1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: Welcome to Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: a Toyota Dealers, Cameron Rwinmarco Farr, Maurice Jones Drew. As 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: we get set for week eleven, guys, this is gonna 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: be great. We're gonna take a look back at the 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Rams pick up win over one rival as we prepare 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: for Seattle, another rival. 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: From one to the next. Hi, you guys feel it. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: I'm good. 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 4: We can stay in that win for a while. Now, 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 4: let's just listen. Who are you telling? Ny DeMarco. I 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 4: felt like I was just you know, forty two points 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 4: and I walked either there with my chest out, my head, 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 4: hell high. I flew down to La went to work 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 4: at the network. You got to see it over again, 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 4: you know. Then I went home, made sent a couple 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 4: of text message out to some people. Hey, how are 17 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 4: you feeling? Of course, not good, awesome, glad that you're 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 4: you know. 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: It was fun. It meant a lot. 20 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 5: It meant a lot for the fan bases for up 21 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 5: there down here. I meant a lot for this football 22 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 5: team to go up there and kind of right that 23 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 5: wrong that you let get away here for On Thursday 24 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 5: night in Sofi so to go up there and put 25 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 5: forty two points on him and absolutely dominate the football game, 26 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 5: it meant a lot. And it also meant that you 27 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 5: got ahead of the forty nine ers, which was so 28 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 5: important because this NFC race that's coming down the stretch, 29 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 5: it kind of built up to this game this Sunday 30 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 5: at so Far with the Seahawks. But yeah, a lot 31 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 5: of fun seeing Matthew Stafford do Matthew Stafford things. 32 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: Shimmy, shimmy, not to say we're gonna get into the shimmy. 33 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 5: And to see people going up the aisle. Oh yeah 34 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 5: before the game was over. Yeah, I mean that's that 35 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 5: was the moment for me. Yeah, I didn't say goodbye. 36 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 5: I just kind of watched them leave. 37 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: It was fun. 38 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: You just slow was just looking back, go ahead. 39 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we really wanted to set this scene. So 40 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: what what a better place than right here at the 41 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: Toyota patio at SOFI. Guys, before we look ahead to Seattle. 42 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: You talked about Matthew Stafford. The shimmy was just superb. 43 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: But he's been superb all season long, actually since Week four. 44 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: Twenty touchdowns, zero interceptions. The MVP conversations only grew after 45 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: last week, and actually I was going through the search engine. 46 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: Just type in Matthew Stafford. It doesn't say Matthew Stafford search, 47 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: it's Matthew Stafford MVP search. It's the first thing that 48 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: comes up. How much better is this case? 49 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: Now? 50 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: That's pretty cool, man. 51 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 5: I mean, I think the only way I could sum 52 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 5: it up because he deserves everything and all the attention 53 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 5: that he's getting because he's playing on a whole nother level. 54 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 5: The things he's doing to manipulate defenses with his eyes, 55 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 5: with his head is unreal. And JB said something I 56 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 5: thought was kind of funny. I think the horns on 57 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 5: the helmet kind of benefit him because he moves people 58 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 5: and he's going back this way. So the stuff he's 59 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 5: doing is you'll be talking about it long after he retires, 60 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 5: because this is stuff quarterbacks are going to be asked 61 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 5: to do from this point forward because of what he's 62 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 5: doing right now. But I think I could sum it 63 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 5: up this way. Maurice, it's his time. When you think 64 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 5: about where he came from in Detroit, and he was 65 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 5: great there. The only problem was Aaron Rodgers was in 66 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 5: the same division. So now he stands alone. He's in 67 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 5: the West, he's got a first place team, they're playing, well, 68 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 5: it's his time to be talked about in the MVP. 69 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, to me, it's a perfect marriage. I think 70 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 4: when you put Sean McVay and the offense that he 71 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 4: came in with, the one that we saw with Jared 72 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: Golf and how it was so all these numbers and 73 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 4: stats are gonna put and put up, and then that 74 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 4: leaves and then it was kind of like trying to navigate, Okay, 75 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 4: how can we do this same offense with Matthew Stafford. 76 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 4: I think this year is the year, right, this year, 77 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: you're seeing all the work that they've put in, all 78 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 4: the time they've learned each other, all the different things 79 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: they want to do. And you see the bootlegs. We 80 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 4: didn't see a lot of bootlegs the last couple of years. 81 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: Those bootlegs, it just makes it easier for the quarterback 82 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: not to think it's half field. Reeves guys are right 83 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: in front of it. You see the athletic Look, no 84 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 4: he doesn't, he's running. And then when we need you 85 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: to be Matthew Stafford on third and eight and we 86 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: need you to rip a deep into to DeVante Adams, 87 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: you have that in your bag, and so to me, 88 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: I just feel like he's so much more comfortable under center, 89 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: so much more comfortable in this offense that he doesn't 90 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: have to think. Right. It's just like I know exactly 91 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: where I'm going with this place because I've seen this defense, 92 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: I know what they're gonna run against this call. I 93 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: have all this experience and then there's answers to every 94 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: question in every play. And so he's he's been i 95 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 4: would say, batting in like ninety eight percent, Like he's 96 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: passing these tests at ninety eight nine nine. And that's 97 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: what you're seeing right again. He understands where the ball 98 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: is supposed to be when it's supposed to be there, 99 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: and everyone's kind of on the same page. 100 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned the bootleg, and it was interesting because 101 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: that's one of the plays that really stood out to 102 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: me from last week was the touchdown to Davis al 103 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: on that exact play where he extended it. You could 104 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: dissect any part of his game right now when of 105 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: be coming up green lights, green lights, how dangerous has 106 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: he become those specifically in the red zone and utilizing 107 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: so many different weapons. 108 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: I think they have. 109 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 5: That's the funny thing I was just when you were 110 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 5: talking about everything about Matthew staffordm like, it's it's not 111 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 5: like he's out there by himself. He's got some weapons, 112 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 5: he's got some players. Pooka's out there, DeVante's out there. 113 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 5: These tight ends have come into their own and the 114 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 5: run game and the old line I've really come into 115 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 5: the room. But yeah, I think for me, I mean 116 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 5: asking questions about them and to the offense, like why 117 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 5: is it clicking now? And they bring up the Baltimore 118 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 5: trip they talk about they just it's a mindset in 119 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 5: the red zone now. When they get into the red 120 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 5: zone they feel like they have to score and their 121 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 5: focus kind of narrows. That's the stuff you want to 122 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 5: hear coming out of an office. I think that's been 123 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: the difference in the red zone. 124 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think the other part of the 125 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: red zone is the play calls. To be honest, I 126 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: mean it's not just straight drop back five guys running 127 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 4: routes right, it's play action pass their screen game involved 128 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: in the red zone in certain situations they're running the 129 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: football right. And so again, to me, I don't know 130 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 4: where it clicked. I think it is that Baltimore trip 131 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: where kind of all came together. 132 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 5: I think it's the tight ends, man, Yeah, I do. 133 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 5: I think it's the emergence of the tight end. 134 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: But I think again, how many times we've asked for 135 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 4: those tight ends over the years, right, And it's just 136 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 4: that now this offense is complete. You have four tight ends, 137 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 4: you have two running backs, you have five wide receivers, 138 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: you have a quarterback that's spreading the ball around. The 139 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 4: offensive line is healthy, and you're able to marry running 140 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 4: pass together and so that that's hard for any defense. 141 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: And it brings me back to when I used to 142 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 4: play against the Houston Texas when Kyle Shanahan's there had 143 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: Matthew shop right, and Matthew shop I used to tell 144 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: you all the time, like playing against him was one 145 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 4: of the hardest things because he had answers and he 146 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 4: was smart. Yeah, he didn't have the same arm talent 147 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: as Matthew Stafford. But when you put when you drop 148 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: a guy with that arm talent and that intelligence into 149 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 4: this offense, oh my, yeah, you should score every time 150 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 4: you're in the red. 151 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: Zone's Matt shop There's only one Matthew Stafford. 152 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 4: Matt Matthew staff whatever. 153 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: Less respect talking about versatility. Four different players caught a 154 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 1: touchdown pass from Stafford this last week, Alan Parkinson, Nkoua, 155 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: and Adams. Not to mention the two rushing from Kyra 156 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: and Williams. You mentioned a little bit of the tight 157 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: ends thirteen personnel. Thirty of the sixty seven snaps from 158 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: last week were in thirteen personnel. What kind of strain 159 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: does that put in terms of a defense on the 160 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: other side? 161 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: He laughs, He's like, that's Bruce. 162 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: Shawn's getting a little greedy. Now go back to eleven 163 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 4: personnel a little bit. 164 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 5: Let's slow down, but shout out to the giraffe, Corey 165 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 5: Kolbe Parkinson for the way he's rebounded from last year. 166 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: Last year was rough for him. It just did not click. 167 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: This year. 168 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 5: He's been a different guy. And the thing that I 169 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: noticed most is his toughness. I mean, he has taken 170 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 5: some shots bam gets right back up back to the huddle. 171 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 5: So that tells me there's competition in the room. That 172 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 5: tells me there's a new intensity. Scott huff is their 173 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 5: their tight ends coach. I knew him from you dub 174 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 5: an O line coach, so you kind of implement that 175 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 5: O line kind of mentality to a tight end, right, 176 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 5: A very athletic group, a very different group. They do 177 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 5: so many different things and they work well together. U. 178 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 5: That to me has been the difference in the red 179 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 5: zone and the difference with this offense right now. But yeah, 180 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 5: having Higbee back is another thing. Give him his his 181 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 5: flowers too. 182 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: Uh. 183 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 5: This this offense that we talk about, it's all he knows. 184 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 5: This is the only offense he's run. So having him 185 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 5: back in the room is only going to help the group. 186 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 5: And then I think the rock star of the of 187 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 5: the thing or the potential is t Ferg. Yeah, he's 188 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 5: the receiver of the bunch. So depending on which three 189 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 5: of the four you see on the field will give 190 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 5: defenses just absolute nightmares. 191 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: And you didn't say anything about David s Allen, who 192 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 4: has three. 193 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: T R Yeah. 194 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 4: Well, this is what I will say. When you have 195 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 4: a vision, right, and it's it rarely comes true. But 196 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: when you have a vision for guys right on your roster, 197 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: on your team, you're saying, Okay, this is what I 198 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: expect out of this group. We're seeing that from the 199 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: Rams tight end group, right. This is the vision that 200 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 4: Sean and less Need had when they drafted t Ferg 201 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: and they're like, we're gonna put some youth in here, 202 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: to put some competition in to get some guys going. 203 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: And sometimes competition makes guys shut it down, and sometimes 204 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: it makes you raise your game a little bit. And 205 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 4: that we're seeing the ladder of that, which is, you know, again, 206 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: tight ends showing up guys making plays. When you catch 207 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 4: the ball, you're seeing them seek it and turn and 208 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: look for contact and try to scot like because you 209 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 4: never know. And that's I've always I actually had this call. 210 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 4: I had to talk with the Daily Bruin called last 211 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 4: year this thing and they were asking about, you know 212 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 4: what my time at UCLA was like. And I remember 213 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 4: going to U slay there was ten running backs, right, 214 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 4: so if you fumbled, you had to get back into 215 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 4: the back of the line. I was like, hey, like, like, 216 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: I like touching the football, So when I get my opportunity, 217 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna make the most of it every time. And 218 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: that's what you're seeing in this tight end room is 219 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: when my numbers called that players for me. T Ferg 220 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: is out here trying to make catches. The first play 221 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 4: against the Niners was a fade ball or a wheel 222 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: route and Stafford gave him an opportunity, and I said, 223 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: I love that to let you know, like regards if 224 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: he's covered or not, we're gonna throw him the ball. 225 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, David Allen shout out to you too. 226 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 4: I did. 227 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 3: I didn't forget you, and I was just talking too much. 228 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 4: And then I want to put this in about the 229 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 4: last little bit about the red zone. It's hard when 230 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 4: you have to cover Davante Adams on a fade or 231 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 4: a slant, but then you have to worry about our 232 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 4: tight ends and the flat and play action and the 233 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 4: running game and this. And you saw that with the Niners. 234 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: It was too much for them to think about and like, 235 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: so you can't cover Davante one on one, but that's 236 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 4: so when you did, it was a touchdown. You saw 237 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: that in the game, right when you did, when you 238 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: double team them, they ran the ball or play action 239 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: pass somewhere else, right, And so it just it's so 240 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: hard for a defense to have to cover the whole 241 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: field and five guys and make sure that you have 242 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 4: It just doesn't work. 243 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 5: That way with a pitching machine of a quarterback, right, 244 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 5: and all he has to do is get open and 245 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 5: the ball is going to be on him. 246 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how you stopped that. 247 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: This current iteration of the rams of rams offense. Is 248 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: this the most diversified offense under mcpagh that you've seen? 249 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: I think so. 250 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 5: This is what we've been hoping waiting for. Because he came, 251 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 5: he took the job as kind of a tight end guru. Well, 252 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 5: now you've got a group of guys where he can 253 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 5: work his magic and manipulate defenses. And if the defense 254 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 5: has a pretty good day, you still got to deal 255 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 5: with these. 256 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: Guys out wide. 257 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 5: I can just dump the ball off and spam it 258 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 5: to them and move it and a pretty good running game. 259 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 5: So it I think it could be. I think it 260 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 5: could be the best offense we've seen. 261 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, let's switch it a little bit. Let's 262 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: look to the defensive side of the ball. Now, Rahams 263 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: have been opportunistic to this point, especially in their run defense. 264 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: What have you seen in terms of growth from that unit? 265 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: What are you laughing about? 266 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 4: Go ahead. 267 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: Question? Who comes to mind? 268 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 4: We were leaving the game and this guy walks by 269 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 4: me and I'm like, man like, who is that? Oh? 270 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: Let's puna forward? Were about the same size height at 271 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 4: least and I'm like and I'm like you, I'm like, dude, like, 272 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 4: there's no way that this guy is over here throwing 273 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 4: around three hundred pounds. He wouldn't. You wouldn't recognize that, right, 274 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: Like you know, they used to say big things come 275 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: in small package, And that's what he's doing. He's being 276 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 4: able to cover a gap to a gap or B 277 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: gap to B gap, and that allows everyone else to 278 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 4: do their job. And I think that was one of 279 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: the reasons last year the Rams had trouble. They couldn't 280 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 4: control that the interior gaps. And so you have a 281 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: guy like him that can get under the center, dominate 282 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 4: a gap to a gap, get penetration in the run 283 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 4: game or the passing game, excuse me, and collapse the 284 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: pocket all of a sudden. Now your linebackers can just roam, 285 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 4: they're flying around, guys are getting and it just having 286 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: that nose in the three four defense is so pivotal 287 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: to making this like the spine of this defense has 288 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: been fixed and they're able to run well. 289 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 5: I'll say this, like last year's defense, they couldn't do 290 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 5: it consistently. This year they are doing it more consistently, 291 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 5: and I think it's because of his emergence or his 292 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 5: his the fact that he's here and I'm happy that. 293 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 5: You know, dudes that are under six feet are actually 294 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 5: having a shot to play in the NFL. My god, 295 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 5: and he's absolutely killing him. Here's the thing. He's slamming bodies, 296 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 5: whether he's making the play or not. That's how you 297 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 5: know he's wrecking shop. Anybody that's on him that has 298 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 5: to block him. First of all, it's a balanced breakfast 299 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 5: and you got to play snap the whistle because he 300 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 5: ain't gonna quit. And the minute you stop, he's gonna 301 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 5: pick you up and throw you. That's the type of 302 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 5: d line. That's the type of guy that just reeks 303 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 5: havoc in the middle and then shout out to the conductor. 304 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 5: Kobe Turner, who I think might be the best all 305 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 5: around guy on this football team, can play tough, could 306 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 5: be a run thug when needed. When it's a pass rush, 307 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 5: straighten out and get right to the quarterback in a blink. 308 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 5: So in the middle, they've done great. On the edges. 309 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 5: My goodness, I wouldn't want to play against your adverse. No, 310 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 5: even if he doesn't beat you, he's gonna beat you up. 311 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 5: I mean, regardless and Byron Young's having a fantastic gear. 312 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think this defense as a whole has 313 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 5: been very, very consistent stopping the run, earning the right 314 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 5: the rest of the passage. 315 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: And let me say this too, there's one play in 316 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 4: the Niners game that I think people It was a 317 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: touchdown by Brian Robinson, but people are like, oh, but 318 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 4: why would you highlight that? Well Landman comes Scott Free 319 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 4: on the goal line to make the play right like 320 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 4: that clean? That never happens because as an offensive players like, 321 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 4: we gotta get up on those linebackers down there. We're 322 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 4: not just tacking it on double teams. We're getting but 323 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: moving guys. But those guys have been so dominant up 324 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 4: front that you gave your linebacker a clean shot and 325 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 4: you just again this NFL. People make plays. But to 326 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 4: see that, I was like, Oh, this defensive line is 327 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 4: I said, hororizing people. Great play him, Yeah, because that's 328 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: the defensive scheme. You get a middle linebacker on a 329 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 4: running back in the backfield. Yeah, you're supposed to drop him. Yell. 330 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: You know. 331 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: Anytime I got a chance to be on this show, 332 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: it seems as if I want to talk about Nate 333 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: Landman because he has just been phenomenal. Now three forced 334 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: fumbles on the year, and by the way, Jared Versus 335 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: also at that mark. That's just one blow. The league 336 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: lead at four in total. What's been his effects? 337 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 5: I think Verse just talks the ball out of Yeah, 338 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 5: fust ball comes out. But you know, I call it 339 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 5: force fumbles or strips. I mean when you call it 340 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 5: punch outs. 341 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 3: I just hate this. 342 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 5: Some people may say, oh, we can't be punching at 343 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 5: the ball, and they'll make that illegal, you know what 344 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 5: I mean, we can't be fisting at the ball, hitting 345 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 5: this stuff. But no, he's doing a great job of 346 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 5: getting the ball out and it's just that split second 347 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 5: and it comes with timing and knowing and trusting your personnel. 348 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 5: He's where he needs to be. He cuts off the football, 349 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 5: he's in great position to make the tackle. So when 350 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 5: Maurice Jones, Drew goes to lean in for a routine 351 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 5: hit and he just relaxes for a half second, Bam, 352 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 5: time to. 353 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 4: Hit the football. 354 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 5: Only certain guys have the guts to even try that 355 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 5: because if you miss, he's out the back door. So 356 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 5: he's a he's a heck of a linebacker. He's a 357 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 5: heck of a leader, and you could tell he's like 358 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 5: the heart and soul of his defense. 359 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: Well, i'll tell you this too, is his football intelligence. 360 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: He understands that it's the guy that you don't see 361 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: with the running back. Right, there's been somewhere a guy's 362 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 4: looking at him. He's bunching the ball out, but a 363 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: lot of his ones are you're not seeing him. And 364 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: then you know that again, you're trying to break tackles 365 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: and you get like this and all of a sudden, 366 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: it's just you know, an upper cut or a right 367 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 4: jab or whatever it may be to the ball. But 368 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: he's ball aware that and there's it's it's hard to 369 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: explain that that type of I guess terminology. But there's 370 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: some people that are great tacklers. Yeah, Bobby Wagner's a 371 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 4: terrific tackler, makes all the time. There's certain people that 372 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: cause turnovers, right, It's like corners like Jalen Ramsey was 373 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: a cover guy, wasn't necessarily an interception guy. He was 374 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 4: a great cover, shuts you down guy. But then there 375 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: are certain guys they just get picks right, like they 376 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 4: give it plays. But you know what, it's fifty to fifty. 377 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 4: He may take that thing to the house too. So 378 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 4: it's just he's just a ball aware guy. He's always 379 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 4: aware where the ball is, how the guy's holding the ball. 380 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: And then another one again in a crucial situation where 381 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 4: the Niners are driving down to punch that ball out 382 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 4: and the Rams go down and score was it was huge. 383 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: Knuckles on leather, right, that's what he's looking for. 384 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: Knuckles. 385 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a fine right, the punch the strip strip. 386 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 4: There you go. 387 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: We also have to give a nod to Emmanuel Forbes. 388 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: Second straight game now where he's come away with an interception. 389 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: Just how much better are you seeing him play right now? 390 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 5: You can tell the confidence is growing. Shout out to 391 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 5: the coaching staff working with him and the weight room. 392 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 5: He's he's a lot bigger than the first time we 393 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 5: saw him. You saw him when he walked. 394 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: Through the door. I mean, listen, he ate a hamburger 395 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 4: and but a lot big. I mean the first time 396 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: we saw him. 397 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 5: Jesus, He's he's he's he's bigger, he's playing bigger, he's 398 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 5: covering better, he's attacking the football and the stuff. I like, 399 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 5: you know me, I like the way he plays the run, Yeah, 400 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 5: because they will leave him unblocked. Go block the safety 401 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 5: and force those corners to make tackles because they know 402 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 5: they can't. He has answered the bell each and every 403 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 5: week on that. You gotta respect him. 404 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 4: I think what you said best is what he did 405 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: this offseason, right. He put the time in this offseason 406 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 4: to get stronger, get bigger, put on more muscle, and 407 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 4: then to be able to do those things right, to 408 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 4: be able to go in there and and and put 409 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: you know, your shoulder pads on a running back. And 410 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 4: I love the fact that he doesn't shy away from it. 411 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 4: He fits in his gap in the run game. He 412 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 4: may get ran over, he may the guy may be bigger, stronger, 413 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 4: but he's going in there to do it. And then 414 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: when you stop the run, it's just like it's just 415 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 4: like defensive line. When you earn the right to get interceptions, right, 416 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: when you earn the right to be put in a 417 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 4: situation where the quarterback has to get the ball out 418 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 4: quitting a known passing situation, you have opportunities to jump 419 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 4: the jump passes. And and again it was the pressure 420 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: caused by well when it was the pressure stopping the 421 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: run early in this game. Then the defensive line got 422 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 4: pressure on Mac Jones has to get the ball quick 423 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 4: and you have your eyes for your need to be 424 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: you're able to make a play, and that's what you're 425 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 4: looking for. Right, That's what he did it at what 426 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 4: he was at Mississippi State, Right, Yeah, that's what he 427 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 4: did there, and and and again that's why he was 428 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 4: drafted in the first round. You're starting to see that 429 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: though now and again. I think a lot of it 430 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 4: comes to being in the same system, being around the 431 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 4: same guys, understanding what they're looking for in certain situations, 432 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 4: knowing when you can be aggressive when you can't, and 433 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 4: then being able to compete too, because again, competition brings 434 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 4: the best out of everybody, and so having guys get 435 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 4: traded to come back here or guys getting healthy, it's 436 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 4: something that you're looking. 437 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: For and have a really good defensive staff. 438 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, coach, I thought we weren't doing that, though, I'm 439 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 4: just saying I thought we weren't doing that. I got 440 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 4: we were trying to keep everybody from here. 441 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: Yes here, all right, guys, but one more unit to 442 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: touch on and that special teams. It feels like a 443 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: little bit of a reprieve this week, which is a 444 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: glorious thing. Harris and mevs making his NFL start, goes 445 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: sick for six on extra points. Also Jake McQuaid in 446 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: the mix as the snapper, just quickly touching on what 447 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: it stood out about that unit. 448 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 5: Okay, so being down there with him, I get the nickname, 449 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 5: I get it. Yeah, absolutely, But here's how it wents. 450 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 5: It's third on the list. 451 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: That's great. 452 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's perfect. 453 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 5: It needs to keep going further. We don't need to 454 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 5: talk about it, That's what I'm saying. I mean, I 455 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 5: think you're getting closed. I think everybody can exhale a 456 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 5: little bit. At least we did on game day. Let's 457 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 5: hope that carries over. But that's the point of it. 458 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 5: It's to me, it's never been about who's doing it. 459 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 5: Just as long as the ball goes through the upright. 460 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 5: Because this defense, this offense is playing at an elite 461 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 5: level and has a chance to ascend. That would stink 462 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 5: if that part of football would would hurt you and 463 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 5: keep you from where you want to go. 464 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. I believe in any journey that you take as 465 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 4: a football team, things are going to happen. You're gonna 466 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 4: have to be able to overcome some type of adversity, 467 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 4: and credit to the coaching staff of putting out a 468 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 4: competition and then making it a competition and saying, hey, 469 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 4: these guys won, We're gonna go see what they do. 470 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 5: I but I, Maurice, in all my years, I personally 471 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 5: have never seen that. I have to say that to 472 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 5: where you have a long snapper and a placekicker that's 473 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 5: on the field doing the job and the other two 474 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 5: guys are on the sideline staring at them. I've never 475 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 5: seen that. So that that is competition at its truest. 476 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 4: Form, and if you believe in competition, I mean there's 477 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 4: that's like that every week. Yeah, not just at that 478 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: position though, there's running backs. 479 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 5: A long snapper, any kicker. I thought that was like, Wow, 480 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: they're not messing around all right. 481 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: Time to fast forward, guys, we have a huge show 482 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: down here at SOFI on Sunday. Two teams both sitting 483 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: at seven and two, fighting for the divisional lead, both 484 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: on four game win streaks. Seattle has yet to lose 485 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: on the road this season. Also interesting as they're coming 486 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: in to so FI, just how big is this one? 487 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 4: I mean again, I think you I thought you played 488 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 4: an NFC West Championship game last week. I think you're 489 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 4: gonna do it again this week, Kim. This team is 490 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 4: built very similar to the Rams. Right. Their defensive line 491 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 4: is crazy different, but crazy really good. Offense is very 492 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 4: similar to what the Rams do, pretty much the exact same, 493 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 4: but they just do it out of twenty one personnel 494 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 4: and eleven personnel. And so I think you're gonna have 495 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 4: to find ways to slow them down early. They start fast, 496 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 4: they start very fast. If you can slow them down 497 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: early and put a little pressure on Sam Darnold, I 498 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: think that'll help out. But offensively, the only way to 499 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: do that is by protecting your quarterback. Right, you gotta 500 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: be able to run the football this week. You can't 501 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 4: drop back. You gotta be able to be efficient in 502 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: the running game and play action pass and take your shots. 503 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: How different is that defensive line? And why so you 504 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: just mentioned that they're bigger. 505 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 4: They're bigger, they're athletic like Leonard Williams. Is a problem, right, 506 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: You can't have a three hundred pounds d n out 507 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: there right. 508 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 5: Byron Murphy's yeah, is as quick as they come, and 509 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 5: he's kind of coming into his own. 510 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 4: And then you have Lawrence. Who's who's coming out as well? 511 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 4: Who's making plays? And they were twice last week. Yeah, 512 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 4: they're blitzing. 513 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: Lottery took it. 514 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 4: They're blitz in. They're doing all these different things and 515 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: they can still get pressure with four. It goes back 516 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 4: to when we were right before we went to London. 517 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: I watched them versus the Seahawks versus the Jaguars, and they, 518 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 4: I mean they demolished the doors. 519 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 5: Y Yes, absolutely, the good defense. They get after you, 520 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 5: Sam Darnold. I don't know how to explain this. I 521 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 5: want to say Jeff Gordon, but that doesn't do it 522 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 5: justice because he was actually a great driver. I mean, 523 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 5: I think they are good. I think he's been good 524 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 5: behind him. Last week they scored thirty five points before 525 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 5: the half. Right, boy just blew the doors off Arizona. 526 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 5: I think he turned the ball over three times. 527 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 4: He did. 528 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 5: That's what I mean. We don't talk about it. They're good. 529 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 5: He's good enough to run this offense. So I like 530 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 5: what you said. I think this offense is good. I 531 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 5: think their defense gets after you and special teams wise, 532 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 5: what it comes down to is who has the better 533 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 5: quarterback under center? Which quarterback is going to make the 534 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 5: fewest mistakes, So I would put all my stock in 535 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford. But same thing. If you let Seattle do 536 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 5: what they do offense, if you let them get the 537 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 5: run game going, so they have the benefit of play action, 538 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 5: you'll never catch him and they have the defense to 539 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 5: back you up. So same thing, same mentality with San Francisco. 540 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 5: You gotta land the first punch. You can't wait around 541 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 5: for them to establish momentum and then come back. You 542 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 5: have to establish and you have a. 543 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 4: Little bit of a revenge factor in there with Cooper 544 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 4: cup right, so that's gonna that's gonna be come into 545 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 4: play as well. But I will tell you this, if 546 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: I'm if I'm Chris Shula, the first person in this 547 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 4: offense I want to stop is js In. He can 548 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 4: he can't. He can't do anything against us, right. We 549 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 4: have to make them play left handed and either run 550 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 4: the football or throw to other players. But I can't 551 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 4: have js In going, you know, post and different things 552 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: like that. 553 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: This is where I have to argue with Maurice. I 554 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 3: think you can't cover him. 555 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 4: We have to. 556 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 5: You can't, That's what I mean. I think there's there's 557 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 5: no covering that guy. You can't cover receivers like that. 558 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 5: Which you have to do is get after Darnald. 559 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 4: But that's what But that's what I'm trying to Like, 560 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: we gotta slow him, at least make Darnald hitch one time. 561 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 5: Yes, I think you need to be letter perfect in 562 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 5: how you're covering him and be in position to make plays. 563 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 5: But if you think you got a guy to just 564 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 5: lock on him and that's gonna happen, never gonna listen. 565 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 4: We're gonna throw bodies at him. Like we talk about 566 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: we talk about certain positions we had trouble in the past. 567 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: We're gonna keep throwing bodies multiple multiple, Look okay hard 568 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 4: like a quick jam, you got help over the top. 569 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 4: Maybe we're gonna have a linebacker chip and when he's 570 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 4: in tight we just can't let him just run because 571 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 4: if you let him run, it's gonna be a brother. 572 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 5: Let's devote resources to going after Donald. See argument over, 573 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 5: So we're in the same page. 574 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 4: There we go. 575 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: Well, it also makes me think back to the wild 576 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: card last year. Nine sacks against Donald. Obviously a different 577 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: offense on the other side. But for Rams fans, I'm 578 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: gonna tell you or just general NFL fans, this is 579 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: a matchup you're gonna want to watch if you love 580 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: elite wide receiver play, because you're looking across the board. 581 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 1: You mentioned Jackson Smith and Jigba currently leading the NFL 582 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: right now with over one thousand yards, and then of 583 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: course we have our own Jackson Smith and Jigma Puka Nakua. 584 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: You can't forget about Devonte Adams, who I feel like 585 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: is currently a freight trade. He is only picking up momentum. 586 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: And of course the return of Cooper Cup here to 587 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: five stadium. So if you love elite wide receiver play, 588 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: this is the batchup you're gonna want to watch. 589 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: Not to mention the quarterback, well, you know. 590 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 5: I don't like elite receiver play. I like quarterbacks getting 591 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 5: hit very hard. 592 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: You do. 593 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: I like the defensive struggle. 594 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: And let me say this and I'll tell you this too, 595 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: that the Rams have had a lot of success with 596 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 4: this Seahawks offensive line. It hasn't changed right, and you've 597 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 4: had success in those situations. So I do I agree 598 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 4: with you. If you are gonna stop JSN, you have 599 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 4: to get pressure on Donald quickly. It brings you back 600 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 4: to Braiden face sack last year where it was like 601 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 4: a two second sack, like he beat the guard. I 602 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 4: think it was the right guard. He beat him in 603 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: two seconds, right, And so you know that you have 604 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 4: an advantage there. You just have to stop them on 605 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: first down. Now you're gonna say stop the run, like no, 606 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 4: they throw the ball on first down more than anyone 607 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 4: in the NFL. They they do play action passes on 608 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 4: first down. So you got to make sure that you're 609 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 4: you're prepared for that and you slow them down and 610 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 4: get him in those third longs. 611 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 5: Say his name again, Braiden Fisk, Yeah, Braid braid and Fisk, 612 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 5: Braiden Fisk. We need some braid and Fisk. Yeah, Braiden 613 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 5: Fisk can win this game. I'm not kidding. Braden Fisk 614 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 5: can win this game. You get interior pressure, game over, absolutely, 615 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 5: punchure the pocket game over, Yes, sir. 616 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: One unit we haven't discussed quite yet is the Rams 617 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: offensive line. They've allowed just fourteen sacks this season, that's 618 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: tied for fourth best. They're going to have to deal 619 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: with it again. You mentioned Seattle's a defensive line. What 620 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: have you seen from the Rams offensive line that gives 621 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: you confidence going to this one? 622 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: Uh, Okay. 623 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 5: First of all, I love how this offensive line I 624 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 5: guess is built. You got the veteran and Rob Havenstein, 625 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 5: you got the youth at left tackle. You got Alark 626 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 5: Jackson who doesn't say a word and we don't talk 627 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 5: much about which is perfect. And you've got Kevin Dotson 628 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 5: who is the demolition man right and the brain in 629 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 5: the middle with Colvin Shelton. So there's a play that 630 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 5: I think. This is my favorite play. This is the 631 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 5: one where Pooka scored. First of all, it was a 632 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 5: great block by Tyler Higbee. Yes, he gets too, springs 633 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 5: the block. Watch Rob Havenstein does his job, gets like 634 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 5: knocked to the ground on a heap, gets up, see 635 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 5: that they scored, goes and walk straight to the sideline. 636 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 5: Then rewind the tape and watch Steve Avolo all the 637 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 5: way into the end zone. He wants a part of 638 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 5: the celebration. That's what I mean. Yeah, youth experience. I'm 639 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 5: not gonna add fifty yards to my day. You can 640 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 5: go ahead, young man. But they're all playing well together. 641 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 5: They communicate well. All the problems that you thought about 642 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 5: last season with protection issues, knowing which way to slide, 643 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 5: there haven't been many busts this year. That's all because 644 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 5: of the veteran experience in Coleman Sheldon. But the way 645 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 5: they're coming together, they're starting to move people, not just 646 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 5: position block, so run and pass. They're hard to beat 647 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 5: around the corner and they can absolutely move you off 648 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 5: the stumps in the middle. So if you want to 649 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 5: know what's making this thing go outside of Stafford, it's 650 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 5: that old line. 651 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know if Ernest Jones is gonna play 652 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 4: this week or not, but I'll say the biggest thing 653 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 4: I see from the Rams offensive line is when they 654 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 4: double team. They're up on those linebackers right away. It's 655 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 4: not like, oh, we're gonna say that the line of 656 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: scrimmage and go. No, they're chipping and moving guys, and 657 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: they're getting up to the second level, which is opening 658 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 4: up these gaping holes. And even though the Rams aren't 659 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: running the ball like we've seen in the past, right now, 660 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 4: right the play action passes there. Because if I'm a 661 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 4: linebacker and I see any type of run action, I 662 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 4: have to beat that offensive lineman to the spot because 663 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 4: once he gets on me, it's over. And the Rams 664 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 4: have done such a great job of getting up to 665 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 4: the second level. That that alone is making those linebackers 666 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 4: over pursue or get out of position. And again, like 667 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 4: you said, Matthew Stafford, that that's what's allowing this, the scheme, 668 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: the way they're getting up to the second level, the 669 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 4: when they do run the ball, all that's allowing them 670 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 4: to protect. Matthew Stafford more. 671 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 3: They sell run pretty good, really good. 672 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 5: They're really in the mind of Sean McVay when he 673 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 5: draws you in to get passing lanes open. They sell 674 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 5: it really well. Those linebackers in safety believe it's run 675 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 5: and then it's too late. 676 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: Rams Rivalry game here at Sofi Stadium, we're going to 677 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: be in full midnight mode. 678 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 4: How sweet? 679 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, can't wait, can't wait. This is going to be fun. 680 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: Yes, but this is your chance to say a message 681 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: to the ramling about how impactful they could be in 682 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: this matchup. 683 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 3: Oh, be loud. 684 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 4: You know this. 685 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 5: I keep telling you this about people Jared Vers and 686 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 5: Byron Young, and they depend on you. The louder you get, 687 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 5: the more pre sure they get, the more we win. 688 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 5: And I thought La was the city of champions and whatnot, right, 689 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 5: So do your part. Be here and be loud. Look 690 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 5: I'll tell you this. That is their advantage up there. 691 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 5: It is deafening in Seattle. It's almost unfair. So I 692 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 5: think it's only right that you give it to them 693 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 5: and show them what it's like here in sofa and 694 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 5: try to blow the roof off this place. So, like 695 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 5: I said, I think the offense will give people something 696 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 5: to cheer about. Keep that same energy when the defense 697 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 5: is out there and drowned out, drownd out all communication 698 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 5: that Sam Darnold has, and then get after him. 699 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 4: I think this is a championship game. This is the 700 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 4: NFC West Championship game, like I said earlier, And when 701 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: you're in those modes and you want your team to win, 702 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 4: you need to be out and here and be a 703 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: part of the game, right, be a part of the environment, 704 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 4: the experience. Fans. I mean we both know this. I 705 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 4: mean I've been in I've played in U deb I 706 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 4: played in Seattle. I've been there where you can't hear 707 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 4: the quarterback give tell you the play? Yeah right? You 708 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 4: know how much of a disadvantage that is as an 709 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: offensive player, Like the quarterback is screaming. You just see 710 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 4: his mouth going like this, and you're like what what? Right? 711 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 4: And then you got to burn a time out, or 712 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 4: you have some miscommunication, you're able to get pressure on 713 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 4: the quarterback in a big sack on third down. Those 714 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: those things, fans definitely impact the game. So if you 715 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 4: want this just Rams team like to be where they 716 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 4: where everyone believes they can go, you got to be 717 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 4: a part of that, right, Like we're all a part 718 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 4: of it. I mean we have a job to do 719 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 4: as well. Yeah, but this is a this is a 720 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 4: city that the Dodgers just went back to back. We've 721 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 4: seen how they've been supported. As time for you know 722 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 4: those people that baseball season's over. Now it's time to 723 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 4: come to so far and let's do it again, right 724 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: and let this be the city of championships. 725 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: I know you guys want another ring, that's all I'm oh. 726 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 4: I know you want another ring two times, two times 727 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 4: super Bowl champions. 728 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: Quick synopsis of our keys to victory because you guys 729 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: have already laid it out so beautifully. But just something 730 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: for Rams fans to hang on to. First key to 731 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: victory tomorrow. 732 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll say this. 733 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 5: I think this will be the best defenses both teams 734 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 5: will have played with exception of Houston and I would say, 735 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 5: if you look at the tape from what they did 736 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 5: versus Arizona, you're gonna see a lot of that. They're 737 00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 5: gonna try to get the ball out of Matthews sa 738 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 5: Efford's hands in a blank or beat him up. That's 739 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 5: going to be the game plan. So I would say 740 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 5: this protection from Matthew Stafford and not just pass blocking. 741 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 5: I mean protecting through running the football, being smart with it, 742 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 5: staying ahead of the chains, and kind of taking away 743 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 5: some of that aggression because he'll do it on his own, 744 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 5: but take away some of that aggression by continuing to 745 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 5: keep them on the field. And I think that'll pay dividends. 746 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 5: So Number one, protect Stafford. Number two, you got to 747 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 5: stop the run. You absolutely have to stop the run. 748 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 5: Make them one dimensional. I don't think you can cover 749 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 5: them one on one, but I know you can get 750 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 5: pressure on that quarterback. So it starts with stopping the run. Yeah, 751 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 5: to me, I was gonna say, just control the line 752 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 5: of scrimmage. If you can control the line of scrimmage, 753 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 5: meaning both sides of the ball, dominating them on defense. 754 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 5: If we're on defense, are on offense getting pressure, like 755 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 5: DeMarco says, stopping the run. But then on the de 756 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 5: vice versa the other ways. You know, they put a 757 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 5: lot of resource and invested a lot of money into 758 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 5: that defensive line in draft capital. Guess who else has 759 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 5: done the same thing, the rams on both sides, right, 760 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 5: So it's time for you to then now show why 761 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 5: you're getting paid or why you were selected at a 762 00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 5: certain position. 763 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 4: And this is that game. For this is Championship games 764 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: aren't about the guys on the outside. It's not about 765 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 4: the running back. It's really not about the quarterback. You 766 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 4: win championship games because of the interior. If you look 767 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: at the Eagles last year, the reason the Eagles beat 768 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 4: one was because their defensive line dominated down the stretch. 769 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 4: Offensive line did they They were able to run the football. 770 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 4: Their offensive line did as well. So when you're in 771 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 4: a championship game, it's all about the guys up front, 772 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 4: the guys that don't get all they've written about that, 773 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 4: those are the guys that have to win those games. 774 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 4: So to me control the line of scrimmage. 775 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 3: Which one is it that one Braden fist is gonna 776 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: win this game? 777 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: Look at you, right back to it. 778 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go bat some clean up here. I'm going 779 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: to say another clean game on special teams, just clean 780 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: and simple. And then I'm also going to say we 781 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: got to start fast if Matthew Stafford has been really 782 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: solid on those opening drives three straight where they've been 783 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: able to score. But guys, it's been a pleasure. Thanks 784 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: so much for hanging out here on between the horns 785 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: presented by your Southern California toilet Dealers, a beautiful setting 786 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: right here on our Toyota patio at Sofi Stadium. 787 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: We can't wait to see you back 788 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: Here at one five Sunday afternoon, the Rams and the 789 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: Seahawks looking for that divisional leader.