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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had some real breaking news. We saw it coming.

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Speaker 3: It's been building now for basically about a year, but

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Speaker 3: robot umps are coming to baseball. Not right away, of course,

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Speaker 3: but next season. Starting in twenty twenty six, Major League

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Speaker 3: Baseball will implement a challenge system using the ABS symptom

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Speaker 3: system so that robot umps can determine balls and strikes.

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Speaker 3: The way it works is just like in all those

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Speaker 3: other sports. Teams will be able to challenge twice a game,

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Speaker 3: potentially more if they get it right, and if it

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Speaker 3: goes to that trains, you'll get a third challenge for free.

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Speaker 3: But as we mentioned, the big headline here, robot umps

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Speaker 3: coming to baseball twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Kelvin.

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Speaker 5: As you know, I've covered Major League Baseball for thirty

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Speaker 5: nine years, going on four decades next year, and I'll

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Speaker 5: admit I wasn't that hot about all the changes in

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Speaker 5: baseball and all the you know, wild card and all

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Speaker 5: those kind of things. I was against it. I'm not

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Speaker 5: even gonna sit here and act like I wasn't. And

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest. I'm not feeling good about this

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Speaker 5: as well. Not that I don't want the umpires to

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Speaker 5: to get it right as much as they can. We're

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Speaker 5: all human. Players make errors in the field. Managers make mistakes, right.

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Speaker 5: Umpires make mistakes too.

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Speaker 6: Here's what.

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Speaker 4: I'm frightened by.

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Speaker 5: Is they tell you that it's two challenges a game.

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Speaker 4: This is just to get started, do you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 5: Like like, yeah, well, once you let it out, they say,

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Speaker 5: once you let the toothpaste out of the tube, you

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Speaker 5: know you can't put it back in.

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Speaker 4: Because once they get going.

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Speaker 5: And people get comfortable with it, this is going to

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Speaker 5: buying umpire, by some system.

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Speaker 4: And here's the issue that I have in tennis.

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Speaker 5: When they when they do it, when they hit a ball,

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Speaker 5: whether it's in or out, you just have to nick

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Speaker 5: the pitcher only has to nick the line in the corner,

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Speaker 5: not throw the ball over this over this plate, right?

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Speaker 4: If I'm able to hit.

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Speaker 5: Those corners even though and technically they're a strike, but

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Speaker 5: is that where we're headed? And my proof positive why

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Speaker 5: I'm not that keen on always having replay or whatever

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Speaker 5: the replaces them in the NFL is not flawless.

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Speaker 4: There's plenty of times.

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Speaker 5: How many times, Kevin, are you watching games and they

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Speaker 5: still get it wrong with the replay, And in baseball

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Speaker 5: they've misused replay, especially when it comes to guys stealing bases. Kelvin,

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Speaker 5: you do the Dodgers pre imposed sometimes and all that,

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Speaker 4: That's not what the replay was for.

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Speaker 5: And That's what I'm worried about, is you start here

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Speaker 7: So I'm a work backwards like this.

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Speaker 1: I look at it as I robot, They'll robot the

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Speaker 1: dance RoboCop. I'm in for it. Here's why I'm in

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Speaker 1: for it, Rob, you just touched on a few things.

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Speaker 1: Number One, Baseball historically has been very slow to the party,

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Speaker 7: That's part of the tradition of them. So you mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: Let's add a pitch clock. Everybody I don't know about this.

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Speaker 1: It's part of the game. Let them do his thing.

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Speaker 1: Everyone for the most part has enjoyed it. You talked

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Speaker 7: They're trying to do things.

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Speaker 1: I applaud that in baseball for the most part, has

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Speaker 7: This is something they will be again last to the party.

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Speaker 1: We've seen it in all the other major sports except

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Speaker 7: The reason why I'm optimistic for it, it's a couple

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Speaker 1: One, Rob we've been seeing it on a high level

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Speaker 7: They have gone out of their way.

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Speaker 1: Every single year to add a new technology to show

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Speaker 7: Look at this angle.

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Speaker 1: You're already showing me that the umpire got it wrong

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Speaker 1: And one thing I'll give Baseball credit for, and even

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Speaker 1: in blood. We have we can never change it. They

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Speaker 7: So I'm open to trying it. And it might add

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned show hayes up and you got scooble

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Speaker 1: for a review. If we're all on pins and needles

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Speaker 7: So I'm not opposed to it.

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Speaker 1: I actually get your point and actually understand your point

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Speaker 1: of it's the it's college football for twelve twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 7: So I understand you you're.

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Speaker 5: Worry and it's not that that is My biggest concern

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Speaker 5: and and and my other argument is definitely, and you

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Speaker 4: Get it right. They don't listen, they don't getting it right.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna need umpires for the umpires and computers for

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Speaker 1: the computers. Like I feel like a camera, so hocky,

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Speaker 5: We don't need I don't need perfect baseball. That's not

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Speaker 5: every play that was mishandled, let's just score. Well, he

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Speaker 5: would have made that play, Aaron Judge would have caught

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Speaker 6: Just that was an hour and we all know what.

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Speaker 5: No, he has to actually catch the ball right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: O optimistic rob with this one that it is strictly

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Speaker 1: robot umpires period, meaning every pitch that's hold not because

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest things about sports. Yes it makes

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Speaker 7: I don't want to fully lose.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there's a lot on the line, there's legacies, there's money,

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Speaker 1: so you want to, you know, do it as best

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Speaker 1: I think it would have set you in most sports

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Speaker 1: that's ultimately what we are, humans who picked up a

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Speaker 4: Do we need robot players?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 5: Why worried about load management? I'm injured, they play every day.

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Speaker 7: Well I'm so sure, So hey, O Tani and Aaron

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Speaker 4: We know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: At some point, all right, Uh, this is interesting, and

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Speaker 5: people don't like baseball, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: And that's what my guard was about the whole pitchclock idea.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's the good part. But in this case,

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 8: We never have enough time to get to everything we

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Speaker 8: Well you know what it's called over promise. You should

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Speaker 4: a ripping Kelvin.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: This one comes to us courtesy of Will on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Kansas City barbecue sauce or Carolina barbecue sauce for Rob

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Speaker 3: Parker's back?

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Speaker 4: Could we talking lions? I don't want any sauce on.

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Speaker 7: You got all the sauce on your back.

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Speaker 6: I'm a woman.

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Speaker 7: You got sweet baby rays, open pit.

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Speaker 6: I need baby oil. It's all on your back, he

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Speaker 6: continues Lion segment.

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Speaker 3: Next, I brought the barbecue to glaze over Rob Parker's back.

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Speaker 6: The grill is ready, let's cook.

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Speaker 7: Where do we begin?

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Speaker 6: What's the only one I'm reading?

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Speaker 7: I'm not reading anything else.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was perfect from what we're talking about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well let's say let you know what, Let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead get that. I'm a fan of Sweet Baby Rais.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you couldn't have convinced me Sweet Baby

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Speaker 1: He ain't what I looked I thought he looked like.

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Speaker 1: But let's get to the game. Last night we were

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Speaker 1: We were concerned about the coordinators Ben Johnson leaving, Aaron

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Speaker 1: but Dagget these coordinators look good right now. They have

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Speaker 1: he knows all this. It looked like they knew him

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Speaker 1: And Shaq will say, man, you coming to this game

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Speaker 1: against I have in a Super Bowl, you have winning

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Speaker 1: in and you're able to put up thirty eight on

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Speaker 1: this team, four hundred and twenty six yards. Here's the

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Speaker 7: So I looked at this game a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: Now do I I think the Lions have something that

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Speaker 7: And you know this, You've been doing out radio with

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Speaker 1: In identity, Rob, they know who they are, what they do,

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Speaker 1: is attributed to Tan Campbell gambling. Campbell, he gambled even

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Speaker 7: He's going for it early. Is that first quarter fourth down,

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Speaker 1: He ends up being three for three because that's what

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Speaker 7: They're up eight, Why would you do this? You punt it,

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Speaker 1: They throw a fourth and you know too, and it

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Speaker 7: Dan Kembll knows exactly who he is.

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Speaker 1: He knows exactly what this team is, and you know

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Speaker 7: And to me, I.

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Speaker 1: Watched that game, and they look more prepared, they look

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Speaker 1: more in sync, they look more united, They play tougher,

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Speaker 1: they play faster, and I looked at them and that

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Speaker 1: knew who was gonna close. I call it ABC. If

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Speaker 7: And the Baltimore Ravens they don't know how to close.

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Speaker 1: For whatever reasons, I have them going to the super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: but it makes you nervous picking them because they struggle

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Speaker 1: closing games. And you don't know if it's Lamar, you

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's John Harball, who you've mentioned in

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Speaker 1: The way that defense looks this season. So I look

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Speaker 1: fourth down. Whether you like it or love it. I

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Speaker 7: They don't look like they're know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: The Lions come out, they know exactly what fourth down

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Speaker 1: they're running, They know exactly what play they're running on

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Speaker 6: Are you done with that lame take of the Lions?

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Speaker 6: They know exactly what did you wing?

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Speaker 1: They knew?

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Speaker 6: What? Did they know what they were doing against Green Bay?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 6: They did not.

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Speaker 1: Can they bank on two hundred and fifty yards on

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Speaker 6: Know they can?

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Speaker 1: Do You see how easily Baltimore was able to score

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Speaker 1: And the other one is if you're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: I didn't come away with the Lions are great. I

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking about. The fumbles costantly fumbles.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Lions got their Christmas gift and the Lions

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Speaker 6: That's what this was.

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Speaker 1: You'll look back on this and this will be the

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Speaker 1: want will be the game and you'll go back and go, Man,

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Speaker 1: what happened to that team? When they beat the Ravens

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Speaker 1: because this is this is happens over and over and over.

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Speaker 1: How many times are we gonna see this?

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Speaker 7: So why.

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Speaker 1: Because they have the greatest player. They have the greatest

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Speaker 6: Right now, That's what I want. Why I'm hot?

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Speaker 1: Why can't Lamar close? You can stop it with the Lamar,

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Speaker 1: I said, he's the best player. Why can't close the game?

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Speaker 1: They can get two hundred and fifty yards on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't have to do with Lamore closed the game? We

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Speaker 7: The game.

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Speaker 4: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: Come on for that game.

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Speaker 7: I can't Lamar Jackson can't.

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Speaker 6: Can we hold on to the football?

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Speaker 4: Come on?

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Speaker 1: Exactly, that's a lazy take. Let's that's absolute nothing to

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Speaker 1: on with mar Jackson football and Noalys. I need him

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Speaker 7: Radio.

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Speaker 1: He's okay to be critical of him. It's okay. I

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Speaker 1: promise you no do it, just promise you had none

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Speaker 7: He doesn't.

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Speaker 6: Last night had nothing to do with Lamar.

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Speaker 7: Did you watch the game war?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: No, you didn't?

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Speaker 6: Did too?

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Speaker 1: Then there's no way you walked away from that thinking

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Speaker 1: for the ninety seven percent of his games. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: play well. But what's the difference. Why do we talk

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Speaker 2: Give me a game.

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Speaker 1: Where Patrick's Mahomes defense gave up two hundred and fifty glad?

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Speaker 6: How about on the ground?

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Speaker 1: How about every single playoff game he played on a

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Speaker 1: Do you go hop, Lamar Jackson two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 6: Cups up the ball in the fourth and you're still

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Speaker 7: Came on that last time?

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Speaker 6: You kid? Keep doing that? You would have to doing that.

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Speaker 1: At some point, say Lamar Jackson, I need a bit

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Speaker 1: more from you to close games.

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Speaker 7: Just three you No bike issue would ever come.

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Speaker 1: I watched him in San Francisco blow out the forty

449
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Speaker 1: nine ers on Christmas Day. I've seen plenty of games.

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Speaker 1: He's been plenty, he robbed plenty. I need you when

451
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Speaker 1: you're when you're not in a fun.

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Speaker 7: Want to come.

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Speaker 6: Can you close the game?

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Speaker 1: Bar? He threw a ball Lamark Andrews last year in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: and what did he do?

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Speaker 6: He dropped it.

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Speaker 1: But Lamar can't get it done. Go watch tape. Go

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Speaker 1: watch the tape. They get, watch the tape.

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Speaker 7: They must.

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Speaker 1: He might win it to be this year. It's okay,

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Speaker 1: Rob Lamar Jackson trying to be.

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Speaker 7: Better and watch the game.

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Speaker 6: And you know what funny was against against Kansas.

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Speaker 1: City, Mars Jackson would up the two yard line if

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was right there after doing Lamar. If Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson was saying, Hey, yo, Dub, you're right. I gotta

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Speaker 1: be better. I gotta close games out. Nobody's saying that

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Speaker 1: Derreck Henry didnt foot things. You know how many things

469
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Speaker 1: happened to great quarterbacks are out of game and they

470
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Speaker 1: can find a way. And Lamar is too talented to

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Speaker 1: not be able to find a way at times when

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Speaker 1: it's critical.

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Speaker 7: At times, I.

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Speaker 6: Just think it's lazy. And this is what people do.

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Speaker 1: You'll bang on Lamar all you want and then he'll

476
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Speaker 1: win and you'll change your tune.

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Speaker 6: And I get it, No, no, no, get it.

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Speaker 1: He's because it takes He's all you have to do

479
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Speaker 1: is win one. Just like John Elway couldn't win, and

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Speaker 1: he won his last two Super Bowls his last two years.

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Speaker 4: And guess what.

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Speaker 1: John Elway is an all time great and he was

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Speaker 1: always great. Lamar Jackson is time great, which is why

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Speaker 1: we are not buying that. If Lamar Jackson wasn't at

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Speaker 1: all to give him forty points every game, because they

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Speaker 1: lost two games and they gave up forty points and

487
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Speaker 1: Lamar is the reason. And you start running back fumbled

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Speaker 1: in both of those games in the fourth quarter. So

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Speaker 1: so Lamar is going to get me something clean.

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Speaker 7: So guess what.

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Speaker 1: So Lamar Jackson is gonna look up and will have

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Speaker 1: played seven eight more years of amazing football, and at

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Speaker 1: some point we're gonna find every the defense did this,

494
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Speaker 1: His coach didn't do that. It's Derek Henry fumble dat.

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Speaker 1: At some point he has to be able to say

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Speaker 1: I have been this good. And watching that game last night,

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Speaker 1: there were too many moments that for the fourth when

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Speaker 1: they go for it on goal line against the Lions,

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Speaker 1: they just running players don't even they're just out there

500
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Speaker 1: doing stuff like they don't. They are not built, they're

501
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Speaker 1: not situated to absolutely go exactly what they're doing and

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Speaker 1: Lamar has to find ways. It's on him. He knows it.

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Speaker 1: If he's sitting next to me, he would say, you

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Speaker 1: are right now. Not every game. There's any games where

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Speaker 1: defense glets up this or Derek Henry fumbles five. But

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Speaker 1: we're saying when I need to depend on him. At

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Speaker 1: times he is faltered.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 3: Well, sticking to New York, you mentioned it rob less

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Speaker 3: than two two weeks after ESPN reported that the club

514
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Speaker 3: had a quote very specific strategy for Jackson Darner's development

515
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Speaker 3: because they viewed him in a long term like a

516
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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen type thing to be molded and

517
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Speaker 3: sculpted so we could have long term success.

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Speaker 6: One week after Russell Wilson throws for four.

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Speaker 3: And fifty yards and three touchdowns on the road in

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Speaker 3: Dallas in a game they should have won, the New

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Speaker 3: York Football Giants are making a change of quarterback. Out

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Speaker 3: goes Russell Wilson, Mister unlimited will be feeling very limited

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Speaker 3: on the bench in favor of rookie first round quarterback

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Speaker 3: Jackson Dart. Now you'll recall Jackson Dart in the preseason

525
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Speaker 3: was money. Completed sixty percent of his passes, three to

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Speaker 3: seventy two yards, three touchdowns, no picks. He also ran

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Speaker 3: for fifty two yards and a touchdown. He looked as

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Speaker 3: good as advertised with the store here again, once again,

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson out Jackson dart in in the Big Apple.

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Speaker 5: If I'm a Giants fan, I just have to look

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Speaker 5: at this Kelvin and be like, Okay, this is what

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Speaker 5: happens when you have a coach who's.

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Speaker 4: I know, he was Coach of the Year right his

534
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Speaker 4: first year, and since then it's been really bad.

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Speaker 5: Offense has just been abysmal, and I don't care who's

536
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Speaker 5: been that quarterback. And now the general manager and the

537
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Speaker 5: coach decide we got to do something to save ourselves,

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Speaker 5: not let's figure out what's going on. And I don't

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Speaker 5: know Jason Dart Is he gonna be good? Could he

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Speaker 5: be terrible?

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Speaker 4: To start?

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Speaker 5: They don't have a great offensive line. I don't know,

543
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Speaker 5: the running game isn't great. I just don't know what

544
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Speaker 5: they have. I know they got neighbors, right, I mean

545
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Speaker 5: is that they got him, but I just I'm not

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Speaker 5: so sure.

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Speaker 4: And even neighbors they've dug up a quote from him.

548
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Speaker 4: Did you see it? What he's saying. What he's saying,

549
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Speaker 4: it ain't a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: This is like a quote about the Giants offense, and

551
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Speaker 5: you know how bad it's been, and he basically was saying,

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Speaker 5: it ain't the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I know everybody says it is, but it ain't. Uh.

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Speaker 5: And it's surprising not that you can't make a move

555
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Speaker 5: or decide to make a move. Why didn't you start

556
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Speaker 5: the season with the kid? Why did you sign Russell Wilson?

557
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I just think the plans keep changing, and to me,

559
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Speaker 5: it feels desperate and I don't know what to expect.

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Speaker 5: It could be worse for the Giants, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: With this kid without offensive line? Maybe he your fine

563
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Speaker 5: lightning that dad, what was his name? The Vito came.

564
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Speaker 5: That kid came and won a couple of games. But look,

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Speaker 5: he ain't even with the team.

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Speaker 4: They let him go. I think he went to the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: This is just the Giants seemed to be lost as

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Speaker 5: far as maybe it's time for the general manager the

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Speaker 5: coach to move on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not I'm not mad at that that thought.

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Speaker 1: And my part was, this is why I thought they

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Speaker 1: would just go with him from the start meeting that

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Speaker 1: there is nothing there with kind of a retread of

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 7: And I understand it.

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Speaker 1: You play the veteran, you give the young guy some time.

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Speaker 1: But to me, look, I you're in a division where

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Speaker 1: everybody kind of has their guy, right. The Caybo just

580
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Speaker 1: stuck with Deck, whether they love him or not, They're

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Speaker 1: stuck with Deck. That is their guy, just period. From

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Speaker 1: you know, for the foreseeable future. The Commanders feel they

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Speaker 1: have found their guy in Jayden Daniels, right, and then

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Speaker 1: you look at the Eagles. Clearly they had the guy

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurt to the tune of a couple of Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl appearances and currently the reigning Super Bowl champ. So

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Speaker 1: to me, you need to hurry up and find your

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Speaker 1: guy if you choose to compete in this division over

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Speaker 1: the next handful of years. So I don't understand why

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Speaker 1: I was kind of blown away while they're wasting time.

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Speaker 1: And by all accounts, he's supposed to be really good

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Speaker 1: from the stuff that they've seen there in the training camp.

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Speaker 1: The stuff that they's heart, they've heard, we've heard coming

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Speaker 1: out of camp. And you were on vacation when we

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Speaker 1: had Charlie weiss On who obviously his son is the

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Speaker 1: quarterback coach and I want to say the offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: but for sure the quarterback coach there at Old Miss,

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Speaker 1: and he said that, you know, he's obviously spent some

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Speaker 1: time with him, and he was saying, how man, this

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Speaker 1: kid has it. It's not just the goods on the

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Speaker 1: on the field, it's what he asked. He asked me

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Speaker 1: interesting questions. What made Tom so great? He wanted to know.

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Speaker 1: I saw him in the film room and Charlie White

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Speaker 1: swears by this guy.

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Speaker 7: He said.

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Speaker 1: We pulled up the tweet, Rob g remember the tweet.

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Speaker 1: He had a tweet that essentially said like watch me.

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Speaker 1: And it was early, way early in college football season.

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Speaker 1: He said, Jackson Dart will be your first round pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this kid is that good, like go

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Speaker 1: ahead is gonna say. My point is at this point,

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Speaker 1: all that we've been hearing is the buzz coming out

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Speaker 1: of camp, buzz coming out of practice. He's been playing

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Speaker 1: to Patrick Mahomes role as they got ready, like he's

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Speaker 1: that guy. You should have seen him looking like Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: It's just that time. Give your fan base something excited.

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Speaker 1: Let him get those lives, practice at it, understand what

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Speaker 1: the real NFL defense feels like, find some continuity with

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, find some continuity with Malik Neighbors and

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Speaker 1: the rest of that offense. And then to me let him,

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Speaker 1: you know, go through it so that he's geared up

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Speaker 1: and ready next year so that you can compete, let

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Speaker 1: alone in the NFC, starting with your own division.

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Speaker 5: Like Michael Pennix junior, right, who everybody had to have,

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Speaker 5: and they didn't make the playoffs because they decided to

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Speaker 5: give the kid a start and now he's not even

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Speaker 5: playing like like this is This is what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: is what are you doing? Are you trying to develop

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Speaker 5: somebody or are you trying to win? Because the Michael

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Speaker 5: Pennix junior benching makes no sense if it if it's

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Speaker 5: about the future and giving your guy reps, right.

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Speaker 7: I do agree with that. If you it.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't make sense because doing that, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You're going back agree with that.

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Speaker 5: And this is what I'm saying, Like these guys are

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Speaker 5: so flaky and phony and and none of it makes

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Speaker 5: any sense to me because I don't really know what

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Speaker 5: they're doing.

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Speaker 6: Once you've made that commitment, why would you go back?

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Speaker 1: But that means that they're not really believing in it,

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Speaker 1: And the same thing would Dart.

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Speaker 4: We'll see, you know, like how long they stick with this?

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Speaker 4: If if it's really.

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Speaker 1: Bad and they lose six to eight in a row

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Speaker 1: or whatever and it looks like he's not ready, they'll

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Speaker 1: wind up taking him out.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you that.

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Speaker 1: But that's crazy that they if he's your guy, he's

649
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Speaker 1: your guy, and you ride it out. Josh Allen was

650
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: a turnover machine. He wasn't great, he was very Completion

651
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: percentage was in the fifties. Now you're looking at Peyton

652
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Speaker 1: Manning seven or six twenties exactly like nobody. If you've

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Speaker 1: identified that whatever the traits are that you need in

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Speaker 1: your organization, we needed to be X Y Z A

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Speaker 1: B C D bam, bam bam.

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Speaker 7: If he has those things, you believe he's the guy.

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Speaker 1: You give him the full run and you know, and

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Speaker 1: that's where you need general managers trust in the coach

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Speaker 1: and being like, hey, man, I know what we're about

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Speaker 1: to be up against.

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Speaker 7: But I believe in our pick.

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Speaker 1: I believe in what we see every day, being around

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Speaker 1: him in training camp, being around him in practice, being

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Speaker 1: around him you know when he does what he does,

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Speaker 1: And like, we're gonna ride this out, the bumps in

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Speaker 1: the bruises because we believe we've got a guy