1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Ron and Nanian The Car Doctor, nationally 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: recognized auto expert trusted by mechanics, weekend wrenchers and vehicle 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: owners alike. Ron brings over forty years of hands on 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: experience and deep industry insight to help you understand your vehicle. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Join the Conversation live every Saturday from two to four 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: pm Eastern by calling eight five to five five six 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. That's eight five to five 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: five six zero ninety nine hundred, your direct line to 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: honest answers and practical advice. 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You know, if you listened to the 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: previous hour this weekend, you heard me talking about the 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: best repair of the week, the four with the barrow 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: pit that was at a scale in calibration by so 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: many points and it affected how that vehicle operated. So 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: is there a second best repair. Is there something that 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: was almost as good? I could talk about rescuing research 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: Kathy Research. Kathy, her tahoe with the three year old 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: battery in it, died last weekend. I got an SOS 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: call that her battery her car wouldn't start. And the 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: battery is only three years old. And from my internet trolls, 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: it'd say, oh, Ron, I've got a battery that goes 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: twelve years. Yeah, good luck. You must have the one, 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: because I haven't found any of those batteries yet. And 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: in Kathy's case, the battery was tested at the last 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: oil change and it tested great, and I wouldn't expect 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: it to fail, but they do. And I watched this 34 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: battery when we finally got the truck to the shop, 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: go from sitting voltage of about twelve point four And 36 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: as I watched it with no load on it, I 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: put a recording vaultmeter on it. It over time dropped 38 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: all the way down to nine point three, up to 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: ten and a half, down to nine, up to twelve 40 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: and a half. Battery had an internal problem, and it 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: was bad, But that's probably not that's probably is that 42 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: the second most interesting repair? Well, it was probably more 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: interesting about how Cathy was freaking out, but we got 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: her calm down, and you know, Kathy, just just just 45 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: go sit in the truck. We'll we'll get the truck 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: to the shop. I think Uncle Steve comes to mind, 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: and watch how this comes into the picture, right. Uncle 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: Steve always told me that. He said, you'll know you've 49 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: arrived when you were accepted by your peers and they 50 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: listen to what you have to say. Jeff is a 51 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: retired mechanic. Jeff drives a twenty thirteen Honda Accord, and 52 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: I love Jeff to death. Sometimes he will drive me 53 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: crazy with analysis protistant. We'll have to have these lengthy 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: twenty thirty forty minute conversations. I could have changed the 55 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: part in the time we're going to talk about it 56 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: when we're in that ninety percent tile, because that's the 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: other thing, right, we always talk about tell me what's good, 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's bad. It's the job of the mechanic, 59 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: the technician, the diagnostician, whatever name you want to hang 60 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: on us in the year twenty twenty six to get 61 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: to the middle of the problem as fast as as possible. 62 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: And the only way I know to do that is 63 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: you got to tell me what's good. You got to 64 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: tell me what's working on the vehicle. Jep's twenty thirteen 65 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: Honda Accord would fail. The AC every once in a while. 66 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: Every once in a while, the AC compressor would disengage. 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: Now it's a common known problem with Hondas that the 68 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: AC relay the one in the fuse box under the hood. 69 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: If you're driving and you've got this issue, look for 70 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: the fuse that's identified by the snowflake, and you know 71 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: that's the AC. Really, that's that's that's Honda's interpretation. You know, 72 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: air conditioning is identified by a snowflake, which I have 73 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: a I got a lot of comments about that, but 74 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: I can't make them here. And you know that Jeff 75 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: had done the relay, he kind of got caught up, 76 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: in my opinion, into a little bit of paralysis because 77 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: the relay was awful hot. You know, I don't know 78 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: you ever measure you ever measure the temperature of a 79 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: good relay. Has anybody ever gotten to the point where 80 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: they've lifted the hood of a car and they've measured 81 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: temperature of relays? Have we do? We look it enough 82 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: good to know what's bad, And that's the other part 83 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: of look at tell me what's good, I'll tell you 84 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: what's bad. You sort of learn what's what's acceptable. Like 85 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: I know, twelve point two on a battery is the 86 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: beginning of the end, and it is. Yeah, twelve point 87 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: two is my absolute bear bones minimum, and I don't 88 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: like it on a lot of batteries. I see twelve three, 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: twelve four. I'm happier that tenth two tenths of a 90 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 2: difference makes a difference. So I couldn't get Jeff's Honda 91 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: to fail. I couldn't get the AC compressor to stop working. 92 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: We drove it around, we took it for coffee. I 93 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: sent Danny out to lunch one day and he drove 94 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: that car and it rode great. I said, here's what 95 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: we're going to do. We're going to tap into the 96 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: There are two wires that go to the compressor. On 97 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: one's the pink that comes off the relay, and the 98 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: other was the ground. The ground goes right to the 99 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: compressor clutch. The ground is a green wire, the hot 100 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: is a pink. I found that pink going down to 101 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: the compressor, and I told Jeff we're going to put 102 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: a test port here because Jeff has meters. He's a 103 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: retired technician. I said, Jeff, I'm going to put a 104 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: test port here. I gave him a test port. I said, 105 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: when this, when this AC stops working, I want you 106 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: to tell me if you have voltage there. If you 107 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 2: have voltage there, you've got a bad compressor. The clutch 108 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: has failed internally. Jeff was a little weary. Well, what if? 109 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: What if? What if? You know? What's that line? If 110 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 2: is the middle word in life. If your mother had wheels, 111 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: should be a box car. And about two weeks ago 112 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: we did this. So I don't know if it counts 113 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: as this week in the shop, but it does because 114 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: he called me on Thursday. He said, hey, you were right. 115 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: The AC stopped working. I had twelve vaults. I loaded 116 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: the ground, I had a good ground, I had a 117 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: good connection. I voltage dropped across the compressor body. I 118 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: have good ground, I have power. The compressor doesn't come out. 119 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: It's a bad compressor. You know, we didn't change a 120 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 2: single part on that car. We diagnosed it without changing 121 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: a part. Because we broke down the circuit into individual components. 122 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: The would it could have should have. And I think 123 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: that's what makes that a great repair. You know, the 124 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: challenge in trying to do something with a car, The 125 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: challenge in trying to diagnose properly isn't how many parts 126 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: can you replace, It's how many parts can you not 127 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: replace and fix the vehicle? That shows true understanding. 128 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: You know. 129 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: You will see also that as you change more and 130 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: more parts, the more parts you change, sometimes you make 131 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: other problems and that and of itself becomes an issue. 132 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: Linda brought in her for EDGE this week. She was 133 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: going on vacation. She needed an oil change and her 134 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: AC stopped working the night before. She had a P 135 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: zero fifty nine epison frank dash double zero fault code 136 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: for the air shutter grill. The air shutter grill in 137 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: front of most AC condensers radiators, there's a shutter. It's 138 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: like a window blind that opens and closes by computer command. 139 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: An electronic solenite opens up a blind and it allows 140 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: airflow across to regulate and control pressure, temperature, and so on. Well, 141 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: she had a fault code for air shutter open. The 142 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: air shutter was stuck open. It wouldn't close, But it 143 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: was in history, and I know the history of this car. 144 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: An advantage of working on a customer's vehicle that you 145 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: know that two years ago it was involved in an accident. 146 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: They had it repaired at a body shop, and life 147 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: goes on. Well, here it comes this week. It's got 148 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: an air shutter fault, but it also has no compressor engagement. 149 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: So now the question becomes what it's the theory, how 150 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: does the system work? Would an air shutter fault, because 151 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: in theory it could. Would an air shutter fault prevent 152 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: the compressor from coming on? Because Ford would be concerned. 153 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: The strategy would be that if they can't control airflow 154 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: across the condenser, they can't control system pressure. Where the 155 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: compressor work too hard and fail. How are we going 156 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: to prove it? I called Ford Tech Support. I have 157 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: access to that, and they weren't quite sure. They were 158 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: of the belief that the air shutter grill having a 159 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 2: fault code would keep the compressor from engaging, but I 160 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: wasn't convinced because the air shutter was in the open position. 161 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: I thought to myself, if the shutter was in the 162 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: closed position, perhaps they would not allow compressor operation. Let's 163 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: make this simple. I tapped into the hot again or 164 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: red with a white stripe wire. I also tapped into 165 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: the ground leg which fed off the back of the 166 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: clutch and came out to the compressor body, so I 167 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 2: know I had power. I know I had ground no 168 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: compressor involvement, even with the air shutter fault code in there, 169 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: pulled the compressor out of the car. The compressor was 170 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: seized internally. So there's an example of the vehicle had 171 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: two faults. And I believe the shutter fault has been 172 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: there for two years since the grill because the car 173 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: had a front end collision, since the bodywork was done, 174 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: and for some reason the insurance company missed it. So 175 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: I believe the air shutter has nothing to do with 176 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: the compressor, and I was right put a compressor in it. 177 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: That vehicle's fixed. Now the question becomes, will that shutter 178 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: start to work? Will it have override command authority to 179 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: turn the compressor off? I don't think so. Part of 180 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 2: the problem, and I'm going the long way around the 181 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: barn to explain it to you today. Part of the 182 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: problem that we face as technicians is we need to 183 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: understand not just what the components do, but how they 184 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: work together, how they speak to each other, what their 185 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: involvement is what their limits are. If you're looking at 186 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: an AC system that doesn't operate, you're looking at ambient temperature, 187 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: you're looking at system pressures, you're looking at a high 188 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: pressure switch, you're looking at a low pressure switch. Cut out. 189 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: There are things that will electronically effect the vehicle and 190 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: allow it to turn on or turn off that particular component, 191 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: and you're always looking at that. But in a way, 192 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: you're still looking for what's good. Or should I tell 193 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: you about the seventy seven buick that had a bad 194 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: choke and Danny watched me fix the carburetor, set the choke, 195 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: set the carburetor, set the choke pull off, set the 196 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: choke thermostat, and he says, how do you know what 197 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: all that stuff is? Ah, because you can't spell carburetor 198 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: without car doctor in it. Eight five five five six 199 00:10:46,240 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: O nine nine zero zero. I'm back right after this. Hey, 200 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: Next weekend is fourth of July and we will be 201 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: here live doing the live show. We're going to work 202 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: the holiday. Tom by the way, we're working next weekend, 203 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: and no hamburgers for they don't forget the hot bogs. Yeah, 204 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: I'll last time you forgot the hope. I'll have the 205 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: hot bogs, I'll have the watermelon, I'll have it all 206 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: my wife. My wife's making her potato salad, so we'll 207 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 2: we'll be in good shape. 208 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 4: I'll be sure. 209 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: I'm yeah, oh yeah, to get hurt, to get that 210 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: potato salad as the best. But well, I have to 211 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: say it. She's not listening. This More importantly, we're giving 212 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: away card doctor T shirts next weekend, so for all 213 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: our callers, So if you call it next weekend, in 214 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 2: the spirit of the holiday, we're giving away two hundred 215 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: and fiftieth anniversary America Car Doctor T shirts. They're also 216 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: available online if you can't wait until next weekend to 217 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: take your chances, But get out the card doctorshow dot 218 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: com and they're up there. There's also new coffee cups 219 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: up there. We have a couple of new designs, and 220 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: you know, we're kind of trying to expand the offerings, 221 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: so to speak. So but that's next weekend, Next weekend, 222 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: fourth of July show both hours, we're giving away T shirts, yes, 223 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: Tom and this weekend, oh this this week open lines 224 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: right now? Yeah, I see that eight five five five 225 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 2: six nine nine zero zero. We need somebody to call. 226 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: Come on that. We want to you know, because and 227 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: here's why. Because we've also got this advanced Autoparts Diehard 228 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: seventy three piece roadside emergency toolkit to give away sixty 229 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: three dollars value sixty two ninety nine sixty three dollars value. 230 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: If you're stuck on the side of the road for 231 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: your automotive projects big and small, this is the kind 232 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: of thing you want on your side if nobody wants it. 233 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: I've got a brand new loanmower. I could use it 234 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: on that. 235 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: Well. 236 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: I don't think you can. I don't think you're eligible. Tom. 237 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: I don't think it's I don't think it's possible for 238 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 2: you to do that. But let's see if you can 239 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: get a phone call. I think everybody's watching World Cup 240 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: soccer eight five five five six o nine nine zero zero. 241 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: A little bit of tipbit from All Data there. You know, 242 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: their tech tips are so timely they come out. If 243 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: you go out to old Data dot com and look 244 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: under resources, you'll go to the Old Data newsletter. This month, 245 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: they've got Chevy Silverado low idol in the engine stalls. 246 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: The tech tip talks about a twenty eighteen Chevy Silverado 247 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred with one hundred and thirty two thousand some 248 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: odd miles that had a check engine light on and 249 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: it would start and barely idle about three hundred rpm. 250 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: When the technician got into it. The tech tip goes 251 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: on to point out they connected a scan tool. They 252 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 2: retrieved one diagnostic code P zero five h six idle 253 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: control rpm lower than expected. So here's a case where 254 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: we're we're doing our due diligence, we're doing a diagnosis, 255 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: and we've got a low IDOL fault code, which is 256 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: what we had anyway. And he saw he looked at 257 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: fuel pressure smart tech, and he saw fuel pressure go 258 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: as low as twenty six psi as he was accelerating. 259 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: He tried to reset the idle speed. He wasn't successful. 260 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: He had long term fuel trims in the negatives and 261 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: short term fuel trims were zero. And he noticed that 262 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: the low pressure ratings with the kan Kian enough would 263 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: drop off, which means he's got a leak somewhere in 264 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: the fuel system, leaky injector, leaking a hose somewhere. He 265 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: talked to tech support and they started to look at that. 266 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 2: The vehicles are known especially high mileage. They have issues 267 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: with the high pressure fuel pump. This is a high 268 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: and low pressure pump system. And they also pointed out 269 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: that the fuel pump itself can leak. It will cause 270 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: negative fuel trims, which is what we had here the 271 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: high pressure pumps. If it's failing, the diaphragm goes bad 272 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: and fuel gets into the engine oil which will be affected. 273 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: It'll it'll be perceived as an over rich condition and 274 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: it will start to pull fuel out of the base number. 275 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: They gave him some test procedures. They walked them through it. 276 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: They've discovered that the yes, the high pressure pump was 277 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: in dee bed. They put a high pressure pump in 278 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: it and cleared the codes, change the oil and solve 279 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: the problem. Now there's an example of a diagnosis that 280 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: you and't expected to go in that direction. Right, you're 281 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: looking for a low idol. How many of you would 282 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: have been sitting there playing with throttle body mass, airflow, sensor, 283 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: vacuum leak, you know, throttle angle, throttle body cleaning. Think 284 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: of all the best possible potential problems you could have 285 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: gone chasing, you know, to deal with that all good 286 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: stuff and you can get this and this is you 287 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: know what, you can go to old Data dot com 288 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: right now and read the newsletter and it's there and 289 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: there's no charge for it. That's one of the great 290 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: things about it that you know, you can also take 291 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: a look at your DIY stuff, if your DI wire 292 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: and possibly get into that because you know, just just 293 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: you can't fix cars with that information. It's it's it's 294 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: just that big a deal right now. So and anyway, 295 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: let's make a big deal out of this. We got 296 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: Terry and Nebraska fourteen four and fifty and some questions 297 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: and comments. Terry, Welcome to the car Doctor. How can 298 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: I help. 299 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: Terry clime here? Lately? And I just bought a v 300 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 4: vehicle this spring. It's a twenty fourteen f one fifty. 301 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 4: It's a two wheel drive, and it has a three 302 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: point seven V six non turbo, and it has quite 303 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: a few miles, like about one hundred and eighty two 304 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: one hundred eighty three thousand. I was just kind of 305 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: wondering what you would recommend as far as maintenance. I 306 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: was thinking maybe spark plugs to start with, maybe, or. 307 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, do we have any service history. 308 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: Some but I can't find anything where it has had 309 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: a tune up. Okay, run is good, but what that 310 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: means you know, right, yeah. 311 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: Well, define a tune up. You know, if you put 312 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: nine mechanics in a room and ask them what's a 313 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: tune up, you'll get forty two different answers. You know, 314 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: it's it's not like it was so many years ago 315 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: where it was traditional components and ignition parts. You know, 316 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: a tune up today is spark plug. It can be coils, 317 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: it can be fuel system cleaning, it can be decarbonization 318 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: of the engine. And you start talking about other fluids. 319 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: Because in my mind, my definition of a tune up, 320 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: if I could define it in the dictionary with be 321 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: whatever it takes to make the vehicle run as it 322 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 2: came out of the factory. So you know, where do 323 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: we want to go? At one hundred and how many 324 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty thousand miles? 325 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred eighty two eighty three. And it just 326 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 4: occurred to me, does that have a fuel filter or 327 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 4: is that in the gas tank? 328 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: Fuel filter will be in the in the pump on 329 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: the tank. But what I would do is I would 330 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: think ignition components if it's in the budget and they 331 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: were original, they're twelve years old, they're high mileage. I 332 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 2: would consider replacing coils. I would consider a fuel system cleaning, 333 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: and I would also consider drive line fluids, and you 334 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: know doing all that. So tell you what, Terry, stand 335 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: the line. Let me pull over and take a pause. 336 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: When I come back, we'll finish up. I'm running Eney 337 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: in the car. Doctor. I'll be back right after this. 338 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: From the city street, from the city streets, just the 339 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: open roads. Right needs help. 340 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: Run keep your. 341 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: Hey, let's go back to Terry, Nebraska. Terry, you're there, Yes, 342 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: I am so. Spark plugs, coils, fuel system cleaning, right, 343 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: and this is something you can do yourself. You mechanically inclined, Terry? 344 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 4: Not really? 345 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: Well? 346 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 4: Do you want to be enough to get myself into trouble? 347 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: Well? 348 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 4: Do you want to be? 349 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: Do you want to be? I can make you mechanically inclined. 350 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: Do you have an advance or do you have an 351 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 2: advanced auto parts in the neighborhood? 352 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 4: Oh, it's in about till not not real far twenty 353 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: five miles maybe no. 354 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: You know, go hang out down at your local advanced autoparts. 355 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: Go pick yourself up a c R C G D 356 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: I fuel system cleaning kit. I forget the part number exactly, 357 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: but it starts with zero five. It's a zero five, 358 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: zero nine eight. I'm trying to remember the part number. 359 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: I can see it in my mind's eye. It's a 360 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: white box with red lettering, and it's a complete kit 361 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 2: throttle body cleaning. It's got a you know, fuel system cleaning, 362 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 2: uh solvent in there. It's got mass airflow sensor cleaner. 363 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: You can do that, right. You can probably look on 364 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: the CRC website and actually see your procedural video. If not, 365 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to put one up there at 366 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: some point. But the idea is you can do this 367 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: if you want. But a fuel system cleaning would be great, 368 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: a throttle body cleaning would be great. Spark plugs and coil, 369 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: and then we do Ron's rule. If it's new to 370 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: you and you don't know age, mileage, or when things 371 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: were done. If it's wet, change it, break fluid drive line, 372 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: fluid trans differential transfer case, cool it. Right. At least 373 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: now you've got a baseline to work from, and you 374 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 2: know you can kind of work your way out. What 375 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: are the wiper blakes. It's like nobody ever gets rid 376 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: of a car in perfect mechanical condition. And that's the problem. Right. 377 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: I don't know anybody that says, well, I'm gonna get 378 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: rid of my car. Let me put a couple of 379 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: bucks into it and shape it up for the next guy. 380 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: We don't. We're not like that as human beings anymore. 381 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: We were at one point, but somewhere along the way 382 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: that changed. And you know, it's it's to your advantage 383 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: and you can do it. 384 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: How many miles? How many miles do you think a 385 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 4: motor like this is capable of going? 386 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 2: Tell me the tell me the history, right, you know, 387 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: is this a V six? Is this a V six turbo? 388 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: Or is this a non turbo? 389 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 4: No? Three point seven non turbo? 390 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 2: Okay, which I kind of prefer because there's less things 391 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: to break. But it's it's all about it's all about 392 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: the maintenance. But I can tell you this, if the 393 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: undercarriage is in a good condition and there isn't a 394 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 2: lot of rust on it, and it's had some kind 395 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: of reasonable maintenance, I don't know, God forbid, the engine 396 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: failed and it was eight nine grand to put an 397 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: engine in that truck. Have you priced a new truck lately? 398 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 4: Well, they start probably let around forty fifty and go 399 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 4: up to probably a new Effort, probably a. 400 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: New F one fifty. The last time I look starts 401 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: at about fifty seven thousand dollars in four wheel drive trim. 402 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, eight grand for a motor, 403 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: seven grand for a trans things are starting to look good. Yes, 404 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: that's starting to add Yeah, looks pretty good. Right. Of course, 405 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: you got a part's availability issue, but we can we 406 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: can get around that. There's ways to do that. So yeah, 407 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's slowly becoming. And I've read a 408 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 2: couple of articles and financial papers and magazines, the Wall 409 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: Street Journal among them, where they're talking about, for the 410 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: first time, investing in your car, doing maintenance, doing service 411 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: and repair is actually starting to pay off. 412 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 4: And well it always has. 413 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like today, it's more so today, it's 414 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: more so. You know, when a Chevy suburban and I 415 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: keep saying this number, and I'm surprised people don't tell 416 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: me to stop. But when a Chevy suburban with reasonable 417 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: trim is ninety or one hundred and five, one hundred 418 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 2: and ten thousand dollars, I you know what, I'm old 419 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: enough to say. I Remember my first house was ninety 420 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: three thousand bucks. So yeah, you know that's but that's 421 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 2: what I would do, you know, I would. I would 422 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: take it to your local mechanic. Let them put it 423 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: up in the air, let them look at the rust, 424 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: let them get an overall feel for it. Take a 425 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: look at the brakes, take a look at the tires. 426 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: Just for a giggles, look at the date code on 427 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: the tires. It'll give you an idea of how well 428 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: that vehicle was taken care of. The date code is 429 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: an oval shaped marking or tattoo however we want to 430 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: think of it. It'll say something like forty twenty six, 431 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: or in your case, it might be thirty eight twenty two, 432 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: meaning that the thirty eighth week of twenty twenty two 433 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: is the day the tires were made. Right, doesn't say 434 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: when they were put on, but you know, take a 435 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: look at daycoat on the tire. You know, if you 436 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: see a tire on there that's got good tread, but 437 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: it says, uh, you know, eighteen eighteen eighteen. That's the 438 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: eighteenth week of twenty eighteen. That tire is eight years 439 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: old and it's due, you know, So you can get 440 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: you can get a position on it from there too. 441 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 4: All right, but God, spend some money information. 442 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: Yep, spend some money, sir. 443 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 4: All right, Terry, sure, thank you. And have you given 444 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 4: the tool away by a chance? 445 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: No, But you know what I was just going to 446 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: say to Tom. Tom, stay on the line, because we're 447 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: going to send it out your way and you can 448 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: put that in the glove compartment in your new truck 449 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: and use it well. This way, when you go down 450 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 2: to advanced autoparts, you can tell them, Hey, look, I'm 451 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: the lucky tool winner. How's that. 452 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 4: I really appreciate that. 453 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: Thank you, Ron, You're very welcome. 454 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: Terry. 455 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: You'll be well and have a good rest of the weekend. 456 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: Take good care, yes, sir, Yeah, everybody wants to get 457 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: into the act. That's okay, Tom, we'll get your information. 458 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: I want to respond to this email. This comes to 459 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: us from John. Hey, Ron, I've got a twenty thirteen 460 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: Nissan Censor. I've got throttle body problems. I can't get 461 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: the throttle sensors to line up with the computer on 462 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: the car. I replaced the throttle body with a new one. 463 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 2: It didn't work. I went through a series of tests 464 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: and resets that haven't been able to work. I've had 465 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: my mechanic work on it. We put a used throttle 466 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 2: body on from a Junkyard. I'm still having the same results. 467 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 2: I replaced the mass airflow sensor, I've replaced several other 468 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 2: components and nothing's working. Do you have any advice. I'll 469 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: tell you what, John, The older Nissans were fussy, to 470 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: say the least right. They were kind of critical how 471 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 2: you approached it. And one of the steps that you 472 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: may or may not see anywhere but factory service information, 473 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: was the engine had to be at running temperature. It 474 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: had to be warmed up, but it has to be 475 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: under a certain rpm, which if you're trying to relearn 476 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: the throttle body, how do you get it under that rpm? 477 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: The throttle is stuck high. It's it's kind of like 478 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 2: stupidity on the part of Nissan. One of the things 479 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: we used to do would be to disable an ignition 480 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 2: coil or pull a spark plug wire and by doing 481 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 2: that at warm operating temperature, we will find that the 482 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 2: engine rpm will typically drop under seven hundred rpm. Where 483 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: seven hundred rpm was the magic number. I would tell 484 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: you to look at factory information see what the minimum 485 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: idle RPM number is and make sure that you're hitting that. 486 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: Maybe you already are, but that's the first thought that 487 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 2: comes to mind. That is the most common mistake, that 488 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 2: idle RPM is not met, and if idle RPM has 489 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: not met, that vehicle will not go into learn mode 490 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: and will not reset the throttle angle. So start there. 491 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: If you need more, you know where to find me. 492 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 2: Eight five five five six o nine nine zero zero. 493 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: I'm Ron an eighty in the car doctor. I'll be 494 00:25:47,880 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 2: back right after this. Welcome back, Ron leading the car 495 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: doctor here at eighty five five six zero nine nine 496 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 2: zero zero. Donald and Louisiana waiting there very patiently. How 497 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: are you? Donald? 498 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 3: Oh? I'm fine. 499 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: What's going on, kiddo? Hey? 500 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: I got a twenty fifteen Chrysler three hundred and is 501 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 3: plagued with cruise control problems. 502 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: Only only cruise control problems I had. I had to 503 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: get that in there. I'm sorry. 504 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a great car. Other than that. 505 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, just. 506 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 3: Cruise has just giving me a blues. 507 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: Have you have you owned it since now? Yes, you're 508 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: aware of the recall. 509 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 3: Uh no, sir, I'm not. 510 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 2: I hate hearing this. I want you to go out 511 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 2: to NHTSA dot gov and been your serial number is 512 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: seventeen digit vin Okay. There was a batch of these 513 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: model year fourteen to eighteen. There was about, I don't know, 514 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: almost nine hundred thousand cars that had problems with communication 515 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: and required a pcm reprogram. There was a software glitch, 516 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: YadA YadA ya, you know. I mean, I doubt it, 517 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: but I just don't want to overlook it, all right, 518 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: because I'm aware of the recall. It was NHTSA recall, 519 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: if I recall correctly, eighteen victor three point thirty two 520 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 2: something like that. And there was another one that went 521 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: alongside of it. So there was a couple of these, 522 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: and I just want to be sure that you're not 523 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: a victim of just a software update right now, if 524 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: I remember right, the recall update. One of the recalls 525 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: was for the crews wouldn't disengage. It's kind of the 526 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: opposite of what you've got going on. But they they 527 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 2: you know, listen, I just want I want to know 528 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: what's good. I want to know if the software is updated. 529 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: I want to know if it's got the correct software 530 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: in the vehicle before I begin to diagnose it. If 531 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: that makes sense, right, yes, And it's easy enough to do. 532 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 2: You just go out the NHTSA dot gov dot gov 533 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: and there'll be a recall tab and you know, you 534 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: can do it for free. Mom always said free is good. 535 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: And just type in your seventeen digit VIN and see 536 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: if there's any open recalls on your vehicle, and that'll 537 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: tell you that works with everything, that works with any 538 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: car sold in the United States. So that's number one, right, 539 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: number two on the assumption that that doesn't do it, 540 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: and you're gonna tell me every part under the sun's 541 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: been changed, right. 542 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: Well, the dealer has changed the switches on the column 543 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: and the clock spring, and it's really doing same. This 544 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: has been going on since new so it intimately would 545 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: work and drop out on the warranty. But now it 546 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: won't even come on, so it may be a wiring issue. 547 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 3: I have no idea anymore. The dealer pretty much throws 548 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: his hands up. 549 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: Now, you know, well that's no excuse. Listen, if the 550 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: car is broken. Here's the challenge, right, because I could 551 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: I could say here and we could talk in the 552 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: next two minutes about fuses, wiring, switches, connections, procedure. If 553 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: you give me a broken car and I can't fix it, 554 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to retire, all right. I mean it's just 555 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: that simple. What am I doing? You know? Why am 556 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: I doing this? There's gotta be a reason. If that 557 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: car is broken, i'd be excited. The first thing I 558 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: want to do is, let's go through the obvious. The 559 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: car doesn't work. Can we plug in a scan tool? 560 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: Because I absolutely guarantee you a twenty fifteen model vehicle, 561 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: we'll have scan tool input for cruise control. Does the 562 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: scan tool see the crews turn on? Does the scan 563 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 2: tool see the brake switch? Does the scan tool see 564 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: me play with the buttons? Does everything go up and down? 565 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 2: I mean basics. Man, what if this was a loose 566 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: fusing the fuse box, wouldn't the dealer feel pretty stupid? 567 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: Well, I've spoken to him about all these things, and 568 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: you know, I asked him about, you know, the function test, 569 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: and he says, oh, well, it won't even come on, 570 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: so I can't do a function test. So I mean, 571 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 3: I'm not wearing sure where to go. 572 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: You need to go to another dealer because it's going 573 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: to be you know my mind. If this has been 574 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: going on since warranty, it's it's going to be under 575 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: warranty because your argument to Chrysler is it didn't work 576 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 2: right since day one, and I've got all You've got documentation, 577 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: you've got service history on this as they've repaired attempted 578 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: to repair it. Yes, then you know there's your argument. Right. 579 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to say to people, you know that 580 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: joke about the guy shows up at the hotel and 581 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: he says, we're all full up. And the guy says, well, 582 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: if the president was coming, would you have a room 583 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: for him, And the clerk says, yes, well he's not coming, 584 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: I'll take his room. You know, sometimes you got to 585 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: say to people, if it was your mother's car, would 586 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: you fix it? Yeah? Because you can't say no to mom. Right, 587 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: it's just so ridiculous. So start on that road. Donald, listen, 588 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Stay on the line. Let Tom 589 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: get your information. We're gonna kick off next week's fourth 590 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: of July bash. We're gonna give you our first two 591 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: hundred and fiftieth anniversary America Car Doctor T shirt. They're 592 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: on the website, but we're gonna send one out to 593 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: you special edition, and just give Tom your information in 594 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: size and we'll get that out to you at the 595 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: end of today's show, and you wear it in good health, 596 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: my friend, when you go into the Chrysler deal and 597 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: let them know you're not playing You're not playing you 598 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: know games here, We're here for the real deal. So 599 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: you want your cruise control fixed? All right? 600 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: All right, man, appreciate it. 601 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: Thank you, You're very welcome. Donald, you be well A 602 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: five five, five, six nine nine zero zero, ron An 603 00:31:43,640 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: Amy and the card doctor. I'll be back right after this. Hey, this, 604 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: we're back. We're going in a little bit though, so 605 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: don't get too excited, just you know. In the world 606 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: of insanity, US proposes to drop brake pedal requirements for 607 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: self driving vehicles. Research Kathy sent this to me because 608 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: she's hard at work. She's always on the job. National 609 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: Highway Traffic Safety Administration proposed on Thursday and the government 610 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: requirements for manual brake pedals and self driving vehicles. Now, 611 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: there's got to be some insanity here that if it's 612 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: a self driving vehicle and nobody's ever gonna sit in it, 613 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: why don't we put a brake pedal in it in 614 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: the first place. So my question becomes, I'd like to 615 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: see the inside of this car. A is there a 616 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: seat for a driver not to sit in? And B 617 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: is there a steering wheel for them to not hang 618 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: on to? So and then see My last question or 619 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: comment would be, if a self driving car became a runaway, 620 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: how would you stop it? Is there a button you push? 621 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: Is there a plug you pull? I'd have to know 622 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: more about it, but I just thought it was kind 623 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 2: of humorous that we're going to drop break pedals out 624 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: of self driving vehicle, So if you're sitting in the back, 625 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: there'll be no way for you to do a manual 626 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: over ride and stop the car. I won't be sitting 627 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: in one anytime soon. I can guarantee you that, because 628 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: that just makes no sense to me. I want to 629 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: point out next week's show also, besides doing our T 630 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: shirt giveaway both hours, Quinn Trimmer will be joining us 631 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: Trimmer Motorsports. He was the young man he's doing racing 632 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: down there Wall Township and the Sportsman Modified. We're gonna 633 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: be talking to Quinn. He's gonna give usn update on 634 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: where he stands in the season. My spies tell me 635 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: I think he's hovering around second place now in the 636 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: group standing, so he's zooming up the ladder, and I'm 637 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: sure I'll have some great stories to tell us about 638 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: pounding around the track. We're going to be looking forward 639 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: to that, and also the fact that next weekend, besides 640 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: doing T shirt giveaways and all that, we're going to 641 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: be here for you guys to answer live questions, whatever 642 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: you've got going on, because that's what we want to do. 643 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: It was an exciting week in the shop this week. 644 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: I can only imagine what's coming next week as we 645 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: try to get out on time for the weekend and 646 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: you know, being ready for the holidays so we can 647 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: all look forward to that. It's been an absolute pleasure 648 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: to be here for you this weekend. I hope you 649 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: got something out of it. I tried to uh, well, 650 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 2: let's just say I tried to express myself as clearly 651 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 2: as I could. I tried to keep Tom off the 652 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: air as much as I could, which made it a 653 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: better show. But as always, I wouldn't be able to 654 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: do this without him because he is my right arm. 655 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: And you know it's funny we talked midweek. You alive? Yeah, good, 656 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: keep going and I'll catch you on the weekend because 657 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: that's the way Tom and I express our love till 658 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: the next time. I'm Ronning Ay and the car Doctor. 659 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Doctor curR advice, don't 660 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 2: ride