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Speaker 3: Second Data Dating.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've talked about people getting back into the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you haven't dated since twenty ten and you

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Speaker 5: Getting an eggplant, all right, Oh, but it's a digital one.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if you even wanted it in

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious because I've ever been on dating apps, right,

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Speaker 7: That was Jack.

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Speaker 6: No, he was a gentleman, so we just like this

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Speaker 2: The side hugged like I do with all my friends.

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Speaker 3: So let's let's play a song.

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Speaker 4: We're talking to Rachel, who went on her first first

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Speaker 4: You know what, We're just gonna stop projecting our feelings

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's that's my co host Brooks, who just jumped

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Speaker 4: Oh geez, sounds like fun, right, all right, what do

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Speaker 1: Well, we heard a lot of good things about you,

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Speaker 7: I mean, Rachel, was she's nice?

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Speaker 2: She said, you're a great listener.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's super nice of her. I she was just

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Speaker 2: And that was that wasn't good to you.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's nice, it's nice. Is I think it

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Speaker 3: What was much.

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Speaker 7: Like, I don't know, first dates are supposed to be

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Speaker 7: and it was just, uh, basically at one point I

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Speaker 7: you know, and she she smiled, and she reached into

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Speaker 2: Okay, what was on the index card?

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Speaker 3: Index cards are sexy?

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Speaker 2: Is it a recipe from her grandma or something?

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Speaker 7: I kind of wish it was. On top it said

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Speaker 1: Oh you mean like like first kiss, three dates in

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Speaker 1: you can touch my butt four dates exactly?

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Speaker 3: It really.

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Speaker 7: Planning.

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Speaker 3: Do you have the card?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Oh yeah, date one, fist bump bump, I hug

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Speaker 8: Ah oh my god, wow, send me the card before

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Speaker 8: the date.

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Speaker 4: From what we heard, it sounded like you did that

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, we definitely we did. Actually we did

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Speaker 3: But yeah, how was it?

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Speaker 7: Oh it was exactly what you did expect.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So it wasn't necessarily her boundaries, it was the

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 7: I think it's cool, like her therapist says, always create boundaries,

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Speaker 7: super healthy. That's great, but it's just not what I'm

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe there's a more organic way to work

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Speaker 4: Like, what's more organic than having her be on the

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Speaker 4: because she's been on the other line listening, Jack, and

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Speaker 4: she wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know she's not respecting your boundary in that way.

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Speaker 7: No, Jack, Yeah, we had some great time.

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Speaker 6: I mean you you're such a sweetheart. You just told

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Speaker 6: you know, like I'm trying to be a great communicator,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like no gray areas. I

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Speaker 6: thought you would appreciate to know exactly what I want,

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Speaker 6: what I needed, you know, like I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a hot pitch right there.

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, Jack, feel free to respond Rachel.

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Speaker 7: Rachel, Okay, look, this is a I can't believe you're

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Speaker 7: on We're on the radio right now. This is ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's very fun.

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Speaker 7: It's just even though I think you're a great person,

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Speaker 7: you were clearly physically attractive, and it's just like the

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Speaker 7: chemistry was just not there, you know, And like the

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Speaker 7: I know maybe.

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Speaker 4: Dude, do you know how many times a note card

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Speaker 4: would have saved me on one of my Craigslist meetups,

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Speaker 4: whether or not like you think it's if it's going

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Speaker 4: too far, it's like taking the spontaneity out of it.

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Speaker 4: She's just trying to show you what she's comfortable with

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Speaker 4: doing before things get awkward for your car. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's her first date in a really, really long time,

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Speaker 4: so she's just trying to get her feedback under her.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't mean you need to be a robot, though.

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Speaker 7: It's like when I walk through your car, I have

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Speaker 7: can do. If it's like.

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Speaker 6: You said, we didn't have any chemistry, but I guarantee

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Speaker 6: that server what I told you different. And to be honest,

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Speaker 6: it's your loss because after date i'ma five, things really

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Speaker 6: open up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the thing about Rachel, she sounds like someone

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Speaker 1: who's very organized and maybe very different from you and

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Speaker 1: could really bring some other aspects to your life that

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Speaker 1: you don't have.

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Speaker 4: Right now, Let's get to the second day on your

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Speaker 4: note card so we can get to some of that

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Speaker 4: other stuff, because we'd like to pay for that. What

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Speaker 4: do you say, Jack, give it another shot, Rachel.

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Speaker 7: I just I think it's cool that you think we

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Speaker 7: soon as those boundaries came up and.

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Speaker 2: Give her a second chance on the second day. She

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Speaker 2: knows that already. She doesn't have a second note card?

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Speaker 2: Do you, Rachel? Do you have another note?

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Speaker 7: Not anymore? Now?

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Speaker 2: Look at maybe you could just change. She's funny. She's funny.

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Speaker 1: Jack.

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Speaker 7: All right, you know, if we can start over, If

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Speaker 7: we can start over, and.

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Speaker 8: It's like a punch card, you're gonna get like a free.

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Speaker 2: So are you just saying yes? Is that what you're saying, Jack?

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Speaker 7: I mean yeah, Okay, I'll say yes, but I'll pretend

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Speaker 7: like the card never happened.

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Speaker 1: Okay, she still wants you to.

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Speaker 7: Jack.

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Speaker 6: I'm actually excited and I'm really happy that I was

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Speaker 6: vulnerable and called the station. Thank you guys.

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Speaker 4: You barely cried once during this entire call. That must

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Speaker 4: mean it was a positive experience.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, just don't say that code word that makes her cry.

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Speaker 7: It's Dylane. Oh God, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning,