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Speaker 3: Second Data Dating.
Speaker 4: You know, we've talked about people getting back into the
Speaker 4: dating game after being out of it for a while,
Speaker 4: but we don't normally speak to people on this segment
Speaker 4: who are using dating apps for the very first time,
Speaker 4: like ever.
Speaker 3: Ever, it's like a time warp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you haven't dated since twenty ten and you
Speaker 4: met somebody at a grocery store, nowadays, you're.
Speaker 5: Getting an eggplant, all right, Oh, but it's a digital one.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if you even wanted it in
Speaker 4: the first place. But that's what happened with Rachel recently.
Speaker 4: She emailed us saying this is her very first time
Speaker 4: being on a dating app and she actually met a
Speaker 4: great guy who's somehow not calling her back.
Speaker 3: So Rachel, welcome, Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious because I've ever been on dating apps, right,
Speaker 1: because I met my.
Speaker 2: Husband like before.
Speaker 1: They were huge, like what is it like for your
Speaker 1: first time?
Speaker 6: It made me feel kind of old too though, I
Speaker 6: mean I had been in a relationship since college, so
Speaker 6: like seven, you know what I mean, So like I
Speaker 6: just completely knew for me, and when I got flooded
Speaker 6: with all these guys, it was exciting. It kind of
Speaker 6: it boosted my ego. But it took me about like
Speaker 6: two and a half weeks to find someone that actually
Speaker 6: fit all of my criteria and.
Speaker 7: That was Jack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you messaged him.
Speaker 6: So he reached out to me. So I thought that
Speaker 6: was vulnerable, you know what I mean, Like that's pretty hardcore.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 3: Thousands of other guys did. But it's okay, he said, Hey.
Speaker 8: She's like, oh my god, he's so formal.
Speaker 1: I mean, how long did it take you to go
Speaker 1: out with him? Like between talking to him on the
Speaker 1: app and then the actual.
Speaker 6: Date Actually about five days So we started kind of
Speaker 6: like Sunday Monday talking and then that weekend he was
Speaker 6: free and I was free.
Speaker 1: So and I feel like a weekend date is a
Speaker 1: big commitment day. I don't know, like using your weekend
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 8: I'll take a day any day.
Speaker 3: Of the week. It didn't work out.
Speaker 4: I think single people think anytime is a good time.
Speaker 4: Married people like, my weekend is my own time. So
Speaker 4: what did you guys end up doing?
Speaker 3: Rachel?
Speaker 6: So we ended up going to dinner. Okay, it was
Speaker 6: really really sweet. We met there. So I took an uber.
Speaker 2: And what what was that like for you? Because it's
Speaker 2: like your first dating.
Speaker 3: Uber ride knowledge. It is amazing.
Speaker 2: It's her first dating app. It's the first guy she's
Speaker 2: met on this.
Speaker 1: I would be so nervous if I were you, just
Speaker 1: because God, that's a lot.
Speaker 2: It's a lot.
Speaker 6: I'm a huge fan of broad City, and I felt
Speaker 6: like I was in city. What was actual date like, Oh, well,
Speaker 6: he was just such a gentleman, like he was dreaming.
Speaker 6: He was such a good listener to you guys, like,
Speaker 6: oh that's important.
Speaker 3: He was what it's important?
Speaker 2: Did your ex come up a lot?
Speaker 1: Because I mean you did mention to us that you
Speaker 1: were together for a really really long time.
Speaker 6: It did, because, like I said, it was over a decade,
Speaker 6: and each thing that came up, he seemed to roll
Speaker 6: with it and it didn't seem to bother him. I mean,
Speaker 6: because here's the thing I was up front with him
Speaker 6: from the get go, and I told him straightforward that
Speaker 6: I'm not going to go home with him.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, this is like immediately after the handshake.
Speaker 6: This was like after the first appetecture because I wanted
Speaker 6: to kind of lose them things up, but I just
Speaker 6: didn't want to get too loose, if you know what
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 8: Okay, but it also sounds good. You want to set
Speaker 8: boundaries and.
Speaker 2: He should respect.
Speaker 1: It could also come across as rude though, like you're
Speaker 1: also assuming that that's all that he's looking.
Speaker 3: For, you know, like Brooks only saying that because she
Speaker 3: never never crossed her.
Speaker 5: Time.
Speaker 1: Okay, he could have been insulted by that was his reaction.
Speaker 3: Were you able to gauge it.
Speaker 6: He was taken aback, but he said he wasn't expecting anything.
Speaker 6: So maybe, like you said, it just kind of threw
Speaker 6: him off or whatever. And I mean, here's the thing.
Speaker 6: When you talked about bringing out my ex, so the
Speaker 6: first time I didn't, I didn't cry. Guys, you know I.
Speaker 3: Was on the date.
Speaker 6: I'm glad teared up whenever I think of Dylan. You know,
Speaker 6: that's my my ex.
Speaker 7: And up.
Speaker 3: I hear Rachel, hang right now, even just mentioning it.
Speaker 2: That's hard.
Speaker 1: You probably were still emotional then if you're just like
Speaker 1: just now not crying talking.
Speaker 6: About him, I think maybe that the drinks didn't help,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 8: Its enhances it.
Speaker 2: Do you think that that's why Jack isn't calling you back?
Speaker 6: I don't think so. No, he was, like I said,
Speaker 6: he didn't see it like, he didn't seem like he
Speaker 6: was weirded out by it at all. And no, it
Speaker 6: seems time.
Speaker 8: We all know you obviously didn't hook up, but did
Speaker 8: you guys like kids or hug or like do anything
Speaker 8: else that's like intimate.
Speaker 6: No, he was a gentleman, so we just like this
Speaker 6: side had thing.
Speaker 2: The side hugged like I do with all my friends.
Speaker 4: Armed hug.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know that that's a good sign.
Speaker 6: It was my first date, like I haven't been in
Speaker 6: an real in person date in over a decade. By
Speaker 6: give me a break, hug.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just sorry. We've a lot of dating stories,
Speaker 4: but your sounds very nice, especially for your first time
Speaker 4: back into the dating pool, first time on a dating app.
Speaker 3: So let's let's play a song.
Speaker 4: We'll give not Dylan, uh Jack, Jack, I am so sorry.
Speaker 4: I promise you Rachel, I will not call him Dylan.
Speaker 4: In fact, this is gonna be the last time I
Speaker 4: ever say Dylan on this show.
Speaker 1: A song.
Speaker 4: We'll come back and we'll call Jack for you, not Dylan,
Speaker 4: right after this second date.
Speaker 3: Number. If you're just joining us for the second date.
Speaker 4: We're talking to Rachel, who went on her first first
Speaker 4: date in a very long time. She said it's been
Speaker 4: more than a decade since she's gone on one, and
Speaker 4: she's never been on a dating app before. This was
Speaker 4: her first time on a dating app, and that was
Speaker 4: a little bit overwhelming, which is understandable. In fact, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do an impression right now of a guy seeing
Speaker 4: fresh meat on a.
Speaker 3: Dating take the music down, Oh yeah, oh a newbie.
Speaker 4: We're gonna stay at Applebee's for twenty minutes and then
Speaker 4: go back to my mom's house and she's gonna watch
Speaker 4: me play Mario Kart oh Man.
Speaker 2: So it's like she was dating in college all over again.
Speaker 4: Jack, who she met, wasn't like that. He was different.
Speaker 4: He was a gentleman. And how do I know that
Speaker 4: they were a good match because Rachel said she didn't
Speaker 4: cry once.
Speaker 3: During their entire.
Speaker 2: Cry about her ex.
Speaker 3: Well, cry in general. Yeah, no tears, that's love.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, Rachel, we're about to give Jack a call. How
Speaker 3: are you feeling.
Speaker 6: Honestly, I'm hoping for the best. There was nothing but
Speaker 6: positive vibes. So I feel like something happened, maybe at
Speaker 6: his job or family. I don't know. I hope everything's okay,
Speaker 6: but he's just perfect.
Speaker 2: And also, it's like, you know, this is new to you.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of options out there that you haven't
Speaker 1: even explored.
Speaker 3: I mean, talking on the town.
Speaker 2: That's how you get over people.
Speaker 8: Jeff, there is one thing that doesn't change in dating,
Speaker 8: and that's vibes. Like you can tell if something happened
Speaker 8: on the date. You could pinpoint a moment usually, so
Speaker 8: you don't feel like there was something, then maybe there was.
Speaker 1: She hasn't even really dated in her adult life. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've had the same boyfriend since you were in college.
Speaker 1: You know, like just want you to make up for
Speaker 1: lost time.
Speaker 2: But okay, let's call Jack.
Speaker 4: You know what, We're just gonna stop projecting our feelings
Speaker 4: and our failed relationships onto you.
Speaker 3: We're just gonna dial Jack and see what he has
Speaker 3: to say.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, Hello, Hey, is this Jack?
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is Jack.
Speaker 3: Is this hey Jack? My name is jeff from the
Speaker 3: radio show brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's that's my co host Brooks, who just jumped
Speaker 4: in with a weird voice.
Speaker 1: No, it just sounded like how he was hitting on
Speaker 1: us when he answered the phone.
Speaker 2: So I was like, return to the favorite Jack.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think it's interesting because like it was
Speaker 1: an unknown number, right, Were you expecting someone else on
Speaker 1: the phone?
Speaker 5: Jack?
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, what is this all about you?
Speaker 3: I'm sure you're very confused.
Speaker 4: This lady is talking at you and kind of hitting
Speaker 4: on you at the same time. So we're a morning
Speaker 4: radio show and we're doing a segment called the Second
Speaker 4: Date Update where we're trying to help one of our
Speaker 4: listeners get in touch with.
Speaker 3: You after you went out.
Speaker 4: Oh geez, sounds like fun, right, all right, what do
Speaker 4: you What do you need from me?
Speaker 1: Well, we heard a lot of good things about you,
Speaker 1: so that's a good start.
Speaker 3: And we heard them from one of our listeners named Rachel.
Speaker 7: Oh okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So tell us what you thought about Rachel.
Speaker 7: I mean, Rachel, was she's nice?
Speaker 2: Would she attracted me? Were you attracted to her?
Speaker 1: Did you feel like you guys had some chemistry.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I think she's beautiful. She's really cool,
Speaker 7: and I think maybe she's just going through a lot
Speaker 7: right now and working through stuff. But I was not
Speaker 7: prepared to talk about this.
Speaker 2: It's okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, she told us some stuff about like her
Speaker 1: ex and maybe how she talked about that on the date.
Speaker 4: She's had a lot of really nice things about you,
Speaker 4: about how you're a great guy and a good listener.
Speaker 2: She said, you're a great listener.
Speaker 7: Well, that's super nice of her. I she was just
Speaker 7: really specific about what she wants and a guy and
Speaker 7: kind of went on and on about how I fit
Speaker 7: those things.
Speaker 2: And that was that wasn't good to you.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's nice, it's nice. Is I think it
Speaker 7: was just like a little much at some point.
Speaker 3: What was much.
Speaker 7: Like, I don't know, first dates are supposed to be
Speaker 7: a little more chill and steer the conversation towards things
Speaker 7: that are maybe more fun and getting to know each other,
Speaker 7: and it was just, uh, basically at one point I
Speaker 7: was like, look, I just want to get to know you,
Speaker 7: you know, and she she smiled, and she reached into
Speaker 7: her purse and handed me an index card.
Speaker 2: Okay, what was on the index card?
Speaker 3: Index cards are sexy?
Speaker 2: Is it a recipe from her grandma or something?
Speaker 7: I kind of wish it was. On top it said
Speaker 7: physical boundaries and kind listed all these physical things that
Speaker 7: she would allow, and she also listed them by date.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean like like first kiss, three dates in
Speaker 1: you can touch my butt four dates exactly?
Speaker 3: It really.
Speaker 7: Planning.
Speaker 3: Do you have the card?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Oh yeah, date one, fist bump bump, I hug
Speaker 7: and high five.
Speaker 8: Ah oh my god, wow, send me the card before
Speaker 8: the date.
Speaker 4: From what we heard, it sounded like you did that
Speaker 4: side hug on the first day.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, we definitely we did. Actually we did
Speaker 7: do this.
Speaker 3: But yeah, how was it?
Speaker 7: Oh it was exactly what you did expect.
Speaker 1: Okay, So it wasn't necessarily her boundaries, it was the
Speaker 1: way they were presented.
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 7: I think it's cool, like her therapist says, always create boundaries,
Speaker 7: which she told me, you know, and I think it's
Speaker 7: super healthy. That's great, but it's just not what I'm
Speaker 7: looking for. It's just a little much to me, and
Speaker 7: especially talking about on the first date like that.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe there's a more organic way to work
Speaker 1: in your boundaries.
Speaker 4: Like, what's more organic than having her be on the
Speaker 4: radio with you and tell her her boundaries right now
Speaker 4: because she's been on the other line listening, Jack, and
Speaker 4: she wants to talk to you.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know she's not respecting your boundary in that way.
Speaker 7: No, Jack, Yeah, we had some great time.
Speaker 6: I mean you you're such a sweetheart. You just told
Speaker 6: me that you you like, like you think I'm attractive,
Speaker 6: you know, like I'm trying to be a great communicator,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like no gray areas. I
Speaker 6: thought you would appreciate to know exactly what I want,
Speaker 6: what I needed, you know, like I'm not I'm not
Speaker 6: trying to play games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a hot pitch right there.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, Jack, feel free to respond Rachel.
Speaker 7: Rachel, Okay, look, this is a I can't believe you're
Speaker 7: on We're on the radio right now. This is ridiculous.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's very fun.
Speaker 7: It's just even though I think you're a great person,
Speaker 7: you were clearly physically attractive, and it's just like the
Speaker 7: chemistry was just not there, you know, And like the
Speaker 7: way this this whole boundary note card thing was was
Speaker 7: brought up. It just kind of killed the vibe. And
Speaker 7: I know maybe.
Speaker 4: Dude, do you know how many times a note card
Speaker 4: would have saved me on one of my Craigslist meetups,
Speaker 4: whether or not like you think it's if it's going
Speaker 4: too far, it's like taking the spontaneity out of it.
Speaker 4: She's just trying to show you what she's comfortable with
Speaker 4: doing before things get awkward for your car. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's her first date in a really, really long time,
Speaker 4: so she's just trying to get her feedback under her.
Speaker 7: It doesn't mean you need to be a robot, though.
Speaker 7: It's like when I walk through your car, I have
Speaker 7: to pull out the note card and check what I
Speaker 7: can do. If it's like.
Speaker 6: You said, we didn't have any chemistry, but I guarantee
Speaker 6: that server what I told you different. And to be honest,
Speaker 6: it's your loss because after date i'ma five, things really
Speaker 6: open up.
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing about Rachel, she sounds like someone
Speaker 1: who's very organized and maybe very different from you and
Speaker 1: could really bring some other aspects to your life that
Speaker 1: you don't have.
Speaker 4: Right now, Let's get to the second day on your
Speaker 4: note card so we can get to some of that
Speaker 4: other stuff, because we'd like to pay for that. What
Speaker 4: do you say, Jack, give it another shot, Rachel.
Speaker 7: I just I think it's cool that you think we
Speaker 7: had chemistry. I just think that, like a lot of
Speaker 7: the fund was kind of drained out of it as
Speaker 7: soon as those boundaries came up and.
Speaker 2: Give her a second chance on the second day. She
Speaker 2: knows that already. She doesn't have a second note card?
Speaker 2: Do you, Rachel? Do you have another note?
Speaker 7: Not anymore? Now?
Speaker 2: Look at maybe you could just change. She's funny. She's funny.
Speaker 1: Jack.
Speaker 7: All right, you know, if we can start over, If
Speaker 7: we can start over, and.
Speaker 8: It's like a punch card, you're gonna get like a free.
Speaker 2: So are you just saying yes? Is that what you're saying, Jack?
Speaker 7: I mean yeah, Okay, I'll say yes, but I'll pretend
Speaker 7: like the card never happened.
Speaker 1: Okay, she still wants you to.
Speaker 7: Jack.
Speaker 6: I'm actually excited and I'm really happy that I was
Speaker 6: vulnerable and called the station. Thank you guys.
Speaker 4: You barely cried once during this entire call. That must
Speaker 4: mean it was a positive experience.
Speaker 8: Yeah, just don't say that code word that makes her cry.
Speaker 7: It's Dylane. Oh God, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning,