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Speaker 2: Raccoons aren't known for having refined palettes, but in Germany

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Speaker 2: at least the masked bandits have developed a taste for

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Speaker 2: some of the world's best beer. Can't blame them for that.

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Speaker 2: According to several German and British newspapers, raccoons have been

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Speaker 2: breaking into homes and cities throughout Deutschland, damaging property, eating

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Speaker 2: petfish and rabbits, and even drinking beer. Some homeowners have

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Speaker 2: reported over ten thousand dollars in damages, and one raccoon

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Speaker 2: was caught on video evading animal control outside the German

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Speaker 2: Parliament building. The German word for raccoon is vashbar, which

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Speaker 2: translates literally to the bear that walks and undoubtedly has

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Speaker 2: a slang meaning that we are not aware of. Be

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Speaker 2: careful when you google that one kids. Vashbar likely comes

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Speaker 2: from the common raccoon behavior of picking up food items

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Speaker 2: at the water's edge and washing them between their paws.

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Speaker 2: Raccoons are not native to Europe, but their populations have

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Speaker 2: been increasing in recent decades. One German newspaper described them

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Speaker 2: as a plague, and an estimated one thousand raccoons live

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Speaker 2: in Berlin alone. They've been spotted residing in boarding buses

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Speaker 2: and state high schools, as well as scavenging in the

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Speaker 2: city's allotment gardens. Germans should be forgiven for seeing something

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Speaker 2: sinister in these fuzzy invaders. According to urban legend, raccoons

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Speaker 2: were introduced to the country by none other than Hammond Goring,

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Speaker 2: who is you know, a horrid, horrid history figure. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: history buffs will recognize that name as belonging to the

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Speaker 2: founder of the Gestapo. His lesser known title was the

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Speaker 2: Master of the Hunt for the Third Reich, and he

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Speaker 2: led released the animals to hunt them for their fur.

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Speaker 2: Historians have disputed this account, but blaming nazis as totally

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Speaker 2: fine by me anyway. Speaking of hunting, the German National

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Speaker 2: Hunting Association says it's trying to control the surging population

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Speaker 2: and has killed a record two hundred thousand raccoons over

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Speaker 2: the course of the past year. Their efforts in Berlin

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Speaker 2: were stymied, however, when the city's Senate banned raccoon hunting

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Speaker 2: and instead encouraged residents to lock up their trash. As

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Speaker 2: with most controversies like this, I ask why not both?

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Speaker 2: This week We've got the Washington State Game Commission, public

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Speaker 2: lands and the ever popular Crime Desk. But first, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to tell you about my week, and my week

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Speaker 2: was super interesting. Flew out to Memphis in order to

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Speaker 2: join Ducks Unlimited for their annual live briefing around the

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Speaker 2: US Fishing Wildlife Breeding Survey. This particular survey has been

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Speaker 2: running since nineteen fifty five, and, to use the words

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Speaker 2: of the US Fish and Wildlife Service, the primary purpose

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Speaker 2: of the Waterfowl Breeding Population and Habitat Survey, which of

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Speaker 2: course is an acronym WBPH, is to provide information on

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Speaker 2: spring population size and trends for most North American duck species,

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Speaker 2: several populations of Canada geese, tundraswans, and American coot and

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Speaker 2: to evaluate breeding habitat conditions. This survey helps to guide

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Speaker 2: waterfowl management ie are yearly waterfowl regulations and habitat management.

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Speaker 2: The survey is conducted by airplane, helicopter, and ground over

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Speaker 2: a two million square mile area that covers principal breeding areas.

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Speaker 2: A couple of really interesting takeaways, of course, and all

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Speaker 2: of this is on the Ducks Unlimited YouTube channel as

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Speaker 2: well as the Ducks Unlimited Canada YouTube channel, But all

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Speaker 2: of these takeaways just reinforce the value of habitat. One

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Speaker 2: of these takeaways, for instance, is that water is only

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Speaker 2: a component. If an intermitt wetland, which as we all know,

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Speaker 2: is only sometimes wet but vital to the survival of hatchlings,

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Speaker 2: is tilled in the course of farming practices and then

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Speaker 2: fills with water, it doesn't a produce the food or

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Speaker 2: be produce the cover for birds to survive, so they

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Speaker 2: won't use it. However, that water will activate the riparian

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Speaker 2: plant seeds that are found in the seed bank in

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Speaker 2: that wet area, which is just a mud puddle at

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Speaker 2: this point, will eventually return to productive waterfowl production. But boy,

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Speaker 2: would it be better if those areas were allowed to

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Speaker 2: do their thing. Lots of programs that can help restore

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Speaker 2: these areas on your farmer ranch through the NRCS, the

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Speaker 2: Farm Bill, and state level programs. So on top of

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Speaker 2: the monetary incentives, you get the mental incentives of managing

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Speaker 2: your property in a way that produces waterfowl, wildlife, pollinators,

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Speaker 2: get out there and fire up the combine. Numbers. Wise,

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Speaker 2: and this is speaking very generally, we are going to

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Speaker 2: see a fine waterfowl season. We have some marginal drops

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Speaker 2: and breeding populations of species, and marginal gains, including an

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Speaker 2: over twenty percent jump in surveyed pintail pairs. And what

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Speaker 2: have survived fat enough to make the flight down to

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Speaker 2: see us from the northern tips of our flyways to

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you how this information impacts old Snorticus, and

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Speaker 2: I it won't. We are hunters. We will be out

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Speaker 2: as much as possible. If we see very few of

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Speaker 2: won't try to pound on that species. We'll try to

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Speaker 2: take limits of other species that seem to be in abundance,

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Speaker 2: like gadwall, which is a darned tasty duck. As our

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Speaker 2: late season northern shovelers, both of whom or which are

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Speaker 2: reporting great numbers. You know what, I'm getting excited, so

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Speaker 2: excited by the way, I'm heading to our Low Gallaton

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Speaker 2: Valley Ducks Unlimited banquet this evening. Probably gonna spend money

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Speaker 2: I don't have on raffles, just like everybody else anyway, Last,

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Speaker 2: but not least, thank you so much for sharing our

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Speaker 2: auction house of oodities for the Wildcat Bend Public Access

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Speaker 2: project we chose for this year's land Access Initiative. Final

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Speaker 2: numbers are not quite in, but even if you could

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Speaker 2: not contribute a dollar to the LAI project this year,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you spread the word on social media and

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Speaker 2: that helps a ton two. I cannot thank you enough

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Speaker 2: Access Man more Land gotta have it for the future.

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Speaker 2: Another great example of our community raising each other up.

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Speaker 2: Gives me warm and fuzzies inside. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: more to come on this, but we better get on

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Speaker 2: with the news. Washington State hunters were understandably up in

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Speaker 2: arms last week when one of the members of the

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Speaker 2: state's Fish and Game Commission said that hunter's quote should

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Speaker 2: be nervous. You may have already heard that clip, but

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Speaker 2: I want to play Commissioner Melanie Rowland's comment in context.

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Speaker 2: While she pays lip service to serving the needs of hunters,

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Speaker 2: she also exemplifies the nationwide movement to marginalize hunters and

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Speaker 3: Take a listen at this point. We have a very

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Speaker 3: significant portion of the public who want the Department of

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Speaker 3: Fish and Wildlife to be conserving, protecting, perpetuating, and yes, preserving,

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Speaker 3: because that's in our statue. We're following the law and

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Speaker 3: the law requires us to do that. And yes, you

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Speaker 3: can interpret those words. They don't all have exactly the

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Speaker 3: same meaning, but they are our statutory responsibilities, and there

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Speaker 3: are many of us who believe that the Commission and

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Speaker 3: the Department have not been fulfilling those statutory responsibilities when

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Speaker 3: the basic focus and the basic constituency is hunters and fishers.

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Speaker 3: That is not to say there is no room for

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Speaker 3: manage it, and we are directed to manage it that way.

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Speaker 3: So I understand that the hunters of fishers could be

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Speaker 3: getting nervous, and I think they should be getting nervous

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Speaker 3: because they have been pretty much in complete control for

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Speaker 2: This has been a debate in wildlife policy circles for

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Speaker 2: many years, but it's coming to a head. In Washington State,

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Speaker 2: the Commission will be voting later this year on charges

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Speaker 2: to its conservation policy that many believe will open the

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Speaker 2: door to further restrictions on hunting and angling in the state.

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Speaker 2: The Commission has repeatedly canceled the state's spring black bear hunt,

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Speaker 2: despite a total lack of evidence that the spring hunt

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Speaker 2: present any threat to the population. They made this decision

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Speaker 2: based largely on the mindset Rowland articulates, rather than maximizing

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Speaker 2: hunting opportunities, the Commission should consider the thoughts and feelings

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Speaker 2: of the non hunting public when making its decisions. Because

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Speaker 2: anti hunting activists are often the loudest voices among that

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Speaker 2: non hunting public, Some commissioners believe they had a responsibility

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Speaker 2: to cancel the spring hunt even though the science didn't

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Speaker 2: demand it. At least that's how I read this situation,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not alone. Justin's rule volunteers with the Backcountry

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Speaker 2: Hunters and Anglers Armed Forces Initiative or AFI, and he

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Speaker 2: urged the Commission to reject rolland stance and maximize hunting opportunities,

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Speaker 2: especially for veterans.

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Speaker 4: Some of our veterans are fighting a game of inches,

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Speaker 4: and I, for one want to give them every advantage

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Speaker 4: that I can. When you reduce or close seasons for

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Speaker 4: reasons that are knocked back by science, you take away

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Speaker 4: one more tool that my team or a veteran has

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Speaker 4: when using out doors for adjunct therapy. A government agency

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Speaker 4: telling my members that they should be nervous when they're

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Speaker 4: now back home and trying to readjust and finding a

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Speaker 4: in my mind, is unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: Great quote. I would love to have Commissioner Rowland on

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Speaker 2: the podcast to give her the opportunity to clarify her comments.

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Speaker 2: Would she consider herself anti hunting? Does she plan to

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Speaker 2: limit hunting opportunities even though our wildlife populations can sustain them.

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Speaker 2: If she doesn't want to listen to hunters anymore, who

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Speaker 2: does she want to listen to instead. I've reached out

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Speaker 2: If anyone knows how I can get in touch with

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Speaker 2: one of the commissioners, send me a note at askcal

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Speaker 2: at the meaeater dot com. This is one of the

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Speaker 2: most serious threats we're facing as hunters and anglers, and

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Speaker 2: I guarantee this won't be the last time we touch

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Speaker 2: on this topic. If you live in Washington State, now

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Speaker 2: is the time to get involved. The Commission will be

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Speaker 2: voting later this year on the new conservation plan, and

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Speaker 2: it's crucial you speak up and let them know that

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Speaker 2: you don't want hunters and anglers marginalized. I'll keep you

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Speaker 2: posted on those meeting times and let you know about

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Speaker 2: ways to comment. Moving on to the crime desk, wildlife

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Speaker 2: criminals often escape jail time, but every once in a

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Speaker 2: while they get what they deserve. This week saw several

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Speaker 2: cases that landed poachers behind bars. In Wisconsin. For example,

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Speaker 2: a forty one year old man named Eric Fevel we'll

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Speaker 2: spend five years in the clink for what one prosecutor

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Speaker 2: called the biggest poaching case in the state of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Fevil and his partner, a man named Travis vander Heyden,

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Speaker 2: poached more than thirty deers since twenty nineteen. They spotlighted

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Speaker 2: the deer at night and usually shot them with a crossbow.

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Speaker 2: Game wardens first approached the pair after getting tipped off

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Speaker 2: about a decapitated buck that had been left in a field.

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Speaker 2: They pulled the men over after finding them driving around

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Speaker 2: slowly at night, and the dynamic duo eventually admit to

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Speaker 2: their crimes. Fevil's lawyers said he first joined vander Heyden

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Speaker 2: because he needed food, but he continued with his crimes

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Speaker 2: because he was quote fueled by greed. His plea deal

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Speaker 2: got forty five of his fifty one charges dismissed, but

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Speaker 2: he was still hit with nearly ten thousand dollars in

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Speaker 2: fines and a lifetime revocation of his hunting license along

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Speaker 2: with prison time. His partner is another story. Vander Heyden

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Speaker 2: high tailed it to Texas as soon as he was charged,

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Speaker 2: and he hasn't returned to face the music. Wisconsin can't

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Speaker 2: extra didem because he isn't being charged with any felonies,

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Speaker 2: but it's safe to say won't be going to any

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Speaker 2: He's allegedly hiding out in the Texas Panhandle town of Pampa.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Andrew Whitman for sending us that story. Our

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Speaker 2: next jumpsuit wearing poacher is headed to jail for two

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Speaker 2: years for poaching abalony and possessing fentanyl. Fifty eight year

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Speaker 2: old Leroy Nichols Robles of Santa Barbara, California, admitted to

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Speaker 2: related to public access of navigable waterways. Rice owns a

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