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Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here

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Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today, Karen.

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Speaker 3: Fighting between Israel and Iran is now into its fourth

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Speaker 3: day with no sign of easing. Iran has fired several

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Speaker 3: waves of drones and missiles over the last twenty four hours,

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Speaker 3: while Israel continued hitting the Islamic Republic's capital, Tehran, killing

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Speaker 3: one more senior military official Stuart Livingston Wallace heads are

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Speaker 3: Middle East coverage.

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Speaker 4: It's a combination of what appear to be very precise

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Speaker 4: strikes by Israel on Iranian targets, and that largely encompasses

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Speaker 4: nuclear sides military sites. And it does appear at this

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Speaker 4: stage and given everything we've seen over the last four days,

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Speaker 4: that Israel now more or less has a free hand

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Speaker 4: within Iran, and it's been quite surprising, I suppose, how

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Speaker 4: little response Iran seems to have those strikes. And then

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Speaker 4: on the other side, it's been sort of throwing back

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Speaker 4: ballistic missiles and drones in very large quantities, and that

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Speaker 4: seems to be a lot less precise, I mean largely

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Speaker 4: the strategy there seems to be to try and overwhelm

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Speaker 3: Bloomberg, Stewart Livingston Wallace reports the casualty toll is rising.

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Speaker 3: Iran's government says two hundred twenty four people have been killed,

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Speaker 3: while Israel says Iranian attacks killed twenty three people and

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Speaker 3: injured more than four hundred well Nathan.

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Speaker 2: President Trump says he believes Israel and Iran could eventually

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Speaker 2: reach a peace agreement, but suggested they may have to

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Speaker 2: continue their conflict before coming to the negotiating table. The

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Speaker 2: President spoke to reporters as he prepared to board Marine one.

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Speaker 5: I think it's time for a deal, and we'll see

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Speaker 5: what happens.

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Speaker 6: But sometimes they have to fight it out. But we're

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Speaker 6: going to see what happens.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a good chance he'll.

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Speaker 2: Be a deal, President Trump, speaking before he left to

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Speaker 2: attend the G seven summit in Canada. The conflict threatens

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Speaker 2: to open a new rift at the high level gathering

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Speaker 2: of world leaders. We get more from Bloomberg. There's David

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Speaker 2: Gura in Alberta, Canada.

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Speaker 7: Conflict in the Middle East is casting a shadow over

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Speaker 7: this meeting of the Group of Seven, even if it

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Speaker 7: hasn't scuttled the official agenda. Several world leaders have called

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Speaker 7: on Iran and Israel to de escalate the situation, and

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Speaker 7: it's unclear if the group will issue a formal statement

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Speaker 7: on the conflict. A broader joint communicate is not in

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Speaker 7: the cards. Prime Minister Mark Carney is being careful not

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Speaker 7: to upset President Trump, who withdrew from that agreement the

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Speaker 7: last time Canada hosted the G seven in twenty eighteen

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Speaker 7: in baff Alberta, Canada.

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Speaker 8: I'm David Gura, Bloomberg Radio. All right, David, thank you.

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Speaker 3: President Trump appears to be doubling down on his mass

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Speaker 3: deportation policy after a weekend of protests across the country.

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Speaker 3: In a truth social post last night, the President called

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Speaker 3: on ICE agents to expand deportations in the largest US cities,

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Speaker 3: including Los Angeles, New York, and Chicago. Democratic Senator Alex

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Speaker 3: Padia of California says the raids are going too far

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Speaker 3: for all.

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Speaker 9: To talk about the focus and targeting of violent criminals.

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Speaker 9: If that's all the Trump administration was doing, there would

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Speaker 9: be not debate. As you're hearing more and more stories

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Speaker 9: of undocumented long term resident of the United States were

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Speaker 3: California Senator Alex Padia appeared on CBS's Face the Nation

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Speaker 3: heard Sundays on Bloomberg Radio. Last week, President Trump appeared

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Speaker 3: to acknowledge the impact his policies have had on rural

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Speaker 3: communities and promised changes to protect farm and hotel workers.

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Speaker 1: Nathan.

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Speaker 2: A manhunt that lasted much of the weekend is over

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Speaker 2: in Minnesota. Suspect is in custody and the killing of

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Speaker 2: Democratic state lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband and the

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Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walld says the suspect, fifty seven year old

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Speaker 2: Van Spoulterer, was arrested after a trail camera picked him

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Speaker 2: up near his farm. The FBI had been offering fifty

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Speaker 10: To the law enforcement who stand here and the hundreds

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Speaker 10: who were involved in this, the State of Minnesota owes

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Speaker 10: you a deep gread of gratitude. Thank you, you ran

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Speaker 2: Governor wals announced the arrest last night. Authorities are still

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Speaker 2: investigating a motive behind the attack. A government document seen

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Speaker 2: by Bloomberg News points to a purported hit list at

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Speaker 2: the crime scene that included the names of several Minnesota

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Speaker 2: politicians and abortion providers in the state.

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Speaker 3: Karen, let's turn to markets now. Futures are higher as

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Speaker 3: we kick off a new trading week, a week that

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Speaker 3: will be highlighted by a Fed decision. It's bringing Bloomberg

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Speaker 3: John Tucker with the very latest, John, good Morning.

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Speaker 11: And Nathan. The Central Bank concludes it's two day meeting

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Speaker 11: on Wednesday. This is expected to hold rates steady this meeting,

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Speaker 11: but there could be some change in tone about possible

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Speaker 11: future cuts at Chairman Jerome Powell's press conference that follows

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Speaker 11: the meeting. Robert Dishner is with Newburger Berman.

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Speaker 3: We're still of the belief the Fed's going to cut

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Speaker 3: twice this year. The forecast may move down to one

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Speaker 3: cut this year, But does then the Fed give the

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Speaker 8: Do they increase that to three cuts next year?

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Speaker 11: Well, policy makers have been pretty clear before they could

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Speaker 11: make a move beneath the White House to resolve the

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Speaker 11: big question marks around Tarff's immigration and taxes. It is

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Speaker 11: there's a tax on a RN have also introduced another

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Speaker 11: element of uncertainty. Well, the FED meeting comes as President

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Speaker 11: Trump has turned up the pressure on Jerome Pal to

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Speaker 11: lower rates. A fourth straight meeting without a cut could

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Speaker 11: provoke another tie rate from the President, got to York,

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Speaker 11: Come John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 2: John, thank you. In sports, it was quite a memorable

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Speaker 2: finish at the US Open in Oakmont. Let's spring in

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Speaker 2: Bloomberg Sports reporter John stash Hour with the dramatic details.

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Speaker 8: John, Good morning, Mary Karen.

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Speaker 6: It was an Open where all the golfers struggled against

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Speaker 6: the mighty Oakmont course, but it ended with a remarkable

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Speaker 6: sixty five foot pot on the last hole for the win.

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Speaker 8: JJ Spon fall up and over the ridge. It's on

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Speaker 8: a very good line, just could go in J J

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Speaker 8: Spon makes sense. It's the biggest one in his career.

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Speaker 3: JJ Spon conquers Oakmont And as you're one hundred and

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Speaker 3: twenty fifth US Open champion.

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Speaker 6: US Open Radio, I had the call that was the

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Speaker 6: left Spawn with the only underpar score and unlikely Open champion.

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Speaker 6: He only won one PGA tournament in his career. Well

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Speaker 6: here from him, coming up shortly, John Stashieware Bloomberg Sports.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it got to be one of the loudest golf

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Speaker 3: calls I've heard in quite some time. Thank you for that, John.

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Speaker 3: Back to markets now, we're watching shares of Caring. They

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Speaker 3: owner of the struggling Gucci fashion label is preparing to

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Speaker 3: name the chief executive officer of Renault as its next

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Speaker 3: learned that Luca Demeyo is going to be appointed to

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Speaker 3: they are down more than seven percent.

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Speaker 2: Nathan, another activist investor, is seeking changes at Victoria's secret.

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Speaker 2: Bloomberg News has learned Barrington Capitol Group, which has built

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Speaker 2: a stake in the lingerie retailer, plans to push for

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Speaker 2: a board overhaul. Earlier this month, one of Victoria's secrets.

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Speaker 2: The largest investors BBRC International, also called for me board

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Speaker 3: Back in this country. Shares of Serepta Therapeutics. They are

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Speaker 3: down more than thirty six percent. That company paused a

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Speaker 8: And it's time now for a.

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Speaker 2: Look at some of their stories making news in New

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Speaker 2: by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, Good Morning.

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Speaker 12: Good Morning Karen. More than two thousand nationwide so called

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Speaker 12: No Kings events were held over the weekend. While most

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Speaker 12: what started out as a peaceful protest turned into chaos.

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Speaker 12: There were confrontations between police and protesters in Portland, Oregon,

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Speaker 12: in Washington State, and in Atlanta. In Los Angeles, police

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Speaker 12: in Canada, President Trump credited National Guard troops he activated

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Speaker 2: They come and.

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Speaker 6: They check, and they say, is the National Guard.

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Speaker 12: Going to be there?

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Speaker 12: Meanwhile, the Mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass, credits the

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Speaker 12: Heavy rain has killed at least five people in West Virginia,

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Speaker 12: Today and half the governor says several more people are missing.

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Speaker 12: Democratic National Committee. According to The New York Times, it's

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Speaker 2: All right, Michael barr thank you. It's time now for

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Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Sports Update. It's brought to you by Flushing

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Speaker 2: Bank and we bring in John Stanshauer.

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Speaker 8: John, good morning again, Thanks Aaron.

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Speaker 6: JJ Spahn had been a top or near the top

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Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hagar on another morning of intense

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Speaker 3: fighting between Israel and Iran. The hostilities have stretched into

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Speaker 11: We can't have the world's most dangerous regime have the

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Speaker 14: We're protecting ourselves, but by doing so, we're protecting many others.

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Speaker 3: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Natanya, who's speaking there for the

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Speaker 3: Jumana Burceci joining us from Dubai this morning. Good morning

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Speaker 3: to both of you. Ethan, I'll start off with you

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning Nathan.

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Speaker 14: Yes, there were some fairly serious a missile of barraz

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Speaker 8: I think a look.

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Speaker 5: Beyond that. Israel has been attacking increasingly. It says it

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Speaker 3: And Jumana. What is the extent as far as we

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Speaker 15: Yeah, if you look at the approach that Israel's Air

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Speaker 15: So an operational success if you want to call it

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Speaker 8: And so from a military.

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Speaker 15: Standpoint, defense standpoints, and also intelligence standpoint, you could say

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Speaker 3: Just hearing from Israeli sources that they claim that they've

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Speaker 3: achieved aerial superiority now over Tehran Ethan. Of course, we've

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Speaker 14: I mean, the problem is that Israel alone cannot take

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Speaker 14: But it seems unlikely that they could get into Florida,

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Speaker 14: hard to tell. I'm being told that there's intense diplomatic

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Speaker 14: But just today, this National Scurity Advisor it is we're

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Speaker 3: Juwana, From your perspective, what is the possibility of a

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and I mean also in that same post, President

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Speaker 8: The energy infrastructure.

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Speaker 15: Yes, there were a few facilities that were set alight

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Speaker 3: From your perspective, Ethan, what are you seeing in terms

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Speaker 14: Yes, Look, I mean I think that there is a

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Speaker 14: I think that Israeli and a US interests do overlap

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Speaker 14: So a lot, but I think, but the point is

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Speaker 3: Jumana Iran is reportedly moving toward no longer following the

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Speaker 8: So all of that is up for question now.

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Speaker 14: Log it might, But the truth is that what's strike

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Speaker 14: So one of the main reasons Israel shows to act now,

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