1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Kyle Forber and welcome to the Philly Show. 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: Ben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd Zolecki. It is Tuesday, 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: September thirtieth, twenty twenty five. How's everybody doing. Phillies bye 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: week this week, but they resume workouts on Tuesday, Jim, 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: all the hitters are going to be out there on 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: the field taking batting practice and in the cages. And 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: that's why we are excited about today's guest. Let's talk 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: about it. It's time for the park's first pitch. First 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: Pitch is brought to us exclusively by our partners at 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. Today's guest Tuesday's guest, 11 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: Phillies hitting coach Kevin Long. Love talking hitting with Kevin Long. 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, kind of like with Larry 13 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: Boajim on Friday, you always learn something. So we we 14 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: asked him a lot about, you know, Kyle Schwarber, Bryce Harper, 15 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: just the state of hitting today, Trey Turner winning a 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: batting title, a lot, really a lot of fun, learned 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: a lot. 18 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: I think that's a great parallel Kevin Long and Larry Boa, 19 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: because incredibly passionate baseball man. Both have great personality, but 20 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: you come away from a conversation with both guys learning 21 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 3: a little bit about baseball. And I definitely learned a 22 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: little bit about hitting from Kevin Long I do every 23 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: time I talk to him, and I don't talk to 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 3: him a lot because you don't see him a lot. 25 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: He's like he's like a shadow. He's like a ghost. 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: You know he's there, but you don't know where he is. Well, 27 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: where he is. He's underneath. He's in the batting cage, 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: and he's arriving at noon and he's going over all 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: this data and he's scouting reports, and then he's in 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: the cage with these guys all afternoon, right up to 31 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: the first pitch, and then you see him pop out 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: when the Phillies are batting. He's on the top step, 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: and then he's underneath analyzing and and he was ever 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: popping in the cage working with them. But this guy 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: is the absolute tireless worker, real student of the game, 36 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 3: real student of hitting. And I kind of geeked out 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: talking to him and listening to some of his stuff, 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: especially about the evolution of batting practice, which in the 39 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: game of baseball which which kind of has fascinated me 40 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: over the years. So it was interesting to hear him 41 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: talk about some of the reasons for that evolution and 42 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: some of the some of the new techniques guys are applying, 43 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: and you know, it was interesting to hear him talk 44 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: about the challenge of a bye week. I mean, let's 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: say we're into October. Now, this is what it's all about. 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: He talked about the team having a chip on his 47 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: shoulder and how it's stung getting eliminated last year, how 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: maybe the fourth time is the charm, but the challenge 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: for hitting coach on a bye week, keeping these guys 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: sharp in an everyday game when you don't play for 51 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 3: a week. And one of the things he mentioned is, yeah, 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: well we'll bring him in the cage and we'll crank 53 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: it up to one hundred and five. Can you imagine 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: that we were cranking up to one hundred and five. 55 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god. You know, it's funny. 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But yeah, Jim, don't feel 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: bad about geeking out, because I you know, I just 68 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: love talking about you know, the stories of how Kyle 69 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: Schwarber started hitting lefties better. Uh, you know how Bryson 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: Stott made a simple adjustment, relatively simple adjustment with his 71 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: hands to get going better. So all that stuff coming 72 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: up right now, Kevin long. 73 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: Hey, that was first pitch presented exclusively by our partners 74 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: at Park's Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino Parkscasino dot is 75 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: the website. You must be twenty one to participate. 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How excited are you and what has you 105 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: the most excited about this postseason, maybe even more than 106 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: the other three. 107 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 6: Well, I think it's just unfinished business. You know, we've 108 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 6: been here three times and this is the fourth, not 109 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 6: the third time as a charm, the fourth times a charm. 110 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 6: I'm excited for the fellas. I'm excited for the coaching staff. 111 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 6: I'm excited for Rob Thompson. I'm excited for the Phillies 112 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 6: organization and the fans that you know, we get to 113 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 6: go out there and compete and hopefully this one's the. 114 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: One you mentioned unfinished business. Did you sense that attitude 115 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 3: in the players right from day one up spring training, 116 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: maybe even to last offseason and your phone calls and 117 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: maybe some of your. 118 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, it kind of it just leaves a sour taste 119 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 6: in your mouth, and it's it's it makes for a 120 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 6: long off site, long off season, you know, and then 121 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 6: you get back after it and you're just hopeful that 122 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 6: you get back in it and get another chance. Obviously, 123 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 6: we're very poised. We've got a bunch of guys who 124 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 6: have been there and and done this before. You know, 125 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 6: I think we have a little bit of an edge 126 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 6: to us. I feel like, you know, we started off 127 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 6: a little slow, which I liked, and I feel like 128 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 6: we've played some really good baseball as of late. So 129 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 6: I feel like we're getting into this at the right time. 130 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 6: And I really don't care who we play. You're gonna 131 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 6: have to play some tough teams along the way, And again, 132 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 6: I'm just excited for this opportunity. 133 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: What what type of challenge is the week off from 134 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: a hitter's perspective and a hitting coaches perspective. 135 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you just you want to keep guys 136 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 6: abreast of the v low of curveballs. Just you know, 137 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 6: this is a game that's played every day and we're 138 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 6: going to get a week off. So we're gonna set 139 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 6: up the curveball machine on the field, get them a 140 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 6: look out there at that. 141 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: We'll do different shapes. 142 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 6: We'll do some curb buss we'll do some sliders, do 143 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 6: some cutters. We'll do all our below work in the cages, 144 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 6: which we'll have guys facing anywhere from ninety miles an 145 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 6: hour all the way up to one hundred and five 146 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 6: miles an hour, so we'll have them going up and back, 147 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 6: so they'll they'll they'll be ready to go as far 148 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 6: as all that by just our preparation and our work 149 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 6: in the cages and then on the field. 150 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: So as the hitting coach, I thought it was cool 151 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: to hear, But I'm sure as a hitting coach you 152 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: love to hear guys like Trey and Bryce have already 153 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: said because they've been asked already the bye week last week, 154 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: the bye week last year, the bye week you guys 155 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: lost to the Mets. Now you got the bye week, 156 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: and they're like, listen, it's an excuse. If you want 157 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: to make it an excuse, We're not going to make 158 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: it an excuse. So I'm sure as a hitting coach 159 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: you love to hear those guys already saying, like, we're 160 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: going to get our work in. You gotta play well. 161 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: There's challenges, but it doesn't mean you can't hit and win, 162 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: you know all that stuff. 163 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, they're just built in excuses. You can 164 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 6: use them if you want. Our guys don't want to 165 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 6: don't want to hear any of that. They just want 166 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 6: to go out there and play and compete and see 167 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 6: what happens. Listen, Like I said, there's some bitterness involved. 168 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 6: These guys have a little chip on their shoulder. Hopefully 169 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 6: that's enough to propel us to the World Series and 170 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 6: win the World Series. But listen to bye. I think 171 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 6: the bye week's good. I think it's a good opportunity 172 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 6: for guys to get rested up. But again they're what 173 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 6: they're saying is when this thing starts, we got to 174 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 6: go and no excuses. 175 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: You know, looking at your numbers this season, I don't 176 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: know what if you had any like internal goals or 177 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: team wide goals that you gave to the players, But 178 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 2: I was looking at the numbers. Finish eighth in Major 179 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: League Baseball in run scored second, in batting average four 180 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: worth an on base percentage fourth and slugging percentage fourth 181 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: and OPS fourth, and average exit vl O fifth and 182 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: hard hit rate. I mean, how would you assess just 183 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: the season long performance of your offense? What did you 184 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: like the most? 185 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 6: Not bad for a team that couldn't slug, couldn't score runs, 186 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 6: couldn't do this, couldn't do that, it sounds like a 187 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 6: pretty good offense to me. It's just it's amazing that 188 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 6: you play one sixty two and at the end of 189 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 6: the day, this is where we end up, and it's satisfying. 190 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: It means it means that the. 191 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 6: Guys put in their work, they actually performed at a 192 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 6: very very high level. 193 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: They should be proud of themselves. We had a triple crown. 194 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 6: We had the batting average, the home run leader, and 195 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 6: the RBI leader all come out of our clubhouse. Hasn't 196 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 6: been done since nineteen forty one in the American League 197 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 6: and the National League, I think it was in the seventies. So, 198 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 6: you know, there's just some cool things that happened. Trey 199 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 6: winning the batting titled, Kyle hitting only three home runs 200 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 6: off left handed pitching, Bryce coming back from what was 201 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 6: pretty serious risk injury and ended up you know, playing 202 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 6: at a pretty high level as well. You know, just 203 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 6: just some overall. I thought our guys performed and did 204 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 6: a really good job. 205 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 3: Trady season has been really a great one. I mean, 206 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: I'm sure as a hitting coach, guy wins a batting title, 207 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: you gotta feel a real sense of pride in that. 208 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there's only one batting title champion and 209 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 6: it's Trey Turner. Pretty cool, you know, this is Trey's 210 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 6: second one. I think there's only been fourteen guys that 211 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 6: have won two, Trey being one of those. So that's, uh, 212 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 6: that's quite a feat and it's a pretty special accomplishment 213 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 6: for him. But I know all these guys would give 214 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 6: up all that, yes, for a World Series championship. 215 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 3: So can you take us back to spring training a 216 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: little bit because Rob talked about this that there were 217 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: conversations with Trey about maybe making some adjustments, use the 218 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: middle little field, get on more more contact, you know, 219 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 3: use your wheels, think more like a leadoff guy. What 220 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: were those conversations, like, what was stressed adjustment wise, and 221 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: what do you think of the results. 222 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: Well, obviously the results speak for themselves. 223 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 6: He gave up a little bit of of his power 224 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 6: so that he could hit for a higher average, see 225 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 6: the ball better, you know, cut down his chase rate, 226 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 6: which he did. You know, I think he'd done this 227 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 6: in the past and was able to get back to 228 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 6: what I saw him do a lot in Washington, which 229 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 6: was go to right field, be able to back the 230 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 6: ball up, be able to do some things that you 231 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 6: know he's very capable of doing. You know, in this game, 232 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 6: gets you get caught up in the slug you get 233 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 6: caught up in the homers, which are all very good 234 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 6: things as well, But in Trey Turner's case, it was 235 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 6: can I do a little bit of both? 236 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: And I think he did a very good job with that. 237 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: He must be a very coachable guy to make these 238 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: adjustments mid career. 239 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, if you make sense of it to 240 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 6: Trey and you can come up with a rhyme or 241 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 6: a reason, because he's really really smart, really intelligent. He 242 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 6: just doesn't do things just to do him. 243 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: Uh. He wants it to make sense. 244 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 6: And I think, you know, everybody made sense of this, 245 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 6: and he was willing to do it and then took off. 246 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 6: And really from day one he's hasn't waivered from backing 247 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 6: it up, making better decisions, using right field, maybe cutting 248 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 6: down his homeworks. 249 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: But I think his. 250 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 6: Goal was to score around one hundred runs and if 251 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 6: he wouldn't have got hurt for those you know, three weeks, 252 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 6: he would have done that. So just a terrific We're 253 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 6: year overall for Trey, and I'm very proud. 254 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: Of you got. 255 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: You know, I know Trey, a lot of guys, all 256 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: those guys love hitting, but I feel like, you know, 257 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: in Trey. I hear a lot of stories about him, 258 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: you know, watching other guys in the cage, some of 259 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: his teammates in the cage, and watching a lot of films, 260 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: same thing with Kyle Schwarber. That must be a lot 261 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: of fun to have guys like that who just like 262 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: love it, breathe it, eat it, drink it in and 263 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: you know, not only know themselves, but like to kind 264 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: of like watch their teammates and kind of cheer them 265 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: on and help them out. And you know that's gotta 266 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: be kind of cool. 267 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, they're like extra coaches, honestly. They they really help 268 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 6: not only themselves but their teammates. They're you know, they'll 269 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 6: suggest things to maybe Kyle or to Bryce or to 270 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 6: JT or any one of the guys. If they see something. 271 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 6: They're very willing and available to help. You know, it's 272 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 6: just another set of eyes. And and when it's one 273 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 6: of your colleagues and one of your guys that you're 274 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 6: working with all the time, that that certainly helps the 275 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 6: other players. But Trey loves hitting, he loves studying it. 276 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 6: He loves going in there and grinding. He's in the 277 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 6: cages in between innings. He'll come running off the field, 278 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 6: go in the cage, get a couple of swings. 279 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: He's always he's. 280 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 6: Working on his swing and his craft, and it's just 281 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 6: pretty cool to see. 282 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: Tom tell Kevin that quote that that Tray had the 283 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: other day about how hard it is to hit these days. 284 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: It was great. 285 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure you saw. But I love 286 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: this quote because I agree with that. I know some 287 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: people might not completely agree with it. But he was asked, like, 288 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: what you any idea why it's so hard to hit 289 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: three hundred, and he's like, yeah, everybody's throwing a hundred. 290 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: Everybody has six pitches, nobody knows where the ball is going. 291 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: He's like, honestly, I can't believe that more people don't 292 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: know why it's so hard to hit three hundred. I mean, 293 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: I imagine you agree with with Trey. 294 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we get these questions all the time. 295 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 6: I tell people, I said, I need to be a 296 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 6: pitching coach or I need to go coach for the 297 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 6: sixers or some other field, because this job of being 298 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 6: a hitting coach is I mean, it's insanity. I mean, 299 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 6: really think about it. The pitchers don't know where the 300 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 6: ball is going half the time. But their stuff is 301 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 6: so nasty, so filthy. The v lows are so high. 302 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 6: They're throwing cutters, sliders, sweepers, curveball, slurbs, knuckleballs, splits. I mean, 303 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 6: it's just thrediculous the things that these guys were able 304 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 6: to do with the baseball. But listen, we chose this 305 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 6: field and we chose what we're doing, and uh, we're 306 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 6: gonna make the best of it. But I think you 307 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 6: can understand why there's only one three hundred hitter internationally. 308 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: And Trade Trade just mentioned it. 309 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: You mentioned hitting coaches. Uh, you know when the team 310 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: went you know, it's baseball. You're gonna have ten days 311 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: when you just don't hit, and that's when the hitting 312 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: coach takes all the heat. Everybody wants to crush them 313 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: and run them out of town. And then you have 314 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: ten days we average in seven runs a game and 315 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: nobody even mentions the hitting coach. It's all about the hitters, 316 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: which you know, that's the way it should be. It's 317 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: a players game. But you got you got it. Sometimes 318 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: you got to put on the fireproof suit and sometimes 319 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: you just got to deal with it. 320 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, you just you just deal with it. And 321 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 6: you signed up for this and listen that this. I 322 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 6: just finished my nineteenth year in the big leagues, and 323 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 6: I understand the challenges that exist, and I understand, you know, 324 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 6: what the media's job is, and they're going to point 325 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 6: out when the offense is failing, and most of the 326 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 6: time those fingers go right to the hitting coach. We 327 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 6: looked at the most volatile jobs in our profession and 328 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 6: hitting coach was number one. They last on average two years, 329 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 6: you know, and even managers and pitching coaches they're all 330 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 6: the way up to three and. 331 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: A half years. 332 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 6: So it's it's it's a tough job, but there's a 333 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 6: lot of scrutiny, and obviously when the major league average 334 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 6: is two forty, you know, it's it's just a tough 335 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 6: business and it's not easy, you know, to kind of 336 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 6: keep these guys hot. 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He must be twenty one gambling 366 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 7: problem called one eight hundred gambler. 367 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber had this unbelievable season obviously, fifty six home runs, 368 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: twenty three homers against lefties. He's a free agent after 369 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: the season. From your point of view, why do you 370 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: think he will be able to maintain that success over 371 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: the next three four five years, maybe even longer. 372 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 1: Well, in my opinion, watching him play left field, and 373 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: when he played left field, his legs were heavy, he 374 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: was having some problems with his knees, his back would 375 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: act up. He's literally dhing and he's very very good 376 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: at it. And I always tell him, if you're going 377 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: to dh, you might as well. 378 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 6: Be really really good at hitting, And he is really 379 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 6: really good at hitting. He's got more life in his 380 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 6: body than he had when he played left field. You know, 381 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 6: he's thirty two thirty three. It's not like he's thirty 382 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 6: seven thirty eight. He reminds me of a lot of 383 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 6: what David Ortiz was late in his career. He just 384 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 6: he's got this ability to hit the bat speeds there. 385 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 6: I just don't see him slowing down. Every year he 386 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 6: continues to get a little bit better. You know, this 387 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 6: offseason will diagnose some some areas that he can get better, 388 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 6: and he'll attack him as we do during the season 389 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 6: as well. But I just don't see it slowing down 390 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 6: anytime soon. 391 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 3: Well, that's good to hear you plan on working with 392 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: him this offseason. I'll leave the reasons. 393 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: Said hopefully that's some good force. 394 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. Exactly how much has he changed since 395 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 3: what you had him in Washington. He's just improved so 396 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 3: much against lefties. I mean there was a time when 397 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: he was teetering between regular and platoon player. 398 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's pretty amazing to see how far he's come. 399 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 6: He's a really a complete hitter. I can I can 400 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 6: give you guys an example. We were working in Washington 401 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 6: during spring training and I said, Okay, Pop, Kyle, we're 402 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 6: going to back the ball up here and we're going 403 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 6: to hit every ball to left field and I'm gonna 404 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 6: lob the baseball. So it's going to be on you 405 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 6: to make sure you hold your energy, make sure the 406 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 6: ball travels and you hit it to left all right. 407 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 6: The first swing, he yanks it and pulls it foul 408 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 6: to the first base side. All right, I let it slide. 409 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 6: The next one, I thought it real slow. He yanks 410 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 6: it and pulls it foul down the first baseline. I said, okay, Kyle, 411 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 6: what don't you understand here? We're going to back the 412 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 6: ball up. We're gonna go to left field. Okay, left 413 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: field's on the other side of the field. I don't know, 414 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 6: maybe you don't know where that's at. But you're performing 415 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 6: this drill awfully right now. I mean it's terrible. And 416 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 6: he says, I still think you're gonna throw me in fastball. 417 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 6: I said, I'm not gonna throw you fastball. I'm gonna 418 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 6: love the baseball. It's your job to make sure it 419 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 6: gets to you. And you hit the ball to left field. 420 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 6: So we probably stayed out there an hour, hour and 421 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 6: a half. He got it. But this is things that 422 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 6: he couldn't do even in a just a him and 423 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 6: I scenario where he could do that in a sleep 424 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 6: right now, and then the lefty and lefty stuff that 425 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 6: he practiced every single day so that he would be 426 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 6: able to play every single day against lefties. 427 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: It's just remarkable. 428 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 6: I mean, he's a one sixty five hitter I think 429 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 6: against left hand and pitching when our past crossed, and 430 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 6: since then he's demolished left hand and pitching. 431 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: So pretty cool story overall. 432 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: What was your your role in kind of recruiting him here? 433 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: Obviously I wanted him here. I you know, was. 434 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 6: Very vocal to Dave and and the people that are 435 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 6: involved in bringing players here. I thought he would fit 436 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 6: in well. I thought he could handle Philly. There was 437 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 6: just a lot of things that I knew about Kyle 438 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 6: that I thought would be a good fit for the 439 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 6: Philadelphia Phillies. But sometimes that's not even enough, you know. 440 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 6: It's it's up to Dave Dombrowski, it's up to ownership. 441 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 6: It's a lot of things have to fall into place, 442 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 6: you know, to get a player like Kyle. I remember 443 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 6: there was a lockout that year. There was there was 444 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 6: some negotiations being done with Kyle uh and they didn't 445 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 6: get it done before the lockout, and I was like, 446 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 6: oh man, I would have loved to have got that 447 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 6: done before the lockout. But fortunately for the Phillies, we 448 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 6: got that done. And obviously it's been a great fit 449 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 6: for Kyle and the Phillies. 450 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 3: Great? 451 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, what do you what do you make 452 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: of or what do you make of Bryce this season? 453 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: Obviously he's been battling the wrist or you know, with 454 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 2: the wrist, and do you feel like something might be 455 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: coming in October with him? You know, better results, better performance? 456 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it gnawing at him that he hasn't 457 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 2: had the Bryce Harper ish? I mean very good numbers. 458 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing, is very good numbers. But 459 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: what do you what do you make of that? The 460 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper season? 461 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 6: I guess so A lot of it, I'll say, has 462 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 6: to do with how many at bats do you get? 463 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: How many games do you play? 464 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 6: So if you add six seven weeks onto his twenty 465 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 6: seven seventy five whatever he hit, two seventy ish to 466 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 6: sixty ish whatever he hit, you're probably looking at thirty 467 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 6: five thirty eight homers. You're probably looking at one hundred, 468 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 6: one hundred and ten RBIs if I look at all 469 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 6: his career numbers, his average home runs first career, twenty 470 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 6: seventy year, he had twenty seven. 471 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: His average RBIs seventy five, he had seventy five. This 472 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: is with missing time. 473 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 6: So I think we put Bryce on his pedestal and think, 474 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 6: you know, all these fantastic things, and what I'm looking 475 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 6: at it is, I'm going, oh boy, here comes October. 476 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 6: This Bryce really likes the stage and really likes, you know, 477 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 6: the bright lights. And I wouldn't be surprised if the 478 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 6: guy goes off. I just I just wouldn't. I know 479 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 6: what he's made of, I know his DNA. He's kind 480 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 6: of made for these moments. So I'm excited that Bryce 481 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 6: Harper has got another chance to play in the playoffs. 482 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm excited for him, and I think he's going to 483 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: do really well. 484 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 3: How about how how do you address plate discipline? Is 485 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: that something you can teach or is it just reps 486 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: in the batter's box? And how do you address it 487 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: going into the postseason where everything is magnified where maybe 488 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 3: in some games over the past few years has been 489 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: an issue with Chase. Do you try to stay away 490 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 3: from it so it's not in the back of their 491 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 3: mind and they're thinking about it too much? Or do 492 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: you actually address and how do you kind of shape it? 493 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're always talking about it. The players will say, 494 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 6: you know, I'm so sick of you guys talking about 495 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 6: chase and plate discipline, but it has to be talked about. 496 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 6: It's it's a part of the playoffs that usually the 497 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 6: team that chases the least they win. The Mets chased 498 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 6: more than us last year, so they walk. You know, 499 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 6: it's not always the case. We're always paying attention to it. 500 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 1: It can be skewed. 501 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 6: By a couple of players chasing a ton and it 502 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 6: can affect everybody. 503 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: You say, well the team's chasing, really was the team 504 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: chasing or. 505 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 6: Was it two or three guys that really skewed that number? 506 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 6: And in a lot of cases that you know that 507 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 6: will be what happened. But it's talked about. We work 508 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 6: on it. We have charts where we show guys every 509 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 6: single day how many chases they had to day for 510 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 6: where they're chasing, what adjustments can be made in those areas. So, yeah, 511 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 6: it's it's a it's a big subject area. 512 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: It's a big talked about. 513 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 6: I don't know if it's it's this cloud that's that 514 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 6: we talk about all the time, but uh, Trey said, 515 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 6: the Dodgers talked about it all the time as well. 516 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 6: So I think most teams do talk about it, and 517 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 6: most teams are aware of if they're chasing or not a. 518 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: Chasing Kevin, I got one last guy. I wanted to 519 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: ask you about it just because I think you know 520 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: Bryce and Stott, you know you got around the second 521 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 2: half and it was just, you know, according to him, 522 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: it was just a simple adjustment with his hands. Is 523 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: there a story behind that? Like our Eureka moment the 524 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: in the cage one day where hey let's try this. 525 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: Was it a long process? I mean, what can you 526 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 2: tell us about that? Because I love hearing those stories. 527 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: How it sounds so fricking easy. 528 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: I mean changes like, wait, that's it? What? Yeah? 529 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 6: I mean there was there was some more into it. 530 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 6: But you know he did lower his hands. Well, he 531 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 6: was trying to stay on top of the baseball, so 532 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 6: he kept like raising and raising raising his hands and 533 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 6: kind of got choppy at the baseball and it just 534 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 6: wasn't a very smooth swing. So I said, you know 535 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 6: what if we lowered your hands, got them more relaxed, uh, 536 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 6: and he were more direct to the baseball. So we 537 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 6: did that and for three or four days it was good. 538 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 6: But then every ball he hit the left was a 539 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 6: pop up, and he'd have a pop up once a day, 540 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 6: I said, you must really want to hit two thirty five. 541 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: You must. This must be what. 542 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 6: You're you're trying to do, because you continue to hit 543 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 6: these fly balls that are outs. We need to lower 544 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 6: your launching them. We need to get more line drives 545 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 6: in there. To the pull side. You can hit the 546 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 6: balls as high as you want, but the other way, 547 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 6: I need those balls to be low because if they're 548 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 6: in the air, they're outs. So some of it was 549 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 6: just addressing those type of issues. But at the end 550 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 6: of the day, you know, Bryce and lower in his 551 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 6: hands and then being very conscious of how high he 552 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 6: hit the ball was another area of concern, and he 553 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 6: did a really nice job with both those things. 554 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 3: He like turns the season around. It's amazing. 555 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, and uh, you know these that's that's the thing. 556 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 6: These guys can turn it around. Sometimes it's easier than 557 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 6: other years. But Ryan Zimmerman once told me, he said, Okay, 558 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 6: here's my numbers. I'm a two fifty hitter. He says, 559 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 6: I'm either gonna hit two thirty five that'll be the lowest, 560 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 6: or I'm gonna hit two seventy five. I'm gonna be 561 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 6: in between that range. If every ball falls, I'll probably 562 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 6: hit two seventy five. If I have some tough luck 563 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 6: and the balls aren't falling, I'm probably gonna hit two 564 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 6: thirty five. So you know, he kind of when he 565 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 6: explained that, I go, yeah, that that makes a lot 566 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 6: of sense, especially if they've been around. 567 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: Now, if they're a younger player, which. 568 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 6: I would still consider stot a younger player, you want 569 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 6: to see kind of what their ceiling is, and you 570 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 6: want to see what their floor is. Hopefully he's already 571 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 6: established his floor. Let's just see where the ceiling leads him. 572 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 6: But I think a lot of the kid, I think 573 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 6: that maybe someday he could be up there for a 574 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 6: batting title as well. 575 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: We'll see how far off him on that though. 576 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 3: Now Ryan Zimmerman two fifty hitter, except against the Phillies, 577 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: he's probably three eighty. Here's a kill of Phillies. I 578 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: just have like one more question because I find it personally, 579 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: personally fascinating how much batting practice has changed over the years. 580 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the whole team used to come 581 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 3: out and you run through. Now you don't even see 582 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 3: some guys come out. They're underneath, they're in the cage. 583 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 3: The entire time. Why aren't they coming out as a 584 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: matter of that's where all your data feedback is, and 585 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: you're getting instant feedback on their swings. Or is it 586 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 3: because you know you're stimulating the picture that night. What 587 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 3: does a batting practice session look like underneath as opposed 588 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: to the stuff the fans used to see where guys 589 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: used to come out launch. 590 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, the batting practice back in the day was really 591 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 6: where they would get the bulk of their swings. They 592 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 6: get They get more swings today than they ever have, 593 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 6: And there's a lot of cage work. There's we have 594 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 6: these machines that will simulate literally every pitch that the 595 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 6: pitcher that day's throwing, So we can pull up that 596 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 6: guy's fastball, the spin rate, the movement, everything, so we 597 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 6: can we can bring up you know, we can put 598 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 6: that into our. 599 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: It's our tablet, so you could put you can put 600 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: in there. 601 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 6: Yes, you can put Otani in there and that that 602 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 6: fastball will come out and those guys can work on 603 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 6: that that day. They can work on his curveball, they 604 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 6: can work on his slider, they can work on a cutter, 605 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 6: they can work on basically everything. We have two cages 606 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 6: is that better than going out there and having a 607 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 6: home run deer being hitting balls into the seats. These 608 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 6: as will tell you yes, for the most part, they 609 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 6: would rather hit in the cages and hone in on 610 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 6: that and get their skill perfected in the cages, then 611 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 6: go out and watch every ball fly out of the 612 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 6: ballpark off a VP thrower who's throwing sixty miles an hour. 613 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 6: So I mean you're playing basically softball out there, as 614 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 6: compared to the cages, where you know, we can get 615 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 6: the machines to throw one hundred, we can do different angles. 616 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 6: It's just a very controlled environment that we can set 617 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 6: up stuff very quickly and very efficiently, and they can 618 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 6: get exactly what they need to prepare for that day's work. 619 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: Now, if one of your guys is preparing, like late 620 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 3: in the game, seventh inning, he might pinch it in 621 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: the eighth, can he run back there and and and 622 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: punch in the opposing team's closer or whatever, and get 623 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: a good quick look at. 624 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 6: Him, Jim, you're on this. See that's exactly right. That's 625 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 6: that's what they do, you know. Rafa Opena, he's the 626 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 6: one who stays in there. He'll set up the machine 627 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 6: he'll get him ready. They'll do all their v low work, 628 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 6: so you know when they're called upon to pinch hit, 629 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 6: they're ready to go. 630 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: And you're right, that's exactly what they do. 631 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 6: They'll they'll set up, let's say they're coming in to 632 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 6: face a role as Chapman. They'll get you know, a 633 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 6: fastball set up that's still on one hundred and one. 634 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 6: Probably move up a little bit to make that even 635 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 6: look a little bit faster. And when I say move up, 636 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 6: they just step up like in a box. Yeah, in 637 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 6: the box two feet or so, and that will turn 638 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 6: into like one hundred and five mile an hour fastball. 639 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 6: So now they're training their eyes and everything at a 640 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 6: higher speed. And let me tell you, they're ready. Whether 641 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 6: they get a hit or not, they're ready when they 642 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 6: get in there. 643 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 644 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 6: You know. 645 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: I remember the days when even as a kid going 646 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: to like Fenway Park, as a kid, I used to 647 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: love to watch in field outfield, and that's disappeared. You know, 648 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: it used to be around twenty five years ago, but 649 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 3: that disappeared. I wonder if traditional batting practice is one 650 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 3: day gonna just disappear and everything's gonna be underneath as 651 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 3: teams build more and more batting cages, and that we 652 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: get more and more tech and more and more machines 653 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: that can simulate. 654 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope not. I do. 655 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 6: Like you know the fact that the fans are out 656 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 6: there and they can interact, and they can see the 657 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 6: ball fly out of the ballpark, and you know it's 658 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 6: that they probably are in awe watching take batting practice, 659 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 6: because when you watch a person like Bryce Harper or 660 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 6: Kyles Orb take batting practice, I mean the amount of 661 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 6: baseball is that they hit. 662 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: Out of the ballpark amazing. It's amazing. 663 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 6: Yes, So on any given so we have what's called 664 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 6: optional VP, and they'll there's usually one group to two 665 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,479 Speaker 6: groups of BP, and that that's all we have. So 666 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 6: we'll have three in the first group and maybe three 667 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 6: in the second, which means six of our guys. 668 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: Are hitting in indoors. 669 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 6: So not everybody chooses to hit indoors, but everybody's hitting indoors, 670 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 6: and then they'll go out there and take some batting 671 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 6: practice as well. But most of our guys, especially our 672 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 6: big boys, for whatever reason, they'd rather do all their 673 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 6: stuff in the cages. And I think it's because they 674 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 6: hit so many home runs. And it turns into a 675 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 6: home run derby where they feel like they're not getting 676 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 6: as much out of it as maybe they should. 677 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 3: Well, I was watching Bader take outdoor VP the other 678 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: day and he put on absolute display. He was hitting 679 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 3: that second deck above left field like it was target practice. 680 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: I'm telling you he is strong and you're right. 681 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 6: When he came over here, I didn't know that much 682 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 6: about him, but when I saw him take batting practice 683 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 6: and how far he hits the ball, I was like, man, 684 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 6: this guy's got. 685 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: Some serious pop. But it's it's pretty amazing. 686 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 6: And most of these guys, if you watched that Mundo 687 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 6: Sosa take batting practice, it's just like, wow, this guy 688 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 6: he puts. 689 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: On buddy display as well. 690 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: Well. Kevin, thanks a lot. Thank you so much for 691 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: the time. I know again, like I said at the top, 692 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: it's a busy week for you, even though it's the 693 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 2: buye a week. 694 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 695 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot stuff going on, so we really do 696 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 2: appreciate the time. 697 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 3: Fascinating stuff. Thank you, Kevin, You're welcome. 698 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: You guys have a great day. 699 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: Thanks you. 700 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: We are back. 701 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 2: Thanks again to Kevin Long. That was a lot. That 702 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 2: was a great conversation. Jim Before we go, we've got 703 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 2: another giveaway from Shibe Vintage Sports. Check this out. Shipes 704 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: go to shypesports dot com backslash tps. If you're watching 705 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: us on YouTube, scan the QR code interscreen enter for 706 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 2: a chance to win this Veteran Stadium T shirt. All 707 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 2: the shipe stuff is great. We've got a bunch of 708 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 2: this shipe stuff at home. Wear them all the time. 709 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: Every week with Shibe, it's a this week in Philly 710 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 2: baseball history. Jim and you were there for this one. 711 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 2: I was there for this one. September twenty eighth, two 712 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: thousand and three, the Phillies played their final game at 713 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 2: Veterans Stadium. 714 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 3: Remember it well? 715 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 2: Remember what do you remember about the final game at 716 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 2: the Vet? 717 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: Jen, Well, right upstairs, I have a picture of me 718 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 3: and you sitting at our workstations in the VET press 719 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: box typing our last stories. I remember Kevin Millwood got 720 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 3: booed off the mountain, threw his glove in the stands, right, Yes. 721 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: That's right, he got booed and he flung his glove 722 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: into the stands. 723 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: That's right. 724 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: What a moment, very Philly moment at the Vet. 725 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: You gotta go out that way for sure. 726 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 3: Oh, and I I remember it was sold out. I 727 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 3: had I bought three four tickets for my wife and 728 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 3: three daughters because I wanted them there to be at 729 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 3: the last game. And I remember calling down to my 730 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 3: wife in the stands see how it was going, and 731 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 3: she said, Ah, it's going okay. But you know, the 732 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: people in front of us are a little mad because 733 00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: Caroline spilled her soda. No so I guess she spilled 734 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 3: it on the people in front of them. Oh my gosh. 735 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 2: I one thing I remember, you know Dan Plea sak 736 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: I got. I think he got the final out for 737 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: the Phillies that game they were playing the Braves that 738 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: Dan Pleaesack recorded the final out by a Phillies pitcher 739 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 2: in Veterans Stadium history. I remember after afterwards, Jim, they 740 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 2: had that postgame ceremony, and I remember Larry Boa jumping 741 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: enthusiastically on the home plate for the final time. That 742 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 2: was it. It was. It was a cool day and 743 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 2: it is funny. We do have some photos. I wish 744 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 2: I had him prepared, but we look a lot younger man. 745 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: I tell you what, it was years ago. 746 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 3: That was a long time ago. I loved the Vet 747 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 3: Press box man, you were right. We were right behind 748 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 3: home plate. We were in. It was like death row 749 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 3: for faul balls. You could get crushed up there. I 750 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 3: almost hit a number of times over the years. Marinald 751 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 3: Duncan man, he could peel him off. Uh you know, 752 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 3: right handed sliders. He would just peel them off and 753 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 3: they'd come right at your head. 754 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: I remember after the games. I think we might have 755 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 2: talked about this once on a show before, but this 756 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 2: is how long ago this was. At the VET post 757 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 2: game they used to serve beer in the press box 758 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: after the game, so you'd come up go down to 759 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 2: the clubhouse. Now, I was so new an inexperienced. I 760 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 2: actually I can I'm not even be asking anybody. I 761 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 2: never had a post game beer at the VET, but 762 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 2: many people did. And you'd come up from the press 763 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 2: box and there'd be some people just kind of having 764 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: a beer after the game in the press box. I'm like, oh, 765 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: this is I guess this is normal. Now, I may 766 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: that never happens. 767 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 3: Never happens. Honestly, it was that way almost every stadium 768 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 3: they had, they had beers in the press box and 769 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: afterward and you'd you know, have a nice you know, 770 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 3: Molson Canadian up in Montreal while you were polishing up 771 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 3: your eight hundred word of recap of that night's game. 772 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 3: But those days are long gone now. 773 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 2: They are long gone now. So but go to go 774 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: I mean really like long long gone. So go to 775 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 2: shibesports dot com backslash tps again for a chance to 776 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 2: win this veteran Stadium T shirt. And and here's another 777 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: reason why you want to enter. 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