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Speaker 1: What two three parts down in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: fielding is loose football down in the one yard line?

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 1: That is the ultimate man.

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Speaker 3: We are underway.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of the Action Network NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I am Chris Raybond, joined by Action Network NFL analyst

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Speaker 2: NFL Director of Contact Ian Hart.

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Speaker 1: It what is going on you?

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Speaker 3: What's up? Chris? Just doing this offseason grind?

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Speaker 4: I kind of missed the real thing going on, but

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Speaker 4: it's been a while since we had the A f flown.

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Speaker 3: I almost bought an Arena League ticket the other day.

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Speaker 3: I might have to this weekend. We'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, No, I employed your dedication. I mean you

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Speaker 2: are on the A all off season, just grinding. You

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Speaker 2: have a bunch of I mean you've been grinding out

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Speaker 2: content at a crazy pace for the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: You have articles out on almost every team at this point.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 3: No days off, Chris?

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Speaker 4: That's right, We're I'm cranking through some of those fancy

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Speaker 4: relevant questions up until August. It's hitting out a bunch

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Speaker 4: of these players. And of course, I mean it's a

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Speaker 4: good compliment to all those awesome rankings. You the odds

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Speaker 4: Maker and Friedman are putting out and together we can

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Speaker 4: all just have you know, the best old fantasy football

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Speaker 4: preview we've ever seen, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my contribution to the rankings is really

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Speaker 2: just ranking Kyler Murray as high as possible.

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Speaker 1: That's really what I'm here for. But you know you're

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Speaker 1: looking good. You got a tan. I know the people

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Speaker 1: can't see you right now, but for.

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Speaker 2: Everyone listening, my guy has got a tan and authentic

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Speaker 2: can not just a spray on one. Black Jack Fletcher,

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Speaker 2: you know out here, we're gonna we have a good

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Speaker 2: episode today. We're gonna talk about something really important and

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Speaker 2: fantasy I think that everyone needs to pay attention to

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Speaker 2: year over year, which is play caller changes. I think

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Speaker 2: it's one of the most important things to pay attention to.

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Speaker 2: You can really get an edge, and we've seen just

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Speaker 2: in these last couple of years, some really huge shift

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Speaker 2: call change. I mean, you look at Mitchell Trubisky and

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Speaker 2: what he has done. You look at Jared Goff and

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Speaker 1: So we'll get into all of those.

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Speaker 2: Ian has a bunch of articles out right now in

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Speaker 2: the Action Network that kind of go into more detail

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Speaker 2: on those. He's got one in the history of new

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Speaker 2: head coaches, one on new play calls, and one of

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Speaker 2: even defensive coordinators. So we're gonna get to a bunch

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Speaker 2: of that, butlet's first let's get into some training camp news.

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Speaker 2: Sony Michelle hasn't been practicing. He's been kind of mia lately.

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Speaker 2: Rookie Damian Harris, third round pick for the Patriots, reportedly

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Speaker 2: had a very strong spring. Jeff Howe has reported that

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Speaker 2: he has a chance to earn a prominent role during

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Speaker 2: the season. Just thoughts on Harris, Michelle, and even James

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a little new info this morning. Apparently

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Speaker 4: Michelle had a nie scope. He's on track for camp,

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Speaker 4: but this is like the third thing we've had with

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Speaker 4: him in the last year in terms of right before

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Speaker 4: the draft, he was kind of diagnosed with a bone

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Speaker 4: and then we saw Bill Belichick go ahead and draft

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Speaker 4: another running back on Day two. And I know Michelle

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Speaker 4: crowded situation, but we do got to keep an eye

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Speaker 1: Stop getting off to Henderson in the Rams.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave that right where you put it,

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Speaker 2: But I totally agree. I mean, if there's a short

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Speaker 2: But there's also a chance he gets those you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe you're trying to round out your running back roster,

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Speaker 2: He confirmed that Williams is going to be their starter.

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Speaker 2: early would you draft Damian Williams.

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Speaker 4: I understand the hesitation on Damian Williams just in terms

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Speaker 4: of don't see a lot of running backs I've been

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Speaker 3: But there's not exactly a.

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Speaker 4: Better option for the Chiefs right now, and everything they're

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Speaker 4: So I'm not as high on Darman Thompson as apparently

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Speaker 4: really hard time believing in something too fantasy significant. Since

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Speaker 2: I totally agree with you on Williams. I think where

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Speaker 2: we disagree is Thompson. I think Thompson is a threat

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Speaker 2: His yards for target is among his yards for target

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Speaker 1: He's He's another one of those gadget guys that they use.

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Speaker 2: And I think if Williams were to go down, I

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Speaker 1: That's the mistake. I think.

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Speaker 1: They ran the ball more than pretty much.

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Speaker 4: I was about to say, it's funny how we're saying

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Speaker 4: he has that upside, man, because like you said, this

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Speaker 3: But I do think that there's a system for this

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Speaker 4: It's going to be camped because we already know he's

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Speaker 4: He's got Christian McCaffrey, DJ Moore, Curtis Samuel, all these

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Speaker 2: Though absolutely North turned it did a great job kind

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Speaker 1: He was a guy that they force fed the ball.

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Speaker 2: I mean he would get five six touches and playing

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Speaker 2: Ravens beat writer jeff Riebeck says tight end Mark Andrews

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Speaker 2: I know, in you know, ten man leagues, maybe you're

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Speaker 4: I'm still riding with Chris Herndon. He's got similar kind

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Speaker 4: I think Mark Andrews is a really good player. I'm

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Speaker 4: just worried about the target share. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I think there's kind of a high ceiling, low floor

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Speaker 1: Hey, he's not throwing the ball too well in cam

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Speaker 1: And this is a guy with major upside.

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Speaker 1: Even Mark Andrews is on that short list.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when I look at the Eagles, I just

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Speaker 3: It's a good problem for them to have them.

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Speaker 1: Ten to fifteen percent.

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Speaker 2: You know Earth is still going to be around that

442
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Speaker 2: twenty three to twenty five percent and you.

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Speaker 1: Still got al Sean Steed.

444
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think you know it's going to come

445
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Speaker 2: down to Goddard, a go Ar and those guys. And

446
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Speaker 2: I think at this point that you rather have got

447
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Speaker 2: it out there. So you know, a lot of a

448
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Speaker 2: lot of weapons.

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Speaker 1: And I'm very high in the Eagles offense. I mean,

450
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Speaker 1: as long as Wentz stays healthy.

451
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Speaker 2: Obviously, I think you know, the backup quarterback situation isn't

452
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Speaker 2: what it once was. But if went stays healthy, I

453
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Speaker 2: think this team is as good as could be, as

454
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Speaker 2: good as any team really in the NFL. So let's

455
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Speaker 2: get into the play call changes, though, because this is

456
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Speaker 2: what we really want to talk about, and we're gonna

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Speaker 2: start with Surprise Surprise, the team that I know, if

458
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Speaker 2: you've been listening to this pod, you know I love

459
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Speaker 2: I think you're you're you're probably on the same page.

460
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Speaker 2: The Arizona Cardinals go out and they hire former Texas

461
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Speaker 2: tech head coach With Kingsbury, who famously once said that hey,

462
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Speaker 2: if I had.

463
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Speaker 1: The number one pick in the draft, I would dress

464
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Well that happened. He's got Kyler.

465
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Speaker 2: He's also got some guy who wants to get a

466
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Speaker 2: thousand yards rushing and receiving in the same season. Hasn't

467
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Speaker 2: done it yet, but it's certainly capable. In David Johnson.

468
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Speaker 2: He's got a guy in Christian Kirk who had a

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Speaker 2: very underrated, i would say, rookie year in terms of

470
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Speaker 2: looking at his target share numbers, his air yard numbers,

471
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Speaker 2: his efficiency numbers, and then you got you had some

472
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Speaker 2: pretty good draft picks at these skilled positions. When you

473
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Speaker 2: talk about Andy Isabella and the volume he put up

474
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Speaker 2: with the minute man, and then you have Hakeem Butler,

475
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Speaker 2: who may thought could go a lot higher. Even Keyshawn Johnson,

476
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Speaker 2: who some say our NFL ready right now is NFL

477
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Speaker 2: ready right now. So how do you think Kingsbury affects

478
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Speaker 2: this cardinal offense which posted up the bottom five passer

479
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Speaker 2: rating over the last half decade with Sam Bradford and

480
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Speaker 2: Josh Rose last year.

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Speaker 3: There's just so many parallels between this offense.

482
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Speaker 4: You know what we saw in both Chicago and Los

483
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Speaker 4: Angeles over these last few years in terms of you

484
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Speaker 4: going from a pretty old I mean Steve Wilkes just

485
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Speaker 4: defensive minded head coach. Really, they just had no offensive

486
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 4: innovation on that really coaching staff last year and now

487
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Speaker 4: you're bringing, in arguably, you know, the guy that's going

488
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Speaker 4: to attempt to bring a full the first full fledged

489
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Speaker 4: air raid offense to the NFL, and I think it's

490
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Speaker 4: only going to mean good things for all these guys involved,

491
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Speaker 4: because the one kind of consistent thing we've seen with

492
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Speaker 4: a bunch of these new air raid offenses is they're

493
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Speaker 4: not afraid to distribute the ball around, and they're usually

494
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Speaker 4: doing it with three or four wide receivers on the

495
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Speaker 4: field at the same time, Sam with Baker Mayfield, Patrick Mahomes.

496
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Speaker 4: They're incredibly efficient, but you know, they're not necessarily pounding

497
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Speaker 4: fifteen targets the same guy all games. So I think

498
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Speaker 4: right now, I mean, you hit nail on the head

499
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Speaker 4: with the guy who we should be targeting. David Johnson.

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Speaker 4: His incredibly disappointing. You know, twenty eighteen season was still

501
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Speaker 4: a top ten season as far as fantasy was concerned,

502
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Speaker 4: and that was with him was running straight into the.

503
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Speaker 3: Middle of the line.

504
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Speaker 4: His snaps in the slot and out wide drop from

505
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Speaker 4: about eighteen to twenty percent range all the way down

506
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Speaker 4: to seven percent. Just criminal for someone that's as good

507
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Speaker 4: as a receiver as he is. And we do have

508
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Speaker 4: plenty of evidence of Kingsbury getting his running backs involved

509
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Speaker 4: in the passing game, so that one thousand yards receiving

510
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Speaker 4: I think is realistic for NFL dot corm's Graham Barfield,

511
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Speaker 4: Texas Tech running backs for tenth he called football and

512
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Speaker 4: receptions with four point eight per game during Kingsbury's last

513
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Speaker 4: three seasons great things on the horizon for DJ and yeah, man,

514
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Speaker 4: I'm investing in Christian Kirk more than any of these

515
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Speaker 4: other receivers. Got some nice reports this morning with Kingsbury's

516
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Speaker 4: saying Kirk was picking up the offense fast. He was

517
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Speaker 4: a lot of people don't know this. Kirk and Murray

518
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Speaker 4: were teammates at Texas A and M before Murray went

519
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Speaker 4: ahead and transferred to Oklahoma. So Kirk, I guess, kept

520
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Speaker 4: selling that air Raid playbook together that they had there

521
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Speaker 4: and one things they mentioned about him. He also showed

522
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Speaker 4: last season he can function inside and outside. I mean

523
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Speaker 4: almost A big knock on Kirk coming out of college

524
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 4: was some people thought he'd be a slot receiver, and

525
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Speaker 4: obviously his slot in Arizona still belongs to old man

526
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Speaker 4: Larry Fits. But Kirk proved plenty of times that he

527
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Speaker 4: can still play on the outside. So I think I'm

528
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Speaker 4: not quite sure how Isabella Butler of Keshaan, how these

529
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Speaker 4: other spots are going to break out. But I have

530
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Speaker 4: a really hard time believe in Kirk won't be on

531
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Speaker 4: the field for eighty percent snaps again.

532
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, I think Kirk is the favorite

533
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Speaker 2: to lead the team in targets, catches and yards.

534
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Speaker 1: And all that good stuff.

535
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Speaker 2: I think he's tailor made for the offense because at

536
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Speaker 2: this stage in his career, he can get more separation

537
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Speaker 2: than Larry Fitzgerald.

538
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Speaker 1: He can give you more after the catch than Larry Fitzgerald.

539
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Speaker 2: So I mean, he had a nineteen percent target chair,

540
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Speaker 2: twenty four percent airyard market chair, and a point nine

541
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Speaker 2: reception to airyard conversion ratio per airyards dot com. And

542
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Speaker 2: that was pretty much ranked above all the other rookie

543
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Speaker 2: receivers except DJ Moore in reception air yard conversion ratio.

544
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Speaker 2: And you know, he was a couple of catches behind

545
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Speaker 2: Larry and he was leading the team in the yards

546
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Speaker 2: when he went down in week thirteen. So I think

547
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Speaker 2: you know, wide receivers in year two, it used to

548
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Speaker 2: be year three. Year two now is the year you

549
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Speaker 2: really want to watch when these guys take a step forward,

550
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Speaker 2: they put it all together. I think this guy could

551
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Speaker 2: have a massive breakout. I'm taking him as kind of,

552
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Speaker 2: you know, a low end wide receiver too high and

553
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Speaker 2: wide receiver three kind of in that wide receiver twenty

554
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Speaker 2: five range a lot higher than most people.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sweating it at all.

556
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Speaker 2: I'm fully invested in Christian Kirk and this offense, and

557
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Speaker 2: I think there's pretty much everyone, every player connected to

558
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Speaker 2: this offense is undervalue in Fantasy at this point. Ian,

559
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Speaker 2: how high exactly? Because I think a lot of the

560
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Speaker 2: talk centers around Kyler Murray and just you know, how

561
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Speaker 2: high would you take him?

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Speaker 1: Would you take him as your as your QB one?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

564
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean right now, he's the QB ten ADP.

565
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Speaker 4: I take him ahead of Once, I take him ahead

566
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Speaker 4: of Drew Brees. I'm taking him ahead of these lower

567
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Speaker 4: end QB ones that we've seen do it before, but

568
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Speaker 4: they just don't have the rushing floor. And look, even

569
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Speaker 4: if Kyler struggles more than we think as a passer,

570
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Speaker 4: he's gonna be throwing it way more than what we saw.

571
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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson and these other dual threats kind of do

572
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Speaker 4: over the last few seasons. I mean Texas tech led

573
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Speaker 4: the FBS and snaps per game during Kingsbury's time there,

574
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Speaker 4: so they're gonna be on the field all the time.

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Speaker 4: Mentioned before, I was looking at the defenses, man like,

576
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Speaker 4: Cardinals defense is not gonna be good to start this

577
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Speaker 4: year because they're going from one of the most zone

578
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Speaker 4: heavy schemes from and heavy scheme and.

579
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Speaker 3: They don't have their all world cornerback to do it.

580
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Speaker 4: So, I mean, we got offense, I want to be

581
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Speaker 4: on the field a lot with a terrible defense.

582
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Speaker 3: I mean, it reminds me of the Chiefs last year. Honestly.

583
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Speaker 2: I mean I would go as far as to say

584
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Speaker 2: they gonna have like a Chip Kelly like effect where

585
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Speaker 2: this offense.

586
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Speaker 1: Just morphs into something ridiculous.

587
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Speaker 2: And that's I think that's the key with Murray is

588
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: that you're getting them as that quarterback ten. There is

589
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Speaker 2: about a four point per game difference between the quarterback

590
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Speaker 2: five and the quarterback twenty last year, and that tends

591
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Speaker 2: to be the case.

592
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Speaker 1: There's not much separating these guys. So if you see

593
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Speaker 1: a guy that you.

594
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Speaker 2: Can get, you know down there, you know, picked in

595
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Speaker 2: the eighth round and ninth round, tenth round that potentially

596
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Speaker 2: he could give you that, you know, top three, four

597
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Speaker 2: five quarterback.

598
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Speaker 1: Production, maybe even more than that, who knows. I think

599
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Speaker 1: you have to pull the trigger. So I like it.

600
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Speaker 2: And you know, again, if for example, you know, if

601
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Speaker 2: something happens to Kirk or Larry or whatever.

602
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Speaker 1: They have some deaths.

603
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Speaker 2: They have, but they have as a bell, they have

604
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Speaker 2: key Sewan, they have, you know, a couple of tight

605
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Speaker 2: ends that can catch the ball.

606
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Speaker 1: Rigge Sale Jones and Charles Play. Don't expect them to.

607
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Speaker 2: Be heavily involved, but if they need to be, those

608
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 2: guys can split out and catch the ball as well.

609
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: David Johnson talked about it can go for a thousand yards,

610
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Speaker 2: so lots like in Arizona. I think this is a

611
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Speaker 2: criminally underrated team. I think if you're sharp in fantasy,

612
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Speaker 2: you want to make a dance in your league, you

613
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Speaker 2: have a one to ten or one in twelve chance

614
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Speaker 2: of winning your league.

615
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Speaker 1: You're loading up on the Arizona Cardinals this year.

616
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Speaker 2: Let's move on to another team that you know, seems

617
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Speaker 2: to have a lot of upside.

618
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Speaker 1: But it's been it's been kind of it's been kind

619
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Speaker 1: of rough.

620
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Speaker 2: These last few years at times for the Green Bay

621
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Speaker 2: Packers Aaron Rodgers. You know, the touchdown interception numbers generally

622
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: are there. The yards per atten has not been eight

623
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Speaker 2: just hired former Rams and Titans offensive coordinator Matt Lafleur

624
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Speaker 2: to be the head coach. Mike McCarthy is no more.

625
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Speaker 2: How does this affect the Packers offense? Does this finally

626
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Speaker 2: return Aaron Rodgers to that a week quarterback one level

627
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Speaker 2: that he's kind of been, you know, on the outside

628
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Speaker 2: looking in over these past few years. And who do

629
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Speaker 2: you see stepping up behind DeVante Adams at pass catcher.

630
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting deal with the floor because he was

631
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Speaker 4: one of the hottest coaching candidates out there last year

632
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Speaker 4: after being mcvay's offensive coordinator during his first kind of

633
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 4: takeover year with the Rams. But as we know, I mean,

634
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 4: McVay was the one calling this place. So we don't

635
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 4: have really as long as a track record of success

636
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Speaker 4: from the Florida go off of if he went to

637
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Speaker 4: Tennessee last year, they were twenty seventh in points per game,

638
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Speaker 4: twenty six and years per play.

639
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Speaker 3: Can't put that all on him.

640
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Speaker 4: I mean, Marcus Mariota was having like velocity issues because

641
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 4: of nerve problems in his elbows early was week two

642
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: in the season, so kind of hard to do.

643
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Speaker 3: Much with that.

644
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Speaker 4: My biggest issue here is just that, I mean, the

645
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Speaker 4: Packers they kept their defensive coordinator, they really didn't make

646
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Speaker 4: many personnel changes.

647
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Speaker 3: To the offensive side of the ball.

648
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Speaker 4: I mean, they're putting all their eggs in this basket

649
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 4: that their new scheme is really going to fix all

650
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Speaker 4: these problems they had, and I'm just not positive Lafloor

651
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 4: as the guy to necessarily do that.

652
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Speaker 3: I mean, we saw him.

653
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Speaker 4: It took him to Week thirteen last season to realize

654
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Speaker 4: that the offense should be going through Dereck Henry and

655
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 4: not Deon Lewis, and we just automatically expect him to

656
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 4: put in Aaron Jones over Jamal Williams.

657
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Speaker 3: I hope that happens.

658
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 4: We all agree Aaron Jones is the better running back

659
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 4: and should be getting the touches, but I don't think

660
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Speaker 4: it's a guarantee. And then as far as the wide

661
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 4: receivers are going, he had Davante Adams. I mean, it

662
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 4: should be anyone's idea of a top three fantasy receiver

663
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 4: going this year, but it's still kind of question marks

664
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: behind him. I think Jeronimo Allison has to be the

665
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: favorite to pick up the slack as the number two

666
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 4: option of Ford's career. Justin jards for attempt with him

667
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: are really really good, and he was on a thousand

668
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: yard pace for the first four weeks of last season.

669
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 4: But after him, Marquez Valdis scantling, Epanemian Saint Brown not bad.

670
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: But I don't think we saw too much in the

671
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: rookie year to make you think a huge breakouts necessarily

672
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: on the way. So it's a I mean, Jimmy Graham's

673
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: still there too, maybe he could do something. So I'm

674
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: looking to invest in Davante, you know, if he's there

675
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 4: for me in the early picks when it makes sense,

676
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 4: and potentially Deronimo later. But I'm not convinced that we're

677
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: going to all of a sudden see Rogers more back

678
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 4: into kind of the literally most efficient quarterback of all

679
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 4: time this season.

680
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Aaron Rodgers.

681
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 2: You know, through through twenty fourteen, you know he was

682
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: pretty much putting up. You know, you could count him

683
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: high sevens low eights yard per attempt every year. Then

684
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen six point seven, twenty sixteen seven point three,

685
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen seven point zero, twenty eighteen seven point four.

686
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: The league average is seven point four, So he hasn't

687
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: been above the league average in five years, and that's

688
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: that's a problem. How much of it is due to McCarthy,

689
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: I think it could be a lot. I mean McCarthy

690
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: was notorious for kind of setting his guys up in

691
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: routes where they had to win one on one rather

692
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: than scheming them open, which is what you know, a

693
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: lot of the smarter teams are in the league are

694
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: doing nowadays. So I think, you know, Martell's Bennett, Marcedes Lewis,

695
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: both guys who played under McCarthy, came out.

696
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: And said that his scheme was really, really bad for

697
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: tight ends.

698
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 3: You know.

699
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: I think that that creates.

700
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: A little bit of intrigue for Jimmy Grant because I

701
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: don't think the yards are coming back, but I think

702
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: that his touchdowns could easily flipped from from like two

703
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 2: to ten just just playing with Aaron Rodgers. I think

704
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: Valdez Scantling is intriguing going into year two. I think

705
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: he's a guy who showed flashes could take a step forward.

706
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: I think Saint Brown as well, and I think it's

707
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: really is a toss up. I mean, I got Matthew

708
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: Berry kind of talked about how a Rod showed to

709
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: love to Jake Kumero, another receiver kind of buried on

710
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: the depth chart there. We've also heard positive reports about

711
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: Trevor Davis, but I think Valdez scant We probably the

712
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: guy to watch in terms of in terms of upside

713
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: relative to his average draft position at this point, but

714
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: in deep leigs, I mean, I think Rogers is not

715
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: the guy going after. I think I am still targeting,

716
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: trying to find some value in those pass catchers, and

717
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: maybe it is you know, waiting on tight end and

718
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: taking a shot on Jimmy Gramm. Let's go to the

719
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, another team huge upside. I think, you know,

720
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: head coach Freddie Kitchens expected to keep calling the plays,

721
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: but they added Bucks offensive coordinator Todd Munkin, who essentially

722
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: responsible for the rebirth of fitsmagic for you know, the

723
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: incredible numbers that really anybody who was quarterback for the

724
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: Bucks posted last year.

725
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean it didn't matter who they worried Winston.

726
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: I mean, Winston could get bench at the half and

727
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: he might have like two hundred and fifty yards, so

728
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield a tenth of the yard per attempt less

729
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: than Patrick Mahomes over the second half of two thousand

730
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: and eighteen. He didn't target Jarvis Landrd quite as much

731
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: as Tyrad Taylor was. He kind of spread the ball around.

732
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: How do you see his Browns offense shaking out? What

733
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: do you think the upside is for Mayfield and all

734
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: involved there?

735
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, that last point you may is I think

736
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 4: the only it's not even really a problem. Like the

737
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: Browns offense is gonna be awesome this year. But I

738
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 4: don't know if the I feel like one of Landry

739
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 4: Beckham and the DJOK who probably aren't going to get

740
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 4: the volume that they need to kind of be great

741
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: fancy assets. I'm pretty sure Beckham's not gonna be the

742
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 4: one that won't get enough volumes. So I don't feel

743
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: that that guy could be landing Because you said it, man.

744
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: After Kitchens took over last year, Mayfield did not target

745
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: a single receiver double digit times in any single game,

746
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: so he's more than happy to spread the ball around.

747
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 4: Part of me wants to think that that makes Antonio

748
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 4: Callaway a nice lay round value. That guy's got a

749
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: ton of speed, a lot of upside, But I mean,

750
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 4: we have seen Rashard Higgins kind of get a bunch

751
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: of good chemistry with Baker. I'm not convinced that Callowe

752
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: is going to run away with that number three wide

753
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: receiver role, but there's a lot of fantasy finding that's

754
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: going on this offense, and the Djoku should be the

755
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 4: main tight end.

756
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: They brought in Dimitrius Harris.

757
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 4: He has some ties over from Kansas City obviously, and

758
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 4: that type of offense being a backup to Kelsey, but

759
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 4: just gonna be a lot of spread the ball around.

760
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: It's gona be a really efficient offense. So I think,

761
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: similar to Philly, even if we don't have kind of

762
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: the best idea of how these targets are going to

763
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: be going around yet, it's still a situation one a

764
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: lot of exposure to. But who are you looking to?

765
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: Can do you think emerges as that kind of number

766
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 4: two most productive guy behind OBJ?

767
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: I think for value, I'm really looking at Najoku because

768
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: the way I look at it, I think the reason

769
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: Jarvis Landry quote unquote ruggles over that second half was

770
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: was not necessarily due to any fault of his own,

771
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: but just because he was that go to guy in

772
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: that offense, and Mayfield is so good that if the

773
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: defense is paying the most attention to a guy with Landry,

774
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: he can hit everybody else. I mean, he brought the

775
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: ghost of Brashad Perriman back. Now now that you know,

776
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: now we're talking about him as a potential you know,

777
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: starter in Tampa Bay.

778
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: You know he had we were.

779
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: Talking about Rashad Higgins is a potential starter really because

780
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: of Baker Mayfield at this point. And so I think

781
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: now now with Beckham there to kind of take the

782
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: pressure off Landry, Nijoku could potentially, on any given play

783
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: be the defense is third priority. And if you look

784
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: at a if you're looking for a guy who you

785
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: know at tight end, there's not too many guys that

786
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: are gonna be in that position to kind of lead

787
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: their team in targets or even get a lot of targets,

788
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: you know, outside of Kelsey or it's Kittle, So.

789
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: You're really looking for guys who are gonna be efficient.

790
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: I think Nijoko has the potential to be this year's

791
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: Ebron in the sense that he might not be the

792
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: most targeted guy, but he's gonna be with a a

793
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: really good quarterback and a really good offense where you

794
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: have to pay attention to some other.

795
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: Guys and he can easily score ten touchdowns.

796
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: So Najok, who's been a guy that I'm targeting it in,

797
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: Baker mayfoot himself. I mean you look at you know,

798
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: Beckham's going early, Chubb's going early, Landry's going before Baker.

799
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: Ni Jok who a lot of times goes before Baker.

800
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: So where's the value? I mean, I think it's on

801
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: Baker and in this situation, And I actually just posted

802
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: a tweet. I mean, I'm not probably ninety percent of

803
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: the time i'm drafting, I'm waiting on a quarterback. I'm

804
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: one of the last people, if not the last person

805
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: in my week to draft one. But if I draft

806
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: the quarterback early, Baker's usually the guys that I am targeting.

807
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: I think if anyone has that potential for a Mahomes

808
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: like season, you know, fifty touchdowns something like that, if

809
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: Beckham stays healthy, I think Baker's that guy.

810
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

811
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: I mean I've thought a little bit like are we

812
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 4: crowding the Cleveland Browns of all freaking teams too soon

813
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 4: with this?

814
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: But I don't see any world where this pass offense

815
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: isn't good.

816
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 4: I mean, perhaps the O line isn't as good as

817
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: we think, maybe the defense of the town doesn't come

818
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 4: together as much. But there is just way too much

819
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: talent around Mayfield not to put up numbers in the

820
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 4: passing game. So yeah, I'm with ik Baker has I

821
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: mean his floors. I think a low end even mid

822
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 4: tier QB one out worst case.

823
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing.

824
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: Like again, quarterback five, quarterback twenty about four points per game.

825
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: There's not much separating these guys. So yes, there's a

826
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: lot of value on waiting. But if you're not gonna wait,

827
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: you want to take a guy who has.

828
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: Other worldly upside like Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, he has great upside.

829
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: He's an elite quarterback in this league. But you look

830
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: at the situation around him, and then you look at

831
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: the situation around God like Mayfield, and you say, if

832
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: anyone could challenge Mahomes for that lead in touchdown passes,

833
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: that lead in yard my money's on Mayfield, maybe Angela,

834
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: but I mean Mayfield if they stay healthy, especially with munkin,

835
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: who I mean, you're putting up ridiculous numbers with what

836
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: a thirty what year old Ryan Fitzpatrick and Jamis Winston

837
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: who's in and out of the lineup, who's you know,

838
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: can barely stay in the field oft times. A guy

839
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: who's getting bench and he's still putting up QB high

840
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 2: end QB one numbers. I mean Mayfield again with Brashad

841
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: Perriman and these guys. You know, Higgins Callaway has major

842
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 2: upside every This is another offense. I mean, you don't

843
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 2: have much to lose kind of betting on a quarterback

844
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: in fantasy, because as long as you wait and you're

845
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: not like pulling a trigger at myhomes in the third round,

846
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: I think you're you're in a good spot. But I

847
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: think there's a couple offenses that could just separate from

848
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: the pack, and I think the Cleveland Browns are one

849
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 2: of them. Let's go to the offense that Monkin left

850
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, because we have a guy Bruce

851
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: arians is a pretty good track record himself of offensive production,

852
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: turnaround the career of Carson Palmer late in his career,

853
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: now inherits, Jamis Winston, no risk it, no biscuit they got,

854
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: you know, Deshaun's gone that He's kind of a proven

855
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 2: guy that inflates quarterback yard per tenth numbers.

856
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: So you know, Munkin's gone. D jacks is gone, But.

857
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: I mean you still got to feel pretty good about

858
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: Jamis and the guys that are there with Arians at

859
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: the hell though.

860
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Winston fits right into arians philosophy. Like

861
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 4: you said, no risk and no biscuit. All of Arion's

862
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: quarterback in Arizona finished as the top seven during their seasons.

863
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 4: Palmer's banged up a little bit, and average depth of

864
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: target Jamis has been top five in that every serieson

865
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 4: of his career, So Aaron's want to throw the ball downfield,

866
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: Jamis has never shown an issue with doing that as well.

867
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 4: And yeah, D Jackson is gone, but Chris Goblin is

868
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 4: someone that is good enough to immediately pick up that slack.

869
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: And I think the same goes for Oj Howard as well,

870
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 4: because now, I mean Adam Humphries quietly was commanding a

871
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 4: bunch of targets in that offense.

872
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 3: He's gone as well.

873
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 4: They now have better personnel, I think, to consistently throw

874
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: down the field and maybe complete some of these bigger

875
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 4: shop pleys they got for Shan Perriman, as you mentioned,

876
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 4: on the other side, competing for a starting job.

877
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 3: He's I think it could be more of a clear

878
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 3: out option.

879
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 4: I mean, a poor man's version of Smoky Brown from

880
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: what we saw and the old Cardinals offenses. But there's

881
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: just a ton of room for someone to emerge as

882
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 4: I don't think quite Larry Fitz level slot weapon as

883
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 4: we saw in Arizona, but one of Gobwin and Howard,

884
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 4: and honestly maybe both I think are going to emerge

885
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 4: as real, viable fantasy threats. And that's what I've be

886
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: mentioning Mike and so I think is a little bit

887
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 4: under value. I mean, this guy always done is rip

888
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 4: off a thousand yards every single season he's in the league.

889
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: You know, he's capable of being number one corners really

890
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 4: any day with just his size. I think he's going

891
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: to age pretty well because he's already not winning on

892
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 4: really separating anyway.

893
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: So it's a good offense.

894
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 4: I see the passing game having a bunch of success,

895
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 4: even if Jamis is still a little bit radic.

896
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: I guess the question is are you buying this Ronald

897
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: Jones type because right now there's not.

898
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 4: Really anyone else and Arion said, some really young players,

899
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: some really young players stepped up, especially Ronald Jones, and

900
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 4: until Duke Johnson has traded to Tampa Bay Man, I

901
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 4: think we got to tentatively right in Ronald Jones's starter.

902
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: The way I look at it in these kind of

903
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: situations is, I mean, we kind of know running backs

904
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: are replaceable, especially in a situation where you don't have

905
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: a stud like a David Johnson or something like that.

906
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: So the way I look at it is value. And

907
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: right now, all the hype is on Ronald Jones. He's going,

908
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: you know, thirty forty picks in some drafts before Peyton Barber.

909
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: Bruce Arians is a guy who, yeah he had all

910
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: those explosive offenses through downfield, but guess who he gave

911
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: like two hundred plus carries to a couple of times,

912
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: Rashard Mendenhall. You're telling me that Peyton Barber is not

913
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: better than like late career Rashard Mendenhall. I'm not so

914
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: sure the value right now is not just on Peyton Barber,

915
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: because we just don't know.

916
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: That's the bottom line.

917
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: So I actually think, you know, I think Jones could

918
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: emerge as that weed back.

919
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: I think that's not out of the question.

920
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 2: But given that we saw him slip up last year,

921
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 2: given what we've seen out of Arians that he's kind

922
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: of content.

923
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: To roll with a with a guy like like.

924
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: Rashard Mendenhall in the past, I think barber is actually

925
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: probably the value at this point. Now if they're EIGHTYPCE slipped, Yeah,

926
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: Jones is the value. But as as it stands, I mean,

927
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: it's it's it's not sexy. But I mean, when you're

928
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: drafting a running back, you know, after pick one hundred,

929
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily going to be sexy.

930
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: I like barbera right now. So that's where I'm at.

931
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean I'm with you. I think Godwin

932
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: and Howard both have major value. I think I mean

933
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: Howard probably, I think he has to be that the

934
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: tight end off the board after the top three year down,

935
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: after Kelsey kittle Ertz are gone, because I mean when

936
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: you look at him versus say, Evan Ingram, you know,

937
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: first of all, Ingram has an injury right now.

938
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Howard's coming off an injury too, But Ingram has

939
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: golden tate.

940
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: You know, these kind of reception gobblers, Golden tate, you

941
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 2: have Shephard.

942
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: You have Saquon Bark, You have all these guys that

943
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: you know, you.

944
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: Look up and sixty percent of the target share is

945
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: gone already, whereas in Tampa Bay it's like, yeah, you

946
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: have Mike Evans, He's probably gonna get about twenty five percent.

947
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: But after that, I mean, Godwin's there and it's Howard,

948
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: and I mean Howard could have a monster season. I

949
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: mean that upside is there for him. You know, we're

950
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: kind of projecting him as a guy who's gonna do

951
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: a little better than what he did last year, which

952
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: he was really consistent. But I mean there's a chance

953
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: that he just emerges as the guy even that we

954
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: think Godwin might be. So I love the upside, the

955
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: ceiling floor combination for oj Howard. I think he has

956
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: to be that fourth tight end off the board. And yeah,

957
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 2: I think that third even that third wide receiver spot,

958
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: given how prolific Aaron's offenses have been, is something to watch.

959
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: I think Rashan Perriman's in the mix. I think Scotti Miller,

960
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: the rookie.

961
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: Is in the mix as well, and he actually has

962
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: you know, he's kind of reminiscent of Smoky Brown who's

963
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: got a lot of targets his rookie year under Arions.

964
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Jets, Adam GASEE.

965
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: You know, the Jets just got a new GM, you know,

966
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: fired Mike mccannon, got Douglas in there, so we know

967
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: that maybe some of the roster is not exactly as

968
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: as Adam Gase wants. But I think his scope positions

969
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: are pretty set. You're gonna have Wa'veon Bell the workhorse

970
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: at running back. You're going to have Crowder in the

971
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: slot signing from the Redskins. You're going to have you know,

972
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: Robbie Anderson as that you know, kind of pseudo number

973
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: one slash downfield threat, and then Quincy and Nolan was

974
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: gonna have to kind of be more of a full

975
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: time outside guy than the guy you mentioned. Chris Herndon

976
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: really strong rookie year.

977
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of a wild card in this

978
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: whole situation.

979
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he could be anywhere from the fifth option

980
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: to leading the team in targets.

981
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: What do you think the effect of gas is on

982
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: this offense?

983
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: And where do you see the value because I mean

984
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: I think Bell was going in the first round, but

985
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: I mean everyone else in this offense, you can pretty

986
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: much he had at a very decent price.

987
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: So who do you like there?

988
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? I like all these players.

989
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 4: I feel so much better about the Jets if they

990
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: weren't led by Adam Gase and Greg Williams. I mean

991
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 4: that's before even looking at their front office and stuff

992
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: they've done over the last month or two. But it's

993
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 4: just hard for me to get behind any of these

994
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 4: guys too. Seriously, And Adam Gase offense, because look, first

995
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 4: of all, he was good with Denver when Peyton Manner

996
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 4: was running the show. Adam Gase offense averaged thirty two

997
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 4: points per game in Denver since then, only twenty points

998
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 4: per game with Ryan Tannehill and Jay Color. So yes,

999
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 4: I understand your two. Sam Darnold, it wouldn't be that

1000
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 4: shocking at all if he's much better than anything Tannehill

1001
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 4: or Cutler brought the table. But we just still haven't

1002
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 4: seen hardly any track writer of success from Gas without

1003
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning, and what we have seen is a very

1004
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 4: slow moving offense. Consistently, the Dolphins were bottom three in

1005
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: situation neutral pace in each of the last three seasons.

1006
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 4: I mean, we were talking about the Dolphins offense almost

1007
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 4: the same way these last two years. They got plenty

1008
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: of speed on the outside, they got these talented guys,

1009
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: it's just never quite comes together. And we never quite

1010
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 4: saw anyone get a large enough target share other than

1011
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 4: when Jarvis nanders is being force fed these kind of

1012
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 4: short targets down the middle of.

1013
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: The field all game.

1014
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 4: And I think that's what we can see here again

1015
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 4: where I'm not really convinced any of Robbie, Leveon, Crowder

1016
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 4: Herndon are gonna necessarily pull away from each other. I

1017
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: could see the whoever ends up leading this team in

1018
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: targets having maybe you know, barely over one hundred targets

1019
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 4: on the year and not necessarily even being a you know,

1020
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 4: high end wide receiver two or anything like that. So

1021
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 4: uh yeah, I think Leveon Bell in the first round,

1022
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: even if Adam Gase doesn't and you know said he

1023
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 4: wouldn't have probably paid him, I think he still got

1024
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: a roll with Bell. I he's just people won't give

1025
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: him enough credit for being a special receiver. I think

1026
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 4: his ability to work out of the slot and out

1027
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: wide is gonna help them get good matchups. I have

1028
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 4: a hard time believing he'll be off the field if

1029
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 4: he's not healthy. But after that, man, they're cheap enough

1030
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 4: to I don't mind taking shots on like Robbie and Herndon,

1031
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 4: especially in Best Ball, but I don't think the upside

1032
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 4: here is as high as it could have been with

1033
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 4: someone like Monk and run the show.

1034
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you know, I think Bell is the pick there.

1035
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's a new regime, so you never.

1036
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: Know with these with these guys who had a good

1037
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: year run like Herndon, I mean, he could build on that,

1038
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: or he could take a back seat. You know, you

1039
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: don't know if Anunla can make a living on the

1040
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: outside and not just in the slots kind of a glorified.

1041
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: Tight end playing receiver.

1042
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 2: You know, there probably was a reason why they pretty

1043
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: much only schemed him bubble Screams last year.

1044
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: I think Robbie Anderson is going a little bit too high.

1045
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 2: He tends to go in the top sixty five picks

1046
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: or so top seventy. I think that's a little too

1047
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: high for the uncertainty. I mean, he usually thrives when

1048
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: everyone else gets hurt, and he has like a four

1049
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: week stretch where he's the only guy and you know,

1050
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: being a guy that can catch the deep balls. He

1051
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: comes on strong, but I don't know if you can

1052
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: rely on him for a whole season, especially over some

1053
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: of the other guys that are going around his ADP.

1054
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: So I think it's a situation mostly that I'm avoiding.

1055
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: You know, I think the target share could shake out

1056
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: pretty evenly. Let's not forget the Jets defense was really poor,

1057
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: so you kind of hit on it. This could be

1058
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: a team in contentionent for the least amount of plays run.

1059
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: Because let's remember when Le'Veon Bell takes a handoff, he's

1060
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: waiting behind the line of scrimmage for like a couple.

1061
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: Of years before he even makes his cut. So I

1062
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: mean that only adds to the fact that this team could.

1063
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: Be a very kind of underwhelming team offensively volume wise.

1064
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 2: Let's run through some of the other changes in the league,

1065
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: not quite as high profile but should still have an

1066
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: impact in fantasy.

1067
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: Let's start in Denver.

1068
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,959
Speaker 2: Former forty nine ers QB coach Rick Scandereau will take

1069
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: over there.

1070
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: Who do you like for value on the Denver broncos Man?

1071
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: Not really anybody. I mean, it's funny situation with Scangarella.

1072
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 4: I mean he could be a great offensive mind. He's

1073
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: been working with Kyle Shanahan for the better part of

1074
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 4: the last half decade. There's certainly I mean, that's a

1075
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 4: great coach, spend a bunch of time around, but we

1076
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 4: don't have any evidence. Some calling plays and it's Joe

1077
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 4: Flacco under center. I think it's a downgrade from case Keenum.

1078
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 4: We haven't seen Flaco really provide anything above blow average

1079
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 4: play for the last five years, and I don't think

1080
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 4: it's just going to come to fruition this year with

1081
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 4: what's an incredibly unproven receiving corps. And if I thought

1082
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 4: there was some value, maybe Day Hamilton, probably not Cortland

1083
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: Sutton when we thought that Emmanuel Sanders might be out,

1084
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 4: but now he's out here running routes and looking like

1085
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 4: he could.

1086
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: I've got a pep list. I'm not I know, I

1087
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: remember you and Freeman I have on the list.

1088
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm aware.

1089
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 4: I'm not saying Manny Sanders, but if the guy's on

1090
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 4: the field, he's going to take from the other receivers.

1091
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: So and then Philip Lindsay he wasn't in practice and

1092
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: he's still recovering from a wrist injury. There's some talk

1093
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 4: that Royce Freeman's expanding his role as a receiver, but

1094
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 4: Devonte Booker is still there.

1095
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: The only guy in this offense.

1096
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 4: I think I have any real exposure to is no

1097
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 4: offense because I think there is a similar kind of

1098
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: rookie year Evan Ingrams scenario where it's a bad offense

1099
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 4: and they end up feeding their really athletic rookie tight

1100
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 4: end that has a bunch of receiving traits, and I

1101
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 4: think fans good enough to potentially do something with it.

1102
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 4: We have seen Flacco, you know, fetus tight ends for

1103
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 4: better or for worse over the years. But I mean

1104
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: in an offense that I think we're probably projecting to

1105
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 4: be bottom ten in points per game just to stay

1106
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 4: away for the most part.

1107
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in these kind of offense, I just look

1108
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: to the guys who I think have the most talent.

1109
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: I think that's Lindsay, but he's still kind of going

1110
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: a little too high for me. And then yeah, Deshaun Hamilton,

1111
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: I think it probably has a good chance to lead

1112
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: that wide receiver corps. And then it's just how good

1113
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: is fan in your one? Tight Ends usually take a year.

1114
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: Ingram didn't, So that's definitely a distinct possibility. I think

1115
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 2: you could do worse as your T two in best ball.

1116
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions hired former Seahawks offensive coordinator Darryl Devil,

1117
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: the guy who did not handleble Tomashawn Lynch at the

1118
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: one yard line, but yet is known for running the football.

1119
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: They fired Jim Bob Couter, who did have some previous

1120
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: success with Matt Stafford two last year when everyone got

1121
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: hurt pretty much, they did say, you know, I think

1122
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: a lot of times we see these signings and we

1123
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: tend to get way two down on them. I think

1124
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 2: that happened with Schottenheimer last year for the Seahawks, where

1125
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: everyone just wrote them off immediately. I mean, there are

1126
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: you know, some positives to the Bevil signing. I mean

1127
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: they talked about, Okay, he's a guy who they're going

1128
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: to tailor their game plans more to specific opponents, which

1129
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: I think is something I mean.

1130
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: Why are you not doing that?

1131
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 3: So?

1132
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, you know, Jim Bob Cooter, we

1133
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: always gave him a lot of props for what he

1134
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: was able to do.

1135
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: But I mean if he wasn't doing that, I mean

1136
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: that's just stubborn. I mean, come on. It's twenty nineteen.

1137
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: You have so much data if you're just running the

1138
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: same thing out there every week, no matter you're saying,

1139
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: this is who we are.

1140
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, bro. So you know that's the

1141
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: upside of bubble.

1142
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: But the downside is again he was a guy who

1143
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: did not hand the vote on Marshall Lynch, even though

1144
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: he's known.

1145
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: As a running a guy. How does this affect, you.

1146
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: Know, the value for the Lions. You know, you used

1147
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: to have Marvin Jones coming back. You have Hockinson in

1148
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: the mix at tight end now and you have carry

1149
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: On Johnson and you have Theo Riddick, who you know,

1150
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 2: some people even say could be a surprise cut.

1151
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we got now C.

1152
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 4: J Anderston's gonna be like a rich man's version of REBERA.

1153
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 4: Lagarrett Blunt was last year. So again Bevelle has run

1154
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 4: the ball time. So I do think you gotta be

1155
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: a little bit higher on carry On Johnson. It would

1156
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: have been last year. I mean, I'm sorry, it would

1157
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: have been if Jim Bob Couter was still there. I mean, look,

1158
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 4: Detroit ranked thirtieth, thirty, first, thirty first and eighteenth in Russia.

1159
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: Townsper game with Jim Bob Couter. They also got rid

1160
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 4: of Golden Tate and replaced I mean last season, and

1161
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 4: then replaced him with Danny Amndola. So I don't think

1162
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 4: we're gonna see nearly the same emphasis. I'm kind of

1163
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 4: short passes as we've seen over the past few years.

1164
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 4: But with that said, why is Kenny Galladay going what

1165
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 4: twenty five? He's the wide receiver eighteen, I think, and

1166
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 4: Marvin Jones is the wide receiver forty three. I mean,

1167
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 4: I think Galladay is probably a little better than Marvin,

1168
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 4: but I could see them having very similar target numbers

1169
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: in an offense that seems like they're gonna want to

1170
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 4: take some deep chances. So I think Marvin Jones, even

1171
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: if he's not gonna be the true wide receiver wanting Detroit,

1172
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 4: could you could have pretty similar numbers to Galladay. I

1173
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 4: think that disparity between the ranking is way too big

1174
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 4: right now.

1175
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's what I call arbitrage, And I think I

1176
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 2: want to write an article on this because, especially in June,

1177
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: June July, you see these ADPs where they're just kind

1178
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 2: of out of whack, where it's like you see a

1179
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: lot of running back to where it's like, Okay, you know,

1180
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: Jordan Arwro will be going like ninety seventh and Miles

1181
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: Sanders sixty first, so like Montgomery forty eighth and Mike

1182
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: Davis like one hundred and eightieth. It's like, it's like,

1183
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: these guys aren't that far apart guys, And you know,

1184
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: I do agree. I think Marvin Jones and Galli are

1185
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: They're gonna have similar roles. They're gonna run, They're gonna

1186
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: go downfield, and when Detroit, you know, decides they want

1187
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: to throw the football, Safford is gonna be looking at

1188
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: one of those guys that I mean, Jones could easily

1189
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 2: outproduce Galladay. And that's not a knock on Gallada because

1190
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: I think he's a talented guy. But you know, we

1191
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: kind of saw what he's capable of last year and

1192
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: it's a lot. It's gonna be easier for him when

1193
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: there's guys healthy around that can catch the ball too.

1194
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: But if the team wants to run more mean, that

1195
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: kind of knocks some of the upside down. So yeah,

1196
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 2: this is an offense that that I really.

1197
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: Don't want too much of.

1198
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: Outside of carry on Johnson, Let's go to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1199
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 2: We have former Eagles quarterbacks coach and Vikings offensive coordinator

1200
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: John d Filippo taken over there with.

1201
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: The player call.

1202
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: We have Nick Foles, and we have a bunch of

1203
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 2: question marks at wide receiver, but we still have Lennon

1204
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: Fournette at running back.

1205
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: Also have a lot of question marks at tight end.

1206
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 2: So any any upside with this Jaguars offense, I guess

1207
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: start with Fournette and then then anybody else you're looking at.

1208
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for naturally the only guy here.

1209
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: It's it's tough to know really what they're gonna do

1210
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 4: because obviously de Filippo he got fired Week four team

1211
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: last season with the Vikings in part because I think

1212
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: of just how pass heavy he was. I mean, they

1213
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 4: were fourth in pass play, right, weren't. And once he

1214
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 4: got fired, we really saw them start to feed the

1215
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 4: ball at Dalvin Cook and embrace kind of different direction.

1216
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I'm not convinced he's coming

1217
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: into a Jaguars team that is really built to run

1218
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 4: the ball, and I think wants to run the ball

1219
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 4: with Maroon still as their head coach, and four Nette's

1220
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 4: the guy to do that and quietly. You know they're

1221
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 4: missing a ton of carries last year from TJ Yelden

1222
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 4: be announced, so there's more enough room before neck and

1223
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 4: stay healthy to potentially get back on track because I

1224
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 4: don't know what receiver they're going to potentially feature, which

1225
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 4: one he would want to try to pick to lead it,

1226
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 4: because we got d D. Westbrook, last year's number one.

1227
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 4: Marquise Lee is supposed to be coming back from injury

1228
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: at some point. DJ Chark was a Day two pick

1229
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 4: last year. Some people like Heal and Cole, I'm not

1230
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 4: really one of them, but hey, Chris Conley from Kansas

1231
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 4: City's obviously a bit of an athletic freak. Deephenterrell Pryor

1232
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 4: back from the grave is hanging out in Jacksonville at

1233
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: least for the time being. So I mean, I'm not

1234
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 4: ready to say Nick Fole is going to morph into

1235
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: Super Bowl playoff Nick Foles just because he got his

1236
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 4: quarterback coach back. But the situation I think could potentially

1237
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 4: to get a little bit of better a line help.

1238
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 4: It could put four net back on track.

1239
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: My prediction is top three Jaguars and receptions d D.

1240
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: Westbrook number one, Leonard four Nette number two, Josh Oliver

1241
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: and the rookie tight end number three.

1242
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: That's all I'm going to say about that. Let's go

1243
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins.

1244
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: Patriots wide receiver coach Chad oh Shade taking over there,

1245
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: call him plays.

1246
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: Of course, Brian Flores, former Patriot, is the head coach.

1247
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: Anything here.

1248
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 2: I mean, we hear some good things about DeVante Parker.

1249
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: This is a new regime, y'all, to have Mike Giseki

1250
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 2: kind of shape trying to you know, turn around after

1251
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: that dismal rookie season. And of course, I guess the

1252
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 2: best player talent wise it is still Kenyan Drake. Albert

1253
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 2: Wilson came on, but you know he's recovering from an injury.

1254
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: Where is the value in Miami if anywhere?

1255
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 4: So Shape was the Patriots wide receiver coach from two

1256
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 4: thousand and nine to twenty eighteen. I mean, he was

1257
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 4: there for the entirety of Gronk's career. So if there's

1258
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 4: one guy in his planet that should know how to

1259
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 4: utilize fregously athletic tight ends.

1260
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 3: It should be O'Shea.

1261
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 4: So I'm I mean, I'm Joseki has a real good

1262
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 4: chance of bouncing back this year and He's another guy

1263
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: that's just pretty much free at this point at the

1264
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 4: end of draft. So, I mean there's a world where

1265
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 4: I think Joseki could compete for the team leading targets

1266
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 4: because of all these wide receivers they have that are

1267
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 4: pretty much jumbled up. I mean we've had the may

1268
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 4: DeVante Parker Yearly hype trained run through again, Fitzpatristoneham. They

1269
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 4: look passes and practice and everything. That's all fine and dandy,

1270
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 4: but I mean we've been down that road, and like

1271
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 4: you said, Albert Wilson, plenty of town is own right.

1272
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 4: Kenny Stills apparently has a slot job. So I don't

1273
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 4: know what to make of the wide receivers that's all drumbled,

1274
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 4: But I do know Joessekee is talented enough to I

1275
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 4: think carve out a major role here. And Kenyan Drake too.

1276
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen the Patriots use three four running

1277
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 4: backs over the years. The Dolphins drilling I have two

1278
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 4: right now is Kenyan Drake and Kylen Balach. I'n seen

1279
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 4: Drake theoretically getting a James White esque role with a

1280
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 4: heavier rushing workload. I mean it's gonna be on a

1281
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 4: much worse offense. Than the Patriots, So we got to

1282
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 4: keep that in mind.

1283
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

1284
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 4: I mean, the Dolphins and the Cardinals have the two

1285
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 4: worst win totals in the league right now.

1286
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: Uh, definitely.

1287
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 4: You know, we're all we're all on board of the

1288
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 4: Cardinals having an entertaining offense was still being bad. I

1289
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 4: think the Dolphins got a little bit of that capability

1290
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 4: if Fitzpatrick can keep the magic going for another year.

1291
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 4: Also not a guarantee, but at the very least, I

1292
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 4: think the Dolphins would give us some a few more

1293
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 4: splash weeks than I think it might be anticipating.

1294
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Kenyan Drake is a pretty good best

1295
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: ball pick in redraft. It's gonna be kind of tough

1296
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: maybe to know when to start in week to week.

1297
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: And I think Belage is actually a pretty decent value

1298
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: given the fact that since Flores was hired, he kind

1299
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 2: of never crowned Drake the starter, kind of said, hey,

1300
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 2: you know, Belage is in the mix for the starting job.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Dolphins a line.

1302
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: You know, they actually paved the way for pretty good

1303
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: numbers for their running backs. I mean Frank Gore, you know,

1304
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: he didn't score any touchdowns, but did pretty well in

1305
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 2: yards per carry, as did Drake, so I think Belage

1306
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 2: is a guy to watch if this offense is a

1307
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 2: little bit better unexpected, the lost could be one of

1308
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: those guys that's getting you know, ten to fifteen carries

1309
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 2: per game, and Drake could be featured in the receiving

1310
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: game because they don't really have much of So I mean,

1311
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: it is kind of an offense two monitor, but at

1312
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: this point it's mostly probably stay away outside of Drake

1313
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: and Gsecki. If you need a second tight end in

1314
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: deep weeks, we got a couple more we'll run through

1315
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Speaker 2: really quickly. The Falcons hired former Bucks head coach Dirk Cutter.

1316
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 1: Anything to note.

1317
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 4: There, just you shouldn't realize that coder Cutter was the

1318
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator in Atlanta with Matt Ryan from twenty twelve

1319
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 4: to twenty fourteen, so there's plenty.

1320
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 3: Of familiar familiarity there.

1321
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 4: Matt Ryan had the second best season of his career

1322
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 4: last year, statistically, behind only his amazing twenty sixteen MVP campaign,

1323
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 4: So I mean, I wouldn't expect them to try to

1324
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 4: change too much from last year because the offense was

1325
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 4: working really for the most part, except for the red

1326
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 4: zone with Steve Sarkisian so on his habits, so I

1327
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: think the big I mean Huilos to get his I

1328
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 4: think Ridley is talented enough to continue to put up

1329
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 4: a bunch of Fantasy points even if he's not gonna,

1330
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 4: you know, be getting over one hundred and twenty targets

1331
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 4: or anything like that. I think the question is, could

1332
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 4: we see a resurgence from Devonte Freeman because Tevin's gone.

1333
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 4: I like Ido Smith, but it could be more of

1334
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 4: a seventy to thirty split. I think than may what

1335
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 4: we greup than what we see in the past. And

1336
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 4: Freeman is healthy for the time being, so I think

1337
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 4: he is. I think it's ADP's even now a little

1338
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 4: bit than where it was a little bit earlier in

1339
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 4: the offseason.

1340
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: But I think Freeman might have some value.

1341
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely.

1342
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 2: I mean he's in a spot where if he's gonna

1343
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: be used heavily, even if it's not you know that

1344
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: seventy thirty.

1345
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna be using the red zone.

1346
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: And this Falcons team is a team that even if

1347
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 2: they didn't really score there, they're definitely keeping of getting there.

1348
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: And I think I think Freedman will get the ball

1349
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 2: quite a lot in there, so I like his value.

1350
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: The Bengals hired former Rams quarterback coach Zach Taylor, no

1351
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,479
Speaker 2: experience calling plays, but the Bengals did average twenty seven

1352
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: point six point per game in which one through eight

1353
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: last season, which was tenth in the weeks.

1354
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: You have Joe Mixon, you have aj Green. How are

1355
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: feeling about.

1356
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: Tyler Boyd, Tyre Eiford some of these kind of fringe

1357
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: guys in this offense, because I think Green and mixing

1358
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: value is pretty much in trench at this point.

1359
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not too high on Tyler Boyd.

1360
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 4: I just think some of these other wide receiver twos,

1361
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 4: your Mike Williams, your Calvin Ridley's are objectively better, and

1362
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 4: I think I'm going to invest more in those guys.

1363
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 4: But don't sleep on his Bengals offense as a whole.

1364
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 4: I mean him and Eifford. If Iford's able to stay

1365
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 4: on the field, which is always the question there.

1366
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 3: But there's talent here.

1367
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 4: And like you said, I mean, twenty seven point six

1368
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 4: points per game first eight weeks last season.

1369
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 3: It wasn't until.

1370
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 4: Really Green got hurt Dalton got hurt that the offense

1371
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,959
Speaker 4: fell apart. I mean, there's talent here, and the big

1372
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 4: thing I think we could see this year is to

1373
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: get Joe Mixon more involved as a receiver. I mean, again,

1374
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 4: Taylor wasn't calling the plays in LA. But one of

1375
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 4: the big trends that McVeigh brought to the Rams was

1376
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 4: to get Girdly more involved as receiver.

1377
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 3: Hearing from eighty.

1378
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 4: Four targets from twenty fifteen twenty sixteen to one hundred

1379
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 4: and sixty eight in twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen. Mixing's

1380
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 4: only had eighty nine targets his first two years in

1381
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 4: the league. I mean, we saw him split out of Oklahoma.

1382
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 4: The guy is truly a gifted receiver. So I think

1383
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 4: we can see mix and really get that three down

1384
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 4: workload that's alerted him over the first two years of

1385
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 4: his career.

1386
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I'm not totally sold on Boyd.

1387
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: He did he really did step up last year, so

1388
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 2: I'm actually he's kind of one of those guys.

1389
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: It's just hard to know at this point.

1390
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: I'm kind of interested to see how his camp go

1391
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: is and everything like that. But I agree, I think

1392
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: Mixing is the upside play here, and we also have

1393
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: for the Cowboys. Former TV coach and backup quarterback Kevin

1394
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: Moore gonna step in. Darren Rowski's quoted is saying, you know,

1395
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be an offense that's like Sean

1396
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: McVay married with Matt Naggy married with Mike Leash.

1397
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: That's a lot of marriages. Is anything really gonna change?

1398
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: I mean, all that seems to be, you know, changing

1399
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys offense is that it's a little more crowded.

1400
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: You have Randall Cobbin there at the pot, you have

1401
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: Jason Whitten.

1402
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: At tight end.

1403
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: You have the Draftic Pollard, who's a guy who could

1404
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: you know, serve in Tavon Austin road that Taven Austin

1405
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: never really served in. So how do you see anything

1406
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: changing with the Kellen Moore calling the place for now?

1407
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, initially I didn't really expect much to change because

1408
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 4: this is it seems to be for once, like Jason

1409
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 4: Garrett's hot seat year. If they don't make the playoffs

1410
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 4: as a good chance, I think he's fired and they

1411
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 4: try to go a different direction. But everything's pointing towards

1412
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 4: Kellen Moore having complete control of this offense. You know

1413
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 4: from reports inside of OTAs and all that, and you

1414
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 4: know of Losky and these guys have had good things

1415
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 4: to say about Kellen Moore. We've never seen it, so

1416
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 4: it's kind of off season coach speak doing get two

1417
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 4: carried away. But obviously gott to be excited about those marriages.

1418
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 4: He was bringing up a little bit, and the differences

1419
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 4: they were talking about OTAs was just a higher emphasis

1420
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 4: on deep balls, trying to stress the field more, and

1421
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott quietly him and Russell Wilson have been the

1422
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: two highest rated quarterbacks on deep ball passes over the

1423
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 4: last three years. Neither of them has really attempted many

1424
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 4: deep ball passes. That's been the only problem. So obviously,

1425
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 4: you know, you can't always guarantee efficiency will stay the

1426
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: same with an increase in volume. But like you said,

1427
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 4: more talented offense, and they've kind of had at the

1428
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 4: receiver here in recent history. I think Zeke and Cooper

1429
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 4: obviously locked in as number one number two options, but

1430
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 4: I think the offense the hole could just take a

1431
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 4: step forward with some more creative play calling. And don't

1432
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 4: forget all pro center Travis Fredericks should be back for

1433
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 4: training camp, and even you know, Jason Winn isn't going

1434
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 4: to go in and just be a huge difference maker,

1435
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 4: I don't think. But he's probably about the same speed

1436
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 4: he is now as he was in twenty eleven, and

1437
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 4: he always did provide a solid red zone target and

1438
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 4: that was really where the Cowboys struggled last year, was

1439
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 4: in the red zone to kind of convert some of

1440
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 4: those drives in the touchdowns. So even if Wedding can

1441
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 4: just help in that area of the field, I think

1442
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 4: that could be a net win for them. So, I mean,

1443
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 4: Eagles offense looking really good, but this Cowboys office I

1444
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:40,479
Speaker 4: think can.

1445
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: Still threaten him a little bit.

1446
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 4: In NFC behind them, it's a train wreck, but no'll

1447
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 4: be interesting to see how these two rivals battled this year.

1448
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just quickly, where are you on Zeke?

1449
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: Because I think, you know, Ben Gretch made a point

1450
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: that it's kind of tough to predict Zeke's targets this

1451
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: year because you know, he kind of took a major

1452
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: step forward in that area last season. But now you

1453
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: have more you know, short area guys Cobb and Witt

1454
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: and I mean, I know Kobe's you know, left and

1455
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: tob is kind of replacing him.

1456
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: But you know, do you do you?

1457
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,959
Speaker 2: You know powers also there? Now do you see any

1458
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: kind of regression in that? And where are you and Zeke?

1459
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: Is you know Zebras sa Quon, ze versus McCaffrey. Is

1460
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: he a top two pick, top three pick for you?

1461
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: Zeke's my RB three right now.

1462
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 4: I think it's fair to have the target concerns and

1463
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 4: we still got this, you know, we'll see what happens

1464
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 4: about this off field investigation of Zeke's.

1465
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 3: They called a shove. I think he kind of bumped

1466
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 3: into the guy.

1467
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 4: But that whole situation still has to play itself out

1468
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 4: as well. So yeah, I mean it's could definitely. I mean,

1469
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 4: Zeke's targets with him without Witting, it's a huge split.

1470
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 4: With that said, I mean, I don't think they want

1471
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 4: to give up too many of Zeke's targets to old

1472
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 4: man Witting, so it wouldn't make too much sense to

1473
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 4: do that.

1474
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, Pollard's gonna be in there. He's getting involved

1475
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 3: as well.

1476
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, those Zekes led the

1477
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 4: NFL in rushing yards for game each of the last

1478
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 4: three years. They want to get him twenty plus touches

1479
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 4: a game out and we'll continue to see that regardless

1480
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 4: of if his target share ticks down.

1481
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it really comes down to what

1482
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: their plans are as as far as his co track,

1483
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: because if they plan to extend them and give them

1484
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: a huge deal, then you probably want to kind of

1485
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: conserve them a little bit, and maybe you do that

1486
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: in the past and game, Whereas if you're just planning

1487
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: and with to run them to the wheels fall off,

1488
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: then I don't think it matters as much. So I'm

1489
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: with you that I think that the risk kind of

1490
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: knocks him down from that top spot, which I think

1491
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 2: he had a good argument to go over Saquon if

1492
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: everything was fine, just because that offense probably better than

1493
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 2: the Giants offense. But giving all the kind of risks

1494
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: and concerns, I think you have to knock them down

1495
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 2: a bit.

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Speaker 1: That does it.

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Speaker 2: For our episode on the Action Network NFL podcast, Ian Harditz,

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Speaker 2: tell the listeners where they can find.

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Speaker 4: I'll be tweeting out again Fantasy relevant questions throughout the

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Speaker 4: rest of the off season and anything else that comes

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