, this is so strange.

899
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: And then I talked to my buddy who was the lieutenant,

900
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: and they said most of the arrests were people from

901
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: out of the state, that they were bust in And

902
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: I was like, that's really weird. So then I started

903
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 3: investigating who owned the nonprofit BLM, and then it wasn't there.

904
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 3: It isn't a nonprofit. It was a corporation and it

905
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: was owned by all white people. And all these white

906
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: people were political heads. I'm not going to say I

907
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 3: named names, and I got in trouble for naming names.

908
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty, I learned my lesson when not gonna

909
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: say nobody's name. But these people basically pulled a massive

910
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 3: scam and they capitalized on the death of George Floyd

911
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: to make themselves almost ninety million dollars richer. And when

912
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: people come down on like Patrice and them, they were

913
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 3: only given a fraction of the money that was stolen.

914
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: None of the money went into the African American communities,

915
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: None of the money went to cleaning up Minneapolis. None

916
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: of the money went to George Floyd's department, his rant,

917
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 3: his apartment, like all that his car payments, like all

918
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: the things that were left in the wake were just whatever.

919
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: So you know, there's this a really evil component that's

920
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 3: been very pervasive with capitalizing off human tragedy through the media. Uh.

921
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 3: And then they use people and they discard them. And

922
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: I was vocally, very outspoken about that. That was another big,

923
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: huge issue. I did a video that went viral about it,

924
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: a mark or video explaining how the media and these

925
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: corporations work in unison to you know, put out a

926
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: story and they propaly yeah, yeah and so and so

927
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: that was very no, no no, And I'm in the

928
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: music industry and again like no, no, no, yeah, and so,

929
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: you know, we didn't get to the part of the

930
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: music industry. You know, after all that stuff happened, I

931
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: wound up. I became a sober coach, right, So I'm

932
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 3: just I'm going back to make making why this makes sense.

933
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: The reason why it mattered is because I had sold

934
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: I think we're at almost nine million records something at

935
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 3: this point from twenty eighteen, so it was a big deal.

936
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: I was playing arenas everywhere you know, I was a

937
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 3: sober coach for Justin Bieber. I wound up getting hired

938
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 3: by Five Finger Death Punch in twenty seventeen to you know,

939
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: be with Ivan and trying to just oversee he wound

940
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 3: up getting hospitalized and then the band was like, you

941
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: have to take over the tour. We can't cancel. So

942
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: I went from being a sober coach who was completely anonymous,

943
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 3: you know, with a career in music. I made my

944
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: own records. I did everything by myself. I know, I

945
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: was doing it on the side, like my music career

946
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 3: was over and I was being of service and God

947
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, now you're gonna go. And I'm like,

948
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: first show is in Vienna, Austria, for two hundred thousand

949
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: people and they're headlining, and I'm freaking out. I'm like,

950
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: oh my god. So we go from the hotel where

951
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: the Ritz Carlton and we go to the venue. We

952
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: drive to the fairgrounds and I go into catering and

953
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: who do I run into? Michael starf was stealing right.

954
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 3: He's like, what are you doing here? Dude? I was like,

955
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 3: and we've been friends for years because he's also he's

956
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 3: also sober and he's like, what are you doing here?

957
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm working for fucking your death one. She's like,

958
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 3: oh cool. I was like can we talk? He's like

959
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: are you good? I was like, I think we need

960
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: to have a meeting. So we grabbed a couple of

961
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 3: other people and like I'm like yeah. So I was like,

962
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 3: nobody knows this, but I'm singing tonight and they're like

963
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 3: holy shit, like you know. So we hare like praying

964
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: doing the Thursday and I'm like, okay, it's gonna be okay.

965
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: And so then I wound up. I did the I

966
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: did the rest of the tour every yeah. Yeah, So

967
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: it was so that was it, and every day we

968
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 3: were doing stuff like that. So I got famous overnight

969
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 3: and then at the twenty eighteen will tell me it

970
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: wasn't overnight and yeah, yeah, they said, you know, but

971
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: let me twenty year overnight success. Yeah. But let's look,

972
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: we gotta go to break.

973
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 7: But I'll get to man Tommy Best, I have Cannabis

974
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 7: Talk one on Financial Fridays.

975
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 3: We'll be right back o break.

976
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 6: We'll be right back with more Financial Fridays with the

977
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 6: inside investor Tony k. Make sure you follow Tony at

978
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 6: the Insider Investor. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk, one on

979
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 6: one's financial Fridays with the Inside Investor Tony k. Make

980
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,200
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981
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys seen the latest edition

982
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: of the Cannabis Talk magazine, but it's got so many

983
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,120
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984
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985
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986
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 5: If they don't have one, have them give us a cross.

987
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 5: Say yo, I need some.

988
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: Magazines over here twenty nineteen eighty and we'll send him

989
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:01,080
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990
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 3: You guys, I'll go.

991
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,840
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992
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,680
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993
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: Hell now twenty years later.

994
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just have me mouth drawn, going, oh, we're.

995
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: Not even there. It's not even there, so yeah wait

996
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 3: so so yeah, we're in We're in Vienna. So yeah,

997
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: so I do the whole tour. We do the whole tour.

998
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: I come back. The band asked me to move to

999
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 3: Vegas and then you know, I even comes out of rehab.

1000
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm sober doing the thing. They're like, we

1001
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 3: want you to we want you to come back out

1002
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: and travel with us as a fire extinguisher in cases emergency.

1003
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh man, like okay.

1004
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 5: So then I'm like, okay, sober companion. Now at this point,

1005
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 5: I just.

1006
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 3: I'm just on the bench. I'm just sitting on the

1007
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: bench in case there's a in case, yeah, in case

1008
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: there's an emergency.

1009
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1010
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, and then thank you know, by the grace

1011
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: of God everything, you know, I haven't just celebrated five years. Congratulations.

1012
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 3: You know that's the miracle happens. Don't quit before the

1013
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: miracle happens and wait for the magic to happen. Don't

1014
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 3: get to wait for the magic to happen. Yeah yeah,

1015
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 3: and uh so yeah. So I my rate for sober

1016
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: coaching after I did the the JB gig was pretty high,

1017
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: and so the band was like, listen, that's astronomical, Like

1018
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 3: what if we get what if we give your band

1019
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 3: a record deal? And I was like, well, I sing

1020
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: for two bands. I have like a side project and

1021
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: I have this other metal band. And then then a

1022
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: week later the metal band had kicked kicked me off

1023
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 3: all the social media because they thought I was going

1024
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: to be the permanent new guy. So they were trying

1025
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 3: to take over the assets even though they didn't play

1026
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 3: on any of the records. So I wound up selling

1027
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: them the name and then my side project, Bad Wolves

1028
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 3: we can the band that got signed, so you know,

1029
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 3: and and basically we turned in the record and the

1030
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 3: label was like, you guys don't have any radio songs

1031
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 3: on here, and I was like, well, I do I have?

1032
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: You know, I have, like I have a couple of

1033
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: producer guys I write with and I do stuff with.

1034
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: And I sent them a cover of Zombie by the

1035
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 3: Cranberries and the label was like, this is amazing. And

1036
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 3: Alan was Kovac, who owns better than was eleven seven.

1037
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: He manages Molly Crue and five Finger, and he was like,

1038
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 3: I managed Cranberry's in the height of their career. And

1039
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,959
Speaker 3: so I actually was in at Wembley Arena in UK

1040
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: and I met Dan Waite and he was really good

1041
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 3: friends with Dolores, and he asked if he could send

1042
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 3: it to her because the band, the band didn't play

1043
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: on it and they didn't want it on the record.

1044
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 9: They didn't even like it, right.

1045
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it was a cover and it was like

1046
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 3: they weren't a part of it, and nobody wants, you know,

1047
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:58,959
Speaker 3: by that.

1048
00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 5: Whole thing, like the whole cover.

1049
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they're metal guys.

1050
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 5: We're gonna have to get it signed off.

1051
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I was like, well, So I was like,

1052
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 3: if we can get her to sign off on it,

1053
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 3: then the band won't give me a hard time and

1054
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: we'll put it on the record and everyone will be happy.

1055
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: So she calls back and says, I want to sing

1056
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: on this. So I get home from Christmas, you know,

1057
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: I go to New York to see my mom for Christmas.

1058
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: I get a call from Dan and Dolores and they're like,

1059
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 3: oh yeah. So they're like, all right, we're gonna fly

1060
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 3: you to the studio in London and we're gonna do

1061
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: this thing. And so I send all the stems, like

1062
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 3: all the recording tracks like broken up and unmixed. For

1063
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: people who don't know, it's like yeah, you know, yeah

1064
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: so so yeah, and then uh I tell the band

1065
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: that she's going to sing. No one believes me. They're like, yeah, okay, bro.

1066
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: I was like, I've never lied to you, and every

1067
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 3: single time I tell you something, yeah, And I was like,

1068
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 3: every time I tell you, something's gonna happen. It happens,

1069
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: so uh so then she flies out. I got I

1070
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 3: got a voice message on WhatsApp the night before, so

1071
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 3: it's January six sixth, you save it, yeah, you know,

1072
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 3: January seventh. I wake up Zultan from five Finger, who

1073
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: was managing me at the time. He's like, hey, man,

1074
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 3: turn on the news and I was like, oh no,

1075
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 3: because the last time he called me and said that

1076
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: Chester Bennington had committed suicide and we had just opened

1077
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 3: for for Lincoln Park in Madrid like a month before,

1078
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 3: and like that was my guy, bro, Like that guy's

1079
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: voice was that, you know, like I still I did

1080
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 3: a cover of Crawling, like a tribute to him. Yeah,

1081
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 3: I can't. I played it live a few times. I can't.

1082
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,479
Speaker 3: It's it's heavy, man. So I was My worst fear

1083
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: was like want something bad happened to some one of

1084
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 3: our friends or something well, like well like I've been

1085
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 3: I was like, God forbid. Right. I turned the news

1086
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: and the it is like Dolores Areada and Cranberry's died.

1087
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 3: It's like she had she had fallen asleep in the

1088
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 3: bathtub at the hotel and drowned. And so now I'm like,

1089
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 3: oh my fucking God, and then now all these newspapers

1090
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 3: are like she was currently in the studio recording a

1091
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 3: duet of Zombie with BA with Tommy Becks and bad roles.

1092
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, how these people fucking know about this already?

1093
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 3: So it was already out, like something happened and it

1094
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 3: was I don't know what. Somebody posted it. She might

1095
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 3: have posted it, I don't know what. Right it was

1096
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 3: out and the cat was out of the back. And

1097
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 3: now lawyers are calling. Everyone's calling me like we gotta

1098
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 3: have a meeting, and the manager is like, we have

1099
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 3: to put the song out. I'm like, well, this woman

1100
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 3: just died, dude, Like I don't I'm not trying to

1101
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 3: make money off this person's death. And like, well somebody

1102
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 3: else is going to if you don't do it now.

1103
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 3: And she this is a song that she wanted out.

1104
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: And then the you know the little voice, right the

1105
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 3: god voice, the phone call voice, it's like you should

1106
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 3: donate the money. I'm like, oh, and I just said it.

1107
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: I was like, I think we should donate the money

1108
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 3: to her family, and they were like that's a great idea,

1109
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 3: and so I signed off and I was the only

1110
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 3: person who recorded on the song, and my studio guitar

1111
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: player that I had actually recorded that song in twenty sixteen,

1112
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 3: and I had to re record that vocal line for

1113
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, So I owned all them, all them, I

1114
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 3: owned the master, So I basically signed off all of

1115
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 3: my all of my performance royalties in publishing. I started

1116
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,959
Speaker 3: a trust fund for her four children. She had two

1117
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 3: sons and two daughters with her ex husband.

1118
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 9: And you said that song made the most money, had

1119
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 9: any other song you've ever had? Right?

1120
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, ye yeah, it has billion, billions, billions of strengths.

1121
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 9: The YouTube has five hundred and seven million last.

1122
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 3: Night, And then you look at like, you know, so,

1123
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: then there's Pandora, there's Amazon, Deezer iTunes, you know, plus

1124
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: all the you know titles, yeah and so, and the

1125
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: ring tones in this idea, so all that we don't need. Yeah,

1126
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: I mean I think that. I think the video on

1127
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 3: YouTube generated over like eight million dollars just just that video.

1128
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 5: What a blessing, you know, Tony, He's not an asshole,

1129
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 5: like you said, get a.

1130
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 3: Couple of drinks and what happens? Guy, get out the

1131
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 3: bathroom pocket check.

1132
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: And not only that, but what a blessing for you

1133
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 2: to do that for the kids and the family like that.

1134
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was amazing and like you know, the the

1135
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 3: I'll say this, like the label they really handled this.

1136
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 3: They had me and my guitar player flying all over

1137
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 3: the world like within two days, playing acoustically on morning

1138
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 3: shows in Germany and London and went like wait, then

1139
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,959
Speaker 3: we went to we went to Ireland and we played

1140
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: on the late Late show at Ryan Turberty, which is

1141
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 3: their Saturday night live and the we we it's live

1142
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: and they let me sing. Wow, they did not they.

1143
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I'm singing, and I'm like I've

1144
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 3: been singing for twenty years. I'm like, I'm not some kid.

1145
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna sing. And I was a little pitchy, but

1146
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 3: I sang it. I sang that song. We played this song.

1147
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 3: The whole band flew out. The song went number one

1148
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 3: in the country within an hour. Shut we were and

1149
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 3: we're backstage jet lagged and confused like yeah what We're like, yo,

1150
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: what is happening? And Dan Waite was with me and

1151
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: I had had this person make of wolf doll. They

1152
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 3: stitched it and they made this wolf thing for me

1153
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: and I was like I took it with me as

1154
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 3: my good luck chime everywhere I went, and I gave

1155
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 3: it a dan and I was like, dude, literally a

1156
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: month ago we were at Onebley Arena. I was like,

1157
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, give this guy a get home. He still

1158
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 3: has it. And then then the band we just arena

1159
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 3: after arena after arena, every territory, you know, multiple tours

1160
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 3: with Five Finger Death, Punch, Shine Down, three Days, Grace, Canada, USA,

1161
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 3: all over Europe, huge festivals, playing with you know, Romstein

1162
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 3: and Tool and you know, we went to Australia with Nickelback,

1163
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 3: which is like one of my favorite bands. People don't

1164
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 3: like Nicoback. It's like, oh er Nicowack. I'm like, I

1165
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 3: love Nicoback, I love Creed and fuck you how about that.

1166
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of people the numbers don't lie.

1167
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Coolio too fucking fuck you know. So yeah,

1168
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: so yeah, but so so it was like this crazy

1169
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 3: dream like it was like everything happened, you know, and

1170
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: then again like twenty twenty happened. I started talking about

1171
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 3: these things I had. I didn't understand the implications or

1172
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 3: how I didn't understand how the pharmaceutical industry was so

1173
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 3: connected to social media industry, which was so connected to government. Yeah,

1174
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 3: so I didn't.

1175
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 8: Know we're programmers by they.

1176
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know. So I'm like saying things and

1177
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 3: they're like, you know, people are like freaking like what

1178
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: are you doing. I was like nothing, I'm like, you

1179
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: see what's going on over here?

1180
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 9: Calling him racist and he's.

1181
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: Like yeah, oh yeah yeah. That was like multi racial

1182
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 3: white supremacy. I'm like what. I was like, this doesn't

1183
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 3: make I'm like this is yeah. I'm like, bro. And

1184
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 3: then it was like people were like, oh, he's not

1185
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 3: you know, and my old band, like my guitar boy

1186
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 3: is black too. We've been friends for twenty something years.

1187
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 3: And they're like, well, he's not as black as the

1188
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 3: other guy. And I'm like, now, I haven't a who's black. Like,

1189
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, nigga. First of all, so drunk,

1190
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 3: I was like what I'm saying. I'm from Brooklyn, he's

1191
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 3: from Jersey. They're gonna fuck you. I was like this

1192
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: motherfucker out here. Yeah literally, bro, I'm like, fuck you, motherfucker.

1193
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 3: It's funny. But you see how people on the internet

1194
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 3: and the people on the internet are fucking It's like

1195
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 3: so yeah. So it was a lot of that blah

1196
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: blah blah. And then and then I met dining ball

1197
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 3: game and that fucked up my whole life. Dine ball

1198
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 3: game is code for Donald Trump. Oh yeah, And so

1199
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 3: this this was some wild ship. So you know, I've

1200
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 3: been I've been outspoken about all this stuff. Right, mind you,

1201
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 3: I grew up poor. My parents were Democrats, you know

1202
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Like my father voted for Bill Clinton.

1203
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 3: I voted for Barack Obama two times, right, So like

1204
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 3: and then in my lifetime, I'm like, you know, George Bush,

1205
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 3: it was a goon, right, So that so that was

1206
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: my perspective. But all they they went after Trump so hard.

1207
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 3: It made me feel weird me too, So I was like,

1208
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 3: I don't I'm confided. I'm like, they're going to in

1209
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 3: on this man, Like what is going on here? Because

1210
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: I'm biracial, right, I'm mostly black, but I'm Paul White.

1211
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 3: And when I was little, I didn't know any biracial people.

1212
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 3: And I remember Donald Trump had a black girlfriend and

1213
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 3: it was it was a big deal people, and you know,

1214
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: and he hung out like he hung out Sharpton and

1215
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 3: Jesse Jackson and he was in all these rap songs.

1216
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 3: And I was like, hey, yeah, he knew Mike. So

1217
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know. I'm like, this dude

1218
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 3: was from New York. Yeah, I was like I don't know.

1219
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 3: So I was like I don't this is weird and

1220
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 3: like his you know, his twitter is all fucking crazy

1221
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,959
Speaker 3: and ship like I'm just like, but so is yay

1222
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: and you know, yeah, and at this point, if you

1223
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 3: asked the wrong if you asked the right person, my

1224
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 3: my social media was crazy because I'm like, yoh, did

1225
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: you guys know that fucking you know anyway? And uh

1226
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 3: I want up being right but uh so so so

1227
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 3: like honestly, like I was convinced and like he he

1228
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 3: gave he gave my uh my friend the magat had

1229
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 3: to give to me, and you know, I was just

1230
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 3: like I looked at Joe and I was like, I'm

1231
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: like I can't. I can't fuck with this dude. Like

1232
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 3: first he was like if you don't both of me,

1233
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 3: he ain't black. I was strike one, right, I was

1234
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 3: like strike one like high key and then and then

1235
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 3: strike too soon, yeah, and then starting to look at

1236
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 3: his his like policy, right, I don't really go off

1237
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 3: personality because I don't. It's like principles before personalities and recovery,

1238
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 3: and that's what I was applying because I'm like, look,

1239
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, it's not like you know,

1240
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: you're not It's not like you're running JFK versus you know,

1241
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 3: you know whoever. Right, We're in a weird position here

1242
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 3: and it's very polarizing, and I just didn't think that

1243
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: Joe had the cognitive function to get us out of

1244
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 3: the economic destruction that was the pandemic. So I put

1245
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 3: on a hat, I took a selfie on Instagram and

1246
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 3: I was like, listen, I've thought about this a lot

1247
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 3: of I'm not somebody who doesn't make I make that.

1248
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 3: I don't make decisions without researching things. And it was months,

1249
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 3: months of digging and learning, and people were home because

1250
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 3: of the pandemic. So I was like, oh, I'll just

1251
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 3: go read up. I'll just read everything I can find

1252
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 3: on both candidates, and two things happen every all of

1253
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 3: the fans and like the whole working class fan base,

1254
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 3: my socials exploded. The post got like one hundred thousand likes,

1255
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 3: and then my Instagram went to like three hundred and

1256
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 3: fifty thousand followers like that, and I was the most

1257
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: covered rock musician once again in every media outlet, except

1258
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 3: these people were saying horrible things about me, terrible terrible

1259
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 3: things about me. Yeah, yeah, and so, so that happened,

1260
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 3: and then you know, I had I was in I

1261
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 3: had a toxic relationship. I was trying to help. I

1262
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 3: was trying to wipe this chick up into sobariety. But she,

1263
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 3: you know, she had she had multiple issues. My sponsor

1264
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 3: always says, how can you tell who the alcoholic is

1265
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 3: at the gang bang? And I was like how, He's like,

1266
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 3: it's a guy proposing, and I was like I was.

1267
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 3: I was like, I'll be that guy. I'm like, you know,

1268
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 3: but we've been to therapy, we've worked on it. Everything's

1269
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 3: better now, life is good. We're not engaging in those behaviors.

1270
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 3: S LA. That's the final frontier. But anyway, so I

1271
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 3: so I had broken up with this chick. She was

1272
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 3: having an affair with a rod and I caught her.

1273
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 3: And she also had a history of physical violence and

1274
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 3: like pills and drinking. And I finally was like that

1275
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 3: was the last struck and I moved down. I seen

1276
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 3: him at the gym and I'm like, what's up, bro? Yeah,

1277
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 3: we won't go into the details. He's asking, he's asking

1278
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 3: on bros. So everybody, my man, my man needs a program.

1279
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 3: But I'm not. I'm just god bless you, God bless Yeah. Listen, hey,

1280
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it, bro, you know what

1281
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 3: I mean. I'm just glad that that's my dating pool.

1282
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 3: You know, I don't got to.

1283
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 5: Already put a picture of her in my head.

1284
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1285
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, she's fine as fun, but she'll kill you anyway.

1286
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 3: So she so she got mad, so she basically like

1287
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 3: lost her meal ticket and then decided. First she called

1288
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 3: the police and said I killed myself. And so then

1289
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 3: the you know, and I donate money to the to

1290
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 3: l A p D. And I've donated money to the

1291
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 3: officers who were showing the Compton shooting. And my my

1292
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 3: grandfather was x Y p D. And I've been very

1293
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 3: you know, outwardly outspoken about the difference between law enforcement

1294
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 3: and that the one percent of bad cops that are

1295
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 3: getting exploited. To me, all cops look bad, and then

1296
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 3: that's not the solution. And so anyway, they're like, bro,

1297
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 3: we you know this. They're like, what's going on. They're like,

1298
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, I haven't seen this girl in months. So

1299
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 3: she it started with that. Then she said I tried

1300
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 3: to kill her. Detective called me, I got a lawyer.

1301
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 3: We went there. They're like, there's no evidence of any

1302
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 3: domestic violence or any of these accusations. She got more

1303
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 3: mad and then finally restraining order after stalking me for

1304
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 3: like So after she had swatted me right on a

1305
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 3: wellness call, I moved to another place immediately. So I

1306
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 3: moved to another house. This is all during the pandemic,

1307
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 3: so imagine having a move and then she found out

1308
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 3: where I lived again. So I moved down to Hunting

1309
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 3: and Beach because I need to or teas and like

1310
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 3: the gyms were open and people people did it right

1311
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 3: down here. I was so anyway, I wound up like

1312
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 3: you know, then I then I got a lawyer. Her

1313
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 3: lawyer's called. They said, if you give us one hundred

1314
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, will drop everything. And I didn't know, so

1315
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 3: again like I didn't. I've never had a meet too.

1316
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about this, and so this is

1317
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 3: big business. So basically what they do is they just

1318
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 3: they'll just accuse you and then you will pay for

1319
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,479
Speaker 3: them to not go to the media. So my dumb

1320
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 3: ass is like My experience of the justice system is

1321
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 3: that it's fair and right and like, all right, we'll

1322
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 3: go to court. And so because I wore the red hat,

1323
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 3: the media just ran the accusations and not the not

1324
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 3: the case. So I was wound up being completely exonerated

1325
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 3: the actually the court case.

1326
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, public opinion.

1327
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 3: And they actually gave her an online bullying restraining order

1328
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 3: because she had been harassing a woman I was dating.

1329
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 3: And I finally got mad and I posted her prostitution website,

1330
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 3: which her employee had tipped me off to go quit

1331
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 3: working for her and then testified on my palf against her,

1332
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 3: and I posted that and I violated the tro so

1333
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 3: they gave me that and then whatever. And then she

1334
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 3: claimed she couldn't pay for her lawyer's fees and that

1335
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 3: she was poor, so they so I had to pay

1336
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 3: for them.

1337
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 2: Anyway, the crazy story everybody listening is she came here

1338
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: with him today.

1339
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, she's in the trunk. Sorry. Yeah, well

1340
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 3: so anyway, whatever, it's all water under the bridge, and

1341
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 3: and like this is this is the thing, like the

1342
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 3: timing of all that stuff is like what wound up

1343
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 3: happening is is that the media, all the all of

1344
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 3: the media was so anti Trump, and they thought he

1345
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 3: was going to be the next Hitler because they were

1346
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 3: they just you know, everyone's just taking in whatever they're given,

1347
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 3: so that that became their thing, and so they just

1348
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 3: tried to They basically land basted me with that. My

1349
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 3: band members turned on me, the label tried to get

1350
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 3: rid of me, and then we wound up, you know,

1351
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 3: having a massive lawsuit.

1352
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 8: You know, kudos to you for doing what you believe.

1353
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, and and and every but he should have their

1354
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 7: own voice and their own speaking. And we know that,

1355
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 7: you know, and any I think anybody that has the

1356
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 7: opportunity to see what happens knows there was a lot

1357
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 7: of censor and in fact, we get censored all the time.

1358
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 8: We're Shadow band.

1359
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 7: You know, we've been kicked off, kicked out because of

1360
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 7: cannabis and the name just because of the name.

1361
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 8: I mean that we you know, we're we're not selling,

1362
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 8: you know, we're not doing anything.

1363
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 3: It just happens.

1364
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 7: But I think we've seen it more than ever this time.

1365
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 7: And that was what was scary for me too. But

1366
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 7: I too grew up as a Democrat, you know, I'm

1367
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 7: from the hood. You know, we just got to know

1368
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 7: in fact, my my parents, my mom, you know, and

1369
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 7: and my stepfather are still you know, Democrats this day,

1370
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 7: and and I don't. I don't think it's there's nothing

1371
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 7: wrong with it. I think there's a lot of good

1372
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 7: views on both sides. But I just think there's you know,

1373
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 7: this one was different, and it was scary for me

1374
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 7: as well.

1375
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 3: Like I really love Robert Kennedy Jr. Who's running He's

1376
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 3: running against Joe on the Democratic ticket. And I know Robert,

1377
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 3: you know, I've got to meet him in the gym

1378
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: a couple of times over the years. I followed him,

1379
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 3: and I don't. This is the thing. I was actually

1380
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 3: not raised to be a party joiner, right, Like I'm

1381
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 3: you know, it's like you vote for the least worst candidate,

1382
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 3: that's it, right, and whoever speaking to you. And so

1383
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 3: for me, that's what it was. But yeah, and then

1384
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 3: and then it was like you know this, you know,

1385
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 3: then like I had my own people call me uncle Tom.

1386
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, I had a kid actually say that, some

1387
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 3: some kid out here. He's like some failed musician and

1388
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 3: he drives an Uburn. The only reason I know that

1389
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 3: is because he posts. He posts for people to give

1390
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 3: him cash. App tips and he sings in his car

1391
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 3: for money while he's driving around like trying to do rides,

1392
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 3: and he like cursed me out and said all this

1393
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 3: horrible shit and me so I stitched him on TikTok

1394
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, man, listen. I was like,

1395
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, there's so much unpack here, but like

1396
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 3: you literally are coming in how I call me racist shit?

1397
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, my brother, I'm like, how many black

1398
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 3: metal singers are there? You should be asking me for help.

1399
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, this is what I'm gonna do.

1400
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 3: I'm like he was very overweight. I'm like I used

1401
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 3: to be fat and you know, and he had like

1402
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 3: really bad teeth and he's obviously like really struggling financially.

1403
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'll give you ten thousand dollars

1404
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 3: if you lose thirty pounds in ninety days, and I'll

1405
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 3: even do the food plan with you. You know, I'm

1406
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 3: with Icon Meals in First Form Fitness. I'll call my sponsors,

1407
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 3: will get you set up. And he was like no,

1408
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 3: He's like I'll never do anything for anybody. Yeah, and

1409
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 3: he was just like, you're fucking miss and hear that

1410
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm not trying to.

1411
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 5: Make fun because of the Trump hat.

1412
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I was like, we have to get

1413
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 3: to a place where people, you know, can have a

1414
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 3: dialogue and sit.

1415
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 5: And literally asked you, like, Tommy, what the fuck are

1416
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 5: you thinking? Can you explain to me why Joe wants

1417
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 5: to ask that?

1418
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 2: Because you know what's great about this? He said it,

1419
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: he said it, he read. I respect what he said.

1420
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 2: I heard what he said. He didn't just say oh

1421
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 2: because x y Z. I read it.

1422
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 5: It's the best of the worst, the one like he

1423
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 5: said it.

1424
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 2: And everybody that I talked to you that way, people

1425
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 2: don't give answers like that, And that's what fucking pisses

1426
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: me off.

1427
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 5: When I could add like you, you don't have good answers.

1428
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 5: You're just a fucking idiot, you know what I mean.

1429
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 2: But when somebody supports how hot he got, because I

1430
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 2: can get you can get hot on it, but for it,

1431
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: I'm that doesn't like it, right, So I can't because

1432
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 2: I hate the fucker. But the point is this, I

1433
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: have a lot of good friends that do support him, right,

1434
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 2: And then I heard what you said, and I can

1435
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: respect that answer, which is I read a bunch and

1436
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: I did this, I did that, and I'm like, cool,

1437
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: there is the answer. I don't have to ask you

1438
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 2: why I heard it. So there for my other friends too,

1439
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what why you feel that way?

1440
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 2: He's like, well, I read his books, I watched this,

1441
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: I watched that, and I'm like.

1442
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm a I'm a boy of anybody, you know

1443
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,799
Speaker 3: what I mean, And like, this is the thing that's interesting.

1444
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 3: I was really twisted up about the way that he

1445
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 3: was presented. And so you know, my my guys in

1446
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 3: my knees were like, if you spotted you got it.

1447
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 3: And I was like, what is it about this guy

1448
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 3: I don't like? And there's a lot of things about.

1449
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 4: Him that I do exactly right, Like I can be

1450
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 4: overly alpha male because I'm I was abused as a

1451
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,879
Speaker 4: kid and I'm scared and I'm hurt, right.

1452
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 3: And so when somebody else does it, I'm like, oh,

1453
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 3: I'll get the fuck out of here with that. But

1454
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, don't you do the thing that I'm not.

1455
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 3: I haven't worked on yet ever.

1456
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 9: Drank. He's never smoked a sick like, he's never had

1457
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 9: a drink in his life.

1458
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 3: But he has character. But that's what we get triggered by, right,

1459
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't, I never was, Like I don't like,

1460
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 3: I don't hate Joe Biden. I feel I feel empathy

1461
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 3: for his deterioration. And then I have I have healthy

1462
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 3: fear about following someone who is crumbling, like I need

1463
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 3: to follow, like a leader needs to leave, a leader

1464
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 3: needs to eat lass.

1465
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 9: You can't be a puppet Yeah, being like taken advantage.

1466
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 9: You mentioned the empathy, It's absolutely true. When you see

1467
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 9: him and the cognitive decline that he's had, you wonder

1468
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 9: who's those puppet masters behind him?

1469
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 3: Well, those people don't care about him or his family either,

1470
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 3: because they keep running him into into the grounds. And

1471
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 3: so you know, it's you know, we got a kind

1472
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 3: of a banana republic going on. And the thing is

1473
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 3: is that the more you look into it, the more

1474
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 3: you realize there is a uniparty. Right. There are corrupt

1475
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 3: Democrats and corrupt Republicans who probably should have been aged

1476
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 3: out already secretly colluding together and fucking everyone over, right,

1477
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 3: because what have they got to lose. They're gonna be

1478
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 3: dead in a few years.

1479
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:53,759
Speaker 5: And they got so many.

1480
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 3: Trying to make sure that they accumulate enough wealth that

1481
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 3: their families are going to be good forever. All the

1482
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 3: new people, right, the newer Democrats and the new A

1483
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 3: lot of the newer Democrats and newer Republicans that are

1484
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 3: coming out and servicing are like much more in the

1485
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 3: middle right. Like I don't, I don't like this far

1486
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 3: left far right. Then I like what Like ice Cube

1487
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 3: has been doing a really good job about going and

1488
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 3: talking to anybody, and he's he's he's traditionally from the left,

1489
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 3: but he's but they won't let him talk.

1490
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 9: And they get it. He's getting Uncle Tom.

1491
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 3: But it's it's never But what's happening now is like

1492
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 3: you see the editors of this, like the African American

1493
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 3: community is not really doing that to itself anymore, right,

1494
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 3: It's it's the it's it's a lot of journalists who

1495
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:55,600
Speaker 3: are who are doing these things. They're not even propaganda.

1496
01:16:55,680 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 3: They're propagating. They're they're propagating anybody. Well, why do you

1497
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 3: think they go after weed?

1498
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it's the same thing.

1499
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 3: Well people started using weed and they wouldn't use opioids. Yeah,

1500
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 3: and what.

1501
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: Community had such a big power in something I want

1502
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 2: to talk about before we go to Tommy that you

1503
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 2: kind of just said, and everybody listening to the show.

1504
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 3: We started an hour later.

1505
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 5: No, no, no, but you mentioned JB.

1506
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 3: Justin Bieber.

1507
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 2: That's a big fucking name to get a gig, and

1508
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 2: how does one become a sober coach?

1509
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 5: How did you get that gig?

1510
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 3: So, so when I moved back to l A, I

1511
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 3: started a nonprofit organization. Briefly, it was very it's very

1512
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 3: hard to do, so my my ex partner Aaron Robin,

1513
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 3: and I started s FG twelve was just the Saint

1514
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 3: Francis Group twelve, so the Saint Francis Prayer. There's a

1515
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 3: group that was started by myself and twelve other rock

1516
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 3: stars that were creating online meetings for artists who on

1517
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 3: tour when their whole band's alcoholic and partying so they

1518
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 3: couldn't get to a meeting that day. We would do

1519
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 3: a gratitude listen to meeting online every day. And then

1520
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 3: it grew and grew and grew and grew, turned into

1521
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 3: a nonprofit and then we couldn't really keep it going

1522
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 3: because it's a lot. It was like super it's a

1523
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 3: lot of work without a staff, and so I started

1524
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 3: looking for outside work and I was introduced to Earl

1525
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 3: high Tower and so he had a place called Madden

1526
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 3: House in Santa Monica and they needed somebody to live

1527
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 3: in and watch. It's a men's house. And so I

1528
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 3: got that job and I started working there and I

1529
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 3: was there for months. I had to cook for all

1530
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 3: the guys. You know, it was like it was, you know,

1531
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 3: one of those I was like the den father, yeah,

1532
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 3: you know. And then so so Earl was speaking at

1533
01:18:55,360 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 3: the Long Cabin and yeah, in Hollywood, and he was like, hey,

1534
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 3: the the opener canceled, can you can you come speak?

1535
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 3: And we were I was already taking the guys to

1536
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 3: go see Earl speak. So I was like, yeah, I'll

1537
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 3: open up whatever. We still talk about it like a

1538
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 3: like it's concerts. And then yeah, speaker. And so I

1539
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 3: did the I did the you know, I did. I

1540
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 3: did the whole I did the whole trained story and

1541
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 3: the brother and the this that the other. I wound

1542
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 3: up going over whole rooms just you know, and then

1543
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 3: yeah and then and like that was and Earl was

1544
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 3: like what the fuck because Earl, dude, Earl story is crazy.

1545
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 3: He was in a plane crash on a private jet

1546
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 3: and his whole family died except him, and he watched

1547
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 3: his whole family die.

1548
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 5: Dude, you're not gonna believe was a story today on

1549
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 5: a on a meeting to day.

1550
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 3: That's Earl.

1551
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 5: That's so crazy to say that.

1552
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so where God, I have no idea who

1553
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 3: it was.

1554
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 5: And they said, if this guy can stay, and I didn't.

1555
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 5: I didn't get well, I got goosebug right now. Yeah,

1556
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 5: and that's so weird that this is the second time

1557
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 5: I'm hearing that story.

1558
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 3: And he was a musician, he plays guitar, and so

1559
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 3: he he heard that and he was like next day,

1560
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 3: he was like, we're gonna start getting he certified. And

1561
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 3: so I had to go do all these classes. I

1562
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 3: had to get trained in CPR and defibulator and all

1563
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 3: these shirts and then do these classes. And they had

1564
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 3: me doing all this stuff and it was like, mister

1565
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 3: MIAGGI like here, paint this fence, wax this car. And

1566
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm like, all right, whatever, you you know, well,

1567
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 3: this is the thing I used to do, this prayer

1568
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 3: called got up Please, I'll do anything whatever you want

1569
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 3: me to do today, I'll do anything. And uh so

1570
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 3: I was in I did that for one whole year

1571
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 3: so this was the year that this went on during

1572
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 3: that year and one day he was like, hey, he's

1573
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 3: like another guy was moving into the house taking my job.

1574
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 3: And I was like, who who's this guy? I was like,

1575
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 3: what's this guy doing here? And I knew him. I

1576
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 3: was like, what is Jason doing here? And he's like,

1577
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 3: he's like, pack up your ship, meet me at this address.

1578
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 3: And that's how that started. Wow, And so that was

1579
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 3: one of my That was my first big gig.

1580
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 9: And then how long did that last?

1581
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 3: For? Like thirty under thirty days? Yeah, an interesting cat

1582
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 3: and we we also we had he had two guys

1583
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 3: on him, so we would do twenty four hour shifts

1584
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 3: on and off. And he's an interesting guy. Man. We've

1585
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 3: been to church together, We've like gone hiking, and yeah, I.

1586
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 2: Think I probably see some footage with you guys together,

1587
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 2: and there you've beat on GMZ with him. I think

1588
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 2: at first, something like that probaly several times I'm.

1589
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 3: Not supposed to, but yeah, somebody sent me a picture

1590
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 3: of me walking with Lana del Rey from years ago.

1591
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,640
Speaker 3: It was like a paparazzi shot, Like, Yo, what is this.

1592
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, like, my friends just outside of a meeting, like,

1593
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 3: you know, but what do you can't you know exactly?

1594
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1595
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, see we were talking about ice ceped getting

1596
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 9: black ball from the industry. We kind of picked up

1597
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 9: where you know, you kind of left the industry for

1598
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 9: a while when we six months ago. What what is

1599
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 9: it now that's brought you back? And how's that redemption looking?

1600
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 3: Like? Oh so so yeah, thank you for bringing that

1601
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 3: back up. So I went. So when I turned fourteen,

1602
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 3: I went to Costa Rica right before we met, and

1603
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 3: I kind of was like, I don't want to do

1604
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 3: this anymore. And I was really on a spiritual journey

1605
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 3: and dude, like, to be honest with you, like God

1606
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 3: spoke to me in a rainforest and like it was

1607
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 3: made apparent that I had nine step of mens to do.

1608
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 3: And it was really this weird thing that because this

1609
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 3: lawsuit had happened, and I felt like I was victorious

1610
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 3: and I was right. And you know, the band in

1611
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 3: my absence, the band doesn't sell records anymore. Particularly they've

1612
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 3: they really failed. They've lost three members other than me.

1613
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 3: They're like on their third guitar player. And I don't

1614
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 3: wish that on anybody, sure, but I had to look

1615
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 3: at how ugly things got because we had a social

1616
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 3: media war, and like they came at me and then

1617
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 3: I just exposed everybody, and you know, ultimately my Instagram

1618
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 3: got taken down from life. So I'm on my third

1619
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 3: or fourth one banned from the metaverse. Power of the

1620
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 3: people and yeah.

1621
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 5: Trying to keep a black man down.

1622
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, my TikTok's lit though, keeping that ye bring it on.

1623
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I was like I had to really

1624
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 3: understand that I had a soapbox and a megaphone, and like,

1625
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 3: even though I perceived that I was telling the truth,

1626
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 3: the truth can sometimes be destructive to people who are

1627
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 3: not ready to hear it or live it. And so

1628
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 3: I caused a lot of damage and so you know

1629
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 3: I had to I started making amends.

1630
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 9: They're not ready to hear it.

1631
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's also my behavior. I look at my behavior.

1632
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 3: I didn't need to force it down to everyone's throat. Right,

1633
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 3: and self righteous indignation is a very slippery slope for

1634
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 3: people like us. Right, we're not allowed to get angry.

1635
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 3: We're not supposed to, you know.

1636
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 5: Is what I'm saying. Loving kind and the last one necessary.

1637
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I didn't I failed. I failed, you know,

1638
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 3: restrained a pen and tongue on so many occasions that

1639
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 3: wound up costing people a lot of money, a lot

1640
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 3: of shame. And I was an ego trying to be right,

1641
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 3: and so I you know, it started with you know,

1642
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 3: I had had a broken relationship with Ivan from five Finger,

1643
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 3: and you know, we made up. We had like a

1644
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 3: really long FaceTime, decided to do a song together with

1645
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 3: a couple other buddies from System of It Down and

1646
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 3: this rapper John window Maker. Then we shot a music

1647
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 3: video for it. Yeah, and then we shot a music

1648
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 3: video for it, and then the label didn't want me

1649
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 3: to be on it, and then you know, and then

1650
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 3: last week I had a call with Alan, who owns

1651
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 3: the label, and I literally just said the truth. I

1652
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 3: was like, look like, I this is what I did.

1653
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm not here to focus on what anyone else did.

1654
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, I didn't trust. I didn't trust. I also

1655
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 3: allowed external influence to influence my decisions when it came

1656
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: to the lawsuit, because his competitors, other CEOs of other labels,

1657
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 3: wanted to see him lose his cash cow. And so

1658
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 3: I was very naive and didn't understand that I walked

1659
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 3: right into you know what I mean, Like I'm like, oh,

1660
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 3: these people are my friends, are on my side, Like

1661
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 3: they vote like I vote. And that's the problem when

1662
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 3: you have when you allow, or when a society allows,

1663
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 3: politics to be the primary driver between who you're going

1664
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 3: to trust, you're in big trouble because bad people are

1665
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 3: on both sides, you know what I mean, And it

1666
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 3: doesn't mean you know, That's why identity politics is so

1667
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 3: dangerous because I have I have just as much in

1668
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 3: common with you know, a cowboy in pace in Arizona

1669
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 3: as I do with my friend who's a lesbian and

1670
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 3: lives in New York City and it's from the UK

1671
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 3: and is married to her wife. Right, because we all

1672
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,719
Speaker 3: sit down and talk, we all exactly want the same things.

1673
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 3: The media and this kind of socially engineered division is

1674
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 3: propagated to make us think that we're enemies and we're not.

1675
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,759
Speaker 3: There's literally the one percent and then the ninety nine percent,

1676
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 3: and what they do is they spend they have to

1677
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 3: spend money to get us to think we are each

1678
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 3: other's problem. Right.

1679
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 5: Society's been doing that from the gideap though.

1680
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 3: But that's how that's it. That's the way that empires

1681
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 3: remain right. It's like the thing if you take black

1682
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 3: ants and red ants and put them in a jar,

1683
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 3: they don't fight, but if you shake the jar, they

1684
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 3: go kill each other. And that's what's been done to us.

1685
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 3: And so until America gets together and set and we

1686
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,839
Speaker 3: set our differences aside, and we stop, you know, holding

1687
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 3: people to the fire for what their beliefs are, and

1688
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 3: have a conversation, what happens normally is most of us

1689
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 3: really just want to be left the funck alone. We

1690
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 3: all really want the government to stop taxing us to

1691
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 3: fucking death. We want the price of gas and the

1692
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 3: price of everything to go down and be normal again.

1693
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,799
Speaker 3: And like we don't want to we don't want.

1694
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,799
Speaker 2: To be told the same price as it is in Kansas.

1695
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 2: For God's sakes, why can't we have that? Because they

1696
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 2: know what you make exactly. You know, it's it's and

1697
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 2: and we're being defrauded. You know, the American public is

1698
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 2: being defrauded by a government that does no law, that

1699
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 2: now serves corporate interests rather than the people.

1700
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,560
Speaker 7: You know, when that actually happens, and it's it's unfortunate.

1701
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 7: Is that when we have like a world war or something. Right,

1702
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 7: we have to we have to at that point come together. Yeah,

1703
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 7: and that's probably one of the only times that we'll

1704
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 7: see each other, which is a very unfortunate time to

1705
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 7: have to see each other.

1706
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 3: Have to come We'll look at nine to eleven, look

1707
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 3: at nine to twelve. Yeah, everybody was like, yeah, we

1708
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 3: have a problem here, and it's not us. Everybody was cool, right,

1709
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 3: everybody was on board. Everyone was like, Yo, we're Americans.

1710
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 3: That's America that I grew up. That's the America that

1711
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 3: I love. We're Americans. All this other shit, all these

1712
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 3: little specialty things, that's great, but we're like, when it

1713
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 3: comes down to us versus them, I'm with us, baby,

1714
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 3: Like that's how that's the kind of united front that

1715
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 3: we need as a people, and that will scare the

1716
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 3: ship out of the government.

1717
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 9: And what happened on nine thirteen we started invading other

1718
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 9: countries when after oil it became a military complex and

1719
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 9: all of a.

1720
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but that's what happened. But that's the thing

1721
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 3: is terrorism is not the thing is the enemy of

1722
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 3: the free world is not terrorism or or you know,

1723
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 3: Muslim extremists or religious extremists or anything like that. The

1724
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:53,560
Speaker 3: enemy of freedom is globalization and digital banking infrastructure, and communism,

1725
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 3: which is really you know, they're pushing socialism, which is

1726
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 3: is just it's a it's communism, and munism is just

1727
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 3: it's Bolshevism. It's the same reason why you know, the

1728
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 3: Bolshevik Revolution killed probably by the time communists ended in

1729
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 3: the Eastern Europe over one hundred million people through murder

1730
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 3: and through start, primarily through starvation, through intended starvation. So

1731
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 3: the same people and the same fa the descendants of

1732
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 3: those families that capitalized off those times and the people

1733
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 3: who capitalize off of World War two in the Nazis,

1734
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 3: their family lineage survive and they own a lot of

1735
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 3: the financial structures. They don't care about us. We're roaches

1736
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 3: to them. Imagine a bunch of these roaches over here

1737
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 3: are yelling at these roaches and like there's just and

1738
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 3: there's there's the exterminator. It's just like got them all

1739
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 3: on one corner now. And that's what's happening to human beings.

1740
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 3: We're being We're believed every time you look at somebody

1741
01:29:55,360 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 3: else who is less than a billionaire, billionaire, everyone who's

1742
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 3: under a few billion dollars, we're all trash compared to

1743
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 3: these people they have. Some of these companies have trillions

1744
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 3: of dollars. Right. We can't name names, but there was

1745
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 3: this one company that owns more has more financial equity

1746
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 3: than the country of France, not a third world country,

1747
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 3: my first world country. I don't know what you could

1748
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 3: say on here. They probably own this too. I don't

1749
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 3: be saying ship. Listen, don't you go name, but this

1750
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 3: is just everything I say is a conspiracy theory and

1751
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,679
Speaker 3: shouldn't be taking this truth until you do your own research.

1752
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,680
Speaker 3: It's all just fun. If I had a ten hand

1753
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 3: on I put it on.

1754
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 2: That's kind of scary, though, Tommy, knowing that you've said

1755
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 2: ship and then you've gotten the repercussions of it when

1756
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 2: it's like, well, this is what I read, this is

1757
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 2: where the money led, this is where the verbage took me.

1758
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 5: And now I'm getting smacked around for this.

1759
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you have to understand, like you can't what

1760
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 3: the forty eight laws of power, like never outsmart the master,

1761
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 3: no matter number one. Yeah, be smart, well telling it

1762
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 3: you lose everything. I'm like, we're gonna do it anyway.

1763
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 3: We're gonna make it again. Though, I'm gonna jump off

1764
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 3: this bridge. I'm gonna up the cliff.

1765
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 7: Minds like, we're run to the cliff, and right before

1766
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,640
Speaker 7: I stop, and then I watch everybody go with me

1767
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 7: and then they run past me, and I end up

1768
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 7: sitting there going what the fuck guys? And I'm like, dude,

1769
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 7: I didn't say, you know, become because it's at a

1770
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 7: you know. It's funny, like I said, I sat here

1771
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 7: and I recognize you from the Key Club, you know,

1772
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 7: and I you know, and I'm sure you never you

1773
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 7: put it in your head quick enough to know that

1774
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 7: you never talked to him about that or whatever, so

1775
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 7: you couldn't have came around, you know. So in my mind,

1776
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 7: I'm like, you know, oh, Bud, that's why you know,

1777
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 7: I seen him there. But but again, We've been in

1778
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:55,839
Speaker 7: this industry so long that I've seen so many people

1779
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 7: that are great friends of mine, you know, people that

1780
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 7: I loved, you know, celebrities to just you know, girls

1781
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 7: and and and other men trying to all come up

1782
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 7: in this space and then and all of us running

1783
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 7: very fast to try and get there, and drug, sex, alcohol,

1784
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 7: you know, you name it.

1785
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 3: It's all been a part of it.

1786
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 7: And again I've got a lot of times to that

1787
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 7: Cliff and I've run there and like I said, I

1788
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 7: come back five years later and they're still at the party.

1789
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 3: You're still stuck. That's one of the saddest parts. It's

1790
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:26,640
Speaker 3: seeing you come back and you're like, bro, you go

1791
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 3: back to the hood where you came from. And I

1792
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 3: call them barstool astronauts.

1793
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the astronauts.

1794
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 5: That's a good one.

1795
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 3: You still sit there like, yeah, I could have been

1796
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 3: an astronaut. I'm like, I'm like, Rick, you're still here, Tommy. Yeah.

1797
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 3: Oh you think you're famous?

1798
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 2: Now.

1799
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 3: That's the other one. That's you know that one. Oh

1800
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 3: you think somebody? Now? I was like, nah, dude, I

1801
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 3: always thought I was somebody and you told me I wasn't. Ship.

1802
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 3: Now you want to borrow a thousand bucks? Fuck?

1803
01:32:55,040 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 2: You always get Joe mister would look at Joe mister Hollywood.

1804
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 3: Come on. But that's the thing. A bodybuilder will never

1805
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 3: shame you for being in the gym, you know what

1806
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 3: I mean. A sober person will never will never shame

1807
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 3: you for for using a relapsing you know. Entrepreneur will

1808
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 3: never abuse you for trying to start a business.

1809
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 2: Speaking of businesses, Tony I want to get into this

1810
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 2: lifestyle and apparel brand that you have with my girlfriend

1811
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 2: mad Max.

1812
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 5: Over there and congratulations, happened on a show a while go.

1813
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:30,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, she has a lot of food allergies.

1814
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 5: Exactly, That's what I heard. So I can't wait.

1815
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 2: It's gonna be an easy date for us to go

1816
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 2: hang out and walk. But what's this lifestyle brand that

1817
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 2: you guys have.

1818
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 3: Well, basically, pure Blood is something that we came up

1819
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 3: with because I personally, I don't I'm not vaccinated right, no,

1820
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:50,600
Speaker 3: and I.

1821
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 5: As a kid, you never had any vaccinations.

1822
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 3: No, and so, and this is whatever my parents were like,

1823
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 3: we're good on that. And for me personally, when it

1824
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 3: came to the rushing of the new one, I didn't

1825
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 3: trust it. I know too much about history. I know

1826
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 3: about you know, listen, my dad got Agent Orange in Vietnam.

1827
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 3: I know all about the Tuskegee experiments. I have a

1828
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 3: healthy fear of my government. I don't trust my government.

1829
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:25,759
Speaker 3: No one should, right, nobody should. And so you're talking

1830
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 3: about and you're talking to a man who's friends with

1831
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 3: somebody who like developed biological weapons, and yeah, rest in peace.

1832
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 7: But you know, I almost want to bring it up

1833
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 7: for this guy, but I'd rather do it off air.

1834
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't want to get I don't want to

1835
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:44,520
Speaker 3: do I don't want to I gotta take my girlfriend.

1836
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 3: I gotta take my girlfriend's kids at Disneyland tomorrow. I'd

1837
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,640
Speaker 3: like to wake up in the morning. We're just like,

1838
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,480
Speaker 3: but the bottom liners is out. We were getting trashed,

1839
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 3: like literally, and I'm one of those people who you know,

1840
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 3: I've been like, oh, you're a right winger, and no,

1841
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, my body, my choice for everything. I'm

1842
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 3: you do you, I do me. That's my stance on abortion.

1843
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 3: I'm a guy. I don't have a universe. I'm like,

1844
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 3: that's on you, girl. I don't know. That's not I

1845
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 3: don't I'm not here to talk about your you know.

1846
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 3: But when it comes to this stuff, there was this

1847
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 3: weird hypocrisy of you're like, well, if you don't get it,

1848
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 3: you're gonna get other people sick. Well that's not true.

1849
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 3: And then now all the evidence has shown it's not true.

1850
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 3: And when people got you know, we have hired. The

1851
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 3: fights I was having with this guy, well, we have

1852
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 3: people who lost their jobs, they lost their liblihoods, like

1853
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 3: police officers, nurses, doctors. I'm friends with thousands of people

1854
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 3: I know in my circle who their whole lives were

1855
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 3: destroyed because they didn't trust this thing, and most of

1856
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 3: them had already been on the front lines and caught

1857
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:48,919
Speaker 3: it and had immunity.

1858
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 9: Dude, you know what I knew was I don't want

1859
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 9: to get on a tangent. But when they were letting

1860
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 9: people come in from other countries and those guys didn't

1861
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 9: have to get vaccinated, yeah, it's weird. That's what I just.

1862
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 5: Don't to do with this company, though. I don't know

1863
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 5: how how we went left.

1864
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 3: Because pure blood. Pure blood is so basically anti vaxx

1865
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 3: became an anti vaxxer, became like the n word for

1866
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 3: people who didn't want to get vaccinated. So I took

1867
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 3: it back. Yeah, I took it back. I'm like, all right, cool,

1868
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 3: you want to call me this, I'm gonna use it.

1869
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 3: I'm pure blood. They're like, oh you, and now I

1870
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 3: get people getting heat like, oh, you think you're better

1871
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,640
Speaker 3: than me because you didn't. I'm like, no, I absolutely

1872
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 3: respect and believe that every person did what they thought

1873
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:35,679
Speaker 3: was right for themselves and their family. However, your decision

1874
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 3: did not get you fired. Your decision did not get

1875
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 3: you ostracized. Your decision did not get you abused socially.

1876
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 3: I did. We went through this, we said thanks, but

1877
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 3: no thanks, and then for like a year we got

1878
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 3: with you and I'm like, you know, okay, well this

1879
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 3: is me now, and this is what I'm doing.

1880
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 8: Well.

1881
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 7: The couple that came in while we're here to ask

1882
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 7: me for my keys, which never getting back to me,

1883
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:05,719
Speaker 7: hopefully they so she she she's like today this morning,

1884
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 7: you know, she said, you know, her Eaters has had

1885
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 7: problems ever since she took that, you know, yeah, and

1886
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 7: she's had all these you know, minstrel problems, and she's

1887
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 7: just you know, there's all kinds of things happening to her.

1888
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 7: And she's even had hot flashes in the car this

1889
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 7: morning when we went to the boat just to go

1890
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 7: walk the harbor real quick this morning, and.

1891
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 9: Bro Lebron James's son just kneels over and just passes

1892
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:26,759
Speaker 9: out on the court. You with hard issues. There's way

1893
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 9: too many kids and they try to just brush it off.

1894
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 9: You can't even talk about that without them censoring. You show.

1895
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 2: African Americans are saying in general, males that took the

1896
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 2: shot there's been like such a higher percentage of it.

1897
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 3: So my friend, my friend Kat was pregnant and she

1898
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 3: got in and lost the baby. She literally lost her

1899
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 3: baby within two weeks of getting it. Well, listen, guys.

1900
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 3: So it's it's like, and you know this is I'm

1901
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 3: just saying, it's a very it's just very coincidental that

1902
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 3: anyone who said no to it doesn't seem to be

1903
01:37:58,240 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 3: having these problems.

1904
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 5: Are they're dead. Yeah, there's some that died. I mean

1905
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 5: some that didn't get the shot that have died.

1906
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're ninety eighty five.

1907
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, yeah, if you're

1908
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Speaker 2: gonna speak of the facts, we have to say the

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Speaker 2: other thing.

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Speaker 5: A little small percentage.

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Speaker 3: People people died in general because they were obese or old, and.

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Speaker 2: People died in general who got the shot and maybe

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Speaker 2: obese or older had complications at a time too.

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Speaker 3: Maybe. I mean, I just I've seen like over I

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Speaker 3: mean I think there's like over seven hundred athletes have

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Speaker 3: collapsed worldwide.

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Speaker 2: And multiple No, I think it's a bad thing too.

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Speaker 2: I Mean, I don't sit so far on the other

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Speaker 2: side that I like, I say that I.

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Speaker 5: See it, but I see the other things.

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Speaker 2: You know, No, I just can't see what We're just well,

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Speaker 2: I'm just citting facts, city facts.

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Speaker 5: I'm sitting facts. Yeah, I got the shot. I'm clear.

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Speaker 5: I'm cool to say it. My wife's in the medical field.

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Speaker 5: I had to get the shot. Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 3: Shot.

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Speaker 5: No, it wasn't like I was like, I can't wait

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Speaker 5: to go get it either. Don't get it twisted.

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Speaker 3: But we don't shoot. We don't shame shame people. No,

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Speaker 3: we don't. We don't shame any Let.

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Speaker 5: Me just make this clear.

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Speaker 2: You can't argue the blue about it because he makes

1933
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Speaker 2: no fucking sense. You start arguing about it, it starts talking

1934
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Speaker 2: about when he sold scooters. Won't even let you start

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Speaker 2: bringing it up.

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Speaker 13: No matter what how crazy he gets about it, you know.

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Speaker 13: I mean I literally say, hey, I don't think Trump's uh,

1938
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Speaker 13: you know, racist, And I'll say why and I'll be like,

1939
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Speaker 13: because he was friends.

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Speaker 7: With this he had a black girlfriend, and that's from

1941
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Speaker 7: the Bronx. I think he just talked very you know

1942
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Speaker 7: New Yorker. I was like, relaxed, relaxed, that's all I said.

1943
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Speaker 7: I just don't think that was the know, that's.

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Speaker 3: That's the way we operated me. But he just imagine

1945
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Speaker 3: if two candidates ran against each other that nobody hated. Yeah,

1946
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 3: imagine that.

1947
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Speaker 5: Can that's ever happened?

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Speaker 3: Can we get some new motherfuckers Imperial Listen, nobody was

1949
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Speaker 3: game banging on Romney Okay a Ross parole bro Yeah,

1950
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 3: nobody was like you know what you see?

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Speaker 11: You know.

1952
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Speaker 2: Though, everybody gets the idiot award. Yeah, dude, I think

1953
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Speaker 2: we can go on for hours. Yeah, I mean your

1954
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Speaker 2: story hands down. But you know what, we never got

1955
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Speaker 2: to the financial five.

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Speaker 3: Hey, the pics taking an hour, we do that.

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Speaker 9: Suicide prevention obviously next week when when this show airs,

1958
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 9: suicide prevention is going to be big. We'll probably drop

1959
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Speaker 9: an eight hundre number. If somebody got triggered, you know,

1960
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Speaker 9: you you talked about some deep shit and there's probably

1961
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Speaker 9: somebody listening at home right now. Tell me if you

1962
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Speaker 9: could in thirty seconds somebody that's thinking about you know,

1963
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Speaker 9: I always say suicide is a permanent solution to a

1964
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Speaker 9: temporary problem. You can probably speak to that best. Yeah,

1965
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Speaker 9: we have a quick message for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. What I would say is like, you know, if

1968
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Speaker 3: you if you're thinking of killing yourself, you might be

1969
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 3: killing the wrong guy, right, because if you do that,

1970
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 3: you're stealing from yourself the person you're going to get

1971
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 3: to become when you walk through the ship that is

1972
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 3: causing you to feel this way, and you're not going

1973
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 3: to feel like this forever. Depression. The great illusion of

1974
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 3: anxiety and depression is it tells you it's going to

1975
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 3: be like this forever. That's a lie. And the fact

1976
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 3: of the matter is there are other people who have

1977
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 3: walked this path. You know. Find where you know. That's

1978
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 3: where recovery is. One homeless guy showing another homeless guy

1979
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 3: where the bread is. Find somebody who has what you want,

1980
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 3: ask them for help, pick up the phone. One of

1981
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 3: this One of the most strongest things a person can

1982
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 3: do is ask for help. Right. I need to say

1983
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Speaker 3: I don't know and I need help versus I got

1984
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 3: this because I don't got it and we need each

1985
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:27,559
Speaker 3: other and I need you to be here. So please

1986
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 3: stay with us.

1987
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Speaker 5: And remember this too.

1988
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Speaker 12: Shell pass Absolutely yeah. And where can people find you out?

1989
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Speaker 12: I'm on TikTok at Tommy is vexed. My website is

1990
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Speaker 12: Tommy Vexsofficial dot com. You can text me at textwivex

1991
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Speaker 12: dot com. I'm on Facebook at Tommy is vexed. I

1992
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Speaker 12: am on Instagram now at Tommy vex two point zero.

1993
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 12: I'm on Twitter at t vexed.

1994
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Speaker 9: And then, what's the best way to get your music

1995
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 9: that's the most supportive of you as opposed.

1996
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Speaker 3: To the link iTunes? Well, I own all my masters,

1997
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 3: so everything under Everything under Bad Wolves, the first two

1998
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 3: records I still get paid from, and then everything. I

1999
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 3: put out three albums last year. I charted one, two

2000
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Speaker 3: and three on iTunes uh in America and I did.

2001
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 3: I was number one in Sweden, number five and it'll

2002
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 3: like I Charged. I still charted globally and I charted

2003
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 3: five times on Billboard last year just from TikTok's going viral.

2004
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 3: So clar to my songs. I've gone millions and millions

2005
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 3: of millions. Right now, I'm just doing a few shows.

2006
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be Orlando doing a benefit concert at the

2007
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 3: Doctor Phillips Center with Charlie Rockett and the Dream Foundation. Yeah,

2008
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Speaker 3: sponsored by Once.

2009
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Speaker 5: Sing a little something before we get out of here.

2010
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:38,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you want me to sing?

2011
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Speaker 5: I don't know, whatever, just it could be anything, just

2012
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Speaker 5: whatever you feel like.

2013
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Speaker 2: I mean, because you were singing off air before we

2014
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 2: started the show, you described the mic and started singing

2015
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 2: a random song.

2016
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Speaker 5: I mean, could be something random that's out there to

2017
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 5: be yours. It could be anything. I just want to

2018
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 5: hear you rip one.

2019
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Speaker 3: I don't even know.

2020
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 9: I better have my money personally, that's not the song.

2021
01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 3: I don't know where you guys are putting me on

2022
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 3: the spot. I got nothing, garious Rucker, We're a little

2023
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 3: love and is about here you am? But that's not

2024
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:14,559
Speaker 3: he It's like tag, you know, you just say.

2025
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 5: From what's something out that?

2026
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 10: You know?

2027
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 3: Me? I love by the way, but he's cool as ship.

2028
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 5: Actually, there we go.

2029
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, say one.

2030
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Speaker 2: Okay, how about Luther vandros Luther Vandross out of your

2031
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 2: league right there?

2032
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 11: I don't even know what's what's the Lutheran song about?

2033
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 3: Peeble Bryson? You know what?

2034
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 5: I was born in seventy two. Okay, back up, that's.

2035
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I remember people. Bryson.

2036
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:56,600
Speaker 2: What's what's your big Tell me your biggest song that

2037
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:57,520
Speaker 2: you get downloaded?

2038
01:43:57,880 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 11: Uh?

2039
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 3: My biggest song is Zombie from Bad Wolves.

2040
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 5: A little bit of that.

2041
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm not. I've saying that too many damn times. Bro,

2042
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 3: everybody knows that song. The Dana White just posted. There's

2043
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 3: a guy who's a fighter who's got zombie in his name,

2044
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 3: so every time he comes out, everyone's like, yeah, they're like, what's.

2045
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 9: In your head?

2046
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 3: In your head? Z okay?

2047
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah wait you rh you know, you know Joe

2048
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 1: doesn't go past anw and a half otherwise Joe Biden

2049
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 1: effect kicks it O.

2050
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2051
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 3: See how I'm still thinking he might attack me. I'm

2052
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 3: over here like and.

2053
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 8: He's like, you don't have nothing to say because you

2054
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 8: don't listen to anything I say.

2055
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 9: Caught from all the short.

2056
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 3: All. You're like Switzerland, like you.

2057
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 9: I love it when this happens because the decision is

2058
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 9: not a week ago.

2059
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 7: Oh listen mad, It's been fucking amazing.

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01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 3: I look forward to having more fun. Guys.

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Speaker 7: It's Cannabis Talk one on one on Financial Fridays.

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Speaker 3: We do.

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