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Speaker 3: I'm Jamie eard All. This is Cody Kessler, former NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 3: We're in La.

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Speaker 2: Tom Belasaro already in Green Bay. He's practically moved in.

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Speaker 2: He's our NFL Network insider ahead of this week's draft.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Brent back in New York. But Kyle, what is

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Speaker 2: your plan for the rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: Well, my plan right now is the ponder one thing.

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Speaker 1: Do we think our friends that round Up sponsored and

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Speaker 1: drafts and it's really on the nose and some of

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Speaker 1: the players are going to get rounded up and go

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Speaker 1: higher in the first round.

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Speaker 4: Because if that's true, if there are.

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Speaker 1: Any draft beer companies that want to send any product

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Speaker 4: Here for that. Tom.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the round Up sponsors because of the

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Speaker 1: draft and round?

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Speaker 5: I think that it's because if you take a look

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Speaker 5: the time. Green grass. This is what you want. You

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Speaker 5: get that with roundup, not.

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Speaker 2: A weed insight, not on GMF or when you use

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Speaker 4: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 2: That's right GMFB. Everybody two days away from the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five NFL Draft in Green Bay, which is why

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Speaker 2: we have to get set with the Packers field. They

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Speaker 2: are the host city, the host team, Kyle Brent, we

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Speaker 2: have a former, a legendary Packer coming on the show

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Speaker 2: this hour.

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Speaker 3: Are you looking forward to talking to our.

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Speaker 4: Guest, Donald Driver? All day every day?

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Speaker 1: Driver had a fun deal because he played with farm,

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Speaker 4: He's one of the all time Packers.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of a lot of guys to talk

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Speaker 1: to draft week with the draft in green Bay, that

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Speaker 1: would be better than Donald Driver Number eighty.

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Speaker 4: I love it. Can't wait for me to get in here,

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Speaker 4: all right.

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Speaker 2: That's this hour GMFP plus we have a prospect running

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Speaker 2: back DJ Giddons coming on the show as well. But

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Speaker 2: first we start with our insider. He's just occupying a

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Speaker 3: We don't have to swipe to him. He's right there.

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Speaker 2: Tom Pellizero, give us all the goods on what the

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Speaker 2: Giants are focusing on ahead of.

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Speaker 3: Thursday's first round Jamie.

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Speaker 5: The thought within the league is that the Giants really

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Speaker 5: have two options here. One is best player available, whoever

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Speaker 5: Cleveland does not take the thinking being at number three,

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Speaker 5: Abdul Carter from Penn State, the edge rusher would be

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Speaker 5: that guy. Or they potentially could still draft a quarterback,

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Speaker 5: namely Shador Sanders from Colorado, who they have done as

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Speaker 5: much work on as any team has done on any

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Speaker 5: week for Shador. They had been at his showcase, they'd

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Speaker 5: have all the information. These are big time organizational decisions though,

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Speaker 5: So like a lot of teams, they're gaming out different

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Speaker 5: we've got to have complete alignment of what exactly this

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Speaker 2: Tom, I'm just focused on those words beneath you as

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Speaker 3: Greatness is on the clock. That's a team. But at

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft chaos is on the clock, and I can't

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Speaker 2: wait until then. Ahead of the first round in Green

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Speaker 2: of football Operations John Snyder told Seahawks dot Com quote,

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Speaker 2: I'd be careful when you hear people say this isn't

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Speaker 2: a great draft for quarterbacks. Cody, you are on Are

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Speaker 2: you on board with Snyder's comments and his assessment of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I one hundred percent agree with Schnyder and one

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Speaker 6: of his quotes, he said, it really matters talking about

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Speaker 6: How many times have we seen guys struggle at one place,

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Speaker 6: guys like Sam Darnold, Gino Smith. I'll take it even

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Speaker 6: further back, Kurt Warner went from back and groceries to

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Speaker 6: and the most important thing in my opinion that Schneider

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Speaker 4: I promise you that.

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Speaker 6: But this is one of the biggest mid round quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: I truly believe it's going to be a frenzy from

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Speaker 7: So yes, I agree one hundred percent with Schnyder.

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Speaker 6: It's not a top heavy quarterback draft, but that doesn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, I talked about this earlier in the show,

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Speaker 4: So we start to see things.

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Speaker 1: One of the guys we've talked about a lot is

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Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe, and everyone said, oh my god, he's attending

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Speaker 4: Can that really be true?

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Speaker 1: He comes on the show a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 4: The mock drafts don't have you going in the first round,

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Speaker 4: So why would you go there?

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Speaker 1: Because the mock drafts aren't right, guys, They're never right.

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Speaker 1: I'm started to look at the chess board. I think

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Speaker 1: Milroe is going to go in the first round, and

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Speaker 1: that's not me With sources, you know me, I just

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Speaker 1: Everything's going to be surprising about it. But that's what

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Speaker 5: Tom, So, let's talk about a draft in which you've

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Speaker 5: just go and play a different position. I'm not talking

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Speaker 5: about this year's draft. I'm talking about the twenty eighteen draft.

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Speaker 5: Those guys became Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, and

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Speaker 5: with Sam Darnold. He's bounced around, He's been on four

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Speaker 5: Buffalo had a very clear vision for how Josh Allen

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Speaker 5: vision for Lamar Jackson. There was one other quarterback taking

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Speaker 5: That's a bad context. I'm not saying Josh Rosen would

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Speaker 5: be a great player right now, but the context of it,

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Speaker 5: which is what Cody said mentioned from Schneider's quote, it's

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Speaker 5: all about where you get him, what's the plan for him.

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Speaker 5: That's where really fascinated to see, because you've got talent

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Speaker 5: it's not going to end.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's perfect, Tom, that's a perfect jump for our

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Speaker 2: second down. Let's go, perfect plan, perfect fit, picture, perfect

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Speaker 2: team for Schadeur Sanders.

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Speaker 3: That's our second down, Tom.

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Speaker 5: My dad their values are very similar. I could see

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Speaker 6: Okay, the perfect fit for Shador Standers, in my opinion,

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Speaker 7: I think they take Ashon Genty.

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Speaker 4: I think that's who they have to go with.

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Speaker 6: But if I am Shador Sanders and I'm looking at

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Speaker 7: The top of that list for multiple reasons.

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Speaker 7: I think that can help Shadoor learn from.

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Speaker 7: Also, that gives time for John.

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Speaker 6: The other thing, and the most obvious, is you get

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Speaker 7: Right when you hear Chip Kelly.

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Speaker 6: Go back and watch the tape at Ohio State, watch

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Speaker 6: Shador Sanders when he was in college. It was the

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Speaker 1: All right, I agree with you, and I have three

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, maybe.

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Speaker 1: It's Cleveland, maybe it's Pittsburgh one of those places. But

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Speaker 1: gonna play for Sean McVay. You're gonna behind Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 1: This is not you didn't ask me who's the best

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Speaker 1: gonna replace Schottenheimer after one year. I mean, this would

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Speaker 1: be never mind for Shader. For us, this would be

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Speaker 1: Let's try something new and let's exit from the super expensive,

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Speaker 1: I say, Dallas is my number one choice. I don't

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Speaker 1: a question, I say, Dallas, you got the church giggles?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: This?

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Speaker 2: I thought the third question was perfect for Kyle.

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Speaker 3: That question was perfect for Kyle. Well done. Let's move down.

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Speaker 3: Let's move on to third down.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles have sign center Cam Jurgens to a new

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Speaker 2: to remember Cam Jurgis was freaking out that Kelsey retired.

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Speaker 2: And who's gonna be the originator of the tush push.

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Speaker 2: It's Cam Jurgens. He's the new guy, all right. Cam

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Speaker 2: Jurgens first season Pro Bowl is first big time purchase.

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Speaker 2: He claims he's gonna buy tsa pre check. That's his

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Speaker 2: make of this decision for Cam Jurgens and his TSA

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Speaker 5: I like the subtlety of it. Okay, you're an offensive lineman,

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Speaker 5: You're just supposed to blend in. Your name doesn't get

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Speaker 5: Center was that preceded him. For Cam Jurgens, this is

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is I like this money well spent.

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Speaker 6: We went over there, handle letty our tickets. Go straight

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Speaker 6: Was one of those moments where I said, you just

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Speaker 7: I will never go.

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Speaker 4: Back to those lines.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't love this story more. Sixty eight million dollar

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Speaker 7: And it is a privilege.

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Speaker 1: Because it affords you something that we used to have

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to take my shoes off at LaGuardia.

435
00:17:26,388 --> 00:17:28,908
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it at JFK. I feel undignified,

436
00:17:28,908 --> 00:17:30,948
Speaker 1: I feel filthy. I don't want to stand in those

437
00:17:30,948 --> 00:17:33,668
Speaker 1: two little yellow footprints in that booth in my arms out.

438
00:17:33,868 --> 00:17:34,388
Speaker 4: I hate it.

439
00:17:35,548 --> 00:17:38,228
Speaker 1: I feel like a lab animal or something. I don't

440
00:17:38,348 --> 00:17:40,908
Speaker 1: want to do it. So I'm going to pay that money.

441
00:17:41,028 --> 00:17:43,828
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because you know Cam Jurgens, when he

442
00:17:43,908 --> 00:17:46,228
Speaker 1: travels with the team, he doesn't have to go through

443
00:17:46,268 --> 00:17:48,348
Speaker 1: all that. The teams go through a different protocol to

444
00:17:48,388 --> 00:17:50,228
Speaker 1: they airplane. It's not about that, So you know what

445
00:17:50,268 --> 00:17:53,268
Speaker 1: that tells me. This is about his private time, this

446
00:17:53,308 --> 00:17:56,428
Speaker 1: is about his family time. And without googling, I'd be

447
00:17:56,468 --> 00:17:59,148
Speaker 1: willing to bet Cam Jurgens has children, and when you're

448
00:17:59,228 --> 00:18:01,508
Speaker 1: dragging those kids and their little roller bags with the

449
00:18:01,548 --> 00:18:04,188
Speaker 1: lightning McQueen logo on, I'm like, just get me to

450
00:18:04,228 --> 00:18:07,668
Speaker 1: the bleeping plane. Not to mention folks, Cam Jergens is

451
00:18:07,668 --> 00:18:10,668
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds. The three hundred pound club is a

452
00:18:10,708 --> 00:18:13,668
Speaker 1: different deal with flying commercial. They have a whole different

453
00:18:13,708 --> 00:18:14,668
Speaker 1: set of operations.

454
00:18:14,828 --> 00:18:15,428
Speaker 4: I see them.

455
00:18:15,508 --> 00:18:18,268
Speaker 1: I sympathize he could buy himself.

456
00:18:18,068 --> 00:18:22,028
Speaker 4: A humby a lake house. Some on that nonsense. Just

457
00:18:22,148 --> 00:18:23,228
Speaker 4: this seventy eight dollars.

458
00:18:23,268 --> 00:18:27,628
Speaker 1: I will say one thing, Cam Global Entry costs one

459
00:18:27,708 --> 00:18:31,188
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty dollars and also gets you pre check.

460
00:18:31,588 --> 00:18:35,068
Speaker 1: That's where the value is. So get the Global Entry package.

461
00:18:35,548 --> 00:18:38,548
Speaker 1: Leave your shoes on like a decent human being. I

462
00:18:38,588 --> 00:18:40,348
Speaker 1: could not be happier for you. I hope I run

463
00:18:40,388 --> 00:18:41,668
Speaker 1: into you at the airport. I'll high five to you

464
00:18:41,788 --> 00:18:42,828
Speaker 1: in the pre check line.

465
00:18:42,948 --> 00:18:45,628
Speaker 2: How did nobody come up with the fact that TSA

466
00:18:45,708 --> 00:18:48,668
Speaker 2: pre check? For a time, people thought they were cheating

467
00:18:48,708 --> 00:18:51,668
Speaker 2: the system. I would think many people thought that they

468
00:18:51,668 --> 00:18:55,828
Speaker 2: would want to do away with TSA PreCheck, that everyone.

469
00:18:55,308 --> 00:18:57,788
Speaker 3: Should have to follow the same rules. TSA PreCheck is

470
00:18:57,788 --> 00:19:00,148
Speaker 3: the tush push of security lines. At the airport. Everybody,

471
00:19:00,148 --> 00:19:02,188
Speaker 3: come on, what are we doing? How did we not

472
00:19:02,468 --> 00:19:03,228
Speaker 3: get here? Kyle?

473
00:19:03,308 --> 00:19:05,188
Speaker 2: I would have thought that you have gotten us there

474
00:19:05,228 --> 00:19:07,868
Speaker 2: with TSA. PreCheck is the tush push of security at

475
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Speaker 2: the airport.

476
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what pisses me off about PreCheck.

477
00:19:11,348 --> 00:19:12,628
Speaker 4: You get this PreCheck, You go.

478
00:19:12,508 --> 00:19:14,548
Speaker 1: To the airport, you sign all these forms, you sign

479
00:19:14,588 --> 00:19:16,468
Speaker 1: away everything, you pay, and then you show up to

480
00:19:16,548 --> 00:19:18,908
Speaker 1: pre check and there's these snobs in the air who

481
00:19:18,948 --> 00:19:22,348
Speaker 1: do clear and they're like the super super high end

482
00:19:22,348 --> 00:19:24,748
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, pre checks, that's the siren clear

483
00:19:26,548 --> 00:19:29,548
Speaker 1: and take all your privacy. It's different. It's totally different. Tom,

484
00:19:29,588 --> 00:19:31,308
Speaker 1: there's a better line and they look down on you.

485
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Speaker 4: I don't appreciate it.

486
00:19:32,108 --> 00:19:35,468
Speaker 5: Whatever they invent next, I would take the next level up. Okay,

487
00:19:35,548 --> 00:19:38,268
Speaker 5: Like whatever it is, I fly enough, I will pay

488
00:19:38,388 --> 00:19:41,228
Speaker 5: whatever it costs. Cam Jurgens looks like he goes on

489
00:19:41,348 --> 00:19:44,588
Speaker 5: vacation to Omaha. He doesn't need global entry. He barely

490
00:19:44,668 --> 00:19:47,508
Speaker 5: needs anything. You can drive a tractor there. I need

491
00:19:47,588 --> 00:19:48,748
Speaker 5: everything that I can get.

492
00:19:49,388 --> 00:19:52,508
Speaker 2: Clearly, the beef jerky business is thriving for Cam Jurggens

493
00:19:52,508 --> 00:19:55,188
Speaker 2: because he's got his own beef jerky company Beef Jerky.

494
00:19:55,228 --> 00:19:56,828
Speaker 3: If anybody wants to go check it out.

495
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Speaker 1: I like that that Tom is insulting Jurgens for going

496
00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:03,508
Speaker 1: to Omaha while doing television from Green Bay, Wisconsin.

497
00:20:02,988 --> 00:20:04,388
Speaker 3: Where he's starting my career.

498
00:20:04,468 --> 00:20:05,028
Speaker 4: Rob Trotter.

499
00:20:05,628 --> 00:20:08,748
Speaker 5: Direct Flight, Baby, Direct flight from Minneapolis.

500
00:20:08,828 --> 00:20:13,308
Speaker 4: Right here. Now you lad over in Detroit. You know

501
00:20:13,388 --> 00:20:13,948
Speaker 4: you did.

502
00:20:15,668 --> 00:20:18,348
Speaker 5: Walking straight off the plane. You're in the car in

503
00:20:18,468 --> 00:20:21,868
Speaker 5: three minutes. There's nothing. There's eight gates in one restaurant.

504
00:20:21,908 --> 00:20:22,988
Speaker 5: It's fantastical.

505
00:20:22,988 --> 00:20:24,028
Speaker 4: Love flying to Green.

506
00:20:23,828 --> 00:20:26,148
Speaker 3: Ball perfect, Kim, Jurgen's well done.

507
00:20:29,508 --> 00:20:35,828
Speaker 8: I let it Gay, Donald river Rider gets it.

508
00:20:35,908 --> 00:20:40,148
Speaker 6: I do it down the sideline, still going. Donald Driver

509
00:20:40,348 --> 00:20:41,348
Speaker 6: from a touchdown.

510
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Speaker 1: Z got a fan touch down.

511
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Speaker 4: I'm doing I do it, but it Love? Let it Gang,

512
00:20:51,188 --> 00:20:53,908
Speaker 4: I do it. I'm doing. I do it but to love.

513
00:20:54,188 --> 00:20:56,188
Speaker 4: I do it for the love, but it Gang.

514
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to g MF.

515
00:20:59,028 --> 00:21:02,108
Speaker 2: You have to imagine if there were physical pillars, many

516
00:21:02,188 --> 00:21:05,268
Speaker 2: of which held up Lambeau, this fall name and our

517
00:21:05,308 --> 00:21:07,308
Speaker 2: guests on this show would be one of the group

518
00:21:07,348 --> 00:21:09,268
Speaker 2: that holds that building up, and the history that the

519
00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:12,388
Speaker 2: Packers have is not said without Donald Driver. He is

520
00:21:12,428 --> 00:21:15,548
Speaker 2: a four time pro bowler, a super Bowl forty five champion,

521
00:21:15,868 --> 00:21:17,348
Speaker 2: and he's our friend of the show.

522
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Speaker 3: Jim McPhee, what's going on? Donald?

523
00:21:20,108 --> 00:21:20,308
Speaker 7: Oh?

524
00:21:20,468 --> 00:21:22,508
Speaker 4: Not much. Good to see you all.

525
00:21:22,828 --> 00:21:23,708
Speaker 3: Great to see you.

526
00:21:23,948 --> 00:21:26,588
Speaker 2: As I just mentioned, fourteen seasons in the NFL, perhaps

527
00:21:26,668 --> 00:21:29,308
Speaker 2: most importantly for Packers fans, all of which were spent

528
00:21:29,348 --> 00:21:33,468
Speaker 2: wearing a Green Bay jersey. But besides your playing career,

529
00:21:33,508 --> 00:21:36,508
Speaker 2: you have, your heart is in Green Bay. How amazing

530
00:21:36,588 --> 00:21:38,868
Speaker 2: is it that the NFL Draft is there this week?

531
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Speaker 4: No, it's so truly amazing.

532
00:21:41,388 --> 00:21:43,668
Speaker 8: I think that's what everybody wanted to see, and now

533
00:21:43,708 --> 00:21:46,388
Speaker 8: we have it firsthand, and no one really knows the

534
00:21:46,428 --> 00:21:49,028
Speaker 8: area as well as we do as players. But it's

535
00:21:49,068 --> 00:21:52,628
Speaker 8: an iconic, historic place to be and so I was

536
00:21:52,668 --> 00:21:55,148
Speaker 8: blessed to play fourteen years there and some people don't

537
00:21:55,148 --> 00:21:57,908
Speaker 8: get that opportunity. But it's a place that's going to

538
00:21:57,948 --> 00:22:00,188
Speaker 8: be exciting to see the draft come there. I just

539
00:22:00,188 --> 00:22:02,068
Speaker 8: fund it because I said, you know, I wish my

540
00:22:02,068 --> 00:22:03,828
Speaker 8: son would have been getting drafted this year because it'd

541
00:22:03,828 --> 00:22:05,428
Speaker 8: have been pretty cool go back home where he was

542
00:22:05,428 --> 00:22:07,628
Speaker 8: born and raised. But he still has two years left,

543
00:22:07,668 --> 00:22:08,628
Speaker 8: so we'll see what happens.

544
00:22:09,868 --> 00:22:11,548
Speaker 1: Oh man, we got him on the big board.

545
00:22:12,028 --> 00:22:14,348
Speaker 4: He's got all the mock drafts are going to have driver.

546
00:22:14,508 --> 00:22:16,308
Speaker 4: I love this. I love the ear on the show.

547
00:22:16,668 --> 00:22:20,588
Speaker 1: So many years watching you, including Donald way back five

548
00:22:20,948 --> 00:22:23,748
Speaker 1: six o seven, we look at the Aaron Rodgers that

549
00:22:23,788 --> 00:22:26,068
Speaker 1: everybody watches and talks about now, and you were there

550
00:22:26,108 --> 00:22:29,508
Speaker 1: for the origin story when he got drafted controversially to

551
00:22:29,588 --> 00:22:32,948
Speaker 1: Green Bay. What are your early memories, your first memories

552
00:22:32,948 --> 00:22:34,668
Speaker 1: of Rogers joining the Packers.

553
00:22:35,588 --> 00:22:37,908
Speaker 4: That he was elite. I think that was approven fact.

554
00:22:37,908 --> 00:22:39,948
Speaker 4: He proved that, you know, weekend and week out.

555
00:22:39,988 --> 00:22:42,588
Speaker 8: I think his first rookie year, he kind of just

556
00:22:42,628 --> 00:22:45,348
Speaker 8: torched our defense in practice and we kind of and

557
00:22:45,388 --> 00:22:48,108
Speaker 8: you know, normally second team goal against our first team defense,

558
00:22:48,388 --> 00:22:49,868
Speaker 8: and he kind of lit it up. And then I

559
00:22:49,908 --> 00:22:51,868
Speaker 8: think we really saw when he played we played Dallas,

560
00:22:51,868 --> 00:22:55,828
Speaker 8: Brett gets injured, were playing Dallas in Dallas, and he almosts.

561
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Speaker 4: Back to win that game.

562
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Speaker 8: And I think at that point we knew that this

563
00:22:57,988 --> 00:22:59,308
Speaker 8: guy's career was going to be bright.

564
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Speaker 5: Transitions from Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacks are never easy. Donald, luckily,

565
00:23:04,388 --> 00:23:06,388
Speaker 5: as only do it like once every couple of decades

566
00:23:06,428 --> 00:23:09,348
Speaker 5: here from far to Rogers. You lived through that back

567
00:23:09,388 --> 00:23:12,988
Speaker 5: in seven and eight then a number of years later,

568
00:23:13,068 --> 00:23:17,108
Speaker 5: it's from Rogers to Jordan Love. Do you believe Jordan

569
00:23:17,188 --> 00:23:19,228
Speaker 5: Love can do the same thing those other guys did,

570
00:23:19,628 --> 00:23:22,748
Speaker 5: win a Super Bowl, win MVPs, become that caliber of

571
00:23:22,788 --> 00:23:23,948
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame type quarterback.

572
00:23:24,788 --> 00:23:26,628
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think you can. I think that

573
00:23:26,628 --> 00:23:28,788
Speaker 8: it was approved fact to be able to say the

574
00:23:28,828 --> 00:23:30,388
Speaker 8: Packers in the last whatever.

575
00:23:30,148 --> 00:23:32,148
Speaker 4: Twenty years have only had three quarterbacks.

576
00:23:32,148 --> 00:23:34,868
Speaker 8: It's truly amazing, right, I mean to go from you know,

577
00:23:35,068 --> 00:23:37,268
Speaker 8: Brett Farv to Anon Rodgers and now to Doing Love.

578
00:23:37,308 --> 00:23:38,228
Speaker 4: Doing Love proved it.

579
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Speaker 8: I mean, first year as a starring quarterback, take him

580
00:23:40,508 --> 00:23:43,308
Speaker 8: to the NFC Championship game, he loses that, then get

581
00:23:43,308 --> 00:23:45,428
Speaker 8: to get into the postseason again next year.

582
00:23:45,588 --> 00:23:46,508
Speaker 4: I mean, sky's a limit.

583
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Speaker 8: The guy is still young, still having a young group

584
00:23:48,308 --> 00:23:50,228
Speaker 8: of receivers, the team is young. I think it's just

585
00:23:50,268 --> 00:23:52,188
Speaker 8: an opportunity to take it to the next level. And

586
00:23:52,268 --> 00:23:54,468
Speaker 8: they're just missing a small piece and you know, we

587
00:23:54,588 --> 00:23:56,828
Speaker 8: got to figure out what that is. And I think

588
00:23:57,188 --> 00:23:59,108
Speaker 8: you know Matt's going to do that in this draft

589
00:23:59,148 --> 00:24:00,268
Speaker 8: as well.

590
00:24:00,388 --> 00:24:02,948
Speaker 6: Don you were a seventh round pick out of Alcorn State.

591
00:24:02,988 --> 00:24:05,548
Speaker 6: You turn that into a fourteen your NFL career all

592
00:24:05,588 --> 00:24:07,308
Speaker 6: with the Green Bay Packers, might I add, which is

593
00:24:07,388 --> 00:24:09,708
Speaker 6: very impressive of your their all time leading receiver. What's

594
00:24:09,708 --> 00:24:12,068
Speaker 6: your message to some of these young NFL hopefuls that

595
00:24:12,188 --> 00:24:13,948
Speaker 6: might go on that seventh round, or go on drafted,

596
00:24:14,028 --> 00:24:16,788
Speaker 6: or go a little bit later than they had anticipated.

597
00:24:17,628 --> 00:24:19,348
Speaker 4: Opportunities. I think that's the fun part.

598
00:24:19,428 --> 00:24:21,388
Speaker 8: I mean me coming from HBCU, I think a lot

599
00:24:21,388 --> 00:24:22,148
Speaker 8: of people felt like.

600
00:24:22,068 --> 00:24:23,228
Speaker 4: We didn't play against the talent.

601
00:24:23,508 --> 00:24:25,188
Speaker 8: But when you look at some of the greatest players

602
00:24:25,188 --> 00:24:27,668
Speaker 8: that have played at HBCUs and now play that play

603
00:24:27,708 --> 00:24:29,908
Speaker 8: in the NFL, they all Hall of famers, right, And

604
00:24:29,948 --> 00:24:32,188
Speaker 8: so this is a proven fact that you know, if

605
00:24:32,228 --> 00:24:32,628
Speaker 8: you get.

606
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Speaker 4: The opportunity, you know you have to make the best

607
00:24:34,708 --> 00:24:36,508
Speaker 4: of it. And for me, that was it. You know,

608
00:24:36,548 --> 00:24:37,548
Speaker 4: I felt like I should have been.

609
00:24:37,548 --> 00:24:40,108
Speaker 8: Drafted high in that year, in ninety nine draft, but

610
00:24:40,268 --> 00:24:42,188
Speaker 8: unfortunately I didn't.

611
00:24:42,228 --> 00:24:43,868
Speaker 4: And so you know, there's only one.

612
00:24:43,708 --> 00:24:46,188
Speaker 8: Guy that has more stat sen yards than me and

613
00:24:46,228 --> 00:24:47,988
Speaker 8: his name is tore Hope. And so that tails you

614
00:24:48,028 --> 00:24:50,348
Speaker 8: right there, that you know backwards, you got to move

615
00:24:50,388 --> 00:24:53,308
Speaker 8: forward on opportunities, and this was my opportunity.

616
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Speaker 4: And you nailed it.

617
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Speaker 1: Of course, it's a crazy thing. With the Packers. They

618
00:24:57,668 --> 00:25:00,028
Speaker 1: have not drafted a wide receiver in the first round

619
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Speaker 1: since O two.

620
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Speaker 4: It's been twenty three years.

621
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Speaker 1: Why is that and you think that can change this year?

622
00:25:06,388 --> 00:25:08,348
Speaker 4: I think it's always been we built in house, right.

623
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Speaker 8: I think you look at the channel level, guys come

624
00:25:10,748 --> 00:25:12,548
Speaker 8: in and have this opportunity, and guys play well.

625
00:25:12,588 --> 00:25:14,468
Speaker 4: Right. For myself was one of those guys.

626
00:25:14,908 --> 00:25:17,468
Speaker 8: You got Robert Ferguson, you get drafted, you got jvaon Walk,

627
00:25:17,548 --> 00:25:20,708
Speaker 8: you got Terry Lee, I mean everybody. It just happens,

628
00:25:20,708 --> 00:25:22,708
Speaker 8: and so the package just feel like we've always built

629
00:25:22,708 --> 00:25:25,588
Speaker 8: it in house and this has always been their tradition.

630
00:25:25,908 --> 00:25:27,468
Speaker 8: I don't know if that changes this year or not,

631
00:25:27,548 --> 00:25:30,228
Speaker 8: but we will see. I think we have a bunch

632
00:25:30,308 --> 00:25:33,708
Speaker 8: of young receivers that can step up and feel those boards.

633
00:25:33,908 --> 00:25:35,908
Speaker 4: But you know, to this.

634
00:25:35,868 --> 00:25:37,868
Speaker 8: Point, I think a lot of people still question have

635
00:25:37,948 --> 00:25:41,108
Speaker 8: they done that? Who's the number one receiver? And we're

636
00:25:41,148 --> 00:25:42,828
Speaker 8: hoping that we can get that in that locker room.

637
00:25:42,868 --> 00:25:44,348
Speaker 8: If not, then you got to go in the draft

638
00:25:44,348 --> 00:25:44,748
Speaker 8: and get it.

639
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Speaker 3: Donald. Can you help settle something for me?

640
00:25:46,988 --> 00:25:50,148
Speaker 2: I am born and raised in Minnesota, a native Vikings fan.

641
00:25:50,508 --> 00:25:52,268
Speaker 2: Memories of you coming to the building.

642
00:25:52,548 --> 00:25:55,308
Speaker 3: We know the history. I think the NFC.

643
00:25:54,988 --> 00:25:59,428
Speaker 2: North has the best rivalry across all four teams. What

644
00:26:00,028 --> 00:26:02,348
Speaker 2: were the rivalries like for you when you were playing

645
00:26:02,348 --> 00:26:04,268
Speaker 2: in Green Bay? And can you compare it to now

646
00:26:04,428 --> 00:26:06,708
Speaker 2: because the Lions are having a moment now when we're

647
00:26:06,748 --> 00:26:09,468
Speaker 2: constantly trying to make an argument for the Bears, take

648
00:26:09,548 --> 00:26:13,228
Speaker 2: us back maybe to your experience Packers team hate that

649
00:26:13,268 --> 00:26:15,068
Speaker 2: they have for other teams, and then what are you

650
00:26:15,108 --> 00:26:16,468
Speaker 2: seeing now within the division?

651
00:26:17,268 --> 00:26:19,188
Speaker 8: No, I think you know, we've always called it the

652
00:26:19,188 --> 00:26:21,588
Speaker 8: Black and Blue Division for a reason. Right, it doesn't

653
00:26:21,588 --> 00:26:23,708
Speaker 8: matter what the record is. Every time we play each other,

654
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Speaker 8: it's a straight battle. And so we've proven that, you know,

655
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Speaker 8: year in a year out, and so the practice have

656
00:26:29,228 --> 00:26:31,348
Speaker 8: always been at the top. And you see Detroit last

657
00:26:31,428 --> 00:26:34,228
Speaker 8: year proven that they're they're stepping up to that plate.

658
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Speaker 8: I think it's going to be Chicago is always going

659
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Speaker 8: to fall short every single year, and then Minnesota, you

660
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Speaker 8: got to give them credit, stepped up. But you know,

661
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Speaker 8: I think it's you know, you got to keep the

662
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Speaker 8: pieces together to make the run. And so we hope

663
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Speaker 8: that we can get back on top and win the

664
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Speaker 8: Central and then at that point, you guys can just

665
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Speaker 8: sign and take them back seats to what we do.

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Speaker 3: That was perfect.

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Speaker 4: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: So the next thing I want to ask you was

669
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Speaker 2: more about your family. So I too have daughters, our

670
00:27:04,668 --> 00:27:06,508
Speaker 2: girl family. This is something that you and I have

671
00:27:06,628 --> 00:27:10,228
Speaker 2: in common. You are an advocate for youth sports and empowerment,

672
00:27:10,388 --> 00:27:12,948
Speaker 2: especially knowing that you have daughters within your family. You

673
00:27:12,988 --> 00:27:17,788
Speaker 2: have been named Chief Motivation Officer for BSN Sports Surge program.

674
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Speaker 3: What is this about?

675
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Speaker 4: Tell it?

676
00:27:20,148 --> 00:27:22,748
Speaker 2: Could you tell us about the future that you have

677
00:27:22,868 --> 00:27:23,508
Speaker 2: with this group?

678
00:27:24,268 --> 00:27:25,868
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is an amazing program.

679
00:27:25,908 --> 00:27:27,988
Speaker 8: Surge is going on to that first year anniversary and

680
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Speaker 8: with that they made me the chief Motivation officer really

681
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Speaker 8: to empower women to play sports.

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Speaker 4: As you know, me having two daughters and.

683
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Speaker 8: Then also having a sun You know, I can talk

684
00:27:36,788 --> 00:27:38,148
Speaker 8: to my son any kind of way.

685
00:27:38,308 --> 00:27:39,908
Speaker 4: And he understands and he moves on.

686
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Speaker 8: Sometimes you have to talk to your daughters in a

687
00:27:42,708 --> 00:27:44,828
Speaker 8: different way and you have to really sit down and

688
00:27:44,948 --> 00:27:47,428
Speaker 8: educate them. I think sometimes as men, we think we

689
00:27:47,508 --> 00:27:49,748
Speaker 8: have the resources that we need, but sometimes we don't.

690
00:27:49,788 --> 00:27:53,428
Speaker 8: And so SURGE is actually having this the resources now right.

691
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Speaker 8: We want to empower grocery standsports, lead a healthy life

692
00:27:56,828 --> 00:27:58,908
Speaker 8: and then the back end of this. It's a free tool,

693
00:27:59,068 --> 00:28:01,548
Speaker 8: right that we can help you educate and develop coaches

694
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Speaker 8: that they can understand how to coach women in sports

695
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Speaker 8: so that young women don't get pushed out of sports

696
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Speaker 8: at a very young age.

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Speaker 4: I mean everyone that we.

698
00:28:09,028 --> 00:28:11,068
Speaker 8: Know when girls get to pushed out of sports because

699
00:28:11,108 --> 00:28:13,148
Speaker 8: of the coach, and it's not because they don't have

700
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Speaker 8: a love for the game anymore. Seventy two percent males

701
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Speaker 8: are coaches and coaching women's sport, and so have the

702
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Speaker 8: final way to be able to move forward with that

703
00:28:22,588 --> 00:28:24,828
Speaker 8: and teach these coaches how to have these heart to

704
00:28:24,868 --> 00:28:27,028
Speaker 8: heart conversation with these young women so that they don't

705
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Speaker 8: get pushed out of sports at a very young age.

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Speaker 1: It's a great cause and you're a great spokes Before

707
00:28:32,668 --> 00:28:34,668
Speaker 1: it's surge by BSN Sports.

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Speaker 4: I love that Donald.

709
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Speaker 1: Before you go, we have one last question about ball

710
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Speaker 1: and specifically pickleball. Dude, you love it, You're playing it,

711
00:28:43,108 --> 00:28:45,668
Speaker 1: It's all over your social What is it about Donald

712
00:28:45,748 --> 00:28:46,748
Speaker 1: Driver and pickleball?

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Speaker 4: This love affair that's going on that I can I

714
00:28:50,308 --> 00:28:51,988
Speaker 4: can still go professional in the sport.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think so many people playing this game now,

716
00:28:55,148 --> 00:28:57,108
Speaker 8: you know, I think the football thing is over for me.

717
00:28:57,188 --> 00:28:58,588
Speaker 8: I think I am not trying to go back and

718
00:28:58,588 --> 00:29:00,788
Speaker 8: play at all for any of that. I love challenging

719
00:29:00,788 --> 00:29:02,508
Speaker 8: my son, but I think the fun part about this

720
00:29:02,708 --> 00:29:04,228
Speaker 8: is that I get to play this game and doesn't

721
00:29:04,228 --> 00:29:06,508
Speaker 8: matter of what age group you are, you can be

722
00:29:06,588 --> 00:29:09,148
Speaker 8: the young you guess are the oldest, and UH plays

723
00:29:09,188 --> 00:29:10,868
Speaker 8: game for a very long time. I realized that it

724
00:29:10,908 --> 00:29:13,628
Speaker 8: really brings families together. UH, and this has really had

725
00:29:13,668 --> 00:29:15,828
Speaker 8: brought our family together. My wife doesn't play golf as

726
00:29:15,868 --> 00:29:19,108
Speaker 8: much as I do, but this is what one game

727
00:29:19,108 --> 00:29:19,628
Speaker 8: she does.

728
00:29:19,468 --> 00:29:20,188
Speaker 4: Love to play.

729
00:29:20,908 --> 00:29:24,708
Speaker 2: Excellence bringing marriages together, and you're continuing to bring the

730
00:29:24,748 --> 00:29:27,548
Speaker 2: heat within the NFC North. Donald Driver for everybody, thank

731
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Speaker 2: you so much for coming on and setting the stage

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Speaker 2: before Lambeaus the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 4: Thank you all so much.

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Speaker 3: Donald Driver. Oh my gosh, look at them go.

735
00:29:43,468 --> 00:29:44,068
Speaker 1: Up the middle.

736
00:29:44,188 --> 00:29:47,628
Speaker 4: Kiddicks Kennedy open field breaking.

737
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Speaker 6: Tackles again, kidding, praise Knicks.

738
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Speaker 4: He's got his eyes. And so for the touchdown, it's

739
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Speaker 4: getting DJ. That's my DJ.

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Speaker 1: That's a touchdown, Kansas steak. Oh god, doggy touch down.

741
00:30:12,748 --> 00:30:13,548
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

742
00:30:13,948 --> 00:30:16,908
Speaker 1: Running through Manhattan, Kansas and he runs right to our

743
00:30:16,988 --> 00:30:19,508
Speaker 1: show right here. It is Kansas State running back and

744
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Speaker 1: NFL prospect d Jay Giddens.

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Speaker 4: What's up? DJ?

746
00:30:22,908 --> 00:30:24,628
Speaker 7: House Man?

747
00:30:25,388 --> 00:30:26,148
Speaker 9: Everything good?

748
00:30:26,228 --> 00:30:28,588
Speaker 4: Can't good? Playing good?

749
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Speaker 1: And I wouldn't complain if I was you either, I'd

750
00:30:30,868 --> 00:30:32,508
Speaker 1: complained if I had to tackle you. Though we just

751
00:30:32,548 --> 00:30:35,868
Speaker 1: saw in the montage you got this combination. You're definitely

752
00:30:35,908 --> 00:30:38,508
Speaker 1: an angry runner, but you got the shake too. For

753
00:30:38,588 --> 00:30:41,108
Speaker 1: everybody watching who loves your game and might want to

754
00:30:41,108 --> 00:30:43,428
Speaker 1: have you join their team, how would you describe your

755
00:30:43,468 --> 00:30:44,028
Speaker 1: running stop?

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Speaker 9: I say, well, first, I say I'm a sure Dawn Beck.

757
00:30:49,428 --> 00:30:51,708
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying. I want to focus more

758
00:30:52,108 --> 00:30:54,828
Speaker 9: on catching the ball. But you know last season, I

759
00:30:54,948 --> 00:30:58,548
Speaker 9: say I'm more of an in between tackles from the outside,

760
00:30:58,548 --> 00:31:04,268
Speaker 9: a little bit contact balance. I'm not scared to hear somebody,

761
00:31:05,268 --> 00:31:07,028
Speaker 9: So yeah.

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Speaker 3: All right, DJ. This next question is very important.

763
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Speaker 2: This is like if you tell somebody, oh, I don't

764
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Speaker 2: eat meat, or like, you know, something very triggering for

765
00:31:13,828 --> 00:31:16,868
Speaker 2: people who was a player a running back when you

766
00:31:16,908 --> 00:31:19,668
Speaker 2: were growing up that you watched closely and you tried

767
00:31:19,708 --> 00:31:22,308
Speaker 2: to mind it. We're talking any NFL running back, a

768
00:31:22,348 --> 00:31:24,668
Speaker 2: guy that you loved and you channel when you.

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Speaker 9: Play off the back, I say, Emms Smith like nice,

770
00:31:30,068 --> 00:31:32,468
Speaker 9: I was a dask Cowboy fan growing up, so that's

771
00:31:32,508 --> 00:31:34,828
Speaker 9: somebody I was always looking at when I was playing

772
00:31:34,828 --> 00:31:35,708
Speaker 9: pee wee and all that.

773
00:31:38,428 --> 00:31:41,828
Speaker 5: Did take me back to high school. We're playing varsity.

774
00:31:41,948 --> 00:31:44,188
Speaker 5: I believe to your junior year, you're a zero star

775
00:31:44,228 --> 00:31:46,508
Speaker 5: war crew. You were ready to go to community college

776
00:31:46,828 --> 00:31:48,868
Speaker 5: until you get a call from Kansas State. Can you

777
00:31:48,908 --> 00:31:51,908
Speaker 5: take me back to that moment of finding out that

778
00:31:52,028 --> 00:31:53,548
Speaker 5: Kansas State was an option to kind of how that

779
00:31:53,628 --> 00:31:54,588
Speaker 5: shaped your journey since?

780
00:31:56,068 --> 00:31:56,308
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So, so, like you said, I really start playing varsity

782
00:32:00,388 --> 00:32:04,348
Speaker 9: to my junior year football high school. So it starts

783
00:32:04,428 --> 00:32:06,308
Speaker 9: in my senior year, and I ain't had no offers

784
00:32:06,348 --> 00:32:09,788
Speaker 9: going into my senior year. So during the senior season,

785
00:32:09,828 --> 00:32:12,268
Speaker 9: that's when I got Butler, and I'm finna go to Butler.

786
00:32:12,308 --> 00:32:14,148
Speaker 9: I went on an official visit and everything, and then

787
00:32:14,228 --> 00:32:18,308
Speaker 9: Kennas State they hit me up. I wanted to take that,

788
00:32:18,548 --> 00:32:20,628
Speaker 9: take that chance with me. I ain't had no other

789
00:32:20,708 --> 00:32:24,588
Speaker 9: offers and really just I ain't going no visits none

790
00:32:24,588 --> 00:32:27,148
Speaker 9: because it's right after COVID, So I'm just trusting.

791
00:32:26,828 --> 00:32:28,508
Speaker 4: The process and it.

792
00:32:28,588 --> 00:32:30,948
Speaker 9: Really just once I got on campus, then it was

793
00:32:30,988 --> 00:32:32,788
Speaker 9: just it's just going from.

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Speaker 4: There now, did y'all.

795
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Speaker 7: I'm a former USC Trojan.

796
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Speaker 6: I've heard a few people say that watching your game

797
00:32:37,988 --> 00:32:40,068
Speaker 6: film reminds them of a former Trojan and Hall of

798
00:32:40,108 --> 00:32:42,188
Speaker 6: Famer Marcus Allen. What does it feel like to be

799
00:32:42,228 --> 00:32:43,948
Speaker 6: compared to the great Marcus Allen?

800
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Speaker 4: I mean it feels good.

801
00:32:46,428 --> 00:32:49,028
Speaker 9: Like I always tell people, I want to have my

802
00:32:49,148 --> 00:32:52,388
Speaker 9: own running style. But you know, like the reality of

803
00:32:52,468 --> 00:32:56,268
Speaker 9: it is like if you getting compared to to certain

804
00:32:56,348 --> 00:32:58,828
Speaker 9: like great great players like that, that must mean something.

805
00:32:58,868 --> 00:33:01,668
Speaker 9: You must be doing something right. So yeah, man, I

806
00:33:01,828 --> 00:33:03,308
Speaker 9: like it. So I just gotta keep going.

807
00:33:04,708 --> 00:33:05,428
Speaker 4: Oh there he is.

808
00:33:05,468 --> 00:33:07,308
Speaker 1: Look at we got the highlights right next to you.

809
00:33:07,348 --> 00:33:08,428
Speaker 4: Look you look good right.

810
00:33:08,348 --> 00:33:12,948
Speaker 1: Now on TVDJ, it's you and Mark's even throwing the ball. Listen,

811
00:33:13,788 --> 00:33:17,268
Speaker 1: this guy runs a four four three. He had three

812
00:33:17,268 --> 00:33:20,188
Speaker 1: thousand yards in college and imagine this. He did it

813
00:33:20,268 --> 00:33:22,508
Speaker 1: for one college program only.

814
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Speaker 4: DJ.

815
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Speaker 1: We love you coming on the show. We are rooting

816
00:33:24,868 --> 00:33:26,668
Speaker 1: for you. We are fans of yours. We cannot wait

817
00:33:26,708 --> 00:33:28,188
Speaker 1: to see you play pro ball. Go get him, man.

818
00:33:28,788 --> 00:33:30,388
Speaker 9: Well, definitely appreciate you.

819
00:33:30,428 --> 00:33:30,868
Speaker 4: Stay healthy.

820
00:33:30,948 --> 00:33:32,068
Speaker 7: DJ, Thanks, appreciate you.

821
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Speaker 1: That's DJ Giddons, Jamie here at all, we love him,