1 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back Late Kick Extra Thursday morning, July, 2 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: first year of Our Lord, twenty twenty one. They said 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: we couldn't make it to July, you and I, and 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: yet here we are. Who are they? By the way, 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: you may ask who are they? Who are the people 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: who said that? I don't know, It's not important. I 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: see people do this all the time. They said I 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: couldn't do this. They said I couldn't do that. Well 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: no they didn't. Actually no one said that, sir or ma'am. 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: But you know what, since we're in the business now 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: of making up haters, we'll just make them up for 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: our show as well. Hashtag Late Kick haters out there. 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: We made it to July, could we make it to August? 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Opening bids start at plus two point fifty and we'll 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: see which way the action goes. We got a loaded 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: mail bag this morning. I know a lot of you 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: are going to be on the road this weekend. I 18 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: will be too. I'm headed back down to Georgia tonight, 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: actually after we do Late Cack Live. So it's busy day. 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: We got nil breaking. The anile era is upon us. 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: We got the transfer portal closing, so hopefully like the 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: Titanic in the boiler room. Hopefully you got through it 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: before the watertight doors shut, or else you may be 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: not eligible. This fall probably one of the most striking 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: metaphors I've used in months, the transfer portal and the Titanic. 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: So we've got a loaded mail bag. I thank you 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: so much for contributing. I got so much overflow from 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: the other day that I really got to talk faster. 29 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: As you can already see, I've gotten into the habit 30 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: of in the first minute to minute and a half 31 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: of this morning's podcast, but I just got a lot 32 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: to cram in, and I don't want to leave any 33 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: on the table because once we come back after July fourth, 34 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: who knows half of it may be irrelevant. So if 35 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: you want to submit questions for next week, Josh paid 36 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: seven zero six at gmail dot com about to head 37 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: over some milestones on Twitter and Instagram, make sure you're 38 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: following there. Don't say I didn't warn you when you 39 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: start getting left out on what's coming on those platforms. 40 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: Don't say I didn't warn you. At Late Kickjosh, I'll 41 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: still let you in if you're late though. At Late Kickjosh, 42 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: and that is how you submit questions. Many of you have, 43 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: so I'm going to start with one that I had 44 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: a screenshot on the eye. Josh, I just saw it 45 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: a little while ago. This is from David. David leads 46 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: us off with this. I have often said that I, 47 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: as a Georgia fan, will only ever pull for another 48 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: SEC team to win off of the sole fact that 49 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: they're an SEC team if it's the Outback Bowl, so 50 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: I can get a free blooming Onion and out Back 51 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: because of their win. Would you defend this statement? Why 52 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: do you think SEC fans think they have to root 53 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: for other SEC teams? Interesting question here. I've heard very, 54 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: very wide ranges of opinions on this. No one's neutral 55 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: on it. Everyone says it's either stupid to chant SEC 56 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: or they can't hear you because they're busy chanting SEC. 57 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: What it really comes down to is you need to 58 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: have grown up in the South to understand it. Now, 59 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean if you grew up in the South 60 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: you automatically feel this way. But if someone is listening 61 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: in Gary, Indiana, you don't really get what it's like 62 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: to live in muscle Shows Alabama, or must Sholls as 63 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: they call it in Alabama. And it's different. Football is 64 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: what we have always done best in the South. Now 65 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: that's an old talking point. Everyone knows that you have eyeballs, 66 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: so you can see that the SEC is really good 67 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: at football. But there is one geographical region in our 68 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: country that has been pretty underrepresented. We've always felt that 69 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: it was underrepresented. We were underrepresented in media and academia. 70 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: So because media and academia largely shaped the narrative of 71 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: what we think about things in any society. And so 72 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: in the South, you were always taught growing up, especially 73 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: by the older generation, you were taught they look down 74 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: on you. They think you're an idiot, they think you're 75 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: a hic, they think you can't walk in chew gum. 76 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: At the same time, but we got football, and so 77 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: they don't laugh when they come on the football field, 78 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: whether usor now. We get into a debate setting or 79 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: we go to a spelling bee, then they think they 80 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: got the edge on you, but not on a football field. 81 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: And it largely has wrung truth throughout my generation because 82 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: the SEC, that's the area I grew up in, It's 83 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: always been good. I've always been good because as we know, 84 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: it just means more. I'm going to sidetrack. I'm going 85 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: to get back to the it just means more marketing slogan. 86 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: In a second. I think it's brilliant. I think it's 87 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: on the level of Central Florida hanging a championship banner 88 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, that level of brilliance. But anyway, here's 89 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: what it comes down to right now, what's happening in 90 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: the South is all of you are moving here. That's 91 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: what's happening. So for a long time, all the talking 92 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: point when you go and meet each other at Cracker 93 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: Barrel after church on Sunday, you're hanging out on the 94 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: lake on Saturday afternoon in the summer. There running joke 95 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: in the South has always been when you hear a 96 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: Northerner making fun of the South, just laugh along with 97 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: them because the joke's on them. Because we live in 98 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: the South, like we understand, vast majorities of the stereotypes 99 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: are dispelled as soon as you walk out your door 100 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: in the morning. So a lot of it's never been true. 101 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: But also it's great to live in the South. The 102 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: weather's great, the tax structure is great, the people are great, 103 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: the topography is great. I had to get my Graffi's 104 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: in order. The topography is great's beautiful area of the country, 105 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: and so now a lot of you are coming down here. 106 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: I live in Nashville, I was in Columbus, so I've 107 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: been kind of in the Atlanta area of the Nashville area. 108 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: And everybody who comes down here ends up saying the 109 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: same thing. I had a kid the other day who 110 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: is new to this area who told me the South 111 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: has been nothing like I heard it would be. And 112 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: I hesitated ask and I said, really, what did you 113 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: hear it would be? And essentially, I mean he thought 114 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: it was going to be eighteen sixty five down here, 115 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: and so it's not. And there you go, All's well, 116 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: that ends well. But what happens right now is you 117 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: get that sec chant because a lot of people are 118 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: puffing their chest out and they're saying, you know, this 119 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: is the first time we've been able to say see, 120 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: we told you so to a lot of you, because 121 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: instead of having to yell it from five states away, 122 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: we're yelling it across the street. Because a lot of 123 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: you are down here, but you're transplants. You're just transplants. 124 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: Some would use harsher terminology, but anyway, I've gone on 125 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: a little tangent there, but it really circles back to 126 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: having pride in something as a collective region instead of 127 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: letting it cut off at state boundaries. It's one of 128 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: those family dynamics. Families fight amongst themselves, but yet when 129 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: someone outside tries to attack a family member, then you 130 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: all band together. That's kind of the way that Southern 131 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: football culture has always been. Now, as I go back 132 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: to what I said, I was going to talk about 133 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: this whole marketing slogan that the SEC league office and 134 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: their market has gone with. It just means more. With 135 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: the girls standing on the beach, just means more. That's 136 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: so brilliant because what they knew is everyone outside the 137 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: South was going to make fun of that. Some folks 138 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: in the South were going to make fun of it, 139 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: and they didn't care. It's just like when Central Florida 140 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: won a national championship, according to them, in twenty seventeen. 141 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: So many of you got been out of shape by that, 142 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: and there you go, you care, you got triggered. It worked. 143 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: That's marketing people, and so in the Southeastern Conference they said, 144 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: we fully believed this. It just does mean more, just 145 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: like it's Central Florida. They really do believe that they 146 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: earned the right to hang that national championship banner. But 147 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: there is also a sly grin. It's like the sly 148 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: grin emoji. When they hang that banner up or when 149 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: they run that advertising campaign, it just means more twenty 150 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: seventeen UCF National Champion. And then they just look at 151 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: you and wait for your reaction, and a lot of 152 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: you guys deliver every time. You shouldn't tisk, but you do, 153 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: so I expect that I think they are safe to 154 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: say they will continue running that ad campaign. Mississippi State 155 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: has just won a national title in the time that 156 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: I've been recording this, so things are going well in 157 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: the sec Next up, scroll down, Let's go to this. 158 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: Andrew asked a great question that I probably shouldn't answer, 159 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: but I will. Andrew said, what has been your biggest 160 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: diva moment since getting to cover sports? I pride myself 161 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: on avoiding these. Andrew really do pride myself. You know 162 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: my background. You guys who have listened to the show, 163 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: you know my background. I'm a lot more familiar with 164 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: the site of dirt under the fingernails than well manicured 165 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: fingernails on me at least. Now you guys live how 166 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: you want to live. But I say all that to 167 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: say I don't have a whole lot of diva in me. 168 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: But there was one time. It was two years ago, 169 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: so I've been in the industry a little while by 170 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: that point, and it was a year where played, Oh 171 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: that was LSU and Clemson. So LSU Clemson are playing 172 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: in the title game. So I'm already I'm going to 173 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: be booked to go to that game. I'm going to 174 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: cover the national championship. But before or that, I said, 175 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, Alabama and Michigan are playing and they don't 176 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: play very often, and they're playing in the Verbo Citrus Bowl, 177 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, I'm gonna go down there. 178 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: And I took a buddy of mine who's a lifelong 179 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: Michigan fan also a big fan of the podcast, so 180 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: he'll hear this at some point, and I said, you 181 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: know what, I can get us credentials. And I don't 182 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: really care if anyone finds out because I'm about to 183 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: leave this place anyway. So let's go. And so off 184 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: we go to Orlando, and I am expecting now that 185 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: i've been going to Bowl games a few years for 186 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: just an immaculate swag package. That's the stuff they give 187 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: you for free if you're a member of the media, 188 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: which full disclosure, they over deliver on. I mean, I 189 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: got a sweet backpack from the twenty eighteen title game 190 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: out in Santa Clara that I still use every day, 191 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: every single day of my life. Since that title game, 192 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: I have used this backpack. It's my gym backpack. So 193 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: thank you guys for that. Anyway, we get down there, 194 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: we go to the media hotel, great taco bar, I mean, 195 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: an exquisite taco bar night before at the media sueek. 196 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: But when we got to the stadium, the only media 197 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: gift was a commemorative pen and just I had a moment. Andrew, 198 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm sad to say, and I regret it now, but 199 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: I had a moment where for the first time I 200 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: looked at free stuff that I don't deserve to begin with, 201 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: and I said, that's it. And then I felt like 202 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: going into a bathroom and slapping myself in the face. 203 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: And so I got it together pretty quick, enjoyed myself 204 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: great time. It was. It was wonderful to get a 205 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: sunburn on New Year's Day. And that's the catch. If 206 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: I were running pr for the Citrus Bowl and JP 207 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: comes up and complains about the lack of a better 208 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: media gift, I'd say, look around, you fool. You are 209 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: in seventy five degree weather on New Year's Day. There 210 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: are palm trees within eyeshot of where you're standing right now. 211 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, you're getting to cover a 212 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: game for free that people are paying to watch. Your airfare, 213 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: your travel. Any way you got here, it got paid for, 214 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: so shut up and enjoy it. Here. Have an orange juice, 215 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: just don't drink it on the field. They did not 216 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: let you drink liquids on the field, even though they 217 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: did not have a problem with the gatorade being poured 218 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: on the field after the game. But Andrew, yes, I 219 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: had that moment, But I have largely rehabbed myself from that. 220 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: I have detoxed from that. So no more Diva moments 221 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: for me anytime soon. Michael is next up. What are 222 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the momentum? Shane Beemer and the game 223 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: Cocks have picked up this week. For Michael, I think 224 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: it's a really good sign. I think it's a good 225 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: sign because even though they're not necessarily beating the mega 226 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: powers for these players. I listened to our buddy Ja C. 227 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: Sherbert talk about this the other day. You cannot do 228 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: this apples to apples comparison. You cannot compare a head 229 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: coach at a struggling program in year one versus a 230 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: coach that is steamrolling his way ahead in year seven 231 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: or eight. So, in other words, if you were to 232 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: do the Shane Beemer and Dabbos Swiny comparison, it's stupid 233 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: to do that. So I'm not doing that. What I'm 234 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: doing is measuring him based on what average expectation would 235 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: be for someone in his position, and Shane Beemer is 236 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: exceeding expectation right now. They're doing a very good job 237 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: of selling the proper vision. They're doing a good job 238 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: of getting kids to buy. The reason you always speak 239 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: this time of year with some hesitancy in your voice 240 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: is because you know there's not pen on paper anywhere, 241 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: so you don't know. You expect all these guys to stick, 242 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: but we've seen how recruiting plays out, so we don't 243 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: know how it's going to turn out. If it turns 244 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: out anywhere close to the way it's felt, so far. 245 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: How do you not consider this a massive win for 246 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: South Carolina? And how does that coaching staff not go 247 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: home at night, look in the mirror and say, good, 248 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: we took a much bigger first step than we even thought. 249 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: We almost pulled a groin. We took such a first 250 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: big step in this process. That's what it's about. It's 251 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: about process. It's not about the end of the line 252 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: after this cycle. It's about what does this cycle do 253 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: for the next cycle. What does the kid in the 254 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three or twenty twenty four class think looking 255 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: at all these kids ahead of him buying into South 256 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: Carolina even though there is no result to show for 257 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: it yet, I think it's a really good thing, Michael, 258 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: and I'm pulling for him because you know, if you 259 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: guys listen to the pod, I'm a huge fan and 260 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: really pull for programs who hire culture fits. It's the 261 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: same reason I'm pulling really hard for Sam Pittman at 262 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: Arkansas really good culture fits, because I think that's unique 263 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: to college football. That's not the way it is in 264 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. The coach for the Bears and the coach 265 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins, and the coach for the Chargers it's 266 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: just all the same. They're different markets, but it's all 267 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: the same philosophy. It's different here, totally different. Coaching at 268 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: UCLA and coaching at South Carolina are two totally different worlds. 269 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: And that's good. That's not a bad thing. That's fine. 270 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: That's college sports doesn't have to just be this even landscape. 271 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: There can be some hilly terrain, you know. There can 272 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: be a valley over here, there can be a peak 273 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: over there, there can be this really really cool waterfall 274 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: over here, and then up there. Look, it looks like 275 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: the great fruited plane as far as the eye can see. 276 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: It's supposed to feel different. That's the uniqueness of college sports. 277 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: That's why it's so fun to go on road trips. 278 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: You get to see different people, different landscape, different culture, 279 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: different stadium, different game day experience. All that ties in here. 280 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: And so Carolina and Shane Biemer, they're packaging what South 281 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: Carolina football should be. And if you're getting kids to 282 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: buy into it that early before they've even coached a game, 283 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: more power to him. Nick is next up. I think 284 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: we need to take just a second here and we 285 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: need to collect our thoughts. Because Nick asked one of 286 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: the more pressing questions of our time, and a lot 287 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: of you have already been in this situation. Some of you, 288 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: I found out had horror stories, and some of you 289 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: are really speculative, and you're wondering should I pursue this? 290 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: So Nick asked the question. I'm gonna go ahead and 291 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: put it out there, and then we're gonna do the 292 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: ad break because you're gonna need the ad break. Now. 293 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: Of course we want you to patronize our sponsors, but 294 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna need the ad break to think about your 295 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: own answer. So listen to this question and we'll answer 296 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: it on the other side. According to Nick, he wants 297 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: to know when you're getting to know someone, is it 298 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: a good idea or a bad idea to ask her 299 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: out on a date to a college football game. Have 300 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: you ever done this? And if so, how did it 301 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: turn out? And we will answer right after this and 302 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: with that we're back. As you remember when we last spoke, 303 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: well about a minute, minute and a half ago, Nick 304 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: wove us a very fascinating web. Are we taking girls 305 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: to college football games for first or second dates? Are 306 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: we going to do it? I know some of you do. 307 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: Some of you have had great results with this. But 308 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: I put this on Twitter the other day, and I 309 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: think it's a skill to get fifty to fifty split 310 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: on a question. I could ask what's the better color? 311 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: Red or blue, purple or green? I could not get 312 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty split. Heads are tails. I could not 313 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: get fifty to fifty split. But I asked you guys 314 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: the other night this, I just copied and pasted it. 315 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: In fact, let me pull my Twitter account up. So 316 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: I copied and pasted this the other night again to 317 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: reiterate on the question, do we really want to explore 318 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: taking girls to college football games as first or second 319 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: dates early on? We're not talking about taking your long 320 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: term girlfriend, your fiance, your wife. We're talking about taking 321 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: a very very new relationship into a college football setting. 322 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: Some of you said yes, some of you said no. 323 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: In fact, how split was it as of the time 324 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: of this recording, it is fifty one forty nine. Fifty 325 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: one percent say it's a good idea, forty nine percent 326 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: say it's a bad idea. Jacob Carnes, one of our buddies, 327 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: hopped in the comments and gave the following quote, don't 328 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: involve a girl that you have emotions for with a 329 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: sport that you have emotions for, at least not early on. 330 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: I thought that was profound. A lot of you did too. 331 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: Here's my take on this, Nick, I think there is 332 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: some upside. I think there's infinitely more downside. I could 333 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: think of four or five things that could go right. 334 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: I could think of forty or fifty things that could 335 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: go wrong. My personal take on this is I would 336 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: not risk it early on. But again, it's personality by personality. 337 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: Some of you are maniacs at games, some of you 338 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: are your normal self at games. You can define what 339 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: normal is for you, but think about all the other 340 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: variables that come into the equation. When you enter a 341 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: college football stadium and go into that environment, think about 342 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: all the things out of your control that could happen 343 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: that could impact you and your girlfriend. If you've ever 344 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: been in a stadium, you know exactly what I'm talking 345 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: about here. And then also think about what kind of 346 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: emotion that maybe you've had bottled up that you haven't 347 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: seen or she hasn't seen, that all of a sudden 348 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: is on display. And it's hard when you find something 349 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: new out about someone and you're in a crowd of 350 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: ninety thousand people, it can just create this really awkward dynamic. 351 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: Now here's another thing that's happened to me in the past. 352 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to go too far into detail 353 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: with this because you know, a lot of concerned parties 354 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: may be listening to this, But I will say I've 355 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: had a somewhat similar situation. Only I cover games, so 356 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't at games. But sometimes when you want to 357 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: focus on something and maybe someone else doesn't want that 358 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: focus on a game nearly as much as themselves, it 359 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: can also create a little bit of a dilemma. So 360 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: let's just say you are a sophomore at Michigan and 361 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: here comes Ohio State into town, and you know what, 362 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: I think this is a great time to take this 363 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: girl I've been dating for three or four weeks. I 364 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: really like her. I really think this could be it. 365 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: So I'm going to take her to the game Michigan 366 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: Ohio State. And this is in twenty forty six. Michigan 367 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: has a shot to beat Ohio State by this point, 368 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: and my goodness, it's happening. We lead twenty to ten 369 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: at the half, it's thirty three to twenty to begin 370 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. We just turned them over on downs. 371 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: It's thirty eight to twenty seven, we're going to beat 372 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: Ohio State and you are wrapped up in it, and 373 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: she's mad because you're not paying her enough attention, and 374 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: it creates a very uncomfortable dynamic. And here's the thing. 375 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: College football is about moments, and if someone ruins a moment, 376 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: it's forever linked to that moment. Your bad experience is 377 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 1: forever linked to that moment. Like if you're making a 378 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: fool out of yourself and you get arrested at a 379 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: game for being public intoxicated and you get taken to 380 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: the poke and you don't even get to see the 381 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: ending of that game. Everyone else thirty years from now 382 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: is going to be talking about the day Michigan beat 383 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: Ohio State and you're gonna be talking about a cellmate 384 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: named Pedro and you didn't even get to see the 385 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: end of the game. Well, it's the same way memory framework. 386 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: It's very fascinating you have studied it. You associate a 387 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: certain thing, a certain point of your life, with a 388 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: certain occurrence in life. And what if that memory framework 389 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: works in such a way where you have waited your 390 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: whole life to celebrate Michigan beating Ohio State, and it's 391 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 1: in the process of happening, and you're miserable because there 392 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: is a voice six inches from your ear chewing you 393 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: out and berating you because you've paid more attention to 394 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: these kids you don't even know over me this whole afternoon. 395 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it would happen that way. I'm just 396 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: saying it could happen, and has happened before. Now, on 397 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: the plus side, you could find out that this girl 398 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: is worth her weight in gold and platinum combined because 399 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: she's into it every bit the same as you are, 400 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: and she can name the starting left guard and the backup. 401 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: And at that point you've entered unicorn territory, and so 402 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: you just want to do everything you can to never 403 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: let her out of your sight again. So, yes, things 404 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: can go right, but things can go so horribly tragically. 405 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: Fireball tumbling out of control down a steep ravine bad 406 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: that I personally would weigh the risk over the reward 407 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't do it. But if you do, I'm 408 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,239 Speaker 1: excited to hear the feedback. You're gonna have a lot 409 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: of opportunities. Hopefully this fall, Nick and anyone else asking 410 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: David's Up Next got a very good question here. Here's 411 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: a question for the podcast that genuinely baffles me. There's 412 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: probably a perfectly good answer, so feel free to make 413 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: me look silly if necessary. But with all the technology 414 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: we have in sports these days, why in the world 415 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: are we still eyeballing We're at a spot of football. 416 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: At times the decision appears totally arbitrary, which is mind 417 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: blowing considering the importance of the spot and what it 418 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: can do for a game. I have no answer. I 419 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: have no answer. I cannot believe we put a man 420 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: on the moon in nineteen sixty nine and we are 421 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: still using eyeballs to spot a football. We have not 422 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: put technology in the form of chips, several of them 423 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: in footballs, and we have not run corresponding digital strips 424 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: along football fields, or put laser technology in the sticks 425 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: themselves on the sideline to shoot across the field and 426 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: create imaginary lines to spot a football accurately. I can't 427 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: believe that. It seems like if we were back in 428 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Caveman times and we were going to chart out the 429 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: course of the future, what feels like it should have 430 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: come first, an absolute way to measure the spot of 431 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: a football, or putting a man on the moon, like 432 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that we think about it this way. 433 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes I can be in a football stadium and I 434 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: can look up above me and see a commercial airliner 435 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: flying innocently over the stadium, forty thousand feet in the air, 436 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking to myself, that big metal tube is 437 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: floating with two hundred and fifty people on it, forty 438 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: thousand feet above my head, several miles above the earth. 439 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: We have long since figured out how to do that. 440 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: And we're standing here with a stoppage in play as 441 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: two guys run out onto the field with two sticks 442 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: connected by a chain, and then a third guy has 443 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: his hand around the chain, marking where the spot of 444 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: the ball allegedly was. It fascinates me. We get down 445 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: to the goal line so many times you're counting on 446 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: instant replay, and so you'll call a guy short and 447 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: you'll go, oh, let's go to the replay. Let's se 448 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: if he made it. Man, Well, you're not gonna be 449 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: able to tell. And I'm going to tell you why, 450 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: because there are thirty seven bodies piled on top of 451 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: each other and you can't tell. I'm not telling you. 452 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: Laser technology or chip technology could absolutely, without question tell 453 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: you if he crossed the goal line before he was down, 454 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: but it could absolutely tell you if he crossed the 455 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: goal line, and I cannot believe that we have not 456 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: done that. I also watched Major League Baseball, and I'm 457 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: a traditionalist, to be frank with you, and so I 458 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: love the human element in baseball. But now that you've 459 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: taken all of it out and you've totally rearranged the sport, 460 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: I mean, double headers are now seven inning games. When 461 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: the what are we talking about? But since you've done 462 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: all that, why are we still using humans as umpires. 463 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: You've long since had the capability to call balls and 464 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: strikes robotically, and in football, I don't think it hurts 465 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: the game one bit to add that technology in there. So, David, 466 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't have an answer for you. The question is 467 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: not silly. It's silly that you have to ask the question. 468 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: I also hate that word silly. I hate it. It's 469 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: one that just never sounds right to me. I don't 470 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: use it, don't use the vernacular except when David asked 471 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: a question. There, So let's move on here. I don't 472 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: have an answer for you, David, and I doubt anyone 473 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: else in the listening audience does. It's one of those 474 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 1: it's one of those universally agreed upon points that for 475 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: some reason doesn't get corrected. I've never had anyone say, nah, 476 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: that's a bad idea there. Now, we want to keep 477 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: the human element involved here. We want to be three 478 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: quarters of a yard off because some referees eyeballs lied 479 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: to him. I don't ever hear people say that. But 480 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: yet still here we are in twenty twenty one. Let 481 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: me stress again, we are in two thousand and twenty one. 482 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: Grant had a question about the ten best college football 483 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: programs in the last decade, and he listed his ten. 484 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: He wanted to know what I thought about it, so 485 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: quickly he went Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, Oklahoma, LSU, Georgia, 486 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: Boise State, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, and Florida. I would not 487 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: have Boise State in my top ten. But that is 488 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: only because it's relative to accomplishment, which is also relative 489 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: to challenge. So this is not a knock on Boise. 490 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: If you were just doing straight up blind resume wins, losses, 491 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: win percentage, YadA, YadA, YadA. Yes, Boise is in the 492 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: top ten. I'm talking about playing a higher level of football. 493 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: So boys wouldn't be in my top ten. But it's 494 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: not because anything personal against them. I've explained this before. 495 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: I would have Wisconsin a little bit higher than nine, 496 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: I believe, Grant. In the question you sent me, you 497 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: also said you were arguing for Wisconsin to be in 498 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: the top ten. I don't see how they're not in 499 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: the top ten. I would anyone not have Wisconsin in 500 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: their top ten. That's been one of the most steady 501 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: as you go programs that doesn't get a lot of 502 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: the national spotlight because there has not been a playoff 503 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: run and there hasn't been a national title, so that's 504 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: what people remember. That's why so many people would put 505 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: LSU ahead of Georgia. Georgia's had more consistency. LSU's won 506 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: the title, and I get that. I have not a 507 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: huge problem with that. But with Wisconsin, yeah, absolutely, I 508 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: would put him in there. Otherwise I think the list 509 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: is okay. Here I put Clemson over Ohio. I would 510 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: do that, but other than that list looks good to me. Grant. 511 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: Next up is Sam and he thought about this when 512 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: you can tell because this thing several lines long. I'm 513 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: not gonna read the whole thing, but he asked, essentially, 514 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: why do you wear a white T shirt every show? 515 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: Would you consider wearing anything else? Do you own more 516 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: than one shirt? Is there an attachment to the white 517 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: T shirt? And is that the reason Late Kick merch 518 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: is still on the back burner? Let me answer this 519 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: in reverse order. Late Kick Merchandise haven't mentioned anything about 520 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: that now. In the interest of full disclosure, which I 521 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: always give to you guys, I cannot do that right now. 522 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: It's not because of me. It is because of things 523 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: not related to me, but more on the legal front. 524 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: And that's about all I can say about it. But 525 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: that's what the hold up has been. So I'm going 526 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: to leave that there. If I could snap my fingers 527 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: and do it, we would put in action today. As 528 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: for the white T shirt, there is a very good 529 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: reason why I wear it. I have worn it for 530 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: every episode of Late Kick that we have done and 531 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: will continue to do. So it's not a reason that 532 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: I publicize. So it's theater of the imagination. If we 533 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: were doing radio, and you might as well consider this radio. 534 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: Back in the radio days, I always got taught about 535 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: theater of the mind, theater of the imagination, And to me, 536 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: what it always was fun to do is if I 537 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: were to ever listen to a radio show, I would 538 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: wonder what the faces of the people look like. If 539 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: you've ever found yourself doing that. If you listen to 540 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: a podcast but you've never seen the people, you always 541 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: your mind starts to picture them because you are so 542 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: used to living in a world where there is a 543 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: visual element to anything you're experiencing, and in the podcast, 544 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: in radio world, that's one of the few areas where 545 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: you do not have a visual element. Well, what your 546 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: mind does out of habit is it starts to paint 547 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: the visual element for you. So you start to envision 548 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: what a person looks like, using only their voice as guidance. Well, 549 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: the same tactic works here. There is a reason why 550 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: I wear that white T shirt. But if I don't 551 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: give it to you, it's not the worst thing in 552 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: the world. You get to fill in your own reason 553 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: for it, and you get to assume you're right, and 554 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: maybe some of you are, maybe some of you aren't. 555 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: But there is a reason I'm not gonna share it. 556 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: That's going to be part of the fun of the 557 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: show is you get to decide for yourself why this 558 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: white T shirt gets worn. I will say this, Sam, 559 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: I do own more than one of them. I own 560 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: several more than one. But the real question you should 561 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: be asking is do I actually wear more than one? 562 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: Let's grab David's here. He was supposed to be first, 563 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: and I completely skipped over it. My bad, David. If 564 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: I didn't tell you that, you wouldn't have known, though, 565 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: so that was my fault. So David, in any event, 566 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: asks I came across a highlight video the other day 567 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: from the twenty twelve Texas A and M Alabama game, 568 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: and it got me thinking, just how much of a 569 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: ripple effect do you think Johnny Manziel had on the 570 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: game of college football. I don't think it can be overstated, David, 571 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: I really don't. I think to myself what we thought 572 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: of quarterback as before and after that, and that was 573 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: already in an era where the idea of what you 574 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: could do at quarterback was changing a little bit, because 575 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: I think Cam Newton did that a little bit. I 576 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: think Oregon was in the process somewhat of doing that. 577 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: But then at A and M. Manziel is a guy 578 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: that ninety percent of programs when they recruited him. I 579 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: mean to begin with A and M had Manzel because 580 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: other programs recruited him as a skill guy, as an athlete, 581 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: as a wide receiver or a dB. They just simply 582 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: did not look at that skill set and say we 583 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: want to hitch our wagon to that at quarterback. It's 584 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: just too high risk. There's reward obviously with putting an 585 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: athlete that caliber there, but it's just too high risk. 586 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: I used to watch Texas A and M games, and 587 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: I used to listen to all the armchair quarterbacks saying, 588 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: oh shame on all these other programs for not recruiting Manziel. 589 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: Texas didn't even recruit Manziel to play quarterback. Well, yeah, 590 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have either if I played there. This was 591 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle. The bottom line is, if you 592 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: put that principle in play and you were looking for 593 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel's to put it quarterback, for every one of 594 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: those that works out, you may have ten of them 595 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: MoU crash and burn. So is it smart practice? Again, 596 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: the risk reward, it's what you're constantly weighing and recruiting 597 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: when you have limited numbers of scholarships. Do you want 598 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: to risk it? It's easy to watch Johnny Manzil after 599 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: the fact and say, oh, he's good enough to play quarterback. Really, 600 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: can you do that when they're in high school, because 601 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: that's when you're having to make that decision, not after 602 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: they've been on campus two or three years. I guess 603 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: now with the transfer portal, maybe it's a little bit different, 604 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: But yes, he absolutely changed things because once coaching staffs 605 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: saw that happening at quarterback and saw what Texas A 606 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: and M could be, well, then not only did they 607 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: start thinking that in recruiting, they started looking across their 608 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: own rosters and saying, who do we have here right now. 609 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: I can't prove this, but I think maybe that helped 610 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: Blake Simms at Alabama since you're talking about the Bama 611 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: A and M game. I think it helped Blake Sims 612 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: at Alabama because Blake Simms came in and he played 613 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: quarterback at Gainesville High School there in Georgia, the Red 614 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: Elephants by the way, as the mascot there. He played 615 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: high school football as quarterback. But a lot of these 616 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: guys do. When he went to Alabama, you know, where 617 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: they played him. They played him at running back, safety, 618 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: and wide receiver before they ever moved him back to quarterback. 619 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: Several years in and they finally gave him a shot. 620 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: All he did was win the starting job and ended 621 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: up winning the SEC Championship and taking Alabama to the playoff. 622 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know that Blake Sims may not have 623 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 1: just always won that job. I don't think it hurt 624 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: him at all that there was a recent reference point 625 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: for Nick Saban to look at in Johnny Manziel and 626 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: what he did at Texas A and M. And it 627 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: probably doubly didn't hurt Blake Sims that Nick Saban and 628 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: company had gotten beaten by Johnny Manziel. And the next year, 629 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: remember Saban and Bama had to play Manzel twice. They 630 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: go out to College Station, and they had to score 631 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: like fifty points to win that game. I think it 632 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: was forty eight or forty nine to forty two or 633 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: something like that. So it was I mean, it was 634 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: a tough out both times. But yes, I think certainly 635 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: it changed a lot of the perception of what quarterback 636 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: can be. Whereas to that point, if you draw a 637 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: line in the sand pre and post Menzel. Look at 638 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks roughly off that tree by tree, I 639 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: mean skill set. Look at how many quarterbacks have been 640 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: given a shot post Manzel that may never have seen 641 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: the light of day, taking meaningful reps at quarterback pre Menzel. 642 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: That's impact. That's having impact well above and beyond just 643 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: your university and your specific three or four years there 644 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: at a program. All right, we got a lot of 645 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: work to do. I've got to get in the studio. 646 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: We got to put Late Kick Life together today. I 647 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: know a lot of you are traveling this weekend. Be 648 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: very careful. Here's what I ask you to do. A 649 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: lot of you are going to be around buddies. A 650 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: lot of you are going to be around friends and family. 651 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: You know good and well. All of you watch college football. 652 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: Our show is growing leaps and bounds, and here's how 653 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: it's happening. You are talking to other people about it. 654 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: I can tell looking at even just the research we get, 655 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: you can tell when organic growth is happening versus marketing 656 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: based growth. And ours is organic and we got to 657 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: have it continue because it ultimately opens the door to 658 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: do everything we want to do. Some doors have already 659 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: been open you're about to see some shortly or the 660 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: fruits of which you're about to see shortly. Keep telling 661 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: people about the show. All you got to do is 662 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: tell them it's college football and nothing else. Go find 663 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: out for yourself and then we feel confident that the 664 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: product will hook them. Just got to get it in 665 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: front of them their eyes and ears. Five star reviews 666 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: are great on the podcast. We've gotten a ton of them. 667 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: We're about to close in on sixteen hundred. Remember just 668 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: last week we were going for fifteen hundred, So please 669 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: continue to do so. And other than that, just thanks, 670 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: Looking very very forward to this season and it's very close. 671 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: I counted how many shows we have until kickoff the 672 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: other day. Not a whole lot. So hang with us 673 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: and bring other people to the party until then. For 674 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: producer Jordan, I'm Josh Baite. Have yourselves a great Independence 675 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: Day weekend and God bless