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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to What Future. I'm your host, josh

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Speaker 1: Wa Topolski, and we have got a barnstormer of an

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Speaker 1: episode today, which I'm excited about.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: You may or may not know this, but my day

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Speaker 1: job is the operation of a media brand called Sherwood Media,

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Speaker 1: which is interested in and thinking about how money moves,

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Speaker 1: how the markets function, what's going on in business and

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Speaker 1: technology and the worlds of finance and geopolitics and all

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Speaker 1: those fun things. And so I'm thinking all the time

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Speaker 1: about money and about you know, where the markets are

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Speaker 1: shifting and what it means culturally. And there's a great

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Speaker 1: podcast that I've been listening to, and there are these

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Speaker 1: two guys that do the podcast. It's called Trillionaire Mindset,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're just fantastic and we want to

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Speaker 1: have them on here to talk about business both large

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Speaker 1: and small. And I should say this is the first

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Speaker 1: time ever that What Future is having two guests at once,

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Speaker 1: so it's going to be quite a handful. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to waste any more time. Let's just get right

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Speaker 1: into this conversation. I'm just gonna say it right now.

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Speaker 1: This is not a financial advice. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you guys consider what you're doing financial advice. But I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, actually it is so everybody

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Speaker 2: can take it to the bank and if they want

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Speaker 2: to act you luck.

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Speaker 1: So what Ben says is financial advice? Emil, what do

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Speaker 1: you are you?

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Speaker 2: Also?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, doing financial advice?

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, for the record, we are joking. We absolutely really

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Speaker 2: you don't want to get a fine? Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: want be fined. We can't do that.

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Speaker 1: You guys have a podcast called Trillionaire Mindset true or false?

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Speaker 2: True?

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Speaker 3: True?

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Speaker 1: We needed a party. I don't know anything about Trillionaire Mindset.

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Speaker 1: What would you tell me? How would you describe the

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Speaker 1: podcast to me?

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Speaker 2: I would say, I got to go to the bathroom here,

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Speaker 2: let him answer it for you, and then defer to

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Speaker 2: a meal.

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Speaker 3: I'd say, you seem like a lonely guy who's uh,

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Speaker 3: could maybe use friends, and.

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Speaker 1: So you can't explain it. I got no, we can

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Speaker 1: explain it.

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Speaker 3: It's it's we're taking the piss out of all out

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Speaker 3: of you know, the entire financial and economic system. So

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Speaker 3: we're breaking down kind of any story surrounding that, and

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Speaker 3: it includes like all kinds of financial, economic political stories,

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Speaker 3: tons of current events, but we're joking about them and

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Speaker 3: explaining them and making them fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're turning heavy stuff into lighthearted topics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to make what otherwise is boring to

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Speaker 2: younger people, well an audience of all. We want to

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Speaker 2: make what's otherwise boring and uninteresting interesting and not boring.

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Speaker 1: Right Emil, are you British?

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Speaker 2: Out of curiosity?

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Speaker 1: You froming anybody in your family from England? Now what

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Speaker 1: you said take the piss which is an expression that

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Speaker 1: I really only hear British people say, and I always

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Speaker 1: British people involved.

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Speaker 3: Mindset is actually staunchly anti British. Yes, yeah, we are

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Speaker 3: on record, so as it should be. I retracted my

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Speaker 3: taking the piss out, and I would like to say

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Speaker 3: we're making fun of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more like it. That's an America, that's the

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Speaker 1: American way to say it. That's good. I like it

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Speaker 1: anti British stance. I don't have any personal grievance against

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Speaker 1: the British. In fact, they've been very good to me historically.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, it just feels like I need

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Speaker 1: to have a couple of like grudges to hold, and

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Speaker 1: I think the British seemed like an easy target.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps they're so easy to make fun of, right in

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Speaker 2: the most loving way.

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Speaker 3: Nothing against British people individually.

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Speaker 1: against them. Yeah, did you guys watch the coronation? That's

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Speaker 3: That's a huge We tried to get in and they

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Speaker 3: denied our visas.

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Speaker 1: You need a visa to go to the coronator.

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Speaker 3: I guess so I think they might have I think

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Speaker 3: they might watch our show.

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Speaker 3: We have a running joke that we're always at important

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I say, I say, I actually watched the I

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Speaker 1: watch you guys on YouTube. You have a great desk.

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Speaker 1: Where do you get a desk like that? So he

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Speaker 1: make it for you? Did you purchase it? Is that

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Speaker 1: something that like I want to know about the How

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Speaker 1: did you get the desk?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? This guy, I don't know if we've been told

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Speaker 2: all sorts of stuff about what not to talk. It's fine.

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Speaker 2: Some guy builds those sets. That's it, he's I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: Well you told you're not supposed to talk about that.

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Speaker 2: They like to keep the guy because he's built a

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Speaker 2: to keep him their own little secret, which is kind

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Speaker 1: When you say the network, what do you mean are

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Speaker 1: our network that we're under? You're okay, yeah, no, right, okay,

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Speaker 1: because it does remind me of a kind of like

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Speaker 2: Two yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is the vibe we

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had a third person at the desk?

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Speaker 2: You've had two other people at the desk? Oh? Really?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that makes sense because you've got quadrants. But

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Speaker 1: if you've got a third, I guess you. Guys said

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Speaker 3: We stick them right in the middle, Right in the middle,

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Speaker 3: we say, head on, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, for really, you put the person in the middle.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's a crazy arrangement. So you make that

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Speaker 3: No free rides at trillion our mindset.

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Speaker 1: So so trillionaire mindset is, but there's obviously a through line.

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Speaker 1: You talk about all sorts of stuff like you talk

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Speaker 1: about current events and politics. In fact, I was just

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Speaker 1: very political. Yeah, and you guys are both hardcore right wingers.

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Speaker 2: Would you say, yeah, what's the word crypto fascist?

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Speaker 2: We described oah yeah, right, okay, good neo conservatives.

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Speaker 1: But there's a through line, Like there's a money through line, right,

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Speaker 1: Like I mean you guys are like interested in money

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Speaker 1: and in the markets, and I mean there's some investing

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Speaker 1: stuff'll y'all talk about. It's like you talk about hedge

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Speaker 1: how do you end up doing a podcast which is

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Speaker 1: very funny and obviously for entertainment purposes, but it's also

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Speaker 1: like quite seriously about like stuff that is very nerdy,

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Speaker 2: Right, this has been speaking Hello. I I am a

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Speaker 2: trader and I've been a trader for I don't know

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Speaker 2: I was trading for myself for since like twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at a proper okay, And yeah, I'd always been

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Speaker 2: I've always I've always had an interest in the stuff.

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Speaker 2: And then when the game stop debacle happened. Noel Miller,

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Speaker 2: and I said, yeah, I'd love to. I've always wanted

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Speaker 3: It was one of the strangest times because it was

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Speaker 1: But but was that fun or was that like a nightmare?

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Speaker 2: Because I think it could go either way. It was.

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Speaker 3: It was incredibly fun. I wasn't leaving the house at

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Speaker 3: We would record, and then we would also just have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would be telling him about certain trades

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Speaker 2: he didn't fully understand. He'd at this point had known

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Speaker 2: very little about the markets and stuff.

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Speaker 1: And you weren't you weren't playing the market, you were.

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Speaker 2: Not in the game.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a market playboy.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, And I'd kind of break it down from him,

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Speaker 2: we months later recorded a pilot episode and it went

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was mit you said, like peak pandemic.

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Speaker 1: You said twenty twenty or later.

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Speaker 2: I said, look, you you've gotten a lot of bad

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Speaker 3: a billionaire and he's probably eighty two, and yeah, yeah,

443
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 3: our minds were like, how do you not just go away?

444
00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 3: How do you not just quit? I'm done, I'm not

445
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 3: gonna again.

446
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't have I'm not in the trillionaire mindset or

447
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,399
Speaker 1: even the billionaire mindset for that matter. But I can

448
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 1: imagine a future state where I am in that mindset.

449
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,119
Speaker 1: And my feeling is I have like a lot of

450
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 1: creative pursuits and things I'd like to do that have

451
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,159
Speaker 1: nothing to do with like working or generating more income.

452
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 1: And if I knew, if I knew that, like, I

453
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 1: can live off dividends and then some right, like, and

454
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 1: so can my family for the rest of eternity essentially,

455
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, would I continue to go into an office,

456
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, on a zoom. In Vlave's defense, he runs

457
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 1: the company and I think he really enjoys it and

458
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 1: that's like his pursuit, and I think it's wonderful. But

459
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, imagine you're a billionaire, You're an eighty two

460
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,640
Speaker 1: year old billionaire, and they're like, hey, there's a Zoom

461
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,639
Speaker 1: call today to talk about that thing. Like can you

462
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: just imagine you have to open up your laptop or

463
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 1: whatever your your I want to say, it's a think

464
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 1: pad or something, and you got to you gotta get

465
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 1: on to it. You gotta log into the zoom for

466
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 1: a conference call about something. It's like real, you know,

467
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 1: it's crazy, I mean very least delegate that all away

468
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 1: from you, like delegate everything away. I think that's a perplexing.

469
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 1: It's interesting that you guys talk about it, because I mean,

470
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 1: in particular, I think about it with like Elon is

471
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 1: a perfect avatar for this. It's like there was a

472
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going really well in his his like career,

473
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Speaker 1: in his life and.

474
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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean he completely torched his own reputation for.

475
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Speaker 1: I was just talking about somebody spit on my tesla

476
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: the other day?

477
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:53,400
Speaker 3: Is that real?

478
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 1: And uh, well, okay, now, in fairness, the guy was

479
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 1: wearing a full Jack Sparrow outfit, riding a bike in

480
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: the opposite direction alongside my car, and as he drove by,

481
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: he spit on it.

482
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: Come on my model?

483
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: Why? And I was like, that's definitely because it's a tesla,

484
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: although maybe it's because he like, I know, there's like

485
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: a Tortuga situation going on or whatever the island is called.

486
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, he could have been something else,

487
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: but no. A friend of mine was just telling me

488
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 1: that in Brooklyn people are taking their tesla that goes

489
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 1: off the car because people like fuck with yeah if

490
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 1: they're you know, and it's like that didn't have to happen.

491
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: There's no reason for that to have happened.

492
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Speaker 3: It's funny because you know, there was a ton of

493
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: valid criticisms of Elon way before he kind of took

494
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 3: this hard turn, and we talked about a lot of those,

495
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 3: but those were pretty i don't want to say fringe,

496
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 3: but like specific and unless you were really digging into

497
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 3: Elon's whole you know, business practices and views and all

498
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 3: history yeah, history then you weren't really privy to it,

499
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 3: and he was just kind of the guy who might

500
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 3: save humanity or no.

501
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 1: Right, he was like a weird avatar. You're like, oh wow,

502
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: there's this like crazy genius doing all these things.

503
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: Right.

504
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: No, the Tony Stark era was very good for him, like,

505
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: and you didn't hear a lot from him. He wasn't

506
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: really talking.

507
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: Now it's strange because like normis are just they hate him.

508
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 3: I mean I was at a yeah, I was at

509
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 3: a super Bowl party and when he came on screen,

510
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 3: they flashed him on screen and everyone booed. I was like,

511
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 3: oh my god, yeah, okay, It's.

512
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 1: Like it's like when he came out the Chappelle concert.

513
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 3: Right right, right exactly.

514
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: I forgot about that.

515
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you forgot about it, you kind of there's so

516
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: much it's almost it is Trump like in this just

517
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 1: gonna say that. Yeah, yeah, because like remember you remember

518
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: like with Trump, it was like it wasn't like one

519
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: thing a day or one thing a week. It would

520
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: be like there'd be eight completely insane situations happening every day.

521
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: They were new, you know, they were new. They were like,

522
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: oh his pants fell off during here and that was

523
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: like it at nine am, and then at like at

524
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: eleven thirty he said, like the Kukos Klan is cool whatever,

525
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: and like that went on for another twelve hours. Elon

526
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: is kind of like that now where it's like, also's

527
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: so many like the pedo guy thing, you don't even

528
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: remember the pedo.

529
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: Guy in a case to really beautiful, right, yeah, which

530
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 3: he won, by.

531
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Speaker 1: The way, he fucking beat He beat the chargers on

532
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: the pedo guy case, which is I guess impressive. But yeah,

533
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: it's like I just think, like, man, I mean, whether

534
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: he's a brilliant person or really stupid or somewhere in between.

535
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: I think probably somewhere in between. In between. I just

536
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: feel like, don't just why tweet? Yeah, like why get

537
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: on there? Like like you could do anything, I mean

538
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: literally anything. You could go anywhere, be with anybody you want.

539
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: I think you start to believe the fairy tales about yourself,

540
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: especially when you become the richest man in the world.

541
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: You then feel like, well, I have an moral obligation

542
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 2: to truly save humanity, and there are many ways in

543
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 2: which I could do that, and starting with free speech,

544
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: which is under a tech and I've got to take

545
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: over the very platform for free speech, the only one

546
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 2: that there is. And and also just to speak on

547
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: him and Carl Icon and all these people, I think

548
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,719
Speaker 2: that they just they probably lose touch with whatever it

549
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 2: was that truly made them feel alive and now this

550
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 2: business and rocking. Like Gordon Gecko, whatever his whole thing was,

551
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: like greed, greed is good? Was this thing I've suffered

552
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 2: a little bit of that. I'm a creative person myself,

553
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: and the whole reason that I got into trading was

554
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: to fund my creative ambitions. And I just kind of like.

555
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: It's a classic tale and then you end up a soul,

556
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: you end up tainted. Yeah, yeah, doing a podcast, Yeah,

557
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: you end up with a podcast about investing, but it rocks.

558
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: I do love it right well, I mean it's going

559
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: well right like you guys, are you feel like it's

560
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: things are growing like this? The podcast world is hard.

561
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean I say this as a person who's had

562
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: multiple podcasts, and like, you know, here we are on

563
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: one right now doing one. Do you feel like it's

564
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: moving in the right direction, like people are responding to it.

565
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: There's like an audience that you've you've built up.

566
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: Yes, I would say the most interesting thing. And it's

567
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: kind of like what we were expecting to get later

568
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 2: on we got first, which is that we got people

569
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: first who aren't interested in this subject matter. Right. The

570
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: way it worked was TMG gave us the opportunity to

571
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 2: tap into the audience that they had already built and

572
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: cultivated for themselves just as a straight comedy podcast. So

573
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: for all intents and purposes, these people should not have

574
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 2: necessarily been interested in what we were selling, but they were.

575
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 2: And the number one thing that people collectively would say is, Wow,

576
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: I didn't give a shit about this stuff. You guys

577
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: make it entertaining.

578
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a magic trick that is really valuable.

579
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: Like I think if you can make stuff that's really

580
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: complex and seems impenetrable, like understandable, but also if you

581
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: can make it funny or fun like, that's a huge

582
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: that's a huge deal. And not that many people can

583
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: do it, Like, I think it's a pretty rare talent.

584
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: So, yeah, you're talking about you know, how we feel

585
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 3: and you know the audience and all that stuff. We

586
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: just did our first live show in New York and

587
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: it was that was just huge. I mean, because we've

588
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: been doing this thing. It's basically it's just like this,

589
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: except you know, we're on our set and we're doing

590
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: it to we're doing it to nobody basically, and right like.

591
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: Well there's somebody there, right, there's somebody behind it.

592
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: But you know, we're going, is this even funny? Are we?

593
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 3: And then to do it in front of a crowd

594
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 3: and then you know, they all hung out after and

595
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 3: wanted to talk to us, and it was like, oh

596
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 3: my god, this is so great. It's not just some

597
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: guy behind a screen going like ha haha, or sometimes

598
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: like heat you, I can't believe you said that or whatever.

599
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: No, live sh it's the best. I mean, that's amazing,

600
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: absolute best. Where did you guys do it? Bellhouse?

601
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: We're actually going to the Bellhouse soon because.

602
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: There's a lot of a lot of live shit.

603
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: We did a caveat because we we we had no

604
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 3: idea if we could even sell tickets or not.

605
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: We just how big? How big is?

606
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 3: It was a one hundred and fifty people that one.

607
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 2: Oh okay, ok, it's pretty it was uh.

608
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 3: We we put the link up and I remember I

609
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 3: was about to get in the show, and so we

610
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 3: threw the link up and then when I got out

611
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: of the shower, Benet texted me and said they were

612
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 3: all gone.

613
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, no doubt. I mean I would have.

614
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: I would have definitely. I mean, if not that you

615
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: would need to come and ask me for advice. But

616
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: if you'd be like, hey, it's one hundred and fifty

617
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: percent venue, I'd be like, you definitely can get more

618
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: people than that.

619
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we just had. Yeah, so we're going

620
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: to do the Bellhouse this summer, and.

621
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: Uh, that's exciting. I got to come. I gotta come

622
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: and check it out.

623
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: We love that.

624
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love live. I think live is great actually,

625
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean one of the things. I mean, at some

626
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: point we'll probably do hopefully do some some roadshow with this.

627
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 1: But like, because I used to DJ and playing bands

628
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: and and there's it's pretty magical when you get like

629
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: a room full of people just vibing, like no matter

630
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: no matter what's going on, like if it's if it's

631
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: a comedy thing or if it's music or whatever, it's

632
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: like it's pretty magical. Like, and I think I love

633
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: the fact that podcasts have kind of leapt in out

634
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: of like you know this, yeah, into something that is

635
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: really visceral. I feel like in some way, especially lately

636
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: it's been it is a bit of a reaction to

637
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: the pandemic, right, Like everybody wants to be in physical

638
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: spaces with people now, right. I feel like not to

639
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: say that's why people come out to see you, guys,

640
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: they come out to see you because you're great. But

641
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: I do think there's a there's an excitement around the

642
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: live thing with podcasts. A new feels new to me.

643
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to do it as much as possible.

644
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: It's like, it's so fun and it just feels so

645
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: nice to be in the room with the people who

646
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 3: like just enjoy it so much. They seem to be

647
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: just so excited to like be hanging out with us

648
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: and watching us do it.

649
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you record it and then you put it in?

650
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: I ordered it.

651
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: We haven't put it out, Oh okay, probably not gonna Yeah,

652
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 3: we want them to kind of be I don't know.

653
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: Sometimes people are like, we're going on tour and you

654
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: can listen or watch to watch every single one we do, and.

655
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: Us we say cancelable things, no, no, really do yeah

656
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: horrible things really?

657
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: Andrew give me an example, I.

658
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: Mean, name a racial slur.

659
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Speaker 1: Oh, Wow, Okay, I mean even that is could we cancel?

660
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Speaker 1: I mean, do you actually feel like you cross a

661
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: boundary and a live No?

662
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: Not at all?

663
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: Really yeah, and.

664
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: It's very cool.

665
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: Definitely not, although we have to go back and listen

666
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: to be sure. No, I get it. I've I've been

667
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: in conversations with people, I mean, even on this show,

668
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, am I saying something right now? That's

669
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: going to really sound wrong when I listen back to.

670
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: Of course, we have the power of editing. Well.

671
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: I think that's another thing. Even sometimes when you're saying

672
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: the most benign things, you kind of find out later

673
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: that some commenter is like, I can't believe you would

674
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 3: say that, you're implying blah blah, and you're like, ill, no,

675
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: I'm not.

676
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: That's really Yeah, you've gotten a lot Have you gotten

677
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: a lot of any feedback like that? People were like,

678
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: you crossed the line? No, not a lot, and it's

679
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: happened here and there. Yeah, And I think that's the

680
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: weird thing.

681
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes we'll respond and we'll go like, oh, we did

682
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: not mean that at all, Like I think you're missing

683
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: and people like just back, They're like, oh, I don't

684
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: you know I'm sorry, Like it's a very weird no.

685
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: No, responding to critics is actually substantially impactful. I've found

686
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: I actually many many years ago. Actually, do you guys

687
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: know a journalist named Walt Mossberg. He is a technology journalist.

688
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: He's been around forever. He's retired now. But I was

689
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: like giving him shit on Twitter about something. This is

690
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: many years ago, Like this is like a decade or

691
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago or something. And he called me on

692
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: the phone. He did not tweet back at me. He

693
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: did not email me. He called me, and I was like,

694
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: holy shit, this is like an amazing power move. And

695
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: I have since done it. I've adopted the practice like

696
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: in a sphere where you could get their phone number

697
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: and call them. It's an if you ever get an opportunity,

698
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: I really recommend it. Where you somebody's like being a

699
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: shithead to you or something, don't email them, don't tweet

700
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: at them, call them on the phone and be like, hey,

701
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about the stuff you

702
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: were saying. And I've done it a couple of times,

703
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you, everybody's me. They're like, oh,

704
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I didn't mean it. The way it

705
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: came out or whatever. It's a kind of a it's

706
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: kind of special.

707
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: I like that.

708
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, but people will be reasonable if you respond

709
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: to him.

710
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. But so that's where I think the live element

711
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 3: is much nicer, where I think it feels to people like, oh,

712
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: we're all just here experiencing this. At the same time,

713
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: it's not, I don't know. There's something about online recorded

714
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: things where people watch them and they just kind of

715
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: feel like, I don't know, they want to like pick

716
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: it apart or interrogate things.

717
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: And right, well, part of it is also context collapse, right,

718
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: Like you get people will take us a bit of

719
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: something out of context, out of not part of a conversation.

720
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: You don't hear the rest of it, and you're like,

721
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: there's just that clip that plays or whatever that somebody's sharing,

722
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, well context matters, right.

723
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: So Yeah, I've had that happen with TikTok, where we've

724
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: taken clips from either our show or when we've been

725
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: guests on TMG or something like that, where it then

726
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: gets picked up on TikTok and someone's ripping me apart

727
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: in the comments or ripping someone else and it's just like, God,

728
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: you guys just fucking.

729
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's good though in a way, like I

730
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: think it's a sign that you're doing something right if

731
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: you've engendered an emotion as strong as like a hater. Yeah,

732
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: if someone is like legitimately like this guy fucking sucks,

733
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: I hate his guts, like that, you're doing something right,

734
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: You're succeeding. Maybe this is just a gag that you do,

735
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: but you analyze a bad joke that you've done, like

736
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: a joke you did not execute on the show. Is

737
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: this like a recurring thing for you that like you'll

738
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: like kind of make a attempt at kind of bad

739
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: joke or is that a bit in and of itself.

740
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: Is this like a you're legitimately critiquing your own or

741
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: trying to reframe your own bad joke or do you

742
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about.

743
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it's a little bit of both.

744
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: I feel like, a, yeah, it becomes a bit and

745
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: it also if it if the joke doesn't land, well

746
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna drive it into the ground and agree

747
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: with the unspoken word that that was terrible.

748
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you did h on the on the last episode,

749
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: the one that I was just watching, uh something about

750
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Jenny Ellen saying that something's gonna come quicker. Oh you

751
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: we thought or whatever, and and you're like, that's like

752
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: what my wife said. Then you did. Like there was

753
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: like a solid like forty five seconds of you going

754
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: over that.

755
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: Joe he tries to take it again.

756
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like.

757
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: Trying to figure out if like I'm trying to figure

758
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: out if, like you're if that was a legitimate I actually,

759
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: I mean this perhaps is your genius again, Emil, I

760
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: don't mean to focus on Ben and his great comedy.

761
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: Does the same ship? Does he because he's Oh god,

762
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: I feel like he's so much more put together on

763
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: the show. I feel like he's got a ship so

764
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: much more together.

765
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: Oh no, we're both maniacs.

766
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: No, there's actually a super cut of me screaming at

767
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: the editor cut that, and because they never cut it,

768
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: they go.

769
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: Like you legitimately upset.

770
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: No, No, it's a like if I up. I'm like,

771
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: oh please fucking cut that.

772
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, that's good. People want to see that.

773
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: Realize it is the parasocial relationship is the thing? Is

774
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: the is the one point one jigawatts of podcast fucking uh.

775
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: You get where I'm going with that.

776
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you're going to travel to the to

777
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: the past, the future of this future you have. Yeah,

778
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: you have to go backwards to go forward with Yeah,

779
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: that's what they say, at least based on the film,

780
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: based on the sequence of the film. That's my understanding.

781
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: That is true.

782
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me ask you this. So, so you're

783
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: a trader band again, Emil. Sorry, I apologize, but this

784
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: guy's so interesting. I find him so fast. I mean, like,

785
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: you know what am I going to say? You know,

786
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about law. We're gonna talk about you doing

787
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: like pro bono work for people down in their lockdown.

788
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: Any questions you got for him? Shoot him Adam.

789
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you said you mentioned earlier. I'm just curious.

790
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: It was in the back of my mind you were like,

791
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: I made a ton of money and then I lost

792
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: a ton of money. Yeah, when you say you made

793
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: a ton of money, what are we talking about, because

794
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: obviously scales are all scales right different, But like, you

795
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: give me a range, and then I'd like to know

796
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: how you made it and how you lost it?

797
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: Sure, so real fast. I will plug our very first episode,

798
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: Episode one, called get rich or die crying. Okay, I

799
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: lay it all out as as kind of our primer

800
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: primer or whatever for the audience.

801
00:34:53,880 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: Primers is not so I would like technically speaking, do yeah.

802
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: But anytime someone says that in the future, okay, yeah,

803
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: fucking edit that. But we won't. Let's see, I'll just

804
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: cut right through it. My dad died when I was

805
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: twenty three, and when he died, I got his third

806
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: of a you know, substantial inheritance of like two hundred

807
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: grand because then my grandmother subsequently passed a few years later.

808
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, it's you know.

809
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: The story is not fun so far, just so you know,

810
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: it's just kind of a downer. So I'm hoping it

811
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: gets it.

812
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 2: Gets it gets uh, it gets better. But up until

813
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: that point, I had been trading and working, and funny,

814
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: all my money would go into my trading account and

815
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: then into the ether because I would lose.

816
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: You were invested in ethereum.

817
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: No I wish. I remember being told about ethereum at

818
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: three bucks and I was like, that's oh my god, stupid. Yeah.

819
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 3: No.

820
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: The worst is when you've had some bitcoin when it

821
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: was worth five cents.

822
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: I remember when it first debuted, and I was like,

823
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: this is fucking stupid, and it just this will.

824
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: Ever be anything. Now we could have been fucking millk

825
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: I know, just by doing nothing.

826
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: It drives me. You're so stupid. But so I had

827
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: been trading at that point for close to ten years.

828
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: Did you go to school for that or was this

829
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: like a self taught thing?

830
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 2: No, I studied. I studied philosophy in college. Total waste.

831
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: And okay, well that's kind of a way to get

832
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: to yeah a little bit, I find critical thing. Yeah,

833
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: but you're good at math, I said.

834
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: Oh, fucking terrible. I'm so bad.

835
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so God kind of a gut thing as well.

836
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: Sure, that's how I thought. I'm like, I'm I could

837
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: do this. I'm smart enough. God damn it, I can

838
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: handle it. And I was I would find myself making trades.

839
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: But then because of the small account size that I had,

840
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: I couldn't hold on for long enough. I couldn't endure

841
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: the losses that you have to endure if you want

842
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: to be a trader, because you need Part of it

843
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: is losing. In fact, most of it is losing.

844
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: It's just that's I feel like the really successful guys

845
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: don't do as much losing as you're described.

846
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: They do, but successful traders lose all the time. It's

847
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: about it's about cutting the losses early and about knowing

848
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: how to let the winners ride. But so I just

849
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: took cut to it.

850
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: This is not financial no, no, just chime in with that.

851
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: I keep going. But I ended up at there was

852
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: one year where I made like one hundred grand or something,

853
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: and then the very next year I made a little

854
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: over one point two or one point three million dollars.

855
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: So that's huge fucking money, which when you're twenty eight

856
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 2: or however, all.

857
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: That was crazy. Any any age that's like over a

858
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: million dollars making over a million dollars investing is like

859
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: a very good You've done a great job.

860
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: At the peak, my account size had gone from two

861
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: hundred k to like two million.

862
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity, what were your big drivers there?

863
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: I just want to know.

864
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: I caught a lot of the marijuana stocks, oh okay,

865
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: and when they really really had a big, big rally.

866
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: But among that were some options trades that I that

867
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: I did okay at. But so when I go on

868
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 2: to say I lost a bunch immediately after making that money,

869
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 2: I learned about how much I would have to pay

870
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: in taxes. You hadn't factored that, man, I mean I did,

871
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: but I didn't think that it would be almost half

872
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: of that money just immediately vanquished. Gone.

873
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but still, I mean sucks. Have you heard of

874
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: decentralized currency, because there's a really you know, you could

875
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: just float out.

876
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should have done that.

877
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: Cryptocurrency is very hot. Tax corn tax is very easy

878
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: to avoid. It made would have been nice. You gotta

879
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: stay liquid, you gotta stay right, you got it. You

880
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: can't really okay, but anyhow, so you so you find

881
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: you get your tax Yeah.

882
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: I had it. I had like a panic attack cause

883
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: I felt like, Okay, I've made more money in just

884
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: a couple of years than my dad made in his

885
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: entire life. And in my brain, the next thing, the

886
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: next logical step was to die like he did. So

887
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 2: I was like obsessed with death for this couple months,

888
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 2: and I'm smoking weed and getting heart palpitations. And then

889
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: uh yeah, I paid my taxes. And then I ended

890
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 2: up overstaying my welcome in an investment that I really

891
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 2: believed in, but mainly believed in because some guy who

892
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: I thought was way smarter than me, believed in more.

893
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just I probably lost a guy you

894
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: knew or a person you just like looked at or

895
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: watched on. The guy I knew, okay, who had tipped

896
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: me off to one of the big stocks that was

897
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: the bulk of my profits, and he was like, I'm

898
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: putting all my profits into this other thing.

899
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, he can't be fucking wrong.

900
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: He's a he's a genius, and he's way smarter than me.

901
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

902
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: Right, All that's to say, I overstayed my welcome and

903
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 2: I lost like a little over half a million dollars

904
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: on that other things. So I was like, oh, that's cool.

905
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: I mean I had other things going for me that

906
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: that did, okay, that kind of offset that. But so yeah,

907
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: I went from my friends. It was very hard because

908
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 2: a lot of my friends were like, what do you

909
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: you go to a million dollars? I'm like, no, I

910
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: fucking don't anymore?

911
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: Right I did?

912
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: I did?

913
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: Did you show me your tax.

914
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: I would tell him, I'm like, hey, I look at this.

915
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: Look what the governments they took all this. Did you

916
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: feel like you were becoming radicalized by the way when

917
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: you saw the tax bill. Did you still to think

918
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: about how you needed to like hide your money from

919
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: the government you didn't want to pay taxes?

920
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: Yes and no. I definitely was like, this is fucked up.

921
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: I just got this money. Do you have to take

922
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: it right now? Can I just can I just do

923
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: something else with it first? Like really in my accountant.

924
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: Like reinvested in a sure thing thing, yeah, double or

925
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: nothing on a sure back.

926
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: But put it on roulette like the FedEx guy did.

927
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: So you cashed out of stuff then, I mean you didn't.

928
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: You didn't stay in the money like you were. You

929
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: took the you took it out. Yeah, well that was

930
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: your mistake right there. You gotta stay in the market.

931
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta migrate that to a nice slow

932
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: and steady.

933
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 2: I should have done that. That that might have been smart.

934
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: I should have brought I should have bought Nvidia. I

935
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: should have bought Tesla. I should have Ugh.

936
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the most dangerous thing is that it's possible

937
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: to have success when you don't really fully understand what

938
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: you're doing. And then once you're up and you've got options,

939
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: that's when like it becomes very complicated, Like you can

940
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: make a lot of really like, I actually, I mean

941
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: this is in any way comparable. But I had a

942
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: couple of a couple couple of things I bought that

943
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: just on I actually like the businesses, some solar stuff

944
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: that I was like, I like what these guys are doing.

945
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna buy. I'm just gonna buy a little bit.

946
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: And it did amazingly well over like during like in

947
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: the mid mid pandemic was doing amazingly. I know, everything

948
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: was doing amazingly well, but this was like outperforming everything,

949
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: and I was like, things are going so well, my

950
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: gut is seems so great. I'm just gonna go I'm

951
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna bet bet big on this, like actually cannabis related

952
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical business. They're like, we're gonna do We're gonna come

953
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: up with like gene just cannabis gene therapy or something.

954
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, this sounds good.

955
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: I like this.

956
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,479
Speaker 1: I'm liking the feel of that. Just absolute huge waste

957
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: of money went to almost to zero at this point,

958
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: complete like never coming back, like penny fucking stock and

959
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: my probably my largest amount of money I spent on

960
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: a single on a single ticker. So you know, you

961
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: can't wait them all, you can't win them all. But

962
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: I was like, that's like small potatoes because I believe.

963
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't believe in my ability to gamble at all,

964
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: like you do? You gamble in Vegas?

965
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: Do either of you?

966
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: Are you either of you gamblers?

967
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 2: Never?

968
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: No, No, you don't go. You don't hit the you

969
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: don't hit the blackjack table.

970
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: I've done it before, but it's not like a I'm

971
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: never like, oh I want to go gamble.

972
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, same Emil. Are you investing like now? I mean,

973
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: because you're obviously like in this you're in this conversation,

974
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: the ongoing TRILLIONAI mindset conversation. Have you become more of

975
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: a so Ben?

976
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: What Ben does is trading. I don't trade it all,

977
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: but I have I buy like index fund.

978
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: You're like long term like retirement stuff. Yeah, you're like

979
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: a normal person.

980
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: The smartest thing.

981
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: There's no like huge return like sudden dip situation.

982
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that's so stressful.

983
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: That's not well. This is why you guys balance each

984
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: other out so well, because you got this the impulsive

985
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: gambler over here, junkie junkie, right, gambler junkie is willing

986
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: to risk it all.

987
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: You know, you a gambler me.

988
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I don't. I don't.

989
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: I've never learned to play poker. I'm still not sure

990
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: how poker's played at all. Like I couldn't tell you

991
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: the first thing about how the game is played. Nobody

992
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: really knows, no, but people play it for sure. People

993
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: love poker. People are and I'm like, I don't know,

994
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: Like whatever this is, it's impenetrable to me. And I

995
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: can play, I can do very complex things, like I

996
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: can build a computer, but like I couldnt tell you

997
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: how to fucking what a poker game does. No, I'm

998
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: not I'm not even remotely enticed by gambling. And I

999
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: could gamble, like it's not like I don't have some money, right,

1000
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: Like it would be very easier for me to go

1001
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,959
Speaker 1: like fuck it, I'm gonna like take like ten grand

1002
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna go fucking hit the table that's blackjack.

1003
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: Said, don't know you had it like that? That's sick.

1004
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: I know a guy. I know a guy, an old

1005
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: coworker of mine who could count cards or basically count cards.

1006
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: He could get close enough that he could go to

1007
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: a blackjack table and win a lot.

1008
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: Wow.

1009
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, Michael, here's like five hundred dollars

1010
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: go play this. For me, I was like, I'm not

1011
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: going to fucking play, but I'll but happily watch you

1012
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: spend my money. And you know, it's like, I don't know,

1013
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: we ended up a little bit up, but like that's

1014
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 1: that's as far as I'll go, Like, I will delegate

1015
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: my gambling to a person who knows better than I do, because.

1016
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: I have friends who like to gamble, and I think

1017
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: seeing them, it's so unappealing when you're when you're around

1018
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: people who really like it, it just feels so gross

1019
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 3: and weird.

1020
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1021
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 3: I remember we were in Atlantic City. We were there

1022
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: for the weekend.

1023
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: No matter what you're doing there, yeah, already, already it's

1024
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: a dark it's a dark vibe.

1025
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: And I remember, so we had a house that was

1026
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: it was nice because we were by the beach, but

1027
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: and we were away from all the kind of heart

1028
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 3: of the darkness. And the first day our friend comes

1029
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: back and he said he was down like eighteen hundred bucks,

1030
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: and I was like, damn. And then the next night

1031
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: he comes back and he's like, let's go out. I'm

1032
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 3: up nine hundred bucks and I said, holy shit, you won.

1033
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: What's eighteen hundred plus nine twenty seven hundred.

1034
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1035
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: I said, oh, wow, you won twenty seven hundred bucks

1036
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: and he was like, no, I won nine hundred. I

1037
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: was like, wait, but you're still down, Like, dude, don't

1038
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 3: be such a like oh, don't be such a spoil

1039
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, all right, I didn't.

1040
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: Well, that's the that's the that is the that is

1041
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: not the trillion there mine mind set.

1042
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: That is resets every every day.

1043
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: Does That's the thing. But that's isn't that the trick

1044
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: of it?

1045
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: Right?

1046
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: Like you go, well, sure I lost some money, but

1047
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, out of sight, out of mind, right, let

1048
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: me go hit the get some more of the chips

1049
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: or whatever they give you. It's chips, right, Yeah.

1050
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: So watching people actually do it, I was like, I'm

1051
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: not built for this.

1052
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: Let's do predictions real quick, and then at a later

1053
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: date we can come back and check your predictions. All right,

1054
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: let's let's see. Okay, you give me some predictions on

1055
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: what is going to be the most overhyped topic of

1056
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: the year in the world of business, the most overhyped,

1057
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: most overhyped trend.

1058
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: I feel like I think a little bit of AIRR

1059
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: is going to come out of the AI stuff. I mean,

1060
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: so a lot of people are comparing it to cryptos,

1061
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: and I think there is a lot of comparisons there. Right,

1062
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: A lot of the money that's coming out of crypto

1063
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: is going into like every business being like, oh my god,

1064
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: we got to find the next big AI scheme whatever.

1065
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: It's being implemented into all these businesses and everyone's like,

1066
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: and now we're powered by GPT four.

1067
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1068
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 3: And I do think it's different in it's different from

1069
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: crypto in the sense that like there is a use

1070
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: case for it. There's you know, there's there's utility in

1071
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: the way that crypto took you know, ten years to

1072
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: start and they still don't have one.

1073
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: But well, you can generate value if you do it right, right.

1074
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: Right, But it was just purely a speculative asset that

1075
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: there was no real right. But so I don't think

1076
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 3: it's going to go away, but I think it might

1077
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: die down a little bit.

1078
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: That's a good call. I agree.

1079
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 1: I think I will jump in and say, like, we'll

1080
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: come back and revisit this prediction. But I think AI

1081
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: will prove to be the most overhyped whoa new thing.

1082
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: I just think it's this year's it is this year's

1083
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: metaverse or whatever. Like crypto is a good I mean,

1084
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: but that's like two I feel like two years ago.

1085
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: I want to say, like mid pandemic was the was

1086
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: the NFT boom that sort of was like married up

1087
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: to the crypto sort of the real crypto moment maybe

1088
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: presaged a bit by the crypto moment, like NFTs were

1089
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: certainly like occupied an entire year of bullshit, right yeah.

1090
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: But the but the real difference feels like there there

1091
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: are use cases here, right. For example, when Duo Lingo

1092
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 3: is talking about implementing their chat butt where you're now

1093
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: you know, talking to someone where you can.

1094
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of the thing just making up fake words.

1095
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: That's the kind of shit that it.

1096
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: Does, right, yeah, right, right, that's the problem. But if

1097
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: it can get to a place where they can actually

1098
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: do these things and and the if the promise is real,

1099
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 3: then you're like, okay, that's kind of you know, there's

1100
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: a real use there.

1101
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: There's a real sure No, I agree, I agree. AI

1102
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: is definitely a more interesting technology, and I think has

1103
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: u the prospect of it turning into something real as

1104
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: much higher. But there's no killer app yet. There's like

1105
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: cool tricks, right right, like and cool tricks don't make

1106
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: like don't make a business.

1107
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, I mean, I do think it

1108
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 3: is putting some people out of business. For example, I

1109
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: think art generation is a real oh yeah thorn in

1110
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: the side of any kind of graphic.

1111
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: Do oh no, it's fuck eddy images.

1112
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I actually uh made It's funny because I

1113
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: was time of making music, but I've been doing it

1114
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: like as a hobby now and I just I was,

1115
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'm putting out a new song on a

1116
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: new track, and I was like, I need I need

1117
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: art for this, like just for fun, and I use

1118
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: mid Journey and it produced like fucking very cool results

1119
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: for the thing that I wanted. And it's like, yeah,

1120
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: I know it definitely one percent. Like that's the place

1121
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: where there's real I mean, it's an edge thing in

1122
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: the sense that not everybody's an artist, right, there's not

1123
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: like the there are a lot of people who work

1124
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: in that field and design and art that are going

1125
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: to get screwed by it. But it's not like, wow,

1126
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: it's replacing you know, the factory workers who build cars.

1127
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: Like it's not exactly the same, right, I mean, though

1128
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: it presumably can as well. Once we get into a

1129
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: terminator body, I assume, right, that's the book. Well, that's

1130
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: like the guy from Google's like, once they put this

1131
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: in a in a terminator body, we're all screwed. It's like, no,

1132
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: don't do that. Then I guess, like, don't put it.

1133
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: Kidding, don't put.

1134
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: Also, they got to be the first. But also like

1135
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: you could turn the fucking robot off. People are acting

1136
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: like I hear people talk about the future of AI

1137
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: like destroying humanity. It's like, you know, like we don't

1138
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: have the good robots right, Like they're not really that great.

1139
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: Like the Boston Dynamics dog can only jump around for

1140
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 1: like ten minutes before it needs a fucking charge.

1141
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: They're getting pretty good.

1142
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: They're getting good. They're getting good, but like they're not

1143
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: gonna kill you, Like you can like put them in

1144
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: water and then they stop functioning.

1145
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: I welcome it, honestly. Let the Bosting Dynamics dog kill

1146
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: me already.

1147
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: Let it fuck my wife.

1148
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 1: Dude, Wow, are you even fucking married? No, you made

1149
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: an ex wife joke and now you're making a wife joke.

1150
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: But I liked it. That's you're saying.

1151
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: That's great. We love to do that. We we both

1152
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: we we love joking about our non existent wives.

1153
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: Neither one of you were married. You're both single. Ye single,

1154
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: you're out there.

1155
00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: In our minds.

1156
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 2: Were married, but I am single and thirty five.

1157
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,479
Speaker 1: Wow, you're looking for love?

1158
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: Can you describe it?

1159
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: Can you describe your perfect partner? Let's hear who you're

1160
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: looking for, what kind of person you're looking for? Maybe

1161
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: we can make this happen.

1162
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: Let's see, she's got four legsic body.

1163
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 3: Made in a facility in Boss.

1164
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: I know, I know, just.

1165
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,959
Speaker 2: Boston Dynamics dog. But with a great rack.

1166
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: They can do that. They can do that for sure,

1167
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: that's one they can do, no problem. Like a Boston

1168
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: Dynamics dog with great tits is definitely a thing that

1169
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 1: can happen.

1170
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 3: So my other prediction, my other prediction is that Ben

1171
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 3: will be married to a Boston Dynamics dog.

1172
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: But Bus, I feel like you just use it. I

1173
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: feel like you're just using recent data on that. All right,

1174
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: we need at least one more good prediction. I'll let

1175
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,479
Speaker 1: me think of, let me think of. Oh, oh, here's

1176
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: a good one.

1177
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 2: Oh, let's hear it.

1178
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: Will Elon must be the owner of Twitter and or

1179
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: will Twitter be in business by the end of twenty

1180
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: twenty three.

1181
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: I think he will still be the owner. I think

1182
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: that to mask a bad Tesla corder, I predict that

1183
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 2: he will probably announce someone is stepping in to take

1184
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: over as a CEO of Twitter, which will satisfy the

1185
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: market enough to further booie Tesla's stock price, because I

1186
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 2: think Tesla's scene has its best days behind it in

1187
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: terms of the stock price.

1188
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: Yet what about the what about the actual product?

1189
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 2: Uh? When I drove a Tesla years ago, I fucking

1190
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: loved it. I was like, this is how driving is

1191
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: meant to be. And I'm really pissed off that I

1192
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: didn't buy the stock back then, even though at the

1193
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: time it was valued at like eighty billion dollars and

1194
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: I thought, well, it's it's all priced in at this point.

1195
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: I missed it. But I think that the competition is

1196
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 2: has caught up, and I think the damage that he

1197
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: has done alone to the to the brand value is irreparable.

1198
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: I think people who have wanted a Tesla, or thought

1199
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: about getting a Tesla, or even own a Tesla don't

1200
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 2: want to be associated with I don't know how you

1201
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: feel like I'll tell you what.

1202
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: I've least two don't like it because I feel like

1203
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: I want to upgrade every time every few years. I'm

1204
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: not going to get another Tesla, like I won't buy

1205
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: another Tesla or well no, I know, like like there's

1206
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: a ton of great shit out there. I mean, yeah,

1207
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: but that's the but it is like I mean, Ben

1208
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: as you were saying, right, it's the one two punch.

1209
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: It's like the brand has been kind of tarnished and

1210
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: there's great competitors in the market now, so it's like

1211
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: what's the edge.

1212
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Because he was untouchable for so long, he

1213
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: could continue to make lofty promises that the market chose

1214
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: willingly to look past or just blindly believe. And I

1215
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: think his douchebaggery is starting to really have an impact

1216
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 2: on the things and the promises that he makes, and

1217
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 2: people are starting to not just blindly swallow the bullshit anymore. Yeah.

1218
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: I gotta say, though, I will say one thing about

1219
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: about why I don't want another Tesla. I mean, yes,

1220
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: like his all of his stuff definitely colors it, like,

1221
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: but they're legitimately some dumb fucking things about the car

1222
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: that drive me that are so minuscule and yet so preventable,

1223
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: so avoidable, and drive me insane. Like, for instance, this

1224
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: is the one that probably bothers me the most. You know,

1225
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: when you flip down, you know the visor you can

1226
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: flip down in a car. Yeah, you know how they

1227
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: attach those little things, You kind of push them up

1228
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: into they're like a little like half circle and you

1229
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: to hold them in place. Yeah, on the Tesla there's

1230
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: no half circle. You don't push them into place there.

1231
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: It's a magnet that holds them on into place. And

1232
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: you know what, every fucking time I go to a

1233
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: just advisor, it detaches from its base and slides forward

1234
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: and I have to reattach it to the magnet because

1235
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't hold as good as the little fucking piece

1236
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: of plastic that every other car has. And I'm like,

1237
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: this was something that you didn't need to touch it

1238
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: all you need to go here. Everything was fine. This

1239
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: is not an innovation. Like, why it's fucking annoying.

1240
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 3: My big beef with it is that they put a

1241
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 3: lot of things in those cars that then other car

1242
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 3: companies started to be like, well, this is what people want.

1243
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 3: And one we complain about often is that now every

1244
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: car thinks that every car company thinks that people what

1245
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 3: they want is a huge fucking screen in the middle

1246
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 3: of the car that has every you know control. Yeah,

1247
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 3: and I just saw an article that I guess companies

1248
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 3: are rolling that back. They're like, Oh, people do not

1249
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 3: fucking like when you have to swipe through pages to

1250
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 3: find the climate set it.

1251
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: It's crazy. No, it's great. I have to I have

1252
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: to go into a menu to open the glove box.

1253
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: Literally literally, that's all it's not. That's not an exaggeration.

1254
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: There's literally like a I have to open a menu

1255
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: and then there's a little symbol and it's like you

1256
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: hit glove box and you open it. You can also

1257
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: put a pass code on it, by the way, if

1258
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: you've got your gun in there or whatever, which I

1259
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: assume you know most people.

1260
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 2: Josh, you'll like this. That reminds me of when right

1261
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 2: before the iPod first came out. I was a big

1262
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 2: mini disc guy. I fucking I'm a big I'm a fan.

1263
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: I get it, and I just I would rave about

1264
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: it to my friends. But then when they would ask

1265
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: me how it worked. As it was coming out of

1266
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: my mouth, I knew that it sounded so impractical. It's like,

1267
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: oh yeah, no, they're like, can you buy mini discs

1268
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 2: with the music on it? I'm like, like some maybe

1269
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: a dozen artists on it. But here's the cool thing.

1270
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 2: You hook it up to your CD player and you

1271
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: press play on the CD player and record on the

1272
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: on the mini disc player and it it you know,

1273
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: it migrates it over now, but it records it in

1274
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 2: real time. It doesn't even like upload in a few

1275
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 2: minutes now.

1276
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you're listen, you're you are right, And yet

1277
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: there is something just innately cool about the mini discs,

1278
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: Like it's like the one of the most cyber of

1279
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: all products ever made.

1280
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: It was fucking awesome.

1281
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: It's like the matrix. It's like a matrix object and

1282
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: it actually there are many discs in the matrix. In fact,

1283
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: I think the software that Neo is given is on

1284
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: mini discs. Yeah, which because because the Waikowski is new.

1285
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: That's fucking cyberpunk and that's how you do it. Okay,

1286
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: one more quick thing and then we got we gotta

1287
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: wrap up because we now it's like fucking two hours

1288
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 1: of this nonsense. Apple VR heads, have you heard this rumor? Yes,

1289
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: here's my take on this. This is never going to happen. Like,

1290
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: it's not They're not going to release this product. Give

1291
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: me your take. That's my my prediction for this year

1292
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: is this will be an infinitely delayed product that never

1293
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: sees the light of day.

1294
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 3: I mean, isn't it already? Hasn't it been? Like it's

1295
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: like every year they're like, oh, we're doing.

1296
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: It well, and yeah, it's like the car. Remember when

1297
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: every talking about the car was going to happen, or

1298
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: the TV. There was a it was talking about they're

1299
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: going to make a TV. Yeah, there's just products. I

1300
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: think they're real inside of Apple. But then somebody goes like,

1301
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: that's not it.

1302
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: This isn't gonna work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not gonna go to sell a bunch of this.

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00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: I just think anything you gotta put on your face

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00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: is fucking da Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that the only way that it could work

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00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 2: is if there were no there was nothing covering your

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00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: eyes and it was more of an ar experience.

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00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like you used to have to wear something

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Speaker 1: on your head, you just think about it.

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Speaker 2: Do you wear glasses? I used to up until December

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00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: and I got LACEI.

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00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: Why'd you oh, because why'd you stop wearing glasses? Glasses

1314
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: are cool because I just I want I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to wear glasses.

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00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: It was impulsive. I'd been wearing him for like a decade.

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00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: Is there some reason you didn't want to have them

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00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: on your face? Is that what I'm UNDERSTANDE. I just

1319
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I mean I gotta change it. You

1320
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: think you'll wear the Apple a R Thing?

1321
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 2: Nah? No, it probably wouldn't be me.

1322
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: What do you think would you wear the Apple a

1323
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: R Thing?

1324
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 2: No?

1325
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: I mean I've tried. I've tried uh VR stuff. I

1326
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 3: don't want anything on my head.

1327
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: You doesn't want to get bullied by high school Nobody

1328
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 2: wants That's right.

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00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: Nobody wants anything on their heads. So unless it's fucking invisible, Yeah,

1330
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: Like I would do an eye like a contact that

1331
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: is like AR that might be cool. I go for that.

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00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: They're not releasing that they don't have that they have

1333
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: they have like a visor like Jordie LaForge and fucking

1334
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: Star Trek the next Generation something like that. All right, great,

1335
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: that's not really nothings been a real prediction about that.

1336
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: I guess I'm making a prediction that it'll be infinitely

1337
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: delayed and never release. But uh, anything you want to

1338
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: tell the audience about trillionaire mindset, oh ship, or anything

1339
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: else for that matter.

1340
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: We didn't prepare for this.

1341
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: Oh really a lot of second Yeah, go ahead.

1342
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm been fuck they already know.

1343
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 3: Uh you you should go subscribe to our show on

1344
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 3: you too. You should also go find it on whatever

1345
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 3: audio thing you listen to podcasts on rate us and

1346
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 3: listen to us.

1347
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 2: Truly, if you just google trillion in our mindset or

1348
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: put punch it into Apple Music or Spotify or whatever,

1349
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: you'll find it and you'll listen to it, and we

1350
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: think you'll really really enjoy it.

1351
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: You're the only trillion in our mindset, right, There's not

1352
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: another one.

1353
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. We get a lot of like, oh, I'm not

1354
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: really interested in that kind of thing. But you guys

1355
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: seem fun. I swear the show is still fun, and

1356
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: you might you know, are you.

1357
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: Telling yourself out of the audience. I feel like the

1358
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: show is fun. I've just seen it and it's enjoyable. Yeah.

1359
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we get we get people who are are

1360
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: maybe afraid of the subject matter sometimes, but we often

1361
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 3: say give us a chance, and when people do, they go, wow,

1362
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: this is very fun.

1363
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: No, I think it's good. I think it is a

1364
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: lot of fun. And I think you guys are like,

1365
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: you know enough to be dangerous, but you don't know

1366
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: so much that you're so sure of yourself that it's

1367
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: like a Joe Rogan experience or whatever.

1368
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: Like that's exactly know what we want. I think.

1369
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think you could get to a

1370
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan experience level in terms of your power. But

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00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: I think what's what's interesting about listening to what I

1372
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: what I have enjoyed from what I have heard and seen, Well,

1373
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: one is the desk is great. That's number one. If

1374
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna it's a great It's just a great, wonderful desk.

1375
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: Got nice colors, nice shape. It's really really actually kind

1376
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: of looks like those one of those Bow's wave radios.

1377
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: Do you remember the ones that were kind of tall?

1378
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1379
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, designed it was designed with that in mind.

1380
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: It has kind of a shape of a Bo's wave radio.

1381
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: But no, I think what's good about the show is

1382
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: that you guys are not you're not taking yourselves too seriously,

1383
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: and you're making things that are often like a real

1384
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: down are like pretty pretty accessible. And I think that's

1385
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: a huge that's a huge asset and like the fact

1386
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: is like you're not, like you don't have an ego

1387
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: about it. I think that's great. There's a lot of

1388
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: people in the world, in the world of investing, like

1389
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: who'd want to talk about like where money's moving that

1390
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: have like a huge ego about it, And I think,

1391
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: like it's actually very refreshing to listen to people who

1392
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: are like.

1393
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so those guys are kind of like our I

1394
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 3: guess issues sometimes where I think we get lumped in

1395
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 3: with them. When people hear about the show, they go, oh,

1396
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 3: finance bros. Pass and it's like.

1397
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: No, no, no, a glance. I mean, look at you.

1398
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: I mean I understand, Like right, they see you, they

1399
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: see the still frame, they see trillionaire mindset. You got

1400
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: a couple of bros.

1401
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: We thought that the name itself indicate that we're being ironic.

1402
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, in that world people are like, yeah, I could

1403
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: do a trillion I can get there.

1404
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 3: It's our fault for picking an ironic title. Yeah, exact,

1405
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 3: it's good.

1406
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: I think it's real. I thought I think the titles great,

1407
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: and I think that the right people will read it,

1408
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: thank you the way you want them to read it.

1409
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: And the people who'd read it the other way are

1410
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: stupid and suck and you don't have to worry about them.

1411
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: All right.

1412
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: Any other closing thoughts before we before we go into

1413
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: that grade to beyond, just that this was very lovely

1414
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you having well, I feel that it

1415
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: was lovely as well. I really enjoyed this conversation. You

1416
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 1: guys are super fun duo. You have a lot to say.

1417
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: You've said a couple of things that are cancellable, but

1418
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: I think you know you can weather the storm and

1419
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we gotta do it again. We got

1420
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: to come back and we got to see if any

1421
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: of these predictions are We'd love that. Yeah.

1422
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 3: Maybe if we're in the same location, we can all

1423
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 3: do it irl.

1424
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you guys are in La right, Yeah, that's

1425
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: where all the That's what it all happens. Yeah, it's

1426
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: all happened anyhow.

1427
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: This is great.

1428
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for doing it, and we'll do

1429
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: it again.

1430
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: Great, Thank you for having.

1431
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: Us, Josh, Well, look that is our show. I think

1432
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, I think you know where I've had it

1433
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: with this. That is our show for this week. Because

1434
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: it was it was a big one. We covered a

1435
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: lot of ground. We left no stone unturned. We got

1436
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: the full reveal I would say spoiler alert. We said

1437
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: it all and so we've got to wrap up. But

1438
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: we will be back next week with more what future

1439
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: and as always, I wish you and your family the

1440
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: very best