1 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Three two one zero, all engine running. Looks up. 2 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: We have a welcome back to the UFO Show here 3 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: on the solid verbal. My name is ty Hildebrand, joining 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: me way over there on the other. 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Side of this here college football Galaxy. My man Dan Ruberstein, Sir, 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: how are you? I'm so good because I can hear 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: in your voice how happy it makes you that we 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: have a vaguely space themed weekly college football show. And 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: you're a very busy man. There are things that pull 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: you in a number of directions, but I will randomly 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: receive space messages as it relates to UFO ideas from 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: you at all hours of the day. It's true, It's 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: so true. I'll get like a medical not a medical, 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: but a science journal article about some sort of space 15 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: dust or some sort of alternate form of matter that's 16 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: only in the galaxy M eighty two. And I know that, 17 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: even if you're not putting your all into anything else 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: in life, you put your all into the UFO Show. 19 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: And so I'm thrilled to be here. 20 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to be here as well on this momentous week. Yeah, 21 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: as it relates to all things outer space, there was that. 22 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: You're a say college footbo through that man. 23 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: Okay, we're talking about space on the space themed show, 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 2: and NASA and the Space Program made some news as 25 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: they touched down and performed what they defined as a 26 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: pogo sticking maneuver. Okay, on the asteroid one on one 27 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: five menu, it's a near what it's a near Earth asteroid. 28 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: I think I saw at some point. There is a 29 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: possibility it could crash into Earth, which some would argue 30 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: hasn't happened soon enough. But that being said, yeah, it 31 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: did a maneuver o Cyrus r ex. I don't know 32 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: if it's Ocyrus rex. I'm calling it that because it 33 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: sounds like it's way cooler. 34 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: Now. It performed a maneuver. 35 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: Where it did a pass by the asteroid and then 36 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: it plopped down, it grabbed, presumably grabbed some of the 37 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: soil from the asteroid, and then popped right back up 38 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: like it was on a pogo stick. And by the 39 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: time we do our next show, I believe by the 40 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: time we do our next preview, at least we'll have 41 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: confirmation that it grabbed the sample, and then I think 42 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 2: it could you know, performance analysis. 43 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: So what does this mean? What does this prove that 44 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: we can do moving forward now that we can pogo 45 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: stick a near Earth asteroid. 46 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I don't know, okay, I 47 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: just from a space standpoint, but at least within the 48 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: context of our undiscovered Friday orbit Dan, Yeah, I think 49 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: it's got a natural tie into charting the unknown, figuring 50 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: out things that were previously undiscovered. In this case, how 51 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: about the twenty twenty Big Ten college football season. 52 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: I like that connection tie. I like that connection. Is 53 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: the near Earth asteroid, you know, something that could collide 54 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: with Earth? Is there a Joe Milton comparison in there 55 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: for you? Is there a plotting Iowa offense Holiday Bowl? 56 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: Notwithstanding comparison there for you? What makes sense in terms 57 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: of collisions and quick turnarounds and bounce offs? What's the 58 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: connection there specifically? 59 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: I think? I think specifically, first and foremost, the Big 60 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: Ten is an asteroid headed towards college. 61 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: Football, Okay, and so this show is that dip is 62 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: that pogo stick hop onto the Big Ten asteroids than 63 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: exactly back into the greater galaxy of college football at large? 64 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: I think that's right. I could not have said that 65 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: any better myself. So we are, in a sense the 66 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: probe we're going down doing the pogo stick maneuver. We're 67 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: just gonna grab a little bit of that Big Ten 68 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: alien soil. 69 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna preation dust. 70 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to bring it back up into the mothership, 71 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: and we're going to give you just quick analysis for 72 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: what you should expect from the Big Ten season. 73 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: Dan, I like this. I have a lot of thoughts. 74 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: What I think we're going to do is we are 75 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: just going to figure out the most intriguing thing about 76 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: the fourteen teams to speak about in the Big Ten 77 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: and largely focus on what is unknown and undiscovered about 78 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: each of them. Right. I think that's right. Yeah, I 79 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: think that's right. Just making sure, should we rifle off 80 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of news here before we do it? 81 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: I would love to we are breaking news, Dan, Yeah, 82 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: So what up with LSU? Huh? Yeah? 83 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: You may recall at the National Championship, obj Odell Beckham, junior, 84 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: former LSU star, was there after the game Seene handing 85 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: out what appeared to be money. Remember that the ultimate 86 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: trick or treat Ultimate trick or treat literally making it rain, 87 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: I read to you from CBS Sports. LSU was banning 88 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: former star receiver Odell Beckham Junior from its facilities for 89 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: two years after he appeared to hand wadds of cash 90 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: to LSU players following the team's National Championsip victory over 91 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: Clemson in January. Dan, this is a complex story. It's 92 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: a weird story. It is a self imposed ban that 93 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: LSU is taking to avoid further NCAA penalty in response 94 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: to any rules violations here obj for two years. There 95 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: are also some voluntary scholarship reductions that are going to 96 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: be taking place over that same period of time. I 97 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: think account of eight total is what they're looking at 98 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: in terms of reducing scholarships. They're also going to scale 99 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: back some of their own recruiting time. I have not 100 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: seen further commentary on this matter, Dan, I'm a bit 101 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: unprepared as it relates to whether or not this is 102 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: going to be enough to stave off any future moves 103 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: by the NCAA future in fractions. 104 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: But gosh, what a weird story. Yeah, very strange, and 105 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: it's unknown at this time. I mean, the assumption, it 106 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: appears I saw some reporting in a different couple different 107 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: places that LSU is under the assumption that it's going 108 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: to be looked at as a level one violation, but 109 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: there are three different tiers, three different levels to level 110 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: one violations, and so LSU and trying to get out 111 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: ahead of things. Also there is the accusation and the story, 112 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: the allegation that a booster paid the father of now 113 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: a former offensive lineman, Vidal Alexander one hundred and eighty 114 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: thousand dollars out of the five hundred thousand dollars he 115 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: is accused of or convicted of embezzling from a hospital, 116 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: a local Baton Rouge hospital. I believe it's in Baton Rouge, 117 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: which is the much more ugly part of the story. 118 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: The OBJ thing is whatever, you distance yourself from OBJ 119 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: for two years. Fine, sure, I saw. There's also an 120 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: impermissible contact allegation against ed Orgeron. He will suffer some 121 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: consequences from that. But yeah, LSU is hoping that they 122 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: can slap their own risk, but that doesn't seem to 123 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: always work in these scenarios. 124 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: A story that we will continue to follow here, to 125 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: say the least, for sure. I've also got that Florida 126 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: Football is going to remain closed until Monday. 127 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: Again. 128 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: We're recording this on Thursday evening Monday because of the 129 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: on going COVID outbreak taking place down there, So you know, again, 130 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: talk about weird circumstances, right, we had Florida going on 131 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: the road, losing to a and m Dan Mullen in 132 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: the immediate aftermath saying how he wanted to have a 133 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: full house in the swamp. Immediately a bunch of players 134 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: seem to contract COVID, including Dan Mullen and now midsum 135 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: talk over when they can resume activities. They're going to 136 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: remain closed for a few more days. So you know, again, 137 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: we say all of this with the hopeful understanding that 138 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 2: we're just rooting for everyone to get healthy and better 139 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: and you know that they can get past this bump 140 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: in the road. It has affected a number of other 141 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: schools around college football. There is a touch of irony 142 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: here that is not lost on anybody. But we hope 143 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: they can get back up and running soon. 144 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh for sure. And along those similar lines, I 145 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: don't know if we mentioned New Mexico, Colorado State has 146 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: been canceled. I think it was Colorado State. Who is 147 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully correcting a bit of a posetive situation 148 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: positive in the testing way and should also mention just 149 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: on better News because we didn't really touch on it 150 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: too much because there aren't too many interesting games. But 151 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: the Mountain West is back. Yeah, the Mountain West is back. 152 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: We've got Wyoming, Nevada, Utah State, Boise State, which I 153 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: guess i'd like to see. Boise State new offensive coordinator 154 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: was Zach Hill to Asu, Hawaii, Fresno State. So it's 155 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: the premiere of the Kail Kaylan de Bor Bulldogs, excuse me, 156 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: and the Todd Graham Warriors. Why Warriors, They're always the 157 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: Rainbow Warriors to me air Force, San Jose State UNLV 158 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: Marcus Royal now former Oregon offensive coordinator taking over there 159 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: in San Diego State, and Brady Hoke, so there's interesting action. 160 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: And we also have it looks like two ten thirty 161 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: eastern kickoffs, So if you've been missing late late night 162 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: East Coast time football, a nice little pogo stick down 163 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: there for you to enjoy. That is all I got. 164 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 2: I see that Garrett Schrader, formerly a Mississippi State quarterback. 165 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: He's going to be transferring out. Started four games from 166 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: Mississippi State last year. Obviously they're going with kJ Costello 167 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: in a different system now. So Garrett Trader doesn't feel 168 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: he's got a spot there any other news that you 169 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: want to get through before we jump in and just 170 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: pogo stick down onto this big ten asteroid. 171 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: Not especially, I'm excited because we're going to touch on 172 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: a number of teams, and specifically with Iowa. I know 173 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: you've been wanting to get off your chest the boundary 174 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: corners I guess have tweaked their technique in this new 175 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: Iowa defense, and you just wanted to touch on pogo 176 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: stick down on some new tweaks and how that might 177 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: affect their play calling. So I'm super pumped. 178 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: If you are just finding the show, don't forget the 179 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: subscribe going out to solidverbal dot com. Look for the 180 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: listen button in the upright hand corner. You can get 181 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: all the info there on how to subscribe and of 182 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: course how to sign up four hour newsletter which we 183 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: send out every Friday. 184 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: Dan, okay, correct without shall we do this? Let's do it. 185 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: You've got the West, I've got the East. Where shall 186 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: we start? Let's start west. Let's start with one of 187 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 2: the teams that's in the state I'm literally in right now, 188 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 2: the fight in a Lion I of Illinois, the Drive 189 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: to five or four. I don't know, whatever makes you happy. 190 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: Tie. The thing is doesn't. 191 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: Really matter this year because of Bowl eligibility requirements being relaxed. 192 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: You just need to find a way to win the crowd, 193 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: need to find a way to be interesting, and then 194 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: that's how you get into a Bowl game. 195 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, let's just go over what intrigues us about 196 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: each of these teams. And with Illinois, I'm gonna say 197 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: it's the furries tie. The furry asking you, sir as 198 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: I'll put s furries? Does Dan speak up? The transferries tie, 199 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: the transferries transfer into this program from a bunch of schools. 200 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: Somebody I'm particularly interested in. Let's hope he's not injured 201 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: by the time people watch this. But Luke Ford, the 202 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: Georgia transfer, blue chip transfer from Illinois transferred back home. 203 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see because they've succeeded so well with 204 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: pass catchers coming in, especially from USC last year. We 205 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: saw some big plays. So there's the imatorbe Bay family 206 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: has a big presence at Illinois. And what does that 207 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: mean for Brandon Peters Because I do believe the defense 208 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: even though they've lost a couple of guys up front, 209 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: and I think they're just going to be solid once again. 210 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: It's the offense that worries me, And is that talent 211 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: those transfers in. Is that talent enough those guys who 212 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: have transferred in enough to make Brandon Peters interesting? I 213 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: think it's intriguing because at times he made plays last year, 214 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: but that was just it at times. That to me 215 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: is interesting and intriguing about Illinois. Has the talent level 216 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: increased enough to the point where playing in the Big 217 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: Ten West, they can make more noise than just be 218 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: shock of the world Illinois like, they're just consistently interesting. Okay, No, 219 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: I think that's a good point. 220 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: And of course, the Lion I square off against another 221 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 2: West opponent, one of the Big Ten slate that is 222 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: the Wisconsin Badgers. Dan, how do you feel about that? 223 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: How do you feel about the Badgers this year? 224 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: I think good Wisconsin's one of those teams that it's 225 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: very difficult to see a complete dramatic change in either direction, 226 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: and because their ceiling seems to be so high, just 227 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: not quite as high as I'm sure they would like 228 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: it to be. Jack Cone is injured and out for 229 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: a considerable amount of time, and so my big intriguing 230 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: thought question is I guess it's more hope where those 231 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: Winter Wonders Ty, We've seen it almost year and year 232 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: out that they they'll win the West, They'll get to 233 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: the championship game and inevitably play against Ohio State most 234 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: likely maybe go to the Rose Bowl and take on 235 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: Oregon like they did last year. Who are those guys 236 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: that those top tier teams across the country or within 237 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: the conference itself. Who are they scared of? Who are 238 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: those receivers that teams have to game plan for. We 239 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: know Jonathan Taylor's gone, and we know that he was 240 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: somebody you had to know. You know, usually he's in 241 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: the backfield, but you had to be extremely concerned about 242 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: him touching the ball every time. Who are those guys? 243 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: This year looks like it's a running back by committee 244 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: with Kendrick pryor you know they lose Quintes Cephis to 245 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. Who is that guy or group of guys 246 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: for Wisconsin who you're like, Oh crap, he's lined up 247 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: in the slot. Oh no, he's lined up outside. Oh 248 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: my goodness, he's in motion. I'm worried about where those 249 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: Winter Wonders are those guys who can perform in December 250 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: and January against anybody. 251 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: The other thing with Wisconsin, you didn't mention the name 252 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: Graham Mertz. 253 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: That's true, Jack Cone out. 254 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Graham Mertz is a highly touted quarterback recruit. 255 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: Does he fall under that for you? Is he a 256 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: winter wonder? He could be. 257 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: We don't know enough about him, and I'm very curious 258 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: to see what he can give them. I think Jack Cone, 259 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: for his part last year was better than I expected, 260 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: but still there was much room to grow in that offense. 261 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: And if you can add in a guy. 262 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: With a little bit more arm town, a little bit 263 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: more consistency, obviously, that improves the quality of of that 264 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: rushing attack for Wisconsin. Hard to do more of that, 265 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: but it makes them all the more threatening as an 266 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: opponent if you've got some sort of capable passing game 267 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: to go along with it. 268 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: So I'm very. 269 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: Curious, very intrigued in which direction things go at the 270 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: quarterback position for Wisconsin. 271 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. I like Jack Cone, I like Graham Ertz. Hopefully 272 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: he gives them a bit of a higher ceiling. Who 273 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: is there a team to you? Let's tie it to Wisconsin. Tie. 274 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: Is there a team to you in the East where 275 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: you like, but your intrigue is about their ceiling. Well, 276 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I'll say Indiana, Oh, okay, go on. 277 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by Indiana's ceiling insofar as I think they 278 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: have really been trying to push up against that upper 279 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: crust of the East for a few years now. You know, 280 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: they've been knocking at the door to knock off in 281 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: Ohio state or a Penn state, or a Michigan or 282 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: a Michigan state with any kind of consistency, And I 283 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: think this might be the year where they finally get 284 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: to that height. I'm not saying they're gonna win the East, but. 285 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: I think they've got enough consistency across the board, enough 286 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: depth finally across the board where that actually becomes real possibility. 287 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: Michael Penix was hurt last year. He's back this year. 288 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: Peyton ram Is. 289 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: That your intrigue point, Big Lefty? 290 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: He is my intrigue point, because I think the ceiling 291 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: with Penix is probably higher than it was with Ramsey, 292 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: and we just didn't see enough of him. So you 293 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: combine that with Stevie Scott, who we obviously like on 294 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: the show and have talked a lot about. I think 295 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: they're good at receiver, questions about the line, but the 296 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: defense was young a year ago. It should show some 297 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: improvement again this season. 298 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: Had we were we were all so young. 299 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: The year ago we were we were had there, we 300 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: were young, but Hey had their offensive coordinator depart but 301 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: promoted from within. So I just think that continuity, especially 302 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: in a weird year like this, where teams are learning 303 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: a new system, they have new coaches and new players, 304 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: it really helps to have a core of guys who 305 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: just kind of get what your program's all about. And 306 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: so that's part of the reason why, especially in a 307 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: week one game against a Penn State, I find Indiana 308 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 2: particularly intriguing and especially moving forward, right moving forward into 309 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one slate, I do think Tom Allen 310 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: is building something at Indiana, and for that reason, they're 311 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: more intriguing to me than probably most. 312 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: Others, probably not Nine Windiana when you only have eight 313 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: regular season games. Correct, the nine Windyana spirit it's there, 314 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: it lives on, It does live on absolutely all, right, 315 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: any other team where like So let's take it back 316 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: to how I felt about Illinois, where I'm interested to 317 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: see how they go from being scrappy to competent weekly competence. 318 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: Is there a team that weekly competence is an intrigue 319 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: point for you within the Big ten East, I'll nus 320 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: say Rutgers. 321 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: Dan, Okay, I'm gonna say, good answer, good answer, Yeah, Rutgers. 322 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: Rutgers is intriguing. 323 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: So Greg Ciano's back, Yeah, he's been there before. I'm 324 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: not saying there's going to be some sort of overnight transition. 325 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: But at Furries too, they do. They did a lot 326 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: of work. Because I'm still not comfortable saying that, but 327 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 2: i know you're not. Shiano wasn't the sexy higher, but 328 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: he knows the turf, he knows how to recruit to Rutgers. 329 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: He obviously did some work on the transfer portal. The 330 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: offense is going to be a work in progress. They've 331 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: got a million quarterbacks on. 332 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: The roster that they're still trying to sift through. 333 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: As of recording, it looks like it's going to be 334 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: King Arthur Saikowski the week one starter, but that could 335 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: change depending on how Shiano feels. I am most curious 336 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: about their defense. I think their defense can be cobbled 337 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: together in a way that they they got enough parts 338 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 2: to be competitive out there. To offer enough resistance and hey, 339 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: at a minimum, be better than Maryland. They've got everybody's 340 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: got to be better than Maryland this year, and that 341 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: would represent, I think, a pretty big step for for Rutgers. 342 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: So if you're talking week to week, who's gonna who's 343 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 2: gonna be intriguing? Just from a competence standpoint, I'm curious 344 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: to see what Chiano can do in your. 345 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: One Yeah, I mean that the transfers are huge, and yeah, 346 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: the week to week competence thing, I think that the 347 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: Greg Ciano higher is not a year one higher. That 348 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: is a we are investing these next five years into 349 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: hoping that what he did before can become not necessarily reality, 350 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: but in the realm of reality. New Jersey is a 351 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: talented state, you see, I mean Pa, New Jersey, parts 352 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: of New York, Connecticut. There's talent in the northeast. Rutgers 353 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: is just a very unsexy place. Yeah, and we'll see 354 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: if if the Scarlet Knights can sex it up. 355 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: So let me build on that, okay, please, As you 356 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: talk about unsexy places, you got a couple of those 357 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: in the Big ten West, don't. 358 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: You, Yeah, I guess, But be more specific, what type 359 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: of unsex do you want? 360 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the Iowahawkeyes, Dan of the Iowha guys, 361 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 2: as we've talked about on our showtime and again kind 362 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: of feels vanilla, kind of feels the same every year. 363 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: They've got some of their own challenges. 364 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, They've obviously had a lot going on 365 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: off the field. Here where do we stand on where 366 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: Kirk ference takes things? 367 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: Explosivo? That's my word, ti, I's you familiar civo? Explosciva? 368 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the band Tenacious D? I am, yes, 369 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: Tenacious D. It's a song by Tenacious D. They say 370 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: explosivo a bunch and it weirdly, I kept saying that 371 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: looking at Iowa and the potential for twenty twenty, Iowa 372 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: finished something like ninety fifth and ninety sixth and explosive 373 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: plays on the ground and through the air, with an 374 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: experienced quarterback, with relatively developed skill players, a good offensive line. 375 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: Tristan Wurf's obviously was the headliner, got drafted pretty early, 376 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: and their ability to generate, or their desire to generate 377 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: explosive plays something that's key in generating and stopping Iowa's 378 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: fantastic on defense at doing But that to me is 379 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: the intrigue point. Is I mean Spencer Petros this year 380 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: is the new quarterback, a big kid from California and 381 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: big arm whatever. But is that offense opening up at all? 382 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: Wisconsin for all of their identity, You know how solidly 383 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: in to Madison, Wisconsin's offensive identity is They've gotten creative. 384 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: They've run RPOs, they've run misdirection, they've spread the ball around. 385 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: Iowa has not. Iowa has decidedly not. And it's is 386 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: there any sort of evolution of this offense. I know 387 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: they lose key guys on defense on all levels, but 388 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: to me, I'm not worried about their defense. It's offensively, 389 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: what can they do to put a scare into teams 390 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: that basically all kept Iowa under thirty points last year? 391 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: They didn't score a touchdown in their first seven quarters 392 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: in October last year against Michigan and Penn State. If 393 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: you're an Iowa fan watching this, go back to how 394 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: you felt during those seven quarters in which your very 395 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: experienced quarterback Nate Stanley was unable and we knew his 396 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: ability was there to lead Iowa to the end zone. 397 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: That those types of streaks can't happen anymore, ty if 398 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: Iowa was going to win this division. No, it's true. 399 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: That's the intrigue point. How are they getting the ball downfield? Quicker? 400 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: Iowa for a long time has challenged for the Big 401 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 2: Ten West. This year, I think you could make a 402 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: very real. 403 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: Case for Minnesota. 404 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: Minnesota is a veteran team, maybe not so much on defense, 405 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: but they've obviously got a huge Week one matchup at 406 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: home against Michigan. Are you buying in on the Gophers? 407 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: Where's your intrigue point there? 408 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: Linebackers and defense in general, just because they were so 409 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: disruptive in that back seven, and the corners are in 410 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: pretty good shape. I know they're replacing safeties including Antoine Winfield, 411 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: but their linebackers were so disruptive and so havocy. Because 412 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: they return what they return on offense with a new 413 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, I'm not terribly worried about the Gopher offense. 414 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: What it is to me is the defense. What it 415 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: is to me is what they look like in that 416 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: first half against Penn State. Do they have that same 417 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: ceiling this year? As this has to be their year 418 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: with Tanner Morgan as a senior this has to be 419 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: their year with what they return on offense, and it 420 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: can be, but I think it largely is going to 421 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: come down to how well and how deep they are 422 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: at linebacker and safety, and that, to me is the 423 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: big intrigue point. Is what does Minnesota do to build 424 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: upon and not just start out seven to zero and 425 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: lose a couple late to you know, Iowa or whoever, Wisconsin. 426 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: What do they look like in terms of getting over 427 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: that November hump that to me or December hump as 428 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: it were this year, That to me is fascinating about Minnesota. 429 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And as I said, Minnesota's Week one opponent is Michigan, 430 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: who is intriguing on a number of different fronts for me. 431 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: You know, we've been in this very weird kind of 432 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: whip saw state with Jim Harbaugh, where from year to 433 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 2: year we expect different things. Now, expectations are always high 434 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: at Michigan. Last year was supposed to be the year 435 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: that if they were going to pull off that win 436 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 2: over Ohio State, it was going to happen. Well it didn't, 437 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: and so now we're in this COVID era where there's 438 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: a lot of turnover. We've got Dylan McCaffrey sitting out. 439 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: We've got an entire offensive line that needs to be rebooted. 440 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: We've got more turnover. 441 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: Than usual on the defensive side of the ball. I 442 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: love Big Joe Milton. 443 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: I love Big Joe Milton, six five and a half, 444 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: two thirty, A mountain of a man. He's huge, what 445 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 2: has all the throws? He can really spin it down right. 446 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, I just my intrigue point with Michigan is 447 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: how much they can rebuild, retool, re whatever, very quickly 448 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: in a weird pandemic state, get themselves together in time 449 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: for what should still be a pretty significantly difficult Big 450 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 2: Tenie slate of games here. I have my doubts against Minnesota. 451 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 2: I have my doubts against some of the others on 452 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: their side of the conference as well. And it's probably 453 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: not fair to burden Jim Harbaugh with unrealistic expectations in 454 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: this year twenty twenty season, just because I do feel 455 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 2: like Michigan's in a much different spot than we've seen 456 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: them over the last five years or so. 457 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: I would imagine Jim Harbaugh's expectations are higher than yours. 458 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: I'm sure they are. I'm sure they are, absolutely so yeah, 459 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: that to me feels right enough. The intrigu point is 460 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: Joe Milton. The intrigue point is Joe Milton. Even though 461 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: the Michigan defense has struggled in those games, you know, 462 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: last year against Wisconsin, the past couple years against Ohio State, 463 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: excellence at quarterback has escaped the Jim Harbaugh era at Michigan. 464 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: I know the last two thirds of the Jake Rudock 465 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: season were interesting. Interesting doesn't beat Ohio State. It just doesn't. 466 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: Excellence at quarterback beats Ohio State and covers for other issues. 467 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: That to me is the entrigue point from Michigan. 468 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: And look, I like Zach Sharboney. I think he was 469 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: great last year. I like Sean Haskins, I think he 470 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: sawid as well. 471 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: It helps real nice. 472 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: It helps to have that running game that you could 473 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: lean on. But without the line, with a new quarterback, 474 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: there's just too many variables on that offense to really 475 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: feel great about it. And again, as I said, I 476 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 2: trust the defense generally over the course of the season, 477 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 2: but there is a little bit more turnover there than 478 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 2: I think we're used to. 479 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: So entry moved to another Okay, can we move to 480 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: another beleaguered head coach. 481 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: Please Scott Frost, Scottie Scotti too hoty. 482 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: My hope for Nebraska is entertainment on one side of 483 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: the ball, like we saw glimpses of now a couple 484 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: of years ago, so I don't like looking too far 485 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: into the past. My intrigue point is if Adrian Martinez 486 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: is healthy, who is he throwing to? We know about 487 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: Wandelle Robinson. They lose JD Spielman. He transfers out kind 488 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: of late in the process. He goes to I think TCU, 489 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: who's catching Adrian Martinez passes? They have a JC guy. 490 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: I know they like a lot. They've got a couple 491 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: of recruits, I mean not recruits, but freshman younger players 492 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: that they like a lot. But Nebraska's first step towards 493 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: competitiveness ish in the Big Ten West. I have to 494 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: add a lot of issues to discussion of Nebraska football. 495 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: They have to be entertaining on offense. They have to 496 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: be a threat on offense. And I watched good Scott 497 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: Frost offenses at Oregon. We all watched good Scott Frost 498 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: offenses at UCF. The defense is going to be pushed 499 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: around once again. I like their secondary a little bit, actually, 500 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: but up front they're going to be pushed around a 501 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: little bit, and that happens, they're going to allow points. 502 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: They can't lose like they did to Minnesota. They can't 503 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: lose like they did to Ohio State. And even if 504 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: it's losing by twenty instead of thirty, that's something that's 505 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: something for it. Give me a half of competitive football, 506 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: give me ount at halftime, twenty four to twenty. Yes, 507 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: you've given up twenty four points, but you're kind of 508 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: right there. That's my entry point for Nebraska is make 509 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: the scoreboard ops work a little bit, please, just please. 510 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: I am intrigued by Nebraska as well, and not even 511 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: so much within the context of this season. They got 512 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: a brutal, brutal Big Ten slate in front of them 513 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: this year. 514 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: I'm not even thirteen points against Northwestern last year. I know, 515 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: I know. 516 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 2: And then they spoke up after some of the some 517 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 2: of the COVID decisions by the conference. Time will probably 518 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 2: tell us whether or not this scheduling situation was intentional, 519 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: but they did draw a very tough slate. It will 520 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: not make Scott Frost's life any easier. I do think 521 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: that he is the right guy for the job. I 522 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: really do. I think if you're Nebraska, you're not going 523 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: to do much better than Scott Frost. So I think 524 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: you give them time. I hope they're patient with you. 525 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: You don't think Nebraska did better with Bo Polini, Well, no, 526 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: here do I do. 527 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: I think that to build this program back up from 528 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: where it's been okay. I think Scott Frost can get 529 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: them there and will get them there with the benefit 530 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: of time. I just hope that the patience is there 531 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: among the powers that be to give him that time 532 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 2: to go and build this thing the right way, because 533 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: I do have a lot of faith in him as 534 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: a coach. 535 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: It's just going to take some time to get there. 536 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: It seems to me they need to win at least two, 537 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: probably three. I'm looking at their schedule. That's why I'm 538 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: looking down right now at Ohio State, Wisconsin, at Northwestern 539 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: Penn State Illinois. Okay, if they can go three and 540 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: two at home, if they can sneak by Northwestern Illinois 541 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: and Wisconsin, if Wisconsin's still sort of unsettled early on 542 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: at quarterback Grammartz isn't comfortable, Yeah, Yeah, that's encouraging. That's really, 543 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: even if they lose big to Ohio State and Penn 544 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: State whatever. 545 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: No. 546 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: Three and two is really really nice. I don't think 547 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: it's unreasonable given No, I don't think three, four or 548 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: five whatever it is now whatever it feels like? Yeah, right, 549 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: who do you want to go to? Is there another 550 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: beleaguered coach? Is there another offense? Is another offense that 551 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: needs a spark? Who is well for you? We didn't 552 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: talk about Ohio State yet? 553 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I don't know how we can go this 554 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: deep without talking to Ohio State. And the intrigue point 555 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: for me, I don't have a matchup, you know, I don't. 556 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: I don't have a thing with Ohio State. That's like, oh, 557 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: that's the that's the gotcha, that's the Achilles heel. I 558 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 2: am intrigued by style points because keep in mind the 559 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: setting in. 560 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: Which the Big Ten is going to be playing these 561 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: football games. 562 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: All the other conferences outside of the Pac twelve obviously 563 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: have started up already have started planting their respective flags. 564 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: Clemson won a game by you know, sixty six odd points, 565 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: however many it was, and certainly Alabama has a few 566 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: big wins on its schedule at resume ready, Yeah, Ohio 567 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: State needs to come in late to the party and 568 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: prove itself. So you know, sure they've got turnover at 569 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: some spots and the secondary maybe we have questions about it, 570 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: but I think ultimately there's gonna be a pretty strong 571 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: impetus to score as many points as possible whenever possible, 572 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: and so I think that means big stats for justin 573 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: fields as we saw a year ago. I think that 574 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: means wherever they can possibly rip the arms and legs 575 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: off you, they're gonna do just that. The gap between 576 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 2: Ohio State and I think the next closest team and 577 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: or teams in the Big Ten is whoever, it is 578 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: substantially wider than it was a year ago, and so 579 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: I just think they're going to run rough shot through 580 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: the conference. I think they're gonna score a ton of points, 581 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: and I expect to see them not just holding up 582 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: that Big Ten trophy, but eventually making it into the 583 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: playoffs and really making a name for themselves. 584 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: So your intrigue point is murder potential. Murder potential. 585 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: They are college football's murder hornets this year. 586 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: Who is the team that they are least likely to murder? 587 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: Is that Penn State Week two in an empty Beaver Stadium. 588 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: I think so, I think so. Yeah. 589 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: I have a lot of confidence in Penn State. I 590 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: think the ceiling is pretty high. I think the floor 591 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: is pretty high because of their defense and what they've 592 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: got coming back on offense. Now, sure that being said, 593 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: my three points of concern for Penn State are a 594 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 2: a giving up big plays on defense, which is sort 595 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: of a byproduct of the defense that Brent Prye runs. 596 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: There's a risk reward element to it where big plays 597 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: are sometimes a thing that you get, so they need 598 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: to cut down on that obviously if they want to 599 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: beat a team like in Ohio State. They also lose 600 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: Micah Parsons. Micah Parsons opting out for twenty twenty. I 601 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: don't blame the kid. I think they've got enough depth 602 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 2: without him to still play a really good branded defense, 603 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: but it hurts not to have him out there, So 604 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: how they replace that gap is of concern of interest 605 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 2: to me. I think they'll be okay, but again I'm 606 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: watching that intently and look on the offensive side, we 607 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: know about Journey Brown being out medical condition won't be 608 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: there for twenty twenty. I think they're fine from a 609 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: depth perspective. What I really care about is the passing game, 610 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: and especially about Sean Clifford finding targets out wide to 611 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: throw two new offensive coordinator friend, he doesn't know it, 612 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: but favorite of the solid verbal Kirk Shiraka. 613 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: I think his offense. 614 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: Is more streamlined, it's more simplified. He will find ways 615 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: to better utilize a guy like a Pat Fryarmuth. But 616 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 2: ultimately a lot rides on. 617 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: A lot of our stuff in Minnesota, for sure. 618 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely a lot rides on whether or not Sean Clifford 619 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: can be better with the football and show up in 620 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: bigger spots than they did last year. So intrigued to 621 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: see his progression. But I don't think they're going to 622 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 2: get murdered by Ohio State. 623 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, not terribly concerned. But we saw what happened with 624 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: the Penn State offense last year, especially when they lost 625 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: Sean Clifford, who was himself not all that good against 626 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: Ohio State. This is this is an offense that can 627 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: go into a shell pretty quickly. So hopefully we don't 628 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: see that anymore in those big games for Penn State. 629 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Purdue. Let's talk about Purdue one, because 630 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: they have given Ohio State some trouble in recent years 631 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: to have that's right, they have. We're talking about the 632 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: Purdue boiler Makers and two we mentioned, you know, winter 633 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: wonders for Wisconsin. Purdue has those dudes out wide. I 634 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: think in Rondel Moore and you know you If Rondelle 635 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: Moore can do that against Ohio State during the regular season, 636 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: I imagine he can do it against somebody later on 637 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: in the year, perhaps in December or January, if Purdue 638 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: ever makes it there. Purdue is fascinating to me because 639 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,959 Speaker 1: what do those two receivers, David Bell and Rondel Moore, 640 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: what do they do for that offense? This was an offense. 641 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: This was a Purdue team that was so beset by 642 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: injuries last year that just crushed their season. I don't 643 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: love where they are on defense. They've still given up 644 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: too much and I don't think health fully solves everything. 645 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: But what can those two guys on offense do gravitationally 646 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: for Purdue? What can they do for I don't know 647 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: if it's going to be Plumber or Aidan O'Connell Jack Plumber, 648 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: Aid and O'Connell at quarterback, what can they do for 649 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: the running game? What can they do for each other, 650 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: What can they do for the middle of the field. 651 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: Because Purdue is another one of those teams that I 652 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: think they're ahead of Nebraska when healthy, just because of 653 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: they've proven it on the field. They've proven that they 654 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: can be competitive, They've proven that they can beat big teams. 655 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: It's just a week to week thing. What does that 656 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: gravitational consistency look like for that offense? To me, it's 657 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: fascinating Perdue. When they are healthy and fully operational and weaponized, 658 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: they're a great watch that's weaponized. Purdue is not something. Yeah, 659 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: we've heard a whole lot drum. I don't know if 660 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: the big drum is going to be on the field 661 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: this year, but they do love the big drums somewhere 662 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: on that campus. They do. 663 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: And I love that Rondell Moore is playing. You know, 664 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: opted out initially, he's coming back down. Yeah, he's one 665 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 2: of one of the more exciting players in college football. 666 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: And it's cool that cool that. 667 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 2: We get to see him after all after a lot 668 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 2: of doubt. 669 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: Here. I want to talk about Northwestern. 670 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 2: Because I know you're very close to Northwestern University. Now, 671 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: just geographically speaking, how do we feel about Northwestern. We 672 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 2: didn't feel great about them last year. Is there any 673 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: pulse in that Wildcat program? 674 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: That was a really nice thing. You just said we 675 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: didn't feel great because we did. They were terrible. Okay, 676 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: that's probably more accurate new offensive coordinators. The intrigued point 677 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: to me is Peyton Ramsey as a quarterback who I 678 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: think finished? Was he one of the best? Was he 679 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: top five Big Ten quarterback last year? Which automatically makes 680 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: him an even higher ranked quarterback in the Big Ten? Yeah? 681 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: Inner Morgan, justin fields, Jay Patterson. Maybe, I don't know, 682 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: Like the it fell up pretty quickly in the Big Ten. 683 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: Unbelieving Ramsey is. He's an accurate quarterback. I think he 684 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: completed sixty five percent of his passes against Big Ten teams. 685 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: He's efficient, he doesn't make a ton of mistakes. His 686 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: ceiling is not particularly high. But what does Northwestern need 687 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: at quarterback? If their defense is okay, Northwestern's down there 688 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL prospect Rashaun Slater left tackle, so that 689 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: hurts them. What do they have in terms of game 690 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: changers on offense? It's not going to be a lot, 691 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: but that's not how they're going to win the offense 692 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: is there to be relatively efficient and serve the defense, 693 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: which is fine. They won the division a couple of 694 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: years ago. If they get pretty good quarterback play, it 695 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: feels like they're forty times better than where they were 696 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, that to me is intriguing. If Peyton 697 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 1: Ramsey of twenty twenty looks like Peyton Ramsey of twenty nineteen. 698 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: I know it's a lot to ask with the issues 699 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 1: that have surrounded this Northwestern offense for years, but that 700 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: is raising the floor considerably from where it's been. Yeah, no, 701 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 702 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: And while we talk about floors, why don't we talk 703 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 2: about Maryland? Okay, let's you know, how like you see 704 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: in movies when somebody yells fire and everybody runs out 705 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: of the movie theater like a stampede. That was sort 706 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: of what happened at Maryland this offseason. They had just 707 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 2: an incredible number of guys run for the exits. It's 708 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,919 Speaker 2: not uncommon whenever you've got a new coaching regime taking over, 709 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: but it was pretty drastic. And so the intrigue point 710 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 2: for me on the Maryland side is not anything to 711 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 2: do with wins and losses. But we know Mike Loxley 712 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 2: knows the area. We've joked about that our fantasy things. 713 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 1: Mike Axley knows the DMV. 714 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 2: He knows the DMV, and I do think that if 715 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 2: given some time, he can build up an interesting roster 716 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 2: and move the program forward. It's not going to happen 717 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 2: this year. My point of intrigue is at the quarterback position. 718 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 2: It's at the quarterback position because we've got on one hand, 719 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 2: Lance Lejon, my favorite Frenchman in all of college football. 720 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 2: Don't know if he's French, certainly sounds that way. He 721 00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: was a four star recruit. 722 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: For a long New Orleans, so right he was. 723 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: He was a four star recruit in Locksley's first recruiting class, 724 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: and there is obviously a lot of excitement around him, 725 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 2: as well as Taliah Tongue of Ioloa Tonga. 726 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: They have a Tonga I looa, they have a Tonga, 727 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: but they do have a. 728 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah Tua of course playing for the Miami Dolphins. The 729 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 2: younger brother, Talia is now playing with Mike Loxley, who 730 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: did coach older brother Tua for some period of time 731 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 2: before he left Alabama. 732 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 1: So right now, at. 733 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 2: Time of recording, it's an either or situation on the 734 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: depth chart, it's either le Jean or tongue of Ia Looa. 735 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: We'll see who ends up getting more time. But that 736 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 2: interplay between those two and how Locksley chooses to. 737 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: Deploy each is of particular interest to me. Okay, they god, 738 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: they give a fifty four points, seventy three points, thirty 739 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 1: eight fifty two. So yeah, I think the defense probably 740 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: has for the to go to be very obvious. But yeah, offensively, 741 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: there's talent there, there's speed there, there's recent talent in 742 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: speed there. Yeah, and so they brought in what a 743 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: blue chip receiver, a five star receiver this year. It's 744 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,919 Speaker 1: slowly but surely becoming intriguing. I don't know if it's 745 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: intriguing this week, next week, in the week after, but 746 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: there is some intrigue to College Park. 747 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: I would say I would agree. I would agree the 748 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 2: last team that I who do you have? 749 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,479 Speaker 1: The last team that I have disrespected somebody Michigan State, 750 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: maybe Michigan State. So Michigan State's in an incredibly weird situation. 751 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: Michigan State had their longtime head football coach Marked Antonio 752 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: resign abruptly on February the second of this very calendar year. 753 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: They move quickly. They probably overpaid. 754 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: A little bit to bring Meltucker up from Colorado, but 755 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 2: they got their guy, so mel Tucker. Mel Tucker takes 756 00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: over in February, tries to get things go as quickly 757 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 2: as possible. We talked to their social media director on 758 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 2: one of our shows this offseason. But obviously there's this 759 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 2: whole pandemic thing on top of it. So, on top 760 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 2: of the fact that there was a late coaching change, 761 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 2: which is always brutal for a program, we now have 762 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 2: this very awkward quarantine period where teams just have not 763 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 2: been able to get out there and do their thing 764 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 2: and learn the new system and mesh together and be 765 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 2: one as a team. So that does not bode well 766 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,959 Speaker 2: for Michigan State, at least in the early going here 767 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 2: with regard to what are they going to do on 768 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 2: the field, what's the output going to be? That being said, 769 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: I am very intrigued in this being stylistically a different 770 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 2: offense because for a long time it's been a lot 771 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 2: more points is that the new style, well, I just 772 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: think I just think the tempo that I expect to 773 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 2: see Jay Johnson comes along with mel Tucker from Colorado. 774 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 2: The results in year one were if he okay, but mixed. 775 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 2: There is a tempo component to the offense that I 776 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 2: think they want to run that we frankly have not 777 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 2: seen at Michigan State. So that contrast from what we've 778 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 2: seen in years past out of a D'Antonio offense, to 779 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 2: me is of particular intrigue here. I'm curious to see 780 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 2: some of the new faces in new spaces. Certainly Elijah 781 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 2: College had a great freshman year, almost rushing for one 782 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 2: thousand yards. To now see what they put around him, 783 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 2: and just the general tenor of that offense to me 784 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 2: is pretty interesting. 785 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: For a team last year against Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State, 786 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: and Michigan they scored ten, zero, seven and ten points. No, 787 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: you're right, the entry point has to be offense. Just 788 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: because we can't watch another year this. No, it's impossible. 789 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: We cannot watch another year of Michigan State falling from 790 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 1: playoff team from conference contender, not even just a vision 791 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: const a conference contender. They've won the Big Ten. They 792 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: forced Urban Meyer to eat crappy Papa John's pizza and 793 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 1: a golf cart. Yeah, to where they've fallen. Offensively, they're 794 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: extremely efficient, not always flashy but extremely efficient at their 795 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, the early twenty teams or whatever. I offense 796 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 1: is an intrigue. But if they can just rise to 797 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: below average and then maintain some semblance of what their 798 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: defense has been, which has been all pretty impressive considering 799 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: what the offense hasn't been giving them, that's intriguing. That's intriguing. 800 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: Mel Tucker has a really good defensive reputation. There is talent, 801 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: but if the talent has fallen off at Michigan State, 802 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how well that offense can serve 803 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: the defense just by staying on the field. Just stay 804 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: on the field. Get get a field goal here, you know, 805 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,439 Speaker 1: give them rest, get three first downs on a drive 806 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: and then punt. That to me is the very base 807 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: level intrigue for Michigan State's offense. It's a low bar tie. 808 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: Did we cover all the teams? I believe so? Did 809 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: you cover all of your teams? You want to come 810 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: it out and check it off. I've got Ohio. 811 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,919 Speaker 2: State, Penn State, Michigan, Indiana, Michigan State, Rutgers, and Marya. 812 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: I think we covered it. Yeah, I have Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, Perdue, 813 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: Northwestern Illinois, we're a set. Do you have a big 814 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,720 Speaker 1: ten West runner up to Ohio State or perhaps somebody 815 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: who is going to win the conference that is not 816 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 1: Ohio State. 817 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,959 Speaker 2: Ohio State is going to win the conference. Ohio State 818 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 2: is far and away the best team in the conference. 819 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 2: I still think you got to go Wisconsin, but I'm 820 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 2: very intrigued by Minnesota. Minnesota, to me, is that team 821 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 2: that if they can get their defense together, there is 822 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: certainly more than enough firepower on that offense, especially with 823 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 2: Rashad Bateman now opting back in. You've got a highly 824 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 2: efficient quarterback in ten Or Morgan, a good running game. 825 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 2: There are enough pieces there that I think we can 826 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 2: rely on and count on that they are a formidable opponent, 827 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 2: formidable challenger to Wisconsin. 828 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: My big grower is Purdue. My big grower is Perdue. 829 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: My big faller might be Penn State. I could see it. 830 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: I could see it. I could see it. I think 831 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: the lack of obvious weapons, perhaps outside of your boy 832 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: baby Gronk on offense, and with Journey Brown now unable 833 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: to play this year, and defense losing their clear best player, 834 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: losing a couple pieces up front, Penn State has me 835 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: worried Penn State has me worried, just because I'm going 836 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: to need a substantial jump from Sean Clifford to feel 837 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: really good about them all season long. And I don't 838 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: know if I say it, that could be my foller. 839 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 2: What I like about Clifford, especially in the new system, 840 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 2: is that he brings a little bit more mobility than 841 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 2: Tanner Morgan. And you know what Shiraka can do with 842 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 2: that mobility and especially having a big tight end that 843 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 2: that could be interesting with that offense. Did really have 844 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 2: that at Minnesota, So definitely a new dimension that he 845 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 2: can explore. But I think you're right, You're right to 846 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 2: question Penn State eight. It does hurt to lose Micah Parsons. 847 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 2: But I will add that the defense does bring a 848 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 2: lot back. 849 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 1: So they've recruited and developed so well on defense. Yeah, yeah, 850 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: it's yeah. The road schedule's nice at Nebraska and Michigan 851 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: at Ruckers, okay, and they obviously open at Indiana. But 852 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm worried a little bit worried about the offense. 853 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 2: All right, Dan, I don't think I have a sound 854 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 2: As the uh big ten information dust is loaded into 855 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 2: our our capsule travel bag, I don't know what the 856 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 2: terminology is here, but. 857 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: It's our toiletry bag, our toiletry, it's our space toiletry bag. 858 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah that I don't have a sound for it, but. 859 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 2: We do hope that everyone here enjoyed our commentary on 860 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,399 Speaker 2: the Big Ten. We would also add that we are 861 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,959 Speaker 2: doing some fun and cool and just engaging stuff out 862 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 2: on our Patreon, which you can find at verballers dot com. 863 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 2: I know we've talked through the tiers a bunch of 864 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 2: times and things and perks that you can get, but 865 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 2: it's going to be an exciting weekend, if only on 866 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,399 Speaker 2: the Discord channel, because we've got the Big Ten coming back. 867 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 2: As you said at the top, he got the Mountain 868 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 2: West coming back. We got a game day thread where 869 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: people are going to be just giving us real time 870 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 2: commentary as to what's going on as they watch their 871 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 2: games and their respective parts of the world. It's not 872 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 2: just the US, it's really the world. Got folks are 873 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,919 Speaker 2: all over in there, so it's a ton of fun 874 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 2: to be there on game day and just talk through 875 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,240 Speaker 2: things with the verbaler hood and as if you needed 876 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 2: any further reminders, four toh eight Verbal one is our 877 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 2: reverblind four oh eight eight three seven two two five 878 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 2: to one. That's where you can call in, leave us 879 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 2: your stream of consciousness response to what's going on in 880 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,479 Speaker 2: your neck of the woods on college football game day, 881 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,760 Speaker 2: and then we'll try to cut them up, put them together, 882 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 2: and play them on Sunday. 883 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: That sounds like a plan to METI. I am excited 884 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: for this big ten season. I am hopeful that we 885 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 1: get all sorts of good football, maybe new football, maybe 886 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: teams stepping up that we were not expecting them to, 887 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,359 Speaker 1: maybe teams taking a step back but then coming back 888 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 1: and looking better than we thought they were going to be. 889 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful for suspense, Ty, That's what I want. Suspense. Yeah. 890 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 2: All right, Well, we thank you all so very much 891 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 2: for downloading the show. 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