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Speaker 3: You know, my heart might explode between now and the

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Speaker 3: end of the show. You don't sleep anymore, Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 3: I have slept, I'm not kidding in the last three days,

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Speaker 3: So I actually did take like a two minute nap

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Speaker 2: You know, the world is on fire, So why don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't plan on doing anything serious today except

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Speaker 3: The microphone if you're willing today, all right, I'm usually

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Speaker 2: No, they have ass sensors that would know.

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Speaker 2: Imagine if Tom Dukane walk and come back, that must

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Speaker 3: Hey, why don't you tell them what's going on along Island, Luke.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing when we're comparing Jake to legitimate boxers,

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Speaker 2: It wasn't competitive. I'm glad Mike got paid. I thought

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Speaker 2: event in Spain and it looked like Rustlemania. Okay, maybe

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Speaker 2: it's still a thing, but the thing of us trying

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense? He's almost He's a tweener. He's

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Speaker 2: using his stardom and plucking him in. So, if he's

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Speaker 2: is Perry's fault. Luke, I don't know what he was

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Speaker 3: I didn't understand his strategy at all.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna worry. His strategy was to eat everything

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Speaker 2: Jake had and come back.

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Speaker 3: No what I mean, like in boxing, for example, if

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Speaker 3: there's all different kinds of styles in boxing, right, if

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Speaker 3: maintain that if you put Jake Paul under pressure, put

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Speaker 3: him on his heels, he has a very difficult time

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Speaker 3: dealing with it. Some fighters can deal with pressure quite well.

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Speaker 3: They actually invite it. Jake Paul's not one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: And you can see him looking down. Dude. I mentioned

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Speaker 3: Look at how often do you remember the tape study

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Speaker 3: I did years ago? He has not corrected that. He

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Speaker 3: sometimes he lands, sometimes he doesn't. But I didn't understand

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Speaker 3: if you're gonna be the guy that walks forward. You

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Speaker 2: Window to guess him out. He's he's a big dude.

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Speaker 3: But Mike was this, oh hands, Mike should have the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I shouldn't. He have tried to be dirtier too.

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Speaker 2: To be very fair, he should have been.

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Speaker 3: There were times he was doing that. But this is

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Speaker 3: what I mean, like, at a bare minimum, if i'm

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Speaker 5: A lot less than other things versus.

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Speaker 2: Versus zero head movement squaring, and just couldn't believe. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: So I don't. I don't think this was a debacle

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Speaker 2: seemingly it's not gonna work. You gotta give Jake that create.

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Speaker 2: You have to understand what you're fighting here. It's a

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Speaker 2: explosion has to be through mercilessly trying to gas him

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Speaker 3: Hold. Yes, got like, I don't know how many profighters

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. I am telling you watch the fucking

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Speaker 3: make a gazillion mistakes through the course of dealing with that,

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Speaker 3: I think we did think Mike was going to perform better,

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Speaker 3: Here is my sense of things. BC. There was a

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Speaker 5: Where at least a little bit, there.

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Speaker 3: Was escalation of danger with each subsequent opponent. So he

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Speaker 3: Uh so that was his first opponent. Then he goes

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Speaker 5: You're like, okay, athlete who had okay, but a professional

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Speaker 3: And then he goes to Ben Askron. You're like, okay,

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Speaker 2: Who stole and in the first fight, Tyrone heard him

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Speaker 3: There was danger there. Now the rematch they had to

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, well, we're like, we see not any

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Speaker 2: Give him the fight, tho. You got to give him that.

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Speaker 2: Let me just jump in because I had a cover

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Speaker 2: Jake only took those fights not because he was angling

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Speaker 3: This is my point. Now we had what happened with Perry,

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Speaker 3: you give maximum effort like you got with DZ and Masvitol,

439
00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,919
Speaker 3: or if there is some reason to believe that the

440
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,800
Speaker 3: matchmaking is more interesting than just naked sand bagging. This

441
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,320
Speaker 3: was naked sand bagging if ever there was one. And

442
00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,879
Speaker 3: then the problem is now the next fight feels like

443
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,640
Speaker 3: even more of grotesque sandbagging.

444
00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,320
Speaker 2: It's crazy, Luk.

445
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,439
Speaker 3: Here's why I just want to say a pitch you two,

446
00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,359
Speaker 3: which is I understand that if there's a market for this,

447
00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,439
Speaker 3: who gives a shit what our opinion is. But the

448
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,520
Speaker 3: thing that really offended me after Saturday was, Dude, you

449
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,919
Speaker 3: can't have it both ways. You can't ask for props.

450
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,960
Speaker 3: You can't say no one believed in me when you're

451
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 3: like a minus five point fifty favorite and you're fighting

452
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,920
Speaker 3: guys who God blessed Mike Perry. He is toughest shit

453
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,920
Speaker 3: and he has turned his life around. And I hope

454
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,720
Speaker 3: you got a huge bag, but he's fighting with basically

455
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,960
Speaker 3: no defense. Dude, you can't have it both ways. Either

456
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 3: you're sand bagging and we have a right to call

457
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,160
Speaker 3: it that, yes, or you're fucking not and right now

458
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 3: it's sandbagging.

459
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,600
Speaker 2: I think if you're gonna defend Jake, you'll just say

460
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,879
Speaker 2: this was supposed to be Tyson. They looked at the

461
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,679
Speaker 2: landscape of who was available. They caught Mike Perry at

462
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,399
Speaker 2: the right time when his brand was so huge, and

463
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 2: I think it was enough where a lot of people

464
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,919
Speaker 2: were fooled Luke when this fight got Bill. I mean

465
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 2: even we had conversations over text initially when the fight

466
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,879
Speaker 2: was announced, like, holy shit.

467
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 3: It's because Perry was on a run and he was

468
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,640
Speaker 3: thirty two. She wasn't completely over the hill.

469
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 2: Has that superpower of being able to take a lot

470
00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 2: of punishment and back you up to a point where

471
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,439
Speaker 2: where you question your own manhood and your backbone. We

472
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 2: never quite got there ultimately, but it leads us, I think,

473
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 2: to the call out for Jake of Alex Pero, right,

474
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 2: because this would be a return to that escalation. But

475
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 2: Luke and I have a lot to say about who

476
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 2: I think he really should fight and it's not Poeton.

477
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 2: We had come into this fight against Mike Perry kind

478
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 2: of questioning like, what does this mean for the Mike

479
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 2: Tyson fight? Meaning if Jake Paul loses, let's say he

480
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 2: lost the decisions, he got outworked and dropped by Perry,

481
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 2: but lost the decision, you could argue afterwards, Luke, that

482
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 2: that actually would help the Mike Tyson fight because a

483
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 2: lot of the appeal to people are the idea that

484
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,160
Speaker 2: this old hero is going to come out of retirement

485
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 2: George Foreman style but even you know, more extreme and

486
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 2: knock out the wannabe boxer who's disrupting everybody. And we wondered, Luke,

487
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 2: if this was a loss to Perry, whether this would

488
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 2: actually make that fight more exciting and enjoyable and maybe

489
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 2: level out the playing field even more. This is almost

490
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 2: would you say, this almost feels like worst case scenario

491
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 2: off now for Jake because he just fall guy that

492
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 2: the public was kind of tricked into believing was the

493
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: guy that could stand up to him, and he destroyed him,

494
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 2: largely because of those built in advantages, but also as

495
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 2: we as we broke down, because Perry didn't bring defense

496
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 2: to the table. Now I don't want to see Mike

497
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 2: Tyson at all, and I was the guy who kind

498
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 2: of came around after being initially like, oh no, Mike

499
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 2: f fifty nine No. But I do think that the

500
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: quote I told you from Nikisha Baderian of MVP Promotions

501
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 2: when he was on Aerial Show, where he said, I

502
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 2: get what you people are saying about the age, but

503
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 2: the age is what sells this fight. If the age

504
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 2: wasn't this wide, people wouldn't be into this fight. It's

505
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 2: the only way this fight can happen. But Luke, I

506
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 2: think what we just saw Jake continue to get better

507
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 2: in this bubble in the space of fighting non boxers,

508
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 2: that when you're fighting an old guy who is a

509
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 2: great boxer, you're essentially still kind of fighting a non boxer.

510
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 2: I feel like this widens our expectations even more that

511
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 2: this Tyson fight won't won't be worth it and won't

512
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 2: go in the right direction.

513
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 3: I have no hope for it now.

514
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 5: I have zero if they should end it.

515
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 2: If they should just can't.

516
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 3: Let me be clear, I had none to begin with.

517
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 3: But I was excited and I still am in a

518
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 3: different way about the prospect of Netflix being involved in

519
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 3: combat sports against the world's biggest streamer by a million miles.

520
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: That prospect alone is exciting. But I'm like, Jesus, this

521
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 3: is the initial foray, the King of sandbagging, taking on

522
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 3: a fifty eight year old guy who had to delay

523
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 3: this flight because he had fucking ulcers. What the fuck

524
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 3: are we doing? And we're fighting in the two states

525
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: that have the least amount of regulation, Florida and Texas. Again,

526
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 3: what the fuck are we.

527
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 2: Doing in that fight? Being delayed? Look, real quick is

528
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 2: the worst case scenario because it allows more time to

529
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 2: examine and look in on whether the fight should be happening.

530
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: If it was almost a short turnaround, if it was

531
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 2: almost like, oh shit, they're actually gonna do this, and

532
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 2: then they just do it, you would have watched. Now

533
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm literally asking you, I know they won't cancel it

534
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 2: because the money is so insanely large, Yes, should they? Like,

535
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 2: is this gonna be anything?

536
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: In response to the KISA, I understand that age being

537
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 3: one of those fact There's a number of factors that

538
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: make a fight work, and they kind of the puzzle

539
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 3: us to all kind of work. Yeah, but if taking

540
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 3: on a guy who is closer to collecting social security

541
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: than he is his own forty fifth birthday. It doesn't work,

542
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 3: like if you are making a calculation about age, where

543
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: you're like, well, if it wasn't for the age, it

544
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't work, right, But it also doesn't work because you're

545
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: having to like it is such a determinative factor because

546
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 3: he has reached a level of medical alarm given his age,

547
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: so that that's no response either. That's just saying, oh, well,

548
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 3: it works on paper that way, right, but in reality

549
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 3: it's it's this grotesque version of something else. I mean,

550
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 3: here's the thing, dude, Like we were kind of backing

551
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 3: on Darren Till and I don't know what kind of

552
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 3: fight he would have given, But would you rather see

553
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 3: Jake Paul versus Darren Till. I'm not saying you have

554
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: a high degree of interest in saying Jake Paul versus Darantel.

555
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: I'd almost rather see it than Tyson, And in part.

556
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 3: Almost, I would definitively rather see that.

557
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 2: Yes, And my holding onto any form of still wanting

558
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: the Tyson fight, which is getting smaller by the day,

559
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: is tied into what you're saying about Netflix's role in it,

560
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: just as much as it is just the ridiculous spectacle

561
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: and the idea of could Mike or I could he

562
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: just do that one crazy thing, which is knock down

563
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: or knock out Jake. But after watching Jake in another

564
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: fight where he had the deck stacked for him, not

565
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 2: I fear for my cause what.

566
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a while there where Jake was

567
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: kind of surprising us a little bit. I know, I

568
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: can certainly admit I think I was a little bit

569
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: surprised in a few of those matchups.

570
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 2: Fighting forty nine year old Anderson Silva at that time,

571
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: at the time he did when Silva had just upset

572
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: shot as junior perfect perfect.

573
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: So there's a little bit of there was a little

574
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 3: bit of subverting expectations. Okay, very good. But if what

575
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: we're doing is now ham fisted obvious sandbagging, because we're

576
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: just going to change the quotion on paper about what's what,

577
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: and now we're just going to bank on name value

578
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 3: versus absent any other value to the fight, it's I mean,

579
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: that's really there's there's zero value to this fight other

580
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 3: than holy shit, it's Mike Tyson, right, I don't know.

581
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: Let me ask the question this way. Australian Luke That's

582
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna call him from now. Luke Ossie rules,

583
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 3: Luke O's se rules. Luke did the fight and the

584
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 3: way it played out on Saturday make you want to

585
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: see Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson less or more less? Okay,

586
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 3: tell me why I'm with you. I think him fighting

587
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: someone like Darren Till is way better. I was never

588
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 3: into the Tyson fight to begin with. Man, he's way

589
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 3: too old. There's no interest there for me, if I'm

590
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: being honest. But just the way the heavy handed nature

591
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: of the sandbagging this weekend, it's like, dude, you have

592
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 3: to like prove something to us. I don't know is

593
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 3: quite the right word, but for this magic trick to

594
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 3: have any value solution to it, you have to kind

595
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: of up the ante a little bit.

596
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 2: Let's talk about up in the antie because I'm ready

597
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: to say this, Luke, I'm ready to stand on the

598
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: business and all that. The problem here is that Jake

599
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: is getting too good too fast. If that's a problem, right, No,

600
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: in this bubble, but not good enough in my opinion

601
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: to do what he will. Alternately tease and he did

602
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: it again, saying I'll be cruiseweight champion in two years

603
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 2: and tried to make us believe that those two early

604
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: knockouts against those bums were like the perfect escalation for

605
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: him getting in line to do that. By the way,

606
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: if he decides to do that, WBC are going to

607
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: bend over backwards to make that.

608
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: They were almost going to rank him if he had

609
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: beaten Tommy Fury. Remember that.

610
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: And it's the same WBC who won't force Canelo to

611
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: defend his title against anybody, forget Benevitas more anybody. And

612
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: yet we'll, you know, do that in other other way classes.

613
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: I like the call out of Poeton, but I want

614
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: to put Poloton over here because he's under UFC contract.

615
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: And do I really believe that Dana White's going to go.

616
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: We got to stop this Jake Paul situation. And I

617
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: got the idea co Promotion will send Pooton, He'll handle it.

618
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: It's over. No, they're not going to give Jake Paul

619
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: that pay day. Okay, they're not going to do that.

620
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: We'll get to Poton right.

621
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: So here's my shit to get off the pop for

622
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: a moment for Jake Paul, pick a lane and stick

623
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: with it. And it doesn't mean you can cargue that

624
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: in to BC. Can you do both? Can you do

625
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: the celebrity big fights and try to chase the title?

626
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: He can if he wants. But here's the deal. He's

627
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 2: a tweener right now. In my opinion, I don't think

628
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: he's good enough for legitimate fights. I think that's why

629
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 2: you're never seeing him fight a legitimate guy. And the

630
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: only borderline legitimate guy he fought Tommy Fury, younger half

631
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: brother of Tyson Fury. He lost the fight. It was

632
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: a guy who his own size, which is really we're

633
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: at the point now, Jake where you've adjusted really quick

634
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: to this boxing thing. You've done a great job. You

635
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: take it very serious. We never took that away from you.

636
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: So now you've got to up the annie. And maybe

637
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: this is bad timing now that Mike Tyson is next,

638
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 2: because I think it's just gonna make Jake look more

639
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: like a heel now that you can be marketable with

640
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: that heel. But I think he's gonna beat up Tyson bad.

641
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: But if you're going to declare where you are, either

642
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: go legitimate and let's do it. Let's line up the

643
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: opponents that you need to legitimately get a title shot.

644
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: But if that's not your true intention and you want

645
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: to keep making money and make big spectacles, I almost

646
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: say enough with the Tyson fight. Let's look in this

647
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 2: bubble and say, Okay, Jake, you're basically a heavyweight. Now,

648
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: let's be very real about that. This fight with a

649
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: two hundred pound catchwaight, because you are at heavyweight for

650
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson, You're coming down and for the most part

651
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 2: you handle the added weight well. A couple moments look

652
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: like you're gonna guess out. But there is a boss

653
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: in my opinion at the end of this video game,

654
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: it's not Poton because I don't think he's in this

655
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: video game unless UFC's one to co promote and we're

656
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: not there yet. Francis and Ganu is in this window.

657
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 7: Yes, that's exactly the use of Agathe And I remember

658
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 7: a year and a half ago on this show going, hey,

659
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 7: Jake keeps winning, man, that's really the big one, and

660
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 7: we all went, no, man, that size difference is way

661
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 7: too much.

662
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: Now Jake will get killed. But here's the deal. Francis

663
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: has already achieved what Jake hasn't come close to yet.

664
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: In what would be a huge feather in Jake's cap

665
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: when Francis lost to Tyson Fury. He went in there

666
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: against a legitimate guy in his prime who was actually

667
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: the heavyweight champion of the world at that moment, and look,

668
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: for whatever reasons, we look back on whatever, combination of

669
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: not taking Anganu seriously, with Fury being out of shape

670
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: and all that, it was a perfect storm we're on.

671
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: That night Francis and Gono nearly upset the world and

672
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: did something achievement wise by scaring the heavyweight champion and

673
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: knocking him down and really forcing him out of his

674
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: game into a defensive holding battle. The rest of the way,

675
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: Jake hasn't done anything close to that in my opinion

676
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: on terms of the legitimacy of boxing. But you're a

677
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: heavyweight now, So if you're going to be a heavyweight

678
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: and go in there and potentially mop up on Mike Tyson,

679
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: the real fight that people will really care about. Now, Look,

680
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: if you do the Tyson fight, everyone's gonna care and

681
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna make a lot of money. So maybe I'll

682
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: shut up on that, But how about after that? The

683
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: real fight for me is in ghan though, because Luke,

684
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: how you truly sell fights. You can sell a few

685
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: of them on Bad Blood. You can sell a few

686
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: of them as Jake did on Man. I just want

687
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: to see if Jake's any good, then you can sell

688
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: a few more on Man. I just want to see

689
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: if Jake gets knocked out so he can eat his words.

690
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: But we're at the point where we can no longer

691
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: sell the fights where you're gonna take on an aging

692
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: guy or you're gonna take on a much smaller guy.

693
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: For whatever people think about Jake Paul versus Coom and

694
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: Connor McGregor versus Jake Paul still might be the biggest

695
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: super Bowl in this bubble, just from cashing the most

696
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: tickets and pay per view buys. But Luke, that's a

697
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: physical mismatch. You just saw the Mike Perry version of it.

698
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: That is a physical mismatch. Francis and gan who is

699
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: not and Francis and Gano just got sent to hell

700
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: by a legitimate boxer and Anthony Joshua and all reports

701
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: is he's gonna get back on the horse and still

702
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: gonna try it. Luke, what tell me the down the

703
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: downfall here? Because if you.

704
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: Are that, you're asking too much, Because here's the reality.

705
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: He's going from Jay excuse me, He's going from Mike Perry,

706
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: a natural welter weight, to Mike Tyson, a heavyweight, but

707
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: of course a nearly sixty year old heavyweight. He would

708
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: have to have some kind of middle ground because he's

709
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: going to be giving up size with Francis and Gano,

710
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: He's going to be giving up probably pure power as well.

711
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: He's going to be giving up reach, and he's going

712
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: to be giving up height. He'd be giving up all

713
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: of those factors. You're asking too much from a guy

714
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: who is sandbagging against got people close to collecting socials.

715
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: So you think the call out of Poeton is the

716
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: beginning of cause you have to give Jake the credit

717
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: that strategically he always knows where he is in this

718
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: universe and always prepares himself. He's always got backup fights ready.

719
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: I mean Chavez Junior just one on the undercard. They

720
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: looked awful in terms of like he's always got the

721
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: next guy ready. Like let's say Mike Tyson fell apart

722
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: health wise, could you sub in Javas Junior? You probably

723
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: could last minute, but you need to be able to

724
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: challenge yourself at this We're at the point now where

725
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: we need to pay this Jake challenge himself. Look, this

726
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: is the ultimate challenge. So do you think him calling

727
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: out Poeton is building that bridge of staying bigger and

728
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: looking at saying like, look, I'm gonna fight Tyson, I'm

729
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: gonna be two twenty or whatever. Let me just stay

730
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: in this. Is that in your mind? Is that him

731
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: getting closer to in Igana foot or you just think

732
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: he wants nothing to do because I think he might

733
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: be a better boxer than Anghanu.

734
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 4: Uh.

735
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: I actually love the poton call out. I mean, if

736
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: you're me and my problem is, oh my god, this

737
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: sandbagging is fucking outrageous. Calling out Poeton is not is

738
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: the opposite of that, Like, it's the exact opposite of

739
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: that kind of a thing. And so for that reason,

740
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: I actually kind of dig it. And I've seen people

741
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: be like, oh, that's a fucking waste of time because

742
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: uf he's never gonna co promote guys. I'm gonna keep

743
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: saying it. There is zero preventing any possible deal from

744
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: happening other than executive choice. That's it. They could make

745
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: that fucking fight, assuming they wanted to tomorrow today. They could

746
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: make it. They can make that fight today if they

747
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: wanted to. I am not going to indulge corporate What

748
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: do you want to call this like industry control? Would

749
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: you say some kind of legitimate reason fights can't get made?

750
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: That's a bullshit thing to bring up. It's doesn't it.

751
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: There's nothing stopping it other than they wish to exert

752
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: control over the industry. I know, no one, not you,

753
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: not me, not the audience watching, nobody has a responsibility

754
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: to honor.

755
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: That is that the same argument that people on the

756
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: outside that are getting into boxing that love it when

757
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: they hear old boxing heads like me pre Turkey go oh,

758
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: that fight can be never be made. I know that'd

759
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: be the next fight to make. But that fight can

760
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: be never be made. Let's not talk about it. Sometimes

761
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: you'll see people go, no, boxing, shut up, because if

762
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: you do talk about it, maybe it can happen. Because

763
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: what's really stopping it. It's just people that don't want

764
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: to work together. And to that fact, suddenly Turkey's here

765
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: and there's more money than we've ever seen and guys

766
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: are working together. So this excuse, to your point, really

767
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: is just one man's opinion. And if Dana's gonna sit

768
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: here and say that MMA that you know, MMA will

769
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: always be better than boxing because boxing does all this bullshit.

770
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: Dude is doing a lot of boxing bullshit lately, and

771
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: Dana being unwilling to co promote with anyone. Is that

772
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: right there?

773
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: Right? Fair enough? Now, I've got a couple assets I

774
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: want to throw to here, we can't. Connor McGregor was watching.

775
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: Connor McGregor is a part owner of BKFC. They had

776
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: done a press conference in Spain for a card that's

777
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: going to be there under the BKFC brand. He did

778
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: not find Jake Paul's performance charming nor Mike Perry's. Here's

779
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: what he writes, Hey, Mike, you're released and you can

780
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: go and compete in your smelly, dirty boxing championship thing.

781
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: The smell of it. Good luck, You're fired, all right?

782
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: And then subs all right? I guess. Prior to that,

783
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: he had written, Jake Paul is the biggest piss bag

784
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: I have ever seen in my life. Forty pound weight difference,

785
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: juiced out of his head and still shitting himself in there. Nikisa,

786
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: you should take him to Vegas. Oh that's right. You

787
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 3: could never the Athletic Commission testing, real testing, real fighting

788
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: bitch asses, you could never and then calling out sixty

789
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: year old Mike Tyson fresh off an in flight medical emergency.

790
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 3: I swear to God, a fat can of bitch piss

791
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: most valuable piss back. I got to.

792
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 5: Say, Connor hit a ten out of ten on those twets.

793
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: Can you put that back up? Long onland Luke. I

794
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 2: wish we had the ability sometimes to make morning combat

795
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: T shirts, like the day of when I would can

796
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: we sell a shirt right now that said if that

797
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: can of bitch piss on it?

798
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: Yes you can't.

799
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 5: That's genius, Uncle COCKI if you're watching this fat.

800
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: Can of bitch piss, please thank you.

801
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 3: You see your reaction to that. I think a lot

802
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: of people were really turned off by Saturday. I really mean,

803
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: does he have the authority to fire?

804
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: No? No, Mike Perry did have a response to the

805
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: press conference.

806
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: Correct, he did. I don't have the Perry response. I

807
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: do have the Jake Paul response if you want to.

808
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: Mike Perry's response was ultimately like I'm he said, he's

809
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: part owner. Does he calling himself? He's like, Connor can't

810
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: fire me because I'm part owner? Of BKFC. I'm the

811
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: same thing as him. Mike's not right, He's just saying

812
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: that as the face of it.

813
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: I was going to reach out to the Coaba brothers.

814
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: I have not yet. Maybe I'll do that.

815
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: I mean, he dismissed it. But some of it also

816
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: is related to Mike Perry randomly launching this dirty boxing promotion,

817
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: which is supposed to be kind of a hybrid of

818
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: boxing and BKFC. Where you were you wear five on scloves,

819
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 2: there's ground upon to finish them, and you can lead

820
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: with elbows if you want. So I get that. It's

821
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: Connor from BKFC saying, hey, biggest star of BKFC, you're

822
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: if you're going that way, then why don't you just

823
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: go that way? You're fired? But he doesn't have that ability, right,

824
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 2: I mean, Steve Feldman, think when when that's.

825
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 3: Mike Perry's like one of the most viable sars.

826
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: All right, so we closed that chapter. I think what

827
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: he's saying about Jake Paul's actually fucking hilarious. First of all,

828
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: First of all, hilarious actually not wrong, like that that's

829
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 2: the collective feel of mm A in boxing Twitter right now.

830
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 2: True false.

831
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: I think so uh. Jake Paul did respond, and in

832
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: fairness we have his comments.

833
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 6: Was here.

834
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: As soon as your.

835
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 8: Fight ended, Connor McGregor said, Mike Perry was fired from

836
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 8: the BKF. He called you some some derogative term. Any

837
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 8: message for Connor McGregor.

838
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 4: That's fucked up that he fired your BKFC champion. But

839
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 4: I told you that was gonna happen. You know, I

840
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 4: told you exactly what was going to happen. He was

841
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 4: big up in his boy, Mike Para. I said, Okay, Connor, like,

842
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 4: after I fuck up.

843
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: Mike Perry, then you're next.

844
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 4: So Connor's on Twitter all the time, He's on his

845
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 4: yacht all the time, but guess where he's not in

846
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 4: the ring fighting me? So he can talk all the

847
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 4: fuck he wants.

848
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 3: But the Notorious May is.

849
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 4: Scared of Jake Joseph Paul from Disney Channel and I

850
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: put that on my mama.

851
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: Not a bad response, Actually no it is. But here's

852
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: the problem. Look, if that fight could be made tomorrow,

853
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: would they make it? Yes? Dude, He's way bigger than Connor.

854
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: I mean, can we be realistic about this, Luke? If

855
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: Jake's gonna fight, so what is when Jake was first

856
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: doing the showtime payer reviews, he was around one eighty five.

857
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: Right, I have to go back, you know what. Let

858
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: me look that up.

859
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: Let me look at so the cruiserweight limit is two

860
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: hundred and under in boxing, and I get that he's

861
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: probably more likely in the low one nineties in his

862
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: in his prime right now physically went for big fights.

863
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 2: But he's up at heavyweight right now preparing for Mike deal.

864
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: For the rematch, Woodley weighed one eighty nine point six

865
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: and then Paul was one point four.

866
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: I mean, look, dude, he's basically a heavyweight at this point. Look,

867
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: how are you going to make anymore the fights in

868
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: theory against the BMF area the lightweight welterweight mma. Guys,

869
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: I don't think you can anymore, can you? Because you're

870
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: not going to be able to sell that fight's competitive?

871
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: Could you sell it the name value alone in trash talk? Yes,

872
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: But didn't we just learn something from this Mike Perry

873
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: experience that was fun on name value in trash talk,

874
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: fight not so fun. Inevitably, there's going to be diminishing

875
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: returns at the next paper view, with the next pay

876
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: per view if it's Tyson. You suspend that for name

877
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: value again, but sooner or later he's got to fight

878
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: a guy on even terms that's not conder anymore. Tell

879
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 2: me I'm wrong, Luke.

880
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 3: I don't think you're wrong, but I think this is

881
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: a good place to start Topic two.

882
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: Okay, let's start that. Let's weave that, let's weave that in. Okay, Well, Luke,

883
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: Topic two on a scale of one to ten, looking

884
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: back on what was another crossover between MMA and boxing

885
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 2: and this extended bubble that is still has air inet

886
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: for better or worse, Just how sicker view Luke of

887
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: having to watch MMA fighters box for their biggest paydays.

888
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 3: And just a.

889
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: Reminder, you know it's not just when Kamara Usman won

890
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 2: the UFC title and called out Canelo the next day,

891
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: trigger Sean O'Malley when he wins his biggest moment, the

892
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: UFC world title, is then instantly calling for boxers. Was

893
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 2: just on the Diaz Mazwel broadcast, spent the first half

894
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: hour speaking into the microphone. I can fight these guys.

895
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: I'd love to fight these guys. I hope I get

896
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: this chance. It's not going away. That's where the money is,

897
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 2: but it's also to some level where there's where the

898
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: freedom is and the challenge is outside of the MMA space.

899
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 2: How sick of you were seeing your MMA heroes sell

900
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 2: their souls for that one paycheck in the boxing ring.

901
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: I have to tell you I have reached. Maybe I'm

902
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 3: not quite a breaking point. I don't think that's quite right,

903
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: but I'm pretty close. I'm pretty close. I'm pretty close

904
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: to it, dude. I don't want to have one of

905
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 3: these conversations where there's this black hole of gravitational pull

906
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: for the arguments that somehow pins every industry ill on

907
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: the UFC. There is a tendency to do that with

908
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: shows like this. I don't want to get into that,

909
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: ting to like dissect what the problem is here. And

910
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: I actually think it's a little more complicated now. I

911
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: actually feel like Jake Paul is popular enough now that

912
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: he is a big enough attraction that there's going to

913
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: be all kinds of MMA fighters who are going to

914
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: want to fight him in a way that some of

915
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: them might have been more dismissive of it early on.

916
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 3: In other words, he's got a level of celebrity. How

917
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: many times are you going to be able to access

918
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: an opponent with this kind of level of celebrity is

919
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: read such a height when there's almost no coming back

920
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 3: from that, right, it's that big right now? But dude,

921
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: how are we in this place? How are we in

922
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: this place if pay is different? How are we having

923
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 3: this conversation today about what's happening here? About our frustration

924
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 3: with this, about watching what's going on again? Mike Perry

925
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: has left it. He's done BKFC. He's again one of

926
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: these guys who I think is going to be a

927
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: candidate no matter what in circumstances, given where we are

928
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: and the development of Jake Paul's brand and size. At

929
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: the same time, when you watch something like this, how

930
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: does it not dawn on or remind you at a

931
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: bare minimum it's like, wait, why are we doing this again?

932
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 3: How does this whole mechanism work? The mechanism works because

933
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: there's a gap in skill that Jake Paul is able

934
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: to build over a chart over a class of athletes

935
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: who are looking for a payday that they otherwise cannot get. Well,

936
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 3: why can't they get that? I know, it seems so

937
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: ridiculous to kind of bring everything right. Jake Paul's avarice,

938
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: his greed, here is clearly a function of what's driving

939
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,479
Speaker 3: this industry as well. Right, he wants to get paid

940
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: and he wants to do it in this kind of

941
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: sandbagging way, so we can point the finger at him.

942
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: But he's an opportunist. How are we here BC, But

943
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: for the factors I've mentioned, I don't understand.

944
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're here because the pay disparity at

945
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: the highest level between the two sports. And then you

946
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: can argue, well, the guys in the one percent of

947
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: the UFC are getting very well paid. They are, but

948
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: you have to sign your life away constantly, and you're

949
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: not available to do stuff like this. I mean, what

950
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: if the antitrust lawsuit did go to trial and then

951
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: suddenly one of the fallouts of that where that fighters

952
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 2: could have clauses for once a year in their contract

953
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: to do other stuff like this, Well that would be

954
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: an issue. And really I just scratched my head at

955
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: how UFC still hasn't woke the fuck up to the

956
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: idea of forget your clicks on social media, of power slap.

957
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 2: Can we just fold that away for good and use

958
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: all of those powers and resources towards some form of

959
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: zoofa boxing which would give your own aging or retired

960
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: or board names an ability in contract to do exactly

961
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: what they want, which is to have crossover boxing fights

962
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: against other people in other areas that can be bumped

963
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: up to big events where everybody would make a lot

964
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: of money. But apparently we can't do that. But Luke,

965
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: I think you're looking at this problem rightfully, so from

966
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: a business logistics standpoint of how are we here? Why

967
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: are the top MMA guys just so willing to do this?

968
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: I want to ask more of where we're actually at

969
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: in the Jake Paul ark of what we're talking about,

970
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 2: of how he keeps getting better? Where I think there's

971
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: a solution to this, and it's very easy. It's called

972
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: even matchmaking, right Like, let's be honest, Diaz Masvidol. We

973
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: had some high limitations coming in terms of how much

974
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: we were gonna get excited about that. What would it

975
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: look like? What did it look like, though, Luke, A

976
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: fun ass competitive fight between two guys who were very motivated,

977
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: who were reportedly very well paid, although obviously that's taken

978
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: a side turn, and who had legitimate reason in their

979
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: own business plans to give the best of themselves. We

980
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: got a badass fight that I think Luke tell me

981
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, has made people be more open to

982
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: this idea. So it's like, you get one up in

983
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: that area in this crossover bubble, but then the Jake

984
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: Paul brings you back because it's another lopsided matchup where

985
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: the star fighter and Jake has way too many predetermined

986
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 2: advantages in size and age and experience and all that.

987
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: Luke isn't the gap to bridge here, to force Jake

988
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: to fight tougher opponents, or to just look at this

989
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: as there is a window for this. This bubble isn't

990
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: going to burst because people love to see people fight,

991
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: and if it's people that they really know. Can I

992
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: tune into regular boxing if I'm not a boxing fan

993
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: to guys that I don't know, or I can tune

994
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 2: in to see my favorite streamer or YouTuber or MMA

995
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: fighter crossed over? It still works if you make interesting matchups.

996
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: The one thing I will say, was it Jorge that

997
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: mosvilaal that promoted that game bred boxing card that ended

998
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: up having Pettis versus Roy Jones in the main event.

999
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: I don't love that fight because Roy Jones was old

1000
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: and it's kind of a soft version of what Jake's

1001
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: doing with Tyson. But do you remember the rest of

1002
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 2: that card. It was evenly matched current fading or former

1003
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: MMA fighters against one another. It was Jeremy Stevens against

1004
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: Jose Aldough and it was like it wasn't high level boxing.

1005
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: But no one's gonna sit here and think we're gonna

1006
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: see that. Look when you turn into the tune into

1007
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: the Big Three. If you do, you know you're not

1008
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: getting MBA level talent at that moment. These are faded

1009
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: ex players. You're getting an interesting subversion of that. But

1010
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: no one's tuning into that thinking just like you're not

1011
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: gonna tune into college basketball think you're getting MBA level

1012
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,479
Speaker 2: or college football and think you're getting officially NFL level.

1013
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: So no one's gonna tune in for that, but they

1014
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: will tune in for competitiveness in action. We can give

1015
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: in that and people can still make money. I just

1016
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: think that people are still looking at this bubble as

1017
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: it's going to burst soon. So how do I keep

1018
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: making the most money? And in a lot of ways,

1019
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: the most way to make the most money is to

1020
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: get the biggest names, and a lot of times you've

1021
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: got to fudge that difference between them to try to

1022
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 2: sell to the public if this is a viable fight,

1023
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: when in reality it's all tailored toward the A side.

1024
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: In this case, Jake is the biggest A side of

1025
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: them all. But I think you keep this bubble going

1026
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: alive if you just are a little bit smarter and

1027
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: force some people to take more chances than the mashmak.

1028
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: I will say this, I kind of want to get

1029
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: into this conversation about Poeton because that's really where I

1030
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 3: think an interesting place is headed. I mean, I'll say

1031
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: one thing in defensive Jake here, which is people are like, oh,

1032
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: it's so disingenuous to call out poetson and then you're

1033
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: end up fighting Mike Tyson. But it's not like he's

1034
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 3: been given the option to fight Poeton. It's not like

1035
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 3: he's ducking him and then going to Mike Tyson. He's

1036
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: going to what the available options are. The available options are,

1037
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: Mike Perry. The available options are at least on the

1038
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: non boxing, pure boxing side, which is a whole lot

1039
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: of the conversation. But in this lane, if you close off

1040
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: those places, you can can't accuse him of not accepting

1041
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: fights that they're not giving him access to. So that's

1042
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 3: one part of the matchmaking I think should be understood here.

1043
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: But it's actually why I like the Pereira call out.

1044
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: You see, I actually got to like this one. First

1045
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: of all, Yes, there would be an age gap, Okay,

1046
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: fair enough, but we're talking about what doesn't seem like.

1047
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: No, Poton's still in some form of a fighting prime,

1048
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 2: so there's no argument.

1049
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: There is huge, gigantic tons of experience with the big gloves,

1050
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 3: the whole nine yards, obviously kickboxing, but you know, still

1051
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: with that like that is actually a pretty intriguing.

1052
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: Could you imagine himself handling well Pooton in there, Yes

1053
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 2: you could, which is why I don't think it would

1054
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: be wrong if he did the same thing to John Jones.

1055
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: If John Jones goes out there and beat Steepe like

1056
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: we think he should, shouldn't Jake Paul get on the

1057
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: microphone and be like because those are the type of

1058
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: challenges where I think the combination of size and the experience.

1059
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: It's John Jones great with his hands, no, not on

1060
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: a level of everything else in his game, But could

1061
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: you imagine John Jones getting into a really good shape

1062
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: and them doing that you of course you'd want to

1063
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: see what it looks like, right, Sure, we're at that

1064
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: level off for Jake, so it's kind of got to

1065
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: be pooton in abolve or not in terms of the

1066
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 2: size in my opinion, unless maybe there's some middleweight banger

1067
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: that canet you know, if ddp's body size was a

1068
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: little more popular, somebody like that. But all of this

1069
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: is a moot point. If these guys don't go out

1070
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: of there, you don't get out of their UFC deals,

1071
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: or if there's not Jake and Dana get in there,

1072
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: well we ever see Jake and Dana put it together

1073
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: on a table, on a negotiation table and make it.

1074
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: Unless Turkey makes it happen, seems extremely unlikely by the way.

1075
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: Let's play the call out that we have from Jake

1076
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: Paul here, I'll see rules of Luke.

1077
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go home, prepare for that. And Alex Perera,

1078
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Speaker 2: Alex Perera, you said you want a box.

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Speaker 1: I'm the king of this. I'm the king of this.

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00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: Come over, we can make it happen. I want you,

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Speaker 2: Alex Perera, you want.

1082
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: The UFC light Heavyweight Champion. Alex Prera.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, indeed, I just beat a big AFC champion. I'll

1084
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Speaker 4: beat multiple UFC champions. And he said he wants to box,

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Speaker 4: so Alex Perera after Mike Tyson, Let's make it happen.

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Speaker 5: I gotta tell you, of all the available fights, Perry

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Speaker 5: h Tyson or Poetson, Poetson is like, obviously the one

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Speaker 5: you would want.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's what I'm like. Obviously I just kind of mentioned, like, hey, well,

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Speaker 2: Jake and Dana ever get together. But I think Jake's

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00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: a different scenario compared to others because he's been very

1092
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: villainized against Dana. He's purposely going after Dana. But didn't

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Speaker 2: Dana just support Jorge in fighting Nate?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: They seem to make a cut from it. Do you

1096
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: think that there's a soft way that UFC can get

1097
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 2: involved without needing to be the co promoter? Maybe they

1098
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: would want to if it was Jake versus Poeton with

1099
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: the UFC belt over shoulder and boxing. Maybe UFC should

1100
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Speaker 2: wake up to the idea that if they actually got

1101
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: in line and co promoted that they could make a

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00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: lot of money, or they could just release their guys

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00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: and still get a cut from it. But Luke, will

1104
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: it ever be worth it for UFC to allow that

1105
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: will go room for their fighters. No right, So is

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Speaker 2: this a point until somebody.

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Speaker 3: I don't I'm not. I can't control what UFC does

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00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: or doesn't do. I'm simply saying, from the consumer perspective,

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00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: we don't have to honor what trade craft they feel

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Speaker 3: like is in their interests to dominate market position that

1111
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: has nothing to fucking do with anything about why you

1112
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 3: watch sports. That's their concern, that's not mine for There

1113
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 3: is nothing stopping them from making this fight or any

1114
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: other one I don't have.

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00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: You are on.

1116
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it one more time. You are under

1117
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: no obligation to honor what their best corporate best practices

1118
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 3: are that for interests that have nothing and in certain

1119
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Speaker 3: cases are in direct contravention to your interests. Please miss

1120
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Speaker 3: me with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the biggest UFC fighters seem to be more excited

1122
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: about fights elsewhere than within their own organization, and I

1123
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: think it would take the fans being on that level

1124
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Speaker 2: too for any change to be made.

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Speaker 3: Poeton witness said, I'm gonna I'm piggybacking. Poeton did uh.

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Speaker 3: I won't say he responded, but he had a quick

1127
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Speaker 3: FaceTime called while was in the ring, Right, we have

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Speaker 3: video of it, let's play it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk to them.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to them.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, dude, of all the callouts, that's the only one.

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Speaker 5: I was like, okay, all right, all right. And I'm

1133
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Speaker 5: not saying I want him to win or even fight

1134
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Speaker 5: or whatever, like it doesn't It's like it's not make

1135
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Speaker 5: or break this fight, but that of anything he's doing,

1136
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Speaker 5: that's the most interesting part.

1137
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Speaker 2: He Wow, here's where I need to see UFC fighters

1138
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: and UFC managers realizing their potential value. Knowing, yes, we

1139
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: are locked into these long term deals in order to

1140
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: keep fighting for titles and making big bedays. UFC is

1141
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: going to keep extending your contract. You're gonna be stuck

1142
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: with them, but you gotta go. And I hope they are,

1143
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: but you never know. You gotta go to the table.

1144
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: Knock on Hunter and Dana's door.

1145
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Speaker 3: Right.

1146
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: Look, if your team Poeton and say, look, here you go, Dana,

1147
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Speaker 2: you got two options. Either give us the winner of

1148
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Speaker 2: John Jones and Stipe, or if John Jones's gonna retire,

1149
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Speaker 2: give us Aspenall for the heavyweight title and put it

1150
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Speaker 2: in the stadium. Let me try to become the first

1151
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Speaker 2: three division champion in UFC history, or figure out a

1152
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Speaker 2: way to get out of my way so that I

1153
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: can go make this crazy hey day against Jake Paul

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Speaker 2: in a fight that everybody would have to see, and

1155
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Speaker 2: in fact, maybe I don't fight again until you make

1156
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 2: that decision what happens next? Because it's never gonna see

1157
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: change unless somebody's willing with power is willing to do that.

1158
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Speaker 2: John Jones, we thought might have been common close to

1159
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Speaker 2: do that. When he said I want wilder money, he

1160
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Speaker 2: was publicly going against the UFC, and what do they

1161
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Speaker 2: do next? He set out three years? So Luke, what

1162
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: would happen? I mean, obviously, if all the fighters that

1163
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Speaker 2: were champions joined together and did this kind of coup,

1164
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: maybe change can happen. But no one's gonna that's not

1165
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Speaker 2: gonna happen. What if should Poton's team be on the

1166
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Speaker 2: phone pushing back.

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Speaker 3: And they have other business at hand. I'm not trying

1168
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Speaker 3: to rally for a particular fight. I'm simply trying to

1169
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Speaker 3: point out if this is at all going to be

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Speaker 3: an interesting thing to Jake Paul experience, it has to

1171
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Speaker 3: be involved with players of a level. Now that makes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So if nothing stopping them is just Dana's preference,

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Speaker 2: shouldn't they be pushing on that door every day, every week,

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Speaker 2: every month, Because if you become a pariah to them,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they can freeze you. But if you're the champion,

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Speaker 2: then I mean we want no one wants to.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about this later. Poeton is arguably in some

1180
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Speaker 3: of the biggest fights you can make, an mm A

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Speaker 3: like he doesn't have the strongest incentive at this place.

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Speaker 3: I'm only this. My only point is not to advocate

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Speaker 3: for the UFC, like, go make this fight. Of course,

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Speaker 3: it's day they could.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's a stupid fight in reality, of course.

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Speaker 3: But what I'm just trying to point out is look

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00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,799
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Speaker 3: That's my only point.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. We're not We're not too

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It feels a little uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: It does, look I believe that. You know, when we're

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Speaker 3: a little bit. We do have something to get to.

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Speaker 5: It was the well, it wasn't that these cards like

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Speaker 3: Was just least. It was just the least UFC cars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why are we calling in DC and Bruce Buffer

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Speaker 2: to do a you know, fight night eight?

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Speaker 3: Pence'll tell about Buffer. I give him credit. He gives

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say this was like on par with

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Speaker 3: He goes in there, he efforts through, he gives you

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Speaker 2: Or maybe he had to do it because Joe Martinez

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Speaker 3: Paul could be that too, but he did, he did

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Speaker 3: the job. Let's talk about UFC Vegas ninety four takeaways though.

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Speaker 3: The main event Verrna Genji will But taking on Amanda Laimos.

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00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 3: She subs her out with an armbar in the second round.

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00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 3: Some great scrambles along the way. You see. The first

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Speaker 3: question I would ask you is the broadcast kind of

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Speaker 3: hinted at it, given her win streak, given her position. Frankly,

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Speaker 3: given who else John Wi Lee hasn't even just beaten

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00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 3: or fought yet is she the now new contender in

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Speaker 3: this division?

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00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: She's a new contender. But I do think that that's

1260
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of a negative, though not a negative

1261
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: against Jenji Roebook. Congratulations four straight wins, and yes, to

1262
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Speaker 2: be fair, there were some quality names in that and

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Speaker 2: Amanda Limos, a former title challenger is or what's she

1264
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: title challenger? Or do just make that up?

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Speaker 3: I have to double.

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00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: Shoe she fought Whaley, I can never remember. I just

1267
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: think that this is a reality. So my original knee

1268
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: jerk to the that is Jenji robe is close, seriously,

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Speaker 2: just based on which he's a crued which is that

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1271
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: potential division and title, provided she can stay healthy to

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Speaker 2: be able to get this chance against way Lee. But

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Speaker 2: luke the fact that Jenji Robo is this close, it

1274
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Speaker 2: might be a little bit of an indictment. Finally, on

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Speaker 2: the true lack of depth. Finally at one fifteen, We've

1276
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Speaker 2: never talked about that before because it's never happened. They

1277
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Speaker 2: launched at the end of twenty fourteen. By the first

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Speaker 2: UFC card I was ever in person for was that

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Speaker 2: as far as a Versus Rose tough finale.

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Speaker 3: Sorry to hear that, actually that one wasn't bad.

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Speaker 2: I didn't hate that card.

1282
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Speaker 3: That one wasn't bad.

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Speaker 2: It's always been great. It's always been the best of

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Speaker 2: women's MMA. Obviously, the Rhonda sensation at one thirty five

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1286
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Speaker 2: many others Valentina Gdr even sliding in there. But one

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Speaker 2: p fifteen is not in a great place right now, Luke,

1289
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: and I just think, as much as I don't want

1290
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: to disrespect these two women, why are they in the

1291
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: main event. They're in the main event because they're the

1292
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 2: really the only highly ranked fighters on the card.

1293
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 3: The fight itself was good. You cannot say the fight

1294
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 3: was bad.

1295
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: Where the UFC is market wise, how are you rolling

1296
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: this out as a main event. It's not just the

1297
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: lack of quality control at the top. And I know

1298
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: that we're gonna We're gonna keep challenging the idea of

1299
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 2: just the worst on paper fight night Apex main event

1300
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: we've ever seen. When we get Sergate Spivac.

1301
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 5: Versus, tell me about the first one too.

1302
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 3: It's your favorite memory from the first.

1303
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: Look, here's my question here. I got two questions, But

1304
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: the first one is are they booking this with a

1305
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: straight face? Like there's obviously they're under some financial restraint

1306
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: to keep this as cheap as possible, which is why

1307
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: we're still seeing Fight Night cards at the Apex. But

1308
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 2: doesn't that doesn't always have to be a downer if

1309
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: you match it right right, you know what I mean?

1310
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't always have to be the worst thing ever.

1311
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 2: But this is unacceptable. This main event, the next one,

1312
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: the couple before. I mean, we can give you a

1313
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 2: list of the Fight Night main events this year. Are

1314
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 2: they doing it with a straight face? Under like, Okay,

1315
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 2: we know we're hamstrung even though we're making money hand

1316
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: over fist. Maybe they're putting a lot away for the

1317
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: potential anti trust lawsuit maybe, or maybe they're just in

1318
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: a spot where they are trying to grind every cent

1319
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 2: out of it, which is why it costs thousands now

1320
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 2: to even go to a pay per view. But are

1321
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 2: they booking this with a straight face? In your opinion,

1322
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: are they going, man, I hope we don't get too

1323
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: much flak for this, or do you think they were

1324
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: actually looking in the mirror going based on everything we've got, Yeah,

1325
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: Jenji Ropa versus Limos is a hell of a main

1326
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: event and that should bring in the people to tune

1327
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: in and buy the tickets. And then then a day

1328
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: later do they go not bad buddy speedvac typer too. Hey,

1329
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: we'll find out what happens this time. Like they can't

1330
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: be that. Like I wonder that, I'm gonna be honest,

1331
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: I wonder that about our friends Lori Senko, you know

1332
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 2: who respect a lot the other people on the broadcast crew.

1333
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: Do they look at the fight card cheet and going, ah, man,

1334
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a rough one now. I mean I

1335
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: would too if I was in their spot. And there's

1336
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: and it's not that that even this card, it's not

1337
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: void of things to talk about. Are good fighters, but

1338
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: I got problems with the packaging, which I'll get into

1339
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 2: a second, But I do want you to answer my

1340
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 2: question seriously. When it's Mick Maynard and Shawn Shelby and

1341
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: Hunter Campbell and Dana White and they're doing this and

1342
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 2: they need somebody to sign off, maybe it's Dane, I

1343
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 2: don't know who ultimately signs off that this is an

1344
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: acceptable card go with it. And by the way, this

1345
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: card lost Brad Davarus and the Cominum, which would have

1346
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 2: been an interesting fight too, so it kept getting worse.

1347
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: What do you think the consensus is that we did

1348
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: good given our resources or what's expected, because I have

1349
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: no expectations anymore for a fight, and I cart neither

1350
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 2: should you. You won't watch it live because you don't

1351
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 2: need to watch it live. So what is what are

1352
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: they saying when they book this that hope we don't

1353
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: get away with it? You tell me?

1354
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 11: Uh?

1355
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think this is a very complicated one.

1356
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 3: There we see it's a firm that has no competition. Okay,

1357
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: so are they literally they have the ability to construct

1358
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: a product to meet a financial model that is significant,

1359
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: which they've done without completely altering what they've done. You know,

1360
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 3: that's still they're still obviously a great degree of what

1361
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: they've always done. They just changed and added a lot.

1362
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: But they have no real competition and they have a

1363
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 3: financially the constructed content model. This is this is feature

1364
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: a bug. This is a feature.

1365
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: So they think they did I'm asking you do they

1366
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: think they did well given the current standards of what

1367
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: of what they have available budget wise and fighter wise.

1368
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: They think they did well on this card.

1369
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 3: I just feel like one they have they operate with

1370
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: some business impunity. But I would say that if you're

1371
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 3: trying to put yourself in their shoes, how are they

1372
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 3: looking at it? I think that they look at it

1373
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 3: more operationally. Look at the scale of what we're able

1374
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 3: to do week to week, event to event. We do

1375
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 3: a pay per view a month, right, they still obviously

1376
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 3: do those some of those. You'll start it out great,

1377
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 3: great pay per views, right, So there was all of

1378
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 3: that as well. They feel like, I think no one

1379
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: can do the uf No one can do the MMA

1380
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: machine like the way the UFC does it. Yes, this

1381
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 3: one is not as great as that one, but that's

1382
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 3: not what you should say.

1383
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 2: So they just think they're selling the brand. They're selling

1384
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: the brand name. It is what it is. These are

1385
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 2: the best ring fires we had. So part two of

1386
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: what I was going to say, and I want to

1387
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 2: get your opinion on this. I feel like I can

1388
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: help them here because whether it's selling tickets or trying

1389
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: to sell your buddies to watch it with you who

1390
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 2: are on MMA fans, if I tell you, hey, look,

1391
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: come over my house. On Saturday. There's a thirty six

1392
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: year old and thirty six seven thirty seven year old

1393
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: Brazilian who you've probably never heard of, that are going

1394
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: to go against each other, and like, the divisions are

1395
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 2: so weak, this might be a future title contender fight.

1396
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: And then I tell you the names, You're like, I

1397
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: think I got other plans BC or hey, maybe I

1398
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: won't go buy that ticket and go see it in person.

1399
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: But given what they have on this roster on this

1400
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: fight night, which wasn't awful, what if you repackaged debt

1401
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: like this. What if instead of Limos versus Janji Robo

1402
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: is the main event, we went, Hey, Douhu Choi, one

1403
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: of the greatest action fighters in UFC history, who yes

1404
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: has fought lately, not often, and has lost and has

1405
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 2: been in and out of the sport, but is in

1406
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: the UFC Hall of Fame for one of the greatest

1407
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: fights of all time. He's back against Bill alg On

1408
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 2: a very interesting fight in our main event to find

1409
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: out with the Hall of Famer and Action Hero can

1410
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: continue his run as the Korean super Boy and in

1411
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: our co main event, Rising Women's one twenty five or

1412
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: Miranda Maverick, who seems to us put it together and

1413
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: is this all American fighter is going to step up

1414
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: to another level with this victory potential here and also

1415
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 2: featuring two Strawway contenders Janji ro Versus Limos. I know

1416
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: that it's a moot point because it doesn't matter. They're

1417
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: selling another Fight Night card with the UFC brand, and

1418
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: that's just what it is. That's the end of the conversation.

1419
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 2: And I know they're not spending a lot of money

1420
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: to try to promote this card anyway, But wouldn't that

1421
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 2: be a better package to what we might actually need

1422
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 2: to see, or even putting mirandam Maverick in the main event,

1423
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: which is mind boggling to even say, but because she's

1424
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 2: not quite there yet, But I'd rather see her in

1425
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 2: a five round fight against a decent fighter to figure

1426
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: out where she is rather than burying her on the

1427
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: undercard and rolling out what just feels a lot like

1428
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 2: meaningless fight after meaningless fight.

1429
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, here's what I would say once you

1430
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 3: realize that, like there is this kind of belief in

1431
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 3: the industry that the only people who have ever been

1432
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 3: capable of successfully promoting MMA is the UFC. Like basically

1433
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 3: everyone else tried and simply wasn't good enough. It was

1434
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 3: a complete contest and only one person or one entity

1435
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: one And of course there's no denying they are very

1436
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 3: good at what they do. That's ne really not up

1437
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 3: for issue. The point I would like to make is

1438
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 3: like you know, in the nineteen forties, two nations at

1439
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 3: the same time basically figured out how to do play

1440
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 3: with atoms, to do gigantic you know, the most difficult

1441
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,919
Speaker 3: things imaginable, and they happen concurrently at the same time,

1442
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 3: on opposite ends of the earth. And yet people think

1443
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 3: that there's only one company who could ever successfully promote mma.

1444
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 3: If you have that kind of a belief, b see,

1445
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 3: why do they need to repackage their product to appeal

1446
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 3: to the sensibilities you're talking about. They're playing with house

1447
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 3: money here, just in terms of the way in which

1448
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 3: people conceive of them in the industry.

1449
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: I get you. You're still hitting me with these macro

1450
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: responses Long Island, Luke, am my own? Am I an

1451
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 2: old wine and bitch? Or am I onto something here?

1452
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 6: I think you're onto something.

1453
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: You're also a bitch. I mean, there's definitely I mean,

1454
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:50,959
Speaker 3: you do.

1455
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: A podcast every week the main card, mile High minute

1456
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: in which you know you and the cast of x

1457
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 2: MMA in MK cast offs who we love show up

1458
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 2: and people are getting it's great, So you have to

1459
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 2: watch these fights. I mean, does it matter to you

1460
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 2: or are you part of that machine who says, look, dude,

1461
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. I love getting high on

1462
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: Saturdays and watching fights, and the UFC brand still matters

1463
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 2: to me. So that's why I'm here.

1464
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 12: I gotta be honest. I am that person. I'm part

1465
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 12: of the machine. I'll watch any MMA card.

1466
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 2: Okay, then I'm then I'm just a bit you as

1467
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 2: a microphone in front of me.

1468
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are being I mean the fight was good.

1469
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 3: I mean we just talked about that for a second.

1470
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 3: The fight was. I mean it was an amazing or anything,

1471
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 3: but it was. I will say that, like the only

1472
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: thing about the fight that was not that great is

1473
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: the scrambles were great. Obviously, you know, there was a

1474
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 3: reversals of position and then the knee bar and then

1475
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 3: the work from the battle.

1476
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: It's good. I'm not gonna be a hater.

1477
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 3: So no, that part was great. I mean that there

1478
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 3: was certainly some value there. The only thing is, like,

1479
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 3: unless Jong Wiley has really sort of collapsed, and we

1480
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 3: don't know that yet. It's hard to see exactly Jenji

1481
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 3: Robo winning, which I'm not say impossible, but it's it

1482
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 3: doesn't it's not super convincing. The wind streak is nice,

1483
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 3: she's quite skillful, but you know, the physical beast and

1484
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 3: the scrambling ability of drong w Welly just kind of

1485
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 3: makes you feel like, well, unless that's really dropped off,

1486
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be there yet. But I will say,

1487
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 3: you know, it's nice to have the contender to continue

1488
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 3: to move here. It's just it feels like a women's

1489
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 3: Amma right now, like who is grabbing the game by

1490
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 3: the scruff of the Natsuarez?

1491
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 2: But I kind of need more updates from the UFC.

1492
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 2: Are we making healthy or.

1493
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 3: Felt like she's compiled her way to a nice record

1494
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 3: to get a potentially deserved option here and there's a

1495
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 3: chance she could win. It just all feels a little ordinary,

1496
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 3: I guess, is the way to put which.

1497
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: Is again why my argument of it never should have

1498
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 2: been a main event. It's a fine fight to determine

1499
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: placement in here.

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01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:34,919
Speaker 3: But Ben Folks has said it best. There's there's fights

1501
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 3: that are main events, and then there's cars where just

1502
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 3: one fight goes last. And that's kind of what you got.

1503
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 3: That is.

1504
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: That's why I like to me if you said, BC,

1505
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: what did you take away from this fight card? Or

1506
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: what was the biggest story? What did dude do?

1507
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: Who?

1508
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 3: Joy? Like?

1509
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 2: Can we talk about that?

1510
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: Luke?

1511
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: So the Korean superboy comes back? Now he had come

1512
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 2: had to coming back backfight and what had a draw

1513
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 2: or no contest?

1514
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1515
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 6: Let me had a draw with Kyle Nelson.

1516
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: Draw with Kyle Nelson and that was after a long

1517
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 2: gap away after losing three straight fights, and you know

1518
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 2: the wars that were within that. Look, he takes a frickin'

1519
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: punch like nobody else, which obviously can lead earlier in

1520
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: his career of what led him to get away from

1521
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: the sport. He can take a beat down and still

1522
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 2: come back ticking. Look do you saw when he ate

1523
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: that spinning back elbow from Bill Lgo like it was nothing? Yes,

1524
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: this guy still has a sick chin, but that's not

1525
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: the story and neither completely is him getting the win.

1526
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 2: To me, the story was they went back to the

1527
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 2: drawing board. He brought in his longtime mentor, the Korean

1528
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: zombie Chan Sung Jung, who's now his head coach, and

1529
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: was you know, rightfully smiling like the proud dad. I mean,

1530
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: he kind of looked like Glover in this great relationship

1531
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: with Poeton in that regard. To me, it was that

1532
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: he took that much time away and has figured out

1533
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: not how to be less exciting, but how to potentially

1534
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 2: have an enduring career, which is go to the areas

1535
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 2: where he never did have a big impact on the

1536
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: ground and create a new potential lane for him. And

1537
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that this win suddenly makes him, you know,

1538
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: ready for a title shot or anything, but I think

1539
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 2: there's health to his career again, and considering how exciting

1540
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: he is all the time, and he's very marketable you know,

1541
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: potentially too if he can really put it together. Look,

1542
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 2: it was great to see somebody who had kind of

1543
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 2: written off and said, Okay, he was like a Bo Jackson,

1544
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: not you know, not to that level, but just exploded

1545
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,439
Speaker 2: and was great in this moment of this fun action

1546
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 2: fighter with bright potential, and then he was gone. He's

1547
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: back again, and he might be back in a big way.

1548
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: I was really happy to see it.

1549
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 3: I completely agree. I thought the story here was we've

1550
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: been talking about certain fighters having wild situations Johnny Walker,

1551
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 3: Uri Prahatchka, wild sort of demeanors, and how do you

1552
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 3: change them without changing too much of who they are? Right?

1553
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 3: You can need to go super defensive and then they're

1554
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 3: not really themselves anymore, or you don't make much of

1555
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 3: a change at all, and then you're not really fixing

1556
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,919
Speaker 3: any kind of a problem. What was interesting here about

1557
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 3: Duo Choi to me was that he still was slugging

1558
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 3: it out at times. You saw that, you saw him

1559
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 3: rely on his chin a little bit, but bc he

1560
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 3: had defense this time. Now wasn't sophisticated defense. He wasn't

1561
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 3: doing you know, boots and his stuff. But getting back

1562
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 3: to sort of the Mike Perry defensive question about against

1563
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 3: Jake Paul, he was doing this and that didn't keep

1564
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 3: him safe all the time, but it gave him a

1565
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 3: little bit more patience. It gave him a little bit

1566
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 3: more time, It gave him a little bit more longevity

1567
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 3: in the fight. Not everything was twoth or nail, feast

1568
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 3: or famine. It was a better performance in that way.

1569
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 3: Those two left hooks that ultimately closed the show. I

1570
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 3: hope Bill Algio is okay. I don't know. I we'll

1571
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 3: see those are some.

1572
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 5: Big time But I completely agree. He didn't change completely

1573
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 5: who he is. He still will brawl time to time,

1574
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 5: he still will slug it out. He's still exciting.

1575
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 3: But just a little bit of defense.

1576
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

1577
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 3: It completely won't completely, but it visibly BC. It visibly

1578
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 3: improves his chances and how much he can contribute to

1579
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 3: a fight beyond just you know, craziness. All the time,

1580
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 3: I have.

1581
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: Breaking news and boxing that.

1582
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 3: You we got the news alert.

1583
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: Michael Benson, who on Twitter gets all the news compiled

1584
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: Luke and aggregates its. An aggregator is sharing a tweet

1585
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: from WBA president Gilberto Mendoza. Now a reminder, Luke, the

1586
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 2: four sanctioning body is the major ones that we deal

1587
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 2: with in boxing. They all suck, but some have worst reputations.

1588
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: I'd say the WBA is the worst because they make

1589
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 2: the most amount of bastardized titles for no reason to

1590
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 2: just keep cashing money. Gilberto Mendoza on social media said

1591
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 2: that after Jake Paul beat Mike Perry and Julio says

1592
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: Our Chavez Junior lint To that avoided gassing out enough

1593
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: to lose a close fight to your eye, Hall, I'll

1594
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 2: give your Ahul credit. By the way, he didn't fight bad.

1595
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 2: He actually made me want to see him again if

1596
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: he has to. Gilberto says, here's the tweet. I am

1597
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: not against a Jake Paul versus Chavez Junior or a championship.

1598
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 2: The fuck out of here, get out, like you know,

1599
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 2: like I mean, I look, I hate this side of boxing.

1600
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 3: Let's say this very very explicitly, of any entity you

1601
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 3: could point to, like, who's really the worst entity in

1602
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 3: Is it the promoters? Is it the managers? Is it

1603
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 3: the fighters themselves? Is it somebody else? Is it pr

1604
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 3: is it the sanctioning bodies? Is it the television networks.

1605
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 3: Let's be explicit, it's the sanctioning bodies. They are the

1606
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 3: worst operators in the industry, and for a very specific reason.

1607
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:28,440
Speaker 3: They're the only ones, the only ones whose entire existence

1608
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:33,520
Speaker 3: is premised on doing sport things for sport reasons, orderliness,

1609
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 3: playing by the book, making sure you're taking care of

1610
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 3: the sport for just for no other reason, not size

1611
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 3: of the sport, but the integrity of it.

1612
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: And they absolutely abuse that which collectively, like yet collectively

1613
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: we see we all see through them, but just accept

1614
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 2: it as it is that these are the four sanctioning

1615
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 2: bodies that matter and put out the four recognized titles.

1616
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 2: Even though they're constantly pulling bullshit, IBF and WBO not

1617
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 2: so much. They tend to follow their own rules. Can

1618
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 2: certainly find loopholes in there, and have all four sanction

1619
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 2: any bodies been linked with either the proven fact or

1620
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: the suspicion of promoters constantly paying them to get their

1621
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: fighters ranked. Yes, that's why some fighters are ranked only

1622
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 2: in one organization and none of the others. And that's

1623
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 2: why whenever there's a mandatory title, it tends to come

1624
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: against a guy you've never heard of from some random

1625
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: country who hasn't fought anybody. So that's already the baseline

1626
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 2: corruption that we sort of all deal with in there.

1627
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 2: But then you add into what the WBA does with

1628
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: having not just a champion in every division sometimes three

1629
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: to four when you consider the regular champion, but no,

1630
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 2: not the super champion. But then we have an interim

1631
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 2: champion for no reason because nobody's hurt. But then we

1632
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 2: also are going to do a vacant interim fourth regular

1633
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: transparent championship, And then you got the WBC, who doesn't

1634
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 2: make anybody. They create super champions so that their stars

1635
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 2: don't have to do mandatories. How the fuck that the

1636
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: WBC can allow Canelo right now? By the way, in

1637
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: other areas, WBC trying to force Williams to pay on

1638
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: Shirque Stevenson to fight for the title. Yeah, and in

1639
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 2: super middleway, it's not a Canelo's the super champion doesn't

1640
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 2: have to do what we want. We don't have to

1641
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 2: make him fight Benavidez at all. Why is that happening, Luke?

1642
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: Very simple answer, you are great, Very simple answer. I'm

1643
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: standing on my business. Okay. It's because when Canlo fights,

1644
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 2: he makes more money than the other champions, and the WBA,

1645
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: just like all the sanctioning viders, WBC in this case,

1646
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,759
Speaker 2: gets their ten percent or whatever it is. That's why

1647
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: at times we saw Floyd not defend certain titles and go,

1648
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not gonna pay you the two hundred

1649
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand that you would get for this. I

1650
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 2: just won't defend it. This fight. This is bullshit, Luke.

1651
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: I hope. The one thing I hope, and I don't

1652
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: know for real, I know that Saudi's got to Sadi's

1653
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 2: got some tricks up their sleeves, and they're gonna continue

1654
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 2: to make this push. I don't know if Turkey eels

1655
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 2: she can take over Box. I don't know if it's

1656
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: gonna happen. I don't know if the players that would

1657
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 2: be against it, yeah, all that, but if there's some

1658
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 2: element in whatever he's gonna do that silences the greed

1659
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 2: of the sanctioning bodies, under the auspices that hey, you

1660
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 2: don't have to be dirtback greedy anymore because we're all

1661
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 2: gonna make a lot of money moving forward now that

1662
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna some level of organization and the best are

1663
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 2: going to fight the best. Whether it works or not,

1664
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I hope that that's the hope,

1665
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 2: because remember that speech that no, don't forget that speech

1666
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 2: Turkey gave on Aerial Show when he said, wouldn't that

1667
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 2: be a shame IBF If me and all my friends

1668
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 2: who happened to be all the famous fighters in this

1669
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: sport decide to not fight for your title anymore, I

1670
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 2: just hope love.

1671
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,919
Speaker 5: I don't know if I want religious monarchies bullying.

1672
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 2: It's like choosing in elections of the who's the worst

1673
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 2: one here that I don't I don't know.

1674
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 3: I don't know if that this is in any way

1675
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:29,520
Speaker 3: a superior.

1676
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's bullshit. Man, I hate boxing sometimes. I

1677
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 2: don't want to take away from this great fight night Carter,

1678
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 2: there are any other fighters that you want to spotlight

1679
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 2: here from the some.

1680
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 3: Of the disent performances. To me, the big winners veh

1681
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 3: Or Jendrooba and Amanda Lamos putting on a very good

1682
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 3: scrap and then to me, du hoo CHOI a you

1683
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 3: know again, he is a flawed fighter, but he's an

1684
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,480
Speaker 3: exciting fighter and an improved one. That should be the storyline.

1685
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 2: Rand the Mavericks coming on though.

1686
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 3: She it was a fine fight. It was not very

1687
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 3: action packed. It was a lot of positional ground battles.

1688
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 3: It was it was a good performance from Maverick. It

1689
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 3: was a good performance. It was a good performance.

1690
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: But didn't she beat the witch?

1691
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 3: That was the nickname versus the witch?

1692
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: The Witch?

1693
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 3: Yes, you're right, it was fine. That was fine.

1694
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 2: It was it was a fight card.

1695
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 3: The fights happened. Oh, I will say this. I turned

1696
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 3: it on and it was the rob the gentleman's name

1697
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 3: robot zenov I forget how I pronounced it. His fight

1698
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 3: was going on, and he had done like a small

1699
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 3: joint manipulation and grabbed the fence, and herb Dean had

1700
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 3: given him, like, I'm not even joking, maybe eighty five

1701
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 3: thousand warnings. I don't I wasn't keeping track. It felt

1702
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 3: like that rub him by the duck and then just

1703
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 3: being like, yeah, here's a hard warning. I'm like, guys,

1704
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 3: grabbing the fence you get and I don't care what

1705
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 3: the rules say. Grabbing the fence. I poking your opponent,

1706
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 3: kicking them in the balls is one hundred legal. It

1707
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 3: is absolutely legally. The question is how many you get

1708
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 3: before it impacts? Okay, should you can get three of those?

1709
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 2: I asked this question before. Shouldn't you flirt with the

1710
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: idea of taking away a point right away, just so

1711
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: you begin to set a tone of what's acceptable and

1712
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 2: what's not, so that there's a risk involved in purposely cheating.

1713
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 3: Yes, hey, let me let me I'll fix everything today, Luke,

1714
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 3: let me call an audible.

1715
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: Let me pitch you question four? Okay, may I do that? Yeah?

1716
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 2: All right, you have a producers credit.

1717
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 3: Right, that's right?

1718
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 5: Hey, listen who Friday Show are not that great. But

1719
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 5: there's only one guy making those foss You.

1720
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 2: Know what your producer's credit is worth in this era

1721
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 2: of modern day?

1722
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: Okay?

1723
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 3: Nothing zip? All right, here we go BC. A little

1724
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 3: bit of a sad news in boxing. I don't really

1725
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 3: know if there's blame is the right word. We'll talk

1726
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 3: about it, but I Fasilia Limachenko, it turns out, is

1727
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 3: not interested in fighting Tank Davis. But despite reports that

1728
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 3: the negotiations were going smoothly, it was a fight that

1729
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 3: was going to happen and potentially in October, it has

1730
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 3: gone up in smoke after his manager had revealed he

1731
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 3: just wants to take the rest of the year off.

1732
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:47,600
Speaker 3: So BC, given the choice, what is the best available

1733
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 3: fight that Tank Davis can have? Match make? What is it?

1734
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: I've got three that here.

1735
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,440
Speaker 2: We have a tweet to throw because I think it's related.

1736
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 3: To what I want to Let me double check. We

1737
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 3: go aheadre we go.

1738
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 2: It's up there. This is from coach Kenny Eellis, who

1739
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 2: is the trainer of Tank Davi and, by the way,

1740
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 2: tweets a lot or puts a lot of truth on

1741
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: social media. It says, if Lomachenko can't get motivated by

1742
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 2: getting a chance at being the face of boxing. His

1743
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 2: team needs to hang his gloves to where he can

1744
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: never reach them again. He's done. I want to say

1745
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: Luke that I don't think we actually know yet the

1746
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 2: full motive of Lomachenko. I believe that he didn't want

1747
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 2: to fight right now, and that's the point that he

1748
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: felt he decided that he needed some time off. There

1749
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: has been some rumblings of people saying is this a

1750
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 2: contractual move by him or a negotiation move by him?

1751
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 2: Maybe he wasn't getting the offer that he felt he deserved,

1752
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 2: so he's basically saying, well, we'll just walk away. It

1753
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 2: could be that. Look, it very well could be that. Okay,

1754
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 2: but you asked me what should be next for Tank? Look,

1755
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 2: if you can't get Loma right now, which I think,

1756
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 2: escalation wise, was the right fight for Tank, not just

1757
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 2: big commercially, but critically right to continue that path deeper

1758
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 2: down the pound for pound rankings. What's another fight that

1759
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 2: can give you exactly that? Checkers Stevenson, Checkers Stevenson. And

1760
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 2: here's the deal. Shaker is a free agent, so could

1761
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: it come through him signing a multi fight deal with PBPC.

1762
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 2: It could be. But Luke, what if he resigned with

1763
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 2: top rank? I wonder if you can make it right

1764
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: now where we are in these boxing boxing streets, can

1765
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 2: you make a crossover fight between the two of them,

1766
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 2: because you can say, well, Shaquz boring and he just

1767
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 2: went through hell on Twitter, and he did, but he pushed,

1768
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 2: he started a lot of those fires. I think his

1769
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 2: star actually got a little bit bigger from this, through

1770
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 2: all the negativity, because there, you know, you can argue

1771
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 2: there's no such thing as bad press. I think this

1772
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 2: is the fight right now because I think they're close enough.

1773
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 3: And wait right now too, let me just say a

1774
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 3: one fight I don't want to see. I don't want

1775
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 3: to see Tank versus Cambosis.

1776
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 2: No, dude, that should not even be in the conversation.

1777
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 3: Not saying that it is. I'm just declaring, like, of

1778
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 3: all the available fights, okay.

1779
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 2: I don't have any truth. What if Piple beats Valenzuel.

1780
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 3: Let me give you my list of what I think

1781
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 3: the best available fights are for Tank Davis. So obviously

1782
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 3: he's coming off to Frank Martin win a few directions

1783
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,799
Speaker 3: you could go sha Kus Stevenson seems like a no brainer.

1784
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 3: Best one available, Devin Haney sitting out.

1785
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 2: Because it would make a statement of people who were

1786
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 2: saying that you're not fighting guys who can actually potentially

1787
01:16:58,240 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 2: beat you, like top top guys.

1788
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 3: Right, So there's that you could I don't think it'll happen,

1789
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 3: but I would love a risky one forty fight with

1790
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 3: Taro fem Lopez. I think is a fight you can

1791
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 3: absolutely do. I don't think it's okay fair enough. You

1792
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 3: could do Esack Cruz rematch. Now that was a decision

1793
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 3: the first time, and Esta Cruz walked him down the

1794
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 3: entire time. He got out boxed, but you know that

1795
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 3: was a different He battered the ship out of the way.

1796
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 3: That's another one you could go. I don't know how

1797
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 3: likely these are. You could go to Dennis burnscik route.

1798
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 3: I don't think that was necessarily something that it would want.

1799
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 3: The Kishawn Davis Kishawn Davis won is a little bit

1800
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 3: interesting to me.

1801
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 2: Still too early in terms of both where Kishan Starr

1802
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 2: could eventually.

1803
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 3: It is absolutely too early. But if you look at

1804
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 3: the rankings, Kishon Davis is ahead in most places of

1805
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 3: Frank Martin. It would almost be quite literally a rankings escalation.

1806
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 3: If you actually think about it that way. Again, these

1807
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 3: are not that would not be my number one preference,

1808
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 3: but I think it's a direction.

1809
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 2: You could go the argument against me and saying Shakur

1810
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 2: you could easily say is you could push the argument

1811
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 2: of has Shakur damaged his brand more than helped it

1812
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 2: with everything that's going on, and you could say, well, look,

1813
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 2: if with the danger of what Chakur brings, why would

1814
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 2: you risk that when you could fight these other guys.

1815
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, if pitpol Cruz beats Vealezuela, his stars

1816
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 2: rising very quick in terms of Mexico adopting him and

1817
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 2: following him and putting money behind him, that maybe, you know,

1818
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 2: Pipole is a bigger commercial fight. But I think that

1819
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 2: it's time for Tank right now to take one of

1820
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: these challenges. And look, a lot of people think he's

1821
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 2: gonna blow away Shakur, and Tank says that himself. So

1822
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 2: if that's the case, then make the fight, Because what

1823
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 2: you were going to get most from the Lomachenko fight

1824
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 2: was that critical viability, even with Omomachenko being old, and

1825
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 2: even with people saying this fight should happen three years ago,

1826
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 2: which I've I've seen a lot of boxing twitter too. Look,

1827
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: Lomachenko is still to some element that dude, and you

1828
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 2: would still solve a certain question that we need to

1829
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 2: see and imagine if he stopped him, by the way,

1830
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 2: that'd be wild. But Luke, to me, Chakur is that

1831
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: because I wonder if this actually is the best time

1832
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 2: to fight Shakur, if your tank, because I still think

1833
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 2: Chakur hasn't figured out how to put his greatness together

1834
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: to be entertaining and also elevate himself. I think the

1835
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: reason why I'm gonna lean on picking him and the

1836
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 2: reason why I support him in a lot of these

1837
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 2: arguments is I think he's the real deal because I

1838
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 2: think when the rubber meets the road and it's fight night,

1839
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 2: he's not gonna care about entertaining you, but he's gonna

1840
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 2: get that. W Floyd had that that in him too, right,

1841
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 2: and and it's it's a special act. But I think

1842
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 2: eventually Shaker is going to figure out how to how

1843
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 2: to lead that to more offense and and even in

1844
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 2: tough challenges, chase people down and do that. I think

1845
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: right now, if you're if you're tank, it might be

1846
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: the perfect time. And and I hope he does that, Luke,

1847
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 2: I think I think it's would you do you think

1848
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 2: that fight?

1849
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: Cells?

1850
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think it's also a ship ton because you

1851
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 3: get to kir Stevenson has built up a lot of

1852
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 3: resentment with people. He has his own resentment. I mean,

1853
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 3: he's out there beefing with Cam and Mace.

1854
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 2: Uh.

1855
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 3: He's having these like large beefs that are just ongoing.

1856
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 3: That alone is generated a ton of attention.

1857
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 2: And what if we do Floyd in his in his

1858
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 2: corner obstensibly like not as his lead trainer, but as

1859
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 2: his Ay Tank, fuck you, I got my guy? Now?

1860
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 2: What about that? About that?

1861
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 3: Luke? Yep, there's something to that as well. Absolutely. I

1862
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,879
Speaker 3: I the cha cur fight is the runaway, easy choice.

1863
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 3: But the other ones that I mentioned would be great.

1864
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 3: But if they come up to me with Tank versus Cambosis,

1865
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 3: your boy is going to be better to me. That

1866
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 3: would be on par with something like Canelo Burlonga, like

1867
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 3: just just dead dead on the right box, dead on.

1868
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 2: A road is going and was a couple of months ago.

1869
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 5: There's some a little quiet now now it will be

1870
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 5: a good day.

1871
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 2: But I hope, I mean, is that selling? I hope?

1872
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1873
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 2: We were we were almost going to talk to Andrew Luisa.

1874
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 2: That would have been fun.

1875
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he bailed on us.

1876
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: We're almost going to talk to Randy Gatuura.

1877
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 3: You were going to ask him what was goes on

1878
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,959
Speaker 3: his glizzy that he got caught eating on the streets,

1879
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 3: A lot of food related questions.

1880
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: But I was worried about potential fat shaming because because

1881
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 2: if you're gonna talk dany reason, and by the way,

1882
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 2: he doesn't do a lot of interviews, you're gonna have

1883
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: to bring up, you know, the fallout of him winning

1884
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 2: the title and then getting fat and losing it and

1885
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: kind of being inconsistent the last few years. And remember

1886
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: when is his girl like out at him on on

1887
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 2: social media?

1888
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 3: That was Remember when he beat Anthony Joshua and then

1889
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 3: he was eating sushi off naked models?

1890
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 2: Yes, and do you remember when they did that? His

1891
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 2: own team did like a pre fight documentary for him

1892
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 2: ahead of the Joshua fight, But like everywhere they went

1893
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 2: was pizza places and they were just gorge and food.

1894
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 2: I mean they're just going house housing down, barbecue, pizza.

1895
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,759
Speaker 2: I mean, you know whatever, Luke, I mean.

1896
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 3: There's I gotta tell you, is it just me Australian

1897
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 3: rules luke or is BC in a mood today.

1898
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 6: Sitting in row eight?

1899
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Australian.

1900
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 5: Takes one to know one rules football over there, that's

1901
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 5: a different game.

1902
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 3: Wow, all right, are you to point number five?

1903
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 2: You want to?

1904
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 3: You know what, why don't we skip point five? Because

1905
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 3: we'll do a UFC three oh four preview?

1906
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so we will because I know you say, BC

1907
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 2: stopped listening to hairs. They were people were mad we

1908
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 2: didn't show up on Friday, but we didn't tell them

1909
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 2: that's why they were mad. Well, I was a late scratch.

1910
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 2: We were like, yeah, I don't think that.

1911
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 3: There was just nothing really to say. And also did

1912
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 3: we owe.

1913
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: Them a tweet? Yes? Or no? Did we owe them

1914
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 2: a tweet?

1915
01:21:58,640 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1916
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry. We're in a little bit of disarray,

1917
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 2: as you know. But we are angling.

1918
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't slept in days, so we're angling in.

1919
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 2: The right direction. Still, we'rengling. It's we're pointing that way, right.

1920
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 3: There's a little something to that.

1921
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 2: I guess.

1922
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 3: I don't know the way. The news just the news

1923
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 3: just broke that andre Ward is signed with all the

1924
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 3: Smoke Productions news.

1925
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Speaker 1: I don't know this chief.

1926
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Speaker 3: Content Officer, Chief content officer. Oh wow, yeah, okay, is

1927
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 3: he going to fire us?

1928
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 2: You know I've always I've loved I've always loved Andrew.

1929
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 3: We love andre we like him a lot more. Now

1930
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 3: I don't fire us.

1931
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 2: Wait, did he just become our boss?

1932
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 3: Is that what you're thinking?

1933
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 2: Andre first point of interest? We got to get this

1934
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: Friday show going every week, all right, So let's go, buddy,

1935
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: let's get on it.

1936
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Speaker 3: Okay, too sweet? Yeah, congrats to andre Ward. I hope that.

1937
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 2: I hope that one day Jake von Amsterdam gets hired.

1938
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 3: That'd be great, that would be special.

1939
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 2: That guy is the creative heart and soul of what

1940
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 2: we do here. And you know, he's weirder than me,

1941
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 2: but he does contain his weirdness enough so we're never

1942
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: nervous unless he's in your hotel room and he will

1943
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 2: not leave. You know that he will cling to you,

1944
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 2: but it's like a wholesome cling. He's not like reach

1945
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: in for anything, right.

1946
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't let him in my room more

1947
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 3: than thirty seconds at a time.

1948
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but sometimes he'd be like, yo, I got to

1949
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: test that out. I gotta be up in your room

1950
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 2: and then like suddenly three hours later, you're like shake like, dude,

1951
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 2: I've got to look you know, if I was looking

1952
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 2: like Jake, I got a lot of masturbating to do here.

1953
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 2: Can we get you out of here? Hey, it's okay.

1954
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: So we're gonna skip point five. We're gonna do a

1955
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 2: full UFC three or four the right way later this week.

1956
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 2: I want to tell you something before we hit those

1957
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 2: d ms. We're going to get some ship today, Horny.

1958
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 2: But I'm remember the end of Billy Madison, Like you.

1959
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 3: Know, you see the shooter Donald Trump, shooter died, Horny.

1960
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 2: I saw that what he loved, he really was like

1961
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 2: blaze of glory. Yeah, so I put together the Row

1962
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 2: eight ship. I'm sorry I put together that. Have you

1963
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: seen this ship while in the fetal position in row eighth?

1964
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 2: And I will just say that, like, you know, you

1965
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 2: send me clips when you're in that state, and normally

1966
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I'm so lame. Sometimes what you think

1967
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 2: is funny when you're in row eight, no one else does.

1968
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: So I'm gambling today I'm leaning in a certain direction

1969
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 2: with some of these bits. I don't know if it's.

1970
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 3: Gonna I send you funny memes you're out of your mind.

1971
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 3: I send what was one that I send you that

1972
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 3: wasn't funny?

1973
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 2: We just have differing, you know where we're close in

1974
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 2: a lot of competic categories. You want to be like flatulence,

1975
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 2: We like you know, I like people get hitting the

1976
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 2: nuts more than anything in the world. I'm on a

1977
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: little nine to eleven kick.

1978
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 3: I tell you Austine rules, Luke. I didn't know nine

1979
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 3: to eleven humor was it an industry until I met

1980
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 3: Brian cam.

1981
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, that's it. You don't want to You

1982
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 2: just painted me publicly as somebody I'm not. Okay, thank

1983
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 2: you very much. With that said, is there a statue

1984
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 2: of limitations and when you can start laughing at things? Look,

1985
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:43,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.

1986
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what the world would be on that.

1987
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 3: But all right, With that in mind, so let's let's

1988
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 3: state it for the record. Three or four preview coming

1989
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 3: at the end of this week or close to it.

1990
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:52,839
Speaker 3: We have to we have to do it on Thursday,

1991
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 3: depending whatever, but either way, either way we'll get one

1992
01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 3: of those four you guys show. All right, Yeah, okay,

1993
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 3: h b C. With that in mind, it's time for

1994
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 3: when the donks get to ask us questions. It's time

1995
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 3: for dams from Donkins. Okay, all right, what are we doing?

1996
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 6: I mean that'll be the next thing, That'll be the

1997
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 6: next thing, one thing at a time.

1998
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, I will say the horn and the breaking.

1999
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 2: News Regien and Hereward's first day on the job. He's

2000
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 2: like point of interest for the day fixed the gross

2001
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 2: DM horn where it sounds like the guy, yeah.

2002
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 3: Okay, donkey exactly all right, dms from Donks. Here we

2003
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 3: go from Sasquatch Toys BC. We never really got to this.

2004
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,480
Speaker 3: What is next for Mike Perry Connor. Maybe in BKFC.

2005
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 3: I doubt Connor fights him under any circumstance at this point.

2006
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 2: I mean that was see that this is the problem,

2007
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 2: that's the fight to make now for that for BKFC,

2008
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 2: and that storyline of of they already went face to

2009
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,759
Speaker 2: face on a BKFC ring. It led to Connor becoming

2010
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 2: part owner of the company. I do question, Luke whether

2011
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 2: that was received well behind the scenes from Dave Feldman

2012
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 2: and company when Connor's just going rogue and like you're fired.

2013
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 2: But it kind of does play to the idea of

2014
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 2: that's the next fight to make. But Connor is claiming

2015
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 2: publicly that he has two fights left on his UFC

2016
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: deal and that as soon as that's done, he's like

2017
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 2: I've seen him talk trash at certain athletes, you know,

2018
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 2: other combat athletes and beg, well, I've got two fights

2019
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 2: left and then I'm available. Do you feel like this

2020
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 2: is a Mike Perry question, but there's also Connor question.

2021
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 2: Do you feel like UFC is pushing him back the

2022
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 2: goalposts when they get the chance to extend him so

2023
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: he doesn't do that. I mean, the Connor argument to

2024
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 2: that is Connor just pulled out of the fight that

2025
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: they were trying to force him to take when he's injured.

2026
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 2: But it has been a long ass time here before

2027
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 2: he's ever going to come back for him to think, oh,

2028
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 2: I've just got two more fights and I'm gonna get

2029
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 2: through it. Maybe it's not the company pushing him back.

2030
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 2: Either way, he's not. I mean, I can't see him

2031
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 2: doing that in a clean period of time. It's not

2032
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 2: like he's going to take two fights in the next

2033
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 2: five months. So I feel bad because I think that

2034
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 2: is the fight to make for Mike Perry right now.

2035
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 2: It makes sense Connor's in house. But you can't. You

2036
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 2: just can't make that right now.

2037
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 3: Jake Paul one was a good opportunity for him because

2038
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 3: remember he had basically just beaten Thiago Alvaz inside of

2039
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 3: a round. They don't really have anything for him as

2040
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 3: an obvious guy to fight that the fans know, not

2041
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 3: that there's no qu necessarily, but that the fans know.

2042
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 3: And so this's why the Jake Palfi was like kind

2043
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,480
Speaker 3: of fortunis. You're like, oh, right, okay, all the name value.

2044
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 3: But then he had a fairly you know.

2045
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 2: He really needs he really needs an aging MMA fighter

2046
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 2: with name value who he can get into a trash

2047
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 2: talk war with. But I do have to ask you

2048
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: what does this mean for his future with this dirty

2049
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 2: boxing promotion? Do you think BKFC like that where he's

2050
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 2: basically like they must be okay, they must have known

2051
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 2: and at some level they probably had to agree or whatever.

2052
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 2: But like that's it is not a bad look when

2053
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 2: the face of your promotion that you just let go

2054
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 2: do another thing, which I think was a smart move.

2055
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 2: He entered as the BCFC champion. I just unfortunately I

2056
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 2: don't think Mike raised his stock with his performance. Beyond

2057
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 2: just his toughness level. But they can't be excited about

2058
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 2: He's just did his biggest fight outside of the organization

2059
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 2: with them, and now he's gonna come back and launch

2060
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 2: essentially a rival. Look, it's a rival. It is a rival.

2061
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 2: It's in the same space.

2062
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 3: It might be more a feeder league, but yes, it

2063
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 3: certainly is. There's an overlap for sure.

2064
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 2: I mean I don't see it being successful. But if

2065
01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 2: you had to guess or could name one, what's a

2066
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,839
Speaker 2: would be one good BCFC opponent for him, Austin Trout.

2067
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 3: No, there was somebody else who's like the it was

2068
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 3: either a double champ or or it just was double

2069
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 3: champus now is a single champ and lost one of them.

2070
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 3: I don't Again, this is what I'm saying, like, I

2071
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 3: don't even I don't know who that would even be.

2072
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 3: So this is kind of where does he.

2073
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 2: Ever get a bigger fight than what he had on Saturday? Possible?

2074
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 3: Possible? I mean he's still Yeah, I probably not anytime soon,

2075
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 3: but it's possible.

2076
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 2: Connor fights out as UFC deal. Yes, then this isn't

2077
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: impossible in a year and a half.

2078
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 3: Unlikely is my view. Okay, all right. Question number two,

2079
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 3: I don't know who they're talking about here.

2080
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 2: They're talking about Curtis Blades.

2081
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 3: Are people sleeping on Curtis Blades's chances for this fight?

2082
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 3: I'll see the UFC three or four co main event,

2083
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 3: the interim heavyweight title on the line. Well, that's a

2084
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 3: good question.

2085
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 2: So let's take well in general, yes, in general, yes,

2086
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 2: they're sleeping on it. Because we all want asked all

2087
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 2: to fight Jones. We don't want this these interim semi

2088
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 2: final fights and sort of this odds and sort of

2089
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 2: this tournament that'll probably never come to fruition.

2090
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 3: Let's say people are sleeping on him a little bit. Yeah,

2091
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 3: he is an underdog according to our friends at DraftKings

2092
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 3: a plus two ninety five Tom aspital A minus three

2093
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 3: seventy five. If my yeah, I think they are.

2094
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 2: Sleeping on him. But to be to be very fair

2095
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 2: in a negative slant against Curtis Blades in the biggest

2096
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 2: moment when it's time had some issues, there's time to

2097
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 2: climb that final hill. He's had some issues, so it's

2098
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 2: hard till you see it.

2099
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 3: The over him win was strong, and I will also

2100
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 3: say the fact that that Volkov win is aging a

2101
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 3: little bit better than I think some folks are accepting.

2102
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 2: Now.

2103
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 3: He had to cut that one out and it got dicey,

2104
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 3: but he was. But the point you're raising, like against

2105
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 3: Lewis for example, that was a fight that he seemed

2106
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 3: Taylor made for him to win twice against Francis again twice.

2107
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 3: France is a tough guy. Those are hard fights to win.

2108
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 3: But yes, that there's been some limiting issues. But I

2109
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 3: do think, you know, there's a way to look at

2110
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 3: this and be like, well, could he stand up to

2111
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 3: Blades's wrestling? But I think Blades is going to slug

2112
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 3: it out with him. And I will say this, there

2113
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 3: is a lot that is still unknown about Tom Aspinall's

2114
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 3: striking defense. He is athletic, he's he's he gets in

2115
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 3: and out of range very quickly. He does have some

2116
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 3: head movement. There was only fifteen seconds of footage Tom

2117
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 3: was getting landed on, but you know what Pavlovitch was

2118
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 3: landing on him too. All I'm saying is obviously Tom

2119
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 3: Aspinall looks the part, but he hasn't. He has seventeen

2120
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 3: pro fights. I think I just saw tweet seventeen pro fights,

2121
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:15,719
Speaker 3: less than accumulative hour in the cage of fight time.

2122
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,759
Speaker 3: That's not a lot of fight time about knowing someone

2123
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 3: who's already a champion technically, So see all right, question

2124
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 3: number three BC from Moham. I hope this is not

2125
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 3: a racist number one, one, seven, eight five. You never

2126
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 3: know these days with.

2127
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 2: The racist numbers.

2128
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 3: There's okay, I'm not gonna say that.

2129
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 2: You remember the band three eleven people thought that was

2130
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 2: It's a.

2131
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 3: Similar kind of thing to that. But there's there's definitely

2132
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 3: racist numbers out there. I guess assembly of numbers.

2133
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 2: Kind of like how the monster letters are are very sataniclu.

2134
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:47,799
Speaker 3: This is the one that the racist tattoo on themselves,

2135
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 3: so I'm taking them at their word. Right. Do you

2136
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 3: think the Luca versus Diaz fight was canceled due to

2137
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 3: Nick finding out the marijuana laws?

2138
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 2: That's the so for folks you didn't.

2139
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 3: See Nick Diaz versus visenting Luke was which scheduled to

2140
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 3: be on the August third, Corey sant Haggen Umar number

2141
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 3: got made off fight. That fight is being postponed. It

2142
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,679
Speaker 3: will not be on that one and instead Charyl Bullet

2143
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 3: is taken on Olak Shishik, which is not a bad fight.

2144
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 2: Actually it might be an upgrade.

2145
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 3: So what do you think.

2146
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 2: I hope that Nick Daz doesn't fight, and if he does,

2147
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 2: I hope it's an exaggerated old guy fight that's more

2148
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 2: akin to his last fight with a deeper aging Robbie Logan.

2149
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. Vincent Luke is not in his prime

2150
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 2: and is probably closer to the end in a lot

2151
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 2: of ways from his recent history. But I don't even

2152
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 2: feel like this is appropriately matched, Like, how can we

2153
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 2: expect this? And it doesn't feel like Nick Dyez wants this.

2154
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 2: It didn't feel like he wanted it last time. He

2155
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 2: basically said it in the microphone. This is just weird him.

2156
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 2: This comeback fight has just felt weird. I obviously no

2157
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 2: one knows the direct answer reason of why this fight

2158
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 2: was pulled, and I think that's a hilarious guess and answer.

2159
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 2: But I hope kind of my hope now with the

2160
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 2: Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight, that this long gap that

2161
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 2: we just kind of come to our senses now. I

2162
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 2: want to come to my senses on this Luke. Nick's

2163
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 2: not fit to fight in there. I don't want to

2164
01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 2: see anymore. What is there to gain?

2165
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I don't know how

2166
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 3: to answer that anymore. I think this is one part

2167
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 3: where your negativity today is actually.

2168
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 2: Yes, you think I've been universe? Say it a universally

2169
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 2: negative or selectively selectively? There we go, There we go.

2170
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 3: Okay, it's just unusual because you're usually the guy who's

2171
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 3: like upbeat, and I come in here weathered, and now

2172
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 3: I feel like.

2173
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,879
Speaker 2: You'll never forget one thing about me. I like pleasure

2174
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 2: spiked with pain. MK is my aeroplane, right, you know

2175
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:26,560
Speaker 2: what I mean?

2176
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, you know what we need. We need

2177
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 3: one more sound besides the doctor. Look up funk Master.

2178
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,640
Speaker 3: You know funk Master Flex. He has the one that

2179
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 3: has the bomb sounding. Ye knows what I'm talking.

2180
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 12: Ever since the start of the show, Nadir is like,

2181
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 12: you need the funk Flex bomb.

2182
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 6: Yes, might be copyritten, That might be copyright. We got

2183
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 6: to look into it.

2184
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 3: You can't copyright sounds, of course you can. How do

2185
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:54,879
Speaker 3: you cover right a fucking sound?

2186
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 6: You created it.

2187
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 2: You can make it an FT out of it. Look,

2188
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 2: you can own it for life.

2189
01:32:58,400 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 3: That's a scam.

2190
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 5: I mean, maybe remember people telling me put the camera?

2191
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 5: Did you buy your I have bitcoin put the camera. Remember,

2192
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 5: people tried to tell you NFTs were a good idea.

2193
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 5: Fucking idiots, all right.

2194
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 2: You think we've worn that idea to get looked.

2195
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 3: From empty buble. Have you ever purchased an as Scene

2196
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 3: on TV? Item?

2197
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 2: What the fuck kind of question is this?

2198
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 12: Oh?

2199
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:23,839
Speaker 2: You know that isle in Walmart with all the bullshit

2200
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 2: infomercial stuff. Yes, I have, And the best thing I

2201
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 2: have ever bought I'm a target shopper. Okay, the best

2202
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 2: thing I have ever bought in the idea of as

2203
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 2: seen on TV, which has been around forever, that idea

2204
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 2: that you know with that sticker at it that tells you,

2205
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 2: just like the infomercial, it's the clapper, clap on, clap off, dude,

2206
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:44,560
Speaker 2: the clapper rules has always ruled, has always gotten a

2207
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 2: bad How.

2208
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 3: Is this less energy than this? Look?

2209
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 2: When you think of as scene on TV, you think

2210
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 2: of like the flow b right, like that vacuum haircut machine.

2211
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 2: You think of anything that's just like a stupid gimmick, dude,

2212
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 2: the clapper. It wasn't a thigh master that you'd use

2213
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 2: for ten minutes and ever again, I used it for years.

2214
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 6: I think I.

2215
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 2: Bought mine in like an aims in like eighty nine.

2216
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 2: But I was using that as a solo single man.

2217
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 2: Was there a correlation? Let me ask you in the

2218
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 2: mid two thousand still and I still have it. I

2219
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 2: know where it is in my house, and actually the

2220
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 2: other day I was thinking I should pull it that

2221
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 2: clapper and like like set it up in my kids

2222
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 2: room where they don't know that I've done it, and

2223
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 2: I can play gower. Are you married yet? You lived

2224
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 2: like a divorced man. I've always lived. See that's the

2225
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 2: thing I have.

2226
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 5: You got like your divorced dad energy hold on a

2227
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 5: sad underlying.

2228
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 3: More divorced dad energy BC or me. I pleaded the

2229
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:38,760
Speaker 3: fifth on the.

2230
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 2: What I'll say is this, I have this conversation both

2231
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 2: with my therapist and my wife. Often with my wife

2232
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 2: normally like in a joking manner, but it's true. If

2233
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 2: things ever went south in my marriage, and you know,

2234
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 2: God willing never, I would be the saddest divorced dad.

2235
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 2: Now I wouldn't be ponytail in a sports car, because

2236
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 2: that's like, you know, a guy trying too hard.

2237
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 3: You'd be ponytail on top.

2238
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 2: Let's just say I had an uncle once who after

2239
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 2: a divorce moved into a one room efficiency apartment that

2240
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 2: I went into one time with like a waterbed and

2241
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 2: you can reach your kitchen sink from the bed, and

2242
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 2: it's just like, I'm like, that's where I would be.

2243
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 2: It would be like my vinyl with like you know,

2244
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 2: my record player and like a crate to sit on

2245
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 2: and Fortnite on the Xbox, and it'd just be, Yeah,

2246
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 2: I think I have I don't. I don't want to

2247
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 2: say this because I don't want to talk it into existence,

2248
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 2: but I think I have underlying divorce dad sat energy.

2249
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 2: But by the way back to the clapper, it still

2250
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 2: works and it's still kind of brilliant. We all have

2251
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 2: a light that isn't hooked up.

2252
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 3: How is this or like you know, okay, here's what.

2253
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 2: It works for. It's not when you're when you have

2254
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 2: a lamp in the other corner of your room that

2255
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 2: you're too lazy to reach, or if you walk into

2256
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 2: like a big basement in the and the light is

2257
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 2: not a switch, it's not it's not wired. You have

2258
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 2: a light that's plugged in the corner of the room,

2259
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 2: and you want to turn that one on or off

2260
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 2: for convenience when you're coming in and out. It's perfect.

2261
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 2: It's perfect when you're in bed and you have a

2262
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 2: lamp that you can't reach, you're too lazy, and you

2263
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 2: clap and it turns out.

2264
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 3: I have I can say with absolute certainty, I have

2265
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 3: never in my life ever purchased an AS scene on TV.

2266
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 2: Item No say that. I know. It's white trash for

2267
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 2: me to sit here and talk up the clapper, but

2268
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 2: it works. It had a lifespan. It it's still it

2269
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 2: still matters to me.

2270
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 6: The clapper is legit.

2271
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 12: Also, in high school, I used to work at a

2272
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 12: store that sold like all the AS scene on TV stuff.

2273
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I used a bunch of it. It was like

2274
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 6: a variety.

2275
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:22,799
Speaker 3: So there's a store, there's an outlet mall right outside

2276
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 3: d C and Oxen Hill, Maryland, and they have an

2277
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 3: ASS scene on TV.

2278
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 2: Stole Yes, brick and mortar.

2279
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 3: Brick and mortar.

2280
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,600
Speaker 5: Now, there was a there was a question five, but

2281
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 5: you guys said.

2282
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:34,600
Speaker 3: You changed it. Oh God, here we go from Fisher

2283
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 3: Fisher aiden if style, Bender stays at middleweight and wins

2284
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 3: the title again and put what's on defends the light

2285
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 3: heavyweight title again and they both retire.

2286
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 2: That's a monster fighting.

2287
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 3: Behind the better mma legacy. Yeah, but he's stipulating what

2288
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 3: if they don't even fight?

2289
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 2: That's a fair question. First of all, before you answer that,

2290
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 2: did you see Dan Hooker shared a picture of or

2291
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 2: mentioned that Otto Sni is like two thirty and he

2292
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 2: doesn't want to spar to them and they showed them

2293
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 2: all jacked up.

2294
01:36:59,040 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 3: Yep, I love it.

2295
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 2: And as he's backs against the wall look like it

2296
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 2: was after that first poetican.

2297
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:04,799
Speaker 3: People keep people keep sleeping him. Now there are questions

2298
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 3: obviously at thirty four years of age, what's happening? A

2299
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:08,599
Speaker 3: lot of time off blah blah.

2300
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 2: Blah, And if he regains the middleweight title, what would

2301
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 2: be a third he'd be a three time champion. Yeah No,

2302
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 2: Poton's won titles and two divisions and would have a

2303
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 2: better record against him. I thought the question should have

2304
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 2: been if if.

2305
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 3: The question is that both. If is he wins the

2306
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 3: title again Poton defense and let's just say they're retired

2307
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 3: just like that thereafter, who has the better legacy? Well,

2308
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 3: the reality is Poton to an extent would have a

2309
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:32,480
Speaker 3: better legacy because of the division, jumping.

2310
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 2: And the head.

2311
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 3: However, however, I keep going to remind people of this

2312
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 3: the middleweight campaign is.

2313
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 2: Not close, like, oh no, no, no, he doesn't.

2314
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 3: He is a demonstrably more successful middleweight in every way, definitely.

2315
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 2: But I think the head to head is the difference

2316
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 2: maker to me. But I also think if he regains

2317
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 2: the title over DDP, that's has the fight to make

2318
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 2: at light heavyweight, isn't it?

2319
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 3: Or would you?

2320
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2321
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 3: You have to honestly, I think you so.

2322
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 2: The fight would be it would be style bender going

2323
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 2: a title in two divisions for a second time, and

2324
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 2: it would be the third MMA meeting and the fifth meeting.

2325
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 3: Yes, dude, that's a monster fight, huge fight, huge fight.

2326
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 3: I would also say though, that if as He gets

2327
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 3: the title back for the third time, having lived through

2328
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 3: Anderson Silva's title reign, that did feel more special. But

2329
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 3: getting it a third time is such a marker of

2330
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 3: like generational dominance.

2331
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 2: Or yeah, resiliency.

2332
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 3: It just means you're no but to have it and

2333
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 3: then to get it back again. Just the expanse of

2334
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 3: time that that takes, you have to be like, the

2335
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 3: difference between him and Silva at that point would be

2336
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 3: almost not quite almost negligible.

2337
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 2: I would be really sad if Robert Waker never wore

2338
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 2: UFC gold again. Do you think there's still and obviously

2339
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 2: there's still a window he's still in a position to

2340
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 2: do that. Does it happen though?

2341
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:53,600
Speaker 12: Me?

2342
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 2: He might be John John's you might have been onto

2343
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 2: something one day.

2344
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:00,720
Speaker 3: He might be old time dumbest call. All right, I

2345
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 3: think that's it.

2346
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 2: That's tough for answering my question, Luke.

2347
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't listening, oh about Robert Wiker winning gold?

2348
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2349
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it'd be all right.

2350
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 2: I mean, does it happen though?

2351
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 3: It ain't a fucking charity, man, this is not If.

2352
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 2: He writes the wrong against GDP, he says that was

2353
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 2: his worst night, he just felt flat, just nothing went

2354
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 2: his way. Does DDP do that to him a second time?

2355
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

2356
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 3: I believe that Robert Whittaker on his best day can

2357
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 3: beat anyone at middleweight? How about that? Questions are you

2358
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 3: going to get that?

2359
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 2: How many more best days does you have?

2360
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 3: That's the question exactly.

2361
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 2: Hey, here's what I did yesterday, guys. I scoured the

2362
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 2: globe for the good, the bad, the ugly, the in between,

2363
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 2: the highs and lows from combat sports and beyond, and

2364
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 2: we go far beyond. But I I I'm like half

2365
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 2: serious on that nine to eleven here. I'm not here

2366
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 2: to insult people. I know when I make the Dale

2367
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:45,759
Speaker 2: Senior jokes, people get really upset too. I mean, it's comedy,

2368
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 2: so you take that chance.

2369
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 3: But it's just a joke. I hope everyone understands it's

2370
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 3: I'm joking about that.

2371
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 2: Okay, this one's called maybe I should stand on my

2372
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 2: business more? Have you seen this ship?

2373
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 3: People?

2374
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 2: But I got a lot of hate for my Green

2375
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:09,599
Speaker 2: Day takes. I wasn't saying they're the worst band ever.

2376
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 2: I just said they're a little overrated. I like some

2377
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 2: of them too. I'm just not here to tell you

2378
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 2: that they're an A.

2379
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 3: List band, Like who's an A list band?

2380
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 2: Pearl Jam? Yeah, look, okay, the Rolling Stones?

2381
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 3: Ling Stones is a list I don't know. I mean

2382
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 3: I get Pearl Jam. I guess as pro Jam is

2383
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 3: rolling Stones are more iconic than Pearl Jam.

2384
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:33,600
Speaker 2: Right, of course, I'm not going on an icon is iconographic?

2385
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 2: Get to your you know you have you have another

2386
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 2: job or a train? Which one Luke or Osbourne?

2387
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:42,560
Speaker 1: Which?

2388
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:43,480
Speaker 2: Okay?

2389
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 3: Here we go, you Marina, I cannot believe that that

2390
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 3: name gets circulated at this stage of my life. I

2391
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 3: thought that was a one, one time offer at night.

2392
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 2: It's ufc Apex time. We got to give it up

2393
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 2: here for featherweights, Tider Emil and Lee Young Young rock them,

2394
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 2: sock them, Luke.

2395
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:00,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't want to hate on this fight. Everybody

2396
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 3: loves it.

2397
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 2: Was it was insanity, it was awesome.

2398
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is not my favorite thing about MMA.

2399
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 3: It's crazy, it's it's crazy, it's amazing, blah blah blah.

2400
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 3: But I just gotta tell you this is actually not

2401
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,639
Speaker 3: why I watch MMA. I actually like, i'd like violence,

2402
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 3: but this.

2403
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 2: Was your full mass after watching that though, right in

2404
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 2: a way, like, I mean, it's everything you want.

2405
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 5: It's so crazy, you can only MMA could feature something

2406
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:21,919
Speaker 5: like that basically.

2407
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 3: But I love it, but I did. Everyone else was like, ah,

2408
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 3: fucking girl, and I was like, it's cool, it's cool,

2409
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 3: but I don't know.

2410
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:30,839
Speaker 2: Bruno Silva gave us a good moment on the undercard

2411
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 2: against Cody Dirdan with this massive that was cut damn sick.

2412
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 3: What an uppercut. It leaned right into it. Good finishing

2413
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 3: instincts as well. Double jabdam boom said the mouthpiece fly

2414
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 3: there on this car. There was There was definitely some

2415
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 3: good They have so many good fighters. It's actually hard

2416
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 3: for a card to be uh, to have nothing on

2417
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 3: it of value. It's just that there's a lot of filler.

2418
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 2: All right, Well, lukey, it was a great performance by

2419
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 2: Bruno Silva. But rate the call out afterwards.

2420
01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 3: Donald J.

2421
01:41:58,960 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 1: Trump.

2422
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 3: Make them.

2423
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 1: My new nickname.

2424
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:05,639
Speaker 2: It's bonus bulldog Silva.

2425
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:08,839
Speaker 3: Say do you say make America grim?

2426
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:11,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think he's said. Bonus bulldog

2427
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 2: Silva is his new nickname. You get a chance after

2428
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 2: a big knockout, and and that's what he delivered. I was,

2429
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 2: I was, I was not impressed by his performance.

2430
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:19,600
Speaker 3: Didn't maximize the opportunity.

2431
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:21,639
Speaker 2: I know, at least sell me some crypto or something.

2432
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 2: I mean, please, let's keep it going here. Speaking of Trump,

2433
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 2: Luca a huge week for him on many levels. I know,

2434
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:31,680
Speaker 2: we're not allowed to repeat what he once said to

2435
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 2: Billy Bush, so now they do that for themselves. What

2436
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 2: the hell is going on here?

2437
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 3: I mean my understanding and I could be wrong about this.

2438
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 3: This is Kimberly Guilfoyle.

2439
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you're like, I've seen that snatch before.

2440
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 3: That's his son's wife.

2441
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I take that back. Okay, okay, maybe she had

2442
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:52,639
Speaker 2: to use the restroom.

2443
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 3: Maybe she just had itchy itchy balls.

2444
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 5: I don't know, Luke uh rate that tat ilicitate that

2445
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 5: Trump assassination.

2446
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:05,600
Speaker 3: Addition, for what is a remarkable photo, I would not

2447
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 3: call this a great demonstration of it.

2448
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:12,720
Speaker 2: It speaks of freedom though that left shoulders.

2449
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 3: For you, Luke, It certainly does. But I would say

2450
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 3: the photo better than the tattoo, right.

2451
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not a great tattoo go iconic moment by

2452
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 2: the way, on an iconic photo, but it'll live on

2453
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 2: this man's back for better or worse for life. Hey,

2454
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 2: Ko of the Week was given to us here as

2455
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 2: twenty year old Most Valuable Products Prospect Ashton H two

2456
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,679
Speaker 2: O Silv, the young boxer that Jake Paul has really

2457
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 2: built in a lot of ways the future of his

2458
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 2: Prospect series and promotion. On he beat he got lost

2459
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 2: to an unbeaten Canadian. Lucas Body and Luke Body had

2460
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:47,839
Speaker 2: basically lost every second of this fight, but the mistakes

2461
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,440
Speaker 2: here frohim. Silve really like he got comfortable.

2462
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 3: He got real comfortable, a lot of trunk movement, a

2463
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 3: lot of going square in order to do it. So

2464
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 3: watch he gets hit with the jab, then goes square

2465
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:59,560
Speaker 3: at boom and that's when he gets hot. So he

2466
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 3: had a easy jab and then he actually squared up

2467
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 3: with body by trying to get a little bit too clever.

2468
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 3: Boom boom.

2469
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 2: Damn.

2470
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 3: Just not great to say for a guy who has

2471
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 3: great I think athletic ability, and to your point, was

2472
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 3: dominating this fight. That is a really bad loss and

2473
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 3: it was unnecessary.

2474
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 2: Joe was like, God, bless him, we pray for your soul.

2475
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 2: Did you hear them say that. I've never heard that before.

2476
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:27,639
Speaker 3: I don't know if we have an ability to play

2477
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 3: it again. If not, you can skip it. But basically

2478
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 3: the referee at the end, why was the referee prohibiting.

2479
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 2: Him from let him cook? I don't know if the

2480
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 2: referee because of the potential injury. If he was, but

2481
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 2: it makes no sense because the referee is not going

2482
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:42,480
Speaker 2: to count.

2483
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 3: Watch the ref right there see that. It's just not

2484
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 3: clear why they were doing that. I've never really seen that.

2485
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 2: I'd have to guess that it was because of the

2486
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 2: of the scary situation. No, maybe the reference. You know,

2487
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 2: knowing that.

2488
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 3: Refs I will say, they don't like it when you

2489
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:56,600
Speaker 3: climb on the cage and if they probably don't love it,

2490
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 3: but you might.

2491
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 2: Be like, well, they climb the ropes in every boxing match,

2492
01:44:59,040 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 2: and also does it.

2493
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:03,639
Speaker 3: Tank David do a fucking back, So it's also it's

2494
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 3: Florida for Florida to draw the.

2495
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 1: Line of that.

2496
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 2: By the way, celebrities and attendance Hulk Hogan and Hawk Tua,

2497
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 2: by who I love? I'm falling in love with what's

2498
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:14,639
Speaker 2: her name?

2499
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 3: Somebody, somebody sent me a screenshot of her Instagram account

2500
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 3: and the only person that I follow that follows her

2501
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 3: is you.

2502
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 2: Because and it's not for all the reasons you assume.

2503
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 2: She has rebranded herself very quickly as like a really

2504
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 2: decent the.

2505
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 3: Girl who got famous making a joke about dick sucking.

2506
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 2: I've done the deep dive on her. It's a very

2507
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 2: refreshing turn of events that she's gotten this platform and

2508
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 2: she's given back.

2509
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 3: You see, she's we make jokes about dick sucking on

2510
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 3: this show. We have not gotten that famous yet.

2511
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.

2512
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that.

2513
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 2: Let's roll on here. Wild Week for car racing. Luke

2514
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 2: watched this guy get bodied during this wreck.

2515
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:55,679
Speaker 3: Dude, what the foo?

2516
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 1: Wow?

2517
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:58,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if he we have accidentally shown death

2518
01:45:58,800 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 2: on this show before.

2519
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 5: That's like one of those like you know, cardboard cars

2520
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 5: that you know, kids making like uh, you know, the

2521
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:05,839
Speaker 5: backyard for his science project.

2522
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what level this, but that is dangerous

2523
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,680
Speaker 2: for everybody involved. Look at those orange shirted Let me

2524
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 2: look at the dude. There was a dude in that

2525
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 2: truck that got hit too.

2526
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 3: Date. Let me ask a question. Have you ever seen

2527
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 3: these these bits where all of these like losers get

2528
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 3: together at night and then they're doing donuts in the road? Yes,

2529
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 3: and then it's uh.

2530
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 5: Someone always gets hit standing on the periphery by the car.

2531
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 5: Why does that person keep getting hit? Every video I

2532
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 5: see are two clowns doing donuts and then just mowing through.

2533
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 2: Remember the ghost ride the whip era that was great

2534
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 2: on Oh my god, what do we do, Luke, Let's

2535
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 2: keep the car racing wildness going. This is a throwback

2536
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty. The man's name is Doug Barnes Junior

2537
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 2: with a this is the lowest level of NASCAR and

2538
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 2: he did a flying drop kick to the front windshield.

2539
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 3: Was it Larry Holmes who did this to his part?

2540
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 2: Timing Luke throwback of a reminder of when Larry Holmes

2541
01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:58,599
Speaker 2: was going to fight Former two.

2542
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 3: Watch this ship Lara home.

2543
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 2: He hit me, he hit me. That's what Bourbick said.

2544
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:13,879
Speaker 3: Let's see that's the original Habib Dylan, long before Habib

2545
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 3: did that to Dylan Danis at two twenty nine.

2546
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 2: This was such an iconic moment. He ran across the

2547
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 2: hood of a car to deliver.

2548
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:23,639
Speaker 3: So fucking awesome. This is this is fantastic.

2549
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:25,840
Speaker 2: From the roof to the hood and the flying drop.

2550
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 2: And that was after they had already fought on the street.

2551
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 3: What happened to the boxing? I love what happened to

2552
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 3: the boxing? I love so good?

2553
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 2: So good? Well great, callback Hey, let's go to Father's

2554
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 2: Day basketball.

2555
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 5: For Father's Day, I'm gonna play basketball with my son.

2556
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 3: It seems like a bad idea. Have you seen that account?

2557
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 1: So good?

2558
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 2: It's so good?

2559
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 3: Have you seen that account on Instagram? Kids getting hurt?

2560
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 2: I do I try to avoid that because it makes

2561
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 2: you upset because of two Because when I play kids

2562
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 2: getting hurt on here, there are kids getting hurt.

2563
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 3: I have mixed feelings about kids.

2564
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 2: You know, we prefer elders. Luke, I got a new

2565
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 2: segment alert. It's called existential question of the week. Two

2566
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 2: million dollars cash right now.

2567
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 13: But you can never shit in a toilet again for

2568
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 13: the rest of your life, porta, potts, outhouses, none of them.

2569
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: You die immediately if you do. You taking it.

2570
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 2: That's an interesting class one. Two million dollars for the

2571
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 2: rest of your life. So you can only no say this,

2572
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 2: So we're saying you can only ship where outside.

2573
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 3: I guess yeahs as the only guy here in this

2574
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 3: fucking room who has ever had to use an entrenching

2575
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 3: tool to dig one of those fucking holes and ship

2576
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 3: in the woods for weeks on end without any break,

2577
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 3: a comfortable opportunity to ship.

2578
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:44,640
Speaker 2: And you shits third world style with the hole in

2579
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 2: the floor.

2580
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Anybody who underestimates the comfort level that comes with

2581
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 3: a first world ship is an idiot. I would take

2582
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 3: that over the rest of my life for two million

2583
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 3: dollars getting cash.

2584
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 2: Can usk ken he's an independent arbiter of this question.

2585
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:00,120
Speaker 6: Would you.

2586
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 2: Two million dollars never shit indoors again?

2587
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 6: He says no, he wouldn't take it.

2588
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:07,840
Speaker 3: Dude, you can't underestimate that.

2589
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm not taking the deal either. No deal, no deal,

2590
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 2: good I.

2591
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:12,600
Speaker 3: Thought it was. I'm I'm not kidding me. Seen the

2592
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 3: the last two or three years of my Marine Corps career,

2593
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 3: when we were doing work on the hill, we took

2594
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 3: a milk crate and we cut out the bottom of it,

2595
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:21,680
Speaker 3: and then we zip tied a toilet seat to the

2596
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 3: top of the milk crate. And at the time, I

2597
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 3: thought that was the most magical, like that was so

2598
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 3: much better than the alternative with using the entrenching tool.

2599
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 2: This is not a fun conversation.

2600
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 3: This question, to me is absurd.

2601
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 2: You know what I hate more than anything, stubbing my toe, Luke,

2602
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 2: you think all of my toes are discussing because of

2603
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 2: disrepaired athletes foot in just years of not caring, which

2604
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 2: is a decent argument. I stubbed my toes still to

2605
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 2: this day, every second, don't you do? Do you do

2606
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 2: that too, like running up the stairs and stuff at home?

2607
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 3: No, I don't walk around like a fucking good.

2608
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 2: I stubbed my toes constantly. Let's listen to the joke.

2609
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:53,879
Speaker 1: Of the week.

2610
01:49:53,960 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 2: What's worse than stubbing your toe? Li He's to be fair,

2611
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 2: He's right on, Luke. Not snubbing your toe does hurt though,

2612
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 2: really really bad. Hey, huge week for flatulence. Just the

2613
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 2: same though, watch this bit in the fast food drive

2614
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 2: through the.

2615
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 11: Drop that right there the money.

2616
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:35,679
Speaker 3: Okay, here's what I want to say abusing fast food workers.

2617
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:39,759
Speaker 3: There's better ways to do that gimmick.

2618
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,759
Speaker 5: I'll just say that the gimmick is funny, but there's better.

2619
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 2: Ways to do that. Incarcerated for that move.

2620
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 5: Incarcerated, no beating up a little bit.

2621
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 2: Maybe, all right, let's watch this incarcerated man.

2622
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 11: You're under arrest, so that's why you got hincuffs on. Okay,

2623
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 11: so you're say.

2624
01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:00,559
Speaker 5: You know what I think about that is that some

2625
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:02,600
Speaker 5: guy who I got pulled over for drunk driving and

2626
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 5: they had to take.

2627
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 2: Him to the hospital. Definitely, definitely all right, Another new

2628
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 2: segment of the week. This one's called The Weird and

2629
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 2: the Whites Luke. Let's listen in.

2630
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 11: All right, one of us is baked and one of

2631
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 11: us is ven baked.

2632
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 2: Guess guess, guess guess who who? If you thought that

2633
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 2: guy was weird, let's check out zebra cake over here, Benfry.

2634
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 2: A zebra cake with a strawberry milk is busting.

2635
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out.

2636
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 2: I think it's busting Luke.

2637
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 5: You know, a key criticism, a key criticism of democracy,

2638
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:42,839
Speaker 5: is that his vote is tantamount to yours.

2639
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:47,679
Speaker 3: That seems unfair. Oh yeah, seems unfair, Luke.

2640
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 2: I have a soft spot, you know, having gone through

2641
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:54,559
Speaker 2: a disastrous breakup of my life for petty break up revenge,

2642
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:56,560
Speaker 2: do you do? You have a certain soft spot in

2643
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 2: your you know, for when like the guy gets the

2644
01:51:58,240 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 2: comeback for in some stupid way.

2645
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 3: I used to care about this. I don't care at

2646
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 3: all about this all right.

2647
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:04,720
Speaker 2: Here might be the best idea for breakup revenge that

2648
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 2: I've ever seen.

2649
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 13: Acan's mother has been forced to block dozens of calls

2650
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 13: after her ex partner allegedly took her phone number and

2651
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 13: plastered on polls here around the CBD telling people to

2652
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 13: call up and impersonate Chew Baker for a chance to

2653
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 13: win one hundred dollars.

2654
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 11: This should be the most childish breakup I've ever heard.

2655
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 10: Like all we had to do was be mature and

2656
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 10: go I don't love you anymore.

2657
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 11: I want to move on.

2658
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:30,639
Speaker 13: The calls have been waking her and her three young

2659
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 13: children up at odd hours in the evening, and they

2660
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 13: yet to stop.

2661
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 1: I one five hundred flack.

2662
01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 3: Well, I'm getting phone calls at really strange hours of

2663
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:46,600
Speaker 3: the night, about one o'clock till four o'clock.

2664
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 13: Forced to call back the wanna be wookies and tear

2665
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 13: down the posters.

2666
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 3: It just seems oh okay, as wal to point out,

2667
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 3: that's hilarious. That's absolutely hysterical. Today you've shown me children

2668
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:01,800
Speaker 3: getting hurt, fast food workers being farted on, and a

2669
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 3: woman being unfairly harassed.

2670
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 2: At a really ill placed nine to eleven joke. Hey, Luke,

2671
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 2: people say it's dangerous to be an NFL fan these days,

2672
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 2: you'd say, right to sit in the crowd.

2673
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're an NFL fan, you're probably a degenerate.

2674
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 2: No one ever talks about baseball, Luke. Watch this home

2675
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:22,639
Speaker 2: run Land won to the dome for Tucker right there, Luke.

2676
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 2: Fucking hell damn, let's go to show. Hey Otani the

2677
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 2: new babe Ruth.

2678
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 3: Luke, he's a fucking beast.

2679
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 2: You said we don't like when children get abused on

2680
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 2: this show. Watch this Homer, dude, he is a fucking

2681
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:37,680
Speaker 2: He owes this young child an apology?

2682
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:44,560
Speaker 3: Luke. All right, let's see bab Hold that did you

2683
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:46,640
Speaker 3: see he correct me if I'm wrong. I think he

2684
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 3: hit a home run four hundred and seventy eight feet

2685
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 3: over the weekend.

2686
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 2: And then probably threw a shout out nine five hitter.

2687
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:54,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's not pitching. I think he's

2688
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 3: just hitting this year.

2689
01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 2: But oh, I've not even been watching it all. Yeah,

2690
01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:59,880
Speaker 2: he's an incredible talent. If we had kids get hurt,

2691
01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 2: we better pay it back with some elder abuse related

2692
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:08,759
Speaker 2: to this. Watch this home run. Oh Jesus, dude, Grahams

2693
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 2: did bring a glove to the game, Luke, you know

2694
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 2: what I mean.

2695
01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 3: You're bringing the glove.

2696
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 2: You better use it, Grams.

2697
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 5: I know, look alive here.

2698
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 3: Did you know he caught that? He caught that like Tuki?

2699
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:21,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, with his eyeball.

2700
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you would be surprised.

2701
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 2: You know.

2702
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 3: You know what I will tell you. It is so

2703
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 3: difficult as a parent trying to explain to your kid

2704
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 3: to move their hand to catch the ball, right. Yeah,

2705
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:33,360
Speaker 3: they don't understand that.

2706
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 5: They just put their hand into the ball goes flying,

2707
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 5: and if it hits them in the face because it's

2708
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 5: you know, you're throwing it right to them, they just.

2709
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 3: Let it go right past that.

2710
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the kids are idiots for the best part.

2711
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 2: But let's get past that. Hey, no, sayah said. This

2712
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 2: came from the tough season where Tim Elliott became a

2713
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 2: title challenger at one twenty five. I watched this coaching advice.

2714
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 2: I never saw this. Suck him up, suck him up,

2715
01:54:56,240 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 2: get him flat. Look, you know I've heard people run

2716
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 2: the pipe after a high sea crotch after a high crotch,

2717
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 2: But what can you explain Suck him off?

2718
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 3: I think he's saying to pull him off the cage.

2719
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 3: Suck him off the cage.

2720
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's first getting north south and then off.

2721
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 5: And they said that this sport is not homo erotic.

2722
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 5: It's the most homo erotic.

2723
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 2: Look. People from Maine are real weird. That's what they're

2724
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 2: called maniacs. I respect them to a degree, but they're weird.

2725
01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 2: But they have the best license plates ever. Look at

2726
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 2: this one.

2727
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:26,440
Speaker 3: Luke Tittiest is a great one.

2728
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, let's go to the next vanity plate.

2729
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 2: And finally, Luke.

2730
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 3: You come first. They are nice, it's very friendly.

2731
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 2: Of yes, is hitchhiking still a thing where you're from?

2732
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 3: So you know what I actually listened to a podcast

2733
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,480
Speaker 3: about the like the y serial killers have like declined

2734
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:49,920
Speaker 3: in number, and one of the major reasons is they

2735
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 3: described the society in the nineteen sixties as a latch

2736
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 3: key society. More prostitutes and hitchhikers, drifters. People don't do

2737
01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:57,120
Speaker 3: that anymore.

2738
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 2: Well, let's watch this bit.

2739
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:08,440
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, hold on, hold on?

2740
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 2: How far away are we for racial humor? We're not close.

2741
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 2: We're not close to all week? Can we not into

2742
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 2: like what you're like?

2743
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 3: Okay, you know you know who's.

2744
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 2: Gonna get it on today's show, Women.

2745
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 1: The Dead.

2746
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 2: While speaking of the dead, let's watch this.

2747
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:29,520
Speaker 12: So every time I see my crop probably play rock

2748
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 12: paper scissors, and it's so cute because he always chooses

2749
01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 12: rock first.

2750
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 2: Okay, here he is.

2751
01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:35,920
Speaker 3: I'll record it for you guys, you can see it.

2752
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 2: Come on, come with me down in this journey Louke.

2753
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 1: Come on.

2754
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 5: Okay, she did that well, Okay, she did that well.

2755
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:53,960
Speaker 5: She made good use of his h his grave there.

2756
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 2: Uh no, let's yeah. Can we do the up the

2757
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 2: plant one next? All right, let's watch this. Look we

2758
01:56:59,600 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 2: got too.

2759
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,040
Speaker 3: You are not gonna believe what happens when you give

2760
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 3: a plant coffee instead of water.

2761
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:16,040
Speaker 5: Dude, this show, this segment has turned into your Instagram

2762
01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 5: d ms or everyone just sends you meme And finally, Luke.

2763
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:22,680
Speaker 2: This was you or this will be you. Sorry when

2764
01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 2: you get home from the family vacation in Colombia.

2765
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 9: I haven't jerked off today day when I blow my

2766
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 9: lag tonight, just what it's gonna look like?

2767
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:36,879
Speaker 3: Dude, Look at what the fuck am I watching?

2768
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 2: America?

2769
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 3: Why is he built like a crab?

2770
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

2771
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 2: Look that's the future of your coach ry Okay, and

2772
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:56,320
Speaker 2: that's the show of the week. I hope you enjoyed it.

2773
01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:56,880
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2774
01:57:57,720 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 3: Well, you know who took a beating on today's show,

2775
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 3: White track, Well we get that, Like, why don't you

2776
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 3: do the same to the other races?

2777
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:05,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke, there's more there's more white people

2778
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 2: in this country, so there's more white people getting hurt in.

2779
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 3: This also, like, you know, it's there's a I mean,

2780
01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 3: it's a there's a lot of material, there's a lot

2781
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:13,920
Speaker 3: of material.

2782
01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:15,160
Speaker 2: There's a lot of material to work with.

2783
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 3: And I'm you know, people feel like people feel like

2784
01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:20,480
Speaker 3: racial humor, Like didn't get it's it's due guys. We

2785
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 3: grew up with Andrew Dice Clay. Trust me, people have

2786
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 3: done it. Yeah, they've done it. They've done it. There's

2787
01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 3: I mean, we grew up with Archie Bunker too. It's

2788
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 3: some yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like we heard

2789
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 3: like you know, we've heard all that stuff.

2790
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 2: We're just we're kind of hoping that stuff is going away,

2791
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 2: you know.

2792
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 5: Well, I mean there's somebody, yes, Like I'm just telling

2793
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 5: you it's been tried.

2794
01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 2: Unless it's artfully done tastefully.

2795
01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. And then listen, there's always a role

2796
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 3: for some version of that kind of humor. I'm typically

2797
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 3: pointing out we have lived through a world where people

2798
01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 3: went through all the paces on that one. Yeah, and

2799
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 3: so we just like our safe little world we can

2800
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:52,640
Speaker 3: make fun of our neighbors.

2801
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:55,800
Speaker 2: Guess how many which is the Columbian dollar, by the way,

2802
01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 2: the pay so yeah, look at me. I guess how

2803
01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:00,760
Speaker 2: much it costs people to watch our UFC three four preview?

2804
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 3: How about zero? Yeah?

2805
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, just cost your your tolerance. Yeah that's about it.

2806
01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. So we'll have that up for you

2807
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 3: guys that will do a three or four preview.

2808
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:12,120
Speaker 2: To be finn, Let's hit these bridges right where they

2809
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:13,720
Speaker 2: where they deserve it and they like it.

2810
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to go back and rewatch the last

2811
01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 3: time they did the show at like five a m. Yeah,

2812
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 3: with the bisping and rematch sort of sea.

2813
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:24,360
Speaker 2: Which had no business being that fun of a fight.

2814
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 2: By the way, it wasn't.

2815
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:27,040
Speaker 3: Okay fight, it was. It was a fine fight. It

2816
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:27,920
Speaker 3: was obviously more competitive.

2817
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:29,920
Speaker 2: Two big moments. I guess I'm referencing right where Hendo

2818
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 2: looked like he was on the verge of getting a

2819
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:32,400
Speaker 2: huge knockout twice.

2820
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:34,800
Speaker 3: Yes, and Michael just would have characteristically outworked.

2821
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:35,680
Speaker 2: What was that noise?

2822
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 3: That was not me? That's them doing the repairs. I

2823
01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:39,920
Speaker 3: swear to God, it's not me. Look, when do I

2824
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:41,120
Speaker 3: ever disguise my farting?

2825
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 2: I thought it was like that drive through windows.

2826
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 3: People act like I'm trying to be surreptitious about it,

2827
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:48,480
Speaker 3: like I'm sorry, I am, I'm blatant.

2828
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 2: I'll just do it audibly. I don't care at all.

2829
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 2: The problem I have is when you do it around

2830
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:54,480
Speaker 2: my exposed food. That's a bridge too far.

2831
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 3: I don't think I do that.

2832
01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:57,920
Speaker 2: We don't ever, we don't hang out eating. For this

2833
01:59:58,000 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 2: to be a problem that you have to suffer through

2834
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:02,440
Speaker 2: are you going to for Kamala or no, that's the question.

2835
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:08,520
Speaker 3: Probably not, but I have no idea. Kamala, Kamala right right, Kamala.

2836
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 2: Sorry I was told I can't say Kamala.

2837
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:12,800
Speaker 3: I don't think it's it's This is why.

2838
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:15,520
Speaker 2: Although Kamala the've Gonda Giant was wearing a shirt that's

2839
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:17,520
Speaker 2: aid like a political shirt.

2840
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 3: This is where the English language not having accents kinds

2841
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:21,560
Speaker 3: of screw you because you don't know how to pronounce

2842
02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 3: certain things that way. But anyway, all right, so let's

2843
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 3: remind everybody merch Morningcombat dot store. For anybody who's still

2844
02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:29,520
Speaker 3: watching this, you can go and get ten percent off,

2845
02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:31,200
Speaker 3: maybe with a life ten. I don't have no fucking idea.

2846
02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:32,480
Speaker 3: Do we still do that?

2847
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably what let's do a I'll sign off on it, okay,

2848
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:38,320
Speaker 2: credits on that.

2849
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 3: I've can follow us on the socials out there. Morning

2850
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:43,480
Speaker 3: Combat is everywhere, and there's mine. I'm Luke Thomas.

2851
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:45,520
Speaker 2: That, of course, is I want to do again with you.

2852
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:48,920
Speaker 2: Go on the road to a big fight, cover the

2853
02:00:48,920 --> 02:00:53,160
Speaker 2: ship out of it, and then do like a real RSD.

2854
02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 3: I was gonna say post fight. I like postfight best

2855
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:59,440
Speaker 3: posts of all the things that I do. Postfight's my

2856
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:02,160
Speaker 3: favorite thing on location, post on location. Yeah.

2857
02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:04,120
Speaker 2: Do you know what was a really fun week in

2858
02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:07,440
Speaker 2: hindsight of material? We did that Phoenix week for Jake

2859
02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:10,879
Speaker 2: Paul versus Anderson Silva. Yeah, we did the pregame preview

2860
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:14,280
Speaker 2: in the hotel room with Shaan Alshaddi and Danny Sakura.

2861
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:17,280
Speaker 2: I watched that recently randomly on YouTube. I was flipping around.

2862
02:01:17,280 --> 02:01:18,640
Speaker 2: That was hilarious. That great.

2863
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:20,760
Speaker 3: We've been trying, We've been hustling.

2864
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a hustler, baby. I just want you to know.

2865
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:26,400
Speaker 3: I hope I sleep tonight. I would like to sleep tonight.

2866
02:01:26,440 --> 02:01:30,800
Speaker 3: I haven't slept in days. I would like to. Yes,

2867
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:33,800
Speaker 3: we had a big talk about it before the show.

2868
02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:36,080
Speaker 2: I was going to say, Cobra Kai season six is out,

2869
02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:37,240
Speaker 2: but you don't care. You really don't.

2870
02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:39,400
Speaker 3: Again, the lives of teenagers are not interesting.

2871
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:41,200
Speaker 2: They're jumping the shark aggressively.

2872
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:42,840
Speaker 3: This season, they jumped the shark pretty quickly.

2873
02:01:43,080 --> 02:01:45,040
Speaker 2: You've watched anything, you have no idea how good that

2874
02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:45,440
Speaker 2: show is.

2875
02:01:45,800 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 3: I watched the first full season, and then I got

2876
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:50,080
Speaker 3: into the second season and I realized, right, I don't

2877
02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:53,560
Speaker 3: care about the lives of teenagers. Are not interesting. People

2878
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:58,000
Speaker 3: by and large tell that. No Romeo and Julie.

2879
02:01:58,120 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 2: I was told I can't stands anymore?

2880
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:03,200
Speaker 3: Okay with the Nstein jokes.

2881
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,880
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, what people stop caring about that all

2882
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 5: of a sudden. Huh yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

2883
02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:10,840
Speaker 2: I mean when when Pat Tillman jokes are back, Luke,

2884
02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 2: I'll be back in a big Wayoul. I want to

2885
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:15,680
Speaker 2: show time legal to know. Okay, there you go.

2886
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:19,600
Speaker 3: Of all the things that caused us headaches, that is

2887
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:20,720
Speaker 3: literally top three.

2888
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:22,600
Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, speaking three, do you remember the

2889
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:25,480
Speaker 2: guy that was in that documentary, Greg Kelly? Yes, him

2890
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 2: and uh Gabriel there. I believe they gave birth to

2891
02:02:28,160 --> 02:02:28,760
Speaker 2: their first child.

2892
02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:32,520
Speaker 3: Amazing, incredible story. Actually that was really cool documentary. All right,

2893
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:35,560
Speaker 3: So anything else to remind them? Three or four on Friday?

2894
02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:38,160
Speaker 2: Joke going on. So not a lot of day. I

2895
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:40,240
Speaker 2: can't tell you I'll be at the laugh factory or anything. Looke,

2896
02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:41,280
Speaker 2: not a lot going on.

2897
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:44,160
Speaker 3: You catch him at a door dash order.

2898
02:02:44,040 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 2: In Arising Star.

2899
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2900
02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm coming to the UK, though, but don't bother me.

2901
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm there with my family.

2902
02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:51,480
Speaker 3: Uh no, sea plug what you got. Let the folks

2903
02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:53,919
Speaker 3: know what you're doing. Also, you're a gambling degenerate.

2904
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:57,800
Speaker 12: Shout out everyone, Come watch main cardment and on YouTube breakdowns,

2905
02:02:57,800 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 12: watch alongs all that funf.

2906
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:03,360
Speaker 2: Who's the most entertaining besides yourself? Guest in the MK

2907
02:03:03,440 --> 02:03:05,800
Speaker 2: Extended Universe that the fan should go out of their

2908
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 2: way to watch your podcast.

2909
02:03:07,160 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 6: To watch it's got to be gaff.

2910
02:03:08,680 --> 02:03:08,960
Speaker 3: You can't.

2911
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:14,080
Speaker 6: You cannot smile when gas.

2912
02:03:12,200 --> 02:03:14,200
Speaker 5: He sent me some d ms over the weekend for

2913
02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:17,120
Speaker 5: some tattoos he saw nice. One of my opinion, I mean,

2914
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:19,160
Speaker 5: he got our show tattooed on his arm. That's incredible,

2915
02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 5: that's insane. That's so much better than Tristan getting like raccoons.

2916
02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:24,000
Speaker 2: And just getting animals.

2917
02:03:24,040 --> 02:03:24,240
Speaker 3: You know.

2918
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:27,440
Speaker 2: By the way, I'll say this, Tristan's an underrated hang man.

2919
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:29,320
Speaker 2: You won't because you don't like people say you will

2920
02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:29,920
Speaker 2: never hang out with them.

2921
02:03:30,120 --> 02:03:31,760
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this much. He is very good with

2922
02:03:31,800 --> 02:03:37,320
Speaker 3: a box cutter. And with that, we're done. That's right.

2923
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:41,640
Speaker 5: It's worse than a starterard your to morning combat.

2924
02:03:42,040 --> 02:03:43,440
Speaker 3: We'll see all next time. Pease,