WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Training Camp Updates 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:06.640 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:22.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. The field He's Hanging 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:27.240 with the Boys presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:36.880 its wings. Cowboys Football is back. Training camp is officially 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.880 underway in Oxnard, California. We've got a very special edition 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:42.960 of Hanging with the Boys. And I could already tell 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.400 the moment I walked into this podcast studio was gonna 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:52.440 be an incredible time. We've got the Hawaiian silk. Don't 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:56.400 take it from you, Jake, I listen. I have to 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:00.480 let know we gotta eight mile ourselves first. For heck 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.920 can get on us. You know, if you file yourself first, 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.600 you're good. You're good. So so I got it. I 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:08.039 got it out of the way, so you can't get 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.560 it right off the bad Jesse, Isaiah standback. Heck my Harrison, 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.000 I'm Danny. So this is Hanging with the Boys. And 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.640 later on we'll have a live report out from practice 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.039 from training camp with Nate Newton. So stick around for 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.120 that guy's first practice today. I mean it's it's no pads. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.560 It's more like, you know, the OTA's kind of walking through. 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:27.520 But man, it feels good. That we're going to see 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.840 the whole team out there first practice, leaning into the season. 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.160 It's like Christmas in July, right we let we wait 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.520 for this moment holiday right now, we wait for this 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.200 moment for it to come. And you know, you hear 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.800 all the stories you go through the draft, the OTAs, 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.280 the mini camps. This guy's putting his video out, this 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.080 person's putting their video out, and all these things are happening. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.800 Cowboys putting content out on the website. And now we're here. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.840 So all of the hooplah, all of the talk, all 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.360 of that stuff, now it was time to put up 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.280 a shut up. And this is the part that gets 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.840 me super excited. Yeah, it's officially doing it for the 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.280 gram is over. Yes, doing it for the grammar is over. 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:06.920 Now all the work that guys have been putting in 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:08.760 this offseason, um, it's time to show up and you 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.960 know show out. Obviously it's count down to preseason games. Um, 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:13.720 it's been a while since guys have been in position 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.959 to actually put up and actually show what they can do. 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.040 Especially these guys that are kind of on an edge 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:19.919 on a bubble looking for those opportunities. It's time for 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.920 them to go Man, where's the mixtape coming out? Brother? 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.320 Ya come on minute, y'all came in the studio. Let's switch. 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.080 Look at y'all. They got the other the same side 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.160 as I love it. They both got arms sets in 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:43.520 this morning, yage real. Yeah, we smell each other. I 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.080 love it. Man. It's you know, everything is getting started. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.160 Like you said, Man, it's Christmas, sin't July. You know. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.480 It's good to see the Cowboys back working. You know. 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.200 The expectations are not lofty at all for this team. 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.680 They got They got a bunch, you know, and it 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.720 looks like with the NFC East they have, they're in 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.520 prime position to to do some great things. If they 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:08.920 can get through training camp healthy. That's the That's the 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.840 number one thing, and it and the depth in health 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.280 is what's what this training camp is should be all about, 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.040 especially for this team all those injuries they had last year. 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.400 Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, head coach Mike McCarthy had an 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:24.200 hour long opening press conference yesterday, and I feel like 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.920 they only skimmed the surface on so many different topics. 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.519 But just right off the bat that first press conference, 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.720 what stood out to you a little because I don't 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.520 I can't get in trouble in July. I have to. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.200 I have to save my visit to the principal's office 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.560 at least until October. Now, I know for me, I 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.000 mean obviously you know, Jerry loves the fans. He loves 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.160 the people right as as as he's been that way 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.200 since he stepped foot um here in Dallas. And I 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.640 think that if anything stood out, it was his excitement 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.360 for getting back to Oxner. It was no um it 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.920 was it was no secret by any means, UM and 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.400 he was He showed it, um that when when he 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.280 actually started talking about you know, being there on site, 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.120 you know, the access that he's given, you know to 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.400 obviously hard knocks and having fans on site again and 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.000 just being there in the midst of that, um, you know, 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.120 we've been knocking her and talking about you know, talking 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.160 about the facilities and how it's just he's just he's 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.360 he's hype, he's ready to go. I mean, I think 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.880 everything that's surrounding this, it's been that's a long year 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.360 and a half, two years for me, for mister Jones, 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.480 and to not have people around him in their regarden. 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.200 I think he's just hyped his show off all his 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.000 new toys. Yeah, I was really excited to hear some 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.440 of his stories talking about back in the day with 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.760 Jimmy and all of that. I mean, I'm from Dallas, 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.080 so you think about when he purchased the team and 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.000 how it divided the city, came and fired text Ram, 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.320 you know, Tom Landry, all of those things that he 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.359 was accumulating enemies it quicker than he possibly could. And 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.880 now the success that he's had has basically driven this 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.159 franchise forward. And just to hear those stories again, things 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.279 that we didn't have a thirty for thirty or Deep 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.440 Blue on things like that back in the day. So 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.440 hearing him talk about that era and then hearing him 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.760 talk about Barry and Jim me and for me as 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.640 a Cowboy fan, obviously the nostalgia around all of that, 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.560 because these are legendary conversation. This isn't I was talking 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.479 to a nobody. He's talking about guys that are Hall 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.599 of famers. Yeah. And then Jerry told that story about 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.440 how right after he had let Jimmy go and he 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.680 brought Barry Switzer in and Barry shows up to his 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.119 office and that he keeps just asking where's Jimmy where's Jimmy. 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:22.560 And Jerry's like, well, what do you need to talk 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.599 about before Jimmy's not here? And Barry says to Jerry, 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.680 I need to know how you guys mess this up. 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:33.400 I thought you was gonna drop it. I thought I'm 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.240 not going to the principal the first one, thank you, 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.440 thank you, and then Jerry saying, you know, he still 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.520 doesn't know, you know, really how they messed it up. 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.440 But it does kind of sound a little different than 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.640 you know, the fact that he's talking about Jimmy and 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.280 he had really high praises for him, and of course 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.719 Jimmy's being inducted into the Hall of Fame and a 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.840 few short weeks, a couple of days really, so that'll 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.799 be exciting um, And Jerry was saying, no, they'll probably 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.840 do something to kind of celebrate him going into the 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.560 Hall of Fame, so that'll be really great too. And 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.520 he was really emotional. There were multiple times where you 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.719 started to see the tears start to come out, and 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:10.960 I think he was just come on, Jeff, So we 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.000 bought the tears, right, Yeah, you bought the tears, Danny? 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:16.720 Did you buy the tears? I bought the tears in 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.400 the part where he was saying when he was at 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.840 home last year, not knowing if he was going to 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.120 find himself an ox Earn again talking in front of 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.000 the media. I believe that like he we've said it before, 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.960 like he loves this whole atmosphere and the vibes of 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:32.920 it all and talking to the media and having the intention, 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.520 I think not having that last year and not Jerry 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.400 still be respect for it. You don't know how many 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.800 years anyone has and I be at home. I think 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.000 that those are the tears I believed of Like he 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.159 didn't know he was going to be here this year, 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.400 and he was excited about that. First of all, Jerry's 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.479 going to outlive all of us. Make that clear. He's 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.840 going to outlive all of us. He is made a deal, 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.880 he got access, he had access to the to the 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.880 higher to the higher courts. But to me, and this 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:06.000 is just for me, I think Jerry is the best 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:10.880 salesman slash showmen that we have in all of sports. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.080 There is no one on the face of this earth 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.360 when it comes to putting on a show and to 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.480 selling something that does it better in the world of 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:26.320 sports than mister Jerry Jones. Period. Then you add into 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:30.280 the mix. Being back in Oxnard, I have to begin 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.560 to sell this product again. I have to right. People 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.119 are excited about the Cowboys another come out. But Jerry, 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.600 he is always closing the deal. Always, I am always 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:44.360 putting on my best closing the deal face. And I 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.160 just think to me, and I'm not saying that Jerry 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.400 can't get emotional, but the often known tears to me 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:54.680 throughout that press conference HBO being there, and let me 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.480 let me make a bold prediction now before the end 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:01.000 of training camp, before we get through this knock situation, 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.240 because Jerry was hinting at it. And you have to understand, 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.720 Jerry only hints at certain things and kind of gives 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.760 you tidbits about certain things. The old man is very wise. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:15.280 He never missteps, he never misspeaks. He knows exactly what 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.520 he's saying. He's planned it out in his head moment minute, 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.360 months before he even gotten to the MIC. I would 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.880 not be shocked if we hear an announcement by the 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.440 end of training camp that Jimmy's going into the Hall 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:31.000 of Fame to the Ring of Honor this season and 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.480 again because he you know, it comes up and he's like, well, 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.440 I don't want to. So he's just always able to 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:43.079 move the needle emotionally, you know, systematically, that's Jerry Jones. 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.680 So when I see the tears and how he shuts 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.040 them on and turns them off and looks deep into 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.839 the camera and gives a camera that look, I'm just like, 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.040 I'm like, God, this dude is good. I'm like, this 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.520 dude is good. And this is why this is why 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:03.559 the Cowboys are is the recognizable and the most expensive 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.720 franchise in all of sports because the dude at the 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.559 hell nobody sells it better than him. Yeah, you make 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:14.040 a good point. And I thought what was interesting talking 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.199 about with Jerry and what he was saying and kind 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:20.160 of Jimmy and the nineties and the championship years was 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.560 Jerry was saying, well, I'm not going to make comparisons, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.199 but he kind of was because someone had asked him, 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.560 you know, you're always so optimistic, like why do you 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.319 think this is the year that you guys can get 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.160 back to winning? And Jerry said, you know, well, I'm better. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.720 Life is better when I am optimistic. But he did 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:41.080 say that Dak Prescott has the character and the leadership 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.320 qualities that a lot of those players had through those 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.440 championship years and that he feels like things are starting 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.720 to click. I mean, do you guys think it's true 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.760 or you know it could really happen to be you know, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.480 this could be the year. Or is he just being optimistic? 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.440 He said the same thing about Rummy as an owner 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.760 and Slash Gem. I mean, you know, Slash everything. You 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.080 have to be optimistic when you're when you're at the 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:05.760 hell when you're when you're at the head of the 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.920 Dallas Cowboys. There's nothing but optimism, right. I mean, whether 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.320 it's um, it doesn't matter what your roster looks like. 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:13.840 You know, you're always looking up. I don't care if 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.120 you if you're just supposed to just barely make the playoffs, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:17.920 I don't care if you have a roster that shows that, hey, 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.439 you guys are supposed to be the best in the league. 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.079 You're just gonna look up, especially when you just pay 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.520 your quarterback so everything shows, you know, it gives him 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.160 every reason to be optimistic. I think that this roster 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.359 is solid, right, This roster is solid. We know offensively 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.640 that things look really good. We know that defensively, we 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.679 need to see what Quinn brings to the table. Um, 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.760 I know what he's capable of just from by history 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:39.199 with him, but I'm looking forward to seeing how he 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.800 puts these pieces together. So we know that the roster 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.920 is there. But we've seen many times before in every 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.520 sport teams that look great on paper but don't show 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.360 up on the field. So we have to see exactly 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.240 how this goes down. But he has every reason to 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.040 be optimistic and to be hopeful. Um, you know, not 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.520 only just because of the franchise, but also he's getting older. 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.800 He's getting older, right, and that's the reality of it, right, 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.040 People get older, which is why you know, his son 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:02.920 kind of sits, kind of says, you know, at least 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.760 at least one armament away from him now because he's 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.600 he's next man up. So Jerry wants to see this 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.240 thing come to fruition. Um, you know before a father times, 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.800 I'm not mad at him. Well, when you give your 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.160 your quarterback the amount of money that he gave his, 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.840 you bet you gotta be optimistic. You you gotta be 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.520 optimistic about a guy that you think is turning the 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.400 corner in this league to be that apex, that top 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.840 tier quarterback, and so many media outlets are talking about 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.120 where Dak is in the comparison with other quarterbacks in 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:32.959 the league. You have to feel like when you give 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.360 a guy that much money, that he's amongst those guys. 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.920 So gives you a reason to be optimi optimistic. But 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.160 another thing that I took from the presser was when 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.240 he talked about Charles Haley and getting players like that. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.079 I believe that if I'm Jerry, I'm sick of it 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:52.520 answering these questions about yesteryear and trying to get this 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.679 team going towards the future so we don't have to 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.200 continue to talk about it's been twenty five years since 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.120 we've been there. But one thing I take from that 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.640 is if you need players, you need players like Charles Haley. 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:07.480 That's a multifaceted answer, because Charles Haley was dynamic, not 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.760 only on the field but off the field, and he 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:12.920 was the kind of guy that from what I understand 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.079 about Charles Haley, let's look, man, he may have been 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.520 a you know what in the building, but you were 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.720 happy to have him on your team. How many of 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.120 those guys do we have right now? So when you're 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.480 talking about turning this roster, when you're talking about dogs 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.280 when you say what's gonna get you to the next level? 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.600 When you talk about DNA Sanders and those types of 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:34.880 well coach Sanders, you know, guys like that on that level, 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.640 you have to be reminded that you don't have you 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:42.200 don't feel like you have that. But does this new 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.439 draft class have some of those guys on it? Did 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.240 you get any of that in free agency? Are you 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.839 going towards that? Because if the championship, this is a 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:54.360 results driven league, do you have that to get the 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.679 ultimate goal, which is a Lombardi. Yeah, that's a good point. 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.520 And Mike McCarthy was saying tyfically about the defensive rookies 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.000 and free agents they brought in. They feel better about 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.520 the defense this year. They're they're stronger, they're longer. Now 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.160 it's just a matter of can this defense kind of 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.720 work through the kinks of a new defensive coordinator a 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.560 little bit quicker than last year. And we'll touch on 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.840 that a little bit. But one last point of the 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:20.880 press conference yesterday, which you know we should for sure 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.240 bring up and talk about regardless of how people feel 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.080 or anything like that, is the fact that the Cowboys 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.480 are expecting to go beyond that eighty five percent threshold 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.800 of having vaccinations, which is huge for teams because that 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:35.120 starts to take away some of those restrictions that they have. 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:37.959 And Jerry was saying, you know, they have a handful, 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.200 like about five who haven't had at least one shot. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.400 And the reason too, I'm bringing this up is within 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.760 the hour, Tom pallisera from NFL Network, said that the 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.680 NFL justin four this in a tweet. The NFL just 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.880 informed clubs that if a game cannot be rescheduled during 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.680 the eighteen week season in twenty twenty one due to 0:13:55.720 --> 0:14:00.120 a COVID outbreak among unvaccinated players, the team with the 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.760 outbreak will forfeit and be credited with a loss. So 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.640 that's huge. So the fact that the Cowboys are, we 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:08.520 don't know how close they are. You know, they're not 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.920 going to share names, and that's not anyone's business and 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.480 their own decision, but it is important to note that 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.360 the Cowboys feel confident they're going to reach that threshold, 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.640 and that Jerry doesn't feel like where they are right 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.240 now or where they're going to be by the time 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.480 the season starts is going to hinder them in any 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.640 way or be any sort of distraction. Yeah, and you 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.160 and you want that right, You want the guys to 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.000 take care of their business on and off the field. 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.920 And I know that we've we've talked about it at Lens, 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.160 at the Wild of Cooler, at the barbershop. Well, what 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:40.000 Michael Irvin said, you know about guys being selfish if 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:44.960 if you're not doing everything that you can do to 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:52.280 avoid having those distractions, and those you know, and you know, 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.560 Mike's my guy, and Mike's Mike is always going to 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.560 be about winning and his goal is always to win 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.960 the championship. But again, his mindset is a different mindset 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.520 from what these younger kids, these younger generations have and 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.960 what they think about. I think Mike never had to 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.320 deal with this like like in his playing time, Mike 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:18.760 never had to deal with this type of none of 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.960 us have. Yeah, And so it's always funny to me 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.800 to have such a matter of fact in a situation 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.040 where you've never dealt with this, like you've never dealt 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.760 with a situation like this, because I'm sure and we've 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:37.480 heard tons of stories about the things that Michael used 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.120 to do off the field that sometimes hindered his team 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.840 on the field, whether it be suspensions or arrest or 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:45.640 things of that nature. So and I know that he 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.320 goes to practice and no one works harder than him, 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:48.760 his leadership and all that. I know, I get it, 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.520 all that kind of stuff, But you gotta be careful 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.720 being so matter of fact with issues like this because 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:59.840 everyone is dealing with their own personal situation at home 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.960 with you know, how their body may react to it, 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.400 their personal experience. They may have had some family members 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.840 who have been affected by the vaccines they make, you know, 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:13.440 so everything is always you can't make it so matter 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:15.880 of fact. And I get Mike can always stay in 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:21.200 from a place of we always look at that ultimate 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.560 leading position, but he had to just be careful about 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.720 being so matter of fact about things of that nature. 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:30.840 And I'm talking person that are personal to people, to individuals. Yeah, 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:32.520 but when it comes down to players, when you think 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.120 about players like you guys, when when you guys want 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.800 the team, every rep, every down, everything was important to you. 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.960 And so what's a matter of fact is what Tom 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.840 Pellicero just came out with. You know, if something were 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.000 to happen where there's an outbreak and the guys are 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.000 missing games because of it, I understand that. Look, I 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.240 can't tell anybody what to do with their body, right, 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.440 the social constructs of what's going on, those things speaks 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.880 for themselves. We're talking about feetball right now, playing ball, 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.120 all right. And if we're saying that these things are 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.640 gonna stop you from being able to produce on the 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.280 football field, that's all I care about. That's all I 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:06.920 care about, because look, when I take my kids to 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:08.760 school and they tell me, look, they hadn't had the 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.679 musical shot, I go to the doctor to give them 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.440 the musical shot and take them back to school, right, 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.560 That's what I do, because they have to learn. We're 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.960 talking about football right now, and so if this is 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.879 going to impact the results driven business that we are 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.399 in in any kind of way, if you are leaning 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.440 away from that, then that may be something that impacts 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:29.640 your football future, right, And so I know, Look, we're 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.640 talking about life and death absolutely all right. We're talking 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.000 about life and death as it relates to this. But 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.399 I'm just talking about the nuances of football, how this 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.399 affects your team. And I think that's where a matter 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:43.320 of fact, Ley Michael Irvin was talking about. Yeah, I'm 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.080 I'm gonna stay out of this one for God, because 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.760 I have my feelings about about this topic, and I'll 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:49.520 get into principal's officer. For the most part, I mean 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.320 it it is I mean what Heckman just said, it 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.359 is true, right, what you just said, it is true. 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:55.800 Everybody can have their opinions, right when it comes to 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.040 this whole vaccination thing. The league has their stance. The 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.040 reality is we have a vaccine that's been out for 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.680 a year, and there's there's there's there's some information, right, 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:06.800 but we don't know long standing things. So guys that 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.679 stay in behind not getting it, I respect them. Guys 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.199 that decide to get it, I respect them. Right. But 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.439 either way, I think um and the organization of the 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.000 NFL has every right within their being that they owned 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.680 the league to say what's mandated and what's not man right, Um, 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.280 there are consequences to not getting on board with that, right, 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.919 whether you agree with those consequences or not. Everybody has 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.160 a choice. So you can choose to get the vaccine 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.320 or you can choose not to get the vaccine. There's 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.240 consequences either way. Um, But I think everybody should be 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.959 respected regardless of what they what they decide to do, 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.080 because it is so personal. Um, and there are you know, 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.160 obviously people have died with the COVID people have died 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.320 with the COVID shot. So everybody has their own takes 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.840 on it. UM principles office. Yeah, but I mean that's 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.680 that's true, right, So I mean, but when it comes 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.960 to the contract of your team, I'm abously rules or rules, 0:18:58.040 --> 0:18:59.600 and you can either get on or you get gone. 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:01.560 That's much when it comes down to. All right, this 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.240 special edition of Hanging with the Boys, with this awesome 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.200 crew is just getting started. On the other side of 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.879 the break, We're gonna call into Nate Newton out at Oxnark, California. 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:11.840 Get your dumb button ready because I have some choice 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:16.600 words for Nate Newton. I do stay with us, honey, 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.880 big news. Gary? Are you okay? Oh? I'm not Gary anymore. 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:23.320 I'm Jackie Flash. What see? 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