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Speaker 3: dot com. Good morning, everybody, Happy Thursday. We have an

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Speaker 3: amazing show everybody today. What'll we be in Crystal Dee.

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Speaker 4: We do a lot of updates for you.

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Speaker 2: Have a lot of comments from Trump and Hegseth and

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Speaker 2: others with regard to the war, raising war questions and

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Speaker 4: Continuing in that direction.

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Speaker 2: We've got lots of updates with regard to the kinetic

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Speaker 2: action the war, specifically including what appears to have been

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Speaker 2: a siop from our government and the Israelis about a

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Speaker 2: Kurdish invasion of Iran's will break down for you what

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Speaker 2: we know there. We also had the War Powers resolution

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Speaker 2: vote in the Senate yesterday. It went down effectively along

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Speaker 2: party lines. We're also looking at a potentially fifty billion

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Speaker 2: a little trip down memory lane look back at some

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Speaker 2: war with Iran. Pretty funny that that's what their line

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Speaker 2: And also more and more American politicians are framing this

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Speaker 3: On in our show where they're like, oh, we can't

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Speaker 4: Let's get to the latest.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Let's go ahead and start here with some

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Speaker 3: latest comments from the Secretary heg Seth about the timeline

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Speaker 5: It means we will fly all day, all night, day

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Speaker 1: B two's, B fifty twos.

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Speaker 5: B ones, predator drones, fighters controlling the skies, picking targets,

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Speaker 3: So the direct quote, you can say, four weeks, could

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Speaker 3: Let me read you a quote from February seventh, two

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Speaker 3: So, if you all want to know exactly the situation

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Speaker 3: The President had a feeling again based on fact that

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Speaker 3: Interceptors are all running low. Boots on the ground are

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Speaker 3: change the tactical picture as it is. Secretary Hegseth. We

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Speaker 3: He noted that we'll be shifting in munitions to the

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Speaker 3: Both sides are leaking. The Iranians say they've rejected three

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Speaker 3: really caution everyone the censorship in the Gulf and Israel

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Speaker 1: That's being taken as evidence that the war is going better.

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Speaker 3: what's going on. Pay attention to these statements. The fact

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And you know there are indications that they were able

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Speaker 1: I mean this.

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Speaker 2: Supposedly they're at each other's storets et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: be more insider trading on polymarket with regard to you know, Oh,

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Speaker 2: this guy happened to call that Maduro was going to

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Speaker 2: the date that Iran would be attacked. Well, now he's

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Speaker 1: Well, and I can look.

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Speaker 8: If we didn't hit within two weeks, they would have

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Speaker 3: So if you're tracking six months ago, they were close

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Speaker 3: But just to think about how the recycling of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why it would have been really important

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Speaker 2: Now every day from a different official, we get a

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: You are asking the American taxpayer to flip the bill

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Speaker 4: So you know, that's where we are.

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Speaker 2: And every day the president comes out and has some

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a new Pentagon estimate from Nancy Yusef. She's

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Speaker 3: take an update here on this girls' school bombing that

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Speaker 6: Can you give us an update on what the administration knows?

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Speaker 6: Just on the basis that with the information you would

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Speaker 3: I've already seen their own propaganda there like it wasn't US,

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Speaker 2: So this is the total Israelification of the United States

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Speaker 2: It was apparently a double tap strike. And you guys

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Speaker 2: That's apparently according to reporting here from Middle East I

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Speaker 3: Look like I said, we don't know if it was

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Speaker 3: it was us. And somebody did it, you know, And

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Speaker 3: initially there was some Israeli claims, They're like, oh, it

441
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Speaker 3: was a failed IRGC missile and all of that. There's

442
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Speaker 3: no evidence now currently to suggest any of that. But

443
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 3: this will be a major major hit to the prestige

444
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Speaker 3: the US military. And I mean, even if it was israelative,

445
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 3: it was done in a joint conjunction with US. Is

446
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Speaker 3: really strike. There's a lot of complicity that comes in

447
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 3: that too, for not just selling the weapons, for supporting

448
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 3: or being part and attached to something like that. And

449
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Speaker 3: it does show you even the dangers of a so

450
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Speaker 3: called precision bombing campaign, which Professor Robert Pape has really

451
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Speaker 3: been warning about.

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Speaker 2: I mean, between the it being you know, a dot

453
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Speaker 2: on the map of the strike locations and the fact

454
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Speaker 2: that they will not say that it was not US,

455
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Speaker 2: I mean, it seems pretty there are two suspects, Israel

456
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Speaker 2: or the US. And you know the fact that we're

457
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Speaker 2: not denying it at this point I think makes it

458
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Speaker 2: pretty clear what ultimately happened here. On your point about AI,

459
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Speaker 2: I think is a really important one, just to pause

460
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Speaker 2: on for a moment. Part of why Gaza was so

461
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Speaker 2: deadly and so horrifying is because it was the first

462
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Speaker 2: you know, AI enabled ultimately genocide and the amount of

463
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Speaker 2: target generation that was created is what helped to enable

464
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Speaker 2: the death and destruction in Gaza. And now you have

465
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Speaker 2: you know, they're still using Claude, they're still using Anthropic,

466
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Speaker 2: even though they're having some whole spat over that, and

467
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Speaker 2: you know, Anthropic as much as they have this brand

468
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Speaker 2: that they've publicly created. Oh we're the good guys and

469
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Speaker 2: we care about humanity, blah blah blah. Well, that's the

470
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Speaker 2: AI that is being used to generate strike packages and

471
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Speaker 2: presumably to help create the level of death and destruction

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Speaker 2: and the deadly nature of what's going on here. You know,

473
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Speaker 2: the estimates are at this point some around one thousand

474
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Speaker 2: Iranians who have been killed, although it's very difficult to

475
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Speaker 2: know precisely what the numbers are for them.

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Speaker 3: So let's then turn to what I thought was one

477
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Speaker 3: of the most single disgraceful utterances by a US Secretary

478
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Speaker 3: of Defense ever. Here is Secretary Hegsath who is chastising

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Speaker 3: the media for covering the depths of American soldiers and

480
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Speaker 3: not appropriately cheerleading the war on enough. I couldn't believe

481
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Speaker 3: it whenever I saw this happen live. Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 5: This is what the fake news misses. We've taken control

483
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Speaker 5: of Iran's airspace and waterways without boots on the ground.

484
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Speaker 1: We control their fate.

485
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Speaker 5: But when a few drones get through or tragic things happen,

486
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Speaker 5: it's front page news.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

488
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Speaker 5: The press only wants to make the president look bad,

489
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Speaker 5: but try for once to report the reality. The terms

490
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Speaker 5: of this war will be set by us at every step.

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Speaker 3: And so he is saying that the fake news does

492
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Speaker 3: their part by trying to make the president look bad

493
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Speaker 3: because some tragic things happen. Can you imagine a more

494
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Speaker 3: disgraceful statement where he is chastising us for covering the

495
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Speaker 3: deaths of American American soldiers, by the way, who it

496
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Speaker 3: appears were not in a properly fortified tactile operation center, who,

497
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Speaker 3: by their own admission, I mean, one of these women

498
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Speaker 3: who was killed in the strike, had apparently spoken to

499
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Speaker 3: her husband according to his own interviews, about how she

500
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Speaker 3: was worried about what was going on. She was working

501
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Speaker 3: here in the tactical Operation center, and what they had

502
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Speaker 3: done is that they were fighting like the last war,

503
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Speaker 3: So they put up these walls that were around the

504
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Speaker 3: operation center which were designed for suicide bomb attacks. But

505
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Speaker 3: anybody who has watched literally anything about the now four

506
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Speaker 3: year long war in Ukraine knows that that's not how

507
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Speaker 3: it was going to come. Any sort of attack, it

508
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: was going to be by a suicide drone. And that

509
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Speaker 3: is exactly what happened, which appeared to have a direct

510
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Speaker 3: strike directly on here, which raises a whole number of questions.

511
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Speaker 3: Number one, why was there no counter drone stuff that

512
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Speaker 3: was even prepared? Right now, the US military is scrambling

513
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Speaker 3: and is going to buy counter or drone technology from

514
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Speaker 3: the Ukrainians. Not sure why we have to buy it

515
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,959
Speaker 3: since we're the ones who paid for it, but okay,

516
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: so we're going to buy all of this counter drone

517
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Speaker 3: technology stuff from the Ukrainians, which means that we didn't

518
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Speaker 3: do any studying. We actually didn't prepare properly for a

519
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Speaker 3: lot of the bases. By Donald Trump's own admission, they

520
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Speaker 3: have said that they were not prepared for some of

521
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Speaker 3: the strikes that were on the Gulf. So that means

522
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Speaker 3: there wasn't an active, active planning that happened inside. And

523
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 3: now six of these Americans are dead. And what's worst

524
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Speaker 3: about it is that they keep saying, oh, that's just

525
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Speaker 3: the first of many to come. They keep saying, oh,

526
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Speaker 3: more casualties could be more. I mean, God only knows

527
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Speaker 3: are there more that they haven't told us about?

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Speaker 1: Hope not right?

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Speaker 3: Having covered this for a long time, usually they just

530
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Speaker 3: come out within twenty four hours. But at the very least,

531
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Speaker 3: they're expecting more. And the fact that they're expecting and

532
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Speaker 3: preparing a public for more and this is the way

533
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Speaker 3: that they want to cover it is beyond disgraceful, beyond disgraceful.

534
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: So let's you know, they don't want us to cover

535
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Speaker 3: apparently these troops because it's bad for morale. It's not

536
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: our job to do morale. That's not our job at all.

537
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Speaker 3: Let's put some of these up here on this screen.

538
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Speaker 3: The Pentagon is now idd six of the soldiers who

539
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Speaker 3: were killed in the Kuwait attack. Many of them were

540
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Speaker 3: attached to this army reserve unit out of Des Moines, Iowa.

541
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Speaker 3: And actually from their ranks you can see that many

542
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Speaker 3: of these were very senior US Army personnel. But the

543
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Speaker 3: one that sticks with me is this one Sergeant decland Cody.

544
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Speaker 3: He was twenty years old. He was a student in

545
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Speaker 3: He was a student who was studying information systems, who

546
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Speaker 3: was taking classes online from Kuwait, and again a member

547
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Speaker 3: of the US Army Reserve. And I want this also

548
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: show everybody too. These are people who never I mean, look,

549
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 3: they volunteered. I'm not stepping away from that, but it

550
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: shows you the problem of our over extended empire is

551
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Speaker 3: that our bases have to be staffed by US Army

552
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Speaker 3: reservis because we don't even have enough troops to be

553
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Speaker 3: able to staff all these even in a potential active

554
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 3: war zone. And here you have a twenty year old

555
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: kid who had his entire life ahead of him, who

556
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: was born And I just can't get away from this

557
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 3: four to five years after nine to eleven, who just

558
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 3: perished in another American war in the Middle East. How

559
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: does that not break your heart. I've covered so many

560
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: of these over the years, written obituaries for kids younger

561
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: than me. I wrote my first obituary for a kid

562
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Speaker 3: who was younger than me nine years ago who stepped

563
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Speaker 3: on an ied in Iraq. And know so many people

564
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Speaker 3: who were wounded, or even families of the people who

565
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Speaker 3: were killed, who were over there, and now we have

566
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Speaker 3: another one, and the Secretary of Defense is telling us

567
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Speaker 3: that it is basically, this is two thousand and two,

568
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Speaker 3: two thousand and eight BS.

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Speaker 1: Freedom isn't free.

570
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Speaker 3: The only way to support our troops and more in

571
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 3: our dead is to support the war, is to support

572
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Speaker 3: the president. And there is nothing less patriotic actually than that.

573
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Speaker 3: And we're not falling for this bullshit again. We are

574
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Speaker 3: not falling for this bullshit again. I just think it's

575
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Speaker 3: so it's not just about disgrace. If you ask me,

576
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Speaker 3: there hasn't been enough meat coverage actually of these people,

577
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: because we should learn the cost. We talked about the

578
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: girls they're dead. Okay, little girls are dead. Who knows

579
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 3: who killed them? Now these these people, they're dead. I mean,

580
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: these American soldiers are dead at the decision point of

581
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: the United States president of the Israeli president, and their

582
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: blood it's on the it's on our leadership. Yeah, and

583
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Speaker 3: we should be able to say that without being denigrated

584
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: as cowards or anti you know, you know, anti war,

585
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 3: anti American. It's anti American to mourn the deaths of

586
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Speaker 3: a twenty year old kid who was in Kuwait, right,

587
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Speaker 3: It's just it really really gets me.

588
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Speaker 2: It reminds so much of how they were trying to

589
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 2: during their Rock warhide the coffins coming home. They didn't

590
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: want photographs, they didn't want pictures of that, because, yeah,

591
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: they don't want people to actually grapple with the cost

592
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Speaker 2: And you know, the elites of this country, it's not

593
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Speaker 2: their sons and daughters buy and large, you go and

594
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: fight and die, and these wars barons not gonna be

595
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Speaker 2: headed over there anytime soon. And they seem to view

596
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Speaker 2: all of this like it's some kind of game or

597
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 2: you know, TV show is I mean, obviously we have

598
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: a reality TV president, but Pete hegsath too is primarily

599
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: a TV personality, and he's a man who is clearly

600
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: out of his depth and he knows that, and so

601
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 2: he has adopted this persona that he thinks makes him

602
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: look like a tough guy. And he's adopted these sort

603
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Speaker 2: of like habits of discourse that he's drawn from, you know,

604
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: what he thinks Trump would say. And Trump's the ultimate,

605
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: you know, the ultimate daddy figure for the MAGA, right,

606
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: and so he thinks that by lashing out at the

607
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: fake news media trying to make the president look good,

608
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Speaker 2: look bad, rather that he's going to look like a

609
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Speaker 2: big man.

610
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Speaker 4: He's going to look like he's doing the right thing here.

611
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Speaker 2: And you know, I mean this whole presser where he's

612
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: talking about we're going to rain down death and destruction.

613
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: He's playing a character. He's decided he wants to adopt

614
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: this persona of like a comic book villain. And that's

615
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Speaker 2: his whole approach to this, because he does not know

616
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Speaker 2: what he's doing. We were before this, I mean, at

617
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 2: the very beginning of the administration, we're reporting about how

618
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: the Pentagon is total chaos under him, like he.

619
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Speaker 4: Has no business being in this position.

620
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Speaker 2: And what a disgrace that now we have American service

621
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Speaker 2: members dead, we have Iranian civilians dead, We have people

622
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Speaker 2: dead throughout the entire region.

623
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Speaker 3: Huaighty soldiers who've been killed, absolutely guards, random personnel, airport guys.

624
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Speaker 2: I mean, the Israelis are blown up the police stations

625
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: in Iran because they want to foment chaos and civil

626
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Speaker 2: war and some sort of uprising. And the President of

627
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: the United States cannot even give a straight answer about

628
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 2: what the hell the goal is and why we're doing it.

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Speaker 2: Just think about that, and you know, I keep coming

630
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: back to some of the emails that reveal the way

631
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: that these people just do not see others below the

632
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: elite class as being truly human. So they're happy to

633
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: throw you know, your sons and daughters into a meat

634
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: grinder because you know, for whatever reasons, because Israel pressure

635
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: does because I want to look like a big, tough guy,

636
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: because I feel like more of a man when I

637
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: can send American fighters in potentially to their death. And

638
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: you know, that's it's sick, it's depraved, and that's exactly

639
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: what's going on here.

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Speaker 3: I want to call now for a video which is

641
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: put out by the White House where they literally edited

642
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: war that is currently happening with an intro from a

643
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: video game, just to show you the entertainment value.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. So there you go. They're literally

645
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: tweeting out that's an actual video.

646
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Speaker 3: We're released by the White House of the United States

647
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Speaker 3: of America with the title courtesy of the Red, White,

648
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: and Blue Country music Lyrics and video games.

649
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Speaker 1: It's not a game.

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Speaker 3: It's not a game to the family of a twenty

651
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Speaker 3: year old, it's not a game to a mother of two.

652
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Speaker 3: And think about you know some of these some of

653
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Speaker 3: these people there. You read their stories in this NBC

654
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Speaker 3: News article. They're like, oh, she loved gardening, you know,

655
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Speaker 3: and these people are dead. Not to mention some of

656
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Speaker 3: these girls and others in Iowa, they're mourning them. You know,

657
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: the university of this kid went to. They're talking about, Oh,

658
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: he was so great and loved his work. Is his

659
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: father and sister.

660
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Speaker 1: Talking about this.

661
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Speaker 3: His sister was talking about how upset she was thinking

662
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: about how scared he was near the end. People shouldn't

663
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: have to think that or if their lives are going

664
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: to be on the line. And everyone's like, oh, they

665
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: volunteered for it. I mean, look, yeah, I think they volunteered,

666
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: you know, with the theory at least, I think the

667
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: theory that their lives would not be fodder for video

668
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: games and for you know, egomaniacal power plays or being

669
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: jerked around religious religious blood.

670
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: Holy wars exactly.

671
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: And so that is the ultimate you know, screw you,

672
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: I think, to an all volunteer military force.

673
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, the military brass the share of the

674
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: Joint chiefs was warning like, it's not like they didn't know, right,

675
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: I mean, we're not rocket scientists over here, and we've

676
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: been tracking this problem with the stockpiles of weaponry and

677
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: interceptors in for two ticular. You know, this drone technology

678
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: has been used extensively in Ukraine, these Shahid drones, and

679
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: so this was all known, it was all very predictable,

680
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: and yet you know, these individuals, these service members were

681
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: in completely unprotected in like a triple wide trailer, and

682
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: the US rushes into this thing because of whatever basket

683
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: of weird reasons, many of which we still don't even know.

684
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: But with this, yeah, this holy war, you know, justification

685
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: now increasingly coming out. Of course, he set's got his

686
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: Crusader Cross tattoo, et cetera, et cetera. Trump who knows

687
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: what's in the Epstein files and what his and the

688
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: money he's taken from Miriam Addelson and what all is

689
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: going on in the background, And he feels like such

690
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: a big tough guy after Venezuela, and all of that

691
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: fuels now us being pushed into this conflict that the

692
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: American people do not support. And so yeah, it's sad.

693
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: These these individuals trusted the American government to take their

694
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: live series and to not risk their lives without a

695
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: good reason. And ultimately, you know, they were betrayed. Yeah,

696
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: that's the bottom line.

697
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: Exactly, and I think everybody should be able to say that.

698
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: Turning now to some updates on the battlefield, a huge

699
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: decision leaking out now from Washington. Let's put this up

700
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: here on the screen. Do cape some of this in

701
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: mind that things are fast moving and this itself could

702
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: be a bit of a change. But what they are

703
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: reporting is that Trump calls on the Kurds to aid

704
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: US effort in Iran, quote offers support. In my opinion,

705
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: they're dramatically underplaying this because they say quote and calls

706
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: this week to Kourdish minority leaders in Iran and neighboring Iraq.

707
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: President Trump has offered quote extensive US air cover and

708
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: other backing for anti regime Iranian Kurds to take over

709
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: portions of western Iran. This is basically the two thousand

710
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: and one Afghanistan model. And this is the closest that

711
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: we are going to come now so far of an

712
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 3: admission about boots on the ground. In fact, Crystal, if

713
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 3: you pair some of the fear of those Democratic senators,

714
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: I believe that this is what it was about. Because

715
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: just to explain, if you weren't following the way that

716
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 3: it worked is that we had these so called like

717
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: special Forces advisors that were on the ground with the

718
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: Northern Alliance. They were calling in air strikes. We had

719
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: air cover that would come in support the Army CIA. Actually,

720
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 3: I believe the CIA officer were the first person was

721
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: even killed in the war in Afghanistan. So you could

722
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: see that this is exactly the way that this would

723
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: that this would happen. We know from some previous reporting

724
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: already that many of these Kurdish separatist groups inside of

725
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: Iran have had CIA munitions provided to them now for weeks.

726
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: In addition to Massad.

727
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: It would make sense too because we know from the

728
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: Masad and from others that there was a lot of

729
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: smuggling to inside of Iran during the protest movement, which

730
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: would make sense.

731
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: Now.

732
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: We also know in northern Iraq, which is where all

733
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: the Kurds is Kurdistan as part of that country, that

734
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: many of these groups, you know, it's like transnational in

735
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: terms of moving back and forth. There's a lot of

736
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 3: loyalty of course, and support from the military. There's a

737
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 3: military base. If there was a US support civil war effort.

738
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Speaker 3: This is exactly what it would look like this would

739
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: of course be a direct effort to balkanize and destroy

740
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: the entire country.

741
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: That's what you do.

742
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: This is civil war. This is the Afghanistan, Libya, Syria model.

743
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: What you do You pour a bunch of weapons into

744
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 3: a group and you basically say we've got your back.

745
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 3: You don't actually have their back, as the Curs I

746
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: think have learned for many years, but you will be

747
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: a useful tool. Yeah, they probably have. I don't know

748
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: this time. We promise right this time. So what We're

749
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: going to give you a bunch of weapons, We'll give

750
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: you some air cover. We're going to use you as

751
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: a tool, as a cudgel to basically try to destroy

752
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 3: the regime in the interim.

753
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: Who's going to take that? Laying down? Oh, Ankara, I'm

754
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: sure that.

755
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: The Turks will just be like, oh, for sure, will

756
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 3: allow an independent Curtistan to happen.

757
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: Nope, not going to happen.

758
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: There will be some funneling itself of weapons, perhaps their

759
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 3: own use of air strikes. Everything I'm talking about already

760
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: happened in Syria literally within the last decade.

761
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: We know that this will happen. And then what's going

762
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: to happen.

763
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: Well, that's going to inspire some sectarian conflict, which usually

764
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: goes super well. Right for the United States, We've definitely

765
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 3: got a handle on that. A nationalism, let's say, amongst

766
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: the Iranian population, which is still loyal to the regime.

767
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 3: They'll call up young people. It's as if the Irani

768
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: Rock War, one of the bloodiest conflicts in human history,

769
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 3: had never happened before.

770
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: Look at their capacity.

771
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: For suffering, for death, to be able to absorb all

772
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 3: of these losses, even whenever we're striking them from the air.

773
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: So could this is not just an effort at regime chain,

774
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 3: it is an effort at regime collapse. Yeah, a full

775
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: blown insurgency. Ninety two million people live in this country,

776
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: so many different popular with Azaris and all these other

777
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: people who are all talking right now, they'll get involved,

778
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: their proxies and others will funnel weapons, and it will

779
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: look like Syria or Libya completely collapse, failed state, except

780
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 3: with ten x the population. Refugees going everywhere, already seeing

781
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: reports about people trying to leave the country of Iran. Yesterday,

782
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 3: somebody was talking to me about this Pakistani faction on

783
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: their border and their own funding that we could potently

784
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 3: use as a cudgel there.

785
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: This is a nightmare.

786
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 3: I mean, prepared to get acquainted with terms like Blokis

787
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 3: and Kurds. And now there's a Christian population Azari's. It's

788
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: not just one homogeneous population who all hate us, regardless

789
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: of what the Trump administration is trying to sell us.

790
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: This is the most dangerous turn yet. This is the

791
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: Seria Libya model. They don't want to declare victory, and

792
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: I think this is why the Democratic senators were sounding

793
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: the alarm. There is no possibility of some sort of

794
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: armed incursion where you just give them the weapons, where

795
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: there aren't you special advisors on the ground. That's a

796
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: boot on the ground, regardless of how they want to

797
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: define it or not. Happen in Afghanistan, happened in Libya,

798
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 3: happen happen in Syria as well. Then that's why we

799
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: just withdrew all of our But why do you think

800
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 3: we had all those bases in Syria for exactly operations

801
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: like this? So this is I mean also the last thing.

802
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 3: This is an absolute confirmation. This is going to happen forever,

803
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: like you don't six weeks, eight weeks. No, this is

804
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 3: a year's long commitment at this point if they're going

805
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: to go down this road.

806
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: So we don't know.

807
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: I mean, some sources claiming that it's already happening, some

808
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: saying no, that that's fake news. But regardless from the

809
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: very top, the President of the United States on the

810
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: phone with regime change activists saying, Oh, we're going to

811
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: give you air cover.

812
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: That's it.

813
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: That's a you know, as long as it gets in

814
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: terms of foreign entanglement.

815
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot to learn from those. It could

816
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: put be one up on the screen, because initially there

817
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: were these very certain reports from all of the regime stenographers,

818
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: like the Barock revieds et cetera, that Kurdish forces in

819
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: a Rock had launched a ground military offensive into a Run,

820
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: that this was happening. They had crossed the borders, they

821
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: were in I run and we covered before how you know,

822
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: we had taken out a bunch of these border guards

823
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: along the border to enable exactly this. So it felt,

824
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: you know, it seemed credible and it's exactly the kind

825
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: of shit that we do all the time, and that

826
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: the Israelis would be interested exactly for this reason to

827
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: try to collapse the state this seems to have been

828
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: based on what we can tell, put B two up

829
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: on the screen more of a sy op and wish

830
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: casting than it was an actual reality in terms of

831
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: facts on the ground, because the leaders of various of

832
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 2: these Kurdish factions denied that any of this was happening.

833
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: So this is from drop site News some exclusive reporting

834
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 2: from them, they say. Multiple media reports, including some citing

835
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: anonymous US officials, have indicated Kurdish militants have now crossed

836
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: from Iraq into Iran in order to seize Kurdish territory

837
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: in spark and uprising. The reports follow claims the CIA

838
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: has been seeking to arm Kurdish fighters to destabilize Iran.

839
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: Such an incursion remains a future possibility, but well informed

840
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: sources tell drop site News no such evasion has yet

841
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: to take place. Journalist Alexis Delumi, who is in Syrian

842
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: and Iraqi Kurdistan reporting for drop Site incredible they have.

843
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: This person reports that three sources from the Kurdish Liberation

844
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: movement with knowledge of the situation have told him no

845
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 2: such invasion is underway and that PJAKA the only Kurdish

846
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: organization with robust military capacity that is part of the

847
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: coalition being discussed is unlikely to make such a move

848
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 2: at this moment. Now, what have these reports done.

849
00:39:59,560 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 4: Well?

850
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: For one thing, they create the idea in the public

851
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: that you are going to have this uprising, that you

852
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: have these forces coming in, that there's this ground invasion,

853
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: and by the way, of course, they don't talk about

854
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: our direct involvement in any of this, that there's this natural,

855
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: organic uprising. It also makes these Kurdish forces targets for

856
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: the Iranians, and in fact, there were reports yesterday that

857
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: the Iranians started bombing some of the Kurdish forces and

858
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: factions as a result of this reporting, saying that a

859
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: ground invasion had already begun. All of this is a

860
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: long way to say there are already multiple syops that

861
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: are being operated by our government, by the Israelis no doubt,

862
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: by the Iranians as well, And so be very very

863
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: leery of any of the information that comes out wait

864
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: until things are confirmed with evidence, because the information warfare

865
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: is just as thick and just as heavy handed as

866
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: the actual warfare on the ground.

867
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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, very important, But also you can gleam,

868
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: you can glean this, what you can gleam is that

869
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: they want the impression of a civil war to happen,

870
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 3: to widen the war, to collapse the regime, to get

871
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: them afraid inside. None of this is consistent with any

872
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: of the current statements, like at least that are on

873
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: the record from the Secretary of State, from the Vice President,

874
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: They're like, look, we just want to degrade their capacity,

875
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: and we would prefer if somebody took over who was better.

876
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: But we're not going to do very much about it.

877
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: That's not the same thing.

878
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: That is not what we are watching all happen in

879
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: front of our eyes. Let's actually take a look now

880
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: at some of these strikes that are coming out from Tehran.

881
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 3: From a limited amount of video that we've been able

882
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: to see, by the way, we should get some better video.

883
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: We have a couple of international journalists to just crass

884
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 3: the Iranian border this morning, but you can see I mean,

885
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: I mean this is in broad daylight, just blowing the

886
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: crap out.

887
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: Of buildings people.

888
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 3: You have millions of people in a highly urban area.

889
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: There are some reporting I've seen that a large portion

890
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: of the city has been evacuated. But what you could

891
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 3: really take away, I think from that is that these

892
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 3: are Look again, we don't even know if it's US

893
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: or Forsraeli strikes. The US government has already said, oh

894
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: my god, you know so much is happening.

895
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: We haven't even cut this.

896
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: Did you notice the Secretary of Defense and General Kine brag.

897
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 3: They said, some of you may remember Iraq two thousand

898
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: and three. We have dropped twice the amount of bombs

899
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 3: from two thousand and three Shakanaw. And I was like, wait,

900
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: we're bragging about that. I was like, do we look

901
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: back on that as a victory? Did anybody at the

902
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: White House go, do we really want comparisons to Shakanaw.

903
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: So they're telling us, you can literally take their own

904
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 3: word for it. We've dropped two times the amount of

905
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: bombs in Shakanaw in the middle of Iraq. If you

906
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 3: remember what all of that looked like. So remember again

907
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: about censorship and about some of the video very limited

908
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: amount that is already coming out. We should hopefully be

909
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: able to get a little bit more information as some

910
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: of these international journalists continue to cross into Iran. Let's

911
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: also again just to underscore that point, here's a clip

912
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 3: from CNN where they're openly saying, hey, we would show

913
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: you this, but the Israeli government doesn't want us to.

914
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen, we're not showing you that because

915
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: we're not going to show Israeli government does not allow

916
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: us or want us to show where that may have come.

917
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: Up that interceptor.

918
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're not going to show you that. I mean,

919
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: thanks for the honesty, I guess. But it does demonstrate

920
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 3: and we've seen this from Trey Yanks, from Jeremy Diamond,

921
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: now from CNN and others. They're very consistent about, hey,

922
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: we can't show this to you because the Israeli government

923
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: well less In fact, there was a CNN Turk crew

924
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: filming crew who was arrest detained on camera while they

925
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 3: were filming in the middle of Israel, and the Israelis

926
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: were like, hey, you got to stop, and they took

927
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 3: the camera down and they started taking you remember during

928
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: the Twelve Day War they did the same thing when

929
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 3: you were showing some of the damage that had already happened.

930
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: We do know from just from the ballistic missile alerts

931
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 3: that there were tons of alerts last night and I

932
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 3: wake up this morning, nothing, there's no video at all.

933
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 3: It's like really you intercepted all of them.

934
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

935
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: And yet that's what the level of war reporting is

936
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: right now. Remember in Gaza too, that they would often

937
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 3: take journalists on a ride and then confiscate or check

938
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 3: their footage whenever they were coming out, and they said,

939
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: you're only allowed to report whatever we tell you.

940
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: So everyone be extremely wary of what that looks like.

941
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: They're still not allowing international journalists inside of Gaza. So

942
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: I mean that, yeah, that's the level of control. And

943
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,959
Speaker 2: look it goes without saying. It's crazy how these quote

944
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: unquote journalists they just accept this, like they don't even

945
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: feel ashamed when they're telling you, like, oh, we're not

946
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: going to show this because the Israeli government doesn't want

947
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: you to. I feel like, I mean, they definitely would

948
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: feel more sense of upset if it was the American

949
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: government telling that. If it was Trump, you know who

950
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: was saying oh, you can't film that, they'd be like,

951
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: screw you, We're going to film in any way.

952
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 4: Press freedom.

953
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 2: But when it's the Israeli, oh, we've got to listen

954
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: to the Israelis can't show that, et cetera, et cetera.

955
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: It's crazy to that point, you know, let's put b

956
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: ten actually up on the screen, because you know, it's

957
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: clear that the person who really has the broader plan

958
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: in mind and is driving the train at this point

959
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: is Benjamin Netanyahu.

960
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 4: So it's very important to pay attention to.

961
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: The Israeli press to statements from net Yahoo and his

962
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: crew of total psychos that are over there in Israel

963
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: that are driving the show, that have their own like

964
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: you know, biblical religious like blood feud ideas in mind

965
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: here as well. But in any case, this was an

966
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: important article from the Financial Times because it has some

967
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: reporting about the way the Israelis are thinking about this.

968
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: It says Israel expects weeks long war against Iran, in

969
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: other words, not some quick in and out. There was

970
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: some reporting that net Yahoo was concerned that Trump may

971
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: have been talking to the Iranians through back channels and

972
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: had to like check in and make sure that there's

973
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: not any possibility that this war's going to end anytime soon.

974
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that those you know, back channels were

975
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: open anyway, but nan Yahoo had to check in and

976
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: make sure that the war was going to keep going.

977
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: We need war, death, more destruction, war chaos more, refugee crisis, etc.

978
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 2: In any case, an analyst told the Financial Time, summarizing

979
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: the Israeli government's position, quote, if we can have a coup, great,

980
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: If we can have people on the streets, great, If

981
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: we can have a civil war, great. Israel could not

982
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 2: care less about the future or the stability of Iran.

983
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: That is a point of difference between US and the US.

984
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: I think Washington is more concerned about nation building and

985
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: threats to their regional partners.

986
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 4: So put that.

987
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: Together with the reporting about the at least arming and

988
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: of these Kourdish factions and trying to push them to

989
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: invade and spark some sort of a local uprising, and

990
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: you can see whose plan is in control.

991
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 4: Now.

992
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what the Israelis sold Trump. I don't

993
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: know what Trump is dumb enough to believe in terms

994
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: of what could be accomplished, whether he really did buy that.

995
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: If you just take out the iatola and you know,

996
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: they're going to greet us as liberators with flowers in

997
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: the streets, and we're going to have this great democratic

998
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: Iran that's going to love the United States of America

999
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: and want to do all sorts of business deals with

1000
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: you and the Trump Tower Tehran is going to be

1001
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 2: going up any minute.

1002
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if he.

1003
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: Was actually dumb enough to believe that, But now that

1004
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: he has certainly been disabused of that notion, if he

1005
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: had that notion before, well what other plan can there

1006
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 2: possibly be other than we want to collapse this entire state.

1007
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 2: We just want chaos, We just want mayhem. The literal

1008
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: quote here is if we can have a civil war, great,

1009
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: Think of how sick that is. Think of how destabilizing.

1010
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: And you're talking about a country of ninety million people.

1011
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: Think about the blowback and spiral effects that we can't

1012
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: even contemplate at this point. I mean, we just have

1013
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: the roadmap of like a rock and what we saw

1014
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: happen there, Libyan, what we saw happen there. You know,

1015
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: it's incredibly unpredictable when you destabilize, or when your goal

1016
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: is to thoroughly destabilize a country as large and as

1017
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: diverse and as important for the global economy as Iran is.

1018
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: And yet you know that's what that's what Israel is

1019
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: aiming for. And by you know, for whatever reason, the

1020
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: US has decided to go along with that plan. So

1021
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: that is the actual plan that is in action now.

1022
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 2: And to Sager's point, there is no way this thing

1023
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 2: is going to be quick. We're not going to be

1024
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: getting out of here anytime.

1025
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: There's only one Trump would have to make, the heroic decision,

1026
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: the actual heroic decision of saying I fucked up and

1027
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: I had this is over.

1028
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: He could have only decisions.

1029
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: He could have after they assassinated the Ietola. He could

1030
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 2: have claimed that this was some glorious victory and they're

1031
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: gonna you know, they're not gonna do a nuke, and

1032
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: so we can mission accomplished.

1033
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 4: See you later. Let's just not talk about this again.

1034
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 2: And he didn't take that, you know, we didn't take

1035
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 2: that opportunity for you know, reasons that continue to remain

1036
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: somewhat shrouded in mystery.

1037
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: And let's just say now that at this point we're

1038
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 3: in it. You know. Now, Americans are dead. Now, installations,

1039
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: bases are hit. Let's put be six up.

1040
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: Here on the screens, falling right. Yeah, three fighter jets

1041
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: which have all.

1042
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 3: Been actually accidentally accidentally by the Kuwaitis.

1043
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: Apparently shows you the level of coordination.

1044
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 3: This from the New York Times, which we're showing you

1045
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: some of these images demonstrate some of the bases which

1046
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: have been hit, and you can actually see the various

1047
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: different structures, all of which have either been wiped out.

1048
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: These are very sophisticated suicide drone strikes by the Iranians,

1049
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: very targeted at radar systems and communications specifically because those

1050
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 3: are the coordinating radar from much of the interceptors and others.

1051
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: This could explain perhaps why we've seen some of the

1052
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: strikes that have already happened, Iranian strikes inside of the

1053
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 3: Gulf countries, because they rely on some of these communication

1054
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 3: infrastructures and radars to be able to be able to

1055
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: coordinate their air defense. And they say US military communication

1056
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 3: infratructure highly classified, making it difficult to determine what exact systems,

1057
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 3: but the targeted locations seem to indicate Iran was aiming

1058
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: to disrupt the ability to communicate and to coordinate. And

1059
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: I mean, look, we've already seen problems with that in Kuwait.

1060
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 3: They say Iran has attacked the military cary communications capacity

1061
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: even recently as June whenever it tried to hit Qatar.

1062
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: In multiple of these instances we saw and that kuwate

1063
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: or sorry that Qatar bass is really troubling because you

1064
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: could see a big impact that happened in one of

1065
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: those images. And just to beat the drum on our stockpiles,

1066
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 3: let's go to B seven please and put this on

1067
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: the screen. This is the clearest sign yet so far

1068
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 3: that things are not nearly as rosy as they're trying

1069
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: to paint. Defense executives are now planning to meet at

1070
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 3: the White House as strikes on Iran diminish stockpiles. So

1071
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 3: basically it's like an emergency summer. It's basically like an

1072
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,479
Speaker 3: emergency summoning to the White House where the White House

1073
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 3: is going to read them a riot Act and they're like, hey,

1074
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: you guys need to create more missiles. And they're like

1075
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 3: we can't because it's not just a process which gets

1076
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: spun up overnight. It actually takes years, which is why

1077
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: people like us have been talking about this four years.

1078
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 3: It's all out, there's public record. They have to show this, literally,

1079
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: they have to show and allocate the number missiles and

1080
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 3: interceptors and all these other things that they buy in Congress.

1081
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 3: I've gotten so much pushback, like as if you know that,

1082
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: it's not about me knowing.

1083
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: It's like they.

1084
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 3: Published the document. Literally, Congress can even tell you. That's

1085
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: because they have to report to them. It's all in files.

1086
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 3: You can go and check it for yourself if you

1087
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: want to. What we see inside this report, this summoning

1088
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 3: of these defense executives is that even if we try

1089
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: to throw the money at them, that the timeline for

1090
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: production takes years. Like you could literally try to nationalize

1091
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 3: the industry and even with that, you could not x

1092
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 3: the capacity enough to be able to fulfill already what

1093
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: we have used in this conflict. So that means that

1094
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 3: we have a couple of options you have to use.

1095
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: As you were talking about dumb bombs, it's not exactly right,

1096
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 3: but like, we have a large stackpile of these jadeams,

1097
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 3: but what we don't have are these interceptors, these Tomahawk

1098
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 3: missiles or nearly as much, and the capacity to replace

1099
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: them is extremely difficult and they're massively expensive. So that

1100
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: means while we do have stockpiles elsewhere that you have

1101
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 3: to take it from there. Well, there's already a huge

1102
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: shit storm in the military because a lot of the

1103
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 3: people who are in charge of defending the Pacific are like,

1104
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: we can't give this up because if we give it.

1105
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: Up to you.

1106
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 3: A that leaves us super super unreliable over here to

1107
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: all of our allies, Japan, South Korea, all of these

1108
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: actually massively important countries to the United States, China, Taiwan,

1109
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 3: all of these problems that we're having. I was listening

1110
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: to a Brandon Whitkirt this morning in an interview, and

1111
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 3: he was speculating that it's based on some reporting or

1112
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 3: things that he had heard, that there are Chinese and

1113
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 3: Russian intelligence that are being shared could explain why the

1114
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 3: Iranians have the ability to hit some of these things.

1115
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: What I mean, can you put it out of the question?

1116
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: The United States is basically doing all those strike packages

1117
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 3: for the Ukrainians. We're spying on the Russians and then

1118
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 3: giving the coordinates to them. Why do you think they

1119
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to?

1120
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 1: And this is great.

1121
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: They get to test all of our munitions, deplete them,

1122
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 3: see exactly how they work, and strike at our capacity.

1123
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: And what are we doing all of us for? I've

1124
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: seen all this five D chess. Oh, this is all

1125
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 3: about a message to China. This is what a joke? Nonsense, right?

1126
00:52:58,600 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 3: This is one of the best things.

1127
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 2: China that we're pathetic and allow our service members to

1128
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: be blown up in triple wide trailers.

1129
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 3: And make sup protecttionally right. And the Chinese are like, oh okay,

1130
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: They're like this is great. They're like, we could turn

1131
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 3: this into their Vietnam or their Afghanistan. Let's flood as

1132
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 3: much of this as we possibly can, make it difficult,

1133
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 3: bog them down. There's nothing they could want more. It's

1134
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: the same thing that we used to argue about in Ukraine.

1135
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 3: They argued it with some sort of deterrence. Nope, if anything,

1136
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 3: it actually depleted as.

1137
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: They already are admitting.

1138
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 3: They are literally admitting the United States military that we

1139
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 3: sent a huge number to Ukraine and we don't have

1140
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 3: the capacity to backfill some of the people in the Gulf.

1141
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 3: And of course we haven't even talked enough about the

1142
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands, if not one million plus Americans who

1143
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 3: are basically stranded all across the Middle East who have

1144
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: no way to get out. The State Department is like,

1145
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 3: is emergency trying to create an evacuation scenario now, and

1146
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 3: now they're competing though with the military for military aircraft

1147
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 3: to be able to use to get them out. There's

1148
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 3: no planned evacuation as of right now, so we have

1149
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 3: almost a week of hostilities that are happening, and people

1150
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 3: are sheltering if they want to leave. I read a

1151
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: story about some mother whare to take a bus for

1152
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: seven and a half hours and it takes six flights

1153
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 3: to be able to get back to Chicago. Can you

1154
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 3: imagine that she's a pregnant lady, She's sitting on a

1155
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 3: bunch for seven and a half hours from Israel to

1156
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: Egypt and then has to catch a flight like to

1157
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 3: nine different places before she can come back to Chicago.

1158
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: That's one person.

1159
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: She's lucky enough to be able to get out, So

1160
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 3: think about the number of people that can't, with small

1161
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: children or others.

1162
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: It's a nightmare. It's a total nightmare.

1163
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1164
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And just to go back to that that article

1165
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: about them, you know, rushing into defense execs and demanding

1166
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: that they produce more is really extraordinary because also keep

1167
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 2: in mind Trump was just posting on true social about

1168
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: how we are stockpiles are virtually unlimited. We could do

1169
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: war forever if we want. I mean, the man that

1170
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: he is just such an incredible liar. And then you

1171
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: see the panic behind the scenes of like, oh my god,

1172
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: we got to get these guys in here and hope

1173
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: that yelling at them somehow magically creates more stockpiles.

1174
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 4: It doesn't work that way.

1175
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: And somehow Trump I think he because he has faced

1176
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: so many times where he is We've said it before,

1177
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: he's like the luckiest.

1178
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 4: Man on the planet.

1179
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: So often things just the ball happens to bounce his way.

1180
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: And you know, all the critics said that Venezuela would

1181
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: be a disaster, but look, I couldnap Maduro and it

1182
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: went fine. In his view, this was no problem whatsoever.

1183
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 2: You know, all of the tariffs, they said they crashed

1184
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: the economy, well they weren't great for the economy, but

1185
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: you know, the stock market kept going up. So he

1186
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: looks at that and he was like, they were wrong.

1187
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: Everything was fine. I think he just doesn't live in

1188
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: a reality where anything matters. So when he hears these

1189
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: you know generals who came in and were like, listen,

1190
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: we have no answer for these drones, these like thirty

1191
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: to fifty thousand dollar drones that they can spin up

1192
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: like crazy and produce mass quantities of We really have

1193
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 2: no answer for that. Our stockpiles are already low. We

1194
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 2: cannot protect all of our allies in the region, like

1195
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: our golf allies are also running low on interceptors.

1196
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 4: This is a bad idea.

1197
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: He just does not take that seriously because he thinks, well,

1198
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 2: these type of experts have said I was wrong before,

1199
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: and I've always proven them wrong.

1200
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 4: I know more about this.

1201
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 2: And by the way, my friend Natania, who was telling

1202
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: me that this is all going to be great, and

1203
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: bbe here in DC all the time, talking to Trump

1204
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: on the phone, talking to other officials on the phone

1205
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 2: all the time. And when you have a when you

1206
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 2: have someone like nat Nyahu and his government with a

1207
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: really clear goal and a very clear ideology, and they

1208
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 2: know what they want, and you were working on someone

1209
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: who is as stupid and easily manipulated and without any

1210
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: sort of grounding principles as Trump. That is part of why,

1211
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: you know, from the beginning, I've thought that this was

1212
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: very that we were very likely.

1213
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 4: To end up in this place.

1214
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact that in the first term

1215
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: Trump was extremely hawkish towards Iran as well, that they

1216
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 2: in different ways tried to foment a coup and a

1217
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: regime change in Iran as well in the first term.

1218
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: That was why I was fairly confident that unfortunately we

1219
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: would at some point end up in this place, and

1220
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: here we are.

1221
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 1: It's really bad.

1222
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 3: Let's put be nine up here on the screen just

1223
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 3: to highlight some of the issue. Shoes about a broadening conflict.

1224
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: So we had actually a very troubling incident yesterday where

1225
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 3: it appeared in Iranian missile was actually fired at Turkey,

1226
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 3: so at a US base which is in the country.

1227
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: A US Navy destroyer shot down the missile.

1228
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 3: But this was one of the first times, other than

1229
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 3: the British military base which was struck in Cyprus. There

1230
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: are NATO allies which are allready being ensnare now remember

1231
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: I mean Turkey. This is a very difficult problem for them.

1232
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 3: You've got airbases of the United States in Turkey. At

1233
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: the same time, the Turks have okay relations with the Iranians.

1234
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: They apparently summoned the ambassador over this strike, and there

1235
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 3: was even some report that they may have had another one.

1236
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 3: But they're also going to be very against any sort

1237
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 3: of Kurdish uprising which is in the country. But you

1238
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 3: can see how very quickly these things can spiral out

1239
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 3: of control. Another censorship thing I want to know is

1240
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: we haven't seen video of this, but Qatar, Kuwait and

1241
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 3: others keep talking about Iranian fight which they're able to

1242
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 3: shoot down, which come very close to striking us basis.

1243
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: So that's very significant for a number of reasons that

1244
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: they still have the ability to take off.

1245
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: Let's say, you know, a couple of days.

1246
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 3: Into the conflict, you would expect they'd be one of

1247
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 3: the first things to go, and so far the air

1248
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 3: defense systems and others have all been able to hold up.

1249
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 3: But it only takes one for to create like a

1250
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 3: serious mash casualty or crazy style event. Last thing on

1251
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: here before we move on, we wanted to flag weird

1252
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 3: incident B eleven. Let's put it up here on the screen.

1253
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 3: This is from the UK media. They are saying that

1254
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 3: a drone attack on their base in Cyprus. Cyprus was

1255
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 3: hit by a shot head like drone on Sunday, but

1256
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 3: confirmed it was not launched from Iran.

1257
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: So where was he launch from.

1258
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: And they haven't been able to tell us, so serious

1259
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: questions here. Cypriot authority said that the assault executed was

1260
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: an Iranian drone, most probably deployed they think from Hezbola

1261
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 3: from Lebanese territory. But that shows that you've got drones

1262
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 3: that are not just in the country, but all so

1263
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: being able to spread out. Let's say, either in Syria

1264
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 3: via proxy has below, they could attack in Israel, they

1265
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 3: could attack other bases, other territories.

1266
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: So that's signific.

1267
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 3: I mean, what isn't cier It's hundreds of miles away

1268
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 3: from Iran just to show their own limited power projection

1269
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: and the hoo, these haven't even gotten fully involved yet.

1270
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 3: Do they hand their hands on these drones and their

1271
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: ability to try and go after the United States said

1272
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 3: they were going to escort ships in the Straits of Hormuz,

1273
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 3: that will put them much more in the launch range

1274
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: of some of these anti ship ballistic missiles and also

1275
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 3: potentially some of these drones as well.

1276
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, this drone situation, there's two possibilities. One is that

1277
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: it was hasblah and two is that it was a

1278
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: false flag from Israel, which I don't put either one

1279
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 2: amount of you know, I don't put either one out

1280
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: of the question, and both possibilities raise the raise alarms

1281
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: about the escalatory nature of what has been unleashed here

1282
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: because Iran has deployed this mosaic defense where because they

1283
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: anticipated that you know, there would be an attempt to

1284
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: decapitate the government. They really spread decision making out among

1285
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: these different military units, so their military commanders are authorized

1286
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: to sort of freelance like they have whatever is in

1287
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: their purview, and they are allowed to make decisions on

1288
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: their own independently. They don't have to wait for some

1289
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: order to come down from the top.

1290
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 4: What does that mean.

1291
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 2: It means you've got a bunch of military commanders out

1292
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 2: there who are freelancing, who you know, perhaps are firing

1293
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: missiles or using drones in ways that if you had

1294
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 2: a cohesive, like top down military structure, they may think

1295
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: better of because of the possible escalatory nature. Now I

1296
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 2: also think, I mean, based on what we're seeing from Iran,

1297
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: that they have calculated that since this is an existential threat,

1298
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: they also need to make the Gulf countries feel some

1299
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: pain and recognize that this is a problem for them

1300
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: in the hope that they will put pressure on the

1301
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: US to pull out and end this war. So I

1302
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Speaker 2: do think that is part of their strategy. And then

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01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: with regard to Israel, they have the same incentive to

1304
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: broaden and spread this conflict. They want as many countries

1305
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: engaged in this war as possible, which is why I

1306
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: don't think it's insane to float that, you know, you

1307
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: could have false whether this was one or not, that

1308
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 2: you could have false flag attacks from Israel. We talked

1309
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: earlier about that report from Tucker that you had Masad

1310
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: agents in golf countries that were caught trying to foment

1311
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Speaker 2: terrorist attacks or trying to commit terrorist attacks golf.

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Speaker 4: They're denying. Yes, there's denials all around.

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Speaker 2: But again, these are things that you cannot put out

1314
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: of bounds because that is the interest that the Israelis have.

1315
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: They want this to broaden and spread as much as

1316
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 2: pot drawing Turkey in. Absolutely, they're all for that. All

1317
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: the golf countries, they want them brought in, they want

1318
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: everybody engaged in this fight because that's what serves their interest.

1319
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: And so that's why, you know, the only country that

1320
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: maybe even theoretically has an interest in not allowing this

1321
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 2: thing to spread is US. But when you have the

1322
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: Iranians and the Israelis both wanting this to escalate and spiral,

1323
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: that is very likely what you're going to get. And

1324
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 2: of course that is already what we see, you know,

1325
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: in terms of the direction of this going, and I

1326
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 2: mean from the US too, Like we sunk this Iranian

1327
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: frigate that was over in the Indian Ocean that was

1328
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: not armed actually and we you know, shot a torpedo

1329
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 2: at it from a submarine. Pete Hexits was bragging about it.

1330
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Speaker 2: We allowed, you know, didn't go and try to rescue

1331
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: one of the sailors either, which apparently is something even

1332
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: the Nazis did during World War Two, would go and

1333
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: you know rescue some sailors after you know, after they

1334
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: they struck their boats. But in any case, so it's

1335
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 2: not like we're really trying to contain this thing and

1336
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: de escalate it either, because that was quite far from

1337
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: the main theater of action.

1338
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, that's the submarine thing is actually kind of

1339
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 3: a political problem in India.

1340
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of discussion around him.

1341
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. Well, because they had invited them there for.

1342
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 3: Some nahbor life, so there was a naval exercise in

1343
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 3: the Indian diaspora actually or sorry, in the Indian like

1344
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 3: discourse over there, they're like, Hey, are we going to

1345
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: allow this, Like we're going to invite people over here,

1346
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 3: We're going to talk to the United States. They're like, yeah,

1347
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 3: it was international waters. So we've had an escort. These

1348
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 3: people saluted our own Prime minister. You know, they're they're

1349
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 3: worried about their own threat to the prestieseers literally reading

1350
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 3: some of the Indian papers this morning. So it's look,

1351
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it's already spread, there's a cut, you know,

1352
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 3: literally insane to think about torpedoes being launched. They're saying,

1353
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 3: I think the first time since World War Two, which

1354
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 3: is insane. And yeah, I mean the level of the

1355
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 3: level of how it's already spread and impacted global gas prices,

1356
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 3: which are already ticking up. Diesel prices actually went over

1357
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 3: four dollars. I think there was some reports about California

1358
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 3: jet fuel futures.

1359
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: And others like.

1360
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 3: The level of economic damage that this could inflict in

1361
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: a matter of weeks is going to be immense, and

1362
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 3: the President and his team appear to only be waking

1363
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 3: up to that now. It's not as if they really

1364
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 3: planned for any of it, by their own admission, and

1365
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 3: that will only further extend let's say, the US military

1366
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 3: having to escort ships in the Straits of Warnews.

1367
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: So the Senate voted yesterday on this war powers resolution.

1368
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Speaker 2: We could put this up on the screen. It failed

1369
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: effectively along party lines. You had Fetterman voting with the Republicans,

1370
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: Ran Paul voting with the Democrats, and so it failed

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01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: forty seven to fifty three. And you know, I think

1372
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Speaker 2: it's I think it's noteworthy both that you had all

1373
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: the Democrats except Fetterman hang together. But more importantly, you know,

1374
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of talk and you see a

1375
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 2: lot of kind of like Magat influence or some number

1376
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: of MAGA influencers. Megan Kelly, right, obviously, Mickfuintez and Alex

1377
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: Jones are opposed to as you see some people like

1378
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: that the war room people are uncomfortable with what's going on.

1379
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: So you see a lot of like loud voices who

1380
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 2: are on the right who are opposed to this war

1381
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: with run. But if you look at the polling the

1382
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: Republican base, they're largely on board with it. You know,

1383
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 2: it is more of an online phenomenon the opposition than

1384
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: the reality among the Republican base, which just says like basically,

1385
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 2: oh Trump is doing this, so we support it. So

1386
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: I think the fact that the Republicans hung together and

1387
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: did not remember this is not even about like authorizing war.

1388
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 2: This is a vote to say, like this power Russ

1389
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: with us that even the Susan Collins of the world,

1390
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: who is very likely to get her clock clean by

1391
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 2: Graham Plattner in the Fall, even they felt like the

1392
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: right political calculus was to vote against this. Now you

1393
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: have to factor into that not only the political base

1394
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: and the fear of Trump and his ire, you also

1395
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 2: have to factor into that the money from APAC and

1396
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 2: other ideology Israel lobby types and the ideology too. As

1397
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 2: a great point too, some of these people just genuinely

1398
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 2: believe in endless war. Many of them genuinely believe in

1399
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 2: endless war. And so that's how you end up with

1400
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 2: the situation where even though you have you know, some

1401
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 2: seventy percent of the country that is like, no, we

1402
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: don't want this, you still have every Republican Senate save

1403
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 2: for Rand Paul saying we're going to let the president

1404
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: do whatever he wants.

1405
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 3: Right, And that is the scary part, you know, which

1406
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 3: I mean, just stick on that. One of the things

1407
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 3: I personally hate is people wish casting and all. So

1408
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 3: there's been like you just said, there's a lot of

1409
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 3: people that say, oh, this does to screw you to

1410
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 3: the base. And I never use those words.

1411
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: You know what I say.

1412
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 3: I say it's to screw you to the country, because

1413
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 3: the base is always going to stick with him. I

1414
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 3: grew up in Bush Country. Five thousand US troops were killed.

1415
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: They didn't care. Okay, they all stuck with him till

1416
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: the end. He's my president. I'd like to have a

1417
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: beer with him. You remember all that.

1418
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 3: They say that until nine that's what a lot of

1419
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 3: these people were saying.

1420
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: Today.

1421
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 3: They would all claim that they were all against it.

1422
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 3: Not true, I remember, But that's the reality. The base,

1423
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: they'll stick with him. Now the rest of the country,

1424
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 3: independence the fifty one percent, let's sayho voted for him,

1425
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 3: that's a whole other story. Those are the people who

1426
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 3: are much more on the fence, people who are not

1427
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 3: self identified actual Republicans, many of them. And one of

1428
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 3: the things that can explain this number is when you

1429
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: start self identifying other than as a Republican and then

1430
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 3: you disagree, it shoots the Republican number support up for

1431
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 3: the war. But let's not make any mistake that all

1432
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 3: of these people are loyal to Donald Trump and to

1433
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 3: party ideology itself. I will say in the Senate case vote.

1434
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 3: What you see with the Susan Collins and the mccowskis

1435
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 3: and all of them is I do I actually think

1436
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 3: Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski they vote against Trump all

1437
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 3: the time, all the time, right, and they've been able

1438
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 3: to survive. It's very telling to me that the one

1439
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,959
Speaker 3: thing they won't vote against him on is Iran because

1440
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 3: they support the operation line. I don't think that we

1441
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 3: can adequately describe the way that in Washington brain this

1442
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 3: is a justified operation. To the extent that it's gone bad,

1443
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 3: it's because Trump hasn't done it the process way properly.

1444
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: Didn't they didn't brief us properly. It's like that's all

1445
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: they care about.

1446
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 3: They don't care about the fact that we're in a

1447
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 3: bad conflict period, end of story. This is going to

1448
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 3: be just like two thousand and four, the War Democrats,

1449
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 3: they're already emerging and we're seeing some of this. And yes,

1450
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 3: just like two thousand and three, there are only extremely limited,

1451
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 3: extremely count on one hand, the level the type of

1452
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 3: people who will speak out either against party or against ideologies,

1453
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 3: say this is ridiculous. One of them is Congressman Thomas Massey.

1454
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 3: Here he is let's take a.

1455
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 9: Listen as to why we launched this preemptive war, and

1456
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 9: it says we had to strike first because an Iranian

1457
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 9: strike was imminent. Meanwhile, the Department of Defense conceded there

1458
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 9: was no evidence of an imminent Iranian strike. Some told

1459
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 9: us this war was about nuclear weapons, but six months

1460
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 9: ago we were assured our last strike on Iran decimated

1461
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 9: their nuclear program.

1462
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 5: So which is it?

1463
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 9: I think the most candid answer came from the Secretary

1464
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 9: of Stay, who told the press that Israel forced our

1465
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 9: hand and dragged us into this war.

1466
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 3: There is Congressman Thomas Massey. He's going to be one

1467
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 3: of the very few Republicans if at all, who end

1468
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,879
Speaker 3: up voting against it. And look, this is a valiant

1469
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 3: effort from Congressman Massey and from Rokana others Tim Kaine

1470
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 3: who forced the War Powers Act vote. But look now,

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Speaker 3: let it all be on record. It's out there now.

1472
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 3: We can hold these people at the very least county

1473
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 3: You did not even want to vote for the ability

1474
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 3: to vote.

1475
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: Whether this is something that you have an interest in. Okay,

1476
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: we got you, We hear you loud and clear.

1477
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 3: What's going to come next is this supplemental funding though,

1478
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 3: that's the big yeah.

1479
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 2: Well, and that is the purpose of these votes. I mean,

1480
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: they're not even let's imagine a world where they actually

1481
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 2: did pass. The war powers are so luge, it's not

1482
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 2: like we really think that that would constrain Trump. What

1483
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 2: this is about is putting people on the record for history,

1484
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: so that forever it is marked down in the history books,

1485
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: who did what when? Because again, you're going to have

1486
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: so many people after the fact when this thing, I mean,

1487
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 2: it's already gone bad.

1488
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 4: I don't know how anyone's supporting it.

1489
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: Already, but when it is an undeniable, complete catastrophe and

1490
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: Americans reject it overwhelmingly in a way that is again undeniable,

1491
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: you're going to have all kinds of people pretending they

1492
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: opposed it from the jump. So at least for these politicians,

1493
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: we can get them on the record. Where did you stand?

1494
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 2: What did you do at the beginning? Did you even

1495
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: have the guts to claim the power for Congress to

1496
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 2: weigh in on this thing, or did you just say, yes, sir,

1497
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: mister President, whatever mayhem and madness you want to do,

1498
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 2: go ahead and go for it. So let's go and

1499
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 2: put C three up on the screen because Tosaber's point,

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01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 2: the next battle is over funding.

1501
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 4: Now, have you heard anyone in.

1502
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 2: The media say, how will you pay for it? How

1503
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 2: will you pay for it? The roughly billion, probably more

1504
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: dollars a day that are being spent currently, the fifty

1505
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: billion dollar reported supplemental funding that they're going to ask

1506
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: Congress for. This is Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House,

1507
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 2: as Congress will pass Iran war funding when appropriate. So

1508
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 2: fifty billion dollars more? What else could that fifty billion

1509
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 2: dollars be spent on? Do you have any ideas in

1510
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: your head? Maybe healthcare, maybe housing, maybe education, maybe infrastructure,

1511
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 2: you know, maybe jobs, all kinds of things that could

1512
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 2: be done with this fifty billion dollars rather than you know,

1513
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:50,759
Speaker 2: killing little girls in Iran or risking our service members'

1514
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 2: lives in the Middle East. Seems like the American taxpayers

1515
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: probably have some better ideas of how they would like

1516
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 2: these funds to be sent spent. And yet, you know

1517
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 2: from the quote unquote opposition party to put this up

1518
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: on the screen, Politico reached out to a bunch of

1519
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 2: senators on the Democratic side to say, hey, you know,

1520
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 2: you have expressed some concerns about this war, and all

1521
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: of the Democrats save for Fetterman, have expressed those concerns,

1522
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 2: and all of them, save for Fetterman, voted for the

1523
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: War Powers resolution. What about this supplemental funding, Schumer, Before

1524
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 2: you can feel satisfied about a supplemental and I haven't

1525
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 2: seen it, you have to know what the real goals

1526
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: are and what the endgame is. You see there, he's

1527
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 2: not ruling it out. He's saying, Oh, we just need

1528
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: war information, we need a better briefing. Okay, again, process concern,

1529
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: not opposition. A Delaware Senator Chris Konz, who absolutely sucks

1530
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: all the time, a senior Democratic appropriator, says he expects

1531
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 2: a Pentagon will send Congress of supplemental funding requests and

1532
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 2: vowed to quote make sure we are making all the

1533
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 2: investments we can.

1534
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:54,799
Speaker 4: To keep US troops safe.

1535
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 2: Kuon said the Trump administration needs to testify it an

1536
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 2: open hearing so American people can get questions answered about

1537
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 2: the failures in planning and that led to the sum

1538
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: of the challenges, losses and mistakes in this war. Okay,

1539
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 2: so again, process, they need to speak to the American people.

1540
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 2: But ultimately he's going to fund it is, bottom line

1541
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 2: what he's saying there. Our friend Alyssa's Luckkin, she said,

1542
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 2: I don't rule anything out, Comma, I mean, we're in it.

1543
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: Tim Kaine also said something similar. Though he's been great

1544
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 2: on leading the push for this War Powers resolution, but

1545
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,799
Speaker 2: when it comes to funding the war that you claim

1546
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 2: to oppose, you're open to voting for the funding of

1547
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 2: the war. I mean, this makes no sense. If you

1548
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 2: oppose the war, you oppose funding the war. It is

1549
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 2: that simple. And so the amount of you know, of capitulation,

1550
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: the amount of frankly ideological support from the Democratic Party

1551
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 2: is insane. They are so disconnected from the base of

1552
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 2: the party. And so with their vote on the War

1553
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: Powers resolution, you know, the fact that they stayed lockstep

1554
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: except for John Fetterman, that is a proof of how

1555
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 2: strongly adamantly the base is opposed to this thing, and

1556
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 2: not just from a union't briefs concern, but outright directly

1557
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 2: opposed to this thing. They knew they could not vote

1558
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 2: against this war power or the resolution because there would

1559
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: be hell to pay from the base. You saw Mark

1560
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: Kelly say like, I don't know how I'm gonna vote

1561
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 2: on this thing, and I guarantee you who got slammed

1562
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: with phone calls. And next thing, you know, guess how

1563
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 2: he voted. He voted for it. So they are under

1564
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 2: tremendous pressure from the base, and yet they think they

1565
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 2: can get away with voting to fund this thing.

1566
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 4: It is absolutely insane to me.

1567
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 3: Well, you know, trip down memory lane back in seven

1568
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi. You might remember this where she tried to

1569
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 3: fund the Iraq because it was right after the two

1570
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 3: thousand and six victory for the midterms. Pelosi was negotiating

1571
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 3: funding with the Bush administration. And what she did is

1572
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:56,520
Speaker 3: she put a withdrawal timeline on the funding for the administration.

1573
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 3: But even that was something that many of the Progressive

1574
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 3: Democrats who were inside at the time, so we're saying,

1575
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 3: what they were saying is like, no, you need a

1576
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 3: much faster withdrawal time like because they didn't want to

1577
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 3: support the surge. Bush ended up vetoing it, and they

1578
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 3: did eventually win that entire funding battle, which of course

1579
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 3: kept American forces in Iraq. What they wanted to do

1580
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 3: was they wanted to fulfill their claim that they had

1581
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 3: right was basically, we ran on ending the war in Iraq.

1582
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,799
Speaker 3: And the president now wants to surge troops in Iraq,

1583
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 3: we cannot then continue to fund what we ran against.

1584
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 3: But the moderate leaders in the Democratic Party so called,

1585
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 3: like Nancy Pelosi and others who became the Speaker said no, no, no,

1586
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 3: we can't do that because we had to play ball

1587
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 3: with the Bush administration. And so what they ended up doing,

1588
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 3: actually it was kind of knifing what had happened and

1589
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 3: continuing to fund that. Not to mention what happened with

1590
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 3: Barack Obama. You're watching the exact same thing now play out.

1591
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 3: Is you can't say, especially in this case, Iraq was

1592
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 3: a whole other story, right, because we had our troops

1593
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 3: on the ground, etc. Like you know, obviously many Democrats

1594
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 3: had voted for it. In this case, if you're going

1595
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 3: to be against it, then how can you continue to

1596
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 3: fund it. It's ridiculous, right, If you're saying that the

1597
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 3: best possible thing would be to force the administration's hand

1598
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 3: by saying no, you can't have more money to continue operations.

1599
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 3: You need to figure out some sort of diplomatic solution.

1600
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 3: That is the best way to go about it. But

1601
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 3: they failed to do that under Bush. They also failed

1602
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 3: to do it multiple times under Obama. This is how

1603
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 3: the biparts and consensus keeps going. And the more that

1604
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 3: the money is flowed, that's the only thing that allows

1605
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 3: the administration to continue to operate. That's the disaster I

1606
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 3: think that we're seeing in all this. So we have

1607
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 3: no war powers. I mean, Glenn made this point. I

1608
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 3: thought it was so good. Is that when the Framers

1609
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 3: put together this idea of the Constitution, they actually theorize

1610
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 3: that the coequal branches of government would fight as hard

1611
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 3: as they possibly could for maintaining their own institutional power

1612
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 3: within the system. And they actually never could have imagined

1613
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 3: that you would have an entire branch that would just

1614
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 3: hold up its hand and surrender to what was going

1615
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 3: on in the White House. And this is a political

1616
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 3: culture now which has been normalized over the last twenty

1617
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 3: five years from Bush onward because and I want to

1618
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 3: make this the most, because they do not want to

1619
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 3: bear the political consequences of their actions, even the Democrats,

1620
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 3: like you're saying, Mark Kelly, you know all these ways,

1621
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 3: but the vote for the War Powers resolution. But the

1622
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 3: real fight is going to be on funding. The real

1623
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 3: fight is going to be on how you're actually working

1624
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 3: to make sure that this doesn't continue to happen. They're

1625
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 3: happy to take the vote to tell the base they

1626
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 3: didn't vote for it, but are you actually going to

1627
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 3: do everything to keep it away?

1628
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 1: No?

1629
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 3: And then same with many of the so called anti

1630
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 3: war Republicans. I mean, Josh Holly, some of these other guys,

1631
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 3: they all voted for this. I mean, it's ridiculous, it's

1632
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the most consequential war vote you

1633
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 3: will ever take as a member of Congress, at least

1634
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 3: so far in your entire term. And you're like, no, actually,

1635
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 3: not only does the president have the ability, we don't

1636
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 3: even have the ability to weigh in. It's ludicrous, that's

1637
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 3: all that.

1638
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only Republican voted against this was Paul And

1639
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 2: then in the House you've got Thomas Massey and we'll

1640
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 2: see if there are any others who join him whatsoever.

1641
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 4: I wanted to show this as well.

1642
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 2: This is a marine, retired marine, who protested in a

1643
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 2: congressional hearing. And let's put this up on the screen.

1644
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 1: Guys.

1645
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 2: This is C five and you can see him being

1646
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: wrestled out. That guy in the suit that is a

1647
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 2: freaking senator. Shei he and in the process of doing

1648
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 2: this and trying to remove this man who I don't

1649
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 2: know if you heard what he just said there, he

1650
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 2: said nobody wants to die for Israel. I think that's

1651
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 2: a pretty salient point. In any case, They broke this

1652
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 2: man's arm, including this senator who's for some reason gets

1653
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: involved here with the police trying to remove this retired marine.

1654
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 2: I mean, just just wild, you know, to see that

1655
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: whole scene play.

1656
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: Out, and you know, man reminds me of my childhood.

1657
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 4: That's resolutely I.

1658
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 2: Mean, a retired marine having his arm broken because he

1659
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: says nobody wants to die for Israel. Pull the country

1660
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 2: ask them, do people want to die for Israel? Is

1661
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 2: that because that's what Marco Rubio tells you is going

1662
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 2: on here. He said it plain that that's what's actually

1663
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 2: happening here. Now I think that is not the entire truth,

1664
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 2: but there's no doubt that the people who have been

1665
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 2: the most relentless and pushing for this are all of

1666
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: the most hardest core Zionists in this country, and obviously

1667
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 2: the Israeli government themselves.

1668
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: Do you remember Tim Shade? Do you remember the little

1669
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: factoid about him?

1670
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 2: Is he the one that got in the fight with

1671
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 2: that reporter.

1672
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 3: He's the one who with Megan Kelly got into that

1673
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 3: whole dispute about the circumstances in which he was shot and.

1674
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah that's the guy. Yes, that's right.

1675
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: Bizarre story Seth.

1676
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 3: Was very very strange where a National Park ranger was like,

1677
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 3: he shot himself and he claimed he got shot and anyway,

1678
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 3: there's just saying the.

1679
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 2: Bottom line he shot himself and then lied about it.

1680
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 4: Is the TLTR that

1681
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 3: Seems to be the evidence as to where things currently point.