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Speaker 1: Welcome back to give them all a podcast. I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's been one hundred years since last week. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be annoying because I have officially given up the

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Speaker 1: vape and I'm tweaking the fuck out. So if you

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Speaker 1: hear me chomping on gum, it may be annoying for you,

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Speaker 1: but life saving for me. So just get the fuck

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Speaker 1: over it.

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Speaker 2: I have some questions. Oh for shooting.

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Speaker 1: I have Heather McDonald's here today. Hi, so excited about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be in the Give Them Laala

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Speaker 2: headquarters here in the heart of West Hollywood. I've got

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Speaker 2: everybody here, I've got the brother here.

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Speaker 1: Well you know, Easton's my new co host.

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Speaker 3: Hello Easton, It's good to be here. Happy to be

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Speaker 3: a part of this.

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Speaker 2: Looking cute, I know, hey, thank you and smelling nice

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Speaker 2: greeted me. Put on some cologne for the day.

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Speaker 3: Really appreciate.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate hugging a tall, young, nice smelling man. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for that.

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Speaker 1: I haven't hugged anybody except my brother. That's makes me sad.

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Speaker 2: I have a question about the giving of the vape.

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Speaker 2: All right. I have been dying to get to the

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Speaker 2: place where I felt I could say something to you

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Speaker 2: without selling, like an annoying old gen excerpt that should

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Speaker 2: just shut her old fat trap.

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Speaker 1: Wait, what were you going to say you hated me?

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Speaker 2: I know it's I just think it's an I understand

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Speaker 2: how addictive it is. I understand that a lot of

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Speaker 2: people start doing it and their friends are doing it,

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Speaker 2: and they think it's like, you know, oh, hey, it

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Speaker 2: was a vape, it's not a cigarette, and this and that.

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Speaker 2: I actually just was saying on my show today. I

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Speaker 2: was like, I think the new thing is that old

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Speaker 2: cigarettes are going to come back. That's going to be

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Speaker 2: the real I don't give a fuck, you know, And

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Speaker 2: I really hope that doesn't happen either. But you know,

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Speaker 2: we know how bad it is for everybody. We do, Yes,

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Speaker 2: we do. It's very bad our lungs and everything. It's

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Speaker 2: so so bad.

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Speaker 1: No, it's really it's just like a.

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Speaker 2: Really bad habit. I think it like takes away from

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Speaker 2: think it looks good.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it looks for it's definitely trashy. And

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Speaker 1: it started getting so bad that I'd be in like

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Speaker 1: meetings with like Cia, like smacking my vape. It was

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Speaker 3: I just felt like I needed Well, that's.

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Speaker 4: My biggest thing is seeing girls, like very attractive women

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Speaker 3: Already it's off so trashy. Yeah, it ruins a photo.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, even though you were doing it too.

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Speaker 1: Quiz it, I used to never bought one.

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Speaker 4: He just like kind of yeah, I would just steal

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Speaker 1: But he was like a person that you wanted to, like,

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Speaker 1: please just go buy a vape. I've never smoked, well,

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Speaker 2: But like, who was the first person that were like,

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Speaker 2: let me try this.

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Speaker 3: You started on the jewel.

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Speaker 2: I think I just went different between a jewel and

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Speaker 1: My jewel is the vape. It was just like it

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Speaker 1: was vast But these fools. Easton and his friend Landon

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Speaker 1: talking about how hard it is as their drink and

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Speaker 2: Well I am. I'm super proud of you guys, And

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Speaker 2: to everybody that's sucking on a vape right now listening

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Speaker 2: It's so addictive, which was their plan, you know. But

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Speaker 1: I really gave it up for ocean. I'm imitating you.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about bend the pump rules. You got my

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Speaker 2: about whatever you want to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's keep it all things bravo. I want to

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's do the Vanner prof first, because that's what

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Speaker 2: people want to hear. The initial you're steering the shell,

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Speaker 2: You're send it to Darryl Sweatshirt. So I'm glad that

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Speaker 1: But how did you take what I said? Because a

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Speaker 1: lot of people were saying like, oh, she feels bad. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I believed everything you said because I kind of felt

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Speaker 2: have a real Housewives's ultimate girl Trip moment of like yelling,

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about it tomorrow, and then I wrote, right,

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Speaker 2: so I'm like, let's be good tomorrow. We can't find

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Speaker 2: And also like I was a little buzzed when they

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Speaker 2: My friends were right, but but I see, you know,

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Speaker 3: Did you believe it?

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Speaker 2: I was, I was saying what he walked in, he

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Speaker 1: Then he just went like Katie.

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Speaker 2: But I was think like, what would be so funny if,

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Speaker 1: But this is what I was trying to say to her,

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Speaker 1: to lie, not not to protect you, but to protect him.

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Speaker 1: And again here we are watching her team talk about

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Speaker 2: So everybody wants to cancel someone. Listen, Louis c K's

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Speaker 2: won a Grammy like people.

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Speaker 1: Luisy K won a Grammy for music for stand up.

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Speaker 1: You can win a Grammy for stand up? You mean

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Speaker 2: Grammy like a stand up album?

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Speaker 3: Mm hm, whoa, But I'm.

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Speaker 2: Just saying he was canceled. Everyone hate it on, you know,

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Speaker 2: an And what's weird about the banner pult fans is,

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Speaker 2: even though they like hate Tom Sandoval, won't it be

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Speaker 2: Tom Santival?

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Speaker 1: Of course, I totally get and.

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Speaker 2: Ironic to go to Schwartzen's and whatever people.

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Speaker 1: Want to do to stand of all is not canceled.

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Speaker 1: And yes, was this a huge freaking deal in March

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Speaker 1: But people get over things. This isn't something where it's

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Speaker 1: Where I felt for Raquel was when you're filming a

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Speaker 1: But maybe that's why I don't connect with anyone, because

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's hard to find someone that's down

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Speaker 1: It's very hard.

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Speaker 2: It's a weird thing.

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Speaker 2: No, watch some of it. I don't think you should.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying she's a sociopath. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: It seemed more of a it's sometimes cry for love

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Speaker 2: Now you, yeah, you really don't. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: He got. Now he's your boyfriend. So now if you

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Speaker 2: be mad, but also you're the only person I have.

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00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 2: So that is where I I agree.

439
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 4: But I also feel like if she actually cared about

440
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 4: all of that, she would end it with Sandoval.

441
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: Save herself while she.

442
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, save yourself while you're ahead, and with that last thing.

443
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 4: To me, she just grabbed a shovel and dug Because

444
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 4: if you really care about everybody's feelings, you would have

445
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 4: just ended it with Sandoval because you're gonna find a

446
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 4: million of that fucking guy.

447
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 2: Oh that's depressing, but it's exactly what you said. Are

448
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: they really together? I mean she's been in this place

449
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 2: for now sixty seven or seventy days. No.

450
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: I thought he had this new like blonde Instagram person

451
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: like from Texas.

452
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 3: Or something he's already posting with other girls.

453
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 2: No, they we're seeing like shopping in Austin, and I

454
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 2: don't know, she looked like Erica Jane kind.

455
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 3: Of Oh she wishes she fucking wishes.

456
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: Who knows what these filters in everyone's face. I don't

457
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 2: even like that.

458
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: That's what I can't trust nowadays. No, the filter definitely

459
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: messes you up. Here's where I stand on the very end.

460
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 2: To tell you. Was looking at my phone. He was

461
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 2: doing something because he works with two others were talking

462
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: about and she goes, wait, I just want to show

463
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: you this one that you're trying about different faces. I

464
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 2: don't know why. He goes, Mom, you know what's so

465
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 2: weird is that your phone has like different people that

466
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 2: that I text or whatever. They've highlighted people and for

467
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: them are just very different photos of me. And he goes,

468
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: your phone thinks you're for different. That thinks me a

469
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 2: photo that I found like like that was like twenty

470
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: years ago that I just screamed grabbed because I was like, fuck,

471
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 2: I look good. Another one is like sunglasses, one is

472
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 2: like no makeup, hideous, and one is like lamb and gorgeous.

473
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: And it thinks it's for four different friends of mine.

474
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I'm not gonna go they have done or

475
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 2: anything like.

476
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: Hey, not even the word that you've had done. It's

477
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: the way that you edit, like there are people that

478
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: get into the freaking face tune app and they take

479
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: the entire smoothing tool and they don't zoom it on

480
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: their face to like smooth it out. They just smoothed

481
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: the whole picture and you become one big blur.

482
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like noseless. I love it, like you have no

483
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: no nose. I love that look. But I like that

484
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: you're you're honest and you're like, oh, I whiten my teeth.

485
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 2: You know I'm keeping it real well.

486
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: I mean, because the Bravo posts the original.

487
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 2: About it, I.

488
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: Might as well let you know that I tweaked it

489
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: a bit. I got a text from James after the

490
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: reunion aired and he said, I didn't think we were

491
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: that bad. I'm getting a lot of heat in the

492
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: comment section. Let me read it verbatim. He said, the

493
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: fact that some people on my Instagram have the audacity

494
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 1: to side with those trolls, it blows my mind. We

495
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: weren't even that bad. I thought it was legendary. Now

496
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm getting hate on my ig. Why are we getting hate?

497
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: I never look so I just assumed that what I

498
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: see is real life, and.

499
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: I killed it. I just think they the only kind

500
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: of criticism but then the other side will say, you

501
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: have to understand this was this was the first time

502
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: I ari on A saw I saw you. It in

503
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: only been three weeks. And then when I see when

504
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: somebody writes that, then I see other people coming around

505
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: and going, you're right, you're right, You're right. Everyone else

506
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: has had the two months to process it as being

507
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: just fans of the show. But I thought, I mean

508
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoyed it, and I thought it was juicy,

509
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: and I was like, there were times where I was

510
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: like wait, almost like when I watched like Veep or

511
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 2: something really well written where I'm like, wait a minute,

512
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: I got to hear that line again, Like that was

513
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: just like hold on a second, like this is too amazing.

514
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 2: So there were some some good moments. I mean, when

515
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: you when you were like, yeah, I love Ariana. That's

516
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: why I hate her. Cookie in the back of your car.

517
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: Can I do it again? Oh my gosh.

518
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: People wanted to know why James and I were angrier

519
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: than Arianna. I felt that I was the most angry

520
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: of anybody.

521
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: Well, I think everybody is just that's just part of

522
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: their personality. I mean, the thing about Ariana and you

523
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: and I talked about this right when it went down,

524
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: and I was like, I mean, I re back to

525
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 2: how she's handling it, but like deactivating her Instagram, like

526
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: she's got to like capitalize on this. But in the end,

527
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: I really commend how she handled it, and I think

528
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: people should look at her. God forbids something like this

529
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: ever happens to anybody else to take like two weeks

530
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: to not say or do anything, be with your cocoon

531
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: of people, and then gain that strength to then come

532
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: forward versus like right away crying to an Instagram thing

533
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: writing a long thing about your ex. Like, I mean,

534
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: she really handled it right. And then when she got

535
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: in front of him, she was harsh and she used

536
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: some you know, really derogatory terms rightfully. So but like

537
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: so that's her emo, that is her personality, and the

538
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: show works and everything in the friendship works because you're

539
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: not all Lallas and you're not all jails.

540
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: Well, no, the dive sounds like a torture. Yes, to

541
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: have a bunch of LaaS and James Is on a screen, now.

542
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 2: That's just you.

543
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: I think it would have been different had I had

544
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: a good relationship with Raquel and Sandoval. It was that

545
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: I could not believe that these two people were throwing

546
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: daggers at me left and right about being I'm not

547
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: even gonna say the word anymore, yeah, because I'm so

548
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: fucking over it. Yeah, and then being real and being

549
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: authentic and sharing your life all the while they were

550
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: doing this. It was like I felt like my head

551
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: was spinning.

552
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: I think that's why this was so fascinating to people

553
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: that you didn't even watch the show, because everybody of

554
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: a certain age either knew a situation like this, like

555
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: it was.

556
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: A relatable friend. RelA was thought her husband was cheating.

557
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: And I remember we were staying at the SLS she

558
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 2: was visiting. We spent the night with like four girls

559
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: in a room and this girl had like a great

560
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 2: marriage and everything, and she as we're about to go

561
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: to bed, she says it, I think this is happening.

562
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: How why do you think this? This girl she was

563
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: a patient, Now she's working for him and this and that,

564
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: and I right away and I was like, I got

565
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: to ask you because now we're like, you know, early

566
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: forties or something about forty, and I'm like, you know,

567
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: this is when you get divorced, like you you know,

568
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: I encourage people. If you're gonna cut the cord, do

569
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: it while you're young, Like, do it while you can

570
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: have a hole. You could have some fucking fun bodies banging,

571
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: and then you find husband number two. Don't wait till

572
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: you're sou old. But anyway, that's why I'm staying married forever.

573
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: Not just kidding, but I but I was like, let

574
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: me just ask you. Do you have a fantasy about

575
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: having a second chapter at all? Or do you want

576
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: to be babysitting in your grandchouldren with this man. She's like, no,

577
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: I want to be like eighty great babies. I'm like, okay,

578
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: Then what I think you should do is I think

579
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: you should go and just say I'm uncomfortable with this situation.

580
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: I don't want her work in here anymore. I don't

581
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: want you to tell me anything. I don't want you.

582
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 2: I'm not accusing you of everything I'm telling you. It's

583
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: not feeling right to me. Here's a chunk of money.

584
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 2: Tell the girl to go find another job, you know,

585
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: I go, or you hire a private detective and you

586
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 2: find out the truth. If you're not ready to know

587
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 2: the truth, then just do this. So she brings that up. Oh,

588
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: you're crazy, You're crazy. You know. They go to therapy.

589
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: I'm you know, oh, themes seemed to be going great.

590
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: You know, she has this thing, look at my hot

591
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: husband running his first triathlon. I'm like, could this be

592
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 2: more of a cliche of a sheeter when someone suddenly

593
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: starts doing triathlons post forty, you'd be fucking someone else. Okay,

594
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: Like no, not a good sign.

595
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: No, not at all.

596
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, whatever, praying for her, okay, whatever.

597
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: And then she had to go, believe it or not,

598
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 2: to her grandmother's funeral and she and she goes, you

599
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: know what, I'm going to take this weekend because he

600
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: wasn't going to join her, And I'm going to hire

601
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: that detective and I'm going to have see what he does.

602
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: So she goes off with the kids to the grandma's funeral.

603
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I've got to work at this thing.

604
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: The detective calls in the next days like, I have

605
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: bad news for you. I'm tracking the car. It was

606
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: in front of this woman's house from eleven at night

607
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: till seven ams. Oh no, no, no. So then my

608
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: friend is so smart. So then she keeps it together.

609
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: She figures out all the finances. She made more money

610
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: than hey figured, all the finances paid for the vacations

611
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: of schools and words whatever. Then they go back to

612
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: the counselor marriage counsel, and the parents counts like, so

613
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: have you guys thought about anything? You want to maybe

614
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: do a trial separation? What are we gonna do? She's like,

615
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: oh no, We'll be filing for divorce, and I will

616
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: be also suing for alienation of spousal which is the

617
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: one state that you can do it in, is hers

618
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: of spousal affection or whatever. I'll be suing the mistress

619
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: for this. And he was lying to you too, and

620
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: and what everyone's like thanking out. She even came back

621
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: from that funeral knowing and made dinner for his parents.

622
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: She did all this in two weeks, knowing everything.

623
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: Yes, I have to meet this woman.

624
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 2: He's the best. And so then as they were fighting

625
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: and everything, then she would be like, you know, knowing

626
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: she care he wanted the boat. She hated the boat.

627
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: She'd be like, I want the boat. He's like, I

628
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: want the boat. She's like fine that I want the house.

629
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: He's like, I get the house.

630
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: She's like I will. And then like it was just

631
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: like and then she was so classic, never let the

632
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: kids know anything.

633
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: Oh, he marries her, Okay, he marries the mistress. Yes,

634
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: she turns out to be horrific, horrific, horrific. It's the

635
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: one that died.

636
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: Yep, she died, and she was awful. She was torturing

637
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: my friend up until she there's the story again. We've

638
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: talked about this more details which I don't want to share,

639
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: but like, all I'm saying is like, and then, of course,

640
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: now my friend is with her boyfriend of three years.

641
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: She had a bunch of fun boyfriends prior to that.

642
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: She had a great time as a woman in her fourties,

643
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: being single, kids are you know, college successful or about

644
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: to be, and has a great husband, I mean boyfriend,

645
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: no rush to get married, like you know, because he's

646
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: got younger kids, fabulous life, you know, and everything worked

647
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: out great. But there'd be times where I'd be like, God,

648
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: you know, your ex living through this misery. He's got

649
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: to just because then they were like would a parent Okay,

650
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: he's got to just be like what's because I'm like,

651
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: you would have never divorced him? She's like, I wouldn't

652
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: have is my sex better now with the new boyfriend. Yeah,

653
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: but I was committed to life.

654
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: I know these men don't even realize how would they

655
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: have it? Like I literally, you want to go out

656
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: and cheat, you want to go in cheat, I have

657
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: to sleep next to you. I've seen some pretty gnarly

658
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: ship and I'm still not fucking around, Like you don't

659
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: even know how good you had it?

660
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: No, and the other thing that people would say in

661
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: the fence of Sandival, Oh, you're only having sex four

662
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: times a year? What do you expect? Do you not?

663
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: How any women I know that have stayed in relationships

664
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: and stuff where they're not boning that much either, and

665
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: maybe they would like more, maybe they'd want the guy to.

666
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: Like they still don't.

667
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not fucking the guy's best friend. They're like,

668
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: you know what, you haven't fucked me since December? Where's

669
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: Bill today? I'd like to go I'm gonna go a

670
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: round of golf with Bill. We just get along. Guys

671
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: are my best friends.

672
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: But it's so true. It's like whatever happened to a

673
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: good old fashioned conversation? Sit down and be like, you

674
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: know what, I'm feeling like we need to have more

675
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: sex because my mind is wandering. I'm kind of feeling

676
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: like I want to go fuck your best friend. Let's

677
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: just have the conversation first before you go do it

678
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: and blow everyone's life up.

679
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's just.

680
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: Do you think scandalval has run its course? Do you

681
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: think people are thick of talking about it now?

682
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: I mean I would get a few comments that are like,

683
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: I when is this going to end? Heather, and I

684
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: would even be like, We're almost there. But I mean

685
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: because it's because it is such a piggyback conversation is

686
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: why I think it exactly what I just said, I

687
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: just like told a story that was like relatable, and

688
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: I totally that is why, out of all the reality

689
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: show scandals and affairs and things like that that have

690
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: ever happened, That's why I think it is just so fascinating.

691
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: And then all the different elements and how each of

692
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: you had such a big role. No one didn't have

693
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: a role in it, right, I mean Katie had a role,

694
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: Worts had a roll, Sheena Brock. I mean like every

695
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: single person had like their own point of view, their

696
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: own tidbits of info to share their own reflective moments, right.

697
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 2: I mean that's why I think it was, you know,

698
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: so good. But yeah, I mean I think.

699
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: We have one more episode. You know that right? No

700
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: secrets revealed, all new footage? What is that? Sunday tonight? Baby?

701
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: Just when you think you're done recappy episode, they pull

702
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: your right back. In part two of the Jersey the Reunion,

703
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: how do you feel about it? By the way, the

704
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 1: reunions are way better than the entire season? Did you

705
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: like the season? Be real of your season? No, we're on.

706
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: Did I know?

707
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: It's hard to think that anything else exists? It's really

708
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: fucking hard.

709
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: I did.

710
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: I did watch Jersey every every episode.

711
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: Have you seen the reunions?

712
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: Yes?

713
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: Do you think they're better than the entire season combined?

714
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the unions are always good. But I don't

715
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: even feel like you needed to watch the season.

716
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: I mean one hundred percent. But it was like it

717
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: was very I was very sucked in and very confused

718
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: by a lot of things. Cause I had Carlos king on,

719
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: who is very pro Teresa and he was a producer.

720
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: He worked on New Jersey for a minute and then

721
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: he worked on Intlanta. But anyway, he came on my

722
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: show and he had told what he believes to be

723
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: true his experience of how Melissa got on the show

724
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: Melissa and Joe and why Teresa was so upset and

725
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: that she was blindsided, and he told the whole thing,

726
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: and I was like, I always saw it as Teresa,

727
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: you know, wants to be this, she wants this to

728
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: be her thing, and she didn't want to share the

729
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: limelight and all of that. But I get being blindsided.

730
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: But I get why the producers blindsided her because it

731
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: made the better TV and all that, you know. So

732
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: anyway that came out. Then Melissa like wrote me and

733
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: was like, Joe and I have always been so good

734
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: to you. Why are you saying this? Why did you

735
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: have this person? This isn't true. Teresa knew that I

736
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: was interviewing at my shore house. She knew I was

737
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: interviewing for it. Why is she acting like it was

738
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 2: such a surprise or whatever? And I go, I don't know.

739
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: Then you know, I hear from Teresa, and I'm like

740
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: seeing all this stuff. And then I go back and

741
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: watch season three of Melissa coming on for the first season.

742
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, like at the at the christ the Christening, and

743
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: I watch it.

744
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: It's like one of those rainy weekends that we had

745
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: and I just was like and then I then I

746
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: was pro to Teresa. I was like, this is weird

747
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: and she is saying snarky stuff and why is And

748
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, why is he freaking out at the christening

749
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: where he's like, you know, going crazy. I never understood that.

750
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: Then Teresa says, oh, I found out that he did

751
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: that because I had become famous from flipping the table.

752
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 2: He went in wanting to bake a scene for TV

753
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: to be iconic. That's what someone told her mother, who

754
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: told her who knows there's a lot of telephone in

755
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 2: this whole thing. So then I was like, oh god.

756
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: And so I'm a strange from my sister. And I'm like,

757
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: if I was on the Real House as of Woodland

758
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: Hills and they found out even before we weren't strange,

759
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: we'd have lots of like weird things going on. I'm like,

760
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: one hundred percent they'd be crazy not to get my

761
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: sister like and I and here I think, oh my god,

762
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 2: I'm going to the third season. I'm enjoying this little

763
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: bit of fame. I see my sister and and you

764
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: know Joe, and I see Melissa and Joe at Christmas

765
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: and I give them the Christening gifts, but like, I

766
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: want to be the star alone. And all of a sudden,

767
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: now she comes in and I know, because we've had

768
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: issues in the past, she's gonna talk shit about me,

769
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: my sister, talks shit about me, my sister all the

770
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 2: other your flat ass and your chicken legs. She'd leave

771
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 2: these long messages for me. She was just so mean,

772
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: you know, And I'm like, but she was kind of

773
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: funny too, so I'm like, of course, if I was

774
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: on the show, she would be like, I'm the funny one,

775
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: you know, but she never pursued.

776
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: She's funnier than you think.

777
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: No, I mean, we were all funny in my family,

778
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: Like we're all funny. Only one of us went to

779
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: the fucking Growlings and did stand up and went to

780
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: college and like gott in the writers Guild. The other

781
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: people were like, you know, going to the rocks and

782
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 2: trying to you know, screw someone from a rat or something.

783
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just saying there are different paths

784
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: for different people.

785
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: Like one of us did it right and one of us,

786
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: you don't do it.

787
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: It'd been funnier, like if we were both of the

788
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: exact same things. I don't know, but it's like, were

789
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: you then no one was jealous of my.

790
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: Sister because it is I think you're dealing when you

791
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: talk about Melissa and Theresa and the family. Yes, I

792
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: believe what both of them are saying, because I truly

793
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: think that that is how they're picturing it. I know,

794
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: although although we always say, like between what is it,

795
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: there's there's always two sides and somewhere in between is

796
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: the truth. But I believe both of them because I

797
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: believe that they believe it.

798
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: Well, I think that that's how it happens. I say,

799
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: it's two things to be true at the same same time.

800
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: I love that she didn't want who says it?

801
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: Katie says that she didn't.

802
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: Want her, She didn't want to share the limelight. She

803
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: didn't who would, Okay, But then when Melissa gets on

804
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: too fucking bad, I'm on and I'm good at it too.

805
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean she wished her sisters. They wished each other bad.

806
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: But then there was a weird competition. I remember, like

807
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: you know, all of a sudden, Teresa was like annoyed

808
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: that she was using the same photographer for their Christmas card.

809
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: Teresa's like, that's my photographer. I don't want everything to

810
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: look the same. They were very much similar girls. So

811
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: it was very much a competition of.

812
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: The families in Utah, like very like very you're from

813
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: a small place, and like you used my same caterer,

814
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: you use the same photographer. It's like the weird competition

815
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: that happens.

816
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: And then also like the Teresa and in like small

817
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 2: town Teresa and Joe only having each other. And then

818
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: this other person told me that in Italian families, don't

819
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: know this is true. In Italian families, sometimes the vibe

820
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: is you put your I think you put your mother first,

821
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: then your sister. If you're a man, okay, your mother first,

822
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: then your sister, then your kids, then your wife. Oh

823
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: and if you think about that, that is kind of

824
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: the way Melissa has been treated, not by Joe, but

825
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: by by Teresa, like I'm his sister, I'm his sister,

826
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm his sister. You know, at a certain end, when

827
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: you have dysfunction in the family, like with my dysfunctional family,

828
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 2: there was a lot where I just would have to

829
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: take it, like when my sister would call, leave me

830
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: messages or show up at my door or like just

831
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: to yell at me, or like she'd be bitching about

832
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: my parents. And I just remember I like hung up

833
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: and took a shower and she just walked into my

834
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: house to yell at me. What And my at that point,

835
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm married and like my husband comes from a normal family.

836
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 2: So yeah, did I start to put my foot down

837
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: after I got married? Yes? Did I do it because

838
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: Peter made me no, But he kind of opened my

839
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: eyes to like, I don't want to do this for

840
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: another twenty years, right, And so I kind of feel

841
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: like with Louie. The positive side of Louis is Louie

842
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 2: bringing protective of Teresa, who's bitched about Melissa and Joe

843
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: for two years, and he's like, this isn't healthy anymore.

844
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 2: Or is Louie being like Santabal and alienating or from

845
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: other people and being like I'm the only one you

846
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: need now, Yeah, or it could be a little both.

847
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: But it's weird and it makes a lot of sense

848
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: because it's very much uh, you know, I've got you know,

849
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: I've got people. I can threaten you, I can sue you,

850
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: I know how to do this. Yeah, he's certain people

851
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: just smart enough to be dangerous kind of a person,

852
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: type of a thing that can really kind of They

853
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: know how to make her life hell difficult.

854
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: They know how to make your life hell, and they

855
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: thrive off of it. I will say Teresa is one

856
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: of the most iconic housewives to ever exist, right, and

857
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: I think the only thing that anybody, even people who

858
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: don't know her, just her fans, what do they call them,

859
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: the tree huggers they want.

860
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 2: To see called the tree stumps, which I thought.

861
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: Was that was really funny, that was very funny, but

862
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: just I don't want to see her devastated by that person.

863
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: I hung out with them in Saint Barts and he

864
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: really won me over. And I am not going to

865
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: say anything necessarily bad about Louis my my experience with him.

866
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: He was fun, He was very into her. She was

867
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: extremely nice, cool, nice to fans. Nice. No, she's really

868
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: really really nice. And they seemed very to each other

869
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: and had very fun and they had a nice couple

870
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: with them from New Jersey that aren't famous, and like

871
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: we had a fun day, but like gregarious and nice,

872
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 2: gets your number, follows up, you know, like with the guys,

873
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: the husbands, and like, hey, let's do this let's you know,

874
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: make a plan not a flake in the beginning, and

875
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: you're kind of surprised they're not a flake because you think,

876
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: oh my god, you know, yeah, yeah, And and you

877
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: know who's also like that? Joe for instance, is that

878
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: the from Girls Gone Wild? Yeah? And I like to

879
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: have like I enjoy like, I enjoy that like high energy,

880
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: like doesn't bother me.

881
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: So I like the high end. Ye.

882
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: And I'm never like, I've always been married, so I'm

883
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: never like looking to dating these people, but I enjoy them.

884
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I think I have attracted those type

885
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: of male friendships a little bit.

886
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: But by the way, Heather, there's not one person on

887
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: a TV show, on Housewives or any Bravo show that

888
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: has the power to say I don't want them a

889
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: part of it and to get rid of them. They

890
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: don't they like the drama. If there's a housewive saying

891
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with them more the reason

892
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: to bring them back, do you agree with that or no?

893
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. Why do you think why do you

894
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: think Renna got the pause?

895
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: Why do you think why do I think Rena got

896
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: the pause? Pause?

897
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: Because I thought it was because it was because they

898
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: wanted Kathy Hilton, and then Kathy we found out Kathie

899
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 2: Hilton is no.

900
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: I think it had no no, it had nothing to

901
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: do with that. I think that there was a long

902
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: conversation between Rinna and Bravo, and I think what she

903
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: wanted out of her life because this can be very toxic,

904
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: especially after you lose your mom and just the backlash

905
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: and the death threats over a fucking TV show. I

906
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: think they just came to a common understanding that there's

907
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: nothing you can offer me right now that would make

908
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: me feel like I can go back and my ask

909
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: maybe too much, so let's just call it a day

910
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: for now.

911
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna like you're saying you think it was her choice.

912
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: I think she decided this is too much for me.

913
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: What can you offer me to make it worth it?

914
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: And they weren't prepared to offer that. I think I

915
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with Kathy Hilton.

916
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: I don't think it necessarily do with Kathy Hilton because

917
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: she wasn't even on. But I don't know. I don't

918
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 2: understand why why when fans suddenly turn on somebody, why

919
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: that would make Bravo want to give them pause? Like

920
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: I think that it should be the first No.

921
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: I think it was a pause because I think that

922
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: Renna also was saying like, I don't know that I

923
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: like doing this anymore. I feel like I've been made

924
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: out to be a liar when all I wanted to

925
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: do was tell the truth. I lost my mom. I'm

926
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: getting death threats because of the way I've been edited.

927
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of things where in

928
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: the big picture, it was like when both parties are

929
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: not coming to an agreement, but they're not ready to

930
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: call it a day, they say, we're pushing parts.

931
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: What I also think is really weird about Housewist too,

932
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: is like we all know what's gonna happen. You mean

933
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: she's going to come back like next season, one hundred percent, when.

934
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: The dust has settled. She needs a break, so.

935
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: It will be a break by the time she comes

936
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: back next season, and it'll, you know, and it'll be

937
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 2: a whole big thing. Like these lips are back, they're clapping,

938
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: But can I.

939
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: Tell you something. Everyone sits there and talks about how

940
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: they want to get rid of all these people, and

941
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: they talk about their dreamcast, and you want to know

942
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: what I see in their dreamcast? A bunch of good

943
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: people who are so fucking boring I would never want

944
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, mark my words, this season's going to

945
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: come out and everyone who was saying get rid of

946
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: Lisa Renna is going to be like, God, can we

947
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: get Lisa Renna back?

948
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: Because if everyone's like cheering and having some yeah, you're right,

949
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: we say, and then we we're not happy with like

950
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: someone having an old way. I mean, it will be

951
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: interesting because without having Kathy too, there's none of that

952
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: with Kyle and Kathy, which is.

953
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: Like, are people even still talking about Kathy Hilton. I

954
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: haven't seen her anywhere.

955
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: She's not in it.

956
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: Oh she is.

957
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: No, she's not doing season. She never filled one day

958
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: of this season that we're about to watch wait see

959
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: you so, But I'm saying, but without that excitement between

960
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: the two sisters and their weirdness, yeah, that's a big bummer.

961
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm eating caviart and then like the Potato Bowl was awesome.

962
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I well, we'll see what happens.

963
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: But I'm no, I'm excited to start watching something other

964
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: than Vander pump Rolls. I'm exhausted from vander pump Rolls.

965
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: It's hard to get me stimulated. Now off of anything,

966
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: like unless you're banging. I'm not caught up on Atlanta.

967
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: I watched the first couple and now I'm like four behind,

968
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: and I'm saying, I feel like it's like homework. I

969
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: don't know if I care that much. And I just

970
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: saw a clip of Marlow and Candy getting into it.

971
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: See I watch that was it's such a dark subject, though,

972
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: what is it? Marlow's nephew like worked at Candy's restaurant

973
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: and the chef like shot him.

974
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: Yello, yeah, yeah, no, it is dark.

975
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

976
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: Candy didn't want to talk about that.

977
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 2: Second episode, Marlo brings it up and Candy's, yeah, it's

978
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: pissed because it looks horrible on the location of their

979
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: place and everything else and how sad, and she was

980
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: making it like Candy didn't care to and Candy was

981
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: getting real like.

982
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: It's because Candy didn't want to talk about it on camera.

983
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: Right.

984
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: A producer stepped in chef with his arm in a sling,

985
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: and the producer goes, are we going to address this?

986
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: And she's like, I don't want.

987
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: To talk about how there was that? And then this

988
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: happened a couple of weeks, A couple episodes like, oh, there's.

989
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: Two now that have been shot in the same restaurant.

990
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: No, they weren't at the restaurant. They were at some

991
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: other event and Marlow brings it up. It's okay, Candy

992
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: and her got into it then. But I was going

993
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 2: to say something else about New Jersey, okay, about bringing

994
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: stuff on camera that you're You're like looking at your

995
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: friend who's bringing something up on camera and like, you, motherfucker,

996
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: why are you doing this? You know? Yeah, which I'm

997
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: sure you've been in that position.

998
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: I was in that position this season. Which thing and

999
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say what it was. But when

1000
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Andy asks the question about has my friendship with Sena

1001
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: affected me and Katie? And there were things that were

1002
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: said on everyone's part, and I remember Katie and I

1003
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: made eye contact. I made eye contact with Sena, and

1004
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't control either of you right now,

1005
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: just like you guys can't control the rest of us.

1006
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: And I was like, this could be something that comes

1007
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: out and I think, and again, no one talked about it.

1008
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: No one talked about it. When we wrapped for lunch,

1009
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: I said to Katie, I was like, that made me

1010
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: nervous and she was like, I wasn't going to say

1011
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: a thing, and she said, I wasn't going to say

1012
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: a thing. So that's what I'm saying is I have

1013
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: two questions.

1014
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: When you break for lunch, Yeah, what did they serve you?

1015
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: We had Mediterranean food, peta bread, chicken, kebab's, hummus tzeki.

1016
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 2: It was good.

1017
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: It was really good.

1018
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 2: And when you guys were leaving, it was still light out.

1019
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: You really shot that all in one day with daylight?

1020
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: How did that not go on for? Like? How many hours?

1021
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: Was that? That was pretty short?

1022
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: Then they said we were only filming for five hours,

1023
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: but I think they met. We were in our seats

1024
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: for five hours. My calltime and mine was actually a

1025
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: later at call time. I think only Arianna got there

1026
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,479
Speaker 1: later than me. My calltime was seven thirty am and

1027
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: we and I was in the car by seven pm.

1028
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: And so the long day two hours of lamb. I

1029
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: started glam at four thirty in the morning. Oh you

1030
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: came glamor ready, yes, because I do my own.

1031
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: Okay, so you did glamor at your house and then

1032
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: you went okay, all right, speaking of New Jersey, Okay, okay,

1033
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: when Melissa, when do you remember from the season where

1034
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: Melissa goes meets Danielle and then Danielle says, Teresa told

1035
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: me to pull Margaret's hair, and then they go to

1036
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: Dolores's party and on camera, Melissa goes, you shouldn't be

1037
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: friends with Danielle because Danielle is saying crazy things like

1038
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: you you told her to pull Margaret's hair and Teresa

1039
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: did do that, and she knows there's probably footage of

1040
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: it with Mike's and stuff, but now it's out on

1041
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: the show and Melissa says it at the party, and

1042
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: that's when Teresa goes, she's so mad that this is

1043
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: looking so bad, and she hits all the solo cups

1044
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: and so I think that could have been Teresa's revenge

1045
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: on Melissa to go, I'm going to make sure that

1046
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: somebody else brings up the a legend making out in

1047
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: the car on camera before the season ends.

1048
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: Oh you think that was her doing?

1049
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: I think she I think, yeah, I think, well, she

1050
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: got the information and then you know, it was a

1051
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: lot of people telling it. You know, it was like

1052
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 2: and then she told Jenna or Jennifer new Then Jennifer oops,

1053
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: it slipped out of my mouth, and I'm talking to

1054
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 2: somebody with cameras all around, who's the new girl, Danielle.

1055
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: And then they were probably like somebody producers or somebody

1056
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 2: probably told Danielle, don't you think you should let Melissa

1057
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: know what everyone's talking about? Of course, and so that's

1058
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 2: why Melissa's like, oh my god, I fucking hate you,

1059
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: like we're done and we're not going to your wedding,

1060
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: like fuck off. And then I almost feel like that

1061
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 2: they may have, well, they may have wanted them not

1062
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: to attend like that. I think that might have been

1063
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: their plan, like, oh my god, they're still coming. Oh

1064
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: my god, they don't care that she's not in the

1065
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: wedding and they're still coming. All right, they're still coming,

1066
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: Like what are what are we going to do to

1067
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: get them?

1068
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: Now?

1069
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: She'll stay up and down. No, I would have wanted

1070
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 2: my brother, of course I would have. But I think

1071
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: there was like a relief, but no, Like again, I

1072
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: think both things are true. I think she would have

1073
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 2: been fine had they come, but once they yelled at

1074
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: her two days before, she was happy that they didn't,

1075
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 2: and they were like, we don't need to go. Damn

1076
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: if you do, Dan, if you don't, if if Melissa

1077
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: and Joe go. They're gonna be seen as pulling attention

1078
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: from the bride there. They're gonna be that their intentions

1079
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 2: weren't good.

1080
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: I think they got to call it a day. I

1081
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Speaker 1: think they got to call it a day on each other.

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Speaker 2: Take a real break.

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Speaker 1: It's no more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they will both? Do you think Melissa

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Speaker 1: will come back?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I think so too.

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Speaker 1: I think and I think Teresa's going to lose it.

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Speaker 2: I think that this. I don't want this to happen,

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Speaker 2: but I think she'll get a one year pause.

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Speaker 1: Who Teresa?

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Speaker 2: Do you think Teresa will get a pause?

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Speaker 1: I don't know all your predictions are right.

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't know they have they don't have

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Speaker 2: as start date. They don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: All right, My loves, thank you, thank you. He's been it.

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Speaker 4: It was fun being a part of this.

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Speaker 3: I love it listening to Boss.

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Speaker 2: Can I do some plugs.

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Speaker 1: People, Yeah, obviously, I'm going to have you plug everything

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Speaker 1: you want.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be at the Tempi Improv this Friday and

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Speaker 2: Saturday night with hilarious Christopherangola, and then I will be

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Speaker 2: in San Diego June twenty fourth at Humphrey's by the Bay.

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Speaker 2: It's almost sold out, but there is some tickets left.

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Speaker 2: It's a big venue and it's super cool and I'm

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Speaker 2: very excited to be there with Justin, Martin Hill and

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Speaker 2: Chris and we're all doing stand ups. So that is that.

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Speaker 2: It's that heathern dald dot Net Juicy Scoop every Tuesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 2: Patriot Friday, the whole she Bank.

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Speaker 1: You are Tuesday and Thursdays. Oh wow, your puzzle link bus.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Give Them All a Podcast only on Wednesdays. I love

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Speaker 1: you guys. Have the best week ever.

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Speaker 3: Bye.