Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, baby, Dan Patrick Show here Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2: LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you in for
Speaker 2: DP and the guys here. You can hear us before
Speaker 2: the Dan Patrick Show Monday through Friday six to nine
Speaker 2: am Eastern Time three to six am Pacific time right
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio and.
Speaker 3: As always on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2: So we will be carrying you along here on this
Speaker 2: football Friday all the way up until noon Eastern time today.
Speaker 2: So lots of football to talk about, not quite it
Speaker 2: was a football game.
Speaker 3: Is a lot to talk about. A great defense, as
Speaker 3: far would say, right, I'll know, I don't know, man, No,
Speaker 3: that's not great defense. I gotta tell you, guys, I
Speaker 3: really didn't feel really good about Can I ask this
Speaker 3: question before you start on the football part of it?
Speaker 4: Because Var and I were together yesterday and there was
Speaker 4: speculation about why Jonas and Lee. I mean, we kind
Speaker 4: of know why Lee miss yesterday, but we weren't exactly
Speaker 4: sure why Jonas missed yesterday. The speculation was given the
Speaker 4: after Christmas discounts and how frugal Jonas is that he
Speaker 4: wanted to take time off to go Christmas shopping after Christmas,
Speaker 4: since that's that's typically his move. Anytime he can find
Speaker 4: a deal, he can he can find some way of
Speaker 4: cheaping out.
Speaker 3: That's what he'll do. Yeah, they was the shop.
Speaker 5: They said, catch the specials, the mark down specials at
Speaker 5: the dollar store.
Speaker 3: Is that true?
Speaker 2: Well, no, you catch him at the regular grocery store
Speaker 2: because any candy, holiday item whatever, you go through the Dale,
Speaker 2: it used to be the Dale Old bread rack used
Speaker 2: to be what it was called when they were getting
Speaker 2: rid of stuff. So it's always off to the side
Speaker 2: of the supermarket. So when you walk over there, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: everything is slashed and dashed. I just picked up a
Speaker 2: fourth of July banner for twenty two cents.
Speaker 6: You get two cents for the brand new pristine the
Speaker 6: Independence Day folks, it was the hole wasn't off the
Speaker 6: fireworks that like a little poppers into the air, just
Speaker 6: like you know, change it around a little bit called
Speaker 6: New Year's Eve that you always.
Speaker 3: Say your family, lets us off your round though, right, Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that works, Cali. Yeah, they definitely do
Speaker 5: things a little differently around here.
Speaker 3: Yeah they do. They're looking vernye excuse to light off? Fireworks?
Speaker 3: What fireworks? What's going on?
Speaker 5: Oh no, I thought y'all was having family dinner, you know,
Speaker 5: because you off of each other's sandwich and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: By the way, Brady Lee got a haircut. I mean
Speaker 5: Lee's hair is gone. He looks like an altar boy.
Speaker 5: He does. He looks like he's missing his robe. Oh god,
Speaker 5: he shaved it. Dude, looks like I don't know, man,
Speaker 5: I want to say, he looks like he's like.
Speaker 3: Clean, don't I don't know. Are saying the mullet's dirty?
Speaker 5: No, no, not clean, as in, like your mullet was dirty.
Speaker 5: Like you're clean? Yeah, Like like you like total game change. Yeah,
Speaker 5: like you've like taken control of your life. Like you
Speaker 5: look like you could be like a responsible adult right now.
Speaker 5: It kind of scares me a little bit. I don't
Speaker 5: know who I'm looking at. I don't know what I'm
Speaker 5: looking at right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like it. We speculated you were just drunk,
Speaker 3: so that's why you want to take the day off.
Speaker 3: So well, not that I would take it off because
Speaker 3: of that, but did that. Yeah? Sure, there there you go. Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, I mean, so are we two for two?
Speaker 7: There?
Speaker 3: Is that fair to say? Pretty close?
Speaker 8: Like Lee was easy, Mina, it took a little bit, but.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean two byes that is kind of crazy.
Speaker 5: Man like, man, I don't know, that's kind of that's
Speaker 5: almost that's that's a that's an effort, which would have
Speaker 5: been a more of an effort than.
Speaker 3: What we saw on the crime.
Speaker 5: I mean that was and I picked Chicago to win
Speaker 5: our money line Chicago, and I was like, this is
Speaker 5: the perfect game for them, the money line. Let me
Speaker 5: tell you something. They better be glad this isn't a
Speaker 5: longer season because they could have ruined.
Speaker 3: And maybe they have I don't know, but they are on.
Speaker 5: The fringe of ruining Caleb Williams in one season. In
Speaker 5: one season, well white wait for two one they almost
Speaker 5: get it.
Speaker 3: Looks like they've almost gotten it done in one season.
Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. Now that we're here,
Speaker 4: I've gotta I've gotta pose a question. And by the way,
Speaker 4: do you remember that when this team was four and
Speaker 4: two with the chance to bat down a hail Mary
Speaker 4: to go to five and two. Yes, and instead they've
Speaker 4: lost straight since that moment, But it was fresh off
Speaker 4: of bye. Yeah, I digress. You made a statement saying
Speaker 4: in one year's time, they're gonna wreck Killer one. Has
Speaker 4: this one year in Chicago been worse than Bryce Young's
Speaker 4: experience last year in Carolina?
Speaker 5: Oh, it's close. I'm not gonna say it is. I
Speaker 5: will say this. I think the world expected way more
Speaker 5: from Caleb Williams, which means that in totality, this is
Speaker 5: worse because it's a different I think it's a different scenario.
Speaker 5: You look at Caleb Williams versus Bryce Young, It's like
Speaker 5: Bryce Young is in Carolina, He's undersize, like you see
Speaker 5: him come out.
Speaker 3: It's like, can this little dude do it?
Speaker 5: You know the Carolina Panthers, they were going through some things.
Speaker 5: I just think that the Chicago bears the market, the
Speaker 5: history of the organization, how much fanfare was surrounding Caleb
Speaker 5: Williams and all of the hype. I think, in totality,
Speaker 5: this is way worse. I think this is way worse
Speaker 5: because we are met, We are witnessing a can't miss
Speaker 5: generational talent. Compared to Patrick Mahomes go down like it's bad,
Speaker 5: it's not good.
Speaker 3: What's funny about.
Speaker 2: It is all the jokes that bears fans and people
Speaker 2: in the media were making about oh my god, they
Speaker 2: fleeced Carolina on that trade and this and that and
Speaker 2: look at what they got, and Carolina right now picks
Speaker 2: after them in the draft. So bad, They're so terrible,
Speaker 2: and I think it's worse from this standpoint. There were
Speaker 2: expectations going into the year that hey, listen, they've added
Speaker 2: pieces around him.
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4: You had expectations going into the year, but we didn't
Speaker 4: have four wins. Yes, I thought four wins was very
Speaker 4: came really, but yes, we didn't have expect for four
Speaker 4: and thirteen. I mean, that's eventually where they're headed, right.
Speaker 4: They gotta play the Bay next week. Yeah, they're gonna lose.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying we we didn't have expectations. You thought
Speaker 3: they'd be a wild card playoff? You did? Hold on?
Speaker 8: Okay, did you think there would be a four win team?
Speaker 3: Really? Yes, that's it, But I certainly did think. I
Speaker 3: find that hard to believe.
Speaker 2: I don't think I think you thought they were going
Speaker 2: to be a fringe seven to ten football team.
Speaker 3: Not me, not me.
Speaker 5: Who don't put that on me, well, whatever it is,
Speaker 5: put that evil on me. I did not think they
Speaker 5: were going to be good. That is for certain, now
Speaker 5: what their win totals was, because they stink and I
Speaker 5: thought they were going to stink.
Speaker 3: I just I didn't put a win total. I don't
Speaker 3: know that I put a win seven.
Speaker 4: Still a long departure from your playoff prediction before the
Speaker 4: season for the Bears.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but you guys had them not going to
Speaker 2: the postseason, that's correct.
Speaker 3: Did you have them this bad? Yes?
Speaker 2: I I okay, Well I didn't, and I don't think
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 8: Of people had them this bad.
Speaker 4: Well, you're a Bears fan, though, and you still like
Speaker 4: admitting it to everyone air Well, I mean, listen, we're
Speaker 4: not gonna, you know, take pot shots here and everybody.
Speaker 3: We're not doing it. We're not taking pot shots.
Speaker 4: We're just trying to like be open with our audience
Speaker 4: and demonstrate the fact there's some bias there. You had
Speaker 4: high hopes. You're a Chicago fan, you love the Cubs,
Speaker 4: you love the Bears. There it is, and it's out
Speaker 4: there for the public to know.
Speaker 5: You're gonna do it again come next season. Problem, You're
Speaker 5: gonna do it. Absolutely, You're going to do it again
Speaker 5: next season. I've been getting kicked in the nuts by
Speaker 5: them for forty years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you must like it. Can we talk about though?
Speaker 4: One of the most alarming things that I'd be concerned with, okay,
Speaker 4: is in this grand scheme.
Speaker 3: Of what the hell was going on with the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 4: And there's all these reports and discussions about who they're
Speaker 4: head coaching candidate, candidates are, who's making that decision? You
Speaker 4: hear fans, you know, chanting sell the team.
Speaker 3: At last night.
Speaker 4: This is as big give a dumpster fire as there
Speaker 4: is in the NFL, if we're being honest with ourselves,
Speaker 4: because at every single level you have an aptitude from
Speaker 4: whether it's the McCaskey family, they can't figure out how
Speaker 4: to build a stadium if it to me, Arlington or whatever.
Speaker 4: And so that starts at ownership. It then goes to
Speaker 4: Kevin Warren. You look at the roster. I don't think
Speaker 4: the roster's that bad. Whoever, their offensive line needed improvement.
Speaker 4: They really they kind of try to address it, but
Speaker 4: not wholeheartedly the way they should have.
Speaker 3: That's still a big time struggle. The decision to.
Speaker 4: Fire Matt Eberflus, which has done nothing, absolutely nothing for
Speaker 4: this team, of course, and then you hire or you
Speaker 4: elevate Thomas Brown into a position where like, I'm not
Speaker 4: going to take shots at him because he's got almost
Speaker 4: zero experience being in this position. So if you if
Speaker 4: you're out there and you want to hammer him for
Speaker 4: his decision making last night in the final, you know,
Speaker 4: under three minutes go ahead, that's fine.
Speaker 3: You have every right to do so that's your opinion. Horrible,
Speaker 3: but it was horrible.
Speaker 4: It was That was some of the worst clock management
Speaker 4: I have ever seen. And it was shocking to think
Speaker 4: that you have coached in the NFL and that is
Speaker 4: not one of your priorities and understanding. You get a
Speaker 4: big gain when you're in a two minute drive or
Speaker 4: end of games, so you take the timeout. It takes
Speaker 4: so much time to get your group to line up.
Speaker 4: How about the play calling in the final moments. All
Speaker 4: you needed was a fueld goal to tie, and instead
Speaker 4: you're trying to drop back and take thirty yards shots
Speaker 4: down field. And then on top of that, you have
Speaker 4: zero plan for a blitz, zero plan for blitzero every
Speaker 4: single time it hit. I mean, Mike McDonald's gonna be laughing.
Speaker 4: This is a joke. And this is like high school
Speaker 4: Harry stuff where we line up and basically whenever we
Speaker 4: want to bring pressure, it is it takes a miracle,
Speaker 4: which it took a miracle for Caleb Williams to get
Speaker 4: that throw off the DJ Moore just to get a
Speaker 4: first down. Yeah, but like the timeout after a stop
Speaker 4: clock at that moment of it, I mean the whole
Speaker 4: entire thing, the decision to a fourth and inches not
Speaker 4: go for it.
Speaker 3: Then you sit there and get a five.
Speaker 4: Year penalty to back you up, and then you take
Speaker 4: a time out and then decide to come back out
Speaker 4: and go for it like it was for the for
Speaker 4: the NFL, for that level of football, it was the
Speaker 4: worst clock management I can recall since the start of
Speaker 4: the millennium.
Speaker 2: By the way, Thomas Brown became offensive coordinator and then
Speaker 2: head coach in the span of like eighteen days, like
Speaker 2: they looked like they just, well, Okay, we've gotta get
Speaker 2: Rishane Waldron, will ellate elevate him, got to get rid
Speaker 2: of Matt Eberflus.
Speaker 3: Well we'll just elevate him again.
Speaker 2: He's used to this sort of transitioning and he's been
Speaker 2: trying to figure this whole thing out, and they've.
Speaker 3: Gotten worse, Like they're worse and without even the water.
Speaker 5: That's why you I mean, when you when you break
Speaker 5: it down the way that you guys just broke it
Speaker 5: down and presented the way you guys just presented it.
Speaker 5: If I'm Pete Carroll, why wouldn't I take advantage of
Speaker 5: this opportunity. You're You're exposed, You're vulnerable, you're embarrassed. I
Speaker 5: just don't think that there there cannot be any more
Speaker 5: major slip ups or mistakes made by the decision making
Speaker 5: body of of this organization. I just don't think that
Speaker 5: that Warren or Poles one or the other. And it
Speaker 5: could be more warn the more I'm thinking about it,
Speaker 5: maybe it's not as much Poles, but I would assume
Speaker 5: either either way, Poles is screwed, if if, if Warren
Speaker 5: is screwed. I don't I don't know how that works,
Speaker 5: but you gotta believe. As bad as this is and
Speaker 5: as bad as that was last evening, and they showed Warren,
Speaker 5: they showed those guys sitting in the in the sweets,
Speaker 5: looking all comfortable and dressed in their nice suits and
Speaker 5: all that, and I'm like, how could man, I be
Speaker 5: there in a sweatsuit?
Speaker 3: That sweatsuit might have holes in it.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have like a towel around my neck, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, with some Chuck Taylor's on. I'm
Speaker 5: not trying to look like I'm living good right now,
Speaker 5: because this product does not say that I should be
Speaker 5: maintaining that type of image. I should be in war mode.
Speaker 5: He should have had some pain. He should have had
Speaker 5: eye paint on his face, some tape around his fingers, chewing,
Speaker 5: some gum, standing up, pacing back and forth. You can't
Speaker 5: look smooth and you can't look comfortable if that's the
Speaker 5: product that is coming on your watch. This is on
Speaker 5: their watch, and this is bad. It's super bad. I'm
Speaker 5: sitting there watching that joint and I'm like, dude, this
Speaker 5: is d do straight.
Speaker 3: Up two scoops ad.
Speaker 5: You can't just be comfortable sitting there like that something.
Speaker 5: I mean, unless ownership is like, hey, you know, this
Speaker 5: is our business model. We're meeting our business model. I
Speaker 5: don't know what that business model would be and what
Speaker 5: it would consist of, but you can't be sitting there
Speaker 5: feeling comfortable. If you're a decision maker and you brought
Speaker 5: in a generational talent at quarterback thinking that he was
Speaker 5: going to change the whatever was going on in Chicago,
Speaker 5: and this is where he's at.
Speaker 3: He's almost damn there ruined.
Speaker 5: He's almost gunshot, he's almost gun shy in the behind.
Speaker 3: He I mean, he made more mistakes.
Speaker 5: And more you know, more things going on based off
Speaker 5: of how much pressure he felt at times, more so
Speaker 5: than the pressure that was really getting to him. That's bad.
Speaker 5: That's bad, man. You're trying to ruin the dude. You
Speaker 5: might have ruined him in one season.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: That's kind of where too, Like if everyone can acknowledge,
Speaker 2: you watch the game, you go, oh, yeah, offensive line
Speaker 2: is an issue. Well yeah, like that's been the problem
Speaker 2: there for a long ass time, Like, offensive line has
Speaker 2: been an issue for a long time there in Chicago.
Speaker 2: And I kind of posed the question to you, guys, Hey,
Speaker 2: if if Joe Alt was available in the first round
Speaker 2: with that second pick that they used on Roma Dunza,
Speaker 2: would they have taken an offensive lineman or would they
Speaker 2: have gotten the fancy wide receiver there?
Speaker 8: And the point you made was, well, Olu was.
Speaker 2: Available and they didn't take him, So what makes you
Speaker 2: think they would have taken Joe Alt? At like this
Speaker 2: entire setup and the way that this whole thing is done.
Speaker 2: And what's bizarre about it is Ryan Poles was an
Speaker 2: offensive lineman like he would like you would think that
Speaker 2: that would be a priority for him, and it hasn't been.
Speaker 2: They've nickeled and dimed the offensive line and used mid
Speaker 2: round picks, or they've signed one year deal, like they
Speaker 2: signed a guy from Buffalo who once he got there,
Speaker 2: they realized, oh, he's got like an arthritic condition in
Speaker 2: his shoulder, and they signed him to a one year deal.
Speaker 2: They've done patchwork work on the offensive line on the interior,
Speaker 2: and then they're looking around going, god, we can't protect
Speaker 2: the guy. Well, I don't know, Like what do you
Speaker 2: think maybe invest in that side of the ball or
Speaker 2: maybe make that a priority and they haven't for years.
Speaker 3: I think the other thing, too, is again scheme wise.
Speaker 4: So if you don't have the ability to protect a
Speaker 4: quarterback with your five offensive linemen, you've got to adjust.
Speaker 4: You have to start running more seven man protections, bring
Speaker 4: in your tight end, bring in a running back, you know,
Speaker 4: run more gap protections where you're not asking, you know,
Speaker 4: the offensive line to have to win a lot of
Speaker 4: one on one battles. And if that's not the case,
Speaker 4: get the ball out of his hand quick, you know,
Speaker 4: and I understand that's been kind of part of their offense.
Speaker 4: There's been more Deacon dunking and some more screens, but
Speaker 4: you're trying to mix in some different elements and even
Speaker 4: try to find some different ways of sprinting him out
Speaker 4: more instead of just allowing him to have to sprint
Speaker 4: out when they bring an all out pressure.
Speaker 3: There's ways around that. Because here's the.
Speaker 4: NFL, it's a copy cat league. They are going to
Speaker 4: continue to keep bringing pressure time and time again until
Speaker 4: you prove you can beat it. And if you can't,
Speaker 4: one or two things are gonna happen, or I should
Speaker 4: say both of these things are gonna happen.
Speaker 3: You're gonna lose.
Speaker 4: You're you're gonna get beat because you're gonna keep forcing
Speaker 4: him to have to run backwards to then throw down
Speaker 4: the field and he's gonna get hurt eventually. Caleb Williams
Speaker 4: is gonna get hurt for one of these hits, one
Speaker 4: of these plays. It's just a matter of time when
Speaker 4: they keep subjecting him to that.
Speaker 2: You want to hear a little Caleb Williams, Little Williams
Speaker 2: being asked, you want me to do it he want
Speaker 2: me to do to sound that we might have to
Speaker 2: dump it.
Speaker 8: He was asked about.
Speaker 3: You punk mother, do you know what's out and done
Speaker 3: to many? Ruin me. I just want to come out here.
Speaker 4: And at what point do you know, is is it
Speaker 4: like if the fingernail painting stuff, if that stops, like
Speaker 4: is that when we know it's like changed.
Speaker 8: I think it's already stopped.
Speaker 5: His hair was in this curl. Either it's going a
Speaker 5: little bit straight.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just.
Speaker 4: Saying that he's got a completely different look.
Speaker 3: Next year he comes out looking hard, just like rough,
Speaker 3: you know, he was asked. He was asked about the
Speaker 3: he's wearing car heart.
Speaker 4: It's like just bringing his He's got his hard hat,
Speaker 4: lunch and pale.
Speaker 2: This year, he was asked about the booze in Chicago.
Speaker 2: Fans not happy. This is a response.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've only been here for you know, it's my
Speaker 9: first year, so uh, you know, their frustrations, you know,
Speaker 9: go way longer back than you know then I've been here.
Speaker 9: My job is to uh you know, go out there
Speaker 9: and win games, and we don't focus on outside noise.
Speaker 9: The fans are you know, they're gonna cheer and and
Speaker 9: and maybe boos sometimes and you know.
Speaker 3: You you you you can't.
Speaker 9: React to that. It's not something that you know, we
Speaker 9: we react to. We have a job to do, and
Speaker 9: you know, you don't do so well on the job
Speaker 9: some days, and some days you you know, you're you're
Speaker 9: you're pretty consistent. Some days you you.
Speaker 2: Know, you play a great game.
Speaker 9: So you know, I think today was was one of
Speaker 9: those games that you know, I think we played two
Speaker 9: sides of the ball today pretty well, special teams and
Speaker 9: uh defense, and then you know, offense, we didn't play well.
Speaker 9: There was miscues, there was stupid sacks that I was taking.
Speaker 9: I would definitely take the you know, the heat for
Speaker 9: this one.
Speaker 3: Gotta be better.
Speaker 8: So he did say let me.
Speaker 2: One of the reports that came out before he got
Speaker 2: into the NFL was that he wanted stake and ownership
Speaker 2: and if there are channing sell the team, I mean,
Speaker 2: is it too late for that?
Speaker 8: Can he get a piece of this and maybe build
Speaker 8: the offensive line?
Speaker 5: You want to know the way he could try to
Speaker 5: get it? How can he do about using his rapid radio?
Speaker 5: Hell out, all you gotta do is hit that button
Speaker 5: and you'll get that push to talk Walkie talkie and listen.
Speaker 5: It has national lt coverage for clear connection. If you're
Speaker 5: going to use it and hit that one button, so
Speaker 5: listen at the touch of it, that's right, that button.
Speaker 5: You'll get great communication from a great device. It's great
Speaker 5: for your kids. We use them here on the show,
Speaker 5: and if you want to use them, all you gotta
Speaker 5: do is visit rappid radios dot com now and for
Speaker 5: up to sixty percent off and free shipping if you
Speaker 5: do so.
Speaker 3: All right, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, Caleb, you know you wanted to sit there
Speaker 5: and say I wanted to boo too. I'm new to
Speaker 5: the town, but I felt like, hey, if I could
Speaker 5: have joined them in the stands, I would have been
Speaker 5: there booing as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, boo you for picking me.
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, there's a great hot dog cart out in
Speaker 2: front of Soldier Field.
Speaker 3: Have that.
Speaker 2: That was the only one that you want to get.
Speaker 2: That's all you got. I get yourself a Chicago dog
Speaker 2: because the winds are hard to come up.
Speaker 3: Why do you talk like you eat those You.
Speaker 8: Don't eat those Chicago dogs?
Speaker 3: Oh man, come on, please, buddy, when's the last time
Speaker 3: you actually ate food? Last night?
Speaker 2: And we'll go what time what did we have? We
Speaker 2: had had neck? We had what what kind of neck
Speaker 2: was it? Grilled chicken breast? There you go, we had had.
Speaker 3: And before that, when was the last time you ate?
Speaker 8: Actually before that? I had prime rib.
Speaker 3: The night before? Yeah, I did you? Yeah, yeah, night before.
Speaker 3: I didn't ware to god, prime rib the night before.
Speaker 3: How many meals do you to, dad Johannas one and
Speaker 3: a half? Maybe one? Yeah? Maybe one? Yeah. But we're
Speaker 3: supposed to believe you got to.
Speaker 4: Chicago and all of a sudden you turn into the
Speaker 4: type of guy that eats a Chicago.
Speaker 8: Dog him and Carlos Chicago dogs right in front of the.
Speaker 3: Set, just because you know it doesn't mean you eat it.
Speaker 3: Come on, I was there in August.
Speaker 4: I had one that's like me talking about Primanny Brothers
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh, Right, I do. I used to eat it,
Speaker 4: but I don't. I don't go to Pittsburgh and just
Speaker 4: go to Primanny Brothers.
Speaker 2: Lamar said the danger, which is solid, like he's had
Speaker 2: it there, and they said, what you mean, let you
Speaker 2: put that on?
Speaker 3: Take us a break.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show week days at nine am Eastern six am
Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio wapp.
Speaker 7: Hey Steve Covino and I'm Rich Dave and together We're
Speaker 7: Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You could catch
Speaker 7: us weekdays from five to seven pm Eastern two to
Speaker 7: four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and of course the
Speaker 7: iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3: Why should you listen to Covino and Rich.
Speaker 7: We talk about everything life, sports, relationships, what's going on
Speaker 7: in the world. We have a lot of fun talking
Speaker 7: about the stories behind the stories in the world of
Speaker 7: sports and pop culture, stories that well other shows don't
Speaker 7: seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact
Speaker 7: that we've been friends for the last twenty years and
Speaker 7: still work together. I mean that says something, right.
Speaker 3: So check us out.
Speaker 7: We like to get you involved too, take your phone calls,
Speaker 7: chop it up. As they say, I'd say, the most
Speaker 7: interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive
Speaker 7: show on planetar. Be sure to check out Covino and
Speaker 7: Rich live on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app
Speaker 7: from five to seven pm Eastern two to four Pacific,
Speaker 7: And if you miss any of the live show, just
Speaker 7: search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcasts and
Speaker 7: of course on social media that's Covino and rich.
Speaker 3: Joinas.
Speaker 4: Did you notice how Lebron said that, you know, Christmas
Speaker 4: Day is the end?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, even though he loves the NFL, so he
Speaker 5: made it a direct shot at the NFL.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Do you think any of the Christmas Day games for
Speaker 4: the NBA will surpass?
Speaker 3: Was it? Twenty four million? Was the average audience?
Speaker 8: Probably not? Yeah, I'm gonna go with probably not.
Speaker 3: I mean, will it Will it do half those numbers?
Speaker 3: Probably not? Probably not?
Speaker 8: It Just like, I don't know why they can't just.
Speaker 2: Be honest about the situation and stop getting so and look,
Speaker 2: I know that you know, ESPN's got a vested interest
Speaker 2: in it, and there's other people that have vested in
Speaker 2: vested interest.
Speaker 3: In the NBA.
Speaker 2: They want it to work, they want it to be successful,
Speaker 2: and they just cram it down your throats at all
Speaker 2: hours of the day, and god forbid anybody speak out
Speaker 2: and say, look, the product stinks, it's not the same
Speaker 2: as it was. The games are competitive. You've put a
Speaker 2: premium on the playoffs, so why should we watch.
Speaker 3: The regular season?
Speaker 2: Like you can't do that or else you just labeled
Speaker 2: a hater, but then they take it upon themselves after
Speaker 2: they win a Christmas game and one and Lebron wants
Speaker 2: to make it a point that yeah, this is our day.
Speaker 3: This okay.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, like the numbers say different.
Speaker 3: So yeah, do you want the total numbers? Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was twenty four right.
Speaker 4: So it's it's a little difficult to measure because you're
Speaker 4: talking about a streaming platform as opposed to you know,
Speaker 4: broadcast television or cable television. Right, because the metrics for
Speaker 4: like streaming, a lot of times they'll look at, for example,
Speaker 4: how many people tune in for at least one minute.
Speaker 4: So sixty five million US viewers tuned in for at
Speaker 4: least one minute of the two NFL games. Sixty five
Speaker 4: million people, all right. The average during both games was
Speaker 4: north of twenty four million. Twenty four point three for
Speaker 4: the ball you know, Ravens Texans, twenty four point one
Speaker 4: for Kansas City Pittsburgh, which is crazy considering, you know,
Speaker 4: both games are blowouts.
Speaker 3: And this is according to Nielsen, who does all of this.
Speaker 4: The NBA's five slate averaged about five point two five million,
Speaker 4: and that's across ABC, PIAN those platforms.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 2: I mean, but it's their day, Like, no, don't anybody
Speaker 2: step on our toes here, it is our day.
Speaker 5: It's like I said, I think, I think what the
Speaker 5: purpose of that was is to one hundred percent identify
Speaker 5: and and rally the troops that truly truly support the NBA.
Speaker 5: I mean, you even get a couple of trolls on
Speaker 5: on your social media that talk about every time we
Speaker 5: say the NBA doesn't matter, you know, he has something
Speaker 5: to say. I think that it is. There are some
Speaker 5: people that are very very keen on how the NBA
Speaker 5: works and their involvement in the NBA. And while it's
Speaker 5: not as large a market, you know, as as it
Speaker 5: would be for the NFL. I think Lebron James saying
Speaker 5: that he's still sending out like that kind of that's
Speaker 5: sick to everybody who does really really support basketball and
Speaker 5: is really into the NBA. I think he sent that
Speaker 5: as like that's their rally crowd, Like, let me make
Speaker 5: sure that y'all know from Lebron James. That wasn't somebody
Speaker 5: else that could have been any of all the other
Speaker 5: new emerging stars in the league to have said something
Speaker 5: to that effect. It was Lebron James that did it,
Speaker 5: you know, and I thought the timing of it and
Speaker 5: the positioning of the way he did it, he was
Speaker 5: doing there was certainly an agenda connected to him doing that,
Speaker 5: and I don't think that it was in any way
Speaker 5: shape form based upon him thinking that the NBA ratings
Speaker 5: are competitive to the NFL. I think he's just rallying
Speaker 5: his troops, rallying the NBA troops to say, yeah, you
Speaker 5: know what, he's right. And maybe I don't even like
Speaker 5: the NFL all like that. Maybe I'm just all about
Speaker 5: the NBA.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: I'm just here to tell y'all the NBA is not
Speaker 5: as relevant. It's not even close to as relevant as
Speaker 5: the NFL. It's just not in terms of viewership and relevance.
Speaker 3: It's just not. It is what I think the.
Speaker 4: Tough part too, is the NBA players have so much power,
Speaker 4: and if you look at the decline in ratings, and
Speaker 4: if we're being honest with ourselves, there is just a
Speaker 4: much part of it as anyone else. The decision for
Speaker 4: load management and and to take games off. The impact
Speaker 4: that I think it's had not only on ratings, probably
Speaker 4: on just even casual fans, fans that want to go
Speaker 4: to games and then have to worry about, Hey, I'm
Speaker 4: taking my little Timmy to the game, and guess what
Speaker 4: Lebron's not plying he's out tonight and not finding out
Speaker 4: about that till you get to the game, right, and
Speaker 4: he's his favorite player, and you know, who knows how
Speaker 4: much more Lebron's gonna play, and you don't have the
Speaker 4: opportunity to go see him play, like all those things
Speaker 4: that you really don't see in the NFL until maybe
Speaker 4: week eighteen, right, or our guy gets shut down due
Speaker 4: to injury. I mean, just in comparison and comparing between
Speaker 4: the two sports. And I understand it's a bit of
Speaker 4: an apples and or which is because the physicality of
Speaker 4: football versus the NBA. But even in that discussion, part
Speaker 4: of how the NBA game is played now is a
Speaker 4: byproduct of things that NBA players should probably be pushing for.
Speaker 4: Bring back hand checking, bring back more physicality to the game,
Speaker 4: just so we get a little more defense, a little
Speaker 4: more something else to this game that makes it more
Speaker 4: attractive for viewers instead of four guys standing around the
Speaker 4: three point line and just kicking out from an open
Speaker 4: layup to try to shoot a three. I mean, they
Speaker 4: don't take responsibility for why they are where they are,
Speaker 4: and joining the super teams where you guys all get
Speaker 4: together and have three superstars on one squad to try
Speaker 4: to win championships. Like, all those things amongst others.
Speaker 3: Are some of the realities of why they are where
Speaker 3: they are.
Speaker 4: And you know, Jonas, we've talked about this for a
Speaker 4: long time about moving the schedule and saying like like
Speaker 4: why try to compete with the NFL now that the
Speaker 4: NFL seems like they're going to continue to keep putting
Speaker 4: games on Christmas.
Speaker 3: I mean, it originally was more.
Speaker 4: Of a thought of you know, hey, it's just on
Speaker 4: the day of the week that Christmas falls. Well, now
Speaker 4: it's on a Wednesday, right, And the NFL is like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we're comfortable throwing a couple of games there. And we
Speaker 4: found a suitor or a partner in Netflix who's gonna
Speaker 4: pas us a bunch of money too for it, So
Speaker 4: why not, right, It's good for our partnership, good for
Speaker 4: our business. Moving forward, And so next year, what does
Speaker 4: it fall on a Thursday?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, yeah, you can expect to have some
Speaker 4: NFL games on that Thursday too. Moving forward, that are
Speaker 4: going to absolutely dwarf anything the NBA does. But if
Speaker 4: the players don't take accountability for why they are where
Speaker 4: they are, and they don't try to circle together and
Speaker 4: go to the NBA owners and be like, look, you know,
Speaker 4: we're obviously getting paid, we feel good about where we're at,
Speaker 4: but not necessarily with the leagues at like, let's try
Speaker 4: to make this right, let's try to fix this. I
Speaker 4: don't know that there's any players who are really champing
Speaker 4: for that, rooting for that, And that's the hard part
Speaker 4: is like it's only going to get worse. I don't
Speaker 4: think it's going to get better based on the current
Speaker 4: product unless they want to take ownership of it and
Speaker 4: try to be the change.
Speaker 2: They've figured out in the NFL's figured out a way
Speaker 2: to market or brand or present their product differently.
Speaker 3: And better than the NBA has.
Speaker 2: And it kind of reminds me of the UFC in boxing,
Speaker 2: where man, look, I love boxing and I grew up
Speaker 2: a diehard boxing fan. It's not even close the presentation
Speaker 2: and what they've done between the UFC and boxing, it's
Speaker 2: not even close. Like it's it's in another level, like
Speaker 2: the excitement, the energy, how it's packaged, the way they
Speaker 2: the way they bring you the product there, the way
Speaker 2: they're able to promote it on social media, the way
Speaker 2: boxing is like, well, no, this guy can't fight this
Speaker 2: guy because he's got a promoter here, and this guy
Speaker 2: can't fight this guy, and no, no, no, no, we
Speaker 2: have a contract here.
Speaker 8: I can't get out of.
Speaker 2: No. If you do that, you're going to lose your
Speaker 2: belt because you haven't defended it. And it's just too
Speaker 2: many different things going on to where it's hard to
Speaker 2: keep track up man, Like it's hard to know. Okay,
Speaker 2: so who's playing what? Like you've got five games on
Speaker 2: Christmas and the end of a like I look at
Speaker 2: it and I go, there's just a better way to
Speaker 2: streamline it to the audience and to present a better
Speaker 2: product and a better league. And they haven't been able
Speaker 2: to figure it out, and the NFL just continues to
Speaker 2: capitalize on And we've talked about our show. It's not
Speaker 2: like the Christmas games were good, Like both those games
Speaker 2: were blowout. It's like a lot of games in the
Speaker 2: NFL have been non competitive, especially lately when teams realize
Speaker 2: they're out of it. Yet people watch it and they
Speaker 2: prefer that over the NBA and the NBA should take
Speaker 2: notes and be like, how can we do this better
Speaker 2: and differently? And instead they're like, Oh, let's put together
Speaker 2: an NBA Cup and we'll give out a trophy and
Speaker 2: we'll have a celebration in Vegas that nobody wants to
Speaker 2: go to afterwards, even if.
Speaker 3: They want it.
Speaker 8: Nobody cares. Dude, you're not fixing anything.
Speaker 3: Did Levarn Did you say? I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 3: a participation trophy.
Speaker 4: It's like getting guys to play during the regular season
Speaker 4: and games that are I don't know, I mean they're
Speaker 4: meaningful at the end of the season, maybe not necessarily
Speaker 4: so much in the middle.
Speaker 3: But it's honestly, in a way like.
Speaker 4: A participation trophy, like thanks for playing during the regular
Speaker 4: season in this in season tournament.
Speaker 5: Right, because guys don't want to play, right, guys do
Speaker 5: want to maintain their health and the load management aspect
Speaker 5: of it. It's trying to find that balance of playing
Speaker 5: enough basketball where you can be relevant as a superstar player,
Speaker 5: relevant enough to keep your team good enough and being
Speaker 5: contention for the playoffs and being healthy enough to make
Speaker 5: a run when it gets down to crunch time at
Speaker 5: the end of the season and in the playoffs. That's
Speaker 5: what I truly believe is is what the NBA and
Speaker 5: what the NBA players are always trying to figure out,
Speaker 5: and that play in tournament was just one way of saying, Okay,
Speaker 5: instead of waiting until it gets to crunch time at
Speaker 5: the end of the season and you guys start picking
Speaker 5: up your play and playing more, let's create a play
Speaker 5: in tournament so we'll see more of the guys, give
Speaker 5: them incentives, so we'll see more of the guys that
Speaker 5: wouldn't be necessarily playing as much during this duration of
Speaker 5: time due to load management and injury preservation and all
Speaker 5: that stuff, that they're going to actually come out and play.
Speaker 5: I ultimately say, the reason why it's going to be
Speaker 5: difficult for any other sport to ever have any more
Speaker 5: relevance than what it does and catching up to the
Speaker 5: National Football League or even college football at that is
Speaker 5: because of the amount of games, and you guys have
Speaker 5: touched on every point, right, Like the amount of games
Speaker 5: says to me to a sports fan, an average sports fan,
Speaker 5: I'm not getting dowed in to college basketball or the
Speaker 5: NBA until it gets closer to March Madness, until it
Speaker 5: gets closer to the playoffs and then once the playoffs
Speaker 5: get here, and which, for what it's worth, I kind
Speaker 5: of feel that way about the NFL. But at least
Speaker 5: I know that more often than not, you get to
Speaker 5: certain points in the game, they're racing for the divisional crown,
Speaker 5: they're racing for the number one seed. Like those things
Speaker 5: happen early on, early.
Speaker 3: On in the year.
Speaker 5: Get out to a fast start, so so you're you're
Speaker 5: facing you know, injuries or whatever it may be. Mid season,
Speaker 5: you can still have time to try to regroup and
Speaker 5: make it back into a number one seed or make
Speaker 5: it into a wildcard position. The storylines are way more
Speaker 5: intensified because there's less there's less games, there's less opportunities
Speaker 5: for for for failing, for for messing up, for blowing
Speaker 5: it off. You just you're just not going to see
Speaker 5: football players sitting out games. It just doesn't happen. If
Speaker 5: you're sitting out a game, it's not load management unless
Speaker 5: it's you're going into the last game of the year,
Speaker 5: and that's even a debate, and.
Speaker 3: If you do, you get shamed for it.
Speaker 5: Come on, man, I just think that it's just a
Speaker 5: different mentality, it's a different which it's a different way
Speaker 5: of looking at things, and for what it's worth, when
Speaker 5: I look at basketball, you're always going to fight the
Speaker 5: idea of relevance during times where the sport just doesn't
Speaker 5: boast the.
Speaker 3: Level of intensity of needing to win.
Speaker 5: What team right now in the NBA needs to win
Speaker 5: right now, and we're a little ways in now, We're
Speaker 5: in there a little bit. But I'm not looking at
Speaker 5: any of these teams like, oh, this team is at
Speaker 5: five hundred right now, they're in bad shape. Or this
Speaker 5: team is a whole lot of games above five hundred
Speaker 5: and well it's risky for them to be here right now,
Speaker 5: or they're safe and where they're at, no, they're not safe.
Speaker 5: They could slide. They can have a tremendous epic slide
Speaker 5: and end up being in a totally different position by
Speaker 5: the end of the season. So I just think that
Speaker 5: there's just no way of really creating that sense of
Speaker 5: urgency and these other sports because they play so many
Speaker 5: more games.
Speaker 2: The Pelicans have the worst record in the NBA. They're
Speaker 2: five and twenty six and still can make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: They might win a title.
Speaker 2: I know the and the Saints are five and ten,
Speaker 2: so it is good that your football team and your
Speaker 2: basketball game of the same number of wins.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that five loss for the Saints is way
Speaker 5: different than the five wins for you know, or five
Speaker 5: wins for Saints is way different than.
Speaker 3: Those five losses for the Depelicans.
Speaker 5: Could still turn their season round right now, as crazy
Speaker 5: as that sounds, with that that crappy ass record that
Speaker 5: they have, they can in some ways still turn their
Speaker 5: season around.
Speaker 3: It's possible. Yeah, there's a plan, you know, you guy's possible.
Speaker 5: So like you have that record, you have a record
Speaker 5: anywhere comparable to a bad record in football, and you're
Speaker 5: out of it, like you're out of it, and you
Speaker 5: know you're out of it, and your fan base knows
Speaker 5: you're out of it.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup
Speaker 1: in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports
Speaker 1: Radio dot com and with in the iHeartRadio app search
Speaker 1: fs R to listen live.
Speaker 2: Now, what about this, because I'm wondering whether or not
Speaker 2: you guys are going to be the next to UH
Speaker 2: to go online with this. Deshaun Jackson is apparently about
Speaker 2: set or I don't think if it's finalized yet, but
Speaker 2: they are working on a deal to finalize him as
Speaker 2: the brand new head coach at Delaware State.
Speaker 3: So yeah, let's go. Its good. Yeah, this is the
Speaker 3: this is the new friend. I love this, man.
Speaker 4: I love the fact that there's a lot of former
Speaker 4: players who are getting opportunities to coach.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: I mean, look in saying that, that's if the organization,
Speaker 4: whether it be a university, whether it be a professional
Speaker 4: you know, team, they have to give them time. Like
Speaker 4: if you're gonna make that decision to bring in a
Speaker 4: guy who's never been there before, you have to understand
Speaker 4: he's got a completely different perspective. He's he's gonna come at,
Speaker 4: you know, at you from some different angles that you're
Speaker 4: probably not accustomed to.
Speaker 3: Or he's not he's gonna be unaware of a lot of.
Speaker 4: The duties responsibility sometimes so as long as there's patience
Speaker 4: to go along with it. But I love that. I
Speaker 4: love that for DeShawn Jackson, love that for Delaware State.
Speaker 4: Those players. I just I've met so many former players
Speaker 4: that they're in different you know, jobs or careers. At
Speaker 4: this point, I'm thinking, man, they'd be a great coach.
Speaker 4: And I think there's a lot of deterrence to want
Speaker 4: to become a coach sometimes and sometimes it's the track
Speaker 4: to get there, the long hours, to sacrifice everything else.
Speaker 3: That's a part of that.
Speaker 4: And I understand there's a lot of listeners who are like, well,
Speaker 4: should they have to so yeah, to a degree, but
Speaker 4: they also have.
Speaker 3: A PhD in football.
Speaker 4: Shawn Jackson played for a long time, was really successful,
Speaker 4: so it's maybe not in that respect, you know, maybe
Speaker 4: as far from the administrative standpoint, maybe there's something there,
Speaker 4: but I don't know. I love that from Mike Vick
Speaker 4: when I heard the news. I love it for DeShawn Jackson.
Speaker 4: I wish, you know, more universities and schools would take
Speaker 4: on the fact that there's a lot of really smart
Speaker 4: former football players out there that are trying to get
Speaker 4: involved in coaching, impacting young men. And I don't know,
Speaker 4: I just I love hearing that. I love hearing when
Speaker 4: universities take the opportunity to take that risk, obviously because
Speaker 4: there's a risk.
Speaker 3: That comes along with it.
Speaker 4: Sure, but to turn the keys over to a former player,
Speaker 4: I mean, Lavoy, I know you've coached, and everyone's got
Speaker 4: the own reasons for.
Speaker 3: Doing it or not doing it. But like you phoned
Speaker 3: that category.
Speaker 5: Man, I mean, I feel like now we can do
Speaker 5: everything we want to do and still coach.
Speaker 3: So why not think about it?
Speaker 5: Right? We could still do radio and do shows and
Speaker 5: not you know, not have to choose.
Speaker 3: Is that what you're gonna do? Do that three am
Speaker 3: wake up call?
Speaker 5: I mean I'll say this, I'll say this cute we
Speaker 5: do this show and I when I do the show
Speaker 5: out of State College, I am the only one in
Speaker 5: the building. Yeah, I am the only one in the building.
Speaker 5: And midway through our last hours when I start to
Speaker 5: see life come into the building. So if I'm only
Speaker 5: thirty minutes, it's off. You know, I'm just saying I
Speaker 5: got the rest of my day and we could make
Speaker 5: the schedule.
Speaker 3: I mean, let's think about it. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I think you and I should think about this, and
Speaker 5: like I said, we'll make Jonas like ours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's about you. Yeah, I'm roping you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm rope I think you need to be the
Speaker 5: GM and I need to be the coach. That's what
Speaker 5: I think, GM and coach and we'll do it that way.
Speaker 3: What's Jonah's gonna do?
Speaker 5: So Jonas would be the designated because he's he's good
Speaker 5: at this, he's got a background in it. He would
Speaker 5: lead up ticket sales, all right, we put him as
Speaker 5: the person that leads up ticket sales. And and Lee,
Speaker 5: we would have Lee that we'd have Lee head up
Speaker 5: the sanitary you know crew, the sanitation crew that that
Speaker 5: takes care of. No, no, I don't want Lee being involved. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I want Lee to make sure that the bathrooms are
Speaker 5: clean and and like all the locker room.
Speaker 3: Make sure that the locker room.
Speaker 5: Yeah, make sure the locker rooms are clean, all that
Speaker 5: good stuff. But you know, I think that would be
Speaker 5: good if he led that, led that division.
Speaker 3: And then we can we often we out, we on
Speaker 3: the we on the roll.
Speaker 1: We on a roll.
Speaker 3: Now, like, let's go with it. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 5: I did want to coach at the college level at
Speaker 5: one point I thought about I thought about going to
Speaker 5: Arizona State when when Ap left for Arizona State, Like,
Speaker 5: I thought about it. You know, I thought about it
Speaker 5: a couple of times. I thought about going with with
Speaker 5: coach locks at one point in time. So you know,
Speaker 5: I loved coaching. But one thing, I will say one
Speaker 5: thing I will say is if you take coaching seriously,
Speaker 5: there is a lot that goes especially at the college
Speaker 5: and high school level. I don't know so much about
Speaker 5: pro I'm not really privy to it that way, but
Speaker 5: just being a part of it in terms of how
Speaker 5: how I've been a part of, you know, development at
Speaker 5: the college level and at the high school level, there's
Speaker 5: just as much, if not more emotional emotional work that
Speaker 5: you have to put in and be ready for. And
Speaker 5: that generally is round the clock. So if you're you're
Speaker 5: talking about you know, schematics and different things like that
Speaker 5: x's and o's. That was something that I was really
Speaker 5: really like into. It's funny. I was looking at a
Speaker 5: picture of me and Urban doing doing we were drawing
Speaker 5: up plays in the avocado room at FS one, and
Speaker 5: and just that was something that I could do all
Speaker 5: day long, is just listen and interact with a coach
Speaker 5: of his his caliber and us draw up plays and
Speaker 5: and look at like what schematically, what what this does?
Speaker 5: What it means? You know, how does that impact you know, coverage,
Speaker 5: how does this pool this player there, whatever, so on
Speaker 5: and so forth. I really enjoy that as a coach
Speaker 5: and as a player. I just think people eff it
Speaker 5: up all the time. There's two people that eff it up,
Speaker 5: administrators eff it up and parents. Those are the two
Speaker 5: entities as to why I left football. I don't like administrators.
Speaker 5: I think they get in the way. So if you don't,
Speaker 5: if you don't find yourself in a good situation where
Speaker 5: the people that are making decisions aren't aren't supportive, and
Speaker 5: aren't on board with what you want to do, that
Speaker 5: is it's a waste of time and parents and parents
Speaker 5: are probably number one. I hate to say it, but
Speaker 5: parents are number one. I don't like parents. Would you
Speaker 5: rather be an NFL or college coach? Honestly, you have
Speaker 5: more things you have to do at the college level.
Speaker 5: But I would love to be a college coach more
Speaker 5: than a pro coach because I think there's still more
Speaker 5: of a humanistic side to being a coach. And I
Speaker 5: mean it's probably.
Speaker 3: Because because they're still developing. Is that I think so?
Speaker 5: I think so because I'm more I'm more into it
Speaker 5: that way than then it's just cutting dry. This is
Speaker 5: your job, you do it like. I don't like having
Speaker 5: to feel that way.
Speaker 4: I think the other thing that is appealing because of that,
Speaker 4: And I think look, Nil, you know gets the uh
Speaker 4: I don't know, probably the wrong. I don't know if
Speaker 4: it's a connotation to it, but like people think because Nil.
Speaker 3: Has infiltrated college football.
Speaker 4: That like everyone's turned in the pros and all these
Speaker 4: kids are are jerks and it's all about money. Look,
Speaker 4: it probably is for the top, you know, two three percent.
Speaker 4: I mean, the rest of some of these kids, especially
Speaker 4: a big schools, is gonna make money. But there's a
Speaker 4: huge part of them being where they are because of
Speaker 4: things outside of football, like the education, the the alumni,
Speaker 4: the experience, the the networking, the whatever's gonna happen after
Speaker 4: football's done. So I do think that's a cool part
Speaker 4: to hear you say that because the majority, the large
Speaker 4: majority of college football players aren't going pro, right, Like
Speaker 4: I figure out what the exact percentage is, A three
Speaker 4: percent and something like that, but whatever the number is,
Speaker 4: there's a large portion that aren't, and so you are
Speaker 4: coaching into them things that they need to worry about
Speaker 4: as a father, as a dad, as a business owner,
Speaker 4: as an employee, like whatever the case is. It's all
Speaker 4: those lessons that the game teaches you that you're trying
Speaker 4: to share with them. So I get that. That's and
Speaker 4: again that's why I get excited when I see like
Speaker 4: Deshaun Jackson or I see Mike Vig and just from
Speaker 4: knowing Mike a little bit from Fox like man like that,
Speaker 4: that's a guy that has so many life experiences that
Speaker 4: he can share with young people who are still trying
Speaker 4: to figure it out and hopefully, you know, be able
Speaker 4: to get in touch with them in a way that
Speaker 4: leads them down a path where they can avoid some
Speaker 4: of the things. I mean, look as a father now,
Speaker 4: like I've got four kids, I'm already have a fifth
Speaker 4: coming up here, and I can tell you right now,
Speaker 4: my six year old daughter is the type that unfortunately
Speaker 4: she just has to make mistakes like she has.
Speaker 3: She's just I've.
Speaker 4: Tried my best at this point in time of her life,
Speaker 4: and hopefully I can get it out of her. But
Speaker 4: I try to get it to realize, like she doesn't
Speaker 4: need to touch the stove that's hot when Dad tells
Speaker 4: her it's hot, But she's the type that needs to do.
Speaker 3: That because she wants to know how hot does hot mean?
Speaker 5: She wants to trust in what your level because I
Speaker 5: was im That's who I was. It's like, don't touch it,
Speaker 5: it's hot, you'll get burnt. But really, will it burn
Speaker 5: me or would it just burn you?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: Is it hot enough to burn you and not hot
Speaker 5: enough to burn me? Or is this hot?
Speaker 3: Really? Like? Oh yeah, like I touch it? Like that
Speaker 3: is hot? Now I get appreciate it. Now I get
Speaker 3: that for me.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have you just talked to her on speakerphone
Speaker 4: then from now on so I'm gonna call you probably
Speaker 4: five times a day to have to talk my six
Speaker 4: year old off the ledge of whatever decision she's about
Speaker 4: ready to make.
Speaker 3: But the whole point is like, obviously.
Speaker 4: If if whoever it is, you know, former player guys
Speaker 4: like Mike Vic, like DeShawn Jackson, when they can you know,
Speaker 4: speak into these guys' lives like it could be life changing.
Speaker 5: It is life changing. Listen, I'll say this. I just
Speaker 5: sent man man to Penn State yesterday. We just dropped
Speaker 5: him off to go to Penn State and get you know,
Speaker 5: get going with the team yesterday. And that was that
Speaker 5: was an earth moving experience to know that that's what
Speaker 5: he grew up around.
Speaker 3: I've coached, I coached pretty much his.
Speaker 5: Entire life, whether it was under Armour games, whether it
Speaker 5: was doing the under Armour camps, coaching at Long Beach, Polleague,
Speaker 5: coaching at Maranatha, coaching at Charter Oak. I've coached his
Speaker 5: entire life and the one thing that was always important
Speaker 5: was the development, the growth of belief, the development the
Speaker 5: growth of understanding self confidence, self worth, you know, being accountable,
Speaker 5: learning accountability. You know, one thing that you find to
Speaker 5: be very challenging is is that a lot of young
Speaker 5: young men these days don't even understand and what accountability
Speaker 5: really represents, and then what self accountability you know, what
Speaker 5: it truly represents, and just have an opportunity to be
Speaker 5: a part of that growth and that understanding and illuminating moments.
Speaker 5: I think you're one hundred percent right, Que, because I
Speaker 5: think if a guy can't you know, part of me
Speaker 5: getting back in shape into to the audience out there
Speaker 5: that doesn't know this, I was like obtes, I was
Speaker 5: like super fat and fat, my face, fat, my belly,
Speaker 5: just overweight, and I started.
Speaker 3: You always do this, that's so over the top.
Speaker 5: The reason we're not fat, the reason why I went
Speaker 5: back into my legs, Why.
Speaker 8: The reason he's the mom from what Ted Gilbert Crape, Why.
Speaker 3: I'm not that big. We had to burn the house down.
Speaker 3: Was not that big. You were never as big as
Speaker 3: you always.
Speaker 5: Think that big super It was almost three hundred pounds. Man,
Speaker 5: it was almost three hundred pounds. Like I was like
Speaker 5: five ten pounds away from from three hundred. That's big
Speaker 5: as hell. That's like I'm on my way to two
Speaker 5: forty five, two thirty eight.
Speaker 3: So I'm on my way too.
Speaker 5: And and part of the reason why I went on
Speaker 5: that journey to get myself back in shape is because
Speaker 5: I still have great relationships with guys at Penn State
Speaker 5: and guys that are in high school, and I can't
Speaker 5: be walking around them being fat and out of shape
Speaker 5: and not taking care of myself and telling them about
Speaker 5: self accountability and and doing things the right way and
Speaker 5: making sure that you you handle you know your your
Speaker 5: health and your nutrition. It's like they're looking at me
Speaker 5: like you're not doing it. You don't do it. And
Speaker 5: that was a lot and on God, that is a
Speaker 5: large part, a large reason. And thanks to PhD weight
Speaker 5: loss doctor. By the way I took that journey, I
Speaker 5: knew this was coming. I took that journey.
Speaker 3: A lee.
Speaker 8: There's your life spot man.
Speaker 3: You're saful. This was going. It's the truth though. I mean,
Speaker 3: you do look great. Thank you, yeah, thank you. Go
Speaker 3: shoot me too, all right, thank you,