1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: I hope all of you are having fantastic Mondays wherever 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: you are across this great country or this great land. 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: A lot going on, a lot of you with different 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: holiday related gatherings, shopping season, so many details to be 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: on top of a lot of you going to be 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: on the road. I want to encourage you to go 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: subscribe to the Clay and Buck podcast. As we know 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: many of you will be out and about with your 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: family and your friends. Maybe just maybe you're in mixed company. 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Maybe you need a little bit of sanity because you're 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: having to hear your crazy left wing COVID obsessed family 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: and you just can't take it. Maybe you can come 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: listen to us. We'll be there for you to hang 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: out with all the way up to Christmas Eve and 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: then we're gonna have we'll be out for a week. 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: But all that, we want to set a new record 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: in December and encourage all of you to go download 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast. A bit of news here the 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: stock market, Buck, we were just talking about this off 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: the air has been wildly, wildly reactive to the Omicron 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: threat as it were, and what exactly was going to 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: be the impact dropped a thousand points in the immediate 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: aftermath of the reports from South Africa. Well, Buck, right now, 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: the stock market is up seven hundred. The Dow is 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: up seven hundred and twenty three points right now. That's 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: up over two percent. So for some of you who 29 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: may have been looking over the last week and noticing 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: that the DOO had made a substantial decline as the 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: threat was out there about what exactly might be taking 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: place as it pertains to omikron, Dow is up two 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: percent right now, and we have got the SMP five 34 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: hundred up just shy of one point five percent. So 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: it seems that the fear that has been out there 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: associated with this newest COVID variant is starting to get 37 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: dialed back at least a bit in terms of the 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: financial world. Again, the stock market took a real beating 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: last week and on the Friday after Thanksgiving associated with omicron. 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: We're a couple of weeks in now people seem to 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: be calming down a bit. Also, want to mention I 42 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: saw this story, Buck, We're gonna talk about Kamala Harris 43 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: and her collapse. Did you see the story over the weekend? 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: The last member of E Company from the Band of 45 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: Brothers group ninety nine years old. I believe that he 46 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: was for those of you who read that fantastic book, 47 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: one of the most remarkable stories about the Band of 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: Brothers in World War Two? Buck. The first time those 49 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: guys had ever been in an airplane. We're talking about 50 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: kids who had grown up seventeen eighteen years old, farms, 51 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: rural areas as they are training in Georgia, the Band 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: of Brothers Group E Company that would be a part 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: of the hundred and first Airborne. The first time most 54 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: of them ever got on an airplane. Buck, they parachuted 55 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: out of it. Can you I mean, what I've read 56 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: that story? Is it such a fantastic book Band of Brothers, 57 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: And obviously I know a lot of you watch the 58 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: HBO miniseries as well. Can you imagine the sheer testicular 59 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: fortitude from those guys? Think about however you old you are, 60 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: the first time you ever got on an airplane, how scared, 61 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: how nervous you were, the first time those guys ever 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: got on an airplane. Buck, they went up in the 63 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: air and they jumped out with parachutes. I mean, that's 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: just different level of bravery man. It is, it is. 65 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: I would tell you the first time I ever got 66 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: into a helicopter, Clay. It was a black Hawk with 67 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: a couple of two forty gulfs on it that they 68 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: actually had ready to roll because we were in a 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: war zone. So that was my first ever helicopter. That's 70 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: pretty scary too. That was interesting, I gotta say. And 71 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: that wasn't wasn't a one off. There was a lot 72 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: of that going on, black Hawks, Chinooks, all kinds of stuff. 73 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: But I will say you were thankful to be in 74 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: the air because at least then you didn't have to 75 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: worry about the IED's on the ground, which when I 76 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: was in humvees and other things, that was always a 77 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: much more. That was more concerning in the immediate sense. 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: Although when you're up in a helo and there are 79 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: guys who are all armed up, you just hope that 80 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: it's a good day's flight. That much. I can tell 81 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: you my uncle who served in Vietnam. He was in 82 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: Vietnam and he was in charge of helicopter repair. When 83 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned that, and do you know what the number 84 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: one responsibility of helicopter repair was. They had to be 85 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: the first guys to go up after they fixed the helicopter, 86 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: so they you know, that's really a fascinating I don't 87 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: know if they still have that same rule in place. 88 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: I think door gunners and see the problem whenever I 89 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: say anything about military history with this audience is I 90 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: know that if it's off in somebody, I radially blow. 91 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: You don't blow the weather like you you try to 92 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: sneak in like the wrong figure for you know, German 93 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: casualties in a battle in World War Two. I'm gonna 94 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: get three angry emails. What I think door gunners in 95 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Vietnam were among the highest casualty percentage, you know, as 96 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: per capita occupations. Those helicopters were just magnets for enemy 97 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: fire well, and I just always thought that was so 98 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: interesting that the way that they made sure that they 99 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: did the absolute best maintenance job repairing those those things 100 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: getting blown up was the first people to go up 101 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: in them after they got fixed were the crews that 102 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: we're working on. Helo maintenance is critical. It was one 103 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: of the big problems with when we were pulling out 104 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: of Afghanistan. The moment you took out US contractors, who 105 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: weren't that the Afghans aren't going to keep those helos 106 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: in the Skyborn knows it. There's no way they're gonna 107 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: be able to keep the Blackhawks and other things. And 108 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: now of course the Taliban, Let's see if they're able 109 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: to keep them there too. I mean, they'll be cannibalizing 110 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: parts within you know, six months, and they won't know 111 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: what to do. Um. But yeah, man, it's a band 112 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: of brothers. A great series, by the way, I mean, 113 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: the Pacific is great. HBO, for all of its woke madness, 114 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: has done some pretty fantastic stuff too. So thanks to 115 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: that generation. Dole obviously we should mention Bob Dole as well, 116 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: one of that greatest generation. Also just in terms of 117 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: a sheer resume, one of the greatest accomplishments, true American 118 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: hero out of Kansas. Bob Dole, also of that generation, 119 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: dying over the weekend. I mean, just a legendary man 120 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: in so many different a great hero worth remembering that 121 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: the you know, Democrat media made him seem like he was, 122 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, some kind of wooden Oh he was too old, 123 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: he was too old. For the job. I remember grinning 124 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: full of you know what, Biden is fine for the job, 125 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: but actual American hero Bob Dole, Oh no, you know, 126 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: let's let's have that. I mean, I don't even I 127 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: can't even use the words on radio for him. That 128 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: fellow Bill Clinton. Oh yeah, that's a good idea. Now, 129 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: the opposite of Bob Dole in many respects Kamala Harris 130 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,559 Speaker 1: as an incredible transition there. So, Buck, we talked about 131 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: when CNN went full attack mode on Kamala Harris. What's 132 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: that probably been a month or so ago that that 133 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: story came out at CNN which eviscerated her. I mean, 134 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's attack mode. I think it's 135 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: as much of an attack mode as you can get 136 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: what I'm kind of going with with CNN and now 137 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: the Washington Post both coming out and saying things that 138 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: aren't particularly surprising to anyone who has followed Kamala Harris 139 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: very closely. She's not particularly likable. She's not a very 140 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: good person towards so you go Kamala very skill. I've 141 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: been told Kamala, but I've also heard she has said 142 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: it both ways, which I mean it's it's a fully 143 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: inauthentic version of now that we talked about last week, 144 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: Buck that there were rumors and whispers in the White 145 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: House that they were going to try to put Harris 146 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: in the Supreme Court, because of course Joe Biden has 147 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: promised to put a black woman on the Supreme Court. 148 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: They can't get Brier to agree to step down right now, 149 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: and frankly, if he doesn't step down in the really 150 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: short term, I'm not sure that the Democrats are gonna 151 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: be able to get anybody seated on the Supreme Court anyway. 152 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: But this is just a sign of how bad it's 153 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: going for her right now in the way, Yeah, can 154 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: I just so to to put this into context for everybody, 155 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: I think you exclaim, I we're not kamal offense. I 156 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: think you've figured that out right, We're not. We're definitely 157 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: not team Kamala here, even even among Democrats, I don't 158 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: even see anybody's team com well, that's the point. Yeah, 159 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: that's that's I'm gonna say. To put this in the 160 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: context even Democrats are like, well, I'm not on team 161 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Kamala either, to include people who work for her, and 162 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: this is the truly amazing line from the piece in 163 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: the Washington Post, because this really, for a lot of 164 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: people summarizes the current vice president. This is the quote, folks, 165 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm reading here from the Washington Post. It's clear that 166 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: you're not working with somebody who is willing to do 167 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: the prep and the work, said one former staffer for 168 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: kamalais with Kamala, you have to put up with a 169 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: constant amount of soul destroying criticism and also her own 170 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: lack of confidence. So you're constantly sort of propping up 171 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: a bully. And it's not clear why end quote that 172 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: is that is like devastating the most because everyone reads 173 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: that and goes, yeah, I can kind of I can 174 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: kind of see that because this is somebody who so 175 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: much of what she would do is ceremonial. It's about 176 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: the optics, right, I mean, the vice president is like 177 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: a glorified you know, ribbon cutting ceremony roll a lot 178 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: of the time. I mean, because we have a fifty 179 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: fifty center. It's a little different right now, but a 180 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: lot of the time, and it's messaging, right, Clay, it's coordinating, 181 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: it's doing things behind the scenes. She can't even manage 182 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: to do that without becoming about as popular as a 183 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: parking ticket. It's amazing. Well, her presidential campaign was an 184 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: abject failure. She dropped out before real votes were even 185 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: and cast, and she was polling less than one percent 186 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: in many of the different jurisdictions in which she was 187 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: hoping to be able to win the primaries. And so 188 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how the Democrats rid themselves of Kamala right. 189 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: Let me explain what I mean by that. If she 190 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: is not the nominee because she is black, because she 191 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: is a woman, then it will be racist and sexist either, Buck, 192 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: And this is maybe where Stacy Abrams comes in. Either 193 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: they need to find a new black woman who is 194 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: potentially more electable, and maybe that's Stacy Abrams. I don't know. 195 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: I think Stacy Abrams frankly is going to lose the Georgia. 196 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: She's done a great job as the fake governor of 197 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: Georgia because she has no response. But the difference is 198 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: Harris at least managed to get herself elected to the Senate, 199 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: so she has a office from which to be able 200 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: to be promoted to the next level. Buck, I don't understand, 201 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: and I continue to come back to this. That's why 202 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: I think I'm starting to think they may try and 203 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: drag Joe Biden across the finish line again. It's gonna 204 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: be because he's the only way that they avoid having 205 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: to coronate her. I'm gonna have to funnel some money 206 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: to you so you can play some of those overseas 207 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: political bets or whatever, Clay, because I would put I 208 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: would put money down, just kidding. I don't know if 209 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: that's legal or not, but whatever it is, overseas, there 210 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: we go, There we go, because I would put money down. 211 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: They're gonna run Joe Biden again. Guys. They'll run Joe 212 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: Biden again, mark my words, Okay, eighty two year old 213 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. They will run Joe Biden again if they have, 214 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: you said, push him over, if they have to literally 215 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: wheel him back into the position to be you know, 216 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if they do another whatever the ceremony 217 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: will be for his second term, but whatever it may be, 218 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: if they have to wheel him with three blankets across 219 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: his knees and a little straw where he's getting apple saut, 220 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: they don't care. They don't care. They will push Joe 221 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: Biden forward because they want the apparatus of Democrat power 222 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: to be where it is. They don't want to take 223 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: any risk here, So the notion of replacing I don't 224 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: think they have the imagination to replace Joe Biden or 225 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: the fortitude of the intestines to replace Joe Biden with Kamala. 226 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: Look at who their candidate was. They had a very 227 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: diverse field in the primary. They know. None of the 228 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: diverse candidates when the Democrat Party, I mean, not including uh, 229 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: you know Elizabeth, Sorry that actually I just stumbled into that. 230 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: Not including Elizabeth Warren. None of the diverse candidates came close. 231 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: Here is an interesting question. We probably talk about this 232 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: when we come back for the next segment. Would Trump 233 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: be able to win by running a Joe Biden I 234 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: know he's not going to do it, but just an 235 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: idea for everybody as we go to break here. Could 236 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: Trump win in twenty twenty four by just running the 237 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: equivalent of a Joe Biden campaign and staying at Maralago? 238 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: Because now the story is Joe Biden. Biden was able 239 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: to run and say, oh Trump, everything he did was 240 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: so bad. Trump's awful, He can't solve COVID. Could Trump 241 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: just basically run a low key campaign I don't. I 242 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: don't think so, because he doesn't have He doesn't first 243 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: of all, he's off all social media and second which 244 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: he had in twenty sixteen and was kind of a 245 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: secret weapon for him. And second of all, he doesn't 246 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: have ninety percent of the media talking about how Grady 247 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: is all day to do all of his work for him. 248 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: But I think Joe Biden is so bad that Biden 249 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: is now the story. It's not Trump, it's how bad 250 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: Biden is. And that's what Biden tried to do in 251 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: twenty But it is an interesting point. 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I mean, he's not like an 284 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: anti fauci sledgehammer swing and guy like I am. He's 285 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: an MD. He's got expertise, he sees the numbers, and 286 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: he says things that you won't hear for some reason 287 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: from some of the Fauciites, and we want to expose 288 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: you to those truths here. One of the big questions. 289 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: One thing that I think we should certainly post to 290 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: the Doc Clay is CDC's Wallenski. She runs the CDC. 291 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is somebody who I think she was 292 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: a pediatrician before, and she's a very loyal Democrat, which 293 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: is quite obvious. She has been willing to say that 294 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: this is likely to become and remember pandemic on all 295 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: the people, endemic within the people right, meaning that it 296 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: exists within a population. She says, COVID is likely to 297 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: be endemic. I think that we have seen now that 298 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: this is likely to become an endemic disease here in 299 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: the United States and really around the world. We have 300 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: many diseases that our endemic who influenza being one of 301 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: them that cause us minor challenges year after year, and 302 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: that we can handle and tackle. And that may very 303 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,359 Speaker 1: well be what happens with covid, so beating the virus 304 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: making it go away. Remember people were talking about measles, 305 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: remember all the measles talk. Clay, Oh, it's just like 306 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: the MMR vaccine for your kids, and people like us 307 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: were saying, No, it's more like the flu shot, mandated 308 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: and mandated every few months. She's admitting we were right 309 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: as far as I can see. Once again, it's never 310 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: going away. That's what we've been saying for a long time, 311 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: that this is. Remember when they got so mad when 312 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: you would say any sort of comparison to covid and 313 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: the flu. Covid is now the flu, and it's going 314 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: to be here forever. And the COVID shots, at least 315 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: so far, appear to be roughly as effective somewhat as 316 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: the flu shot. And so if you just track everything 317 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: that Rachelle Willinski and others have said, everything you've said 318 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: to lie Buck, it was only in May that they 319 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: said this thing was going to disappear once we got 320 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: to fifty percent. Doctor Fauci said we wouldn't see any 321 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: more spikes. You don't have to wear masks anymore. Anybody, 322 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: Remember it was vaccinated or unvaccinated. And now here we 323 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: are with many states having their highest level of COVID 324 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: despite the vaccines that are widely distributed and widely accepted. 325 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: And what do we do with the fact that we 326 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: already know this is becoming Every policy that is being 327 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: adopted right now, the same logic will apply to its 328 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: adoption when it comes to COVID in a year, and 329 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: another year and another year otherwise, Someone explain how I mean, 330 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: what's what's the answer going to be? Oh, caseload will below. 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It's been out a few months now, 357 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: doctor McCarry. Appreciate you joining us, and I want to 358 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: dive right in news of the day build De Blasio, 359 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: New York City, mandating vaccines four five to eleven year 360 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: olds effectively and able to go do anything in the city, 361 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: to go to a museum, go see Santa Claus, go 362 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: to McDonald's. Does this make any sense at all based 363 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: on your knowledge of the data surrounding COVID at this 364 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: point in time, Well, I think it's going to result 365 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: in unintended harm because when you vaccinate somebody who already 366 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: has natural immunity, you expose them to the risk of 367 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: myocarditis and other complications, and those are very rare, but 368 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: in young men and boys it's one in seven thousand kids. 369 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: So it's tragic. Look, you want to encourage vaccination, but 370 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: when you do these rigid mandates, everybody freezes in their 371 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: thoughts and nobody is going to be more likely to 372 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: get it because they're forced to. My kids, both my 373 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: wife and I have had COVID. We've recovered from it. 374 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: We believe our kids have as well, though we haven't 375 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: gotten them officially antibody tested. If you know your kids 376 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: have had COVID and they're young in that five to 377 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: eleven range, would you be advising people to get their 378 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: kids vaccinated. I think the answer is no, but I 379 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: just want to ask you specifically on it. Well, the 380 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: science is actually pretty clear on this, because if you 381 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: look at the fives Are vaccine trial, they say that 382 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: nobody who had the infection in the past tested positive 383 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: in the study, and there's no scientific evidence to support 384 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: vaccinating people who are already immune. And that kind of 385 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: indiscriminate vaccination policy just comes from this attempt to have 386 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: streamlined messaging from the public health officials. It's good for 387 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: their marketing departments, makes their job easy. It's just not 388 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: medically precise. R McCarry. It's back getting over a cold, 389 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: not COVID. Thank But I already had COVID, so did Clay. 390 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: I have a task proving that I had COVID, And 391 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: now I'm being told in New York City, starting in 392 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, that one shot is not enough. 393 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: We need boosters in New York to go to our jobs. 394 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: It's not even just for public accommodations anymore. Deblasio announced 395 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: a private sector mandate for all businesses. I just want 396 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: to know. We also have CDC Director Wilenski saying the 397 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: disease is now endemic, so Why aren't they just being 398 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: straight with the public that given these realities, we are 399 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: now expected to have a they'll be essentially a COVID 400 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: apparatus like this for years to come, perhaps for decades 401 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: to come. I mean, if this disease continues to flow 402 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: and we need to get continuous boosters to top us 403 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: off or whatever they call it, why do we think 404 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: this ever goes away. Well, there's the absolute worst of 405 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: medical paternalism that's coming out right now with no evidence 406 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: to port boosters and young people. They're making these blanket 407 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: recommendations using the omicron fear to push the boosters. Now, 408 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: the irony is, a young person doesn't even need to 409 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: get vaccinated if they have natural immunity, and now you're 410 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 1: telling them, not only do they need two doses, they 411 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: need a booster. Look, I believe mammograms save lives for 412 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: women over age fifty. That doesn't mean I recommend mammograms 413 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: for men and women and children. So we have this 414 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: indiscriminate booster mentality that flies in the face of what 415 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: the experts voted on just two months ago. Remember, the 416 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: FDA experts voted down boosters for everybody by a sixteen 417 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: to two votes. So then the FDA decided we're going 418 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: to make another run at this and push it again internally, 419 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: and we're not going to convene our experts. We'll circumvent them. 420 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: And that's where we get this boosters for all recommendation 421 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: it's mad, it is crazy or McCary appreciate you joining 422 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: us again. JOHNS. Hopkins encourage you to check out his 423 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: book as well. What do we know? What is the 424 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: latest on omicron? I know everybody out there has been terrified. 425 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: The media has done its best to convince everyone that 426 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: it is an existential threat to all of us. What 427 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: is the latest data that you've been able to see, 428 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: doctor McCarry, And how would you suggest people adjust their behavior, 429 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: if at all, based on its arrival in the United States. 430 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm not concerned about omicron. I'm a little hopeful that 431 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: it's less dangerous. If it is more contagious and less dangerous, 432 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: that's actually good for the world given the alternative of Delta. 433 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: So I don't think we should do anything different because 434 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: of omicron. Now, it is important to note that early 435 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: data is suggesting two findings. One is that there's no 436 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: severe cases so far, so it may be more mild. 437 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: And the other data point is that you may be 438 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: more likely to get a breakthrough infection with omicron than 439 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: with prior variance. But those are mild common cold like illnesses. 440 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: The two and a half times more likely to happen. 441 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: That is a breakthrough infection mc omacon. Then prior strains. Remember, 442 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: an unboosted adult in the United States has an extremely 443 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: low risk of hospitalization. If you're immune, your risk of 444 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: hospitalization is one in twenty six thousand, and the average 445 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: age of that one person is age seventy three. Everybody's 446 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: got a different risk tolerance. We need to respect people 447 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: who say I'm okay getting a mild common cold. You know, 448 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm okay living with that. That's statistic Doctor McCarry of 449 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: Johns Hopkins University Medical School, folks, and also he's an author. 450 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: Check out his latest book, Doctor McCarry on the transmissibility point, 451 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: because this was used as the justification initially. I mean 452 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: they keep moving. The constant moving of the goal posts 453 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: from the people I call fauciites is dizzying, right, I 454 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: mean they everything changes every three months. You know, what 455 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: do we have to do? How do we have to 456 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: do it? How long does it go. But on transmissibility specifically, 457 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: they told us that if you get the show, you 458 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: won't get it, you won't spread it. We know that's 459 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: not true. We know that there are plenty of breakthrough infections. 460 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: Do we have some sense of how you know the 461 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: numbers stack up with that? Meaning they were telling us, oh, well, 462 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: you're so so unlikely to get it and spread it 463 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: in July and August if you're vaccinated. But now they're 464 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: telling us all to get boosters. Clearly they're doing that 465 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: for a reason. How many you know, how can we 466 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: kind of gauge the risk of spread from the vaccinated 467 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: versus the unvaccinated. So first of all, I do recommend 468 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: a booster for someone over sixty five that's not had 469 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: COVID and is vulnerable. It does slightly reduce an already 470 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: very low risk of hospitalization. Clay. You know, Doc Clay's 471 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: parents and my parents are vaxed and boostered and they're 472 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: over set to five. So we we are solidly on 473 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: that message. But go ahead. I'm glad now in terms 474 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: of transmissibility, your peak viral shedding and this just came 475 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: out in Lancet a few weeks ago, is the same 476 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: and a vaccinated end unvaccinated person. So what we are 477 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: seeing is vaccines are doing their job downgrading the infection 478 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: to a mild raysymptomatic case. That's why you're seeing case 479 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: numbers continue to circulate and go up in the North 480 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: where it's the viral season. These are mild, common cold 481 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: like illnesses. But the exception of the small segment of 482 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: the US a very precise ten to twenty million who 483 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: are adults with no vaccine, no natural immunity, and they 484 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: have a risk factor. Those are the people getting into 485 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: trouble and still showing up and getting very sick. That's 486 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: a whole different ballpark. That's a different group. We can't 487 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: have society go on hold because they have chosen to 488 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: make a decision I can get vaccinated, a decision I 489 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: would not advise for them. But we know we have 490 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: got the entire world economy on hold because of omicron. 491 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: We have four high level virus labs called BSL four 492 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: labs in the US. We spend a lot of money 493 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: on these labs for so called in case we need 494 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: for bioterrorism. They could do the experiment overnight to tell 495 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: us how well vaccines work against omicron. Instead of this 496 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: ten day delay telling the public we're on top of it, 497 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: we're on this, we've got it taken care of, we're 498 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 1: in close communication. Just do the experiment. It takes six hours. 499 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: You could do it in the lab and answer all 500 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: this uncertainty that's circulating. Well, I want to go back 501 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: to one thing you said a moment ago to Buck 502 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: I believe to one of his questions when you said 503 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: that there was a one in twenty six thousand chants 504 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: and the average age was seventy three. That's if someone 505 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: has gotten the COVID vaccine or if they've recovered from COVID. Right, So, 506 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: for natural immunity or vaccinated immunity, you're talking about a 507 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: one in twenty six thousand chance of hospitalization with the 508 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: average age of seventy three going forward. That's right, And 509 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: that's just from vaccination. If you have natural immunity, it's 510 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: probably even lower. But using other data from natural immunity, 511 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: but that's pretty darn low. And that's right from the 512 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: CDC's website of the weekly risk of hospitalization during the 513 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: peak of delta was one in twenty six thousand Americans 514 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: who are fully vaccinated. I'm okay, with that risk personally, 515 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: and if we find out who that one person is. 516 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: The only state who tells us is North Dakota. The 517 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: average age was seventy three. It probably also had special 518 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: medical circumstances. What does that tell you? You can feel 519 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: good about your immunity right now in the United States, 520 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: if you're fully vaccinated or have natural immunity, I mean 521 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of asking doc before let you go. We're speaking 522 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: to doctor Marty McCarry here. Well, what de Blasio saying, 523 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: which is mandatory shots for kids five to eleven and 524 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: mandatory boosters for already for the vaccinated even you know, 525 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: across all age groups. Are there any doctors who are 526 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: going to speak out against this? You think is anyone 527 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: going to just finally other than you? And some say 528 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: that this is not science based, this is fear based. 529 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: We're trying, you know, the problem is it's hard to 530 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: compete with doctor Fauci. He has so much tremendous influence. 531 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: He gets platformed by all the media. He's never talked 532 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: about natural immunity, never talked about fluvoxamine, which is an 533 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: amazing drug that's already out that reduces COVID mortality significantly. 534 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: It's hard, so we're trying. But let me be very clear, 535 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: there will be unintended harm to young people who are 536 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: vaccinated and already had the infection because we're introducing the 537 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: risk of myocarditis into a system that's already immune. By 538 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: the way, a study just came out of Germany. Number 539 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: of kids in total who have died of COVID who 540 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: were healthy zero in that entire country, age five to seventeen. 541 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: So we've got to put things in perspective. We've lost 542 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: our minds with COVID policy. Imagine a White House briefing 543 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: every year we get the seasonal flu variant that comes in, Oh, 544 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: we have a case in San Francisco of the new 545 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: influenza strain that just landed. You know, we would never 546 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: have a White House briefing for that. I think we're 547 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: could be in a good place. I think we're in 548 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: a good place. I think people should go good about 549 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: their immunity, and I think we should move away from 550 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: mandates so we can encourage people to be immune positively, 551 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: rather than using the excessive reach that they're going to 552 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: retaliate against them. It's going to harden them. Doctor Marty 553 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: McCarry professor at Johns Hopkins University Medical School, author of 554 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: The Price We Pay What Broke American healthcare doctor. We 555 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: really appreciate you being with us. Thanks for giving us 556 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: your ectpartise here on the air. 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Could this 585 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: affect you? What's the Biden administration gonna do? Nobody likes Kamala. 586 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: We got some new updates for you on that. If 587 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: we get to that, and I say nobody, I mean 588 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: there are a few people CNN anchors maybe, but very 589 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: few people seem supportive of the vice president these days. 590 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: But somebody who is under a fair amount of scrutiny 591 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: and loss of public support right now, or we could 592 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: fill in so many names there, Biden, the Cuomos, but 593 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: maybe having the worst week yet of his professional and 594 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: public life would be none other than mister Jesse Smolette, 595 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: who we can't we Clay, and I wanted to bring 596 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: you audio of this because it would be amazing. He 597 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: is currently testifying it is closed. The trial is closed 598 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: to the media, which it should not be. But the judge, 599 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure, realized that this is just It's not only 600 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: Jesse's Jesse Smolette who's humiliated by this, Clay, it's the 601 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: entire media apparatus, including the vice presidents of the United 602 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: States who was tweeting about a modern day lynching and 603 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: all this stuff. I never believe this story. I had 604 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: blue checks who are coming at me and saying they're 605 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: experts in criminal justice and why why don't you? And 606 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys are just not very smart. This 607 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: is obviously not true. The part of this for me, Clay, 608 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: that it was the most galling. I would actually say, 609 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a little squishy when it comes to 610 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: non violent crimes. I tend to be like, people should 611 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: get another chance, you know, I'm not and I don't know. 612 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I try to be a fair minded guy, 613 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, for non violent crimes. Violent crimes, I'm always like, 614 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: lock him up for a long time. Sorry, Jesse, lectured 615 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: the country after he had been caught. Do you remember this, 616 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: He walked out of the courtroom when Kim Fox, a 617 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: Progressive Sorrows backed prosecutor in Chicago. As the progressive prosecutors 618 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: are ruining the country, as we all know, making a 619 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: lot of people unsafe, people are dying because of their ideas, 620 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: Kim Fox tried to not just make this go easy 621 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: on him, try to make the whole thing go away, 622 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: shut down the case and shut it off forever. And 623 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: Jesse came out and lectured us about how he was 624 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: innocent and how people should have leaved him after we 625 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: caught him lying. So when I say the guy should 626 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: go away for a few years, I say lock him up. 627 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: I think he needs some time. I think he should 628 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: go to prison for years. And to the extent that 629 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: we use our criminal justice system to send messages, sometimes 630 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: people will get prosecuted to the full extent of the law, 631 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: not only because of what they did, but because of 632 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: the importance of the message that needs to be sent. 633 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: Look at what Jesse Smalett tried to do. He tried 634 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: to inflame racial tensions and further divide an incredibly divided 635 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: country already entirely for his own benefit, based on a 636 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: why that he knew would sell and travel because of 637 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: the media's obsession with finding examples of anti white racism 638 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: and trying to magnify it and make it look like 639 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: a larger contextual issue in the country. And the reason 640 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: why I think Jesse deserves a massive punishment is because 641 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: he tried to trade on that anti tagonism to bolster 642 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: his own his career and his own ability to make money. 643 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: And as a result, I think he should have to 644 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: bear the consequences of being caught in his why more 645 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: severely than your usual non violent criminal would. I mean, 646 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: when people are obviously guilty and then they get away 647 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: with it, you generally don't expect them. I mean, O, 648 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: Jay didn't come out after the verdict, at least not 649 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: that I remember, and right away start sneering at everybody 650 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: about how you know, how could anyone? I mean he 651 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: did later on because he said he was going to 652 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: find the killers, which I guess he's still pursuing, yes, right, 653 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: But I mean, oj, you know obviously no, you know what, 654 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: that's a bad example because he did something about the 655 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: real killers. Well, I think it's interesting Buck, why is 656 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: this trial not on television. Why is the Epstein related 657 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: Maxwell trial not on television? It seems to me that 658 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: trials that can embarrass the left wing intelligencia in this 659 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: country find their way onto the television dial quite a 660 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: bit less than ones where they can be value. To 661 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: be fair, I was like, I was like ten when 662 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: the oj trial happened, So you were, you know, old 663 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: man Travis remembers it better than I do. I. I mean, 664 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: there's a great book before Jeffrey Tuban became the Tubinator. 665 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: He wrote a great book, The People Versus O. J. 666 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: Simpson that I actually really enjoyed Our People. Actually that 667 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: was made into a good TV series. I saw that. 668 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: Are people really calling him the Tubinator now that? I mean, 669 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: it's better than better than I guess maybe given them. 670 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 1: There might be some kids out there who have to 671 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: get a lesson from their parents about what exactly went 672 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: on there. So I'm calling himself the Tuberator. More on 673 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: the COVID madness and everything else coming up. You're listening 674 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton fund the EIB Network