WEBVTT - Businessweek Extra - Jane Rosenthal 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:06.480 This is Bloomberg Business Week from Bloomberg Radio. I'm Jason 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:08.960 Kelly and I'm Carol Masster. Welcome to the Bloomberg Business 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:11.440 Week Extra. It's our weekly podcast bringing you an in 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.360 depth interview you will not hear anywhere else. This week 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:18.280 a chat with Jane Rosenthal, film and television producer, co founder, 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.680 of course, of the Tribeca Film Festival. A little bit 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:24.560 of a different year this year. Yeah, it's usually kicking 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.880 off right now, and it's a big deal, and it's 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:28.880 a big festival. And of course, like most things in 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:33.120 our society, it was closed down. But that's not stopping them. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.120 That's not stopping them, Jason. They are doing things online. 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.680 And what I love about talking to Jane is that 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.960 they were by creating the Tribeca Film Festival right after 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.200 nine eleven, they know a lot about bringing a city 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.920 back from a crisis. So a really timely conversation. Absolutely, 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:49.800 so the show must go on, and that is certainly 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.080 the case for the Tribeca Film Festival, now in it's 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.440 nineteenth year, founded after nine eleven to help revive downtown 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:59.400 New York. This year, though happening virtually and online because 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.440 of the Corona the virus here with how they are 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.160 bringing the festival to fans who are sheltering in place 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.679 and also to content creators. Is Jane Rosenthal t Rebeca 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:11.040 Enterprises and Rebeca Film Festival co founder and CEO joining 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.440 us on the phone. Jane, thank you so much for 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.560 being with us. Um, we hope you are doing well 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:23.000 your family. Everybody's staying healthy, safe and sound. Everybody is healthy, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:29.160 um and safe, women and up and and sound. Everybody's 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:33.880 going a little cabin crazy at this point, but you know, 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.560 it's been a wonderful bonding experience. So thank you, and 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:44.039 I hope your families are also doing doing well. It is. 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:48.160 It is a crazy, crazy time. Yeah, it's an extraordinary time, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.360 to be sure, and we want to talk about everything 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.400 that's going on with Tribeca and some of the innovations 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.920 that that you're getting underway. But you know, I did 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.080 want to ask you if we could, just given this 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.840 crazy time and given that you are very much as 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.600 we are, at the epicenter of it, what's it like 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.880 in New York right now, New York City right now 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:12.640 for you? Well, UM, I am actually out in water 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.200 No New York on Long Island, Uh, where I've had 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:23.040 a home for twenty five years. UM My my oldest 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:27.240 daughter is in the city, and you know, worried about her, 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:34.600 worried about her daily. Um. You know this city. When 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.280 when there's no people on the streets in New York City, 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:44.799 it's just a very bad site. But uh, it's that 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.520 resiliency that New Yorkers have and we've seen it with 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:58.320 first line workers, the health workers, produced firefighters, ms, delivery workers. 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.400 New York is strong. We've gotten through so much in 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:07.560 the past. We've gotten through nine eleven. Um. Where a resilient, 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:17.200 resilient city. Um, so I look forward to working with 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:21.920 everyone and figuring out what that what the normal is 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.800 now for us. Well, you know, you're like the perfect 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.680 person to talk to because you know we were talking 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.680 about and planning for this this interview. You know, you 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:33.240 do understand bringing back a city from crisis. You know, 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.040 that's what you guys did with the Tribeca Film Festival, 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.480 and it was so many people were writing off downtown 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.800 New York. Um. Understandably, New York was damaged, um and 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.880 hurt on so many different levels after nine eleven. What 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.040 do you think you know, how do we this is 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.839 a different type of crisis. Fair to say, Um, how 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.640 do we come back? What do you what are your 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:56.240 expectations for New York where we are such a you know, 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.040 social city. You're so used to being, you know, kind 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.400 of crammed next to one another. And I think at 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.480 some level we enjoy that. I mean, I think it's 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.760 why we all are in New York, work there, live there. Um, 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:11.400 what are your expectations for how we come back? I 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:15.520 think first and foremost we all have to feel safe 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:20.280 again and safe to go out and know, uh, understand 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:26.960 what is happening in terms of testing and protocols and uh, 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.240 you know, are just the way the way we move 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.880 is going to change the way we get dressed and 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.920 putting on a mask to go outside all the time. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.640 So things are going to change without questions. So what 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.920 are the new normal procedures and practices that we're going 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:46.640 to have to adapt to? And that's one thing about 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.400 New Yorkers. We are all adaptable. You know, we will 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:54.560 turn it. It will turn into something. Um. But you know, 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:58.840 as everyone, you know, as the governor has said, okay, 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.839 it's going to be a glad you will unpause of 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:07.320 uh of our of our society, of our of our culture, 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.720 and you know, first and foremost is to be safe. 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.680 So tell us what the decision making was around the 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:21.320 film Festival, because, as you know, as far better than 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.160 the Carol ur ur I do, we're just fans and 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.000 consumers of of great movies and and films. You know, 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.360 it is both an individual but also a social experience 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.360 going to the movies. And as Carol has rightly said, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.520 tryback of Film Festival was so much part of bringing 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.680 New York back, you know, sort of bringing that zeitgeist 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.960 of New York back yet its founding. Tell us about 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.680 the decision to put select programming online, what went into it, 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:51.080 and what it looks like. So for the first what 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.360 was to go to your previous question, a little bit 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.480 part of what was what we were able to do 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.320 after nine eleven, which to gather people, to bring people 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:04.799 together in numbers and in in numbers and having audiences together. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.279 We were able to say we're still here, We're strong, 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:13.880 we're still here. What has been heartbreaking about trying to 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.520 figure out where we are right now was the fact 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.720 that we couldn't gather um and how do we how 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:26.400 do we then gather? Technology has over the past twenty 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.960 years has changed all of our lives, UH, and we 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.839 looked at what we could do first and foremost to 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:40.279 UM to support all of our of our creators that 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:46.080 had worked so hard, both UH returning filmmakers and new filmmakers. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:52.080 So we have online our Tribeca Immersions three six weeks. UH. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.960 You can go on if you have an OTOS headset, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:59.760 you can UM watch those programs available and that's available 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.480 to public. We've done a number of things that are 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:08.880 available to industry and press, UH, such as our Extra 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:14.280 net or our UM jurors have gathered together on on 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:20.520 Zoom and UH will announce those awards shortly for the 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.640 you know, so that we have jury prizes. UM. Still 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.400 we have our new online work. Again that was for industry. 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:34.360 So it was much of the Tribeca X Awards, which 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:38.520 is the best in brand content from filmmaker collaborators, UH 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:45.760 collaborators just with UH with brands, and that's also available online. UM. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:49.320 It was different. When you say how you know, how 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.520 you know, it's just it's just different. We're still we've 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.600 done a lot of things that are available to our 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.920 audience because we're very much an audience festival and basting 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:04.440 people together. We've done an initiative where every day we 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:09.760 offer a short film the day to keep anxiety away. Uh, 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:14.040 just something to pop into your in box beside the news. 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.600 Can I just say I love that. I get that 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.800 every day. And one of the things that Jason and 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:22.600 I have increasingly been talking to UM actually just talked 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.680 with the founder of Tom's yesterday about because he has 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.680 created something about, you know, helping people to stay healthy 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.800 on their own. And I think the mental health, um, 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.840 you know, wellness component of this virus of people being 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:37.800 at home, especially folks. You know, we've heard from a 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.240 lot of our colleagues who are single living in a 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.400 small apartment in New York and it's it's difficult. UM. 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.880 But that that idea of you know, keeping anxiety a way, 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.160 I think that has been a really smart move on 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:54.800 your guys part, and I think really really helpful to everybody. Well, 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.360 thank thank you, thank you for that. We hope will 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:02.640 continue to uh do those shorts as well as be 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:07.640 able to announce some other initiatives that will um bring 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:13.000 people together in a socially distanced and safe way. Uh. 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:19.760 It's um, it's look, it's challenging it's just it's challenging. 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:24.280 But and it's also I mean, when you think about 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:28.480 the movies and you think about being together, it's also 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.160 about what happens when you laugh together or cry together 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:36.920 and that communal experience. Um. We know that the d 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:41.559 g A and the other guilds are working to look 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.199 at all angles of our business so that we can 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:50.360 continue to make films and um and bring films back 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.360 to back into the world and and do that in 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:59.600 a in a safe way. Um. But look, I think 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:03.280 that technology as much as gathering together and being in 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.600 an audience. There's nothing like that being in a dark theater. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:11.560 But it's pretty amazing that we can go around the 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:15.000 world and we can watch all kinds of films online 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:21.559 and um, you know they can. You know, before COBC 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:26.880 it was they were so existing and now a c 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:32.040 will have you know, a new way to approach that. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.680 But we are lucky that we can get all kinds 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.560 of content online to make us, to make us laugh 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.040 and to bring us together, and to have social forums 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:46.839 to be able to share things together. And you know, 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:51.600 it's I also think it's going to be a very 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:59.280 creative period for people in an innovative period. Um. So 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:05.319 in in a way I look forward to that. I 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:10.040 get excited about what that can be. But doesn't mean 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:15.480 that daily life is going to be completely upbended as 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:26.880 it has been. Um really just um yeah at times. Right, Well, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.439 let's talk about that a little bit. I mean both 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.439 from the creator's perspective but also the consumer's perspective. I 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.440 mean we are, uh. I think it's safe to say 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.520 fortunate that we already were in this time where our 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:44.200 consumption patterns are changing. And Carol has heard me say 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.480 this a million times, like I am the biggest fan 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.599 in the world of going to the movies. I'll go 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.720 by myself, I'll go with friends, I'll go with family, 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.480 I'll drag somebody along with me. Uh to you know, 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.240 a revival of a movie or a new movie, whatever 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.079 it is. But we do also, to your point, and 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.880 have this amazing ability through all the streaming services to 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.599 see things that we might not ever have seen. I 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:08.880 think it's fair to say that a movie like Parasite, 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:13.079 probably without streaming and without sort of the accessibility and 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:17.079 the Internet, would not have maybe landed the way that 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.719 it did, especially in the United States. What does that 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:25.400 sort of consumption pattern mean for movies going forward, even 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.400 outside of the virus sort of how we're able to 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:32.960 get all these different movies. Uh, you know that point. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:37.720 It's actually very exciting because it's we are global cinema. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.400 It is you know, world cinema. UM, we get to 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.599 now see store or something like parasite would not have 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:52.200 reason without the knowledge of h without it was actually 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:56.720 seen that we've in theaters first and it's now online 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:02.439 for people to to see. UM. But as you know, 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:07.679 it's UM, there's no longer there's no longer quote far 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:12.320 in film. It's just global, you know, the World Cinema International. 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:18.040 So I produced the movie The Irishman UM and UH 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:24.680 that film was theatrically distributed uh in over twelve hundred 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:29.680 theaters and then um it went on Netflix. Now those 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:34.080 two could quote, those two could um could live together. 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.959 There was. They are two different experiences to be in 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:43.560 the theater uh and to watch something online, but they're 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:48.319 not mutually exclusive. UH. And you know each brings you 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.640 a different type of a different type of experience. You 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.040 see different things, uh when you're in a movie theater 0:13:56.360 --> 0:14:00.440 and with an audience versus when you're in your living 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:05.360 room and only with your your family as we have 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:11.839 all been for the past. Jane, what are the things 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.839 about counting? Well, listen, that's actually been part of I 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.240 mean joke, not joke. You know, it's like what day 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.400 is My husband even last night he's like, uh, we 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.640 is it Saturday? Like it's just crazy, like our concept 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.640 of time. Um, we've all kind of lost what day were. 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.840 And one thing I wanted to ask you is what's 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.360 the future of content? I mean, so many productions are 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:35.520 completely shut down? You know, what does that happen? You know? 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.040 Or what happens then when you have six or twelve months, 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.880 if not more, of nothing being taped, is there enough 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.680 stuff out there that's in a holding pattern or will 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.720 we see an impact of that? I think you'll see 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:52.400 some impact of that, without question. It's been how long ago, 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.080 It really depends how long agoes on. There are a 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:59.720 number of movies ready to ready to start shooting, and 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.680 I'm know there uh, you know certainly on series. Uh, 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.880 there are a number of shows, but we have to 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:10.840 do it's an industry. Um. Make sure that our crews 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.960 are our crews are safe, uh and um, and how 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.080 we do things, whether it's going on a location scout, 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:23.000 everybody jumping into a van together, or craft services. I mean, 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.400 you just think of the daily You just think of 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.160 the you know, the things that you do to prep 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:32.000 a movie. You're all in a tight spot together. Uh, 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.680 so you know, how do we social distance? How do 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:40.000 we change? Uh? How do two actors who are doing, um, 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:44.440 you know, a love scene? Do you did that change? Um? 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:46.480 You start to think of you start to think of 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.640 of of theater. Are you going to change the way 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:57.320 something is actually directed and choreographed? Can you touch you 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.760 know what does that? Does that look like? The suddenly 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:07.080 the way um somebody costumes design? Are we what kind 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.280 of masks are we wearing? In gloves? I mean you 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.440 start to you start to go into the you know 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.320 the details of it and you know what does that all? 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.440 What does that all look like? But yes, there will 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.000 be content out there. I think uh was also a 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:28.720 place for audiences to rediscover things to um and there 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:32.800 are facing so many movies that haven't gotten you know, 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:37.160 attention that can now um, you know, now be seen. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.000 So you started in the beginning. You mentioned earlier how 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.080 like all of us were getting a little cabin crazy. 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.960 So I'm curious. I owned up and I said, I 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.040 binged on Tiger King. I'm just curious what you're watching 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.680 at home? Um, what you're doing, um, as you are 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:59.400 sheltering at home. Been working a lot and keeping um, 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:07.399 keeping my teams active. I think I personally feel that 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:12.480 the more I work than I will the more the 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.440 more I work than I'll keep my sanity. When I 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:21.640 stopped working and have scientists think I kind of lose 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:26.320 it a bit. Um. But I've watched Unorthodox, which I 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:31.280 thought was terrific. I what how you're king with my daughter? 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:37.320 And you know, I'm a total um news junkie, So 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:41.960 that is um. So I guess, I guess I'm into heaven. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.720 But then it gives me anxiety. So yeah, I find 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.920 myself having to read like a you know, a Mura 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.119 Commie novel or something before I go to bed, to 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.680 at least take me to an entirely different place. I can't. 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:55.720 I can't read the news right before I go to sleep. 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:59.200 I think, and I think I'm not all that well Jane. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.400 The other things. The other thing that I've actually rediscovered 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:07.280 again is I've been reading leads the groups. So it's 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:12.680 really interesting to suddenly go back and especially as you 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:16.600 know New Yorker of Long Island, or to go back 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:23.719 and look at the eighteen uh you know, eighteen fifties, uh, 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:28.159 with Walt Whitman and what he what he was doing 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:33.359 from Brooklyn to Long Island, and um, that kind of 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:40.879 isolation has been, Um, it's been actually lovely. And that 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.119 was Jane Rosenthal, film television producer, co founder of the 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.360 Tribeca Film Festival. And as you said at the top, 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:51.240 Carol really important player in all of this, especially given 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:55.360 the history the heritage of the film festival coming out 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.760 after nine eleven. Initially, this is a city we know it, 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.840 we live here that needs some healing right now. What's 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.120 also great about her, Jason, is that man, she understands 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.160 the entertainment world producing content and with everything that's going 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.480 on streaming. I feel like it was so timely to 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.680 talk with her on so many different levels. So glad 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:13.600 we were able to catch up with her. You've been 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.080 listening to Bloomberg Business Week Extra, and be sure to 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.000 tune into Bloomberg Business Week Radio Live Monday through Friday 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.600 at two pm Wall Street Time on Bloomberg Radio. I'm 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.639 Jason Kelly and I'm Carol Masser. This is Bloomberg.