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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 2: Wants to bring in Lewis Riddick from the mother Ship.

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Speaker 2: He'll be on the call for Miami at Pittsburgh Saturday

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Speaker 2: neon Eastern on ABC. What'd you make of that back

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Speaker 2: and forth there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Lane, man, that's Lane just trying to trying

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Speaker 3: to deflect the questions and not answer him until he,

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Speaker 3: you know, drops his decision on the rest of us.

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Speaker 3: As far as we know what exactly it is that

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Speaker 3: he's planning on doing. You know, it's a look, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know what. Look, I've talked to Lane Dan many

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Speaker 3: many times. We cover a bunch of their games. I

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Speaker 3: really like the guy, developed a friendship with him. He's

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Speaker 3: been really good to me as far as, you know,

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Speaker 3: the information that we need to do our jobs. But look,

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Speaker 3: Lane right now is trying to make the best decision

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Speaker 3: for his football career and the college football you know, schedule,

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Speaker 3: as far as when coaches can be talked to, when

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Speaker 3: coaches can be hired, you know, as when you kind

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Speaker 3: of compare it to the end, I feel it's.

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Speaker 4: Just screwed up.

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Speaker 3: He's in a situation right now where really he can't win.

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Speaker 3: He could make it simpler, you know, if his decision

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Speaker 3: was simply just to go back to Old Miss. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he could obviously simplify this whole thing and put this

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Speaker 3: the whole thing the rest. As far as you know,

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Speaker 3: the speculation surrounding his job, obviously it leads you to

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Speaker 3: believe that you know he hasn't made a decision, or

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Speaker 3: that he's made a decision that maybe that is going

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Speaker 3: to cause a little bit of let's just say, controversy

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Speaker 3: as far as maybe what he decides to do. But

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Speaker 3: I think we're all just gonna have to sit and

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Speaker 3: wait right now. And you can tell he's having a

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Speaker 3: hard time trying to keep people off his back until

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Speaker 3: he actually does make his decision and make it known.

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Speaker 3: And it's tough, man, it's tough being in the situation

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Speaker 3: that he's in. I don't envy him because I can understand,

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Speaker 3: as far as you know, him trying to make a

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Speaker 3: decision that he feels as though it was going to

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Speaker 3: set him up to be a national championship winning head

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Speaker 3: coach at some point down the line. And that doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean necessarily that he can't get that done at Old Miss,

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Speaker 3: but just right now. He's not willing to let us

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Speaker 3: in on where he's heading with this thing.

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Speaker 2: And let's say he goes either lash or Florida. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: would you let him coach ole Miss in the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: I'd have a hard time doing it. I really would,

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Speaker 3: because obviously it wouldn't be fair to you know, to

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Speaker 3: his players right now that he has the roster that

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Speaker 3: he has assembled right now.

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Speaker 2: But he does give you the best chance too.

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Speaker 3: Of course it does. And look, I think what it is.

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Speaker 3: It's it's kind of like it's kind of like an

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Speaker 3: ethics discussion, I guess you you would say here, like,

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Speaker 3: does he does he have to right to coach a

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Speaker 3: team up until the very end, up until they get

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Speaker 3: knocked out of it? Given the fact that he is,

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Speaker 3: in essence kind of decided, hey, look, this isn't the

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Speaker 3: team ultimately that I want to coach, and that down

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Speaker 3: the line, I'm looking to move on and go to

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Speaker 3: a different place.

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Speaker 5: I think that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, if you're if you're the sitting athletic

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Speaker 3: director or the sitting president of of Ole Miss and

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Speaker 3: he let's just say he did decide to go to

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Speaker 3: a different place, Yeah, I would have a hard time

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Speaker 3: I would have a hard time letting him continue to

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Speaker 3: coach the team, although although he gives the team the

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Speaker 3: best chance to win a national title with him leading

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Speaker 3: the charge. Of course, Yeah, it's it's a it's a

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Speaker 3: very tough it's a tough situation for everyone involved here, man,

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Speaker 3: and I would not want to be in it. And somehow,

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Speaker 3: some way, the NCAA has to kind of change up

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Speaker 3: the structure so where you don't you don't have coaches

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Speaker 3: being put in this situation, and most importantly, you don't

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Speaker 3: have players and teams being put in this situation.

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Speaker 2: There was an incident during the Niners game against the

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Speaker 2: Panthers when Juwan Jennings got hit in the groin and

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Speaker 2: he was hit by Trayvon Mullrig. Okay, and then after

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Speaker 2: the game he took a swing at Moullrig and then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, people are like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: what's what happened here? And then we saw the video

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Speaker 2: where he gets hit in the groin. Yeah, what's worse

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Speaker 2: getting hit in the groin or somebody's spitting in your face?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think look, someone spitting in your face. I

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Speaker 3: think you've heard many people talk about this, Dan I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's the ultimate. It's the ultimate show of disrespect, getting

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Speaker 3: hit in the groin, someone purposely taking a shot. You're going, Look, it's.

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Speaker 5: All the same to me.

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Speaker 3: When someone's trying to butt you, know, to hurt you

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Speaker 3: in a very meaningful way, and when someone's trying to

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Speaker 3: disrespect you in a very meaningful way. Look, those those

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Speaker 3: are just lines you just don't cross on the football field,

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Speaker 3: and all things, all bets are off after that, they

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Speaker 3: just are. I think Mike Tomlin put it perfectly when

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Speaker 3: I guess a reporter asked him, how are you advising

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Speaker 3: your players if someone were to spit in your face?

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Speaker 3: And I think he you know, I'm kind of paraphrasing

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Speaker 3: where he said, Look, you just do what comes naturally

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Speaker 3: to you at that point, and someone that hits you

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Speaker 3: in the groin, Dan, if someone spits in your face,

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Speaker 3: I would tell you the same thing or anyone else,

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Speaker 3: do what comes comes naturally and I'll back you from there.

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Speaker 2: Would you be playing Joe Burrow if you're the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: I think it.

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Speaker 3: Look, sometimes we know this, We know players need to

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Speaker 3: be protected from themselves, Like the Bengals aren't going on

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Speaker 3: anywhere as far twenty twenty five. And I know, like

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Speaker 3: this is the highest form of competition when it comes

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Speaker 3: to pro football, and you're being paid to do a job,

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Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow's being paid handsomely. But at the same time,

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to look out for his long term future

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Speaker 3: and the long term future of the Bengals, and I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's it's served by putting him out there

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Speaker 3: and a season that right now isn't going anywhere. I

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Speaker 3: just wouldn't want to risk further injury. I know he

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Speaker 3: could get injured at any time. It is football, It's

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Speaker 3: what he's paid to do. But I wouldn't put him

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: But he wants to be out there. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 2: your fan base is paying to see him out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can't bubble wrap him.

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Speaker 3: That's true. That is true. I understand that. But we're

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Speaker 3: talking about one of the elite of the elites that look,

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Speaker 3: I guess what I would really need to know here is,

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Speaker 3: and I say this numerous I've said this numerous different times.

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Speaker 3: One of the most important aspects of an organization is

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Speaker 3: your medical department, your doctors, your trainers, your rehab specialists.

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Speaker 3: I would actually want to know, Look, what is the

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Speaker 3: risk of playing this young man and putting him back

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Speaker 3: out there on the football field and the season that's

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Speaker 3: not going anywhere? Am I risking his long term future

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Speaker 3: that I've invested so much in by putting him back

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Speaker 3: out there? What's the risk of injuring him to the

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Speaker 3: degree where it compromises his long term future with our organization?

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Speaker 3: Those are That's where I would probably wind up leaning

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Speaker 3: on the most. But sitting here on the outside looking in,

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Speaker 3: I would probably be like, look, we're gonna look forward

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Speaker 3: to twenty twenty six with you, Joe.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking to Lewis Riddick of the motherships. You got

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Speaker 2: Miami at Pittsburgh, And I brought this up a little

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Speaker 2: bit with Notre Dame in Miami Miami Beach, Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: starting the season, Notre Dame is ranked higher. Where do

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Speaker 2: you stand with that? Should Notre Dame be ranked higher

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Speaker 3: Look, I think there's a lot left to be played

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Speaker 3: out still, Okay, at this point, do I think they

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Speaker 3: as the committee talked about yeah, I do. I think

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Speaker 3: they should be. I understand that they're saying that, look,

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame's losses, or rather Miami's losses are worse than

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame's losses. Then that's why maybe they are there

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Speaker 3: is a little bit of a gap between where they

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Speaker 3: them in the same pod. Then why would why would

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Speaker 3: any team ever want to schedule tough games in the

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Speaker 3: beginning of the season anymore if early season wins don't

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Speaker 3: count the same as late season wins. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: an argument Miami can make. It an argument that Miami

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Speaker 3: should make. I think in the end, after this weekend

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Speaker 3: that early season win really did mean something for Miami

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Speaker 3: if they are able to get past Pittsburgh on Saturday

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Speaker 3: and beat them convincingly, and then we can wind up

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Speaker 3: having this, you know, this conversation once again. I think

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Speaker 3: head to head should matter, no matter when you play it.

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Speaker 3: I don't like the whole idea of the that the

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Speaker 3: that the let's just say that the the value of

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Speaker 3: that win diminishes over time. I don't believe that I

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Speaker 3: do believe that teams can improve and teams can also

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Speaker 3: become worse as the season goes along. But head to

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Speaker 3: objective factors that go into this decision, which a lot

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Speaker 3: of times it seems like that's a sliding scale that

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Speaker 3: they use whatever they need to use in order to

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Speaker 3: this whole thing's kind of a mess. When you can't

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Speaker 5: You just are.

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Speaker 3: But that head to head is something I'm telling you

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Speaker 3: has to have become a factor. It has to be

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Speaker 3: a factor after this weekend is over.

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Speaker 2: Twenty minutes ago, I was talking about Rock Purty. He

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Speaker 2: hesitated on all three of those throws in the first half.

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Speaker 2: He threw interceptions, and I said, in college, you can

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Speaker 2: get away with hesitate, hesitate, then throw, you can double pump.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have time. In the NFL, you don't

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Speaker 2: have time, right Like, as soon as he paused, I went,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, and then he threw the interceptions. You

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Speaker 2: played defensive back in the NFL, you got to throw

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Speaker 2: guys open and they don't stay open very long. But

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Speaker 2: that precision is what makes quarterbacks great. And the guys

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Speaker 2: who don't aren't able to do that. The younger quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: who think they can do what they did in college,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the death of you. So can you

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Speaker 2: explain that though of throwing that receiver open as a

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Speaker 2: defensive back facing these receivers in quarterbacks?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, the great guys who patrolled the middle of

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Speaker 3: the field, in particular the safeties, even linebackers. But that's

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Speaker 3: where you see the interceptions. That's where you see the

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Speaker 3: lack of anticipation on the part of quarterbacks really come

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Speaker 3: home to bite them. It's when they're trying to throw

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Speaker 3: those big fifteen eighteen yard incuts that are coming in

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Speaker 3: and that's where a lot of times it's not open

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Speaker 3: when you throw it, but you're banking on the fact

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Speaker 3: expect them to be, and I'm going to put the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, save travels. Thank you, Lewis, Happy Thanksgiving, You got it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks a lot.

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Speaker 2: Before we get started, apparently you were listening to my

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Speaker 7: It was interesting that, you know, you were in college

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Speaker 4: You know, Like what do we were all doing? We

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Speaker 7: You know, I was watching that game when Florida was

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Speaker 7: Lane Kiffin like only Florida could come for this scenario.

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Speaker 7: Burrow practiced all week last week that he's not given

437
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 7: up on the season and he wanted to play, and

438
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 7: it kind of gave a spark to the whole team.

439
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 7: So I'm assuming the doctors know what they're doing. Would

440
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 7: I do it on its face, No, there just doesn't

441
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 7: seem to be that big a reason to do it.

442
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 7: But it's Joe Burrow, and you know, God bless him,

443
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 7: he's competitive.

444
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the Ravens twice. You also have the

445
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 2: Dolphins and the Browns and the car So you could

446
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 2: kind of catch lightning in a bottle here and maybe

447
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 2: make it interesting, putting some pressure on the Steelers. But like,

448
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 2: you can't bubble wrap him Chris, like you're paying him

449
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars to be your quarterback. You can't go, well,

450
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: we're not going to put him out there because the

451
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 2: games don't mean anything. You still have a fan base.

452
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 2: You got to play Kate as well, you do.

453
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,959
Speaker 7: But the point of it, and only someone who has

454
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 7: lost two Super Bowls could say this, honestly, you only

455
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 7: played to win a championship.

456
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 4: That's it.

457
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 7: It doesn't do you any good to win a game,

458
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 7: to win a season, to have winning record, and we

459
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 7: had a ten and six season. We didn't get to

460
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 7: go to the playoffs. And when you know, everybody was

461
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 7: always crying about that, and but you know, nobody remembers

462
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 7: anything you did if you didn't win at all, They

463
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 7: just don't. I mean I've never had anybody come up

464
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 7: to me and go, oh boy, I remember those two

465
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,479
Speaker 7: AFC championship games you guys played, And no, they remember,

466
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 7: Oh I remember when Joe Montana beat you twice in

467
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl. That's that's what they remember. And it's

468
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 7: it's a really you know, I wish I had one

469
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 7: more chance to do it, is the funny part about it.

470
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 7: It's like it's like everybody wants to play to win

471
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 7: the whole thing, the whole thing, and when you don't,

472
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 7: it just doesn't matter. So if Joe Burrow playing this

473
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 7: year somehow hurts his chances of winning it all next year,

474
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 7: that's why I would think about it.

475
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 2: Does it make it any easier that you did lose

476
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 2: to Joe Montana?

477
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 7: No, you know, because really we go through. So I

478
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 7: do games in San Francisco all the time, and you

479
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 7: go through, and of course the Super Bowl trophies are

480
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 7: front and center when you're there. And they had five

481
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 7: Super Bowls and three of them were complete blowouts. They

482
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 7: blew out the competition and two of them were close

483
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 7: games against the So we definitely had a chance. We

484
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 7: had the first one. We were around twenty to nothing

485
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 7: at halftime and still had a chance to win the

486
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 7: game by the end of it.

487
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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's uh yeah, so this is your becoming

488
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 4: my therapist.

489
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 2: I was I was going to be your therapist.

490
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 4: Now you're becoming mine. I need I need this.

491
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking to Chris Collins where it just completed

492
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: his five hundred career game. It was Sunday night. More

493
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 2: catches in the NFL or more games that you called,

494
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 2: games that I called. I think it was important. You're

495
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: close to five hundred receptions.

496
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Speaker 7: Weren't you were seventeen something like. We had a couple

497
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 7: of strike years in there, and yeah, so, I mean

498
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 7: it wasn't like nobody caught, like you could always be

499
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 7: around the leading receiver.

500
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 4: If you caught.

501
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 7: Sixty to seventy passes like that, those are the guys

502
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 7: who were going to the Pro Bowl back then.

503
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 4: Now those are like fourth string guys. It's you know,

504
00:23:59,440 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 4: you know what.

505
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 7: The other part, it's funny. I never had one. I

506
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 7: can't remember a touchdown pass. I'm sure I had one

507
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 7: of under ten yards.

508
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 5: You know.

509
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 7: I was watching DeVante Adams the other night and he

510
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 7: was like quick slant. Jerry Rice would have one. I

511
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 7: never caught a wide receiver screen like the game is

512
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 7: just I never caught a back shoulder throw. Nobody even

513
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 7: invented a back shoulder throw at that time. I was like,

514
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 7: how stupid were we that we didn't think to have

515
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 7: somebody stop on a go route when he was in

516
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 7: position to be able to make the play. Nobody had

517
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 7: the bunch formations where you could get three receivers and

518
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 7: get them out of man to man coverage. I remember

519
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 7: playing the Raiders and then the Cleveland Browns with their

520
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 7: great cornerbacks that they had, and you just lined up

521
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 7: out wide and tried to get open fast, and then

522
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 7: meanwhile they're blissing to their quarterback and getting after him.

523
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 7: It's so funny looking back on the game where it

524
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 7: was and where it is today and the answers that

525
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 7: they have the passing game today.

526
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 4: It's a wonder they ever run the ball at all.

527
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: You're kind of whining here the Super Bowls. You're whining

528
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: about not being used correctly.

529
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, but at least I didn't have to keep one

530
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 7: foot on the college.

531
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: If the Cowboys beat the Chiefs, finish that sentence.

532
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 7: Pay attention. I don't think they're catching the Eagles I

533
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 7: really don't. But when you have an offense like that, yeah,

534
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 7: pay attention because they did make some moves, right, they

535
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 7: made some moves to improve their defense that was really

536
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 7: pretty bad. And really the first game against the Eagles

537
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 7: wasn't that sort of it wasn't that bad a game.

538
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 7: That was the opening night. So the divisional opponents always

539
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 7: spend a ton of time working on the teams in

540
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 7: their division. So Dallas is the one team that division

541
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 7: should they sneak into the playoffs and you go, you

542
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 7: know who are the favorite right now? You probably say

543
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 7: Philadelphia and the Los Angeles Rams are the two front runners,

544
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 7: and Dallas because they can score points, could have a day,

545
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 7: could have a day against either one of those teams.

546
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with

547
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 2: the Eagles, and they're probably still trying to figure out

548
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: does it come down to the offensive line Maybe isn't

549
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: as good as it's been in previous years.

550
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 7: I think that's true. I do think that's true. But

551
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 7: they were great, you know, they were so far superior

552
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 7: than what they had been in the past. And the

553
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 7: other one that I mean, I talked about it on

554
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 7: the air the other night, but Jalen Hurts. I think

555
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 7: to some extent they haven't completely opened up that offense,

556
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 7: and they're going to make the playoffs. There's no way

557
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 7: they're not going to make the playoffs. And the goal

558
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 7: is to get to the playoffs and unleash the hounds

559
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 7: at that point. And so you think about when the

560
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 7: Eagles are great. In my opinion, Eagles are great when

561
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 7: they have not scrambles, which Jalen does, but designated run

562
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 7: plays with him. They run powers, they run read options,

563
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 7: they run various plays. That sets up the run game

564
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 7: because now you've got to leave the backside edge player

565
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 7: there because you know he might hand it off, he

566
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 7: might run the other way off to the right. So

567
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 7: when you get those plays going, when you get those

568
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 7: runs going, even if it's just five per game, it

569
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 7: sets up Saquon Barkley to not have to have that

570
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 7: backside in you're going to have an extra safety come

571
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 7: down in the box to try and stop him from running.

572
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 4: And what happened last year.

573
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 7: Was when Saquon got out, it was against a single

574
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 7: high safety and no single safety ever tackled him. But

575
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 7: now defenses they're getting away with two deep safeties being

576
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 7: back there in the run game and coming down and

577
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 7: now they're able to tackle him and he's getting the

578
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 7: ten fifteen yard runs. He's not getting the seventy yard runs.

579
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 7: And the other part of that is, now you've got

580
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 7: quarterback running, You've got Saque exploding with big plays, and

581
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 7: now you're setting up what aj Brown does best, which

582
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 7: is play against man coverage. AJ Brown with his in cuts,

583
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 7: with his slants, with his catch and run, he looks

584
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 7: like a tank out there on the field.

585
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 4: Now you get those two.

586
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 7: Things going, which they had last year, and now you

587
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 7: got aj going. And now's the Dante Smith is, you know,

588
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 7: the fourth thing you got to stop. And so he

589
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 7: gets man coverage and he's catching the bomb. So I

590
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 7: think when they get to the playoffs, maybe I'm completely wrong,

591
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 7: maybe I'm completely out of my mind.

592
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: I do think you're going to.

593
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 7: See Jalen Hirch run on some of those designated plays.

594
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 7: More just set up everything else.

595
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: Did Tom Brady reach out to you about how to

596
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: become an analyst?

597
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: He did? Yeah, Yeah. Did you reach out to you?

598
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: He did not, because I wouldn't have the firsthand knowledge

599
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: of that. I did talk to Drew Brees a little

600
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: bit about it. But that's you know, you're in the studio,

601
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: and I said, it's so sterile there. You've got to

602
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: create excitement in the studio when you go to the

603
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: game that allows you to be as close to the

604
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: action as possibly playing. What did you tell Brady.

605
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: To go to the studio? Honestly, it's exactly.

606
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 7: But it's the same thing I told Peyton Manning, same

607
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 7: thing I told all of them. I said, you know,

608
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 7: the studio is something that what are you preparing for.

609
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 7: You've got like five or six different hits during the

610
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 7: course of the show. You know what you're going to

611
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 7: talk about going into it. You can research it easily.

612
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 7: It's not that big a deal. Now you do have

613
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 7: to know a little something about all the teams, but

614
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 7: that's not too bad when you do the game and

615
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 7: you are starting from scratch every single week. I mean,

616
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 7: we did Washington a couple of weeks ago, but so

617
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 7: much which has changed during the course of the last

618
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 7: couple of weeks. With that, now you got to go

619
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 7: back and I got to be able to study Marcus Mariodin.

620
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 7: I gotta because now he's taken over at the quarterback.

621
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is what Tom did on a weekly basis.

622
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, but here's here's what I tell him. And the

623
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 7: same thing I told pay Man. I got to look,

624
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 7: you're used to getting ready for one side of the ball,

625
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 7: your offense against their defense. Now you have six sides

626
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 7: of the ball that you got to get ready for.

627
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 7: Now you've got to get ready for the backup offensive tackle.

628
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 7: And who's the assistant weight coach and who's the general

629
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 7: manager and what moves might they be making and blah

630
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 7: blah blah blah blah, And it's work, I mean. And

631
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 7: Tom God beloved him. That's what he said. He goes,

632
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 7: I love the work. I love the grind. I missed

633
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 7: the grind. I want to do that. And I go, okay,

634
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 7: I said, now let me lay the last bit of you.

635
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 7: Now we've got You're used to playing eight road games

636
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 7: a year. You are now going to have twenty two

637
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 7: road games. You got twenty two straight road games. I

638
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 7: know you want to be around your kids. I know

639
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 7: you want to have some time, you want to do that.

640
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 7: But that's that's what it's about. When night we did

641
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 7: the pregame show, we would go in on Saturday. Now

642
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 7: I go in on Thursday night. So Thursday night to

643
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 7: Monday is your twenty two straight weeks life if you're

644
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 7: ready for that. And Peyton, Peyton was He's the genius

645
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,239
Speaker 7: of all geniuses. Somehow he went from he was going

646
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 7: to call games, just sitting in his basement with his

647
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 7: brother screwing around and getting Emmy awards. I have no idea.

648
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 7: He's the smartest human being I ever met my life.

649
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: Okay, but did you.

650
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: Brady wanted it? He wanted it.

651
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: Did he try to talk him out of it and

652
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: tell him to do studio instead of going on the road.

653
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: Did I do that?

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Speaker 2: Did you try to?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Every one of them.

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Speaker 4: Have called me.

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Speaker 7: I go, I go, look, just bear with me. I'm

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Speaker 7: going to try and talk you out of what you're

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Speaker 7: talking about here, and and I give him the same

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Speaker 7: I give them all the same spiel, every single one.

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Speaker 7: I'm because I don't want them coming back to me going,

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Speaker 7: oh man, my life was ruined. I'm living on the road.

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Speaker 7: You know, I might as well be a baseball player.

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm never home, you know. So I didn't

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Speaker 7: want I didn't want to hear that back. Now, getting

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Speaker 7: to the stadium on Sunday and calling a game is

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Speaker 7: way better than being in the studium for all the

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Speaker 7: reasons you just said, because you're sitting there and you

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Speaker 7: get the action, you get the excitement of being at

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Speaker 7: the ballpark. You get what we pay for right as fans.

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Speaker 7: How many times have you paid to have a seat

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Speaker 7: in the stadium for the big events? And I'm there

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Speaker 7: every Sunday night. It's fantastic. Now, you know, you talk

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Speaker 7: for three hours. I mean the President of the United

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Speaker 7: States doesn't get to talk for three straight hours at

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Speaker 7: any point during the week. So when you mess something up,

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Speaker 7: you know, you say something stupid or something that you

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Speaker 7: didn't you know, mean to insult somebody, but you do.

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Speaker 7: Then you pay the price and you end up in

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Speaker 7: the blend ur of social media for a little while,

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Speaker 7: and then somebody else does something.

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Speaker 2: So you're whining about being on the road for twenty

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Speaker 2: two weeks? Do you want to be back in the studio?

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? Wow, Collin's worth coming off

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Speaker 2: the road question mark. No, you're up to five hundred.

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, what am I going to do? Shoot

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Speaker 4: for a thousand?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, no, you can go back to the studio now.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, I'm perfectly happy.

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Speaker 5: I don't I'm looking.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm in, I'm really we have a great time.

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Speaker 7: You have a road family. I mean, you know what

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Speaker 7: it's like, you have a road family. I mean it's

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Speaker 7: like you have people I live with literally for six

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Speaker 7: months out of the year, and you love them and

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Speaker 7: you're happy to be with them and the whole thing.

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Speaker 7: But I just think that quarterbacks in general, especially ones

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Speaker 7: that have had the careers those guys have had, they're

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Speaker 7: used to a certain way of life and they're not.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's it's worked. I mean, you go to

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Speaker 7: the practice facility, you sit around. You got to get

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Speaker 7: there early for the head coach, then you stay another

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Speaker 7: two hours afterwards for the quarterback who's coming out of

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Speaker 7: a massage, and you know, I mean, there's it's you know,

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Speaker 7: it's different.

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Speaker 2: It's real quickly.

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Speaker 4: You're turning me into a whiner here. I don't want

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Speaker 4: to be a whiner.

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Speaker 2: You complained about Montana, and you complained. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: just I'm just listening to you, Chris. I'm here for you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, well I appreciate that. I see Bobby Knight

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Speaker 7: right in front.

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Speaker 2: No, that's Lou Holtz, that's Lou Holtz at Arkansas.

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Speaker 4: No way with yellow hair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, back in the day he had ye, I mean

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Speaker 2: he had Robert Redford kind of here. Really, I'm a

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Speaker 2: lot older than you, Chris, thanks for joining us. Safe

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Speaker 2: travels there with Washington in Denver on Sunday night.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna work on being more positive.

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Speaker 2: Here at all. Right, That's what I do, Chris collins Worth.

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Speaker 2: Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer, joining us on the program. So,

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Speaker 2: Lebron's back, Luca's back. Are the Lakers back?

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Speaker 5: Looking at their record, it seems that they're back.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I think now JJ Reddick has his full compliment

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Speaker 8: of players. The question I think going forward is how

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Speaker 8: is he going to navigate?

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Speaker 5: You've got Luca averaging thirty four and a half.

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Speaker 8: You've got Austin Reeves the second leading score at around

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Speaker 8: twenty eight. I had to go back and look at

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Speaker 8: this and maybe you can answer this.

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Speaker 5: When was the last time It's never?

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Speaker 8: When was the last time Lebron James was the fifth

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Speaker 8: leading scorer on his team.

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Speaker 5: He's averaging fourteen points. So how does JJ.

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Speaker 8: They navigate that having an All NBA player just a

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Speaker 8: year ago second team in Lebron, and now you incorporate

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Speaker 8: him within the Lakers structures who've gotten off to a

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Speaker 8: great start.

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Speaker 5: Whin there's a four straight.

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Speaker 2: But this could be a good thing.

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Speaker 5: Reg It's a great thing. It's a great problem to have,

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Speaker 5: and we saw a little bit.

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Speaker 8: I just recently watched the back to back series they

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Speaker 8: had with Utah, and that second game in Utah, the

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Speaker 8: last two minutes were a little kind of wild because

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Speaker 8: they didn't know it was between Austin Reeves and Luca

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Speaker 8: and Lebron, and all they kept running was high screen

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Speaker 8: and roll with Lebron being the screener. At some point

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Speaker 8: when Lebron has his legs, he has his wind, and he's.

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Speaker 5: Back in full shape, no back issues.

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Speaker 8: You assume at some point Lebron's gonna have the ball

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Speaker 8: with some of these highest screening roles. So once they

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Speaker 8: figure out that dynamic of crunch time, they still won

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Speaker 8: the game, don't get me wrong, but they've got to

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Speaker 8: figure out their closing.

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Speaker 5: Moment and action between those three.

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Speaker 2: Players Okay, give me the hierarchy in the West. Best

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Speaker 2: teams in the West right now? Who would be number one?

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Speaker 2: Aside from Okac Okay.

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Speaker 8: No question Oka, see yeah, then Jokic and Denver, and

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Speaker 8: then right right after them is the Houston Rockets. I

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Speaker 8: think Houston is playing off the charts right now at

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Speaker 8: both ends of the floor. And I think they figured out.

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Speaker 8: You know, we were wondering, like, how would Lebron fit

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Speaker 8: in with Luca and Austinees. We were kind of wondering,

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Speaker 8: and older Kevin Durant, how is he going to fit

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Speaker 8: in with this young team? And it's been perfect him

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Speaker 8: and Shane Goon. I'm in Thompson to me, I think

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Speaker 8: come playoff times. I still have questions about that point guard.

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Speaker 8: But they figured it out so far and they're winning

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Speaker 8: ball games. So to me, those are the top three teams.

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Speaker 2: Can the Thunder win seventy games?

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Speaker 5: They could if they wanted to.

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Speaker 8: I don't think that's a priority for them.

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Speaker 5: Again, and they're doing this without Jacob.

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Speaker 8: By the way, guys, and just like last year they

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Speaker 8: did that hot start without Chet. Chet played the first game,

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Speaker 8: got hurt and missed, you know, like fifty games after

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Speaker 8: that or something, and they continue to win, so they're

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Speaker 8: only going to get better once Jalen Williams gets back.

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Speaker 8: Could they win fifty or seventy and maybe go for

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Speaker 8: the Golden State Warriors record?

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Speaker 5: Perhaps, but I don't think that's a priority.

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Speaker 8: Being healthy, playing well going into the playoffs is probably

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Speaker 8: and getting overall number one seeds because as we saw

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Speaker 8: last year, you want a Game seven in your building

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Speaker 8: and having the overall best record allows you to do that.

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Speaker 2: Are you on the Piston spandwagon?

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Speaker 5: I am the Pistons.

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Speaker 2: Where do they rank in the East? Then who's the

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Speaker 2: best team in the East?

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Speaker 5: No question, it's Detroit.

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Speaker 8: And what I love about them defensively they bring back

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Speaker 8: that same identity from the Isaiah Thomas and Bill Lambier

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Speaker 8: bad Boys to the Chauncey Billups, Rip Hamilton Tayshawn Prince.

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Speaker 8: They have a defensive identity, but more importantly, they have

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Speaker 8: a go to guy in Cave Cunningham. I loved the

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Speaker 8: Duncan Robinson pickup a guy that is a catch and

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Speaker 8: shoot type guy, but he's added to his game. He

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Speaker 8: doesn't hurt you defensively, and Jalen Durnham is an All

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Speaker 8: Star in my opinion, this year, he's made the biggest

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Speaker 8: leap in terms of his development, controlling the paint and

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Speaker 8: being able to score as well. To me, they are,

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Speaker 8: no question right now, the best team in the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 2: How did the Nets get this bad, Reggie?

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Speaker 8: I think it all went to when they Katie Kyrie,

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Speaker 8: James Harden and a lot of trades, bad trades.

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Speaker 5: And it is what it is.

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Speaker 8: It's just bad trades, bad management, bad scouting.

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Speaker 2: But they're one of the most irrelevant teams in all

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Speaker 2: of pro sports, right Yes, I mean they're terrible. They're there.

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Speaker 2: They got Michael Porter Junior and that's it.

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Speaker 8: I will say this, there was a time if Kevin

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Speaker 8: Durant's foot or feet are not on the line, they

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Speaker 8: could have an NBA championship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's such a long time ago.

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Speaker 5: It is. But it's ebbs and flows with some of

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Speaker 5: these organizations.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I could have done a better job

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Speaker 2: running than Thatt I do. I'm barely kidding.

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Speaker 5: No, you're to me.

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Speaker 8: Bad management, that scouting, it's just right now, it's a

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Speaker 8: bad organization.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of the Kenyan Martin Draymond Green

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Speaker 2: back and forth? Where Okay, let me see if I

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Speaker 2: got this right?

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Speaker 5: Is that it up? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Kenyan Martin, former number one overall pick, said Draymond isn't tough,

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Speaker 2: he's calculated. Draymond responds by calling Kenyon Martin an underachiever

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Speaker 2: for only making one All Star team. Kenyon Martin responded

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Speaker 2: by naming two hundred power forwards better than Draymond Green.

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Speaker 2: How did we get here?

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Speaker 5: Right? Look?

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Speaker 8: Both of these guys from Michigan right. And I posted

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Speaker 8: a comment after I saw the response from from Kenyan

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Speaker 8: Martin about the two hundred power forwards that were better

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Speaker 8: than Draymond, saying, and I'm quoting Rodney Keane, can.

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Speaker 5: We all just get along? Right?

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Speaker 8: Because both of these guys I played against Kmart in

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Speaker 8: his era, very tough dude over a number one pick,

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Speaker 8: brought it every night. And I've covered Draymond Green throughout

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Speaker 8: his whole illustrious career. And to me, it, I mean

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Speaker 8: it's popcorn worthy. Don't get me wrong, it's it's fun

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Speaker 8: to watch the back and forth. But I just wish

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Speaker 8: these two either Kmart needs to go on Draymond's podcast

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Speaker 8: or Draymond needs to go on Kenyan's podcast. They need

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Speaker 8: to air this out because it's getting a little ridiculous now. Personally,

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Speaker 8: if I was Draymond, I never would have responded because

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Speaker 8: you've got the rings.

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Speaker 5: And right now.

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Speaker 8: It looks like this is almost like the Drake Knda

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Speaker 8: Lamar beef right, and right now it kind of looks

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Speaker 8: like Kmart is winning.

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Speaker 5: I don't like the bo outlaw better than Draymond Green.

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Speaker 8: Evan Rettie Evan's better than Draymond Green.

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Speaker 5: Now some of them, don't.

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Speaker 2: He had on June? I mean, come on, man, okay?

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Speaker 2: Is Draymond a fake tough guy? Is he calculated?

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Speaker 3: Meaning?

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Speaker 5: What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: That means that he is very good at engagement?

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Speaker 8: Maybe he just hasn't tell I think what kmart is

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Speaker 8: saying is that he hasn't started something with the with

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Speaker 8: the wrong person, like for like for instance, for instance,

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Speaker 8: you remember when Boogie Cousins DeMarcus Cousins went against Zach

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Speaker 8: Randolph and was trying that with Zach Randolph, and Zach

872
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 8: Randolph said, I.

873
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 5: Put fear in the bullies. He picked on the wrong.

874
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 8: One because de Marcus used to go after just about everyone,

875
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 8: but he wouldn't go.

876
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 5: After Zach Randolph.

877
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 8: Right, And I think that's what Kmart is saying, like,

878
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 8: you're not going after the real tough, You're not.

879
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 5: Going after all the enforcers. And I just wish these.

880
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 8: Two would get in the room, hug it out, talk

881
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 8: it out, podcast it out.

882
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 5: Whatever these kids do today, figure.

883
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: It out talking to Reggie Miller. Will be on the

884
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: call tonight. It's a double header Coach to Coast Lebron

885
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: Luca Lakers against James Harden and the Clippers Battle of

886
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: La at eleven pm Eastern on NBC and Peacock. How

887
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: do you think we're going to look back on Nikola Jokic,

888
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: like historically, where does he rank? Where will he ranked?

889
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: You think when it's all shut and done, the.

890
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 8: Only thing missing from his resume is chips. He's done

891
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 8: everything personally, He's got all the MVPs, He's have all

892
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 8: the numbers and will have all the numbers to vacuum.

893
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 8: The only thing that will solidify him amongst the greats

894
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 8: are championships. I think we The knock on Wilt Chamberlain

895
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 8: is that he only gotten wander two, right, and you

896
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 8: look at Kareem who has six.

897
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 5: You've got Jill Russell who has what eight or nine.

898
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 8: Hakeem has too, So I think the only knock with

899
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 8: the Joker are chips.

900
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 5: So if he wins Chips, he's in.

901
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 8: He will be in a separate wing of the Hall

902
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 8: of Fame because his accolades and his resume will be

903
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 8: ridiculous at the end.

904
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 5: Of the day.

905
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm wondering about this. We do this with

906
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: NFL quarterbacks. Hey, you got one, but then if you

907
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 2: get to two, like, you really separate yourself. Whereas Joker

908
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: is not going to win four or five championships. But

909
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: if he wins, I think he's got to get the three.

910
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: If he gets the three, if you give him three

911
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: and you give him he might end up with five MVPs.

912
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: So three titles, five MVPs, now all you.

913
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 8: Can make a case for him to be the greatest

914
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 8: center of all time if he gets three rings. If

915
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 8: he wins three rings, he is the greatest center of

916
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 8: all time over three in today's climate.

917
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, we're taking Willed and Bill Russell out of this.

918
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 8: I'm certainly taking Bill Russell out. Remember we talked about this. Yeah,

919
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 8: it's hard to put players from the sixties. It's seventy

920
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 8: five on.

921
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 5: Okay, So to me, it's Kareem as the greatest and

922
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 5: then Shack.

923
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 8: He's competing against those two guys in terms of who

924
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 8: is the greatest center.

925
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 5: If he wins three, you can.

926
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 8: Make a case he's the greatest because his numbers will

927
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 8: back that up.

928
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: Because I'm trying to think any other center, like, he's

929
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: almost the first guy on the moon with big men

930
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: who's getting average in a triple double.

931
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 5: And to me, his passing is what's separating him. His

932
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 5: rebounding is there, his scoring is there.

933
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 8: It's the passing right and for a big man to

934
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 8: average a triple double, and it looks like he's going

935
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 8: to do it in back to back years and looks

936
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 8: like he's going to pick up another MVP the Nuggets,

937
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 8: which it looks like there will be a top four

938
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 8: seed right now.

939
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 5: I believe they're two.

940
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: But it's almost like he's created a system like Peyton

941
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: Manning did. Peyton Manning redefined the quarterback play by going

942
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage and he created his own system.

943
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: Jokers created his own system, his own ecosystem. There that

944
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: you got a point center who also shoots great from three,

945
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 2: you know, rebound steals, all of those different things.

946
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 8: Well, we talked about the Nets, bad management that surrounding

947
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 8: incorporating great The Nuggets have gotten right.

948
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 5: They revamped their whole team.

949
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 8: They got rid of Michael Porter Junior who we mentioned

950
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 8: going to the Nets, and now you've got You've got

951
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 8: players around him that compliment the two best players, Jamal

952
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 8: Murray and Jokic, and you.

953
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 5: Know, bringing back Bruce Brown fantastic.

954
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 8: I just think the only thing missing from the Big

955
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 8: Fella is ships.

956
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 5: But here's the problem. In a loaded Western conference.

957
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 8: The team that's ahead of you, they have figured out

958
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 8: how to win just like you did a couple of

959
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 8: years ago. They want a chip just like you did

960
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 8: a few years ago, and they will be a hard out.

961
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 5: They're just as big.

962
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 8: And yes, you took them to seven games last year,

963
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 8: but again they won.

964
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 5: So that's the problem. You have that team in your

965
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 5: conference now that you've got to go through.

966
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 2: If you were getting traded and you had to pick

967
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: between Brooklyn or Washington, the Wizards or is there a

968
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: worse one than that is New Orleans in there.

969
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 8: If I had to pick a team right now that

970
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 8: I would want to play for and today.

971
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: Today at least want to play for.

972
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 8: I would probably say. I mean Brooklyn, you're in New York,

973
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 8: so that's kind of cool.

974
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 5: Washington. I would throw Washington, New Orleans in there. Those

975
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 5: are two of my favorite.

976
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 2: But I had to Sacramento, Utah.

977
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 8: Sacramento, at least you're in California, Utah. Yeah, that would

978
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 8: be very tough. That would be very very difficult. I

979
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 8: could go skiing. Look, I can't do good. You know

980
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 8: sun dance?

981
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: Can you ski?

982
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 4: No?

983
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 5: I can't. Sorry, I said I can't go. Maybe the

984
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 5: family would.

985
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 2: Go, but hey, the jammer rank Klay Thompson thing. One's another.

986
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: How can you call Klay Thompson a bum if you're

987
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 2: in street clothes and you are bordering on being a bust?

988
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. Here's my thing?

989
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 8: Why are they going after God Draymond Green four rings

990
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 8: Clay Thompson for I mean, how are you going to

991
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 8: talk about guys and they've been to the top of

992
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 8: the mountaintop and your in street clothes.

993
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 5: I mean, I love John Moran, but.

994
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 8: Get back before you start talking, and get healthy and

995
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 8: get on the court, please please, that's all we're asking.

996
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 5: You can't be talking in cities, all right, you just can't.

997
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: But to call Clay Thompson a bum.

998
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 8: Hey, we've got four news gord sixty one points and

999
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 8: eight dribble.

1000
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: He's one of the five greatest shooters of all time.

1001
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 8: I mean, come on, it's getting ridiculous, man, it's getting ridiculous.

1002
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 2: You gotta get these kids a history lesson here too,

1003
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 2: Like what's going on here?

1004
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 5: I don't understand it?

1005
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 8: And again Clay, he's shouldn't respond, he should be looking

1006
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 8: down like.

1007
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 5: Plate.

1008
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: How are the Mavericks looking?

1009
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 8: I guess it ain't all eCos fall right, but again,

1010
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 8: they've been riddled with injury. I can't I cannot really

1011
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 8: judge the Mavericks until a d and Kyrie is back,

1012
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 8: and then I can get a full assessment of them.

1013
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 8: So I'm not gonna I can't dog Cooper and the

1014
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 8: rest of these guys out until I get those two

1015
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 8: guys back.

1016
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: Could kN Knipple be the best rookie this year?

1017
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 5: He's winning a Rookie of the year.

1018
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 2: He's averaging nineteen a game.

1019
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 5: He's winning a Rookie of the Year. And dare I

1020
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 5: say this? Uh? Oh? Dare I say?

1021
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: Oh?

1022
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 4: Is he is.

1023
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 8: Stephen Curry going to be a little nervous? Who in

1024
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 8: about fifteen.

1025
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: Years all with the three point totals.

1026
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 8: Yes, think, just go back and look at Steph's first

1027
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 8: two or three years in terms of owners made and

1028
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 8: what Kan has done this year. Just look at their

1029
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 8: first years. I'm just saying, if you stayed, but here's

1030
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 8: the problem. You gotta stay healthy. Longevity seventeen years, eighteen

1031
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 8: years for Stephen Curry, Ken Kahan, kN Nipple will do

1032
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 8: that over a long period of time.

1033
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 5: I want to see it, and Khan's doing it.

1034
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 4: It's Charlotte, No Charlotte.

1035
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that might be a place too.

1036
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: You don't want to go to Charlotte. That might be

1037
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: a place too, Yeah, Paulie.

1038
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 9: Steph Curry's first three years in the NBA with the

1039
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 9: ankle injury, he averaged two point one threes made per game.

1040
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 9: Khan Kinnipple, our guy, He's averaging three point seven threes

1041
00:52:58,800 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 9: made per game.

1042
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 5: In year one.

1043
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 2: Yeah he's pretty good.

1044
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1045
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 2: He can get to the rim too, So shoot yeah,

1046
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 2: shoot yeah. Shooters make you know, yeah, shooters make that's

1047
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: the difference. Have fun tonight, Happy Thanksgiving to the family,

1048
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: and thanks.

1049
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 5: To you and my lovely dad is Gobble, Gobble Gobble.

1050
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: That is Reggie Miller,