1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Day Bake You At podcast. Good morning, 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, the third of March. I'm Caroline Hepkeat in 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: London and. 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: I'm Stephen Carolin Brussels. Coming up today. US President Donald 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Trump vows to do whatever it takes on Iran as 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: the conflict reverberates across the Middle East. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Mark its way a possible energy crisis as strikes on 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: all in gas facilities revive inflation fears. 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Plus a flight to safety. Gulf airlines resume limited flights 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: as the widening conflict triggers an unprecedented airspace shutdown. 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: Let's start with a round up of our top stories. 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Strikes are continuing across the Middle East this morning, as 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: the Iran war enters its fourth day. More blasts have 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: been heard in Israel, Lebanon, Qatar, the UAE, and in 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, where two drones that struck near the US 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: embassy in read President Trump insists there is no fixed 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: timeline for US military action against Iran. 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: We have the strongest and most powerful, by far military 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: in the world, and we will easily prevail. We're already 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: substantially ahead of our time projections. But whatever the time is, 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: it's okay, whatever it takes. 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: President Trump and his team have refused to rule out 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: putting American boots on the ground. He sold right leaning 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: news outlet News Nation that he believes it's unlikely to 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: be necessary. Secretary of State Mark Rubio says the US 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: military will now be stepping up its attacks against Iran. 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 4: The next phase will be even more punishing on Iran 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: than it is right now. Someone was streaming, how long 30 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 4: will it take? I don't know how long it'll take. 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: We have objectives. We will do this as long as 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 4: it takes to achieve those objectives, and we will achieve 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 4: those objectives. The world will be a safer place when 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: we're done with this operation. 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio was speaking as US Defense Secretary Pete Hagseth 36 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: rejected the idea that the conflict could turn into an 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: endless war, saying this is not Iraq, and our generation 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: knows better, and so does this President. 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: The US military now says that it has a superiority 40 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: over Iran and that its strikes have destroyed Iranian facilities, 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: including command and control sites and missile launch locations. Israel 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: has announced a new wave of strikes targeting the command 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: centers of Iran's Interior Security and Ministry of Intelligence. Iran 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: continued to fire projectiles across the Middle East in response 45 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: to the US Israelia tag. Ala Reza Arafi, a member 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: of Iran's Interim Leadership Council, is defant. His words here 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: are spoken through a translators Shirina piro Zira. 48 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 5: The Iranian nation will undoubtedly taste the sweet honey of victory. 49 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 5: We are now in a fate for situation from which 50 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 5: we can successfully emerge with the help of the. 51 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: People, Alireza Arafi speaking there as waves of drone at 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: tags by the Islamic Republic put pressure on the defenses 53 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: of the United States and its partners from Bahrain to 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: the UAE. US made Patriot air defense missiles have been 55 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: largely successful in stopping the Iranian drones, but the sustained 56 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: use of costly four million dollar missiles to destroy twenty 57 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: thousand dollar drones risks depleting weapons stockpiles in the coming days. 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: The US State Department has urged Americans to leave countries 59 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: across the Middle East, citing serious safety risks. Amidst the 60 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: escalating conflict. 61 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: The United Arab Emirates and Qatar are privately lobbying allies 62 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: to help persuade President Trump to find a way out 63 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: of the conflict with Iran. The two countries want to 64 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: prevent a regional escalation and a prolonged energy price shock. 65 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: Ua and Katar are trying to build a wide coalition 66 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: to press for the US military operation they're against Iran 67 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: to be short and to find a diplomatic end to 68 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: the conflict. Uees President Muhammad bin Zayed al Nahin and 69 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: the Katari Emir tamm Bim Madaltani have spoken with a 70 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: number of European leaders in recent days, including the UK's 71 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Kirs Starmer, Francis Emanuel Marconn and Germany's Friedrich Meritz. 72 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: Now the UK Prime Minister Kiss Starmer implied that the 73 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: US war in Iran is unlawful and poorly planned. In 74 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: a clear sign of the growing rift between the two countries, 75 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: he told the Parliament that the government would not be 76 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: involved in any offensive on Iran. 77 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 6: We all remember the mistakes of Iraq and we have 78 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 6: learned those lessons. Any UK actions must always have a 79 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 6: lawful basis and a viable thought through. 80 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: Flat Starma has allowed UK military basis to be involved 81 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: in limited strikes to take out Iranian missile launchers. But 82 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: the comments are in a line in the sand from 83 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: one of Europe's leaders who has tried the hardest to 84 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: stay close to the US President. However, US Defense Secretary 85 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: Pete Hegseith yesterday hit out at America's traditional allies. 86 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 7: Capable partners are good partners, unlike so many of our 87 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 7: traditional allies who wring their hands and clutch their pearls, 88 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 7: hemming and hawing about the use of force. America, regardless 89 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 7: of what so called international institutions say, is unleashing the 90 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 7: most lethal and precise air power campaign in history. 91 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: Heg Seth added in the press briefing that there would 92 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: be quote no stupid rules of engagement and no democracy 93 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: building exercise when it comes to Iran. But the UK 94 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: government's view is the latest sign that America's closest allies 95 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: in Europe are deeply wary of its approach to the 96 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: Middle East. 97 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Global oil benchmark brand Crude is rising further today, close 98 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: to eighty dollars a barrel, as Bloomberg intelligence as warrant 99 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: prices could top one hundred dollars a barrel in a 100 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: worst case scenario of shipping disruption and strikes on energy facility. Meanwhile, 101 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: European natural gas prices have surged as much as fifty 102 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: four percent after cut our shot production at the world's 103 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: largest LNG export facility. The situation leaves global energy supplies 104 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: facing a worst case scenario as a crisis looms closer 105 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: the longer that the conflict continues. Anna Paglia, executive vice 106 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: president at the State Streets, as investors are trying to 107 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: make sense of the moves, I. 108 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 8: Don't think it's only fear. I think it's a fear 109 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 8: and the opportunity investors look at the short term gains 110 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 8: and the long term a ways to mitigate volatility. And 111 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 8: this is why you see this is almost a neutral 112 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 8: trades in spy spies like might bet on the US market. 113 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: State Streets Anapaglia, speaking yesterday, as oil supertanker rates for 114 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: transit between the Middle East and China swart to the 115 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: highest level on record. 116 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: The eround war is rekindling inflation concerns across markets, darkening 117 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: the outlook for global despite a record year. Traders have 118 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: been offloading government dead as they consider how the conflict 119 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: could ramp up oil prices and cost pressures. According to 120 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: JP Morgan's CEO Jamie Diamond, it's a major threat. 121 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: We look at risk, we. 122 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 9: Look at the broad range of outcomes and there are 123 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 9: negative outcomes, but one of them would be you know, 124 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 9: inflation called that's the skunk at the party. So it's 125 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 9: been coming down, but it seems to maybe leveled off 126 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 9: around three percent. If things make it go up, and 127 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 9: this is only one thing. Now, you can look at 128 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 9: medical prices, construction prices, insurance prices, wages for certain things, 129 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 9: other things. 130 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: You know, inflation is a big thing. 131 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 9: It's not just oil. 132 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: JP Morgan's Jamie Darmond speaking to Bloomberg then, as the 133 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: former US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen predicted an increase in 134 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: inflation pressures depending on the length of the Iran conflict, 135 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: a Bloomberg gage of global bonds slid zero point eight 136 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: percent on Monday, the biggest one day loss since. 137 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: May, and against an uncertain global backdrop. The UK's Chancellor, 138 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: Rachel Reeves will deliver her spring statement at twelve thirty 139 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: today London time. Bloomberg Tewan Parts has more. 140 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 10: The Chancellor had long planned this has nothing to see 141 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 10: here statement after her pledge to deliver only one major 142 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 10: tax and spend package each year. But events in the 143 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 10: Middle East have thrown economic forecasts and the government's spending 144 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 10: plans back into the limelight, which old Rachel Reeves will 145 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 10: say that the world has become yet more uncertain. Soaring 146 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 10: global oil and gas prices have the potential to upset 147 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 10: forecasts for inflation and therefore the nitom outlook for interest 148 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 10: rates and recent good news on tax receipts is already 149 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 10: starting to look like yesterday's story in London. I'm youwing 150 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 10: pots Bloomberg Radio and. 151 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: We'll have live coverage of Rachel Reeves a spring statement 152 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio and television for our audiences in the UK. 153 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: Now, let's look at the markets. Those were our top stories. 154 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: So stock losses are deepening and bonds selling off as 155 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: the conflict in Iran escalade. So European stock six hundred 156 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 2: yesterday fell by one point six percent. Automotive, travel and 157 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: leisure shares hit hard. Energy stocks were up, though US 158 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 2: and European stock futures are deeply in the red. This morning. 159 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: MSCI ASH Pacific index is down two point eight percent, 160 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: but look at the costb dropping six point eight percent 161 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: this morning. One of the best performing stock markets seeing 162 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: a huge decline. Brent is now just shive eighty dollars 163 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: a bottle after spiking seven percent on Monday. Markets pricing 164 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: in fewer US rate carts because of those inflation fears. 165 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: You had US treasury yield surging on Monday up on 166 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: other two basis points today. Gold on Monday was up 167 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 2: seven tenths but actually were slightly softer on bullion this morning. 168 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: The next few weeks are going to be very crucial 169 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: really also for the whole health of the European economy. 170 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: Those are the markets. 171 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: Well, in a moment, we'll bring you the latest on 172 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: the growing conflicts between around the US and Israel, as 173 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: well as the ongoing disruption to flights across the Gulf 174 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: region and how that's impacting global flight patterns as well. 175 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: But another story that we've been reading this morning about 176 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: how prediction markets are seeing a record surge in bets 177 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: over the war in the Middle East. So Emily Nicole 178 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: reports on how conflict related bets on Polymarket, one of 179 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: the key platforms in this area, hit over four hundred 180 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: and twenty five million dollars last week. Now that was 181 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: more than double the previous week. This growth is coming 182 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: as critics question the legality and the ethics of betting 183 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: on military conflict. And this is as of course, regulators 184 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: are adapting to this rapidly developing platform and technology as well. 185 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: US regulations are broadly understood to prohibit financial contracts tied 186 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: to war, but Polymarkets main exchange operates offshore and outside 187 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: the oversight of US regulators. Different challenges being faced by 188 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: the platform Calshi. It says it doesn't offer markets that 189 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: settle on death, but it had to reimburse all fees 190 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: and losses on bets over whether come and I would 191 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: still be Supreme Leader of Iran. This is something that 192 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: is drawing a lot of criticism for these platforms as 193 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: well and asking more questions about regulation too. 194 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 9: Yeah. 195 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, this has had a lot of attention over recent 196 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: weeks and the kind of concerns about this growing business 197 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: that has the backing of some very large players. It's 198 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: got to be said, you know, is confronting a set 199 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 2: of ethics that, to be honest, is old, but is 200 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 2: coming back to the fore for this new industry of 201 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: online betting effectively on political and other global events and 202 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 2: the risks around that. 203 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's certainly really interesting reporting from our colleagues on 204 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: that front as well. But a link to Emily story 205 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: in our podcast show notes. 206 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: Now, let's bring you the latest and an updata on 207 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: the developments in the Middle East this morning. Our Middle 208 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: East Breaking News editor Patrick's Sykes joins us. Now, Patrick, 209 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: what is the latest this morning in terms of the strikes. 210 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 11: Either, Yeah, we know that Iran has been targeting US 211 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 11: based in Bahrain this morning. We also saw in the 212 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 11: past couple of hours those reports of drone strikes on 213 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 11: US embassy in Riard in Saudi The US is saying 214 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 11: it's destroyed some IOGC command and control facilities, so it's 215 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 11: not exactly clear aware and the extent of that. I 216 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 11: think now attention is turning to the stockpiles right both 217 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 11: on the Iranian side, how many missiles they have available 218 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 11: to fire, and on the Israeli and the Gulf Arab 219 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 11: country side, how many interceptors they have to potentially defend 220 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 11: against those attacks. Trump interestingly said that the US is 221 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 11: not where we want to be in some weapons stockpiles. 222 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 11: But I think that the mass of that is going 223 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 11: to be a really key determinant of how things proceed. 224 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: And Marko Rubia, the Secretary of Stay, saying that the 225 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: hardest hits yet to come. What does the timeline for 226 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: this US military action look like now? 227 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 11: Yeah, the US saying four to five weeks, but also 228 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 11: very clear to specify that that could move and that 229 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 11: it's they're not looking for an endless war. Israel this 230 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 11: morning was saying that it will be a quick and 231 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 11: decisive operation. I think for the moment, it doesn't look 232 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 11: to be moving in that direction. And Iran is definitely 233 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 11: keen to say that it's prepared for the long haul, 234 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 11: that this is a fight in its size for its existence, 235 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 11: and that in its size is in contrast with the 236 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 11: US right for whom it says this is a kind 237 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 11: of opportunistic war. And the Iran is really betting that 238 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 11: it can by dragging out the duration, that it can 239 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 11: increase the costs to the US in Israel and deter them, 240 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 11: perhaps bring them back to the negotiating table by inflicting 241 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 11: things like those casualties we saw on the US serviceman. 242 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, and we heard for about the actually of 243 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: Iran only yesterday. Meanwhile, the other Gulf states you know, 244 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 2: surrounding Iran saying that Iran it isn't Iran, saying that 245 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: it's not targeting them cut on a UAE, are calling 246 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: on allies to push for a US off ramp. You know, 247 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: they they are concerned. 248 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 11: Yeah, the Iranian position officially is that it's not targeting 249 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 11: those countries, it's targeting US assets in them. I think 250 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 11: ultimately for those countries that's a slightly false dichotomy, and 251 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 11: we've seen, for example, some hotels being here, a refinery 252 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 11: being here. Iran has also said that, you know, the 253 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 11: commanders on the ground, they're often acting in this decentralized 254 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 11: way based on orders that were given in advance of 255 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 11: the war, in anticipation of assassinations of top military commanders, 256 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 11: like exactly like what we've seen. So the golf countries, 257 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 11: it's a really difficult position because on the one hand, 258 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 11: they can't tolerate these kinds of attacks from a neighbor. 259 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 11: On the other hand, joining the US and Israeli strikes 260 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 11: against the run put some of a difficult position because 261 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 11: it then makes them a hostile party in the conflict. 262 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 11: Not to mention it allies them with Israel, for whom 263 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 11: you know, among their populations, that would still be a 264 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 11: very controversial thing to do. 265 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Patrick, thank you very much for bringing us the 266 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: latest this morning our Middle East breaking these editor, Patrick Sykes, 267 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: stay with us. More from Bloomberg Daybreak Europe coming up 268 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: after this. 269 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: The military conflict continues to disrupt air travel across the 270 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: Middle East, and it sent airlines stocks tumbling on Monday. 271 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Benedict Cammell, who leads our global aviation coverage, joins 272 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: us now for more. Benedicet's Emirates and Etta had did 273 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: add or conduct limited flights yesterday. How many planes took 274 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: off and how much airspace is still closed? 275 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 5: Yes, good morning. So this is really just a very 276 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 5: limited number of flights that are taking off from places 277 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 5: like Dubai or from Abu Dhabi where Etihad is based. 278 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 5: The airspace generally remains closed. So what you're seeing is 279 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 5: some sort of repositioning flights and evacuation flights essentially to 280 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 5: clear out some of the people that are stuck in Dubai. 281 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 5: And we're talking many thousands, tens of thousands of people 282 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 5: really that are stuck there, and that from an economic 283 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 5: point of view, are weighing on the resources locally. A 284 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 5: lot of hotels have put up people, the airlines have 285 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 5: agreed to pay for the accommodation and so on. So 286 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 5: it's sort of in the naked interest of the airlines 287 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 5: to help move some of these people out of the region, 288 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 5: and that's what we saw yesterday. However, there is no 289 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 5: normal commercial flight service happening in the region. We just 290 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 5: heard from cut Our Airways based in Doha saying that 291 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: the airspace will remain closed and there will be an 292 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 5: update tomorrow morning at local time. So that gives you 293 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 5: a sense of just how disruptive it is. If you 294 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 5: look at some of the companies that are tracking this, 295 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,239 Speaker 5: they say that more than eleven thousand flights have been 296 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 5: canceled inbound and outbound to the Middle East since Saturday 297 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 5: when the conflict began. I were talking, you know, more 298 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 5: than a million seats really that are affected here, So 299 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 5: a really huge disruption on the region. 300 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Indeed, and of course not gone effects because of the 301 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: hub status of some of those airlines as well. I 302 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: mean I've seen on social media people's journeys from Australia 303 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: back to Europe being rearranged from these things as well. 304 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: We have also the United States State Department now urging 305 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: Americans to leave countries across the mid least. What sort 306 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: of further pressure is that going to put on the 307 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: travel I suppose backlog that now exists. 308 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 5: Well, you're right, I mean, the Middle East has really created, 309 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 5: or has built itself into the sort of international omnidirectional 310 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 5: transfer hub, so you can fly to Dubai and then 311 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 5: connect to any other place in the world. That's always 312 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 5: been sort of the logic between behind having these massive 313 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 5: hubs in the region, and that obviously is now being 314 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 5: massively disrupted, and so smaller airports as well. Kuwait will 315 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 5: actually hit Jordan has closed down at night. But really 316 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 5: where the pressure is felt most acutely is in places 317 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 5: like Dubai, like Doha, like Abu Dhabi, and that will 318 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 5: have a massive knock on effect longer term. It's about 319 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 5: the cost of travel. Airlines will have to circle navigate 320 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 5: that region, It's about the cost of fuel, and it's 321 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 5: really about sort of is there still a viable option 322 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 5: to have such a massive hub in a very sort 323 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 5: of conflictual part of the world. The longer this goes on, 324 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 5: for the more people will start wandering about this. I 325 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 5: think it's too soon to put into questions sort of 326 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 5: the status of Dubai. It's taken so long to build 327 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 5: itself into what it is today. But if this escalates, 328 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 5: or if this drags on much longer, then people might 329 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 5: start thinking, well, maybe I should connect through Helsinki, maybe 330 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 5: I should connect through Fangfuk, maybe I should you look 331 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 5: at other means. So this is really potentially a tipping 332 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 5: point for the region, and it's a very dangerous one. 333 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, I mean, and then the Foreign Office has 334 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: been trying to gather the details of people who are 335 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: in the Middle East, British systems who are in the 336 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: Middle East, and I've seen numbers ranging between one thousand, 337 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: three hundred thousand Brits in those various countries, and the 338 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 2: question mark about what to do. Shares of airlines, crews, operators, 339 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: hotels have also fallen dramatically. How significant could the jump 340 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: in fuel costs also be to this whole industry? 341 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely? 342 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 5: I mean, remember that we are heading into the crucial 343 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 5: summer period for airlines. This is where they make most 344 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 5: of their money, and getting on an airplane is always 345 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 5: particularly on the leisure side is always sort of also 346 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 5: sort of how you feel about travel, and a lot 347 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 5: of people might have second thoughts right now whether they 348 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 5: want to do this long haul trip, whether they want 349 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 5: to go on this far away holidays, So that will 350 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 5: weigh on travel demand. And as you said, we saw 351 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 5: it with some of the shares yesterday of airlines that 352 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 5: aren't that directly impacted. Are the likes of lufthands, are 353 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 5: the likes of KLM in the US, a lot of 354 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 5: carrier so it shows that this is really a global phenomenon. 355 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 5: And as you said, part of it is the cost. 356 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 5: We've seen oil prices go up. Fuel cost is the 357 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 5: single biggest expense for airlines, so that will have an effect. 358 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 5: It's the cost of flying longer routes. We've seen this 359 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 5: already over the years that a lot of airlines are 360 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 5: flying around Russia that adds several hours to a journey 361 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 5: in therefore cost, so you might see something similar here. 362 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 5: It's a smaller region in the Middle East, but nevertheless 363 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 5: Iran Iraq those were typically very popular transfer routes for 364 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 5: a lot of global airlines. 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