WEBVTT - Undiscovered Friday Orbit: Big Ten Preview 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:15.120 Three two one zero, all engine running. Looks up. 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:20.479 We have a welcome back to the UFO Show here 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.160 on the solid verbal. My name is ty Hildebrand, joining 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.880 me way over there on the other. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.200 Side of this here college football Galaxy. My man Dan Ruberstein, Sir, 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:33.240 how are you? I'm so good because I can hear 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:35.919 in your voice how happy it makes you that we 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:40.920 have a vaguely space themed weekly college football show. And 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.720 you're a very busy man. There are things that pull 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.920 you in a number of directions, but I will randomly 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:52.640 receive space messages as it relates to UFO ideas from 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.120 you at all hours of the day. It's true, It's 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.720 so true. I'll get like a medical not a medical, 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:03.240 but a science journal article about some sort of space 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.520 dust or some sort of alternate form of matter that's 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.360 only in the galaxy M eighty two. And I know that, 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.959 even if you're not putting your all into anything else 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.679 in life, you put your all into the UFO Show. 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.039 And so I'm thrilled to be here. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:24.520 I'm thrilled to be here as well on this momentous week. Yeah, 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.880 as it relates to all things outer space, there was that. 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.520 You're a say college footbo through that man. 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:36.880 Okay, we're talking about space on the space themed show, 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:41.839 and NASA and the Space Program made some news as 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.800 they touched down and performed what they defined as a 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:50.960 pogo sticking maneuver. Okay, on the asteroid one on one 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:57.280 five menu, it's a near what it's a near Earth asteroid. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.840 I think I saw at some point. There is a 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.920 possibility it could crash into Earth, which some would argue 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.800 hasn't happened soon enough. But that being said, yeah, it 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:11.440 did a maneuver o Cyrus r ex. I don't know 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.240 if it's Ocyrus rex. I'm calling it that because it 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.400 sounds like it's way cooler. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.600 Now. It performed a maneuver. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.280 Where it did a pass by the asteroid and then 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:26.200 it plopped down, it grabbed, presumably grabbed some of the 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.520 soil from the asteroid, and then popped right back up 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.120 like it was on a pogo stick. And by the 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.639 time we do our next show, I believe by the 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.440 time we do our next preview, at least we'll have 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.520 confirmation that it grabbed the sample, and then I think 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.799 it could you know, performance analysis. 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.480 So what does this mean? What does this prove that 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.000 we can do moving forward now that we can pogo 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:50.600 stick a near Earth asteroid. 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.400 To be honest with you, I don't know, okay, I 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.520 just from a space standpoint, but at least within the 0:02:56.560 --> 0:03:01.280 context of our undiscovered Friday orbit Dan, Yeah, I think 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:05.240 it's got a natural tie into charting the unknown, figuring 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:09.600 out things that were previously undiscovered. In this case, how 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.040 about the twenty twenty Big Ten college football season. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.920 I like that connection tie. I like that connection. Is 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.480 the near Earth asteroid, you know, something that could collide 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.760 with Earth? Is there a Joe Milton comparison in there 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.560 for you? Is there a plotting Iowa offense Holiday Bowl? 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:30.880 Notwithstanding comparison there for you? What makes sense in terms 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:38.240 of collisions and quick turnarounds and bounce offs? What's the 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:39.640 connection there specifically? 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.800 I think? I think specifically, first and foremost, the Big 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.040 Ten is an asteroid headed towards college. 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.640 Football, Okay, and so this show is that dip is 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.640 that pogo stick hop onto the Big Ten asteroids than 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:58.360 exactly back into the greater galaxy of college football at large? 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:00.520 I think that's right. I could not have said that 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.640 any better myself. So we are, in a sense the 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.800 probe we're going down doing the pogo stick maneuver. We're 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:08.640 just gonna grab a little bit of that Big Ten 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:09.760 alien soil. 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:11.600 We're gonna preation dust. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.200 Yeah, we're going to bring it back up into the mothership, 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:18.000 and we're going to give you just quick analysis for 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:19.760 what you should expect from the Big Ten season. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:23.640 Dan, I like this. I have a lot of thoughts. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.480 What I think we're going to do is we are 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.160 just going to figure out the most intriguing thing about 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.479 the fourteen teams to speak about in the Big Ten 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.400 and largely focus on what is unknown and undiscovered about 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.680 each of them. Right. I think that's right. Yeah, I 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.520 think that's right. Just making sure, should we rifle off 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.280 a little bit of news here before we do it? 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:55.360 I would love to we are breaking news, Dan, Yeah, 0:04:55.760 --> 0:05:01.080 So what up with LSU? Huh? Yeah? 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:07.080 You may recall at the National Championship, obj Odell Beckham, junior, 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:11.599 former LSU star, was there after the game Seene handing 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:16.240 out what appeared to be money. Remember that the ultimate 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:20.520 trick or treat Ultimate trick or treat literally making it rain, 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:27.000 I read to you from CBS Sports. LSU was banning 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:31.400 former star receiver Odell Beckham Junior from its facilities for 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.560 two years after he appeared to hand wadds of cash 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.039 to LSU players following the team's National Championsip victory over 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:47.680 Clemson in January. Dan, this is a complex story. It's 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:52.359 a weird story. It is a self imposed ban that 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:58.240 LSU is taking to avoid further NCAA penalty in response 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:03.520 to any rules violations here obj for two years. There 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:07.880 are also some voluntary scholarship reductions that are going to 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.560 be taking place over that same period of time. I 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.719 think account of eight total is what they're looking at 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:18.640 in terms of reducing scholarships. They're also going to scale 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:23.000 back some of their own recruiting time. I have not 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.200 seen further commentary on this matter, Dan, I'm a bit 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.440 unprepared as it relates to whether or not this is 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.479 going to be enough to stave off any future moves 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.480 by the NCAA future in fractions. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:40.200 But gosh, what a weird story. Yeah, very strange, and 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.760 it's unknown at this time. I mean, the assumption, it 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.640 appears I saw some reporting in a different couple different 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.920 places that LSU is under the assumption that it's going 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.080 to be looked at as a level one violation, but 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.120 there are three different tiers, three different levels to level 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.440 one violations, and so LSU and trying to get out 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.920 ahead of things. Also there is the accusation and the story, 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.600 the allegation that a booster paid the father of now 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.719 a former offensive lineman, Vidal Alexander one hundred and eighty 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.720 thousand dollars out of the five hundred thousand dollars he 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.920 is accused of or convicted of embezzling from a hospital, 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.720 a local Baton Rouge hospital. I believe it's in Baton Rouge, 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.200 which is the much more ugly part of the story. 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.600 The OBJ thing is whatever, you distance yourself from OBJ 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.920 for two years. Fine, sure, I saw. There's also an 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:30.920 impermissible contact allegation against ed Orgeron. He will suffer some 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:36.320 consequences from that. But yeah, LSU is hoping that they 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.840 can slap their own risk, but that doesn't seem to 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.560 always work in these scenarios. 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.000 A story that we will continue to follow here, to 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:48.000 say the least, for sure. I've also got that Florida 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:52.080 Football is going to remain closed until Monday. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:52.640 Again. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:59.720 We're recording this on Thursday evening Monday because of the 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:04.920 on going COVID outbreak taking place down there, So you know, again, 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.000 talk about weird circumstances, right, we had Florida going on 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.280 the road, losing to a and m Dan Mullen in 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.240 the immediate aftermath saying how he wanted to have a 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.720 full house in the swamp. Immediately a bunch of players 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:22.720 seem to contract COVID, including Dan Mullen and now midsum 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.400 talk over when they can resume activities. They're going to 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.880 remain closed for a few more days. So you know, again, 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:32.960 we say all of this with the hopeful understanding that 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.199 we're just rooting for everyone to get healthy and better 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.680 and you know that they can get past this bump 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.000 in the road. It has affected a number of other 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.640 schools around college football. There is a touch of irony 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.160 here that is not lost on anybody. But we hope 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:47.640 they can get back up and running soon. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.079 Yeah, oh for sure. And along those similar lines, I 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.839 don't know if we mentioned New Mexico, Colorado State has 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.320 been canceled. I think it was Colorado State. Who is 0:08:56.520 --> 0:09:00.760 you know, hopefully correcting a bit of a posetive situation 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.520 positive in the testing way and should also mention just 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.600 on better News because we didn't really touch on it 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:08.760 too much because there aren't too many interesting games. But 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.320 the Mountain West is back. Yeah, the Mountain West is back. 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:15.840 We've got Wyoming, Nevada, Utah State, Boise State, which I 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.840 guess i'd like to see. Boise State new offensive coordinator 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.880 was Zach Hill to Asu, Hawaii, Fresno State. So it's 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.840 the premiere of the Kail Kaylan de Bor Bulldogs, excuse me, 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.959 and the Todd Graham Warriors. Why Warriors, They're always the 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:34.040 Rainbow Warriors to me air Force, San Jose State UNLV 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.360 Marcus Royal now former Oregon offensive coordinator taking over there 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.800 in San Diego State, and Brady Hoke, so there's interesting action. 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.320 And we also have it looks like two ten thirty 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.960 eastern kickoffs, So if you've been missing late late night 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:52.720 East Coast time football, a nice little pogo stick down 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:57.480 there for you to enjoy. That is all I got. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:01.959 I see that Garrett Schrader, formerly a Mississippi State quarterback. 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:08.280 He's going to be transferring out. Started four games from 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:12.080 Mississippi State last year. Obviously they're going with kJ Costello 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.040 in a different system now. So Garrett Trader doesn't feel 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:18.280 he's got a spot there any other news that you 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.080 want to get through before we jump in and just 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.000 pogo stick down onto this big ten asteroid. 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.840 Not especially, I'm excited because we're going to touch on 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.480 a number of teams, and specifically with Iowa. I know 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.000 you've been wanting to get off your chest the boundary 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.160 corners I guess have tweaked their technique in this new 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.280 Iowa defense, and you just wanted to touch on pogo 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.719 stick down on some new tweaks and how that might 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.560 affect their play calling. So I'm super pumped. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:45.160 If you are just finding the show, don't forget the 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.120 subscribe going out to solidverbal dot com. Look for the 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.600 listen button in the upright hand corner. You can get 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.400 all the info there on how to subscribe and of 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.120 course how to sign up four hour newsletter which we 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.160 send out every Friday. 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:02.160 Dan, okay, correct without shall we do this? Let's do it. 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.640 You've got the West, I've got the East. Where shall 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.840 we start? Let's start west. Let's start with one of 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.319 the teams that's in the state I'm literally in right now, 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.680 the fight in a Lion I of Illinois, the Drive 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.640 to five or four. I don't know, whatever makes you happy. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.719 Tie. The thing is doesn't. 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:23.840 Really matter this year because of Bowl eligibility requirements being relaxed. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.560 You just need to find a way to win the crowd, 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.560 need to find a way to be interesting, and then 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:30.920 that's how you get into a Bowl game. 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:35.319 Right. Yeah, let's just go over what intrigues us about 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.480 each of these teams. And with Illinois, I'm gonna say 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.240 it's the furries tie. The furry asking you, sir as 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:44.000 I'll put s furries? Does Dan speak up? The transferries tie, 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:48.600 the transferries transfer into this program from a bunch of schools. 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:52.240 Somebody I'm particularly interested in. Let's hope he's not injured 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.800 by the time people watch this. But Luke Ford, the 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:59.920 Georgia transfer, blue chip transfer from Illinois transferred back home. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.960 I'm interested to see because they've succeeded so well with 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.840 pass catchers coming in, especially from USC last year. We 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:10.319 saw some big plays. So there's the imatorbe Bay family 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.080 has a big presence at Illinois. And what does that 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.440 mean for Brandon Peters Because I do believe the defense 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.840 even though they've lost a couple of guys up front, 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.079 and I think they're just going to be solid once again. 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:25.080 It's the offense that worries me, And is that talent 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:29.000 those transfers in. Is that talent enough those guys who 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.840 have transferred in enough to make Brandon Peters interesting? I 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.920 think it's intriguing because at times he made plays last year, 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.200 but that was just it at times. That to me 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:42.440 is interesting and intriguing about Illinois. Has the talent level 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.160 increased enough to the point where playing in the Big 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.640 Ten West, they can make more noise than just be 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:53.199 shock of the world Illinois like, they're just consistently interesting. Okay, No, 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:54.840 I think that's a good point. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.400 And of course, the Lion I square off against another 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.679 West opponent, one of the Big Ten slate that is 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.199 the Wisconsin Badgers. Dan, how do you feel about that? 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:05.880 How do you feel about the Badgers this year? 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.400 I think good Wisconsin's one of those teams that it's 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:13.240 very difficult to see a complete dramatic change in either direction, 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.440 and because their ceiling seems to be so high, just 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.280 not quite as high as I'm sure they would like 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.040 it to be. Jack Cone is injured and out for 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.319 a considerable amount of time, and so my big intriguing 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.720 thought question is I guess it's more hope where those 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.720 Winter Wonders Ty, We've seen it almost year and year 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.120 out that they they'll win the West, They'll get to 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.320 the championship game and inevitably play against Ohio State most 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.160 likely maybe go to the Rose Bowl and take on 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.000 Oregon like they did last year. Who are those guys 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.520 that those top tier teams across the country or within 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.839 the conference itself. Who are they scared of? Who are 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.760 those receivers that teams have to game plan for. We 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.640 know Jonathan Taylor's gone, and we know that he was 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.360 somebody you had to know. You know, usually he's in 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.640 the backfield, but you had to be extremely concerned about 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.520 him touching the ball every time. Who are those guys? 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.560 This year looks like it's a running back by committee 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.320 with Kendrick pryor you know they lose Quintes Cephis to 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.480 the NFL. Who is that guy or group of guys 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.880 for Wisconsin who you're like, Oh crap, he's lined up 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.960 in the slot. Oh no, he's lined up outside. Oh 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.240 my goodness, he's in motion. I'm worried about where those 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.400 Winter Wonders are those guys who can perform in December 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.720 and January against anybody. 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.880 The other thing with Wisconsin, you didn't mention the name 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:29.640 Graham Mertz. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.240 That's true, Jack Cone out. 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:36.560 Yeah, Graham Mertz is a highly touted quarterback recruit. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.240 Does he fall under that for you? Is he a 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:40.560 winter wonder? He could be. 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.440 We don't know enough about him, and I'm very curious 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.880 to see what he can give them. I think Jack Cone, 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.560 for his part last year was better than I expected, 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.920 but still there was much room to grow in that offense. 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.000 And if you can add in a guy. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.600 With a little bit more arm town, a little bit 0:14:55.640 --> 0:15:00.320 more consistency, obviously, that improves the quality of of that 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.880 rushing attack for Wisconsin. Hard to do more of that, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.920 but it makes them all the more threatening as an 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.520 opponent if you've got some sort of capable passing game 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:09.240 to go along with it. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:10.160 So I'm very. 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.400 Curious, very intrigued in which direction things go at the 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.040 quarterback position for Wisconsin. 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.680 Yeah. I like Jack Cone, I like Graham Ertz. Hopefully 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:19.520 he gives them a bit of a higher ceiling. Who 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.280 is there a team to you? Let's tie it to Wisconsin. Tie. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.640 Is there a team to you in the East where 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:29.840 you like, but your intrigue is about their ceiling. Well, 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:36.120 I mean, I think I'll say Indiana, Oh, okay, go on. 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.920 I'm intrigued by Indiana's ceiling insofar as I think they 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:44.720 have really been trying to push up against that upper 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.200 crust of the East for a few years now. You know, 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.640 they've been knocking at the door to knock off in 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.120 Ohio state or a Penn state, or a Michigan or 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.440 a Michigan state with any kind of consistency, And I 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.960 think this might be the year where they finally get 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.160 to that height. I'm not saying they're gonna win the East, but. 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.360 I think they've got enough consistency across the board, enough 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:12.440 depth finally across the board where that actually becomes real possibility. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.920 Michael Penix was hurt last year. He's back this year. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:16.840 Peyton ram Is. 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:18.800 That your intrigue point, Big Lefty? 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:23.040 He is my intrigue point, because I think the ceiling 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.960 with Penix is probably higher than it was with Ramsey, 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.800 and we just didn't see enough of him. So you 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:32.200 combine that with Stevie Scott, who we obviously like on 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:33.880 the show and have talked a lot about. I think 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:38.280 they're good at receiver, questions about the line, but the 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.360 defense was young a year ago. It should show some 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.200 improvement again this season. 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.960 Had we were we were all so young. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.520 The year ago we were we were had there, we 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.800 were young, but Hey had their offensive coordinator depart but 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:56.720 promoted from within. So I just think that continuity, especially 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.400 in a weird year like this, where teams are learning 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.440 a new system, they have new coaches and new players, 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.720 it really helps to have a core of guys who 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.600 just kind of get what your program's all about. And 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.560 so that's part of the reason why, especially in a 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.680 week one game against a Penn State, I find Indiana 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:18.120 particularly intriguing and especially moving forward, right moving forward into 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.320 the twenty twenty one slate, I do think Tom Allen 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.679 is building something at Indiana, and for that reason, they're 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.400 more intriguing to me than probably most. 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.960 Others, probably not Nine Windiana when you only have eight 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:35.040 regular season games. Correct, the nine Windyana spirit it's there, 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.639 it lives on, It does live on absolutely all, right, 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.560 any other team where like So let's take it back 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.600 to how I felt about Illinois, where I'm interested to 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:48.800 see how they go from being scrappy to competent weekly competence. 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.960 Is there a team that weekly competence is an intrigue 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.719 point for you within the Big ten East, I'll nus 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:56.400 say Rutgers. 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:01.080 Dan, Okay, I'm gonna say, good answer, good answer, Yeah, Rutgers. 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:02.360 Rutgers is intriguing. 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:06.560 So Greg Ciano's back, Yeah, he's been there before. I'm 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.320 not saying there's going to be some sort of overnight transition. 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.520 But at Furries too, they do. They did a lot 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.840 of work. Because I'm still not comfortable saying that, but 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.639 i know you're not. Shiano wasn't the sexy higher, but 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.320 he knows the turf, he knows how to recruit to Rutgers. 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.000 He obviously did some work on the transfer portal. The 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.080 offense is going to be a work in progress. They've 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:29.320 got a million quarterbacks on. 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.200 The roster that they're still trying to sift through. 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:33.600 As of recording, it looks like it's going to be 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:37.360 King Arthur Saikowski the week one starter, but that could 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:41.520 change depending on how Shiano feels. I am most curious 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.760 about their defense. I think their defense can be cobbled 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.720 together in a way that they they got enough parts 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.880 to be competitive out there. To offer enough resistance and hey, 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.440 at a minimum, be better than Maryland. They've got everybody's 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.119 got to be better than Maryland this year, and that 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.800 would represent, I think, a pretty big step for for Rutgers. 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:05.040 So if you're talking week to week, who's gonna who's 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:08.679 gonna be intriguing? Just from a competence standpoint, I'm curious 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.160 to see what Chiano can do in your. 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.480 One Yeah, I mean that the transfers are huge, and yeah, 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:15.800 the week to week competence thing, I think that the 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:18.600 Greg Ciano higher is not a year one higher. That 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.679 is a we are investing these next five years into 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:26.320 hoping that what he did before can become not necessarily reality, 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.159 but in the realm of reality. New Jersey is a 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.640 talented state, you see, I mean Pa, New Jersey, parts 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:36.040 of New York, Connecticut. There's talent in the northeast. Rutgers 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:39.520 is just a very unsexy place. Yeah, and we'll see 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.399 if if the Scarlet Knights can sex it up. 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:46.359 So let me build on that, okay, please, As you 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:50.480 talk about unsexy places, you got a couple of those 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:52.320 in the Big ten West, don't. 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:55.680 You, Yeah, I guess, But be more specific, what type 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:56.960 of unsex do you want? 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:00.600 I'm talking about the Iowahawkeyes, Dan of the Iowha guys, 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.120 as we've talked about on our showtime and again kind 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.720 of feels vanilla, kind of feels the same every year. 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:08.919 They've got some of their own challenges. 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.000 In twenty twenty, They've obviously had a lot going on 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.240 off the field. Here where do we stand on where 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:17.720 Kirk ference takes things? 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:22.640 Explosivo? That's my word, ti, I's you familiar civo? Explosciva? 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.359 Are you familiar with the band Tenacious D? I am, yes, 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.840 Tenacious D. It's a song by Tenacious D. They say 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.720 explosivo a bunch and it weirdly, I kept saying that 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:36.359 looking at Iowa and the potential for twenty twenty, Iowa 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.560 finished something like ninety fifth and ninety sixth and explosive 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.440 plays on the ground and through the air, with an 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:47.280 experienced quarterback, with relatively developed skill players, a good offensive line. 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:50.800 Tristan Wurf's obviously was the headliner, got drafted pretty early, 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:56.120 and their ability to generate, or their desire to generate 0:20:56.920 --> 0:21:00.480 explosive plays something that's key in generating and stopping Iowa's 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.280 fantastic on defense at doing But that to me is 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.800 the intrigue point. Is I mean Spencer Petros this year 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.280 is the new quarterback, a big kid from California and 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:13.560 big arm whatever. But is that offense opening up at all? 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:18.160 Wisconsin for all of their identity, You know how solidly 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:23.160 in to Madison, Wisconsin's offensive identity is They've gotten creative. 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.919 They've run RPOs, they've run misdirection, they've spread the ball around. 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:31.720 Iowa has not. Iowa has decidedly not. And it's is 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:33.720 there any sort of evolution of this offense. I know 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.199 they lose key guys on defense on all levels, but 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:39.720 to me, I'm not worried about their defense. It's offensively, 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:42.680 what can they do to put a scare into teams 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:46.920 that basically all kept Iowa under thirty points last year? 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:51.359 They didn't score a touchdown in their first seven quarters 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:55.520 in October last year against Michigan and Penn State. If 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.280 you're an Iowa fan watching this, go back to how 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.600 you felt during those seven quarters in which your very 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:05.679 experienced quarterback Nate Stanley was unable and we knew his 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.639 ability was there to lead Iowa to the end zone. 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:12.959 That those types of streaks can't happen anymore, ty if 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:16.040 Iowa was going to win this division. No, it's true. 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:19.880 That's the intrigue point. How are they getting the ball downfield? Quicker? 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:24.880 Iowa for a long time has challenged for the Big 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:28.679