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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants Huddle Podcast, brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 1: the official bank of the New York Football Giants. My

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Speaker 1: name is Madelin Burke, alongside Howard Cross for a rapid reaction.

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Speaker 1: On the third and final preseason game of this twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three season, the Giants took on the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: The Jets come away with a win thirty two to

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Speaker 1: twenty four in a game that saw Aaron Rodgers making

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Speaker 1: his debut as the Jets quarterback, as well as newly

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Speaker 1: acquired Isaiah Simmons making his.

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Speaker 3: Debut for the New York Jets. Howard, what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: You know, I thought that Rogers in the first series

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Speaker 4: looked a little rattle wink Martindale's defense. They played zero

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Speaker 4: coverage for the first few first plays of that series.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't get anything going. Then after that he comes

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Speaker 4: back out and has a couple of nice plays, throw

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Speaker 4: the touchdown, so you know, you know, fifty to fifty

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Speaker 4: I guess you would say for his for his.

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Speaker 1: Debut, I gotta I gotta let people behind the curtain too.

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Speaker 3: This is such a rapid reaction.

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Speaker 1: We are literally in the tunnel right outside, right off

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Speaker 1: the field, so we're you know, people are passing by

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Speaker 1: and people are coming through. But yeah, so you say

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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty is your immediate assessment.

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Speaker 2: My media assessment.

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Speaker 4: I think Isaiah Summons though, getting here what Thursday, coming

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Speaker 4: in on Thursday, already affecting the play coach asking what

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Speaker 4: did he like to do? So, you know, I think

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Speaker 4: of Arizona, he played some safety, he played drop linebacker,

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Speaker 4: and they let him rush a little bit. He says, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I like the rush. Coach, let's let's let him rush.

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Speaker 4: And you can see they can look a shot out

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Speaker 4: of a cannon coming off the edge. So great addition

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Speaker 4: for the Giants. Wink Martindell must be so happy right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got a lot of pressure I think five pressures

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Speaker 1: over there on the quarterback for Isaiah Simmons in the

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Speaker 1: in the young early stages. I'm sure he'll continue to

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Speaker 1: grow and be incorporated into this team as he gets

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Speaker 1: some practice reps under his belt, because, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: he's only been in the New Jersey area for a

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Speaker 1: couple of days. But looking at what we saw from

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Speaker 1: this giant side too, Obviously Tyrod Taylor got the start,

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Speaker 1: only played a couple series, and then it was Tommy DeVito.

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Speaker 1: A lot of guys trying to make an imprint, trying

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Speaker 1: to make a roster. Onebody who had a great game, though,

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Speaker 1: David Sills.

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Speaker 4: You know, David Sills didn't more than just a great game.

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Speaker 4: You know, when we think about receivers, we think about

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Speaker 4: them catching the ball. David Sills had some great plays,

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Speaker 4: great catches all over the field, how to touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Catch late in the game.

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Speaker 4: In the running game, he was a key point of

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Speaker 4: blocking to spring the first second touchdown of the night.

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Speaker 2: So he was big in that part of the game.

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Speaker 4: The thing that's probably gonna show even more that he

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Speaker 4: in the return game, doubling a gunner on punt team,

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Speaker 4: picking up guys on the kickoff return team. So that's great.

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Speaker 4: But the thing that stood out to me most is

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Speaker 4: how many reps he played. He played a ton of reps.

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Speaker 4: They needed them to play a ton of reps. He

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Speaker 4: on special teams. So that right there is a guy

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Speaker 4: if he doesn't make this one.

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Speaker 5: You're ready for a change comes early with citizens, So

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Speaker 5: go to that retreat. Knew you moves to the country.

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Speaker 5: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are

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Speaker 5: you ready for all that life brings?

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Speaker 1: Speaking of special teams, obviously special teams how you make

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Speaker 3: They were trying a few guys in that spot.

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Speaker 4: Well, you try a lot of guys because you don't

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Speaker 4: really know. You can't have one returner. There's a lot

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Speaker 4: want to risk a guy as your returner. Last year,

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Speaker 4: if they can get you one first down, this makes

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One of the guys that we've seen doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of the returning this preseason, Eric Gray, the rookie running back.

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Speaker 3: We didn't see him back there today.

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Speaker 1: But we did see him getting a lot of play

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Speaker 1: to expand his role in this preseason. What are your

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be the returner.

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Speaker 4: I think you know what he's shown a lot, you

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Speaker 4: he is. So you know, he's not got that explosive

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Speaker 4: Somebody might catch him. But you know, thirty yards here,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's interesting too. You do point that

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Speaker 3: A phone booth is.

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Speaker 1: For those of you who don't, we can rebrand the

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's small.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, that's nasty.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to conceptualize the size, which is tiny.

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Speaker 3: But yes, it is a great way to describe the guy.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: But in talking about the run game, we remiss not

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Speaker 1: and we saw Matt Perrot, who's gotten a lot of

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll start with the guard. I think is Zulu,

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Speaker 4: I think Brediman and Lewiskey. I think those guys kind

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Speaker 4: I expect I'm hoping that there will be some rotation

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Speaker 4: They can play and be dependabull from from the first

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Speaker 2: As far as.

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Speaker 4: I want Matt Part to make the team. But I

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Speaker 4: know in the run game, he looks dominant, he looks big,

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Speaker 2: And you're to kind of depend on.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that head coach Brian Dable

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Speaker 4: Now, yes, no, I think that it can be beneficial

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Speaker 2: People start to follow it.

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Speaker 4: I think it gives them spells them so it makes

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Speaker 5: You love turf, You're good at it, so you start

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Speaker 5: a turf bus, business grows, your savings grow, become the

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Speaker 2: All that life brings?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Also very important.

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Speaker 1: Now when we talk about guys you can count on,

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Speaker 1: the rosters are gonna be Roster cuts are coming in

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Speaker 1: just a couple of days. We're about a little over

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Speaker 1: two weeks away from the first game of the season.

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Speaker 1: The Giant's taken on the Cowboy September tenth on Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football. But first, of course, Tuesday, August twenty ninth

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Speaker 1: is cut down day when the roster will go from

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Speaker 1: ninety to fifty three. You know, you think that one

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Speaker 1: first cut is the big cut, but of course after that,

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Speaker 1: and there will be more transactions and more people added

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Speaker 3: What is how would you describe what this process is

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Speaker 2: I mean, we have a very smart group of guys.

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Speaker 4: And it's just with Joe Shane and his whole crew

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Speaker 4: the personnel department. They are scouring the countryside looking for players.

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Speaker 4: And when I think about what could happen, I think about,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be a tricky next couple of days.

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Speaker 4: So it's a lot of things, and they push guys

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and this group will be ready for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I do believe that the way that Joe Shane in

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Speaker 4: That's why that was your last audition. Yeah, so that's

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Speaker 4: hopefully you put it out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Leave it all on the field, quite literally.

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