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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two or four,

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Speaker 1: episode three after Day, the production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where you take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. It is Wednesday, October six one.

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Speaker 1: We will update you on what international day it is. Shortly,

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Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien, a K. Jesus will let

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Speaker 1: you fuck if your friend jump humps? Uh that's Curtsy

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Speaker 1: and Christie. I'm a Gucci sling talking about a little

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Speaker 1: floating soaking. I've heard it referred to his boat, but um,

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Speaker 1: one thing we know is it is irrevocably true. And

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,

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Speaker 1: Mr Miles Grag. Seems like each time I bring you

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Speaker 1: over to mine, Yeah, we does always end up soaking again.

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Speaker 1: And just as it was getting enough, he said, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't good enough. We need a friend to jump on

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Speaker 1: the bed. Baby, you want me to get hard? So

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Speaker 1: could you remove that bedside photo of God? Because I'm

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Speaker 1: in so deep and I'm trying to keep myself stiff

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Speaker 1: as a board to not anger or Lord. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: in so deep and I'm starting discreet at my friend

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Speaker 1: who's bouncing. Please start bouncing harder. Please start bouncing harder.

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Speaker 1: And that is from pos Baran a little shout out

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Speaker 1: to the Church of Letter Day Saints into Deep by

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Speaker 1: some forty one collab. Thank you for that one, beauty.

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Speaker 1: And the National Day. I mean, look, it's this is

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Speaker 1: a huge day, so get ready for let me just

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Speaker 1: run a few offer you National Walk to School Day,

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Speaker 1: National Pumpkin Seat Day, National plus size Appreciation Day, National

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Speaker 1: Orange Wine Day, National a Noodle Day, and the list

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Speaker 1: goes on, and also a National German American Days. So

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Speaker 1: with man just as a kind of update on where

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Speaker 1: I'm at. I was just having a conversation with my

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Speaker 1: three year old about the difference between fruits and vegetables,

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Speaker 1: and I think, I think this must happen to every

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Speaker 1: parent where they realized that the whole thing about like

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Speaker 1: they're being seeds in fruits but not vegetables is complete

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Speaker 1: and utter bullshit. Because I was like, yeah, well, so

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Speaker 1: a tomato is actually a fruit because of the season.

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Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, but what about like zucchini, what

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Speaker 1: about cucumbers? What about pumpkins? And I realized that I

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Speaker 1: had been lied to my whole life, and I've been

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Speaker 1: made to look like a fool in front of my

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Speaker 1: three year old, So I'm not not happy about this,

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Speaker 1: But Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our

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Speaker 1: third seat by a brilliant TV writer, performer, enrolled cow

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Speaker 1: It's Indian Tribal member, and all around comedy guy. To

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Speaker 1: his website, he's written on shows for Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, DreamWorks,

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Speaker 1: and as a staff writer on the upcoming Netflix fantasy

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Speaker 1: adventure series Spirit Rangers. Please welcome the hilarious, the talented

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Speaker 1: Joey Click. That's got everybody and I gotta I gotta

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Speaker 1: jump into the song too. I think I know the game.

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Speaker 1: Oh so king is really clean. She's got jumping humping

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Speaker 1: on a bad pup. But you know, I read it

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Speaker 1: in a so causine. Uh sss o King on a bead?

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Speaker 1: Uh oh so king on a bead? Have you done

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Speaker 1: it yet? Oh? But they're so jump humped out s

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Speaker 1: sss O King on a bed? H so good, so good,

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Speaker 1: so good on a bed. Done jump hump jump jump jump,

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Speaker 1: almost like someone's jump humping on the piano keyboard. That

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Speaker 1: a great anime short, that would be. Yeah. I always

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Speaker 1: every time I'm on the days like guys, thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me back. By the way, I forget about the

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Speaker 1: song parody game, and then while you're doing it, I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, oh, I gotta panic google what song? Like?

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Speaker 1: You know the tune too that I can very quickly

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Speaker 1: little testament to your quick mind there also, Jack, you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people like that. I believe that

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Speaker 1: you would still consider a cucumber, an egg plant, a

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Speaker 1: zucchinia fruit. Yeah, well but I don't. Okay, that's fine,

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Speaker 1: it's not in my household, Miles not here. Get that

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Speaker 1: that kind of sign and not for me. So what

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Speaker 1: think of And then like bananas have really tiny seeds

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Speaker 1: So those those ones are technically be the fruit because

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, I go with the seed rule,

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Speaker 1: and it allows me to be an insufferable asshole as supermarkets.

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Speaker 1: to have like a sweeter taste. Vegetables tend to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, a little bit more like savory is not

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Speaker 1: just tomato sauces a fruit smoothie basically, get here with that.

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Speaker 1: Come on, it's like apple sauce, you know. Although the

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Speaker 1: what's funny though. I reacted like you are now to

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Speaker 1: I was like that when I was announced that Pluto

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Speaker 1: would say early pandemic panic purchases, you know, the first

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Speaker 1: also a reminder of my shame. I guess yeah, and

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Speaker 1: turned into Pruno or something by this point. Anyway, back

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Speaker 1: about this. All right, we're gonna get to know you

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Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, a few

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Speaker 1: things that we're gonna be talking about. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about hospitals, a K, communists, China, fire and everybody because

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Rancis Howgan, the Facebook whistleblower. Are

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Speaker 1: we pronouncing that? Halgan? Hogan? Halgan who went and spoke

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Speaker 1: collectors items, and of course the War on Christmas has started.

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Speaker 1: It being October, so we will talk about the the

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Speaker 1: tropes that are getting picked up on the right and

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Speaker 1: the ones that are being ignored as hard as possible.

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Speaker 1: All of that plenty more. But first, Joey, we do

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Speaker 1: like to ask our guest, what is something from your

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Speaker 1: search history. I I'm not really a big sports person.

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Speaker 1: teams are doing great. I'm happy. But I just released

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Speaker 1: last game that the Cleveland Indians played under that name.

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Speaker 1: They announced they were changing the name last year, but

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Speaker 1: name as I don't know farewell to I guess farewell

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Speaker 1: The Cleveland Indians played their last game under that name

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. So for probably months, every few days, I

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Speaker 1: And yeah, a lot of that old merch from the rebrand.

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Speaker 1: They're just like they're donating and also selling it but

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Speaker 1: then giving the proceeds to charity, which I don't know

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Speaker 1: Not a great name. I got a lot of replies

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Speaker 1: with people giving me linking off to like twenty five

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Speaker 1: minute long YouTube videos explaining the name, and you watch that,

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately he's not, but that that was going to be

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Speaker 1: should say that I'm gonna like eat a fish like

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Speaker 1: heath Clue. We're trying to put it in my mouth

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Speaker 1: and debone it. But I'm not gonna like treat the fish,

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Speaker 1: So it's just gonna be a video of me trying

427
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Speaker 1: to put a full hih hed my head in my

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Speaker 1: mouth and meant coughing a lot, and then maybe yeah, uh,

429
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Speaker 1: or you just do one. You just make it look

430
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Speaker 1: like those like those videos you on Reddit where it's

431
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Speaker 1: like my first day skateboarding and then my thousandth day skateboarding.

432
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Speaker 1: We just see like this progression, the last one just

433
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Speaker 1: clean clean. Yeah. I feel like the last one is

434
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Speaker 1: just going to be like a shot at my tombstone

435
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Speaker 1: and r I P Joey Cliff. He died doing what

436
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: he loved, imitating a cartoon cat doing what he loved,

437
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Speaker 1: which I think was just choking on fishheads. But he

438
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Speaker 1: did because yeah, because as we all know, tombstones always

439
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Speaker 1: have the cause of death listed on the tombs. I

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Speaker 1: figured go for it, you know, just to just to

441
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Speaker 1: get get every every passer by a bit of just

442
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Speaker 1: a little bit of context of like how it all,

443
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: how the magic happened, way way more interesting than what

444
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: we actually go with, which is like everybody has a

445
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: beloved like song Father, like the funk out of here

446
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Speaker 1: he tell us how they died. I wanted to be

447
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: like Joey Clift date of birth, date of death. He

448
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: got eight by an alligator, right, mild great? Absolutely wrecked

449
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: by a dump truck. Hell yeah. So people get like

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Speaker 1: even more just like not tragic dump truck, like absolutely

451
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Speaker 1: by that gump truck. I don't even know what's in

452
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Speaker 1: that coffin. It was so bad. Like my question walking

453
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: past that would be like said, you get hit by it?

454
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Speaker 1: Or did you get like ground up? Did you get

455
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Speaker 1: like dumped into it? And trust into a cube? Yeah,

456
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: he got wrecked vision, you know. And then it's got

457
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Speaker 1: like an etching on the tombstone of you getting pull out,

458
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: but it's like a funny cartoon version of you with

459
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Speaker 1: texas over ye and then my soul going hell yeah,

460
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: playing a harp. All right, let's take a quick break

461
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. And we're back. And so

462
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: we've seen an increased enthusiasm from you know, municipalities, healthcare

463
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Speaker 1: systems to ensure that people comply with vaccine mandates. In

464
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Speaker 1: New York. There have been many stories of healthcare workers

465
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Speaker 1: like trying to unite as anti bactors against these mandates

466
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: and hoping that you know, staffing shortage would prevent them

467
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Speaker 1: from being terminated. And this is the one time that

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Speaker 1: I am team fuck fuck the unionization of of these

469
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Speaker 1: employees because they they fucked around and found out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think they're finding out that a hospital

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Speaker 1: is in fact a workplace where the medical profession is

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Speaker 1: respected and the centuries of research that their entire fields

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Speaker 1: rests upon they acknowledge. And you know, I'm also trying

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Speaker 1: to keep patients and workers safe. And so the north

475
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Speaker 1: Well Health System, they said four employees who refused to

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Speaker 1: be vaccinated, they were fired. And the system there there

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Speaker 1: this health care systems like on Long Island, and they

478
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: said it's like more than seventy four thousand people are

479
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: employed there. So ent of the employees were like, yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I I I will be vaccinated. But you know, I

481
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: think this also the other part of it is they're

482
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Speaker 1: saying like, look, you're fired, but if you get your

483
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: ship together and get vaccinated so you're not you know,

484
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: an infection vector within a hospital building, then you're more

485
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: than welcome to reapply for a position. And you know

486
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: a lot of activists or i'll say active obviously use

487
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: air quotes because I'm not sure what exactly the true

488
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: American hero American Patriots will because it will be taps

489
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: playing at their funeral. They choose to focus very narrowly,

490
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Speaker 1: like on the fact that they're just being made to

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Speaker 1: do something that I should have a choice in, when

492
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Speaker 1: the fact is we're still living in a pandemic. People

493
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Speaker 1: are still continuing to die needlessly, and being vaccinated helps

494
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Speaker 1: us reduce the transmission of the virus and keeps people

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Speaker 1: and vulnerable people safe, like young kids. And I just

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Speaker 1: bring that up because I just read this story that

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Speaker 1: this family in Virginia, their ten year old daughter passed

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Speaker 1: away from COVID complications. She went from having a headache

499
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Speaker 1: to passing away in five days and then they she

500
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Speaker 1: got a positive test like posthumously, they like the result

501
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: came in there like, oh, it was COVID complications. They

502
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: found Like the one of the mothers was saying that

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Speaker 1: her ten year old daughter was being made to be

504
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Speaker 1: like the COVID like nurse for the the class. So

505
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: if a kid was sick, they would shoot this little

506
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: girl would walk them to the nurses office or if

507
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: they had to, like they needed their books because like

508
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: they were too sick to be at school, like this

509
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: little girl was then bringing them the books. Now this

510
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: is just being you know, this is this is what

511
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Speaker 1: the parents are saying happen, and they're investigating it still,

512
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: but still just shows you how vulnerable people are. Whether

513
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: she got it there or another place, it's just so

514
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: clear we're not doing every possible thing we can to

515
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: keep people safe and also making it easy for people

516
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: to do what is safe because we're still caught in

517
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: this thing of like get back to work or you know,

518
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: the pandemic is over selectively, Yeah, a few things on that.

519
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: Something that's so interesting to me about like the the

520
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: common thought for a lot of antivactors is we don't

521
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: know what's in the vaccine, which yes we do. And

522
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: also tell me what's in Mike's hard lemonade, like you know,

523
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: if what's in every single thing you eat today? Yeah, yeah, totally.

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00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: It's like I feel like there's a level of like

525
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: unearned suspicion about something thing that like maybe shouldn't exist,

526
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: and we're seeing like the consequences of that. If you

527
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: like ten year olds getting and getting COVID and dying

528
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: of it, that's nuts, And like there is such this

529
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: weird focus on like, you know, people getting fired over

530
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: not getting vaccinated, whereas we're not focusing on the of

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Speaker 1: people at that hospital that did get vaccinated. You know,

532
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: like it's, uh, it is just this weird I don't know,

533
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: it's like looking for talking points and looking for facts

534
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: that like that boost up your opinion on the thing

535
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: with while ignoring the wide swath of facts that are

536
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: in the opposite direction. You know. Yeah, the don't I

537
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Speaker 1: got right cification of America to quote the Rocky scene

538
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: that Miles is a fan of, right, Sorry, in what

539
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: contexts are you talking about? He's just lost when I

540
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: got him from a boxing committee where they were like

541
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: talking about the medical helped him, the max complications of

542
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: him boxing again as like a seven year old. And

543
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: then he turns around and says, don't I got rights,

544
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: which suggests an understanding of right. Says I have the

545
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: right to do whatever I want whenever I want. Yeah, exactly,

546
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: and that that seems to be the yeah, I guess

547
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: that you there's nothing stopping you from like walking into

548
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: the middle of the street ignoring across walk. But if

549
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: you get like your ship wrecked by a dump truck. Alright,

550
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: p Miles, Alright, then you should get that ship. It

551
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: was so cool you can't even admitted. Bro, you should

552
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: have seen that ship. That's me and heaven. That's That's

553
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: what it says on the tombstone is he got wrecked

554
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: by a dump truck dot dot dot. It was sick

555
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: as ship. Seen that ship, bro, Yeah, but it's it is. Yeah,

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00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: I don't know it is. It is. Uh, Like I

557
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: saw I heard a fact like kind of a thought

558
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: on Twitter that like if we maintain our current vaccine rights,

559
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: we will still be in a pandemic in or still

560
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: be at the same level that we're at of lockdown

561
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: until like that's nuts. That's like a good chunk of

562
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: our lives to be like locked down into pandemic. And

563
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: it's because so many people are not willing to get

564
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: vaccinated or wear masks or do like any safety precautions

565
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: on this like massive global pandemic that we're in. And yeah,

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00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad that hospitals are mandating people who

567
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: work at hospitals to get vaccinated because like I don't

568
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: want to catch COVID from a nurse if I come

569
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: in with like a sprain toe or something, you know, right, yeah,

570
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: because I like, hey, have you you want to follow

571
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: my TikTok kid stuff, And I'm like, yes, I do

572
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: also wear a mask. Okay, okay, fast, fair, that's fair here,

573
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: So follow me first and then I'll put the mask on.

574
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: Show me on your phone. No, no, no, I gotta

575
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: be at the same time. All right, all right, okay, alright, alright,

576
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: gentleman's agreement. Okay, it was literally like arguing that you

577
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: have the right to drive drunk. Like it's you know,

578
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: you're putting other people's lives in danger, you're putting your

579
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: own life in danger. And even though that's the thing

580
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: you want to do, it doesn't give you the right

581
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: to do that. But yeah, it's like at a certain point,

582
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: like I mean, this is like so much of the conversation, right,

583
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: It's like some people are like, I have rights to

584
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: do whatever I want whatever we live in society, you know,

585
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, But like which one you do not

586
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: you do not have the right to do whatever you want.

587
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: That is not what's right in the constitution. And too

588
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, we like like we we have to

589
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: live together in a society, like we all live in

590
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: cities together. We all live in communities together. And like,

591
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: if you drive around drunk, that affects other people, you know, yeah, right,

592
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, then you might want to move

593
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: to a society where no one gives a funk about

594
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: anyone else. That might be the one you're more interested in,

595
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: because it's almost like they're trying to navigate with and well,

596
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: a majority of people are doing the right thing, and

597
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: so I'm using that to give myself like the basis

598
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: to be well, it's probably not that bad. A lot

599
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: of other people are safe, but this is what I

600
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 1: want to do very narrowly. So this isn't a version

601
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: of feeling free. Don't be bullied into not drunk driving, Okay,

602
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: don't be bullied. Don't let the thought bullies, uh, you know,

603
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 1: research right on Facebook, which speaking of Francis Halgan, which

604
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: is how German people say Hulk Hogan, last name um

605
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: has Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't know, you

606
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: know what, keep it, keep it, I don't know, man.

607
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: Come on now. Francis Hagan has now testified in front

608
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: of Congress in like words that it seems like they

609
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: might be able to understand based on their response, Yeah,

610
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean, because I think this one for a lot

611
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: of people, it feels this could be a slightly different

612
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: moment as it relates to Facebook and talking Facebook on

613
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: Capitol Hill, because typically when the Senate halls Facebook up

614
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: to the Hill for some just good old splaining, it's

615
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: usually some very slick representative or a lawyer or like

616
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: an alien form of Mark Zuckerberg like doing the talking

617
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: and people that are like these are all people that

618
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: are like well versed in obscuring like the sins of Facebook,

619
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: like through their like rhetorical mash trey and just being like, well,

620
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, I think I have to get back to you.

621
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: But actually the way this product is, you know, it's

622
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: all this just it's it's just a lot of sidestepping

623
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: when hard questions are being asked, well yeah, I mean,

624
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: and they're also explaining, like they're also doing this like

625
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: sick explanation. That's like explanation to like octogenarians who don't

626
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: know what computers are. Like that's part of it too,

627
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, oh, a huge part. So there it's

628
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: just very easy for them to go by because they'll

629
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: be like, what's Finns so, and they're like that's not us, sir,

630
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: You're confused, old man. Here's your apple sauce, and I

631
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: think your tapioca is getting warm. It's like, oh, thank you.

632
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: And they've just completely sidestepped to question, well, how again

633
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: has come out here and just letting these dinosaurs know,

634
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: very straightforward and very plain words from the beginning. So

635
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: this is howgan, just coming to the senators, being very direct,

636
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: straightforward and letting them know, hey, you know, um there,

637
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: there's there's actual Let let me just say this in

638
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: normal sentences, what is happening at Facebook? During my time

639
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: at Facebook, I came to realize the devastating truth. Almost

640
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: no one outside of Facebook knows what happens inside of Facebook.

641
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: The company intentionally hides vital information from the public, from

642
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: the U. S Government and from governments around the world.

643
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: The documents I have provided to Congress proof that Facebook

644
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: has repeatedly mislead the public about what its own research

645
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: reveals about the safety of children, the efficacy of its

646
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: artificial intel leigin systems, and it's role in spreading divisive

647
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: and extreme messages. So that's that's that seems like an

648
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: easy follow h just yeah, you' you're you're blowing the whistle.

649
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: You're saying everything you thought you knew, you act in

650
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: fact do not know because there is a policy there

651
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: to keep as many people in the dark as possible.

652
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: And that was sort of one of her first statements.

653
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: And people are like, Okay, well, well what else is

654
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: going on? What what what else can you can you

655
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: tell us is happening? And you know, I think she

656
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: said she stresses the same thing about this whole profits

657
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 1: over people thing which we've seen constantly over and over again,

658
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: which is that when push comes to shove, they will

659
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: choose whatever they have to do to make money. That's it,

660
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: that's all that, that's all that this company is gonna do.

661
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: And again, just so for the for the elders in

662
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: the back, in case you were understanding, like, let me

663
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: just say, it's not just algorithms or things like that.

664
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: This is the choices. These are the choices that are

665
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: being made at Facebook. During my time at Facebook, first

666
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: working as the lead product manager for Civic Misinformation and

667
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: later on counter espionage, I saw Facebook repeatedly encounter conflicts

668
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: between its own profits and our safety. Facebook consistently resolved

669
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: these conflicts in favor of its own profits, The result

670
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: has been more division, more harm, more lies, more threats,

671
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: and more combat. In some cases, this is this dangerous

672
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: on life talk has led to actual violence that harms

673
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: and even kills people. Yeah, surprises when it's it's not

674
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: just uh like I mean, like in the industry that

675
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: we work in, like we've experienced Facebook just you know,

676
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: presumably just flat outlying about stuff in a way that

677
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: like just destroys entire industries. Like like a lot of

678
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: us worked in work or worked in like kind of

679
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: the digital comedy space, you know, writing for you know,

680
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: comedy websites who you know, when Facebook started allowing videos

681
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: and our platform, they like goosed the numbers on all

682
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: of their videos. So all of a sudden, you see

683
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: somebody post a video from their kid's birthday party and

684
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: then would look like it had like five million views

685
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: or something like that. And then every comedy website was

686
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: just like, oh, pivot to video only on Facebook. And

687
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: then that turned out to be like just a horrible

688
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: idea because Facebook just you know kind of tea roll

689
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: past it. It's a view you're like, it isn't. Yeah,

690
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: at my time, is certain companies the like the people

691
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: who are running to promcheck. We love it just just

692
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: because even if they don't watch it, says down there

693
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: it was you three million times, and I'm like, god, yeah,

694
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: and that's something that like is it's you know, a

695
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: big reason that like online sketch comedy is just not

696
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: a thing anymore. Is like, because Facebook convinced all these

697
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: places to pivot to video, they hired huge video teams,

698
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: and this caused like too much overhead, which caused them

699
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: to have to like shut down lay off all of

700
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: their staffs because it turns out that like Facebook was

701
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: goosing those numbers in the companies were seeing no off

702
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: it from these huge video teams that they were starting.

703
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, if they'll like do you know,

704
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: if they'll work in such a way that's self serving

705
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: for that, then yeah, for sure. I'm sure Facebook, like

706
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, gooses things in other areas as this whistleblower

707
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: definitely pointed out, you know, and I think you know,

708
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: she's calling for I think like most people like transparency,

709
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: like regulation oversight, because a real popular defense that Facebook

710
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, will deploy a lot of times, like you know,

711
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: we don't really need any like regulation because we're not like,

712
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 1: like this is not like an infrastructure people are using,

713
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: Like it's people were trying to start our own trying

714
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: to start a new world. Everybody cool ship. You know

715
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,479
Speaker 1: it's not infrastructure, but you know when all their whole

716
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: ship went down for five hours on Monday, that certainly

717
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: blew that argument up because it's became really clear because

718
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: many people were like suddenly unable to communicate with people

719
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: over what's app internationally, like many people do use what'sapp

720
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: for or even like a lot of people who maybe do,

721
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: they're like run a small business on Instagram. Suddenly like,

722
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm losing out on my livelihood because this thing went down.

723
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I think a lot

724
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: of people begin to like that is providing a lot

725
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: of robust infrastructure for people to communicate or create a livelihood.

726
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: So what it's still just this casual thing. My version

727
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: of that, which I would say is equal in levels

728
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: of stress and importance, is I have a pro wrestling

729
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: group chat on Facebook, and then Facebook shutdown. I had

730
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, what's everybody's phone numbers? Let's put

731
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: everybody on a cell phone chat. So we have to

732
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: like migrate the pro wrestling group chat text message for

733
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: five hours just so we could like talk about the

734
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: sweet wrestling news and rumors without like losing that infrastructure.

735
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: So like, but but that is a real thing that

736
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: is like just Facebook Messenger, Instagram Messenger and all that

737
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: are like ways that businesses communicate at this point, and like, yeah,

738
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: or just using shops through Instagram, like if you're just

739
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: being like, hey, here's my bespoke whatever, whereas I'm you know,

740
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: creating that. Facebook's a great place for people or Instagram,

741
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: and Facebook has been a place where people have been

742
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: able to like I'm actually making my living using this stuff.

743
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: When I was working in the online comedy space, like

744
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: there there was a slow but steady kind of change

745
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: from things. You would get a lot of traffic from

746
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: Facebook and then like they would start like kind of

747
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: squeezing it down and squeezing it down. And then like

748
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: I went to a symposium like put on by Facebook,

749
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: you had to just like focus on Facebook because that's

750
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: where so much of the traffic was coming from. And

751
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: like the people were like, yeah, industry wide page placement

752
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: is really the only thing that's working. And it was

753
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: just like a given all of a sudden that like

754
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: you just had to pay to get to distribute your

755
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: content on on Facebook. So that's like another way that

756
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: they just like took out any small content creat Yeah.

757
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: It's like if you have a Facebook page with a

758
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: million followers and you post a video to it, usually,

759
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: like pre this, it would show up in the new

760
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: speeds of all million of your followers. Then Facebook started

761
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: doing kind of like this thing where oh, it would

762
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: only go to like ten percent of your followers and

763
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: then based on like how it doesn't analytics, and then

764
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: they would slowly parse it out to like the other million.

765
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: Or you could give Facebook a hundred dollars and they

766
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: would immediately put it out to a million people. Yeah,

767
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: and a bunch of people you don't even know. And

768
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: but that's you know, you're either paying them a shipload

769
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: of money or you know, doing like a fucking rain dance,

770
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: like to hope that the Facebook God smile on you

771
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: that day and like tweak the algorithm in a way

772
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: that makes it like a little bit fair to the

773
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: little guy. But all of that to say that all

774
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: publishers are still presumably like non podcast publishers I guess,

775
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: are still presumably very folk used on like what Facebook's

776
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: preferences are and I feel like that has to influence

777
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: like what we see, like the the this story Miles

778
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: that you put in here like just made me wonder

779
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: about the fence to thing, which was like in and

780
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: of itself like inherently funny, but the fact that that

781
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: one as viral as it did and was sort of

782
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: the thing that overshadowed or like that was like the

783
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: main takeaway from that day of testimony was the cenator

784
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: being like, what's a fence to? Can you not do

785
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: any more fence to? Like I I have to feel

786
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: like that people saw that that was getting a great

787
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: response on Facebook, and that Facebook kind of encouraged that along,

788
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: because why the funk wouldn't they? Sure? But I think also,

789
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're looking at very cynically how we

790
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: would at the Senate, it's just like, even organically I

791
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: would look at that and go, this is the fucking problem.

792
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: He's supposed to haul these people up here for answers

793
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: and he's just getting he's wasting his breath getting explained

794
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: like a thing that isn't necessarily consequential than the purpose

795
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: of the here. But yeah, I mean, but yes that

796
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: I think like they say. She goes on to say,

797
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: we all live in a world that is being affected

798
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: by Facebook, whether you are on there or not, there

799
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: are many people that are so yeah to that point,

800
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's there's an element to that. I just

801
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: want to say quick side note on a Jack saying

802
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: the term rain dance. I was like, it's like like like,

803
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm a Native person and I've like heard that phrase

804
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: a lot. But I was like, wait, what did tribes

805
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: really do that? Or is that just a thing that

806
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: people say that tribes did? And I just googled it.

807
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: I just want to say, shout out to the Zuni tribe.

808
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: But the Southwest they did rain dances. Uh not not

809
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: totally a thing that people just made up that native

810
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: folks don't actually do. The Zuni tribe does it, So

811
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: shout out the Zunis. Yeah, there you go. A teaching moment. Yeah.

812
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: I was teaching moment for me too, because I was

813
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: just like, wait, I've only seen the stereotype of that,

814
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: but is that a real thing? You know? Right right right.

815
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: The The other part of this that it was very

816
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: interesting was suddenly Richard Blumenthal, the famous man behind the Fence,

817
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: to comment his energy was a lot different too, which

818
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: I found to be again like things feel a little

819
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: bit different about this hearing because now I think I'm

820
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: sure Richard Blumenthal has read up now on everything Facebook.

821
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: So it looks like you put a little color in

822
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: his hair, but a little bit look a little I mean,

823
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: he's always it's always been that form of denying. I'm

824
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: aging Brown. I think the reason for his fire is

825
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: that he has a Facebook page and he Facebook shutdown

826
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: and he was just like, no, my Heathcliff means he's

827
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: like they love ape. He was just like he was

828
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: just like there was five hours where he couldn't read

829
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: a garbage ape and he was panicking. Yeah, like his

830
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: staffers were having to like make ones on paper. It's like,

831
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: oh no, this has a logical punchline. That's not what

832
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: garbage ape. Heathcliff's tooth is. On the other side, Keith

833
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: Cliff is wearing a helmet that has a word on

834
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: it that you can tract the logic of get out

835
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: of here, right, So this is him saying he's coming

836
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: with some way different energy rather than what's vins to

837
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: He's like, Mark, get over here. Mark Zuckerberg ought to

838
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: be looking at himself in the mirror today, and yet

839
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: rather than taking responsibility and showing leadership, Mr Zuckerberg is

840
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: going sailing. Is new modus opera endi No apologies, no admission,

841
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: no action, nothing to see here, Mark Zuckerberg, you need

842
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: to come before this committee. You need to explain two

843
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: Francis Hogan, to us, to the world, and to the

844
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: parents of America, what you were doing and why you

845
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: did it. M hm, So listen, only about seven years

846
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: too late, that's cool. But to that point, as you know,

847
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give Bluementhal I'm not going to

848
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: just start standing up applauding him because there's they they're

849
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: they're able to do things up there, and Amy Clo

850
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: which are She's also like, let me also let me

851
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: also come in with a take onto why there's been

852
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: this glacial pace in terms of us being able to

853
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: regulate or have oversight over things like Facebook. We have

854
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: done nothing when it comes to making the algorithms more transparent,

855
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: allowing for the university research that you refer to. Why

856
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: because Facebook and the other tech companies are throwing a

857
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: bunch of money around this town and people are listening

858
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: to them, we have done nothing significantly passed, although we

859
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: are on a bipartisan basis working in the Antitrust Subcommittee

860
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: to get something done. A consolidation, which you understand allows

861
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: the dominant platforms um to control all this, like the

862
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: bullies in the neighborhood buy out the companies that maybe

863
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: could have competed with them, and did the bells and whistles.

864
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's there's so many elements to this. You've

865
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: got the lobbying parts of this where they're like they've

866
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: bought people's votes. So that's an element of it, and

867
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: we're trying to do something. But I don't know that

868
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: this this I feel like at this point her words,

869
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: Francis Hogan's words are just so direct and just powerful,

870
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: like to these people that maybe this, this will inspire

871
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 1: something different. There's also like these tech companies are getting

872
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: so big. This is a story fromen but like Facebook

873
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: and Amazon are building their own towns for their employees

874
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: to live. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it's like there is

875
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: just this weird level of like, yeah, we need to

876
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: have some level of oversight on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, all

877
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: the hits, friends get the get the person who runs

878
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: friends through in here unless there are a lot of

879
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: memes about like the other platforms that kind of be

880
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: like the spade to the back and be like, I

881
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, Facebook, they get it together over there.

882
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: You know, they're able to like get rid of things

883
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: like like obscene like child pornography. They're very quickly able

884
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: to like you know, get things like that off of

885
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: the Internet. And then I think that's why a lot

886
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: of people are there, like but for whatever, but white

887
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: supremacy is just too lucrative, So that's why you want

888
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: to just turn the other way. Because Halgan also said

889
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: to that prior to the election, they like ramped up

890
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: a lot of the controls to help curb a lot

891
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: of misinformation and and just any just chaos around the

892
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: election because they didn't want a replay of twenty sixteen.

893
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: Or maybe they did but just to a lesser extent.

894
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: But they said once the election happened, they fucking they

895
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: took all those controls off, which really helped all the

896
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: big lie misinformation really get a ton of interaction on

897
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: Facebook because Facebook was trying to recoup the money they

898
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: lost from doing the slightly responsible thing before the election.

899
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: But it's also like the way that companies like Facebook.

900
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: Profit are things called like it's engagement, like comments, shares, whatever.

901
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: So like if you get into a Facebook argument with

902
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: like somebody you went to high school with who like

903
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: doesn't think that vaccines are real or whatever, like that's

904
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: like Facebook wants that. And like there's also things that

905
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: they can do with the algorithm to steer you in

906
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: that direction of like seeing things that they know that

907
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: you'll disagree with and comment on, so you'll start those

908
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: Facebook arguments, which will increase the engagement on the piece

909
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: or whatever. And like it is just this power that

910
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: these companies have over like you know, like how we

911
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: communicate as people. And yeah, it sure would be cool

912
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: if somebody who didn't have profit in mind was like

913
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: quit it right, Yeah, exactly, And you hope that like

914
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: they would have people like Holgan help Congress understand what

915
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: they can do and what they could do, rather than

916
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: Richard Blumenthal asking his granddaughter like yeah, what what should happen?

917
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: But that's why it's important that people like AOCD in

918
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: Congress who are like in their thirties, you know, people

919
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: who like have Instagram accounts and understand what this stuff is,

920
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, rather than someone who's like I don't know.

921
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: My staffers said I need one of these things. So

922
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: I have that, and I have a TikTok, but I

923
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: don't know what it is like them, like they have

924
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: an email that their staffers check for them, you know,

925
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: m hm right they Yeah, that's a really good point

926
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: about the and like they put and put these benevolent

927
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: seeming values into the or not even benevolent, but just

928
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: harmless seeming values like engagement into the algorithm, and then

929
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: that ends up leading to these outcomes that they can

930
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: claim are unintentional. They're they're not putting like angry up

931
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: the Facebook community like into the algorithm, but it's just engagement.

932
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: But that the outcome of that, which may be unintended,

933
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: but they're not doing anything to fix it, like, is

934
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: that they just can't be trusted to ever do anything

935
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: to fix it on their own it. Yeah, the only

936
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: way it can be done is a regulation, right, and

937
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: society is just all saying like, we'll make as much

938
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: money as you can however you can, Like people be damned.

939
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: I gotta say one of my favorite Facebook interactions to

940
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: watch was a guy went to high school with This

941
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: was probably I want to say, two years ago challenged

942
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: another guy to a fist fight over Facebook, and like

943
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: they were on the Facebook wall post, which I forget

944
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: what it is about. It was probably just like the

945
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: Mariners are bad or whatever, you know, because yeah, something

946
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: like that. But it was like watching them try to

947
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: plan having a fist fight with each other on a

948
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: Facebook well was delight because it was just like, like,

949
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: what time do you get off work? I gotta work

950
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: at six pm. Let's eating this park? No, I actually

951
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm busy tonight. Let's do it. All your friends fight, bro? No,

952
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: I know, I just have my daughters on on Fridays

953
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: and Saturdays, and I too. Grown men in their thirties

954
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 1: trying to plan a fist fight publicly over fake Facebook ruled.

955
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: How were Thursdays for you, bitch? Yeah, it was like

956
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: a lot of It was like a lot of that.

957
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: It was like the new chef like, I can't do

958
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: it during my lunch break and then I mean sales.

959
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: If I come back all scraped up, I might lose

960
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: my job. I'm not gonna risk that you. So, actually,

961
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: on second thought, now that I'm thinking about that, let's

962
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: leave Facebook on regulated. Yeah. One quick aside on the

963
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: company towns thing, Joey that you just mentioned. So last

964
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: week we talked about Amazon doing these company towns for

965
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: sort of the laborers that make their business model possible.

966
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: But I think you were referring to these Facebook and

967
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: Google company towns that are more for like the executive

968
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: class that they're building, that are going to be these

969
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: you know, elysium style like really beautiful, you know, the

970
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: way the Google campus was held up as like the

971
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: best place to work because you had all these fucking

972
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: chefs and the many ball pits and slides. Like, they're

973
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: building these company towns that are like the next step

974
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: in luxury and like you know, communal living. But really

975
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,479
Speaker 1: they're just gonna be these hives of like groupthink where

976
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: which is really dangerous because these companies are you know,

977
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: controlling our country from the top down, like in really

978
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: profound ways, and so like, you know, the more you

979
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: just get the like minded people at the top who

980
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: have all the power just in their own like like

981
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: literally literal bubble, the I feel like the worst it's

982
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: going to get. All right, let's take a quick break

983
00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk about Starbucks cups and

984
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: we're back, and you know, the market this is actually

985
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: a story that I noticed like five years ago that

986
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: Starbucks collectible cups are a thing, because I was at

987
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: a Starbucks and I think, I don't know why I

988
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: was even looking at the collectible cups, but they were

989
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: adamantly saying only one per customer, like you could only

990
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: buy one per customer, and I was like, wait, what

991
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: is what? He was like, it's sweeping these into a

992
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: duffle bag and it's funny, and like, all right, would

993
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: you say five years ago? I remember about five years ago.

994
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,959
Speaker 1: It was around the time too, and I would travel

995
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: a lot from one of my jobs. One of my

996
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: co workers would be like like whatever city I was in, like, hey,

997
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: can you grab me like the cup um when you're there?

998
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: And I'm like what, Like I don't I only have

999
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: carry on and I don't put like a fucking like

1000
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: what And they were like please, like I'll give you

1001
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: all this money to do it. And I was like,

1002
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: because I just really wanted from Boston. I need They're

1003
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: like I need the Boston one and I was like, okay,

1004
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: I'll bring it back and they were so fucking grateful.

1005
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: They're like, you don't understand how hard this ship is

1006
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: to get blah blah blah blah. So I was like, Okay,

1007
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: so I see this is this is like sneakers for

1008
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: white women. Yeah, this is the Starbucks scream drops for

1009
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: people in their forties. Got it? Yeah? And like I

1010
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: look and I like collectible ship. I'm definitely have a

1011
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: soft spot for nostalgia and things that are like commemorative

1012
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: for especially with things that it relates to, you know,

1013
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: my childhood or adult interests and you know, and I've

1014
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: even paid reseller prices for something like a sneaker or

1015
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: a vintage jersey or something like that, but it takes

1016
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: me a long time to resolve to do that because

1017
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: I just hate that. I just hate what reselling has done.

1018
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: Just two sneakers. And I've seen that evolution of it

1019
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: being like, hey, you go to a store to buy

1020
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: the thing you like and then you have it versus

1021
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: someone's gonna buy everything and then just fucking it's your

1022
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: back to the wall and be like how much will

1023
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: you pay for this dollars for Nikes? Is that what

1024
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: you want? And I'm like, god, I and I don't

1025
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: and I can't, so I will wear these crocs Tiva's instead.

1026
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: But last month, Starbucks started pulling out their new Halloween collection,

1027
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: and I guess every fall they have new limited dish

1028
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: uh seasonal merchandise, which like this year has like a

1029
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: glow in the dark spider web. Uh And wait, how

1030
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: people would you stab for that in the dark spin

1031
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: would you? Would you stab? Five people? Four people? How

1032
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: many people talking? I mean not to honor my iracketed friends?

1033
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: Eight people? And some of these people have come through.

1034
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: The reseller game is just out of control. People come

1035
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: in by out all the stock and then they resell

1036
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: them online at markups. These cups go for around between

1037
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: twenty and they're selling them for like two to three

1038
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. Some people are selling the whole set for

1039
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: like dollars. And it's just interesting to watch this because

1040
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: like there's this article that sort of like taps into

1041
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: like the reddit community to see what they're saying, and

1042
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: their complaints sound exactly like what Sneaker has sounded like

1043
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: ten years ago, of like what the fund is going on,

1044
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: Like like you're not gonna drink out of this, You're

1045
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: just gonna put it on a mantle, Yeah right right

1046
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: exactly Like where people like where are your sneakers? You're

1047
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: not gonna drink out of that shoe. N try let

1048
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: me see k before. Yeah, and a lot of people

1049
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: are saying this is one person on Reddit quote, I'm

1050
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: from the Bay Area and every store here has wiped

1051
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: out and has been for the past week. I found

1052
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: one for a decent price online and made the person

1053
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: an offer. A couple of minutes later, they reject my

1054
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: offer and double the price. It's impossible to get any

1055
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: cups for these launches unless you pay two to four

1056
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: times the price. I went to a Starbucks order of

1057
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: the hot chocolate and they didn't have any cups. They

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Speaker 1: just poured it into my hands. I can't even claim

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Speaker 1: they burned it. It was very loo corn. Yeah, it

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01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: was the tea. The temperature was fine. Yeah. That's like

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01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: I wonder how much us being you know, stuck in

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01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: our homes is is furthering people as far as that

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01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: stuff goes. I feel like there's a similar thing going

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01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: on in like card collecting right now, where like it

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01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: wasn't there a story over the summer, or like it

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01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: was the thing over the summer of like people showing

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01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: up at targets like the second that they open on

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Speaker 1: like a Thursday morning because that's when the new Pokemon

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01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: card dropped is or something like that, and people getting

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01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: into like fist fights over like boxes of like football

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Speaker 1: cards or whatever. You know, Like I think it might

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01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: be one of those things where like because you know,

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01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: like a lot of our social interactions are kind of

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01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: like lessened right now. It's like one thing that we

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01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: do have we can look forward to is like these

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01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: Starbucks cups or Pokemon cards or sneakers or whatever, so

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01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: we're like really hyper focusing on them. Yeah. Yeah, I

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01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: mean I think this it'll this will always kind of be,

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Speaker 1: you know, a phenomenon on because I mean, like especially

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Speaker 1: with card collecting, it seems like too there's like older

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01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: millennials grew up collecting trading cards as kids and then

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01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: kind of fell out of it now have more disposable

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01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: income and spending money to do these things that they

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01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: really liked his kids, the Pokemon stuff. I just see

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01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: it like how any reseller looks at things. They look

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01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: at something that people want. Most people don't care. It's

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01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: just they know that the economics of it is such

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01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: that if I buy a lot of these, I can

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Speaker 1: really turn a profit by just being just quicker to

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01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: the drop than other people. And you know the manufacturers

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01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: know what they're doing, because it's like Starbucks is doing

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01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: the exact thing like Nike or Adidas does, which is

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01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: like create false scarcity, to create so much hype around

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01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: every single drop that they'll they'll just fly off the

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01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: shelf and you'll never have access inventory raise the profile

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01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: of the next drop, because I doubt that they they

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01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: care at all to be like, wow, I guess we

1098
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: should increase stock next year so people can everyone can

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01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: joy the spider Web cup. Right now, They like, you're fired,

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01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm a Starbucks. You're fired for suggesting the point is

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01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,919
Speaker 1: to create the first line outside of a Starbucks since

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01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: the early nineties, right, yeah, I mean they should just

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01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: have baristas do what some sneaker shops will do, like

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01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: to prevent resellers. They'll like put them on right now,

1105
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: Like if you buy them, you have to rock them out.

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01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: You have to wear you have to wear this Brooklyn

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01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: Starbucks cup on your feet out. Yeah. Just then be like, yo,

1108
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: you gotta drink a hot ass drink out of you

1109
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: right now, not that stock anymore. Take the tech. You

1110
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: better look like you're enjoying that drink too. Didn't you

1111
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: imagine like just like how they're sneaker head curious like

1112
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: the Starbuck cups purists and like hating on him in

1113
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: line to like look at this reseller ash, Yeah, somebody

1114
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: going in and being like seven hundred Boston Starbucks cups.

1115
01:02:54,680 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: It's like, I do wonder if hoarding type like symptoms

1116
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: are getting worse during the during the pandemic. And like

1117
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, I do feel like agoraphobia, like my own,

1118
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: like just fear of like people and social anxiety has

1119
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: gotten like way worse just by not being around people

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Speaker 1: in person. I do. I do wonder if like that

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01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: is another symptom of it we might be saying. I

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Speaker 1: want to say, for the record, Jack has five thousand

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01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: Starbucks cups stacked up behind him right now. And this

1124
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: is this is an intervention. We know this is about you,

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01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: one of each, one of each though, So don't you

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01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: know I'm not really You're not of the Boston. I

1127
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: got doubles of the New York City. Actually I got triples.

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Speaker 1: I got couples of that. I'll give you five hundred

1129
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: bucks for that Boston double, right, and all that has

1130
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: to be true or else nothing else I said is

1131
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: true reference that I think you should leave skits. Joey.

1132
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure. It's been a pleasure having you

1133
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: as always. Where can people find you and follow you? Yeah?

1134
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me. Uh yeah, this is

1135
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,439
Speaker 1: super fun. I'll always love being on the Daily SAT. Guys.

1136
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: You can follow me on Twitter at Joey Tageman. You

1137
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: can follow me on Instagram at Joey Cliff with like

1138
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: five or six eyes. The reason for that it's a

1139
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: twelve year old took Joey Cliff with one eye. So

1140
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: I just got a deal and then, um, I'm here.

1141
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: I gotta gotta shout out. I'm here to promote. I

1142
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: just released a new animated short with Comedy Central. I

1143
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit the top of the show.

1144
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: It's called how to Cope with Your Team Changing. It's

1145
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: Native American mascot. It's a comedy p s a about

1146
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: sports teams who just changed their weird native mascot. It's like, yeah,

1147
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland Indians, Washington football team, and like thousands of others,

1148
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: I wrote it, directed it, starring it. It's also featuring

1149
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: voices from Chanlenge Meeting and Tyler Flare from Ruthroot Falls

1150
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: and John Timothy from Spear Rangers. So it's got an

1151
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 1: all Native voice guest too, and that's like dope as ship.

1152
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: So how you can check it out on all of

1153
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: Comedy Central social media platforms. Follow me on Twitter. I'm

1154
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: posting it about a ton but yeah, I watch It's

1155
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: super funny video, awesome necessary viewing. I'm sure I wonder

1156
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: how many people will watch it and is it? Is it?

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01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: It's not like a p s A. It's like it's

1158
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: like a comedy shot. It's like an animated Okay, yeah,

1159
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 1: Just there's always like that room where there's some person

1160
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: who thinks it's real, you know, like, oh yeah, I

1161
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: think there's potential for that some elderly person Cleveland to

1162
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: be like this tells you by some of the comments,

1163
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people. Are you love to

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01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: see it? Is there a tweet or some of the

1165
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: work of social media you've been enjoying? So I would

1166
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: say my favorite tweet right now is a tweet that

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01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: I just saw this morning from a super funny Native

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01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: comedian named Caitlin Jeffers. And the tweet, I think it

1169
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: LIKELI literally tweet it this morning is my favorite new

1170
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: ethnic stereotype is that I'm somehow involved with Reservation Dogs

1171
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: and Reservation Dogs super funny native TV show or Native

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01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: created TV show on effects created by stone Hard Joe's

1173
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: got on NATVE Writer's Room. But I saw that and

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01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, the amount of friends who have like

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01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: texted me congratulations about Reservation Dogs is like hilarious and

1176
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: like maybe all racist because it's like, I do not

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01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: work on that show. I have not worked on that show.

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01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm friends with a lot of people who work on

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01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: that show. They're all great, the show is really good.

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01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: You should check it out. But it's just like every

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01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: Native person you know in Hollywood doesn't work on reservation

1182
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: it's that or they're like you're watching that right, yeah,

1183
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: And the answer it's like, yes, yes, I'm watching it

1184
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: because it's feel good but also good to assume that

1185
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: just come at me with that like in years Reservation Dogs,

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01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: huh yeah. Man. That's like when that anime Yasca came

1187
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: out about the Black Samurai and people are like, dude,

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01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: did you work on this? Like have you seen? Like yeah,

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01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's thank you for knowing I'm black in Japanese,

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01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: but no, I did not work on the anime yet

1191
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: it is this this weird thing where like, um, shortly

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01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: after the election, the election results came in and I

1193
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: think the Navajo and Apache reservations in Arizona voted like

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01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: Biden for Biden or whatever, which is super cool and

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01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: it's great that like the you know that folks on

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01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: those rests are like politically active. But I had a

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01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: lot of non natives just text me like the graphic

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Speaker 1: of like the Navajo res voting rates, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: I haven't talked to you in seven years, dude. Like

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01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: it's like cool that you know I'm Native and want

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01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: to share a native thing with me, but also it's

1202
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: weird that you haven't talked to me in ten years

1203
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: and this is your first reach out being like congrats, bro.

1204
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you don't. You don't have to reduce

1205
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: my entire identity down to this one thing, right right right,

1206
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: and if you're gonna do it, reduce it to Garfield

1207
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: like it's supposed to. Yeah, exactly, miles, where can people

1208
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: find you with tweet you've been enjoying check me out

1209
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And also

1210
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: the other show, four Twenty Day Fiance was Sophia Alexandra,

1211
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: if you like ninety day, come check that out. Uh.

1212
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: Some tweets are like first and from the Onion app,

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01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: the in says Roger Goodell increasingly worried NFL players at

1214
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: risk of gaining sentience. Uh, and his look is very concerned.

1215
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 1: And then another one from Tests of Violet at Tests

1216
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: of Violet tweeted what if the Internet closed two days

1217
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 1: a week? And I was like, yeah, I mean yeah, interesting. Yeah,

1218
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: let's see some tweets I've been enjoying. Kai Kai Choice tweeted,

1219
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 1: Dear Evan Hanson, can you buy us alcohol for prom

1220
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 1: the past thing of that? And Rob Catholic Dad for

1221
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: twenty I didn't realize that was their name, but they

1222
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: said Twitter right now kind of as the vibe of

1223
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: when they turned the lights off during an assembly and

1224
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: everyone starts making noises when Facebook was down like that.

1225
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: I thought that was appropriate. Also, that was such a

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01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: weird like response that happened every time. Yeah, where it's

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01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: like the lights turned off before everybody's eyes focused, everybody

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01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: like kind of makes noises because you can get away. Yeah,

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01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: but I gotta shout out my tweet Caitlin Jeffer as

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: you can follow her at jeffer not on Twitter. She's great.

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01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: There you go. And then another one about the time

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01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: during our history when Facebook was down two nights ago.

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01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: It was Corey parentheses Harvard graduate. I'm loving these Twitter names, tweeted.

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01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: Facebook is down, so I'm having to improvise, and then

1235
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: just text messages. Would you do today any crazy hiking adventures?

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01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: I would love to see some photos of you and

1237
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: the family hiking like smiley face, cry cry lap emoji. Um,

1238
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, who is this? It's me Corey. Facebook is

1239
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: down and I am dying to know what you're up

1240
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: to today. Please do not text me again. Next one

1241
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: from hello, are you having a baby anytime soon? What?

1242
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: Who is this? Corey? We went to high school together.

1243
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: Thumbs up emoji? How the hell did you get my number?

1244
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: And then finally he sent me a picture of the

1245
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 1: lasagna you made tonight sunglasses fire fire emoji? Who's this?

1246
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: How did you know? I made lasag lasagna? You always

1247
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: make lasagna on Monday nights like the hanglue sands. Love

1248
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: to see it highlight on my Monday. I'm calling the police.

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01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good. Yeah, you having a

1250
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: baby anytime? I'm just curious. Uh. You find me on

1251
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore Obrien. You can find us on

1252
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,799
Speaker 1: Twitter at Daily zeit Guys. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist

1253
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page on a

1254
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: website Daily zi Guys dot com, where we post our

1255
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 1: episodes on our foot notes or we link off to

1256
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as

1257
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

1258
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 1: what song are we sending people to go check out?

1259
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: This is a track from A. J. Radico and I'm

1260
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: just something you know that New New York vibe out there.

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01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: I think he's from Queens and I love the production.

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01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: It's kind of like very low fi samply. It sounds

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01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: like just really super crushed samples, but his flow is

1264
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: really dope on it. And this track is called Armor.

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