1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Poppin' Packs, a special bonus No Dunk's podcast, 2 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: where every week I talk to a legend from the 3 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: NBA world on Instagram Live. This week was a beauty 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: as I busted open a pack of ninety one ninety 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: two skybox with Atlanta Hawks high flyer and Hall of Fame. 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: At Dominique Wilkins. 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Of course, we talked about his incredible battles with Larry 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: Bird over the years, why Bob Lanier wouldn't speak to 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Nick for nine whole years, and who Dominqu's teammate was 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: on the All Star All Style Team. 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: I bet you hadn't heard about that one before. So 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: here it is. 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: Sit back and enjoy the next half an hour of 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: me and Dominique Wilkins. 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: Waiting for Dominqu Wilkins. 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: Let's see, let's see if this one works connecting. 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: Here you go, Here we go. 18 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: Finally we got there. We got there? 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: All right? 20 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: How you doing, man? 21 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: Good? How are you fine? 22 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: Thanks? Thanks very much for joining me today. 23 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 3: No problem, no problem. How's it going? 24 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: Oh well, you know what it's like here in Atlanta. 25 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: It's always hot, so it's I've got my shirt ready 26 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: to go though. This should keep me cool. 27 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: There you go. 28 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 2: Oh, I got a special one here, got a special 29 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: one here. 30 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: So the way this goes, Nick is, I've got a 31 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: pack of old basketball cards from ninety one to ninety 32 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: two season their skybox. And what I'll do is I'll 33 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: give you some clues and hopefully you can guess who 34 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: the player is and maybe you can tell us a 35 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: story or. 36 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: Two about them. 37 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 3: See what happens. 38 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Now, just before we get started, I want to 39 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: say congratulations because I saw a couple of months ago 40 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: you were part of a world record, Guinness World Record, 41 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: which one was that? The continual jumping and jogging and 42 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: running for Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 43 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: For a culture city. Yeah. 44 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: And you know it's for a great cause for autism 45 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: people dealing with sensory needs, so wonderful. 46 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: It's a wonderful thing. 47 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, congratulations, that's a that's a that's a great 48 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: way to be productive during this during this crazy quarantine 49 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: situation that we're all we're all dealing with right now. Okay, 50 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: so the first one here, let me get these cards 51 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: out here. The first one is a guy who I 52 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: remember him mostly for his time at the Indiana Place. 53 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: Is a big guy. He's like six', ten sort of 54 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: a forward. CENTER i think he was drafted in the 55 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: same draft as. 56 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: You actually he was a couple of Star oh, yeah 57 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 2: there you. Go you're off to a good. Start. Yeah 58 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: what do you know About LaSalle. 59 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 4: Thompson oh he's and tell you what a funny. GUY i, 60 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: mean a great friend of. Mine we go back a long. 61 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: Way like you, said we all came out of college. 62 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 4: Together and he was drafted the same. Year he's he 63 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 4: was a brute, boy he. 64 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 3: Was he a strong. 65 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: Guy, yeah, yeah he PLAYED i Think Kansas city is 66 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: in his early. 67 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: DAYS i, believe yeah he. Did he was At Kansas. 68 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: City all, Right, okay good start. 69 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: Here, okay this next guy, HERE i remember him mainly 70 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: he was kind of a backup point guard In seattle 71 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: and then he played some good years for The lakers 72 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: as their point guard After Magic johnson retitles after The Showtime. 73 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: Lakers he he's actually From, atlanta BUT i believe he's From. 74 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: Marietta this guy when Of sudel three poor there you, go, 75 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: yeah local, Boy. 76 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Yeah suddel AND i you, know we played 77 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: a lot of summer ball together In atlanta and a 78 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 4: lot of summer leagues played on some of the same teams, 79 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 4: together played against each. 80 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: Other he was he was a solid point. Guy. 81 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: YEAH i think he's actually out In australia right now 82 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Where i'm, from In. MELBOURNE i think he lives out 83 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: there right, NOW a long way from. 84 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: Home, yeah a long way from. Home he's coaching one 85 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: of his. 86 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: KIDS i think out, there all, right this next, guy, 87 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: well this is a this is a good card to 88 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: get because this guy was a great shop, block a great, 89 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: Defender hall Of, famer, CHAMPION. 90 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: Mvp he's done it all in THE nba and he 91 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: played for one. 92 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: Team but he actually when he got, drafted it took 93 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: him three YEARS i think before he actually played in 94 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: THE nba because he was finishing off his education in The. 95 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: Navy David, Romson oh, Yeah David. 96 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: Robinson there you. 97 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: GO i played With david, too towards the end of my. Career. 98 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: Yeah and you, know besides the basketball, Player David robinson 99 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 4: is a wonderful. GUY i, mean he's that's a hell 100 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 4: of a human human being and glad to, being you, 101 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: know friends with him all these years and had a 102 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 4: chance to play with him a short, time you, know 103 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: at the end of my career but it was it 104 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 4: was a fun time In San. 105 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: Antonio you, Know, nick WHEN i was WHEN i was 106 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: looking back over some of your highlights on, YouTube there's 107 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: like there's like compilations over ten minutes long of you 108 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: dunking on, guys and you Got David robinson one. 109 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: TIME i remember here In. 110 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: Atlanta he kind of, yeah, yeah, Yeah but there's a 111 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: there's a bit of a trend there BECAUSE i saw 112 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: you got guys Like mark eaton seven. 113 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: Four there's a double pump On Ralph sampson in traffic 114 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: seven to. Four, guy these are two headed. 115 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: DUNKS i, mean did you see those guys as, like you, 116 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: know challenges or, like. 117 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 4: Well you know, what as AS i, fly you love 118 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 4: dunking on big. Guys, yeah that was the, thrill you, 119 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: know that's what really got you. Going and when if 120 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: you could dump dunk on a seven footer, man you know, 121 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: what it was something that changes change the. Game it 122 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 4: would get your guys ready to, go you, know and 123 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 4: bring that. 124 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: Energy so for, me it was a tool for. 125 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 4: Intimidation it wasn't the end all be all with, me 126 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 4: but it was a. 127 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: Way to back big guys, up keep wanting to challenge my. Shot. 128 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: YEAH i also noticed as, well like when you've don't 129 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: you really tried to like smash the ball. Home was 130 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: that also trying to send a message to defenders like 131 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: if you want to try to block, this you might 132 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: lose a finger or two. 133 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: Here, yeah that's exactly what it. Was that's exactly what it. 134 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 4: Was the harder you dunk on, guys and when you 135 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: went to the rack with reckless abandon it turned a 136 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: lot of guys a lot of times not to challenge your. Shots, 137 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 4: yeah that's basically what it was for. 138 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 2: Me was there one you? 139 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: KNOW i mean, AGAIN i know there's a lot out 140 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: there that we that are famous, dunk you, know but 141 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: is there one that sort of people have forgotten about 142 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: that's one of your old time. 143 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: Fighters, man it's been a, lot it's been a. 144 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: LOT i think the one we kid about And Bob 145 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 4: lanail AND i kid about it all the. Time it 146 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: was the one against him that for nine years after, 147 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: That donkey did not speak to me. 148 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 3: Until after we. Retire but that was iconic, moment you. 149 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: Know so that was that was an interesting. Time that's the. 150 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: Baseline one way you kind of catch him and throw it. 151 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 4: Up, well the thing WAS i WHEN i went to 152 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: the middle and got cut, OFF i came back. BASELINE 153 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: i jumped And Bob lanier covered the rim with both, 154 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: hands and as he was coming, DOWN i was still going, 155 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 4: up SO i turned in the air and turned my 156 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: body back. Around when he was coming, DOWN i WAS 157 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 4: i threw it down at then the. Game we won the, 158 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: game and yeah he. Did he didn't like me for. 159 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: A very long. 160 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: TIME i hope to you now. 161 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: That oh, yeah we're, real very, gruffling, unbelievable. 162 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 4: Respectful boblay a, wonderful, great great, Player hall Of fame type. 163 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 4: Player and uh he was fun to play against because 164 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: he was another guy that. 165 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: Was, yeah got this next. 166 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: Guy, uh this guy is another athletic, guard big, jumper big. 167 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: Dunker he used to dunk a up with his left 168 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: hand even though he was a right handed. Player you 169 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: remember him mostly for The Charlotte. Hornets he played for The. 170 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: Sonics he played for The New Jersey. Nets, yeah big 171 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: six eight guy out Of. 172 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: Chicago, wow that's a good, One, Okay AND i know 173 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: who this is. Too he was at a dunk. 174 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: Contest he was in a dunk. CONTEST i think maybe 175 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: in his rookie season In. 176 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: Charlotte m, hm he's still in great. 177 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: Shape i'll say that IF i don't know if you 178 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: if you see him On, instagram but he's still in great. 179 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: Shape he's he's in his early. Fifties but, yeah very athletic. 180 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: Guy six. 181 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: Eight, yeah started his career with the, hornets went to The, 182 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: sonics moved to the. 183 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: Nets and then where did he where did he finish his? 184 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: Career we, uh, oh that's a good. One that's a good. 185 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: ONE i can't think of who that one is. 186 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: Flying a line. Eye Kendall, Gill. 187 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: Kendall, gill Oh, Man, yes you're absolutely, yeah he. Did 188 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: he dunked a lot with his left he sure you, 189 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: Know kendall was an athletic. Guy oh, yeah and for, 190 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: me he wasn't quite six or eight by the, way 191 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 4: he was not quite six. 192 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: Eight but he was a high. 193 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: Fly what's he listed at? Here you know? What you 194 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: know What i'm, Wrong i'm, Wrong you're. Right it says 195 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: here he's only listed at six. 196 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: Five. 197 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: He was a. 198 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: Little smaller he was a little smaller. 199 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: Than, us, yeah yeah, All, right well this, next one this, 200 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: is uh this is a great ONE because i THINK 201 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: if i, REMEMBER correctly i saw one time that the 202 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: first time you played against, this guy you went to 203 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: shake his hand and he held his hands behind his 204 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: back and he. 205 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 3: Told you. 206 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: He told you you don't even belong to. The league is, 207 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 2: That Right? 208 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: Larry, BIRD yeah, i mean, You know larry was a 209 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 4: guy who tried to get into, your head especially if 210 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 4: you're a young guy coming IN. The nba but one thing, he, 211 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: did uh it was a PLAY that i came DOWN 212 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: and I and i went to the rack really HARD 213 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: because i was really mad because he was kicking out 214 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 4: BUTT and i don't. On him he fouled Me and, 215 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: I'm talking. I'm pointing, he, said, HEY rook i. 216 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: Like you you? 217 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 4: Got heart anybody really said he said, something else but, 218 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: he said you know you Got heart and, he Said 219 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: but i'm still getting. 220 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: Thirty five. 221 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: But, you know but after that he showed me the. 222 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 4: Utmost respect never talked to ask. To me, after that 223 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: we had some. Iconic battles, OH. 224 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah i mean again when you when whenever you type 225 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: in your name on YouTube brings, up obviously you know 226 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: the big one in, eighty eight the game, SEVEN there 227 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: i mean the thing, you know watching back, AT that 228 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: i know it's, a tough tough loss for, You guys 229 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: but that was a physical, you know that was like a. 230 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: BOXING match, i thought more like You and larry just. 231 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 5: Trading, BLOWS yeah I, MEAN larry, i mean when you talk, 232 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 5: about competitors there's not many guys who ever played this 233 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 5: game was as Competitive As. 234 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 4: Larry bird he had a part Of The LION basketball 235 00:09:55,320 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 4: iq off, the charts and, you know we had some 236 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 4: some historical moments in. 237 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: Our career where where, for you for your, you know, 238 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: your career particularly There, in atlanta where was the toughest place? 239 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: To win was it Like The, Boston Garden Madison, square Garden, 240 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: THE forum I. 241 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: Mean boston garden tough place? To, Win uhh chicago tough. 242 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: To Win Also new york And L, a yeah. Tough 243 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: place and even Places. 244 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 4: Like utah, was very very very tough to win in 245 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 4: places Like. 246 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 6: That. 247 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 4: Detroit YEAH so i could go on and on that 248 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 4: the arenas that you had to bring your. A Game The, denver, 249 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: nuggets man because they all they did was run And 250 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 4: got they would try to break the score the scoreboard, 251 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 4: on you and so you had to be ready to 252 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: match their level, of intensity. 253 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: You know, you know with this bubble concept Happening. In 254 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: orlando there's gonna be. No fans how do you think 255 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: that's going to impact? THE game, i mean there's there's 256 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: gonna be no home. Court advantage you think there's going 257 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 1: to be no sort of crowding. 258 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 4: The, energy well, you know it's definitely gonna impact. The 259 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: game anybody think, it is and. 260 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: You know, they're wrong. 261 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: But you know it's a guy to find some sort, 262 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 4: of normalcy, you know, with everybody these guys who who 263 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 4: are putting their health on the line going down there 264 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: to get ready. TO play i commend all of them, 265 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: on that but it's a Different, no one we have 266 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: never played in competitive basketball where you had. No fans, 267 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: you know you may have played in the place of 268 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 4: where you had few, a few but they're. 269 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: Any fans so it's going to be a, major adjustment you. 270 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: Will say obviously Played in Greece and italy, as well 271 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: where the fans there are probably at a different level 272 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: all together. 273 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: As. 274 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: Well well it's emotional fans in. 275 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 4: THE world, i mean Won The european Championship, in greece 276 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: it was one hundred and fifty thousand people. 277 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: OUT there i was scared, to death but that's how passionate. They, 278 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 3: are yeah? Are? 279 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 2: They like were they smoking in the arena? As well 280 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 2: you know out there. 281 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: Every, arena yeah, every arena. 282 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: EVERY school i was at, the restaurant it did, not matter. 283 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 4: It was it amazed ME when i went to a 284 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 4: couple of high school talk, some kids and every kid 285 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: in there was out there. 286 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: Smoking, CIGARETTES yeah i. Couldn't believe but it's a. Real. 287 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: Life, yeah yeah at a different time. As, well okay this, 288 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: NEXT guy i think he was also taken in the 289 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: same draft. As you he was more a sort of 290 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: point guard. Shooting guard he played For the rockets and 291 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: he played For. The bucks really good, guy defensively got 292 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: a lot, of steels, very good very good with. 293 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: The Ball, the rockets who played For, The, rockets yeah And. 294 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: The bucks he was taken about mid. 295 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: Draft in the same draft, AS you. I, believe yeah 296 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,239 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys who's known mostly, for defensively 297 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: creating steels and just taking care of. 298 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: The ball not not. A superstar i don't think he 299 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: Made An All star game or anything, like that but definitely, a, 300 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: good know a lockdown. Guy defensively. 301 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: Whereas a couple of GUYS that i know that was 302 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: those type. Of guys m with. 303 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 4: ONE guy i think It Was, rob WILLIAMS but i 304 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: don't know IF he i know he played With The 305 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 4: houston rockets at, one POINT but i don't know if 306 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: he played. Anywhere else so that's another. 307 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: Good. 308 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: One yeah This Guy's lester Cunner. 309 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: Ah, man, yes yeah. 310 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: We did we came out at the. Same. 311 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 4: Time, yeah yeah, you know let's let's play with quite 312 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 4: a few teams and had a. Long career like, you 313 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: said he was a lockdown defender, type guy distributor to get. 314 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 4: Everybody involved wasn't much of a big, time, scorer yeah 315 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: but he did all the. 316 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: Other. 317 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: Things, yeah yeah you need those sort of guys on 318 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: the team though out there to make sure they didn't 319 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: give up too. 320 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: Many buckets, yeah yeah. 321 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: All right this, next, guy so, THIS guy, i remember 322 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: he's a Full Time all star and just a lights. 323 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: Out shoe he was a, point guy kind of underrated 324 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: point gud even though he was on some really. Good teams, 325 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: in fact you would have had some good battles against 326 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: this team too in the late eighties early. Nineties there 327 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: this guy was just a free, throw shooter good good, 328 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: point guard, good shooter good distributor came Out Of georgia, 329 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: Tech Too. 330 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: Mark price there. 331 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: You go. 332 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 4: He Was a he wasn't just a Heck of he 333 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 4: was a. Great shooter he was a hell of. A 334 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: shooter i remember when when he was, IN college i 335 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: think it's last year. In college we used play summer 336 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 4: basketball and we had a team that we used to 337 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 4: travel around in. 338 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: The city we had a. Great team nobody, beat us, 339 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: you know uh in that. 340 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: SUMMER league i remember they had a small team that 341 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: come Over From. Georgia Tech And mark price came Over With, 342 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 4: von joseph a lot OF guys i never, heard of 343 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 4: and they beat us by two right in. That Game 344 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 4: And mark price out our, Lights Out and, i'm like 345 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: who in the hell is? 346 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: This? 347 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: Kid yeah. 348 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: You you did hold, A record i know if you 349 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: still do for most free throws made in, one game with. 350 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: TWENTY three i think. 351 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: It, Was, Yeah James james harden just broke it, this year, 352 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 4: twenty four. TWENTY four I mean i said two a, 353 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: YEAR ago, i said you know he's going to. 354 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: Break it. 355 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 4: HE should i mean he gets to the line. A, 356 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: lot yeah we eventually. LAST year I mean i thought 357 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 4: it would have been broken last year but it hell 358 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 4: for twenty. 359 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: Some, years, YEAH yeah i mean the, you know stamina 360 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: mentally to be able to drain those continue to make those, 361 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: shots though must, be tough. 362 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: You know when you're. A, scorer, yeah focus. 363 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: It's focused and when you're a great score you try 364 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 4: to find ways. 365 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: To, Score yeah and the easiest way to score is 366 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: to get to the free. 367 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: THROW line a lot of people would understand that when 368 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 4: you get to the free throw line a lot, of 369 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: time when your game, is struggling those free throws kind 370 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 4: of get you going because now you see the ball 371 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: going through. 372 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 3: The BASKET and i felt LIKE if i didn't more 373 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: than eight free throws, AT night i wasn't. 374 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: Playing hard so my job was to, attack you to 375 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: get fouls. On you so NOW if i get fouls 376 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: on a great, player early creating advantage for myself because 377 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 4: now he don't play me, as hard? 378 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: Did you so it was all about creating. 379 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: The. 380 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: Advantage yeah did you, find though that being a guy 381 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: who got to the free throw line, that sometimes like, 382 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: you know The Bad boy, piston scenes would try, to, 383 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: say well if you're coming in, the paint you're going to. 384 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 4: Feel it, OH yeah, i, MEAN yeah i hit a 385 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 4: few times By, the pistons but, you know, you know 386 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: we hit back and that was. 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A lefty he started With. 424 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: The warriors he bounced around a couple, of teams but 425 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: he's kind, of like, you know he's almost Like A 426 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: mano genobili type Player. 427 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: Before manu not not as good. 428 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 4: As as marcellonas there. You, go yeah that was a 429 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: strong he was a. Strong, point god oh, my god he. 430 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 4: Was strong you know coming Out. Of russia lefty goals to, 431 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 4: the basket high to. THE left i mean you know 432 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 4: he was going left and you still couldn't start him from. 433 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: Going, LEFT yeah i mean those guys did sort of 434 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: set the table for the guys like man who you 435 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: know when they came OVER and i mean, you look 436 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: now some of the, BEST players i mean you Left, they, YANNIS. 437 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: Yeah vp You know jannis is a. Freaking. 438 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 4: Nature yeah a guy at six eleven almost seven foot 439 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 4: do the things that, HE does i don't. 440 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: Forget it it's pretty crazy. To, see okay now this 441 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: is a, different one. This CARD because i knew you 442 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: Were An. ALL star i knew you Were AN all. 443 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: NBA player i didn't know that you were a part 444 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: OF GQ's Nba All star. 445 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 2: Style. 446 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 4: Team yeah some of THEM suits i wouldn't wear to. 447 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 4: Day though, but yeah it was Me and Kevin. Willis 448 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 4: man we was on the COVER probably i, don't know 449 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 4: three or four or, five years, you KNOW. With gq 450 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 4: And Also michael jordan was. On there Reggie Theas elijah 451 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 4: wan was also. On there My brother gerald was on, 452 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 4: there before, so yeah that was a cool thing. 453 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 3: Back. 454 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 2: Then yeah well the style certainly has changed. As. WELL 455 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: now i mean you, see something would you ever wear 456 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: some of The Stuff? Russell westbrook wez that'd be, no, no. 457 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: No no fashion is. A cycle, they say that's his. 458 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 4: Own thing, you, know hey it works. For, him hey. 459 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: All right this next guy is a guy who played 460 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: For the Hawks, and PISTONS and i think he was 461 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: a color commentator For the PISTONS and i think Also 462 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: The Oklahoma city thunder there for. 463 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: A while, in fact there's also a great footage. 464 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: Of you you dunked on not, only him but two 465 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: of his teammates Down in miami. 466 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: One day it was only a one. Hand slam he's 467 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: a big. 468 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 5: Long. 469 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: That's It. 470 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: Grand, long, yeah, yeah, Yeah Yeah. Grant long. He was. 471 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: He was he was a prototypical. 472 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 4: Power forward, you know it did, dirty, work rebound could 473 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 4: score a little uh, you know he was a he 474 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 4: was a bangor tape, of guy can play. 475 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 3: Both, forwards actually do you. 476 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: Remember that dunk on the heat where you kind of 477 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: get it through the middle of the paint and then just, oh, yeah. 478 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: YEAH yeah i caught the whole front line. That was. 479 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: That's GREAT because, i remember, you know you pick it 480 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: up and you're, just, Saying well i'm going to, the 481 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: room and, they're like we're going to try to, stop 482 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: you and you won. 483 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: THAT battle i know that much. 484 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 3: Went loose, so yeah. 485 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: This guy might have actually also been defending. 486 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: That day another player For The, miami heat he's he 487 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: was a good player in his early days there in. 488 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: THE nineties i think HE won i think He Won 489 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: Most improved player. 490 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: One year he's, the only as FAR as, i know 491 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: The only lebanese basketball player we've ever had IN the 492 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: nba kind of. 493 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: Undersized center, oh oh HE'S a dj. 494 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: These days, OH man i know it is this can't say, 495 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 3: HIS name i? Know it. Oh, man yeah he Played 496 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: With glenn race. And all, YOU know i know you're. 497 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 4: Talking about just can't think Yes. Cyclely yeah yeah he was. 498 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: Solid man, oh yeah he was. SOLID player i mean 499 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 4: he could play both center. 500 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: And, forward yeah kind of undersized as. A center i would, have. 501 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 3: Thought you know what, he was but you, know what 502 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: he was, tough. Guy man he though he played hard 503 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: and he had he. 504 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 4: Had some Nice, gill yeah didn't didn't hang around, very 505 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 4: long but had a nice Career. 506 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: In miami, all, right nice we're rolling, along here got 507 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: a couple more. 508 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: To go this, next guy you remember him because he 509 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: was a part of a famous trio in the, early 510 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: nineties but he really made his name as an all Star. 511 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: In sacramento he's In the Hall of fame and picked 512 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: up a championship at the end of his career With. 513 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 2: The Lakers. 514 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 3: Gris, mullen No Not. 515 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: Chris mullen Teammate Of. Chris mullen part of THE. Run 516 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: Tmc Not chris, Mullen. 517 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 4: Though, okay Yeah Because tim hardaway and You had who 518 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 4: is the, other guy? 519 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: The Rock? 520 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: The, ROCK yeah, I know i. Know it, oh man, Oh, 521 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: man wow there. 522 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: He Is, mitch, Richmond rookie rookie Of the year in. 523 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 2: Eighty nine he Was. The. 524 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 4: ROCK yeah i don't Nor if i've ever seen many 525 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 4: shooting guards were Strong As. 526 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 3: Mitch, richmond yeah he was. Strong man he was, a strong. 527 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 4: Strong individual could really shoot, the ball, handle, it rebound, 528 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 4: could defend he could do. 529 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 3: It all he was. 530 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 2: A guy. I know there's a video. 531 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: OUT there i think it's from The Old Inside stuff 532 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: Days where jordan Says That mitch richmond was one of 533 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: the toughest defenders he ever went. 534 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: Against because he had that he sort of had a 535 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 2: low center. 536 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: Of gravity there good sort of bass that He couldn't 537 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: jordan couldn't sort of move him out of. 538 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 3: The, way, no man he, was man he. WAS strong 539 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: i mean he would guard some. 540 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 4: Small, Forwards yeah Mitch, MITCH man i mean he was 541 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 4: a hell of. A. 542 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: DEFENDER yeah i guess when you're On A don nelson, 543 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 1: coach team you could be. Guarding anyone it doesn't matter what. 544 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: Size you you could be the point guy defending. 545 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: His. 546 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: Center Yeah and nelly he started that three guard front 547 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 4: and it would drive. Teams crazy but it wasn't like 548 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 4: those guys were, that, little Though Because mitch richmond was a, 549 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: physical individual and then He Had tim hardaway as another 550 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: physical guy at the point, guard posis so size didn't 551 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 4: really matter with. 552 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: Those guys it's. 553 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: CRAZY when i see Guys Like isaiah Thomas Or, tim 554 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: Hardaway who i'm, You know i'm only five to. Eleven 555 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: myself when you're id away with, those guys, you think 556 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: how did these guys go out there and go out 557 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: and get thirty IN? 558 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: THE nba i? 559 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: Mean assisting they were, So, skilled yes unbelievably skilled guys 560 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 4: that knew how to score points just by using your 561 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: body weight against you or getting you. 562 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 3: Back pedaling when you forget a guy, back pedaling it's 563 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 3: hard to defend. 564 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 4: The guy and guys would come at you and get 565 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: you back pedaling where now you are at. 566 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: Their, mercy yeah and tough as. ANYTHING too i mean 567 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: they would go into the. 568 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: Paper pails yeah. 569 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: That's. Crazy okay this, next guy this guy was A Multiple. 570 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: All star he Was The San antonio, spurs guard he 571 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: Was the, raptors guard He Was. Milwaukee BUCKS and i 572 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: think this guy picked up like a few quadruple doubles 573 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: throughout his career from the. 574 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: Guard position from he got a lot of steals out 575 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: of the eighty. Four draft he was Out. 576 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 1: Of arkansas, TOUGH guy i think He, was defensively he 577 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: was known as a very very good player AND like, 578 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: i say, picked up he certainly picked up one triple 579 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: one quadruple, DOUBLE anyway i think in, his CAREER if i, 580 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: Remember Correctly. 581 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 2: All star With. 582 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: The spurs he Started An All star game in fact 583 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: With the spurs in. 584 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: Eighty seven. 585 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, You know spurs have had 586 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 4: Some Players Alvin Robertson. Alvin, robinson, wow, Yeah. Yeah yeah 587 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 4: he was a rebounding, point guard. That's sure the rebound, 588 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: point guard great. Assist guy another guy who toughest now 589 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 4: strong as he was when the hand check. Was In 590 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 4: alvin robinson was as good as any guy IN the 591 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 4: nba at hand at the. Hand, CHECK yeah, i mean 592 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: because you couldn't get. BY him i mean he was, 593 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 4: so strong his hands were. So strong he just made 594 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 4: you work. 595 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: For, it yeah he's he scored the first ever Basket 596 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: In toronto. 597 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: RAPTORS history i. BELIEVE too i think that's that's you, 598 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: Know what, You're right. 599 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: You're right one of those trivia things, with him, All 600 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: right this, NEXT guy i think you were teammates with 601 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: this guy in nineteen ninety four At The. World championships 602 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: he exploded onto the scene as he came out of 603 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: high school in the. Late eighties high flying. Dunker man he's. Six' 604 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: ten he could run the floor and he could dunk on. 605 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: Dudes as well he's he's got a few big highlight 606 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: reel dunk so he never won. A dunk contest he 607 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: was only in maybe One or two sean camp, there, you, 608 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: go yeah. 609 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: Yes or one of the most underrated power forwards to 610 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 4: play This Game. Is sean camp, he was, athletic freak 611 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: yeah and was explosive yea at. THAT powerful position i 612 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: mean he couldn't guard him one. On one man he, 613 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: was too, strong. VERY agile athletic i mean he jumped out. 614 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: Of the. 615 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 3: Gym unbelievable player what's it. 616 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: Like when, you, you know, you you know you obviously play, 617 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: against these guys but then when you are teammates on, 618 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: these different teams world championships and, things like that what 619 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: are those. 620 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: Practice sessions like when you were seeing guys who were. 621 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 4: Just, like intense yeah our practice, Because You know don nelson, 622 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 4: was our coach and our practices was like. 623 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: Going to, war all right we've got the. 624 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: Last card here this is another guy who was a 625 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: high flyer in. The late eighties he he picked up 626 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: a championship late in his Career With. The houston rockets but. 627 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: There's another guy. 628 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: He was definitely in a couple. 629 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: OF dunk contests i don't think, he won any but 630 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: he's got some pretty good. 631 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: Highlight, real Time, yeah they. Clyde. They, glide yeah yeah that's. 632 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 3: My best friend? Is that right he's. 633 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 4: My best friend we, are very close almost like he's 634 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 4: almost like a. Brother, to me really, and uh again 635 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 4: when you're talking, ABOUT shooting guy i mean he's noting 636 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 4: the ready because he's the fifty greatest player? 637 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 3: Of all time what are? THE fifty greatest i don't 638 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 3: think people. 639 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 4: TODAY really understood i Understand How good clyde drexel was 640 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 4: and how easy it was. 641 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 3: For him to. 642 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 4: Get off floor he didn't Get the Name clyde the. 643 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 4: Glade for nothing the guy was like a. Ballerina of sneakers. 644 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Did, You guys go did you guys Go into The 645 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: hall of fame around? 646 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 3: The, same time no he went in a couple of. 647 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: Years before, me. 648 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: RIGHT right. 649 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: YEAH i guess i guess he retired Soon after the rockets. 650 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: Won those, Championship, right well nick just, Before you go 651 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: i've got one more question, here for you one more 652 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: card to SHOW you BECAUSE i heard i saw that 653 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: you dunked for the first time in a game. 654 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: In eighth grade? Is? 655 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,239 Speaker 3: That? 656 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: Right, yes, yeah well Okay so IN australia when i 657 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: was in, THE eighth grade. I couldn't dunk i could 658 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: barely even. Touch the backboard but everyone wanted To be 659 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: like nick because that's how. Influential YOU were. So I 660 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: couldn't while, i couldn't dunk THE best thing i could 661 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: do was grow a Flat, top like. 662 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: Nick. 663 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: That's, horrible ye hey i'll. Tell you what that's pretty 664 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: good because my hair was. Basically, Like that yeah. 665 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: I'll TELL you when i walked into a Little barbershop 666 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: in australia in the LATE eighties AND i said i 667 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: want To Look, like dominique wilkins they WERE like, Who, 668 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: i said. 669 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: Hey they did. A. 670 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: Good, JOB man yeah. I wrote THAT i mean i 671 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: rocked that for. 672 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: My. 673 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: School, photo wow. Man that's. Funny that's. Funny that's, COOL 674 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 3: so yeah I just. 675 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: THOUGHT i thought i thought i'd let you. Know THAT that, 676 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: LIKE i. SAID i couldn't i couldn't. Dunk like YOU 677 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: the closest i could get was. The SAME haircut and 678 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: i think, you know what all things. Considered, not bad yeah. 679 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 4: That's good man there's been a pleasure of hanging, out, 680 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: with you man and look forward. 681 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: To doing again thanks very much, For, YOUR time nick i. 682 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: Really appreciate it and good Luck to the hawks whenever 683 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: whenever they're, playing basketball again hopefully. Hopefully it's, soon but 684 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: yeah crazy time we're, IN and again i really. Appreciate 685 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: your time. 686 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: Thank you man we, really. 687 00:29:52,160 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: Appreciate it man thanks 688 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 5: The summer recognized simpers