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Speaker 1: The midway, Jay Stu. What's the midway?

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Speaker 3: Doug, I'll take it from here. It is a Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: for the midway today. Based on Chris Long's take on

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Speaker 3: the NFL game presentation on YouTube on Friday night, what

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Speaker 3: do we think about the tactic being used by the

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Speaker 3: NFL and their rights holders to cater to a younger audience.

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Speaker 3: Chris Long is probably a millennial. I'm gen X. And

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Speaker 3: then there's a boomer reference in this SoundBite. It's some

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Speaker 3: It follows this broadcast search Doug Gottlieb Show on the

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Speaker 3: iHeart radio app. Chris Long on his podcast talked about

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Speaker 3: how stunningly out of touch he felt while watching Friday's

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Speaker 4: I watched the YouTube broadcast of the game in South

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Speaker 4: Pallow and I felt immediately like somebody who is being

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Speaker 4: ushered to, like an early grave. Like it just felt like, hey,

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Speaker 4: like time to die, Boomer, Like you don't know who

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Speaker 4: destroying is? Time to die. You don't you don't want

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Speaker 4: to see. You don't want to see. Mister Beast's like

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Speaker 4: giant pearly white smile as he squid games too, you

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Speaker 4: know NFL fans like through a goalpost, no problem, just

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Speaker 4: go to bed. You're you're old anyways. The whole thing

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Speaker 4: to me, it's jarring. And I understand like what old

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Speaker 4: people feel like when programming changes, because like I just

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Speaker 4: don't get it. Then I'm old, right, and nobody wants

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Speaker 4: to be the guy that's like on like streamers or

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Speaker 4: like it's a new you know, I don't want like

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Speaker 4: I really felt it the other night, Like I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying the YouTube is inherently an old man thing.

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Speaker 5: And I called it the YouTube, so I.

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Speaker 1: Think the key it's a great take, by the way.

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Speaker 3: And the key thing that he said at the end

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Speaker 6: I love that, Joe, but Buck kept calling it like

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Speaker 5: Okay, that seems to me a more like the ESPN

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Speaker 1: don't know. To me what resonates is I That's how

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Speaker 1: You're to ask me like how old are you? Like

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there's just there's this whole here's one other

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Speaker 1: YouTubers get involved in Mister Beast. I got pulled into

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Speaker 5: It only gotlin.

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Speaker 1: It was really yeah, it was. It was like a

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Speaker 6: Can I just go back to the Ferris Bueller's Day

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Speaker 6: so they have to do like yeah, here's Ferris Bueller

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Speaker 5: The only the only reason why like I say that

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Speaker 5: have the SpongeBob games or whatever. I'm completely fine with that, yeah,

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Speaker 5: because I like it. It's on a different channel. There's

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Speaker 5: a whole different production of it, just like the Manning

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Speaker 5: and what they're presenting. So networks have the opportunity to

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Speaker 5: why is this coming into my broadcast when you've shown

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Speaker 5: you've had the capability to put up different broadcasts and

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Speaker 5: it on a different channel. You've done that with other games,

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Speaker 3: I feel like this with baseball all the time. Every

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Speaker 1: Do you think you alienate them? Again? But that's the thing,

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Speaker 1: do you think you alienate them? Or are those people

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Speaker 3: No, they're always going to still watch. They put up

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Speaker 1: Uh? No, no, But but.

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Speaker 7: Or feeling very old like Chris Longs.

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Speaker 1: I just also think that sometimes we overthink things and

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Speaker 1: we have to change the presentation for a younger crowd

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Speaker 1: like I. You know, sometimes even the younger crowd appreciates

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Speaker 5: It feels that when we were growing up, it was

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Speaker 5: this is what you're gonna get and you're gonna like it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's like that's what dinner was like at my house.

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Speaker 6: That's what the TV was like, Like my parents are

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Speaker 6: watching the news. I don't get to put on whatever

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now you can literally what I mean. And yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think that's a better way to live, honestly, because

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Speaker 6: like it's just too much like kids calling shots and

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Speaker 6: no offense to kids. But their kids they don't know

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Speaker 6: Their brains haven't developed yet. I get it you're trying

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Speaker 6: to bring in new viewers, but like.

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Speaker 1: No, but there's also listen, that's a real discussion, Sam,

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Speaker 1: when you have kids, you'll have the I.

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Speaker 6: Know, a path of least resistance, Like what can I

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Speaker 7: And it's kids what they want.

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Speaker 1: But well there's like a hey, you know, there's there

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Speaker 5: There, there's a way to do it, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: Like you don't know who Destroying is.

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Speaker 6: I know now, but they're doing Listen, they're doing this

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Speaker 5: the last twenty minutes, forty nine ers said. Coach Kyle

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Speaker 5: Shanahan said that quarterback Brock Purty is a long shot

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Speaker 5: to play against the Saints in Week two on Sunday

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Speaker 5: because of toe and shoulder injuries. Mac Jones would be

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Speaker 5: in line to start. Purdy is not going to practice today.

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Speaker 5: But again, Kyle Shanahan saying Purty a long shot to

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Speaker 1: Dan Byer had breaking news where Kyle Shanahan has said

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Speaker 1: it's a long shot, long shot clean that upen ed

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Speaker 1: it long shot that uh brock Purty will play this

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Speaker 1: weekend for the Niners. So mac Jones is the backup.

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Speaker 1: And I don't have a perfect memory, but have a

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Speaker 1: really good memory, and my really good memory tells me

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Speaker 1: the story was when the Niners traded up for Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance because they've got Trey Lance and brock Purty same draft. Right,

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Speaker 1: that he wanted mac Jones, but either he soured on

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Speaker 1: him the last second, but more likely that John Lynch,

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Speaker 1: the GM and others said no, Trey Lance is the

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Speaker 1: better prospect. Is that I remember it as well, Dan.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I remember Chris Sims coming out with the mac

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Speaker 5: Jones thing and we're like, what, like that was early on?

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Speaker 5: But yes, that's all right.

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Speaker 1: And then for people to don't understand again, I know

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Speaker 1: many of you are like we know, but some don't.

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Speaker 1: Chris Simms and Kyle Shanahan were college roommates at Texas, right,

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Speaker 1: so they are obviously really really close friends and Shanahan

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Speaker 1: was a wide receiver and he was a quarterback obviously,

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Speaker 1: so that when he comes out and says, hey, I

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Speaker 1: know Kyle Shanahan wants Mac Jones were assuming that he's

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Speaker 1: a what do they call those in what do you

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Speaker 1: call that in politics? When you're basically like a spokesman

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's fake, but it is. It definitely

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Speaker 1: is how Jim Harbaugh is with his praise of Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: Remember in the offseason, he said he woke up from

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Speaker 1: a dream and that dream made him conclude he had

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Speaker 1: to get Justin Herbert to the Hall of Fame. Here's

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Speaker 1: the Charger's head coach talking about his quarterback who came

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Speaker 1: off an outstanding performance in South Hollow.

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Speaker 8: And a huge hit on Justin the kind of hit

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Speaker 8: that would have killed a lesser man. That's how big

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Speaker 8: that hit was. Let's be honest about that. And then

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Speaker 8: our guy Justin Herbert gets right back in the huddle

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Speaker 8: and it's third and fourteen. It's it's Quinton Johnson, which

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Speaker 8: ended up being a half yard short of the first

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Speaker 8: down that allowed for that fourth down. You know, I've

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Speaker 8: been telling people Justin's great, just unbelievable, incredible. The kind

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Speaker 8: of player that he is, that's especially hard. I think

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Speaker 8: most quarterbacks, most human beings. I mean, you take that

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Speaker 8: kind of big hit to come back the next play

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Speaker 8: and just stand in there and you know, look down

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Speaker 8: the barrel of the gun and hit another one. You know,

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Speaker 8: it's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: No, he's He's an absolute stud and it's fascinating. Last

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Speaker 1: year in the playoffs, Justin Herbert didn't play well, and

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Speaker 1: I felt like I was a lone voice of reasoning

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Speaker 1: saying they wouldn't have been in the playoffs without Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, he didn't play well. Their offensive line was

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Speaker 1: awful in the playoffs. But I think part of it

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Speaker 1: is that Harbaugh is so effuse continually in his praise

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Speaker 1: that people don't maybe know how to take it all.

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Speaker 1: Credit Jation Stewart for bringing this one up. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: want you just listen objectively to Micah Parsons. This is

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Speaker 1: how Michael Parsons end up playing on Sunday against the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 9: I told him, you know the other day, when they

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Speaker 9: were talking to me about the Snapcown was like I mean,

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Speaker 9: we could run gassers. We can be in practice and

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Speaker 9: you give me these plays. We could run to the ball.

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Speaker 9: But I was like, at the end of the day, like,

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Speaker 9: you gotta let me push through something. You gotta let me,

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Speaker 9: like you know, get tired and get war out out

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Speaker 9: there so that way I can become better and get

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Speaker 9: better from it. And you know, that's when I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 9: your reps can go up, like you gotta really like,

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Speaker 9: sometimes you gotta fight for your own right to play.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta fight for your right to play. This

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Speaker 1: goes counter to the hey can't do anything in Dallas, right,

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Speaker 1: can't do anything in Dallas. It also goes, you know,

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Speaker 1: counter to trying to this is you're trying to protect

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Speaker 1: players from themselves because most of them, the good ones,

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Speaker 1: they're always gonna want to play. Oh and they'll always

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Speaker 1: find a way to talk you into want to play.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it looks like do I think it

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Speaker 1: looks good for Michael Parsons. I don't. I don't think

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Speaker 1: faking a back injury, or faking the severity of a

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Speaker 1: back injury that that does seem to tempt fate and

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Speaker 1: tempt karma. It has happened, and for whatever reason in

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Speaker 1: the NFL people allow it to continue to happen. But

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Speaker 1: the idea that he he can talk his way into playing,

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Speaker 1: but a coach can't talk him into playing when he's

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Speaker 1: hurt is part of where we've gone societal wise, where

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Speaker 1: we've gone sportswise, whether it was real or imagined. You

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Speaker 1: you want to stay here, you got to go play.

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Speaker 1: And some people feel like coaches force them to play,

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Speaker 1: force them to take painkillers, force them to get back

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Speaker 1: He can talk his way into playing. That's an imbalanced system,

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Speaker 5: Doug the news within the last hour that Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 5: had got to the San Francisco forty nine Ers says

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Speaker 5: that it's a long shot for Brock Party to play

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Speaker 5: in Week two against the Saints. In fact, Shanahan said

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Speaker 5: that Party could miss multiple games because of the shoulder

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Speaker 5: and toe injuries suffered against the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: So he's got he's just banged up. There's no like

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Speaker 1: one real problem.

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Speaker 5: As Iowa, Sam, you put it in this way, Ioa Sam.

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Speaker 6: He shoulders, heeds in toes, he's in toes uh.

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Speaker 7: Sho toes, left shoulder, non throwing shoulder.

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Speaker 1: But all right, I mean great for mac Jones, are

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Speaker 1: they good? Like, how would we characterize the Niners.

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Speaker 5: Well, they've got the easiest schedule based on strength of

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Speaker 5: schedule to enter the season, and you go and get

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Speaker 5: a win against one of the better teams on your

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Speaker 5: schedule in week one. So whether they're good or not,

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Speaker 5: I think they're going to be in position. I think

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Speaker 5: that they're a good football team. I wouldn't say great.

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Speaker 5: I just don't know how that style is going to

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Speaker 5: hold up through seventeen games. As we talked about yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yep, so as we experienced prediction TV prediction Radio for

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Speaker 3: the ten days prior to the start of the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was given a lot of crap on this platform

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Speaker 3: and on Twitter for naysaying prediction radio. And the basis

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Speaker 3: four why I think predictions are silly is this very

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Speaker 3: scenario when those lazy radio sidements were choosing the over

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Speaker 3: unders on the forty nine Ers and they got to

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Speaker 3: the Saints in Week two and they just said.

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Speaker 5: That's a win.

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Speaker 1: That's a win. Yep.

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Speaker 3: How about we didn't factor that party would be missing

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Speaker 3: their tight end would be missing it. The calculation changes

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Speaker 3: every dy. It's not a league worth predicting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you just can't. I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I would use the word worth, but you

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Speaker 1: just it's it's virtually impossible predict the league where injuries

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Speaker 1: have such an incredible effect on the league. And and

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Speaker 1: here's the difference. Injuries have a huge effect on basketball.

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Speaker 1: They're just much more likely in football.

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Speaker 5: There's also a little something more at stake with the

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Speaker 5: forty nine Ers here because the schedule wise, which was

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Speaker 5: pointed out when they place George Kittle on IR, meaning

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Speaker 5: that he's going to miss the team's next four games.

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Speaker 5: Their fourth game in this upcoming stretch is a Thursday

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Speaker 5: night game. Their buy doesn't come until later on of

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Speaker 5: the season. I think it's like the first week in December,

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Speaker 5: to be honest with you. So they've got a long

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Speaker 5: way to go for their bye. But the thought process

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Speaker 5: with Kittle is because you have this short amount of

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Speaker 5: best to just put them on IR because you're probably

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Speaker 5: week against the Rams. So you had to have the

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Speaker 5: a break before facing Tampa that following week, just because

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Speaker 5: of the Thursday night contest against the Rams. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if the forty nine ers will follow that same

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Speaker 5: pattern with brock Purty. Obviously, different injuries and different when

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Speaker 5: hear off of what happened in Ames on Saturday. There

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Speaker 5: but how do we feel about this? Halliburton and the

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Speaker 5: in a rivalry game.

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Speaker 7: Sure, that's actually the first time I'm hearing about this.

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Speaker 7: I really can't say, video and everything, can't say I

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Speaker 6: But he became he kind of transcended, you know, sports,

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Speaker 6: like people don't. People don't think about Tyers Haliburton as

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Speaker 6: a cyclone. They think about him as a pacer, but

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Speaker 6: he reps the cyclones.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was wearing his Iowa state sweatshirt.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. He's a pretty likable guy, So

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Speaker 7: I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: But transcended the sports. I think he.

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Speaker 7: Transcended the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 6: I think he transcended with his his clutch shot after

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Speaker 6: shot after clutch shot.

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Speaker 5: I think he was he was a big deal. I'll

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Speaker 5: say this three hundred and sixty four days out of

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Speaker 5: the year. It's probably fine that day of that game.

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Speaker 5: If you saw him at the Des Moines Mall, Sutter

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Speaker 5: Rapids Mall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Also, you're in Iowa Hawkeye uniform in front of

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Speaker 1: Iowa State bands.

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Speaker 7: Like if I saw Tyre's Halliburton at a mall, I'd

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Speaker 7: be like, yo, what up?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 7: Like, I'd be like positive with.

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Speaker 1: He might probably be at the Appleton Mall. He's from Oshkosh.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I'm not gonna give him a hard time. I

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Speaker 7: respect him.

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Speaker 5: Outlets go the Outlets and osh Vegas. The NBA Commissioner,

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Speaker 5: Adam Silver says there's no news regarding expansion, despite the

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Speaker 5: topic being discussed at the NBA's Board of Governors meeting.

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Speaker 5: This is what he had to say on the Clippers investigation.

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Speaker 10: The burden is on the league if we're gonna discipline

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Speaker 10: a team, an owner, a player, or you know, any

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Speaker 10: of the constituent members of the league. I think, as

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Speaker 10: a matter of fundamental fairness, I would be reluctant to

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Speaker 10: act if there was sort of a mere appearance of impropriety.

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Speaker 10: I think that the goal of a full investigation is

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Speaker 10: to find if there really was impropriety. The public at

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Speaker 10: times reaches conclusions that later turn out to be completely false,

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Speaker 10: and so I do would want anybody else in situation.

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Speaker 10: Mister Bomber is in now or Kawhi Leonard for that matter,

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Speaker 10: to be treated the same way I would want to

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Speaker 10: be treated if people were making allegations against me.

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Speaker 1: I think it's completely fair, and that's part of where

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Speaker 1: I am with Pablo Torre. Don't get me wrong. Pablo

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Speaker 1: is a brilliant guy, and this is the second investigation

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Speaker 1: he's brought up, which are really interesting, but it's the

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Speaker 1: second one where you're like, I kind of feel like

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Speaker 1: these questions have been asked and answered, so I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Finally, dug three players that played together at Fresno State

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Speaker 5: banned forever by the NCAA after they were found to

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Speaker 5: try to manipulate their stats in a gambling scheme.

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Speaker 1: Which three players.

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Speaker 5: MIKEL Robinson, Stephen Vasquez who's now at San Jose State,

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Speaker 5: in Jalen Weaver, he was under him.

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Speaker 1: There was one more who I was actually recruiting, and

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Speaker 1: then some off the court stuff. I bailed on recruiting

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Speaker 1: and went to Fresno State. I'm thankful he's down in

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Speaker 1: the list. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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