1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: podcast network. This is the place to be if you're 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: ready for the best podcasts of the paranormal, curious. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: And sometimes unexplained. Now listen to this. 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 3: The thoughts and opinions expressed by the host are thoughts 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: and opinions only and do not necessarily reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 3: Coast to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: sponsors and associates. 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 4: You are encouraged to do the proper amount of research yourself, 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 4: depending on the subject matter and your needs. 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: Hi. 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 5: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 5: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 5: On each episode, we'll discuss the reason and we now 15 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 5: know that our loved ones have survived physical death, and 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 5: so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Imagine 17 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 5: that you're sitting in your favorite coffee place. You've got 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 5: a friend that you're going to meet in a little while. 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 5: You've never heard of me, Sander Champlain, and you're looking 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 5: at the television in the coffee shop. I'm sitting next 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 5: to you, just reading a paper and suddenly someone comes 22 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 5: on the news talking about life after death. Our eyes 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 5: meet and you tell me I would really love to 24 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 5: believe that's true. Well, sitting next to Sander Champlain, I 25 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 5: tend to speak up, even if inside I'm nervous or afraid. 26 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 5: So I would ask you, would it be okay if 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 5: I shared a little bit of my experience and you 28 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 5: tell me, well, I've got a friend meeting me here 29 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 5: in about ten minutes, so I would love to hear. 30 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 5: My uncle just passed away last week, and I've really 31 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 5: been looking is there evidence of the afterlife? And I 32 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 5: sure feel lousy because he's died. And I say, okay, 33 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 5: we've got ten minutes together. Do you mind if I 34 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 5: just go for it? And you say go for it? Well, first, 35 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 5: my name is Sandra. It's really nice to meet you. 36 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 5: I am the host of a podcast called Shades of 37 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 5: the Afterlife, with now over one hundred and forty episodes. 38 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 5: I wasn't always this person, believe it or not. About 39 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 5: twenty five years ago, I went through a huge fear 40 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 5: of dying that led me on a massive discovery to 41 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 5: see if there's any proof. I was never going to 42 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 5: tell anybody about what I found. I just needed to 43 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 5: rest my mind. There's a lot obviously I can't tell 44 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 5: you in this ten minutes, but with the information that 45 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 5: I found, and also some information about grief, so I 46 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 5: think I can help as far as your uncle's passing goes. 47 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 5: I wrote a book called We Don't Die, a skeptics 48 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 5: discovery of life after death, about ten years ago, and 49 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 5: so even though I don't have a copy with me, 50 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 5: I can tell you that my website is we Don't 51 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 5: Die dot com and if you scroll to the bottom 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 5: and put in your email address, up will pop a 53 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 5: box and it says there's only the first few chapters 54 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 5: of my book. But the truth is the entire book 55 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 5: is there. Chapter ten is how to Survive Grief. And 56 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 5: like I said, I know that would make a difference 57 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 5: about your uncle. But since I wrote the book, I 58 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 5: have gone on to research a whole bunch of stuff. 59 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 5: So I know it's hard to believe in the afterlife. 60 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 5: But my friend, let me just take a second and 61 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 5: point to your cell phone that's sitting there. Isn't it 62 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 5: awesome to think that that phone can communicate with people 63 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 5: all over the world, and then also through the Internet, 64 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 5: you can get any bit of information about just about anything. 65 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 5: So it is possible for things to connect without being 66 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 5: plugged in. And I say, it's possible to connect with 67 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 5: our loved ones even though they're no longer alive. That 68 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 5: we all possess this faculty kind of like our phones 69 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 5: do to connect. And while we're talking about cell phones 70 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 5: pretty wild, there are other things that are equally as 71 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 5: mind blowing, like, if you think about it, we live 72 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 5: in this ever expanding universe, and also the fact that 73 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 5: if you study anything in the quantum level down to 74 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 5: every atom that makes us up, all we are is 75 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 5: vibrating energy. One of the things that I faced being 76 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 5: an afterlife researcher is I was so skeptical, but then 77 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 5: I realized that we all have this mind that is 78 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 5: not our best champion. We wake up in the morning 79 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 5: and often it says negative things about us. It doesn't 80 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 5: tell us we can do anything. We're so powerful. So 81 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 5: I personally think, my friend, that we human beings don't 82 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 5: remember who we are because we have this voice. I 83 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 5: won't go through the big stuff that I have in 84 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 5: my book because I know you're going to read it, 85 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 5: but basically, a couple of the things that really struck 86 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 5: me as reasons to believe was one. I took a 87 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 5: course in mediumship, you know, talking to people that are dead. 88 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 5: I didn't think it was real, and I took this 89 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 5: course just to convince myself, is this a real thing 90 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 5: or is this all fake? And out of my own head, 91 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 5: I was able to accurately tell somebody about their loved one, 92 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 5: and not just general. I knew that this lady's grandfather's 93 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: name was Yon, that he was a fisherman in Denmark, 94 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 5: that he died from lung cancer, and even specifically that 95 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 5: he never told his own daughter that he loved her. 96 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 5: And so I thought I was making this all up, 97 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 5: and in fact I was giving her details about her 98 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 5: loved one. So over the past, I don't know, fifteen 99 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 5: years or so now, I've dabbled in medium readings. I 100 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 5: don't do it professionally because it does work through our 101 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: imagination and I am wrong a lot of times. But 102 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 5: I do know that it is real because I've had 103 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 5: plenty of opportunities to witness it. Since COVID hit, there 104 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 5: was so much grief in the world, and some friends 105 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 5: of mine and I got together and we started doing 106 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 5: a free Sunday service on zoom. You might be interested 107 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 5: in coming sometime. It's called the Sunday Gathering and it's 108 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 5: filled with inspiration. But also at the end there's a 109 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 5: medium demonstration so you can see what I'm talking about, 110 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 5: just how close our loved ones really are to us. 111 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 5: Something I think you'll find interesting right now is there's 112 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 5: a doctor. He's a hospice doctor called Christopher Kerr, and 113 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 5: he has researched over seventeen hundred people who have passed 114 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 5: in hospice. And you've probably heard that people just before 115 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: they pass can see a loved one or reach out 116 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 5: into space like they're reaching for someone. Even Steve Jobs, 117 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 5: remember him who created Apple. The last thing he said 118 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 5: was oh wow, oh wow, oh wow, with a smile 119 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 5: on his face, just before he passed. Well, doctor Christopher 120 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 5: Kerr has seen that not only people just before they 121 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 5: die have these visions, but it can be a month 122 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 5: to six weeks before they pass. And they're more than visions. 123 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 5: They call them dreams, but they occur to the person 124 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 5: just as real as you and I sitting here having coffee. 125 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 5: People are young, people are healthy, and most times they 126 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 5: tell them they're going on a trip. So I find 127 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 5: it so comforting that our loved ones help us when 128 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: it's our time to go. Not too long ago, my 129 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 5: former boyfriend passed away, and although it's been a couple 130 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 5: of years since we spoke, I was really shocked. Two 131 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 5: great things happened. One is I have some friends that 132 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 5: are mediums. Nobody knew of my relationship with this gentleman. 133 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 5: It was not posted on social media, and through a 134 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 5: friend's mouth, she must have given me forty bits of 135 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 5: details about things that I had done with this fella together, 136 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 5: and it felt like he was whispering in her ear, 137 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 5: things so specific, like I helped him write two books, 138 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 5: and how every time we went on a date, we'd 139 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: just sit at the bar and niver at a table. Also, 140 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 5: there's a researcher in Brazil named Sonya Andaldi, who I'm 141 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 5: lucky to be friends with now. But for well over 142 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 5: thirty years she was working with parents in capturing voices 143 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 5: of children in the afterlife using something called electronic voice Phenomena. 144 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 5: In the past five or six years, she's been working 145 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 5: with images and videos, filming things like steam or static 146 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 5: and pictures of people's loved ones appear when she goes 147 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 5: through frame by frame in her recordings, and my fella 148 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 5: that I was telling you about has come through in 149 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 5: several images, almost looking three dimensional, so I know he's around. 150 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 5: I know we just have a few minutes before your 151 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 5: friend comes. But I also want to tell you. You've 152 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 5: heard of near death experiences, right, people who are brought 153 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 5: back from the dead. There are so many similar stories, 154 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 5: and many of them people see their loved ones. Something 155 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 5: that I find so fantastic is the research of Ken Ring, 156 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 5: who not only studied these near death experiences, but he 157 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 5: studied near death experiences of people that were blind. Never 158 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 5: before had they had vision, and in that state they 159 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: could see again. Some people actually saw loved ones. People 160 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 5: saw loved ones that they didn't know were dead, and 161 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 5: they actually were. Some people not only hovered over their body, 162 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 5: but they were able to leave the hospital. One woman 163 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 5: saw a single red shoe sitting on the rooftop of 164 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 5: the hospital, and somebody checked and sure enough it was there. 165 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 5: Another woman, when she was dead, she floated outside of 166 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 5: her body and into the next room. She saw her 167 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 5: husband talking to the doctor. Doctor dropped a pen. The 168 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 5: man picked it up, noticed the doctor had two different 169 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 5: colored socks, and that was true. I think one of 170 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 5: the things that really sealed it for me way back 171 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 5: when with the reality of the afterlife is that I 172 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 5: found out how to do these recordings, this electronic voice phenomena. 173 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 5: And as creepy and crazy as this may sound, I 174 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 5: had gone to a retreat center and studied with these 175 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 5: folks named Tom and Lisa Butler, who taught just how 176 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 5: close our loved ones are and that they can actually 177 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 5: manipulate inside of a digital tape recorder a regular tape 178 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 5: recorder where probably our iPhones would work. So what we 179 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 5: did is we would record sounds of stat or the 180 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 5: wind blowing, or water on or in my case, I 181 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 5: recorded rain drops. And if you can picture this, me 182 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 5: sitting in a cabin alone, really believing at this point 183 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 5: that the afterlife was real from everything else I learned, 184 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 5: I held out my digital tape recorder and just said 185 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 5: to my aunt, my uncle and two grandparents who I 186 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 5: imagined were in that cabin with me, and I just said, Hey, 187 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 5: if you guys are real and I'm meant to help 188 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 5: people believe in the afterlife, I need you to try 189 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 5: to talk loud into this thing and then I'll say goodnight. 190 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 5: So I left this tape recorder out in my hands 191 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 5: for just a minute, recorded the sound of rain drops, 192 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 5: and then I said good night. I played it back, 193 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 5: and when I did, my body was filled with goosebumps. 194 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 5: There around second number four forty six on the machine, 195 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 5: I hear good night, Sandra, and then two women whisper 196 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 5: good night, good night, and then a male's voice says 197 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 5: good night. I can tell you that really took me 198 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 5: from a believing to knowing. I know your friend is 199 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 5: going to be here in just a few minutes, so 200 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 5: I'll let you finish your coffee, and at that point 201 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 5: you tell me my friend just texted she won't be 202 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 5: here for another forty five minutes. Sandra. We have time 203 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 5: to talk more about this, so let's go to the 204 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 5: break and I'll tell you more. Let's get a refill 205 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 5: of coffee and maybe one of those pumpkin muffins. You're 206 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 5: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and 207 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 5: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 208 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: Keep it here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 209 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Sanders Champlain will be right back. 210 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 6: The Coast to Coast AM mobile app is here and 211 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 6: waiting for you right now. 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Keep it here on the iHeartRadio on 222 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 223 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 5: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain 224 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 5: and I'm having you pretend that we are meeting for 225 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 5: the very first time at a coffee shop. You just 226 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 5: lost your uncle and you're interested in what I know 227 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 5: about the afterlife. You just finished telling me that your 228 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 5: friend texted you, and you have almost an hour to 229 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 5: wait for them, so you have plenty of time to 230 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 5: hear more. Next, you say, I really want to hear more, 231 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 5: Sandra about what you know. But I feel really lousy 232 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 5: and I'm sad all the time. This was my favorite uncle, 233 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 5: and I miss him, and I sure would like to 234 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 5: know that he's still around, so I continue. I told 235 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 5: you earlier that you can have a copy of my book, 236 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 5: and I'd be happy to even send you one, but 237 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 5: I really want you to check out that chapter ten 238 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 5: about grief. We're never taught about grief ever, very few 239 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 5: people go to research it. But when my dad died, 240 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 5: I hit an all time low, really being depressed, and 241 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 5: I had fights with my siblings and we were one 242 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 5: of those families that you hear about. It was just awful. 243 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 5: And after he passed, I went looking for, yes, more 244 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 5: reasons to believe in the afterlife? What would make good 245 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 5: people turn into these crazy monsters around grief? And I 246 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 5: found some things that nobody knows about. First of all, 247 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 5: we grieve because we love. It's natural, it's normal, and 248 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 5: it is probably the most painful thing we go through. 249 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 5: So I'm going to ask you just be gentle on yourself. Okay, 250 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 5: this may sound a little bit crude, but if you 251 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 5: could imagine somebody who is addicted to some kind of 252 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 5: drug and they get it taken away, they go through withdrawal, Right, 253 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 5: this is the same thing that happens with us humans. 254 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 5: When we love or are really connected to something, say 255 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 5: in a relationship with someone or a job that we've 256 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 5: had forever, and it gets taken away, we go through 257 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 5: this grieving process. So it's actually a change in chemistry 258 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 5: going on in our brains. You know how cars use 259 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 5: all kinds of fluids to run, like oil and gasoline, power, 260 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 5: steering fluid and all that. Yeah, right, Well, we run 261 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 5: on these things called neurotransmitters. And what people don't know 262 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 5: is when we grieve, these neurotransmitters are depleted. So these 263 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 5: neurotransmitters control things like our mood, our memory. So we 264 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 5: can often get angry, we can often feel a lot 265 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 5: of guilt, we can cry a lot. It's an awful 266 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 5: place to be. So again, I'm just asking you to 267 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 5: be gentle with yourself. There are some things you can 268 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 5: do to help make yourself feel better, some obvious ones there. 269 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 5: Try to eat right, exercise, get some sunshine. But more 270 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 5: than that, we need moments of peace in our brain 271 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 5: so that these healthy neurotransmitters can build back up again. 272 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: I wish I could tell you there was a fast 273 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 5: way to the other side of grief, but the truth 274 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 5: is we've got to go right through it as human beings. 275 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 5: But what I can tell you and I will tell 276 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 5: you more about the afterlife, is if you start believing 277 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 5: that your uncle is still around and he's still a 278 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 5: part of your life, it will make a difference. You 279 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 5: can still talk to him, There'll be signs that he 280 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 5: may give that he's still around that will certainly help 281 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 5: you feel better. Do practices like journaling, getting your thoughts 282 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 5: and feelings out of your head and down on paper 283 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 5: or in your computer, Talk to friends, Do things that 284 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 5: normally would make you feel happy. If you like to read, 285 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 5: or you like to watch movies, or you like to 286 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 5: listen to music. Play some music from when you were 287 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 5: in high school. There's something about music that can just 288 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 5: trigger you back to another time. If you can meditate, 289 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 5: or just slow down and try to pay attention to 290 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 5: your breath, or if you go out for a walk, 291 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 5: try to put that mind aside, the one that's talking 292 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 5: all the time, and just be present to everything that 293 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 5: you're seeing. These are little things they are, but put together, 294 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 5: they can really help build up these neurotransmitters to make 295 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 5: you feel better. So that's enough about grief. Be gentle 296 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 5: on yourself, be gentle on other people. They don't know 297 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 5: they're going through this, and they can be kind of rough. 298 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 5: Let's get back to some afterlife talk. Okay. What I 299 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 5: know about the dying process is this. And you may 300 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 5: tell me your uncle passed with cancer, and I'll tell 301 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 5: you my dad passed with cancer and it was not easy. 302 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 5: I saw him suffer up to his very last breath, 303 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 5: and it was painful to watch. It is said by 304 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 5: many that our soul departs our body before our bodies die, 305 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 5: that the actual dying process is easy. Nobody wants the pain. 306 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 5: I agree with you one hundred percent on that, But 307 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 5: the actual process is easy. It is as if we 308 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 5: close our eyes and we open them to a place 309 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 5: that looks very similar to what we know here on earth, 310 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 5: except for you're going to see people and your pets 311 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 5: that you haven't seen in a long time. So yes, 312 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 5: even our pets go there. Any critters that you've loved, 313 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 5: and of course people that you loved will be there. 314 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 5: It is said through people that have had these near 315 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 5: death experiences in other mediums that it's like crossing a 316 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 5: finish line to life. Could you imagine running crossing that 317 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 5: finish line and having a standing ovation of people just 318 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 5: cheering you on. That's what it's like. But then when 319 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 5: you look at your body. I don't know how old 320 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 5: you are, but I currently am fifty seven years old. 321 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 5: But crossing that finish line, we get to pick our 322 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 5: perfect age and our perfect bodies. So your uncle is healthy, 323 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 5: whole and well. Any pain he suffered before he departed Earth, 324 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 5: he no longer feels, and he no longer remembers. We 325 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 5: remember how we went, but all that emotion is no 326 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 5: longer with us. So no pain, no suffering, and he's 327 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 5: very much alive. We're going to find it very hard 328 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 5: to believe that we are still us. We have bodies, 329 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 5: we have minds, but we don't communicate like we do 330 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 5: here on Earth. We can communicate hate telepathically. I think 331 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 5: that's pretty cool, and I actually think we have that 332 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 5: ability right here while we're on Earth, but not many 333 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 5: of us make use of it. You've heard of a 334 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 5: life review. Well, I've interviewed a ton of people who 335 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 5: have had these near death experiences, and most say there 336 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 5: is a life review. Now, it's not one where Heaven 337 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 5: for you, hell for you. In fact, I don't believe 338 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: in hell if I can say that right here on earth, 339 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 5: I think is the hardest part of our journey, but 340 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 5: our soul actually gets to relive our lives and gets 341 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 5: to look to see where it grew, where it maybe 342 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 5: could have made a difference and made different choices. What's 343 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 5: interesting is that people who have these life reviews say 344 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 5: they experience them from another person's perspective. So if you 345 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 5: said something mean to someone, you'll actually feel how you 346 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 5: made them feel. And then there's a flip side to it. 347 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 5: After you go through and have this life review and 348 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 5: see the impact you had on people, you get to 349 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 5: see the ripple effect you had on people. So this 350 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 5: is the time where you get to see the good 351 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 5: deeds that you did and what people did after you 352 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 5: had had that interaction with them. So I think that's 353 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 5: exciting to look forward to once there in the afterlife, 354 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 5: which I kind of liked the term hereafter because I 355 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 5: don't think they go up to heaven. I think we 356 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 5: live in This may sound strange, the afterlife right now, 357 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 5: in the hereafter. In fact, through science, it's proven that 358 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 5: two or a lot more of forms of energy can 359 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 5: coexist in the exact same place, So we are energetic beings. 360 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 5: The TV is on over there, there's radios going on, 361 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 5: people are using their GPS signals. There's all kinds of 362 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 5: invisible energy happening around us right now. And I say 363 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 5: the afterlife is right here hereafter. I like that term 364 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 5: because our loved ones are interacting in a world within 365 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 5: a world. I actually think we're a part of their world, 366 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 5: and there's something so much bigger for all of us 367 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 5: to explore once we get there. Because that explains mediums. 368 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 5: If you've ever seen a medium working, and you'll notice 369 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: that they are in communication with loved ones right away. 370 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 5: I think our loved ones can be right here with us, 371 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 5: and then they if you're talking to a medium on 372 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 5: zoom or on the phone, they can easily just pop 373 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 5: right in wherever. They are pretty magical beings we are 374 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 5: when we migrate to the other side. While we're over there, 375 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 5: it's great. We can learn anything we want to learn. 376 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 5: They say they're these places called the Halls of Learning, 377 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 5: that we can actually go back in time. If your favorite. 378 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 7: TV show is eighteen eighty three and you love the 379 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 7: look of the land back, then you can actually transport 380 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 7: yourself back and have these really virtual experiences. 381 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 5: All opportunities for us to learn and to grow. I 382 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 5: have a secret dream of becoming a singer, but I 383 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 5: don't know if I'll do that while I'm on planet Earth. 384 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 5: But maybe you'll see me in a concert when I 385 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 5: go over to the afterlife. Death is nothing to be feared. 386 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 5: And one of the reasons I'm glad we can talk 387 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 5: more about this is it's about how we live life powerfully. Now. 388 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 5: Most people are afraid of dying. And I hate to 389 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 5: say this, but we even have more of a fear 390 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 5: of living. People do you know that really go after 391 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 5: their dreams and they're not stopped by failures? Very few? 392 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 5: How many people listen to the little voice in their 393 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 5: head that says you're not good enough, you're not smart enough, 394 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 5: and they don't go after their dreams. I think most 395 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 5: of us do that to a certain extent. So if 396 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 5: we can really embrace the reality of the afterlife and 397 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 5: that we don't die, we can have a really good 398 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 5: life while we're here. So I know you have got 399 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 5: some more time, but I need to take a quick 400 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 5: break and then we'll come back and I'll tell you 401 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 5: some more reasons to believe in the afterlife. Okay, all right, 402 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 5: We're going to freshen up our cup of coffee and 403 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 5: we'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the 404 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 5: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 405 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 5: Podcast Network. 406 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere. There's more Shades of the Afterlife coming 407 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 4: right up. 408 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: Hey, the Coast to Coast a YouTube channel to Coast 409 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: to COASTAM dot com for more information. 410 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, it's the Wizard of Weird Joshua P. Warren, 411 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: and you're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 412 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 413 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 5: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, 414 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 5: and I'm having you imagine that we are brand new 415 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 5: friends meeting at a coffee place, and I am telling 416 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 5: you what I know about the afterlife. We don't have 417 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 5: much time together, so I am trying to get as 418 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 5: much in in a short time as possible. You tell 419 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 5: me that you're absolutely fascinated by all of this, and 420 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 5: you tell me that you too have had experiences that 421 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 5: you can't explain. That you've known things about people, or 422 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 5: you know that the phone was going to ring and 423 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 5: it did and it's exactly the same person you thought 424 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 5: it would be, or that you and a friend say 425 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 5: the same thing at the same time, wondering if you 426 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 5: are connected on the same channel somehow. You've also seen 427 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 5: some signs and you think is this my imagination or 428 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 5: could this be from a loved one? So you ask 429 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 5: me to tell you more, and I am happy to 430 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 5: do that. Yes, I have about one hundred and forty 431 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 5: episodes of this show called Shades of the Afterlife, and 432 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 5: I am so excited about it because I can share 433 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 5: different reasons to believe. So go to your favorite podcast channel, 434 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 5: look up Shades of the Afterlife Sandra Champlain, and you'll 435 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 5: find out more about me. But you're asking about different 436 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 5: reasons to believe. I have been on this journey now 437 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 5: for I think it's twenty six years looking for good 438 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 5: reasons to believe. Yes, there are such things as signs 439 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 5: from loved ones. There are things like being at a 440 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 5: stoplight and the car right in front of you has 441 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 5: the name of your loved one, even you can smell 442 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 5: their cologne even though they're long gone, or the smell 443 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 5: of somebody's pipe, or if your mother like to bake 444 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 5: apple pie and she put extra cinnamon in it and 445 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 5: all of a sudden you kind of smell of that. 446 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 5: Those are some signs that they're still around. Sometimes you 447 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 5: may hear their voice. Other times you may feel their touch, 448 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 5: you may feel that they are around. We do have 449 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 5: what's called an etheric body. So, like I said, when 450 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 5: we migrate to the other side, we still have a body. Well, 451 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 5: it's possible that they can alter the energy around us. 452 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 5: You've heard of lights flashing on and off. And there 453 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 5: are some people that have told me some great things. 454 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 5: One gentleman, his child had died only at three years old, 455 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 5: and of course he was grieving. He knew nothing about me, 456 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 5: He knew nothing about after life. He wasn't looking for it. 457 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 5: And he held up his phone and he asked Siri 458 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 5: to play some news. Siri ended up putting on an 459 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 5: episode of my podcast, and it opened his mind up 460 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 5: to there's something more. So I'm thrilled that it did 461 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 5: make a difference. Another time, a woman walked into her 462 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 5: house after her son had passed. Her television was off 463 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 5: when she left the house she lived alone. When she 464 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 5: walked back in, not only was the television on, but 465 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 5: it was a smart TV, so it had YouTube playing 466 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 5: and it had one of my Sunday gatherings that had 467 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 5: the medium demonstration. So I think our loved ones can 468 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 5: manipulate things to get our attention that they're still around. 469 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 5: Here's something I think you'll find interesting. There's something called 470 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 5: induced after death communication. Might sound a little weird and 471 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 5: a little scary, but it doesn't hurt. These are for 472 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 5: people that are deeply grieving. There are therapists that are 473 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 5: trained in this that can put people in a state 474 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 5: different than hypnosis, but can put them in a state 475 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 5: where they can actually reconnect with their loved one. Doctor 476 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 5: Alan Botkin actually found out about this by mistake. There's 477 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 5: something called em DR that is you with veterans who 478 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 5: have served who suffer from post traumatic stress disorder PTSD, 479 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 5: and so it's a series of left right, left right 480 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 5: eye movements that the person does while remembering the experience 481 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 5: that's causing them so much pain, and something happens to 482 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 5: dislodge the memory from the emotion. So it's proven to 483 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 5: be very effective at helping people with PTSD. Well, he 484 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 5: gave some people a little too much left right, left 485 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 5: right eye movements and it transported them to a place 486 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 5: where they could connect with loved ones. And while he 487 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 5: never believed in the afterlife in the beginning. Eventually he 488 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 5: would practice this on other people, given them just a 489 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 5: little too much, and it worked with people. People could 490 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 5: actually see doctor Botkins's own deceased loved ones and give 491 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 5: him evidence that they were still around. So now there 492 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 5: are some special therapists around the world that do this. IADC. 493 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 5: So that's pretty great. I don't know if you're interested, 494 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 5: but there's some really weird stuff I can tell you. 495 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 5: Oh you say, bring it on? Well, okay, those folks 496 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 5: that I told you about at the beginning who told 497 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 5: me about the electronic voice phenomena catching the voices of 498 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 5: people in the afterlife on tape recorders, they kept telling 499 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 5: me about something called physical mediumship, and this blew my 500 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 5: mind and I actually thought, you know, things that sound 501 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 5: too good to be true. Actually are I hesitate to 502 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 5: tell you this story because even my own ego is saying, 503 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, my friend is going to think I'm 504 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 5: crazy with this. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, though, 505 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 5: listen to what I have to say. I ended up 506 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 5: flying from Boston Airport, which is the closest big airport 507 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 5: to me, over to London, Heathrow and then taking a 508 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 5: cab ride for another hour and a half to go 509 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 5: to a place called Banyon Retreat, and there they put 510 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 5: on events like the one I went to called Voices 511 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 5: from the Past, not only having experience practicing evidential mediumship, 512 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 5: so they had a medium there teaching that, but also 513 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 5: we learned about things called trance mediumship and physical mediumship. 514 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 5: Trance mediumship is where a medium practices quieting their mind 515 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 5: so much and obviously through love and prayer and working 516 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 5: with their own soul. Invites people because we each have 517 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 5: a spirit team, but invites a member of their spirit 518 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 5: team to actually speak through them. And I know that 519 00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 5: sounds crazy. However, I witnessed a young man named Gott 520 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 5: Milligan with his eyes closed. He listened to a few 521 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 5: pieces of music just to relax him. And he's a lighthearted, 522 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 5: likable guy. But out of his mouth this deep voice 523 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 5: of someone saying that their name is Eric, that they 524 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 5: lived and died in the eighteen hundreds, and this fellow 525 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 5: went on to deliver so many words of inspiration and 526 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 5: talking about the meaning of life, what happens when we die. 527 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 5: And then it was crazy because we could ask this 528 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 5: fellow questions, and so I did ask a question about 529 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 5: do we suffer when we die? And that's when I 530 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 5: heard for the very first time that we do not. 531 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 5: And then we also don't bring memories of suffering with 532 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 5: us from life. What was also interesting is I asked 533 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 5: the reason for suffering. One of the explanations that I 534 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 5: got was it's part of being here on earth that 535 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 5: there are opposites to everything. There's pain, there's joy, there's light, 536 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 5: there's dark, and while we're here, our soul needs these 537 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 5: polar opposites so that we can experience, so that we 538 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 5: can learn, so that we can grow. And I really 539 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 5: understand that because I think you probably feel the same 540 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 5: way if you're looking back on your life. You needed 541 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 5: the tough times for you to learn and grow, and 542 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 5: look where you are now. If things just came easy 543 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 5: for us, I don't think there would be a purpose 544 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 5: of life. And I know people that are very wealthy. 545 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 5: I know people that were born into wealth, and I 546 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 5: have to be honest with you. Although some are good people, 547 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 5: they don't know what it's like to work hard. There's 548 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 5: another guy that I had met who made a lot 549 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 5: of money in his life, but he started from scratch 550 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 5: and he never stopped working since he was a little boy. 551 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 5: He was as normal, humble and down to earth as 552 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 5: they came. But I realized we can gain a whole 553 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 5: bunch of information and experiences through our life. So I 554 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 5: think that's why we're here. Do we suffer here on earth? Absolutely? 555 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 5: Do we suffer in the afterlife? No, we don't. In fact, 556 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 5: you may be interested in this that guy I was 557 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 5: telling you about, Scott Milligan, that I met over at 558 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 5: that retreat center. Every Friday, or almost every Friday, for 559 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 5: the past three years, we've been meeting on zoom and 560 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 5: he leads us through something similar to a meditation, but 561 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 5: we sit for healing, to give and receive healing, and 562 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 5: then at some point his voice goes quiet, and the 563 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 5: voice of this very special friend named Ericas. And so 564 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 5: people whoever wants to join us in our Zoom room, 565 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 5: whether they come for free or they leave a donation, 566 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 5: they can ask questions. And over the past three years, 567 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 5: now going into our fourth year, I have almost two 568 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 5: hundred hours of these extraordinary conversations. And is it easy 569 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 5: for the mind to say, could this guy just be 570 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 5: putting this on? It's easy to ask that, but I think, 571 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 5: once you know somebody well enough, you know what's true. 572 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 5: And I challenge anyone, I really do. Can you speak 573 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 5: a sentence without hesitating, without an umb or a break? 574 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 5: I don't think so. And this fellow Eric is as 575 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 5: smooth as they come. But not only that, can answer 576 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 5: questions about life and death in the afterlife and provide 577 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 5: so much comfort and joy. Really incredible. So if you're 578 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 5: free sometime, come with me on the on the Fridays. Yep, 579 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 5: it's time for us to freshen up our coffees again. 580 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 5: And I know you've got to leave in a few minutes, 581 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 5: so why don't we get another cup of coffee and 582 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 5: then we can spend a few more minutes together and 583 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 5: I'll tell you some more really great things about life 584 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 5: and the afterlife. How does that sound? Let me tell 585 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 5: you one of my favorite quotes, don't be dismayed bye goodbyes. 586 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 5: A farewell is necessary before meeting again, and meeting again 587 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 5: after moments or lifetimes is certain for those who are friends. 588 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 5: It gives me so much comfort to know that people 589 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 5: we think we've lost they're right by our side and 590 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 5: we will see them again. And then I can promise 591 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 5: you let's go to the break. 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Being new friends meeting for the 611 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 5: first time. I would most definitely give you my phone number. 612 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 5: Tell you my email address is Sandra Champlain at gmail 613 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 5: dot com. Tell you again. Website is we Don't Die 614 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 5: dot com. At the bottom of the page into your 615 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 5: email address, it says, there's only the first few chapters 616 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 5: of my book. The secret is it's the entire book, 617 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 5: is there. I would encourage you to come visit me 618 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 5: on one of our Sunday gatherings, And if you're really 619 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 5: somebody who wants to exercise the power of your soul, 620 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 5: I would tell you to come visit us on one 621 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 5: of our medium classes. You learn how souls communicate through 622 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 5: our emotions, through our feelings, through pictures in our mind, 623 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 5: through hearing, and then you get to practice on people. 624 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 5: It is incredible to be able to experience feeling the 625 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 5: love as if you were the deceased person, and being 626 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 5: able to share memories, even if they're not your own, 627 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 5: with someone and having them say, yeah, that's my loved one. 628 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 5: So I would encourage you to do that. But let 629 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 5: me tell you about some of the other reasons I believe, 630 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 5: and just some of the other things that are out there. 631 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 5: You've heard of hospice, right, I think they're the best 632 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 5: organization for anyone who's passing, loving, caring human beings that 633 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 5: either come to you in your home or you can 634 00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 5: stay at a hospice center. They can handle medicaires and 635 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 5: people not only die with dignity, but it's like bring 636 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 5: on the party. The love is there. It's just a wonderful, 637 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 5: wonderful place. There are hospice doctors and nurses and volunteers 638 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 5: that all experience some really beautiful things as people pass. 639 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 5: Like I told you in the beginning of doctor Christopher 640 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 5: Kerr and you can check out his movie Death Is 641 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 5: But a Dream dot com and you can check out 642 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 5: his book Death Is But a Dream. Anyways, They just 643 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 5: tell tons and tons of stories about people before they 644 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 5: pass and who is there with them. You know. I 645 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 5: found out that people have been researching the afterlife forever. 646 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 5: But there are some scientists, lots of them actually, and 647 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 5: even people like you've heard of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 648 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 5: that wrote the Sherlock Holmes Mysteries. You may not know 649 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 5: that he gave up writing Sherlock Holmes when he experienced 650 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 5: some these amazing things about the afterlife, and so he 651 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 5: spent his life helping people believe. I think it's just amazing. 652 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 5: Some mediums have the gift of also being an artist. 653 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 5: So out there there are people that are called spirit 654 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 5: artists who not only give you a verbal reading telling 655 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 5: you that your loved one is around, but they draw 656 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 5: a picture of them. There are people like this Sonya 657 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 5: Andaldi in Brazil who are capturing just tons of images 658 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 5: of working with loved ones. She has never charged a 659 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 5: penny for this, and not that people shouldn't make money, 660 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 5: because I do. I think people should make money so 661 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 5: that they can pay their bills. But this lady does not. 662 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,479 Speaker 5: She does work on some donations, but she continuously every 663 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 5: day of the week, is doing these experiments. There's a 664 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 5: group of people working on what's called the soul phone, 665 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 5: And wouldn't that be something cool that we could hold 666 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 5: in our own hands like our cell phone, but we 667 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 5: can talk to our loved ones. How far along are 668 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 5: they Well, they are working with a contraption that can 669 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 5: actually pick up energy from the hereafter, so people that 670 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 5: they've experimented with can ask loved ones yes, no questions. 671 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 5: And somehow these people with their etheric bodies can jump 672 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 5: in and this detector can actually tell if it's a 673 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 5: yes or no answer. There are people investigating the afterlife 674 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 5: that you wouldn't think that there would be. There's a 675 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 5: former Navy commander who's retired who is a medium. There 676 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 5: is a physicist, engineer, artists, mathematicians, scientists, people who have 677 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 5: trained in being mediums. We tend to think that science 678 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 5: doesn't believe in the afterlife, but there's a lot of 679 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 5: scientists doctors who are out there exploring. Here's something. It's 680 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 5: not about the afterlife, but it just shows you kind 681 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 5: of how powerful we are as human beings. One of 682 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 5: my episodes from a couple of years ago, on Shades 683 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 5: of the Afterlife, I spoke with a woman named Nicola 684 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 5: Farmer who totally believes in life after death. Yes, but 685 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 5: she works with children because if you can imagine, we 686 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 5: human beings are souls coming into this human life and 687 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 5: at a very early age, a lot of kids remember 688 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 5: being in heaven or being in the hereafter or here before, 689 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 5: I guess you would call it. But something happens, our 690 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 5: ego starts and we start buying into this. We're not 691 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 5: good enough, we're not smart enough. Well, this lady has 692 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 5: worked with children to really explore their psychic nature and 693 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 5: with children being blindfolded, they have accurately been able to 694 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,720 Speaker 5: play catch with a ball. They've been able to work 695 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 5: drawing and putting bracelets together with beads with these blindfolds on. Oh, 696 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 5: here's the green bead that I need. There's a YouTube 697 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 5: video of people that went to see her work and 698 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 5: they were actually drawing a picture and this kid, who 699 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 5: was blindfolded knew exactly what was being drawn. So it 700 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 5: just shows you that we are so much more than 701 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 5: we think we are. There is talk about reincarnation out 702 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 5: in the world. It's one of these things where if 703 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 5: it empowers you to believe it, go for it, but 704 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 5: don't be frightened by it. Some people think, if say, 705 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 5: my child dies, is he reincarnated or will I see 706 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 5: them again in heaven. 707 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 4: It is my. 708 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 5: Personal belief and I don't push this on anybody that 709 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 5: the possibility of reincarnation is real, but it's not for everybody. 710 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 5: And I think if it is real and we do 711 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 5: get to come back, that there's part of us that 712 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 5: can actually remain on the other side. One of the 713 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 5: episodes I did there was a young boy who actually 714 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 5: had memories something like forty seven memories of someone who 715 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 5: had lived long before he was born. But then there's 716 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 5: also research that as someone may claim to be reincarnated 717 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 5: of somebody, mediums have still been able to work with 718 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 5: that loved one who has passed on. So I personally think, yeah, 719 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 5: we can be in two places at once. I think 720 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 5: our home really is in the afterlife or in the hereafter, 721 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 5: but there may be certain times when a part of 722 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 5: us can come back. And why that makes sense to 723 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 5: me is fifty years ago there were only four billion 724 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 5: people on planet Earth, and now in twenty twenty three 725 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 5: we are going on. I think it's eight billion something 726 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 5: like that, So population has doubled. If there was only reincarnation, 727 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 5: would still be four billion people, right, something to think about. 728 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 5: Don't be afraid of the afterlife. I know that's easy 729 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 5: to say, but our loved ones truly are around us 730 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 5: and they want us to know that they're still alive. 731 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 5: Why so that we can go on and we can 732 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 5: continue having a good life. So many people, just before 733 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 5: they have an operation, whether or not they believed in 734 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 5: God or a bigger picture, they pray. So I think 735 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 5: part of us knows that there's something bigger. But also 736 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 5: it's normal to look back at life and what we 737 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 5: did do and what we didn't do and have regrets. 738 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 5: So what would it be like if we lived every 739 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 5: day like it would maybe not be our last, but 740 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 5: that we are definitely going to go on and that 741 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 5: everything in our life matters. If we know we're going 742 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 5: to have this life review, how about taking care of 743 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 5: some of this stuff while we're here right now. I 744 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 5: know you told me earlier that you've had a loved 745 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 5: one who passed. When you go to Shades of the Afterlife, 746 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,959 Speaker 5: check out episode one hundred and fifteen. There's something that's 747 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 5: called sitting in the power, and I think it's one 748 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 5: of the most powerful things we human beings can do. 749 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,760 Speaker 5: You know, we all have an iPad or a phone, 750 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 5: and we need to plug it in to make sure 751 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 5: it works. I think our soul is the same way. 752 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 5: I think all of us are tapped into this divine wisdom. 753 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 5: So it's similar to a meditation technique that can help 754 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 5: us all to be in the present moment, help us 755 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 5: remember who we are, help us have more of those 756 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 5: spiritual experiences. In that episode one fifteen, I take you 757 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 5: on an experiential journey where you actually get to meet 758 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 5: and reunite with your loved one. It's very powerful. I 759 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 5: wish we could stay longer and have more coffee together 760 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 5: or go out for lunch, but I know your time 761 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 5: is short. I think that in this conversation, can I 762 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 5: convince you of the afterlife? 763 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: Eh? 764 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,879 Speaker 5: Probably not. But what I can do is I can 765 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 5: tell you there's a whole bunch of good men and 766 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 5: women around the world and that have been for hundreds, 767 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 5: if not thousands of years, communicating with those so called 768 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 5: dead and exploring this. There are some smart people. I 769 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 5: used to be such a skeptic and think this was 770 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 5: just woo oo stuff for the new age folk. It's 771 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 5: not that at all. Scientists, doctors, great professional people, moms 772 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 5: and dads, everybody are interested. More people right now on 773 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 5: planet Earth are interested and believe in the afterlife than don't. 774 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 5: But find something that excites you, whether it's listening to 775 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 5: the podcast or taking a class in mediumship or figuring 776 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 5: out electronic voice phenomena EVP. But take something and run 777 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,359 Speaker 5: with it. Find what you're passionate about. It may even 778 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 5: be putting a pen to paper and talking to your 779 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 5: loved one and being in a quiet place in your 780 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 5: mind and see what gets written. It may be words 781 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 5: from them. I'll leave you with just a quick thing 782 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 5: is if you can have a picture of your loved 783 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 5: one or a favorite memory and start talking to them. 784 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 5: Take a walk down memory lane. Think of some of 785 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 5: the fun you had to me. That is opening a 786 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 5: door for them and allowing them to walk through. You 787 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 5: may be surprised at some of the thoughts and feelings 788 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 5: that come right back to you. You may even turn 789 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 5: on the radio and their favorite song is playing. Our 790 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 5: time together is over. I appreciate you spending this time 791 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 5: with me. You are loved, You are one of a kind. 792 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 5: We do go on. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you for 793 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 5: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and 794 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 5: Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. 795 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghast 796 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: A and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 797 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 798 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: to iHeartRadio dot com.