1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Nineteen days until the first Sunday of the NFL season, 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: and still all quiet on the Ceedee Lamb contract front, 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: well except for Jerry Jerry's Jerry's never quiet. Here what 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: the Cowboys owner had to say today about his holdout 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Wide receiver Justin Herbert is out of the boot, is 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: back on the field. We will tell you what we. 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: Know about the Chargers quarterbacks outlook for Week one. 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: I mean, while still no smoke out of Broncos headquarters, 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: but Baldy is gonna be here to break down and 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: show you why. All sides point to that guy Bonix 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: being QB one as a rookie. 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: So much to get into. Let's kick it off right now. 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the insiders alongside Ian Rappaport and Mike Garafalo. 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: I am Tom Pelisera. 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: We are one week away right now from cutdown day. 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: Across the league. There are tons of decisions to make 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: the final week. 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: The preseason kicks off in two days, tons of storylines. 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: Let's start out in Berea, Ohio, where Deshaun Watson maybe 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: is preparing for his first game action since he had 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: that surgery on his throwing shoulder that ended his twenty 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: twenty three season, Kevi Stefanski said today all starters should 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: expect to play, and then coaches will determine who doesn't 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: who doesn't. Final determination later in the week. That game 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: is live Saturday night at Seattle right here on NFL Network. 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna think optimistically here Ian and say we 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: might get a taste of the Shawn Watson in actual 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: game action here. This is a player who, over the 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: past three seasons combined, has appeared in a grand total 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: of twelve games. He's throwing fourteen touchdown passes with nine interceptions. 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: In my mind, it's one of the biggest storylines in 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: the entire NFL this season. What version of the Shawn 33 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: Watson are we going to get in Cleveland? 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: And that's why this is a thing, right because usually 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: if you're talking about starting quarterbacks in preseason games, some 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: will play, some won't. 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: If they play, it's probably not going to be a lot. 38 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: Except if you're the Chiefs and really will sort of 39 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 3: just make sure they've come away healthy and go from there. 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: Not really the case here for Dashaun Watson. 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: Ever since he left the game or basically ended his 42 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: season last year with a somewhat surprising fractured shoulder after 43 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: we were all talking about what was going on with 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: his ankle. Turned out he actually let a fourth quarter 45 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: comeback with a fractured shoulder, and. 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 4: Then we didn't see him again. 47 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: So the fact that Deshaun Watson hasn't played since the 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: middle of the season, hasn't played at all in the preseason, 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: has been on somewhat of a pitch count in during 50 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: training camp has kind of led us to wonder what 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: he's going to look like. It does sound like he 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: is expected to play. Not sure how many offensive line 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 3: starters will be out there, so I imagine and make sure 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: to just get his feet wet then get him out 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: of there. 56 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 4: But you're right, it is a little bit of a question. 57 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: And I will say this, the Browns do not seem 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: as unsure as Utahm because the Deshaun Watson they saw 59 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: in his life lasco games, specifically while he was injured 60 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: and leading them back to a dramatic win. That is 61 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: the Deshaun Watson they believe they're getting this season and beyond. 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: One of the many stories will be covering NonStop throughout 63 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: the season right here on The Insiders presented by Best 64 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: Buy that entire division will be fascinated. They'll be chronicled 65 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: on the in season hard knocks. We know DeShawn Watson, 66 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: as long as he's healthy, going to be out there 67 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: Week one. We still don't know who the Steelers starting 68 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: quarterback is going to be. Mike Tomlin once again after 69 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: practice today, I would say it was brief in his 70 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: remarks on the position. Basically just said, hey, I'll let 71 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: the players know and then let you guys know on 72 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: Thursday what the plan is for playing time for those quarterbacks. Mike, 73 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: I have to imagine here that we're going to see 74 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: both Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. Neither at this point 75 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: has exactly grabbed the job. Tomlin has expressed frustration about 76 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: what the offense as a whole has looked. Like, what 77 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: do you about make of where we stand right now 78 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: with the Steelers quarterback. 79 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 5: He calls it an incomplete study. I mean, part of 80 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 5: that is because Russell Wilson wasn't on the field for 81 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 5: the first part of training camp because of that calf injury, 82 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 5: So that leads to the incomplete part of it. The 83 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 5: other part that leads to the incomplete part is that 84 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 5: Russell Wilson hasn't jumped up and really grabbed this job, 85 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 5: secured this job. He was in the quote unquote pole position, 86 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 5: that's what Mike Tomlin said, but he still had to 87 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 5: win the job. He was not going to win it 88 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 5: necessarily by default. He's got to show them that he 89 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 5: deserves that job. And justin Fields, you know, it hasn't 90 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 5: been all sunshine along the way, but there's been moments 91 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 5: even in training camp, even in meetings where apparently he 92 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 5: is showing them a lot and the upside that he 93 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 5: could potentially have, and the fact that he is embracing 94 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 5: coaching and getting stronger with his understanding of what they're 95 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 5: trying to do. 96 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 6: From an offensive standpoint. 97 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 5: I thought in the preseason we'd see some more justin 98 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 5: Field's fireworks. 99 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 6: We haven't seen that. 100 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 5: So that also leads to the part that Tomlin calls 101 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 5: it incomplete. So, yeah, it's coming down to the but 102 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 5: the final stretch here, a lot of teams are announcing, hey, 103 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 5: we've seen enough, we got our guy, whether it's Jayden 104 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 5: Daniels or Gardner Minshew. Over the last couple of days 105 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 5: are still waiting on the Broncos. But Mike Tomlin isn't 106 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 5: there yet, and these guys have a couple more chances 107 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 5: to impress them and win this job here. 108 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and part of the reason is because the offense 109 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: around him has been really solid and secure. Has been 110 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: offensive line injuries, and the offensive line has not been 111 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: as great as this team hopes there are. Jalen Warren 112 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: has been out at least was our last game with 113 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: the hamstring injury, not going to play this week. The 114 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: whole offense, obviously we know they could use another receiver. 115 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 3: We'll see if that's the one they end up getting. 116 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: And of course referring to Brandon Iu. So the offense 117 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: is around them has not been exactly what they hoped. 118 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: And I would also add that Justin Fields is probably 119 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: a better game quarterback rather than a preseason or practice quarterback, 120 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: mostly because of what he can do with his speed 121 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: and with his feet. The fact that there has been 122 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: an incomplete study, the fact that all the facts are 123 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: not known. 124 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: It's not great for the Steelers. 125 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: I'm just not sure it means that it means anything 126 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: negative right now for the quarterback position. That said, this game, 127 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: assuming both they're going to play, will probably go a 128 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: long way in determining who ends up becoming the starter. 129 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: You mentioned those offensive line issues. 130 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 7: Ian. 131 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: The Steelers put Nate Herbig, who had been their starting center, 132 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: on injured reserve today, so he is out for the 133 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: entire season. That's now going to thrust Rookis at Fraser 134 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: into the starting lineup and their first round for Tory. 135 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Fatano has been missing time as well, though they're hopeful 136 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: he's going to get back in the not too distant future. 137 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: Here as well, we know this justin. 138 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: Herbert is back on the field for the LA Chargers, 139 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: less than three weeks after he was diagnosed with a 140 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: plantar fascia issue. 141 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: That put him in a boot for a couple of weeks. 142 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: This is footage from today that's Herbert on the field. 143 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: He still looks like he's wearing like running shoes. Those 144 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: are not actual cleats, but at least he's out there 145 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: and moving around on the football field. 146 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: Good signs. 147 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: They still expect him to be ready Week one, which 148 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: would certainly be a benefit to a Chargers team that 149 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: really struggled last season throughout the season, but especially down 150 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: the stretch when Easton Stick was filling in zero to 151 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: four was sticking the lineup last season. This has not 152 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: been a really great preseason opportunity either for their backup 153 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: quarterback here, So we're talking about Justin Herbert here ian 154 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: his importance to the Chargers. It all goes without saying. 155 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: It'll be fascinating to see when we get into the 156 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: real games what exactly Jim Harbaugh and Greg Rowman cook 157 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: up for a quarterback who remember, but the plantar fascion 158 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: issue is probably going to be managing something at least 159 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: during the early portion of this season. 160 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, or maybe longer. I mean, this is not a 161 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: good injury. 162 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: And look, Justin Herbert being on the field is a 163 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: good sign. Being out of the boot good sign back 164 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: at practice means basically what the Chargers said, which is 165 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: that he has expected to be ready for a week one. 166 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: The fact that he's participating in eleven nine to eleven 167 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: DROs all good news. 168 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: Not so sure he's going to be exactly like they 169 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: wanted to. 170 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: I mean, he is a guy who really can use 171 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: his legs, is incredibly fast, especially straight line speed. With 172 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: a foot issue that could linger, he may not be 173 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: one hundred percent, which, as we're looking at this Chargers 174 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: offense as a whole, probably important to remember the one 175 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: thing I would mention is reps are important. 176 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: It is a new offense. 177 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: We're so familiar in the NFL world with Jim Harbaugh 178 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: that it's almost like he's not a new coach, but 179 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: he is a new coach for the Chargers. And Greg 180 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: Roman has not coached the Chargers before. He is an 181 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator's had a lot of success, specifically in the 182 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: run game. But Herbert has not been out there to 183 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: get that familiarity. So if you're looking at teams, if 184 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,239 Speaker 3: it's Week three and the Chargers' offense still looks like nah, 185 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: like it'll be sort of okay because they have a 186 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: reason for it because Herbert really hasn't gotten the reps. 187 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: He's needed in camp. 188 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you see him. 189 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 5: You saw him this a short while ago with Jane Day, 190 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 5: his quarterbacks coach there, who's back. 191 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 6: With the Chargers. 192 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 5: Herbert and Day had a great relationships with the hope 193 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 5: was with the new coaching staff and a little bit 194 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 5: of an old flavor in Day, a guy he has 195 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 5: a history with. 196 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 6: Was heah, sure, show it again, that's a boy, I see. 197 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 6: That's what you do. 198 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: That's what you do. 199 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: You challenge the control room and they bring it right back. 200 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 5: So the hope was with the new coaching staff plus 201 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 5: some familiarity as well, that this was going to be 202 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 5: sort of a I don't call it a bounce back 203 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 5: year for Justin Herbert, but a year in which he 204 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 5: really takes off and really shows his best football then 205 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 5: that we've seen over the last couple of years of 206 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 5: his career. So I agree with both of you, guys, 207 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 5: this is not something that magically week one is going 208 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 5: to disappear. 209 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: The foot issue. 210 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 5: I mean, it's going to be something he's going to 211 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 5: have to manage, and it may be something he has 212 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 5: to deal with for the entire season. 213 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: The guy taking one spot ahead of Justin Herbert back 214 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty NFL Draft also making some headlines 215 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: this week, though not really for anything that's happening on 216 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: the field. To a tongue of I, Lois sat down 217 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: with Dan Levitard, longtime Miami based media personality, and had 218 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: some fairly notable things to say about his former head coach, 219 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: Brian Flores. 220 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 8: If you woke up every morning and I told you 221 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 8: you suck at what you did, that you don't belong 222 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 8: doing what you do, that you shouldn't be here, that 223 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 8: this guy should be here, that you haven't earned this right, 224 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 8: and then you have somebody else come in and tell you, dude, 225 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 8: you are the best fit for this, Like you are accurate, 226 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 8: you are the best whatever you are, this you are that, 227 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 8: Like how would it make you feel listening to one 228 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 8: or the other? You see what I'm. 229 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: Saying, and then you hear it. 230 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 8: You hear it regardless of what it is, the good 231 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 8: or the bad, and you hear it more and more. 232 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 8: You start to actually believe that, I don't care who 233 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 8: you are, you can be the president of the United States. 234 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 8: You have a terrible person that's telling you things that 235 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 8: you don't want to hear or that you probably. 236 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 9: Shouldn't be hearing. 237 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 8: You're going to start to believe that about yourself. And 238 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 8: so that's sort of like what ended up happening, And 239 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 8: it was I mean, it's basically been what two years 240 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 8: of training that out of not just me, but you 241 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 8: know a couple of the guys as that have been 242 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 8: here since my rookie year. 243 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: Brian Flores was the head coach of the Dolphins during 244 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: to his first two NFL seasons, too have started twenty 245 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: three games in that time. Was benched on multiple occasions 246 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: in favor of the veteran Ryan Fitzpatrick. Then obviously when 247 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel got there in twenty twenty two to his 248 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: play and his numbers improved. Here was what Brian Flores 249 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: had to say in response today. 250 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 10: You know, specific to you know, the comments that were 251 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 10: made by Tua, I just want to say, look, I'm 252 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 10: I'm I'm happy, genuinely happy, genuinely genuinely happy for the 253 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 10: success the two has had, and I really wish him 254 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 10: nothing but the best. And you know, I think, you know, 255 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 10: player relationships are very important to me. They I think 256 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 10: that's kind of the foundation of coaching. And I got 257 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 10: into coaching because, you know, I was impacted as a 258 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 10: as a young guy by my high school coach and 259 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 10: my college coaching, my going away to Pop Warner. I 260 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 10: got into coaching because I want to make that same 261 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 10: kind of impact, positive impact pour into young people, help 262 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 10: him become, you know, as Ko says all the time, 263 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 10: the best versions of themselves. And you know, that's really 264 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 10: my goal always in coaching. So I wish nothing but 265 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 10: the best of Tua. 266 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: Brian Flores was flanked by a couple of his defensive 267 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: players Josh Mntellis Harrison Phillips as he got to the 268 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: podium earlier today. This also comes a day or two 269 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: after Stefan Gilmour chose to reunite with Brian Flores. They've 270 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: been together, of course with the New England Patriots and 271 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: now again in Minnesota. Ian There's a lot to unpack 272 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: in a situation like this. There's interpersonal dynamics at play. 273 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: We know that things did not end well in Miami. 274 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: There's active litigation on the subject. When you have a 275 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: player refer to former head coach as a horrible person, 276 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: that certainly goes into a vastly different stratosphere as opposed 277 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: to simply I'm playing better now with a different guy. 278 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, how much time do I have? 279 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: There's so much And really, tom As, you know so 280 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: much of the reporting that was done during the time 281 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: when Brian Fores was the head coach of the Miami Dolphins. 282 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: Edwards in trade talks to potentially trade for Deshaun Watson 283 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 3: in the Houston, Texas All this was going on for 284 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 3: more than a year two of Tugo I was there, 285 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: was trying to be the franchise starter. So taking all 286 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: that into consideration knowing what we knew at the time, 287 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: here are my general thoughts. One, mental health is important. 288 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: Positivity is important, and for people who believe in speaking. 289 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: Things into existence. 290 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: This is to essentially saying that these things really affected him. 291 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 3: The negativity knowing the team didn't specifically Brian Flores did 292 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: not believe in him, it negatively affected him. He had 293 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: to essentially get out of that and build and learn 294 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: to become a better player with more optimism and more positivity, 295 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: and so new believes in I don't doubt that at all. 296 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 4: That is a very. 297 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 3: Cool thing, and I'm happy that Tua gave that message. 298 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: The other part of it is for sure a little 299 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: more up for debate. The relationship was not good. Brian 300 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 3: Flores coaches his players extremely hard, and there are players, 301 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: say a lot of defensive players, but certainly players on 302 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: both sides of the ball who want and know the 303 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: hard coaching and come back to it. 304 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: Stefan Gilmore is a perfect example. 305 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: It is for sure not for everyone, and as Brian 306 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: fores tries to move on learn the lessons from his 307 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins tenure, these are some of the things that 308 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: are important to him and have to have an effect 309 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: on him as he tries to be a head coach 310 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: and tries to learn from what he did not do 311 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: well enough as the Dolphins coach. The final thing I 312 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: would say is as far as Flores being a terrible person, 313 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: that is for sure to his opinion, but the fact 314 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: that he had to play quarterback with the head coach 315 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: who obviously preferred someone else was an unbelievable challenge and 316 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: does go a long way and expec leaning while those 317 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: teams didn't quite get to where they needed to get to, how. 318 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 6: Much time do I have now? 319 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 320 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 6: No, that was that was a good It was a 321 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 6: good You said everything you needed to say. I'm just 322 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 6: I had to. 323 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 5: I had to. 324 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: I had to. 325 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 5: Brian Flora has talked about all the coaches that he 326 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 5: was influenced by along the way. Throw Bill Belichick in there, right, 327 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 5: and Bill Belichick eventually wore down Tom Brady right with 328 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 5: the we can get the quarterback down the road from 329 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 5: Foxborough High that can just complete that. 330 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 6: Pass and a lot like that. 331 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 5: That's a big thing of what And Brian Flores is 332 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 5: not the only Belichick disciple who we have heard this 333 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 5: kind of stuff. I mean, not necessarily a terrible person, 334 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 5: but we've heard that maybe he was a little too 335 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 5: hard on guys as a head coach and tried to 336 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 5: be belichickie In and some of. 337 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 6: These guys learned their lesson the second time around. 338 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 5: And it sounds like, just as what Ian said, that 339 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 5: he's learned lessons along the way, and and maybe these 340 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 5: Vikings defensive players are seeing a different Brian Flores then 341 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 5: we saw at Miami, and there were two different factions. 342 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 5: There were down in Miami that like what Brian Flores 343 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 5: was doing. Flores was doing and felt like they needed 344 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 5: that approach, and then there are a lot of guys 345 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 5: and you can put two in this group who felt like, yeah, 346 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 5: it was a little too much at times, and in 347 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 5: the end those voices won out as the team was 348 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 5: trying to decide what to do and owner Stephen Ross 349 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 5: with Brian Flores and he felt like, ye, a little 350 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 5: too hard on these guys. So if Brian Flores gets 351 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 5: another opportunity, I would expect that he would be different 352 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 5: this time around, having learned lessons along the way from 353 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 5: you know, the response he got from. 354 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 6: The likes of to a Tongue by Lawa. 355 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: Also seems that tu who in the past had been 356 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: very terse and whenever asked any questions about Brian Flores. 357 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: Maybe now with a new contract, sign feels a little 358 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: bit more comfortable expressing some of the feelings that he 359 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: may have kept to himself for a long period of time. 360 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: Brian Flora is still a talented coach, There's no question 361 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: about it. He has been a candidate in recent years. 362 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: He was at the last Coaching Accelerator as a future 363 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: head coaching candidate. That's a event that the NFL puts on. 364 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: He was invited despite the ongoing discrimination case. This is 365 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: certainly something that's going to come up as we fast 366 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: forward to January and February. He's a candidate again and 367 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: certainly something he's going to ask have to answer for 368 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: with any other teams that he interviews with. All right, 369 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: let's get it back on the field coming up right 370 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: after this. Although this guy's not out there just yet, 371 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: CD Lamb still a holdout at this portion of the schedule. Here, 372 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: what's going to happen in terms of that contract and 373 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: who is going to step into the void if CD's 374 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: not out there. We'll discuss it right after this and 375 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: the insiders presented by best Buy. 376 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Insiders presented by best Buy. And 377 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: there's Dak Prescott and there's CD Lamb. Now we haven't 378 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 3: seen a lot of CD Lamb this training yet more, really, 379 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: you know any of CD Lamb this training. One of 380 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 3: the NFL is the most high profile holdouts, has not 381 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 3: yet reported him in a contract dispute, So the only 382 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: time we get to show him is actually literally right 383 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: here with him crushing fools and dominating last year. Of course, 384 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 3: he has been a big topic for us here in 385 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 3: the Insiders, also a big topic for Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, 386 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 3: who talked to reporters today about CD Lem's status and negotiation. 387 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: Is your level of the concern rise the further camp 388 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: goes along, and CD isn't part of it? 389 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: Is with all this good work being done out. 390 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 9: Here, No, and I don't mean that to be insensitive 391 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 9: to our fans. 392 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: Are a CD. 393 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 4: But we're in good. 394 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 9: Shape there and we are having a promising talks. Say well, 395 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 9: why you keep talking? Won't you do something again? As 396 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 9: in anything, it takes both of you there at the 397 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 9: same time. But I believe it's got the proper a 398 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 9: mound of everything emphasis importance for everybody involved here and 399 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 9: we'll see how. 400 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: It goes. 401 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 4: Well. We want to talk about cowboys. 402 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: Who better than Jane Slater, who is our cowboys report 403 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 3: us many more things, but we're talking about cowboys here, 404 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: So welcome in Jane Slater, Welcome in our guy Baldy 405 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 3: to break down various aspects of this as well. All right, Jane, 406 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: you heard Jerry Jones talk about the you know, positivity 407 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: or whatever you might say about ceedee lamb. 408 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 4: Where are we? Where are we? Listen? 409 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 11: You and I have talked about this ian This team 410 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 11: has made it seem at times like they can't get 411 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 11: dills done. I mean, I look at Marcus Lawrence in 412 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 11: recent years, Zach Martin, Ezekiel Elliott and we'll get to 413 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 11: him in a second, and then they always find a 414 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 11: way to make it happen. But I do think it's 415 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 11: interesting that we're in kind of unprecedented territory here. And 416 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 11: what do I mean by that? 417 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 4: You'd have to go all the way. 418 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 11: Back to two thousand and nine to have a true 419 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 11: wide receiver holdout at this position. Fun fact for those 420 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 11: of you at home, that was Michael Crabtree. Now he 421 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 11: held out before his rookie season, held out sixty nine days, 422 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 11: the longest rookie holdout. He didn't even sign until October seventh. Well, 423 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 11: how do you do lay let all? Forty nine or 424 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 11: forty nine er receivers that year? The other one nineteen 425 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 11: ninety eight, Seattle's Joey Galloway, he held out all trading 426 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 11: camp first eight weeks this season, finished sixth in the 427 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 11: NFL and receiving touchdowns, and then, interesting enough, he was 428 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 11: traded to Dallas two years later. So what do I 429 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 11: mean by all of this. We're getting up against it. 430 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 11: We're nineteen days away from the Cowboys first game, and 431 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 11: I truly believe that this thing will get done. We've 432 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 11: seen precedents here in Dallas of it getting done. But 433 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 11: there is the thing that you've got to be concerned about. 434 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 11: While he's doing all of this work. And we've seen 435 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 11: the videos out there. I've talked to people who've worked 436 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 11: out with him. He looks sharp, his body's in the 437 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 11: right place, his mind's in the right place. Although I'm 438 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 11: still trying to figure out what the Spidey sense thing is. 439 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 11: I don't know if you guys saw that on Twitter. 440 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 11: He apparently isn't a big Marvel fan, so maybe he 441 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 11: is in his villain era. But you do have to 442 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 11: worry about the conditioning. And I say that because I 443 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 11: did talk to trell Owens today. I said, look, you've 444 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 11: played at this position, it's an elite position that he 445 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 11: plays at his level. What's required to come back? And 446 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 11: he said, look, he is conditioning. He's like, I've got 447 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 11: every faith in the world that he's going to go 448 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 11: out there and ball out. But there is a difference 449 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,239 Speaker 11: when you talk about life tempo of the game, and 450 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 11: if they were to give him a new deal, or 451 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 11: even if he plays through this deal, he want to 452 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 11: protect that asset. So I anticipate, and talking a couple 453 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 11: of Cowboys people, they'll have him on a pitch count. 454 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 4: The good news is they. 455 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 11: Know him, they've got his markers, they've got the GPS 456 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 11: system there, they know what his workload can be. But 457 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 11: I anticipate that he'll be on a workload if he 458 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 11: comes back. So fantasy owners kind of keep your hat 459 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 11: on a swivel in Week one if you wanted to 460 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 11: start CD long season. 461 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 3: If ceedee Lamb gets back, if they do a contract 462 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: ex sense, I think everyone will deal with the fantasy implication. 463 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 3: Just happy the Cowboys have their star back now, Baldy. 464 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: You know that for ceedeelamb to do what he does 465 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 3: and for Dak Prescott to do what he does, they 466 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 3: got to have some people in front of him. That 467 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: Cowboys offensive line is young and is talented. They may 468 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 3: have two rookie starters in Guiding and Bebie. I know 469 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: you've been grinding the tape. What'd you think? 470 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 12: Well? 471 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 13: They both started. Tyler Goyighton played thirty five snaps. He 472 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 13: played deep into the third quarter. You can't find a 473 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 13: bad play. I mean, lined up against Max Crosby, lined 474 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 13: up the starters against the Raiders last week. 475 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: He played. 476 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 13: He's a talented guy. He's very talented. And Cooper Beebe 477 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 13: he started at center. They had to replace Tyler Beiottish 478 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 13: and Tyron Smith, so they drafted those guys. They both played. 479 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 13: They both played very well. They ran the ball very well. 480 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 13: Tyler Goyiton's got a physical, you know, mentality to him. 481 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 13: He likes to finish, He likes to move people. He's 482 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 13: a big guy that moves very very well. He was 483 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 13: the right tackle at Oklahoma. He played life left tackle 484 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 13: in this game. I thought he played very well. Early 485 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 13: returns are very promising. Obviously, it's it's preseason all that stuff, Ian, 486 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 13: but they look like both of them look like they 487 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 13: belonged to me. 488 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: You know, people went crazy and I guess sort of 489 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: maybe rightfully sown or know that Tyron Smith left him 490 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 3: be Honish left and you just got to replace him 491 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: in the draft. It seems like early returns the Cowboys 492 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: have replaced. 493 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 4: Him in the draft. 494 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: This team is drafted incredibly, incredibly well, and it seems 495 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 3: like this class is probably going to do exactly that. Jane, 496 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: I want to kind of go back if it's okay 497 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 3: what you were talking about before with the holdout. Obviously 498 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: the CDLM holdout is a big deal. Now the Cowboys 499 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 3: have been here before, not just last year, but with 500 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: their new teammate resultso their old teammate, Zeke Elliott. What 501 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: can we all take from the Zeke holdout and maybe 502 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: how it affects CDM as hold out Now, I. 503 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 11: Think a lot of people, you know, around the league, 504 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 11: particularly fans, are constantly reaching out to me, going, you know, 505 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 11: why are some of us so optimistic that this thing 506 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 11: gets done? Because we do have a precedent of it. 507 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 11: Ian I mean, the Cowboys always play this tough talk 508 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 11: to get a deal. I think Jerry, you know, he 509 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 11: even says these sort of things excite them, but it 510 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 11: can be very, very frustrating to a lot of us 511 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 11: that cover this team. And I know the fans they're 512 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 11: wanting to see who's going to be on this roster. 513 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 11: But if you go back to twenty nineteen, Ezekiel Elliot 514 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 11: didn't even sign his new deal. And remember this, in 515 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 11: that particular situation, he had two years left on his 516 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 11: rookie deal. CD right now only has the what of 517 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 11: course they could franchise Taghm, etc. But he had two 518 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 11: more years left on the deal. His last practice with 519 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 11: his team was back in June. He ended up signing 520 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 11: on September fourth. I'll never forget. They had to wake 521 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 11: him up out of bett he was out there at 522 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 11: the Star. He ended up playing against the Giants. He 523 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 11: was on a pitch count. I think it was twenty 524 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 11: twenty five snaps, but in the third quarter he had 525 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 11: a touchdown against the Giants and they won the game. Now, 526 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 11: running back wide receiver to very very different positions, But 527 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 11: in that particular situation, not only did he get his 528 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 11: contract two years earlier. He ended up becoming the highest 529 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 11: paid player at his position, despite what the Cowboys said 530 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 11: all summer, which was that he didn't deserve Todd Gurley 531 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 11: didn't deserve his contract, and neither did Zee because they 532 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 11: didn't want to set the market, and they did it. 533 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 11: So it's kind of like calling your parents bluff. I 534 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 11: think all of us are just sitting around here going 535 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 11: just announce that you know you're going to do it 536 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 11: before the Cowboys get back for their night practice, the 537 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 11: start for skill for all of the fans. 538 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 3: I remember correctly, you and I were calling each other 539 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: like frantic at about six in the morning, just making 540 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 3: sure this deal was actually done. Bring some terrible memories, 541 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: but a great deal for Zeke and a great deal 542 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 3: for the Cowboys. Jane Baldy, thank you guys very much. Also, 543 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 3: always value your insight, especially as it pertains to the Cowboys. 544 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: Look at those guys. That right there is bo Nicks 545 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: throwing dimes. That right there is Jade and Daniels also 546 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: throwing dimes. Two of the impressive young rookie quarterbacks. 547 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 6: And what is a. 548 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 4: Really really good class? 549 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 3: What can we learned from each of the performances in 550 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: the preseason coming. 551 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: It's the final tune up before the NFL regular season, 552 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: and NFL Network has eight live games Week three of 553 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: the NFL preseason. Check them out don't miss one. Black 554 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: Our restrictions apply. Also streaming on NFL Plus. Subscription required 555 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: for NFL Plus. Some guys will not be out there 556 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: this week. That includes Bear's quarterback Caleb Williams, who show 557 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: enough over the past two weeks that Matt Eberflu says 558 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: kyleb like a lot of the Bear starter is not 559 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: going to be out there Thursday in their preseason finale 560 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. No word yet whether Bryce Young might 561 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: see any preseason action. He's had none so far here 562 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: in this exhibition schedule. Here Dave Canalis said, still deciding 563 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: whether he will be out there this weekend. We also 564 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: know for sure whether bo Nicks is going to play 565 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: in the final preseason week. That might depend in part 566 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: whether Sean Payton is seed enough to declare his starter. 567 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: Last we heard from Peyton, not ready yet to say 568 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: bo Nix is going to be the guy, though he 569 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: did acknowledge that he was very sharp in his second 570 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: preseason outing. As we welcome you back in to the 571 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: Insiders presented by Best Buy. It's Tom Pellisero, It's Mike 572 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: Garafolo and bringing in our Brian Baldinger as well. Baldy, 573 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: let's talk about bow Knicks. I know that you have 574 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: broken this thing down. I know, Hi, Sean Payton has 575 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: been on bow Knicks since he saw him in that 576 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: private workout. You watch him right now in game action 577 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: against NFL defenses. 578 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: What do you see? 579 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 13: Well, I mean, look, he's going up against Green Bay's 580 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 13: number two, which is which is fine, it's preseason. But 581 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 13: you know, the thing that jumps out is how much 582 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 13: in sync Sean Payton and bow Nicks are. Like, Sean 583 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 13: Payton is just a great designer of offense, a great 584 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 13: play caller. So I mean a lot of his completions 585 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 13: the other day were simple completions, play action pass. You know, 586 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 13: this throw right here, a stick route to the tight end, 587 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 13: like just very completions. Little screen to Javonte right here, 588 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 13: three count screen off play action. He gets a convoy 589 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 13: out there, this throw over the middle right there to 590 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 13: the tight end, Like. 591 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: It's a good throw. 592 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 13: That throw on the end, cut to Courtland Sutton for 593 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 13: eighteen yards, Like this a great throw. It's a great 594 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 13: throw with timing that one to you know, over the middle, 595 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 13: Like he knows how to get guys open. This guy 596 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 13: knows how to find the open receiver. And then he's 597 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 13: done a good job of taking care of the football 598 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 13: and extending some plays when it required it like this 599 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 13: right here, like go get yourself ten yards just first 600 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 13: and twenty, go get ten. Here's a touchdown throw off 601 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 13: a little boot drag action, you know, to a guy 602 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 13: that I think could be a big part of this 603 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 13: offense this year after the injury from last year. 604 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: So I see a. 605 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 13: Quarterback and a coach that are in sync. And the 606 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 13: biggest reason why I think bo Nicks is going to 607 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 13: be announced as a starter is that the team responded 608 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 13: to him. He moved the team on almost every single drive. 609 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 13: Six out of seven drives in two games now have 610 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 13: led to scores. And that's a guy that's a great sign. 611 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 13: Getting all those different players including Tim Patrick there in 612 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 13: the Enzo get him the ball like he did. 613 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and not really getting a lot of that from 614 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 5: the other guys either. So you know, you've got the 615 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 5: quarterback that you drafted to be your future. He's showing 616 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 5: you that he can stand up to or has sted 617 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 5: up to it to this point. 618 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 6: So, yeah, I agree with you. We've all agreed along 619 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 6: the way that he was most likely going to be 620 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 6: the starter. 621 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 5: Everybody, everybody knew that it was going to be Jadon 622 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 5: Daniels with the Commanders, but they finally officially made it 623 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 5: official dan Quinn announcing earlier this week that Jaden Daniels 624 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 5: is their starting quarterback in Washington. Baldy, he was impressive 625 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 5: in training camp and we were down there. He was 626 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 5: impressive in the spring, even when we weren't there, just 627 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 5: hearing some of the things that were happening there. He 628 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 5: was impressive in the preseason. So your thoughts on Jayden 629 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 5: Daniels finally getting the keys to the car there in Washington. 630 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 13: Yeah, Look, I mean he's played twenty nine snaps in 631 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 13: two preseason games. He took the opening drive down against 632 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 13: the Jets and he put it in the end zone. 633 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 13: Great sign last week. Not as fortuitous as he was 634 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 13: the week before against Miami, but he made a number 635 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 13: of good throws in this game, also pulled it down. 636 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 13: You can see that Cliff Kingsbury is going to use 637 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 13: it in the run game, whether it's just quarterback keepers 638 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 13: or you know, read options plays like this like you 639 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 13: just had for twenty yards last week. 640 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 4: He's gonna be. 641 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 13: A big part of the run game. I do think 642 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 13: that it's apparent to me, maybe not to Washington yet, 643 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 13: but they need more help around him right now. 644 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: I think he needs more weapons. 645 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 13: Is one of the reasons why they were in the sweepstakes, 646 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 13: you know, for a certain receiver in San Francisco. But 647 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 13: you know, regardless, he's very confident. He's got a golden touch. 648 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 13: I think he knows what he's looking at, and so 649 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 13: I think he's ready for action. And so just a 650 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 13: question of is there enough pieces around him right now 651 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 13: where you can really accelerate his talent and he can 652 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 13: raise the other ones around him right now? 653 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: Baldi, thank you very much. 654 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again here Shortly coming up after this, thoughts, 655 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: turn the attention some of the young pass catchers around 656 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: the league. You know Cooper Cup, you know Pooka Nakua. 657 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: Do you know that guy number nineteen, Xavier Smith? Is 658 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: that the next great fine for that Rams receiver? Corp 659 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: or Steve White will join us talk about that and 660 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: a lot more right after this and the Insiders. 661 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: Presented by best Buy. 662 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford continuing to ramp up as he works his 663 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: way back from a little bit of hamstring titaness, participating 664 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: in eleven on eleven drills Today, John McVay said, all along, 665 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: no cause for concern when it comes to Stafford's availability 666 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: for the real games beginning in less than three weeks. 667 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: Continued progress certainly a good sign on that front. Welcome 668 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: back to the Insiders presented by best Buy, Tom Pellicero, 669 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: now joined by my friend Steve White. Steve, we know 670 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: the Rams through the years have had some really unique 671 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: fines at the wide receiver position. Sean mcvay's offense is 672 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: certainly conducive to a certain type of player being able 673 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: to fit in. Are we going to see the next 674 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup Pooka Nakua breakout for this Rams offense in 675 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four? 676 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 14: Tom, we might have two this year. You know, we've 677 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 14: heard all the talk all training camp about the rookie 678 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 14: out of Texas Jordan Whittington. 679 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 4: But also a player who has was on their. 680 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 14: Practice squad last year who has emerged, especially with the 681 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 14: last two preseason games, Xavier Smith. 682 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: Now he's a diminutive. 683 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 14: Wide receiver out of Florida A and M University, who 684 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 14: spent time on the practice squad last year, who has 685 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 14: lit it up the past two weeks in preseason. Now 686 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 14: every time I see his wide receiver coach Eric Yarber, 687 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 14: who doesn't get enough credit for developing guys like Cup 688 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 14: and Nikua and two to at well. 689 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: Steve x is going to give it to you. X 690 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: is going to give it to you. 691 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 14: Well, he's given to that corner right there against the 692 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 14: Chargers last week, and you see him running the short, intermediate, 693 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 14: and longer routes. But he is also likely to make 694 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 14: this roster as a returner. He's had some big returns 695 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 14: in the punt game and in the kick game. And 696 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 14: like some of these other receivers, you're looking at Whittington 697 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 14: right here. These are guys again. Xavier Smith was undrafted 698 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 14: winning It's a six round draft pick. Phukinnakua a late 699 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 14: round draft pick, as was Cooper Cup. He fits the 700 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 14: mold as the type of receiver who will do anything 701 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 14: it takes to get on the field. That's why the 702 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 14: character and the pedigree that they've developed with the receiving 703 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 14: corps gives the Rams one of the deepest and now 704 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 14: maybe one of the more surprising receiving cores in the NFL. 705 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: Tom Steve, I think the late DMX would have wanted 706 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: to hear you put a little more grime on that ex. 707 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 2: Slide. 708 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 13: Here. 709 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: Your daughter does it better, Tom, and that's not her JAM, 710 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: but she is in the DMX genre. Steve, thank you 711 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: very much for coming on with us tonight. 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Forty 726 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 12: people up in all of these rooms loading beds getting 727 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 12: them ready. 728 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 7: What we realized if guys don't get enough sleep, your foggy, 729 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 7: your mindset's not writ and make back decisions on the field, 730 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 7: and it can lead to injury. 731 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 6: Helps you feel good physically, you get recovered when you 732 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 6: sleep in on something that you're comfortable with a mentally 733 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 6: as well, which is a huge part of training camp. 734 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 4: ITTI a game changer for these players. 735 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 7: They will being changes, their attitude changes, their moves changes, 736 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 7: and their performance change, and we view that as a 737 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 7: competitive advantage. 738 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: Falcons have been active adding to their defense over the 739 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: past week here, But what type of impact are they 740 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: gonna get from those veterans Matt Judan and Justin Simmons. 741 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: Nobody better to help us break that down right after 742 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: this than Baldy and Steve watch stick around see Insiders 743 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: presented by best Buy. 744 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 4: I coached him up the water now, Drake, how you 745 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 4: doing today? You look like you're a good move. 746 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 15: Why do you gotta be a hater on my camera? 747 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 15: Why you gotta be a hater on my camera? I 748 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 15: like that camera. I need that man, that's I can 749 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 15: hear you talk. Man, I'm watching, I'm watching you develop live. 750 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 15: What are you talking about. 751 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 4: Get you another one, Get you another one? 752 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 6: Great? 753 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 4: Okay, stay up, don't lose your mind. 754 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 13: Job up front, holding up, Great job up front, Great 755 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 13: job up front. 756 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 4: You're dead on me. Fine, I'm great. 757 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: I'm great. 758 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 4: First thing. 759 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 15: First, man, that was a really good day of football. Right, 760 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 15: you had a lot of stuff. Execution will get better 761 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 15: and better every single day We'll come. 762 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 4: I'll get better. I don't know, but get better at execution. 763 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 4: We had the end of practice. We make a hundred 764 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 4: field goals. 765 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 6: Right, do what you need to do right? 766 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 4: Time changes. 767 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 2: How do I get ready? 768 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 4: When do I get ready? Who do I see? 769 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 15: Let's do those things storm, get your big ass here, 770 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 15: break it down. 771 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 6: Man, get your big gass here and break it down. 772 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: Go bigger. 773 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 5: This season presented by best By it is time for that. 774 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 5: Here is Cythia Freeland's win projections for the NFC South. 775 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 5: That's her on the right, the Falcons at ten point one. 776 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 5: They were nine point nine. I believe she told me 777 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 5: they went up point two following the editions of Matthew 778 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 5: Judon and Justin Simmons. Let's bring in Steve Wisch and 779 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 5: Brian Baldinger because that's right where I'm going weish you're 780 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 5: a big Raheem guy. 781 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 6: I know you're a big Raheem guy. 782 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 5: I know you've got optimism for his first season there 783 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 5: full time as the head coach in Atlanta. Let's talk 784 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 5: about those editions Judon Simmons, what they mean to this 785 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 5: team in Cynthia's mind, point two wins, maybe even bigger 786 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 5: than that. 787 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 14: Had a long conversation with Raheem Morris last night about this, 788 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 14: and it's interesting because she said, you can't really look 789 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 14: at Justin Simmons and Matthew Judon coming in individual or 790 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 14: even even as a tandem. You have to look at 791 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 14: how they come in with the defense and Bald, you're 792 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 14: gonna love this. This is where you got in with 793 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 14: Justin Simmons and Jesse Bates, the other safety who arguably 794 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 14: was with one of the top free agent signings last year. 795 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 14: He said, the IQ of those two veteran safeties back 796 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 14: there and their communication ability will allow them to force 797 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 14: quarterbacks to make this post snap rise up there. 798 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 2: Justin Simmons and he said, that's part of the deal. 799 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 2: He said, because we. 800 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 14: Can interchange it one down low, one deep, one deep, 801 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 14: one right, one left. You don't know which one could 802 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 14: be doing anything. It will allow them to dictate coverages 803 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 14: post snap again because of their ability, he said, they 804 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 14: give an education seminar as to how things are going. Now. Simmons, 805 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 14: who is a free agent all off season, was just 806 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 14: signed to bring him along a little slower. 807 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: Now, let's go. 808 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 14: As opposed to Matthew Judon, he said, the great thing 809 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 14: about Judon is he's so good against the run. He 810 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 14: can win on the pass rush with power, he can 811 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 14: win with finesse. But he also gives them somebody who 812 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 14: preoccupies the offensive coordinator to think about a legitimate edge rusher, 813 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 14: something they have not had in more than ten years. 814 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 14: When John Abraham was there, he said, we can use 815 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 14: Judon as our main guy, we can use him as 816 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 14: a decoy. But here's the part I want you to 817 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 14: listen to. 818 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 2: Baldy. 819 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 14: He said, our inside linebacker Cayden Ellis is somebody who 820 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 14: can playoff of Judon because he's got edge rushing ability 821 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 14: and other things to do with some schematics that Raheem 822 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 14: likes to run with the inside and outside backers, and 823 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 14: that's where Judon could really be a threat. 824 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 13: Steve, you can't coach Iq. You know when you look 825 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 13: at Justin Simmons, Matt Judon, and Jesse Bates. These are 826 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 13: smart guys. I mean they're smart period, but when they 827 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 13: explain the game to you, you become smarter all of them. 828 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 13: I'll say this, this combination of Jesse Bates down Justin Simmons. 829 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 13: They only have fifty interceptions between the two of them 830 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 13: in their career so far. 831 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all. 832 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 13: The one thing I will say about Judon is, you know, 833 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 13: he's a great guy to talk to. And the thing 834 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 13: that really went unnoticed during his time in both Baltimore 835 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 13: and in New England is he does so many little 836 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 13: small things that aren't rushing a passer, that aren't trying 837 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 13: to get sacks. If he just wanted to do that, 838 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 13: he'd gets you fifteen sacks a year. But he's he's 839 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 13: not letting the tight end, free release, checking the back 840 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 13: out of the backfield. He does so many little things 841 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 13: that makes your defense better. You actually have to watch 842 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 13: some bald these breakdowns, actually see all the little things 843 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 13: that he does in the course of any play before 844 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 13: he's thinking about actually getting to the quarterback. But I 845 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 13: think this defense got a whole lot more talented and 846 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 13: a whole lot smarter to your point, Steve, and I 847 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 13: think that Raheem is going to be able to use 848 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 13: a lot of that to their advantage when they're scheming, 849 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 13: disguising and all the things you gotta do to try 850 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 13: to confuse quarterbacks in his business. 851 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 5: Follow Brian Baldinger on x Instagram TikTok were on TikTok Baldi, 852 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 5: I don't know me gear too, Yeah yeah, no, no, no, 853 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 5: no no wait wait wait, all these breakdowns is going viral. 854 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, but buy gear or you know, wait for some. 855 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 13: Yeah, no, no, no, I think it's a business. It's a business. 856 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 13: There's no giveaways. It's a business. 857 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 2: We charge for a REI for everything I'm in. 858 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 6: Here's my credit card number. Oh right, sorry, we're out 859 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 6: of time. Caleb Williams, Thank you boy. Steve Wisch and 860 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 6: Brian Balding, I love you both. 861 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. 862 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 5: We got a preview of Hard Knocks, the latest episode 863 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 5: coming up after this, and we're gonna talk fantasy. 864 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 6: Is it worth drafting? Caleb all Mack coming up. 865 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 2: After the break there. 866 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: Dolphin star wide receiver Tyreek Hill spotted today with a 867 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 1: brace on his right hand. My understanding is this is precautionary. 868 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 1: He'll kind of fell weird in a joint practice last 869 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: week against Washington. Not believed to be anything significant here. 870 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 1: He should be good to go for Week one. Final week, 871 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: the preseason begins in just a couple of days here. 872 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: It's the final tune up before the regular season. And 873 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 1: we got it all, well, practically everything here. Eight live 874 00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: games on NFL Network, including another quadruple header on Saturday. 875 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: Catch it all on NFL Network. Black hour restrictions apply. 876 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: Also streaming on NFL Plus. Subscription required for n f 877 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,720 Speaker 1: L Plus. It all starts with the Bears and Chiefs 878 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: on Thursday night later tonight. Meanwhile, you get another look 879 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 1: at the Bears in this week's edition of Hard Knots. 880 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 4: Kata Williams. 881 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 6: I'm gonna move again outside of the numbers. Now, he's 882 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 6: gonna tuck it and go return to Jack. 883 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 5: It's in front, He's it gonna touchdown. 884 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 4: The film. Well, I'll talk. 885 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 6: Caleb Williams finishes off the drive. 886 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 2: I gotta retire. 887 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 3: I'm d I'm a hold seven points. 888 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 10: Baby first one, baby first. 889 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 4: One in the home that I understand. 890 00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 2: It's just I hate to run. 891 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 4: I'm keeping it. 892 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna hold it. 893 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna hold it. 894 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Insiders, presented by Best by Tom 895 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: Pill with SiO Ian Rappaport, Mike Gira Follo with you. 896 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: We had a big show on this show. Coming up 897 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Jeremiah Owusu Coromoa, the Browns linebacker who just 898 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: got paid. 899 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 2: He's going to join us live. 900 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: Also, Michael f Florio gonna be here with some must 901 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: haves for your fantasy draft. Ian, do you got a 902 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: one burning question you want to ask Mike? 903 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 3: I want to know how we ranks the rookie quarterbacks 904 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 3: should I draft? When I got a keeper league. These 905 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 3: are huge picks to send me here for the next decade. 906 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 4: I need all the INFI. 907 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: I would think you'd want to draft as many as 908 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: possible right here. 909 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 5: Follow Uh, yeah, as many. What I don't know somebody 910 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 5: was talking about here. I want to know whether his 911 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 5: next tattoo is going to be and would it be 912 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 5: a punishment for a fantasy football Maybe. 913 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 4: My tattoo goodbye be here tomorrow. 914 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 14: H