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Speaker 6: Today it is our job to talk about Cowboys loss yesterday.

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Speaker 6: They lose on the road to the Atlanta Falcons twenty

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Speaker 6: seven to twenty one. And there are a lot of

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Speaker 6: different little things I think we can take from this game,

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Speaker 6: but let's start first with the big picture, and we're

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Speaker 6: going to go around the table as we usually do,

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Speaker 6: and just give everybody an idea of what you think

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Speaker 6: the story is of this game.

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Speaker 2: Nicholeta's start with.

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Speaker 4: You adding injury to insult, like flip flip, flip the

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Speaker 4: flip the saying, I guess with Dak getting hurt and

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Speaker 4: CD getting hurt, I mean, it's it's kind of a

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Speaker 4: snowball of injuries at the moment.

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Speaker 7: We'll know more today for the.

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Speaker 4: Extent of Dak's hamstring injury and CD's ac joint injury

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Speaker 4: and his shoulder, But definitely two things to keep an

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Speaker 4: eye on. But as far as the game goes, specifically,

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Speaker 4: the offense just couldn't build any rhythm. And we've seen

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Speaker 4: it multiple times this season, and especially coming out in

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Speaker 4: the second half, defense allowing points and then offense not

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Speaker 4: scoring points, and then when you try to throw a

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Speaker 4: fake punt in there that had zero percent.

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Speaker 7: Chance of working.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's that's probably what ends up happening and

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Speaker 4: as the end result. But for me, it was a

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Speaker 4: lack of offensive rhythm. It was never present during the game.

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Speaker 4: They had the one touchdown drive with Dak, and you know,

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Speaker 4: it looked like it was sustaining a drive at that point,

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Speaker 4: but you can't have one drive all day.

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Speaker 8: Teams have figured out you can't block a twist front,

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Speaker 8: you know, and that's gonna be even a team that

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Speaker 8: doesn't get any pressure their Their go to in this

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Speaker 8: game was to move the front and uh and see

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Speaker 8: if you're good enough to handle it. You know, I

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Speaker 8: need to see about with Mike Solari and this group.

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Speaker 3: Are they you know? It seems like to.

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Speaker 8: Me they try and man a lot of these twists,

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Speaker 8: and so what happens is guys get too caught up

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Speaker 8: and then the twisters come around and and that's really

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Speaker 8: what the the Falcons were able to do in this

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Speaker 8: football game to create pressure. The margin of era is

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Speaker 8: very very small for this football team. It just it

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Speaker 8: walks the tightrope on offense, defense, special teams. And I

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Speaker 8: mentioned special teams because you get a really good block,

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Speaker 8: you know, from a kid up off the practice squad

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Speaker 8: with Butler on a punt return and you get turp

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Speaker 3: You know, that's south.

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Speaker 8: That's your margin of era. It's very very small for

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Speaker 8: really really unfortunate because you watch games every week where

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Speaker 8: this is a very talented team, but the margin of

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Speaker 9: Yeah, very frustrating because we're sitting here beginning of November.

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Speaker 9: We have a whole half of the season left, and

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Speaker 9: it's hard to imagine, like even see any kind of

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Speaker 10: And that's the problem right there.

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Speaker 9: We were all asking when is he gonna run? When

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Speaker 8: It's hard to tell because the run that he had,

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Speaker 8: the long run look fine. Yeah, he had two five

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Speaker 8: he really couldn't tell on tape if there was any

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he even said in the postgame press covers, He's like,

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Speaker 4: I'm not even really sure when exactly happened. Yeah, he

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Speaker 6: Know what it looked like to me, And again, I'm

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Speaker 6: immediately I told Nink, I said, Dak looks like he's

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Speaker 2: So it made me think that was the play.

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Speaker 3: That maybe at that play, I'm not sure about that.

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Speaker 3: He was talking about the running play. That's the ones

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Speaker 8: But if you need to go back and look at

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Speaker 8: You know, that's maybe something you could look at and

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about the offense. Let's go into a little

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Speaker 6: You know, it feels like sometimes you look at the numbers.

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Speaker 6: I was actually shocked when the game was over and

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Speaker 6: I saw these numbers with such a high completion percentage,

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Speaker 6: you said, Nick, I didn't think the offense really had

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Speaker 6: would you assess Dax play yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Overall?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was fine up until the third quarter, and

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Speaker 4: I think this is a quarter that has just been

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Speaker 4: of was a problem last year there were bottom third

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Speaker 4: success with that. But talking about Dak specifically, I really

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Speaker 7: For your Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: But other than that, I think, whenever you look at

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Speaker 8: Kind of feel like the ball wasn't going down the

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Speaker 8: Even the ball that Lamb dropped, beautiful throw from you know,

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Speaker 8: But the ball, you know, fourth down, they were throws

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Speaker 8: He took neither of them and Geydon couldn't keep his

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Speaker 8: ball's got to go down the field. Ball's got to go.

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Speaker 8: You can't sit there and think that you've got time

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Speaker 8: You don't have time with this offensive line to sit

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Speaker 8: there and look at every single read. You've got to determine, Okay,

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Speaker 9: It's been a I mean, such a tough season. And

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Speaker 9: But his athleticism, I think it has declined from what

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Speaker 8: Well, they It's like I said to me, sometimes you

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Speaker 8: just like, get the damn first down. You know, just

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Speaker 8: I mentioned your margin of era is so small you

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Speaker 8: But to me, I'm like, get the first down, keep

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Speaker 3: But you got to give Atlanta credit.

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Speaker 8: Ellis made a great play, but they had two other

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Speaker 8: you know the stuff, Like you say the screenplays, there

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Speaker 8: I'm yelling at Mike McCarthy for being a you know,

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Speaker 8: Everything is so hard for this team in all areas

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Speaker 6: Well, I think at the end of the day, I

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Speaker 2: They can't move anybody. They get no game.

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Speaker 6: And I think it's the fact that at some point

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Speaker 6: Like those are not plays that you should necessarily have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not confident that this is not telling anybody

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Speaker 7: It to CD he said that they saw.

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Speaker 4: Things in film during the week that allowed them to

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Speaker 4: see some success running the ball out of shotgun. It's like, okay, yes,

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Speaker 4: I understand that, but you're third and one gun right,

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Speaker 4: you go under because you trust the personnel that you have,

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Speaker 4: you trust the interior offensive line that you have, and

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Speaker 4: you go get one yard. I never understand running the

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Speaker 3: Totally with you on that.

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Speaker 8: Into discussion, someone's like, well, that's part of the West

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Speaker 3: I go, bs, I go. I was.

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Speaker 8: I was in the I was in that West Coast offense.

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Speaker 8: They used to hand the ball to Tom Rathman or

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Speaker 8: that to your point, Yeah, the thirty one play, they

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Speaker 8: They don't they don't handle the they don't sort it

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Speaker 8: it's just it's it's it's it's mind numbing sometimes some

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Speaker 2: Got hit and it just they just started to smutter.

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Speaker 6: And that's the thing, like, even when you saw that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just kind of slow plays it. So plays

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Speaker 6: All right, let's talk about Rico Daddell. Yesterday he was

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Speaker 6: twelve twelve carries for seventy five yards a six point

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Speaker 6: three average. Really, he was the running back for them yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Nobody else had more than two designed runs in that game,

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Speaker 6: including including Cook. That all being said, do you think

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Speaker 6: that this is starting to be proof that if the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys would just rely on one back, ric o'dowdele. He

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Speaker 6: is their best running back that maybe they can get

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Speaker 6: again a decent running game. They don't have to have

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Speaker 6: a great running game, but a decent running game, and

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Speaker 6: it can be at least productive enough for them to

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Speaker 6: get things going as they should be going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I agree.

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Speaker 4: I think at this point, if they don't make a

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Speaker 4: move before tomorrow to bring another guy into that room,

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Speaker 4: I think you just start handed the ball to Rigo

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Speaker 4: Dawdle twelve fifteen, eighteen times a game, just to let

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Speaker 4: him build confidence. I sent still you were in the

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Speaker 4: Rico scrum, yesh I since a little frustration from him

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Speaker 4: from how the season has kind of played out, and

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Speaker 4: then this kind of being his moment of being like see,

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Speaker 4: I was telling you. Somebody had asked him, do you

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Speaker 4: feel like whenever you get the carries throughout the course

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Speaker 4: of the game, you were able to sustain momentum. He's like,

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Speaker 4: That's what I've been trying to say, Like I'm a

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Speaker 4: guy that when I get my carries, I get better

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Speaker 4: as the game goes on. I need that to get going.

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Speaker 4: He was very honest about that. So it kind of

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Speaker 4: just I was looking around, like interesting, so he's right.

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Speaker 3: He's right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard the same thing, and I kind of

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Speaker 6: it kind of raised my eyebrow to a little bit,

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Speaker 6: like I wonder how much does he is he really?

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Speaker 2: Has he been saying that? Has he been found?

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Speaker 10: You've said that before.

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Speaker 9: I've heard him say that before weeks and weeks ago,

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Speaker 9: and I mean I just thought I didn't think much

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Speaker 9: of it, because it's like, yeah, typically if you the

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Speaker 9: more you do it, the more rhythm you can get.

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Speaker 9: So but I mean, this whole seekh thing that happened,

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Speaker 9: it makes you wonder what's going to happen here in

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Speaker 9: the running back room after what happened this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Brian, what do you think of the whole Zeke thing?

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Speaker 8: You know, I think there's a lot to it, and

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Speaker 8: I don't think it's just about meetings and missing meetings

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Speaker 8: and things like that. I think there's a lot more

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Speaker 8: to this. And you know, I'm probably not my not

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Speaker 8: my area to get into, you know, but there's some

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Speaker 8: things that other people will get into and uh, you know,

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Speaker 8: they'll figure all this out. I know there's some some

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Speaker 8: legitimate concern for Zeke, uh you know, in the organization

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Speaker 8: about this whole situation and what he's dealing with and

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Speaker 8: stuff right now. But like I said, it's, uh, it's

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Speaker 8: something that probably needs to be taken care of here

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Speaker 8: in the next few days if they can.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's not one thing. I think that's probably

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Speaker 7: the biggest thing to take away from what you said there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all.

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Speaker 6: It was kind of a shock that it all went

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Speaker 6: down the way that it did. Him not obviously traveling

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Speaker 6: with the team obviously. I don't think it would have

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Speaker 6: been a surprise to anyone if he would have been inactive,

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Speaker 6: because I think the reality is we we started to

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Speaker 6: hear little things last week from Mike McCarthy about running.

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Speaker 2: Back by committee. He said, I'm not.

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Speaker 6: Really into that. I don't think that's the best way

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Speaker 6: to go, So we kind of could have. Now in retrospect,

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Speaker 6: you'll like, well, he was intimating that they were going

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Speaker 6: to stick with Rico in this game, and they felt

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Speaker 6: like that was going to be the best option. So

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Speaker 6: at that point, it is, it doesn't surprise me if

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Speaker 6: if Zeke is inactive, because if you're going to do that,

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Speaker 6: then Rico's your guy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there's like you say, there's there's been

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Speaker 8: reports you know, and Nick and done a fine job

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Speaker 8: with his reporting as well. I just kind of feel

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Speaker 8: like that this is something, like I said just a

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Speaker 8: little earlier, it needs to be taken care of now,

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Speaker 8: you know, they need to either do what they need

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Speaker 8: to do to move on or try and get the situation.

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Speaker 8: I kind of feel like that I don't see this

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Speaker 8: as being just like you said, the one one thing.

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Speaker 8: This is just a culmination of a lot of things.

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Speaker 8: But man, they need to make a decision on this.

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Speaker 8: They really do.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 4: I hate to see this, I really do from the

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Speaker 4: a Zeke that we have gotten used to seeing since

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Speaker 4: twenty sixteen and to you know, have this type of

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Speaker 4: reunion and it be an opportunity for them to kind

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Speaker 4: of be able to find each other, not only the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys and Zeke, and then at the end of the

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Speaker 4: day it's just not worked.

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Speaker 7: So it's sad to see at the end of the day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's one of the tough things about bringing bringing

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Speaker 6: a guy back that you already kind of let go

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Speaker 6: because it does have the potential that they didn't go

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Speaker 6: really wrong, because it does kind of bring up if

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Speaker 6: things don't go right, you can bring up a lot

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Speaker 6: of old feelings, and that's when you really start getting

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Speaker 6: into tough situation.

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Speaker 8: These players struggle too, you know. I mean you can

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Speaker 8: hold their hand and watch over them here while they're

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Speaker 8: at the Star. It's when they leave the Star that

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Speaker 8: you've got to be a little bit, you know, a

570
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Speaker 8: little bit mindful of you know, like, hey, what's you

571
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Speaker 8: don't always get to kind of you know, run their

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Speaker 8: lives and when they're off the field, and so you know,

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Speaker 8: those are things that you have to deal with. I

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Speaker 8: mean I dealt with as a personal guy everywhere I've been.

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Speaker 8: You know, they off the field stuff can can really

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Speaker 8: really hurt you with your players, and that can hurt

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Speaker 8: you with.

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Speaker 3: Your locker room.

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Speaker 9: Well, and we were talking about this right before the game.

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Speaker 9: It's like, this is the kind of drama that happens

581
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Speaker 9: when you're losing games and everybody's in a bad mood.

582
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Speaker 9: People start pointing fingers. You're not happy of what this

583
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Speaker 9: person's doing or that person is doing because you think

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Speaker 9: you're right, you know, and that's you think.

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Speaker 2: You could be better, You think you could be a

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Speaker 2: part of the solution. There's a lot of that.

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Speaker 9: Maybe they give you more, give me the chance, let

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Speaker 9: me keep trying and maybe then so and again this

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Speaker 9: is just in general, this is the kind of stuff

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Speaker 9: that happens, and it sucks when things like that start

591
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Speaker 9: occurring and not everyone is on the same page.

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Speaker 10: But this is where we're at.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so much of the drama that that the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: have experienced this year is a result of that. It's

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Speaker 6: the levels of frustration. What happen with Trayvon, Like that

596
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Speaker 6: was just frustration. You lose and you get on these

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Speaker 6: losing streaks and things aren't going well and you're losing

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Speaker 6: guys to injury, Like, people get frustrated and sometimes that

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Speaker 6: that ends up being more dramatic than it would be

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Speaker 6: if you're winning, when you just kind of like let

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Speaker 6: things go by the way. Trayvon's had moments when people

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Speaker 6: have talked bad about him before. When you win in

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Speaker 6: twelve and five on a season, he's kind of like, whatever,

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Speaker 6: I don't care what that does.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: It's just it's different when you when you lose it. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: when you're when you're losing, it just creates a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of nobody to hear. Nobody wants to hear they're

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Speaker 3: doing a poor job.

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Speaker 7: Or the reason for the losing, the reason for the losing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and you know we you know, I mean, trust me,

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Speaker 8: I I we all work in a business in the

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Speaker 8: media where I mean, I know with radio we have

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Speaker 8: the texts and all that and the fandom. Those folks

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Speaker 8: can ruin your day. You know, they really can't. And nobody,

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Speaker 8: if you read it, yeah, nobody, and I choose. You know,

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Speaker 8: there's certain like certain comments I go look at it podcasts,

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Speaker 8: and people will ruin your day. They absolutely will. They

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Speaker 8: you know, like you know, you make a comment and

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Speaker 8: it makes you wonder, why why am I even comment?

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Speaker 8: Why am I even trying to Why am I trying.

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Speaker 3: To educate people? It's it's my job.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, people, people can find a way to ruin

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Speaker 8: your day. They really can't.

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Speaker 6: All right, We're gonna take our final break. We will

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Speaker 6: come back and what flip, what are the other side

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Speaker 6: of the field of the ball. We want to talk

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Speaker 6: a little bit about this defense and we certainly have

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Speaker 6: It is the final segment of the Breakwayer Live from

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Speaker 6: s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Style. Let's talk about

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Speaker 6: the defense. Yesterday they held Atlanta. It's one hundred yards

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Speaker 6: rushing b Jon Robinson held to nineteen carries for eighty

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Speaker 6: six yards of four.

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Speaker 2: Point five average.

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Speaker 6: Although it sounds like a pretty good day with this

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Speaker 6: rushing defense. I think it was a win. I would

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Speaker 6: call it a win. What would you guys say about

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Speaker 6: their their play yesterday?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you could say it's a win. The thing

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Speaker 4: that's creeping in the back of my mind is the

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Speaker 4: double digit mistackles like those eighty six yards from Jon

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Speaker 4: Robinson could have easily be fouw.

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Speaker 2: Let's also put that in context. That's Bejon gay it

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Speaker 2: is that now.

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Speaker 6: If they hadn't had a mistackle problem all season, I'd

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Speaker 6: be like, that's all Bejeon because that's who Bjeon Robinson is.

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Speaker 2: But just wanted to put that in.

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Speaker 4: And and they did a good job against Tyler Algier,

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Speaker 4: which we were talking about it during the week. He's

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Speaker 4: more the physical guy. He'll run down your throat six

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Speaker 4: carries eighteen yards three yards of pop. So I think

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Speaker 4: they did a good job in limiting Algier's physicality. But yeah, Bjon,

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Speaker 4: he's gonna get his But whenever you have your your

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Speaker 4: arms around his legs or arms around his midsection, you

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Speaker 4: gotta bring him down because if you don't, he will

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Speaker 4: you pay.

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Speaker 7: He will make you pay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that's that's a that's a tough ask.

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Speaker 8: And you know, you really you caught a break with

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Speaker 8: Drake London being knocked out of that game. And but

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Speaker 8: at that quarterback, he's super efficient the way he plays,

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Speaker 8: He's very comfortable moving guys around. They took advantage of

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Speaker 8: your rookie out there the left corner. I have seven targets,

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Speaker 8: seven receptions, and you know, and and you just worry

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Speaker 8: sometimes about his confidence.

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Speaker 3: He was really you know, I mean.

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Speaker 8: You had a chance, he had him backed up and

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Speaker 8: they flipped the ball to the outside and he's got it.

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Speaker 8: He's two yards two yards you know, from making a

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Speaker 8: tackle right there, and and and and you know, now

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Speaker 8: making them punt deep in their own territory, said they

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Speaker 8: extend to drive, you get to run some more time

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Speaker 8: off the clock and punt the ball down the other

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Speaker 8: end of your your field. But you know, he's just

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Speaker 8: he's really struggling with and he hasn't played. I mean,

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Speaker 8: he plays and then he's out and then you know

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Speaker 8: he's got a shoulder problem. So how much is he

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Speaker 8: willing to tackle? And I'm just talking about him, you know,

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Speaker 8: but you've i mean, you've got some you know, some

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Speaker 8: of the things that we talked about they did, and

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Speaker 8: that always makes me happy when we bring up the

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Speaker 8: fact that they use mccuamu a little bit on pits.

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Speaker 3: That's something we talked about.

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Speaker 8: And you know, the first yeah, the first he had

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Speaker 8: one catch, the first, yeah, kuamu. They shoveled around on

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Speaker 8: him and and and that's that on pits.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 8: They brought over shown one time on a just a

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Speaker 8: straight rush and it was the first third down of

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Speaker 8: the game and they got off the field and they

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Speaker 8: didn't do anything after that since. And you know, he

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Speaker 8: makes you wonder. You know, you're just kind of like, damn,

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Speaker 8: we told you to cover pits with a taller guy.

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Speaker 8: Well done, Bring this guys a rusher. They'll have problems

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Speaker 8: blocking him. They did all incomplete and well done. Now

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Speaker 8: you're off the field, and then you're like the rest

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Speaker 8: of the game, you're guy going where is this?

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Speaker 3: Where is that?

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Speaker 4: And want to fill is a product of Carl Lawson

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Speaker 4: getting home a few times and then.

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Speaker 3: Carl give Carl lost in some credit.

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Speaker 2: Carl.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, oh so Diggy Sewah played a

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Speaker 8: really good game, you know, and last you were expecting

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Speaker 8: that against the forty nine ers. He played like he

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Speaker 8: he should have played against the forty nine ers. He

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Speaker 8: played like against the Falcons. You know, he was he

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Speaker 8: was very disruptive. You know, he was a really good

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Speaker 8: player for him overshown.

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Speaker 3: Those guys did a nice job. Yeah, you know, but

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Speaker 3: you just didn't have enough of that.

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Speaker 6: I said that last week about Osa, that you know,

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Speaker 6: if there was I think it was one of the

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Speaker 6: games we were playing. We asked the question, what would

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Speaker 6: you change right now that you don't think they will,

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Speaker 6: And I was like, man, go hard at defensive tackle

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Speaker 6: because I'm not happy with either one right now.

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Speaker 2: I think I could get more out of out of

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Speaker 2: Osa even right.

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Speaker 6: And surely enough, yesterday he showed me exactly what I'm like.

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Speaker 6: If you give me that every week, that's that's what

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Speaker 6: I want, because you put that with the pieces that

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Speaker 6: you're missing right now in defense.

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Speaker 2: Now you're working with something. But that's also Osa. Like

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Speaker 2: Osa has been throughout his career, He's had games like that.

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Speaker 2: This is not new. He can play those kinds of games.

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Speaker 6: I just want to see it as consistently as he

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Speaker 6: showed yesterday. I wanted to be able to put that

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Speaker 6: together game after game after game because he's definitely got

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Speaker 6: the talent.

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Speaker 4: And this is an important year for him being a

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Speaker 4: contract here, so he needs to really stay these games.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, if we're looking at a situation now,

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Speaker 4: and if you're a fan out there and you're saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: this team's not gonna make the playoffs, what is there

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Speaker 4: to keep watch at keep watching these expiring contracts because

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Speaker 4: the better that these guys play down the stretch is

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Speaker 4: a little more likely that these guys will be back

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Speaker 4: next season. Oh so Digizua, I think, is a perfect

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Speaker 4: case of that. You look at him expiring deal. Okay,

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Speaker 4: if he can stack games like he had against Atlanta yesterday,

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Speaker 4: maybe there's a situation where he's back as a three

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Speaker 4: tech next season.

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Speaker 2: Or is he go the other way?

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Speaker 20: Though?

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you that.

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Speaker 8: It's happened in his career where he plays, he's a

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Speaker 8: very good, like college player, He plays thirteen really good weeks,

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Speaker 8: and then the from week fourteen through seventeen there seems

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Speaker 8: to be a little drop off in play. Maybe it's

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Speaker 8: going the other way. I hope for his sake, he

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Speaker 8: might be in a situation where he's thinking, like every

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Speaker 8: week that I don't perform it's probably costing me money

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Speaker 8: in my pocket, not just with the Dallas Cowboys, but

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Speaker 8: with the Indianapolis Colts, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the San

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Speaker 8: Francisco forty nine ers, whoever else is looking for a

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Speaker 8: defensive tackle three technique. If my tape is not good enough,

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Speaker 8: it's hard for people to give you a whole lot

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Speaker 8: of money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I start wondering about.

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Speaker 6: To your point, Nick, is if a person like him

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Speaker 6: that has an expiring contract plays really, really well down

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Speaker 6: the stretch, does it end up putting him out of

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Speaker 6: the range of what the Cowboys are willing to pay,

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Speaker 6: Because again, you.

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Speaker 2: Got you already got a guy in dak.

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Speaker 6: Who's making a ton of money, and then CD and

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Speaker 6: you're thinking you got to get Micah and Micah done

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Speaker 6: at some point, and Trayvon's already been paid. Like there,

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Speaker 6: it's only so much money they talk about all the time.

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Speaker 6: You only got so much in the pie. If he

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Speaker 6: starts getting that point where he's starting to get really

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Speaker 6: good and teams are looking at him like on this

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Speaker 6: second contract, he's one of the best defensive tackle three

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Speaker 6: techniques out there, the number might push up higher than

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Speaker 6: what you.

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Speaker 3: Can do happened George Armstrong?

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Speaker 8: I believe I think George Armstrong got out of the

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Speaker 8: ability for them to pay him.

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Speaker 10: What you know, so and if that happens, then good

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Speaker 10: for him.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely work and.

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Speaker 9: You know you want to wish all of them well

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Speaker 9: at the end of the day and in their career

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Speaker 9: and get the most money they can, especially at such

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Speaker 9: position that you don't always get paid the highest in

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Speaker 9: that regard. But overall, I think it's to me looking

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Speaker 9: at this game, and there are many, many different kinds

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Speaker 9: of frustration.

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Speaker 10: But to know that.

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Speaker 9: The final score and the score looks so much nicer

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Speaker 9: than what the actual game was and looked like. But

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Speaker 9: and it's happened throughout the season, You've had games in

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Speaker 9: your hands. Yes, the defense has not played well, but

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Speaker 9: they've done just enough, especially taking into consideration the amount

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Speaker 9: of injury that they've sustained this season. But yet it

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Speaker 9: just all comes back to the offense not doing enough

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Speaker 9: for you. Imagine with all these closed games, had the

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Speaker 9: offense scored just one more time, two more times, how

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Speaker 9: we would be sitting here in a completely different scenario.

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Speaker 9: Had you had Dak running the ball a lot earlier

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Speaker 9: in the season, we would potentially be here in the

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Speaker 9: total different scenario. Same with the running run in back situation.

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Speaker 9: I feel like you should have figured that out a

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Speaker 9: long time ago and not here trying to play like Okay,

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Speaker 9: who do who? Who are we going to plug in?

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Speaker 9: And I mean all these Yeah. So it's just it's

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Speaker 9: just weird because sometimes I feel like I'm going crazy

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Speaker 9: in the sense of like, men, I feel like all

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Speaker 9: of us see these things weeks ago, and then it's

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Speaker 9: just like they're running behind like a like like a

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Speaker 9: few weeks behind of us of what we're seeing as

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Speaker 9: far as like when they decide to start making some

880
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 9: of these changes or trying some of these things.

881
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 10: So it's just it's so annoying. It's so annoying because.

882
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 9: I truly feel like there are a lot of talented

883
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 9: players on this team. We've seen them play at a

884
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 9: very high level. And to think that you've wasted all

885
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 9: these opportunities where you could be standing very at a

886
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 9: very very different position right now and you're just you're

887
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 9: just not.

888
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 10: So it's just I don't know.

889
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 8: What sucks, depending on if they make a coaching change,

890
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 8: and we'll see if they do, but they need to

891
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 8: revamp the whole entire defensive tackle room in my opinion,

892
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 8: that that that that needs to that. Whoever, whatever, if

893
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 8: the new coach comes in and he's maybe it's a

894
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 8: defensive coach or he brings in an offensive coach, brings

895
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 8: in a defensive coordinator that has an idea this this

896
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 8: this tackle room needs to be. If if Os goes

897
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 8: and Mazzie Smith goes, and Linvil Joseph goes and.

898
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 3: All that, that to me, that's I have no problem

899
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: with that. But they're going to.

900
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 8: Have to redo that whole room in my.

901
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 9: Opinion and my under Oh sorry, I was going to

902
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 9: my understanding and correct me if I'm wrong. But money wise,

903
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 9: we're worse off right now for this upcoming free agency

904
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 9: than we were last.

905
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 4: Year right back, and CD gives you a lot of

906
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 4: flexibility in that sense. We'll kind of see how everything

907
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 4: shakes out.

908
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: Though.

909
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 4: I think there's going to be more opportunity, but there's

910
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 4: that's too early.

911
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: Really.

912
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of money that's that's on

913
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 6: the books that you can't get rid of because of

914
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 6: uh that was already money that was gonna be that's

915
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 6: gonna catch up to.

916
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 3: Well, we've got things kind of earmarks. So it's every

917
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 3: time you think, every time.

918
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 8: You think they have one hundred million dollars in cap space,

919
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 8: it's all spent. Yeah, That's kind of how I And

920
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 8: even when I worked in the organization, that's I'm like, wait,

921
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 8: wait a minute, We've got this amount of money. It's like, no,

922
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 8: that money is already spent, and I'm like, oh okay.

923
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 9: So yeah, and that's that cycle where you you kind

924
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 9: of keep being forced to rely on the draft and

925
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 9: develop those talent. And again, we know the history that

926
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 9: they have in drafting players. They've been really really good

927
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 9: at it. But when that comes time and developing and

928
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 9: all of that. So it's just it's gonna be a

929
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 9: wild one this off season.

930
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 6: All right, real quick, before we end the show, I

931
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 6: do want to get your opinions on that play. The

932
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 6: Cowboys decide on fourth down they're going to try to

933
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 6: run a fake punt. What were your thoughts on just

934
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 6: the decision and then the decision to do that versus

935
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 6: keeping that dak in the offense on the field, if

936
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 6: you're going to go forward and try to convert it

937
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 6: that way.

938
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 4: I it was it was a very clear fake punt situation.

939
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 4: I think first off, so I don't think you were

940
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: necessarily catching anybody off guard because it was the middle

941
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 4: of the field, fourth and short.

942
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 7: I just I don't understand.

943
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 4: Going one on one with c J Goodwin and throwing

944
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 4: up the ball to c J Goodwin one on one.

945
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 7: I don't. I don't understand that personally.

946
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: I I if you had a Jalen Brooks out there, Okay,

947
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 4: that makes a little bit more sense.

948
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: But we have Flinoy on the other side.

949
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 7: Side six probably the better option.

950
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he had absolutely no shot at that.

951
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 4: Also, on fourth down fake punt situations, pass interference is

952
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 4: not a thing, so he can just mug him and

953
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,479
Speaker 4: be completely legal. So I don't I don't understand throwing

954
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 4: it up one on one in that situation. I think

955
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: I would try to get the personal protector who was

956
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 4: one day Thomas and then it was Marque Spell after

957
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: Thomas came out, get him out in the flat or

958
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: something like that instead.

959
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 7: That's it was.

960
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: There was.

961
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 8: There was no doubt he was just going to catch

962
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 8: the ball and throw it no matter what. Yeah, almost

963
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 8: ended up being a pick six.

964
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 16: It did.

965
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: I mean it really should have been probably, you know.

966
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's and you mentioned Flinoy. He's the gunner

967
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 8: on the other side of the field. He's six ' three,

968
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 8: he's a wide receiver. He's used to running routes. He's

969
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 8: used to kind of pushing off and going up and

970
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 8: getting the ball vertically like that play maybe high point

971
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 8: in the ball. To me, that's kind of a mismanagement

972
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 8: if you're if you're going to do stuff like that,

973
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 8: give yourself the best chance. Taller receiver against a smaller corner.

974
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 8: That's what they had on the outside there. But they

975
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 8: went corner against corner and it was too easy to

976
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 8: play for them to have to make it's.

977
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: Three yards, why not just drag you know, Yes, it's

978
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 4: uh harder than it needs to be.

979
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 9: Be careful what you asked for. We've been asking for creativity.

980
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 9: I mean, give them credit. It was kind of quote

981
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 9: unquote different.

982
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 6: Should we ask for success rights creative success with.

983
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 10: Those objectives that you use, and.

984
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 8: I just want success. I don't know, I don't care

985
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 8: if it's creative or not.

986
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 3: Just give me success, Dallas.

987
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: That was a tough one.

988
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: All right.

989
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 6: We appreciate you, guys, Joing. So we'll be back tomorrow.

990
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 6: Brian's gonna have a little game for us. Uh, we're

991
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 6: going it's funny, go inside the brain of Brian brought

992
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 6: us and we'll move on. We'll move this this thing

993
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Speaker 6: along into the next one. The Philadelphia Cowboys will play

994
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 6: the Eagles next weekend at at and T Stadium. So

995
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Speaker 6: till tomorrow for Nick Harris. Brian brought us in, Ambergarciam

996
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997
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