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Don't wait, don't hesitate. 30 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Let's Square handle the back end so you can keep 31 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: pushing your vision forward. 32 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: As far as a nonprofit, the business model behind nonprofit, 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: you still get to make money though, right to live, 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: right of course, So how does that work? Because people 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: here to work nonprofit and it's like, okay, everything it's 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: like it's just a charity. Everything that comes in goes out, 37 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: but it's still a business. Yeah, yeah, explain that as 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: like it's easy to explain a for profit organization. Everybody 39 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 2: knows that, But the nonprofit, I think it's interesting. It 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: like it's a nonprofit but it's still a business at 41 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: the same time. 42 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. For sure. So the business part of 43 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: it just for the viewers. 44 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: Right, it's about like the way it's broken up in 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 4: its taxes, right, like the entities is about. The taxes 46 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: is different. Right, the way it's broken up. The structure 47 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 4: is the same, just a different market. 48 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: Right. 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: So the foot profit, I have to say that you're 50 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: selling a good to make a profit. 51 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: Right. I sell you this candyball. I make money off 52 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: that candy ball. 53 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 4: The nonprofit is about providing a service that's not being sold. 54 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: I'm not selling you my financial literacy program. I'm not 55 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 4: selling you my mentorship. 56 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: Right. 57 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 4: You're in the program for free, but it's funded by 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: that could be a diverse pool. Right, So we have 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: government funding right primary with a lot of nonprofits are 60 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 4: funded by government. And interestingly enough, you don't want to 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 4: be funded by government, right because it's not guaranteed. Political 62 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: shift happened, you lose that money. 63 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: Private. 64 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: You have private donors, people who own companies, people are 65 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: well wealthy that love the cause you're doing. They want 66 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: to donate, contribute. There's a diverse corporate right, fundraisers, crowdfunding, 67 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: so all of that money really goes towards your budget. 68 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: The same way of foot profits just set up. 69 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: Right. Everyone has expenses, right, you got rent, you got utilities. 70 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: You got galery salary. 71 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: That's where the money comes in. So I'm salaried as 72 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: a CEO of my company. 73 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: Right. I started off unpaid. 74 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: Right, And that's the part with the nonprofit like some 75 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: businesses too, that you have to start unpaid build it. 76 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: And the way we grew was uniquely. 77 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: Because we started like as contractors, Me and my team, right. 78 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: Because once I got two or three brothers that join 79 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: the movement that came home. Right, half my team that 80 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: over one hundred team is in prison. 81 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: FYI. 82 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 4: Like we all came from the same fed state and county. 83 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: So they all love them noble movement. They jump on board. 84 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 4: So what happened was people starting to see us and 85 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: they're like, Yo, can you run this program? 86 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: Our first program was manhuch uh? What was it called 87 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: the Manhood Training? Right? 88 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: It was an eight week program and it was focused 89 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: on adulthood and life skills and communications. And we went 90 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: into the Youth Shelter of Mount Vernon. You know, shout 91 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: out to the youth shelter. They gave us one of 92 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: our first contracts to run program. That's how we started, right, 93 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: what they're paying for the program X amount of money 94 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 4: or right you come when you do two workshops, I 95 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: pay for those two workshops. And we just started like 96 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: building financial systems based on contracts. Then it got a 97 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 4: little deeper when grants come in. So she had a 98 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 4: grant from a government and they're like, hey, you get 99 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 4: this X amount of money. In this particular first experience, 100 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 4: it was a reimbursement grant, so you have to spend 101 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 4: the money in order to. 102 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: Get it back, right. So all of that taught me 103 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 3: how to do. 104 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 4: Budgets spreadsheets right like from the very beginning, and it 105 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: kind of worked out because it wasn't. I turned down 106 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 4: a lot of money, by the way, right in the 107 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: early parts of my career because I didn't want to 108 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: do too much and then not be able to have 109 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: the infrastructure to maintain it, your collapse like that. So 110 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 4: I took each opportunity intentionally if it was aligned with 111 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 4: my values and my mission, which is very important with the. 112 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 3: Business and nonprofit. 113 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: Can't chase the money, you got to chase the mission 114 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: because sometimes the dollar is tied to somebody who's not 115 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 4: aligned with your mission on your values and a lot 116 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: of nonprofits go wrong with that. They're looking at the 117 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 4: dollars they needed for expenses and then they you know, 118 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: wrap themselves up and they can't produce in all cases. 119 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 4: Was like we kind of like started to not put 120 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: the car before the host started walking. 121 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: You know, we crawled. Now we're walking, and then we 122 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: started slowly running. 123 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 4: And with the nonprofit game was just understanding how to 124 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 4: diversify your income right, diversify your portfolio right, how to 125 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 4: get corporate funds, how to get foundation money, how to 126 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: get you know, crowdfunding, fundraisers money, how to get government money, 127 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: and then looking at that money that the money's coming 128 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: and tying it to the budget. And that's where salaries, 129 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: insurance build, I mean, your utilities, anything that you have 130 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 4: as an expense for your nonprofit. 131 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: Hope. I kind of answered that you said you had 132 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: to as a CEO. Did you built the border directors? 133 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: How did you go about choosing that? 134 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: And then you said that obviously the team has been incarcerated. 135 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: How you go about so that then? 136 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: Who's going to be a good sit town mission? 137 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 4: I know for sure for sure for the board of directors. 138 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: It started with Lamont Withdrew right, he was off because 139 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: he was our first fiscal sponsor, So that check that 140 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 4: we got for five thousand, we couldn't take it because 141 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: we wasn't a five O one C three yet. So fiscal 142 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: sponsors are like other more established nonprofits that'll take that 143 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: money pass it through their bank account to you. Because 144 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: then that check the person who wrote the check to 145 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 4: that it went to a nonprofit, right, it had to 146 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 4: be a five on C three. So him being our 147 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: physical sponsor and being somebody that was, you know, helping 148 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 4: us build the business. He was our first board member, right, 149 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: and then we you know, at the time, we were 150 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 4: selecting people who was helping us on the ground. But 151 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 4: it was like I try to get people who are 152 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 4: are an expert in different spaces, whether in education, whether 153 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: in fundraising right, whether it's marketing right, operations to contribute 154 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: and put back down into the organization. But it never 155 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: works like that. You find people that's dedicated it, then 156 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: they're too busy, they got too many kids over the 157 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 4: family level, so they can't contribute. So we re ramped 158 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 4: the board in twenty twenty two going into twenty twenty three, 159 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 4: and one person who's still we have actually five, there's 160 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: five board members right now, me I'm the president, the 161 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: co founder is the board treasurer. Then we have an 162 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: advisor and two secretaries and the other two besides Lamont, 163 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: we met them through just networking and they had the 164 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: skill set that we needed, which is understanding nonprofit business, 165 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 4: understanding operations right. Other ones worked in correction facilities to 166 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 4: understand program and leadership development. So we started to select 167 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: people based on how are they tied to the mission 168 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 4: and what do they bring to the table. And right 169 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: now with that small team, we're starting over because we're 170 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: literally formalizing the board process on what recruitment strategy looks like. 171 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: Right, we have to enhance. 172 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: Our by laws, right the by laws is the governance 173 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: structure of the nonprofit. We're literally working with three different 174 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 4: law firms to tighten up some of the back end 175 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: documentation such as the by laws, and that by laws 176 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: is going to dictate how we recruit new board members. 177 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: So while that's being developed by a legal consultant firm, 178 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: where we're with the board to make sure our strategy 179 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: is in line with the by laws, and it's really 180 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: you want to target people who's going to bring to 181 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 4: the organization. They're volunteering their time, but you want people 182 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: who's going to bring in money, bringing resources, bringing connections 183 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 4: and also information. Right, So we're still in that development phase. 184 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 4: When it came to the team, it happened through me 185 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 4: knowing individuals from serving time with them and them returning 186 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: home and reaching out asking for the opportunity, and then 187 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: it just kind of working out at the right time. 188 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: Right. 189 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: That was like an unstructured way that we recruited of 190 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 4: course with intention, right, like you know. Now, so now 191 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: the whole team is forming costs for only half the team. 192 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: We have women on our team that's been impacted by 193 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 4: the system indirectly that got you know, different careers that 194 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 4: contribute to the movement. But now we have a actually 195 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 4: HR department is in Now we're developing an HR system 196 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 4: where we're doing onboarding more for more and more corporate. 197 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: But there's a caveat that we are keeping with the organization, 198 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 4: and that's the voting process. I like member led organizations, 199 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 4: right where my team has to say so on how 200 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: certain things process. 201 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: Right. 202 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 4: So one of the last two excuse me, the last 203 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: two members we had we did a panel discussion, right, So, 204 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 4: and it's somebody I was up North Fork, master grad bilingual, 205 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: solid brother, well intellectual. He brought so much to the table, 206 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 4: but I knew he just came home. We got to 207 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: kind of groom him. And that's how we start to 208 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 4: do it. We like, he's take an opportunity at Woodfield. 209 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 4: They'll build their like kind of experiences working with the population. 210 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 4: We kind of observe them, We put them in spaces 211 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: to kind of get them a job of the team, 212 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: and then we like, Yo, this person's dedicated. This person 213 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: actually brings a lot to the table, and they bring diversity. 214 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: That's the other key, diversity. 215 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: Right. So then from there, if we feel like, yea, we. 216 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: Want to vote them in, we'll do a panel meeting 217 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: with the person and I'll have the whole team. Could 218 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: be a little intimid dating, but it's more like just 219 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 4: really interviewing you about your interests in this movement, right 220 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: because we don't call it a nonprofit or a. 221 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: Company or job. We a movement. 222 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: So there's you know, company values and cultures that we 223 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 4: have to talk about and how do you like assimilate 224 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: into That is what we try to figure out. And fortunately, 225 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 4: you know, we have a team of thirteen right now. 226 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 4: You know again I said half my team did a 227 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: lot of time. Five of them have former gang experience 228 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 4: from Cribs, Bloodslain and Kingston and th Adios to you 229 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: know No Blood, So like they all were gang leaders 230 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: in their own way. So now they use that to 231 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: go back into the institutions working with the young kids 232 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 4: who are gang banging. 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