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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, because you have a tremendous amount empathy for

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Speaker 3: We can see a.

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Speaker 4: Bunch of your you know, higher drafted guys, the hiants

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Speaker 3: What's your thought process behind that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've been on the road quite a bit,

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Speaker 2: I just think it's a kind of a start over

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Speaker 3: Here and they're figuring out how we do.

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Speaker 2: Things, there's you only put so many things in with

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Speaker 3: Kind of get their feet with. What do you view Eric.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I think it was a good college

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Speaker 2: Again, until he's out here with with our players and

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Speaker 2: I would say that it's it's pretty consistent with how

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Speaker 3: You know, there's five plays a day here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's really important.

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Speaker 3: Dames.

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Speaker 6: Where are you with with Jalen in terms of perhaps

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Speaker 5: Daves, what was your pre draft contact with Baldinotto. I'm

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Speaker 5: always interested by guys who are a little raw. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, not a lot. Yeah, not a lot.

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Speaker 4: With Jalen I, how much did your did that Alabama

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Speaker 3: You know he mentioned how that kind of you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: But I think you know, again, when you're evaluating these guys, Jordan,

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Speaker 3: In the SEC.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty good conference down there. No, he I

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Speaker 3: Did you call you after that? He said, he was

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Speaker 2: No, we were busy playing, getting a game, getting getting

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Speaker 3: We're pretty busy in our business. And forgot who it

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Speaker 3: No, but he didn't call me.

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Speaker 3: But when you have a rookie like that, yeah, uh

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Speaker 7: What are you trying to get out of that? For him?

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Speaker 3: Just making the calls and no, just just to have

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Speaker 3: That's that's about it. Agent, Actually, yeah, Jeremiah.

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Speaker 5: Did that help?

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Speaker 8: Does that?

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Speaker 3: Does that help?

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Speaker 1: Did you talk to Jeremiah at all during the process,

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Speaker 1: because that like maybe he knows some of the offense

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Speaker 1: like made that's a little different for the agent to

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Speaker 1: be a former player.

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Speaker 2: For Yeah, I'd say, look, Jeremiah, he was a very

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Speaker 2: smart player. You know what we did when I was

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Speaker 2: with him is you know, probably a little bit different now.

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Speaker 2: But you know, certainly I think having someone like that

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Speaker 2: for John Michael is probably a benefit.

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Speaker 3: You'd have to ask him.

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Speaker 2: I've stayed in contact with Jeremiah, you know, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of different things.

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Speaker 3: Got a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Trust in him, So it's good to be able to

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Speaker 2: bounce some things off of him, and you know, regarding

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Speaker 2: players that he may may represent.