Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. I would have pleased Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Behind now um the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. I'm Dan Hansas. I'm joined by
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler and boys, this is the
Speaker 1: flagship show. We're gonna be talking about Sunday of week seven,
Speaker 1: or as it will be forever known, going forward, Duck
Speaker 1: and Cover Sunday, hit it danger. He did what we
Speaker 1: all do. Oh yes, six games today decided by at
Speaker 1: least twenty two points, tying an NFL record. We got
Speaker 1: two more to goes. We're taping this, Greggy. It's stuck
Speaker 1: in Cover Sunday. It's been branded. It can only go forward.
Speaker 1: Did you know that song beforehand? Or that was found it?
Speaker 1: Because when I think one team like destroying another in
Speaker 1: a football game, I don't know if that's like the
Speaker 1: musical accompaniment that fits. I mean, but we would say
Speaker 1: we have the rights to that song because it's from
Speaker 1: eighteen sixty one, so it's cross the one years. A
Speaker 1: lot of bad games, a lot of bad games. Today
Speaker 1: did a lot of bad games, and that that was
Speaker 1: how if it's crazy and to think about it, that's
Speaker 1: the Defense Department sending out um videos or films for
Speaker 1: children school children to watch in the early night UM
Speaker 1: to be aware that a nuclear bomb could come and
Speaker 1: and blow you up at any moment. But if you
Speaker 1: duck and cover. Here's the thing, we didn't have time
Speaker 1: to to duck and cover. We didn't see this coming. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe jets van saw this coming. No psy ops coming
Speaker 1: our way from the government as children. Yes, so this
Speaker 1: was a game, a day of gnarly blowouts, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to all of them. Because even though mark
Speaker 1: there were a lot of lop sided affairs and not
Speaker 1: much in the way of drama, we learned some things
Speaker 1: about teams good and bad that we will be able
Speaker 1: to take h we'll take out of it going forward.
Speaker 1: That's the like. First of all, I kind of maybe
Speaker 1: I'm different on this front a little bit because I've
Speaker 1: always liked like the occasional blowout and it's a it's
Speaker 1: it's a Sunday with a lot of statements by certain
Speaker 1: teams that I think felt a little disrespected, a little doubted,
Speaker 1: and they've basically told us correct, you're thinking about us right.
Speaker 1: In theory, you could have seen some of these coming
Speaker 1: because we had three of the biggest lines of the
Speaker 1: year all in one week. But two of these blowouts
Speaker 1: were from underdogs, you know, so no one, no one
Speaker 1: saw it coming, all right, So we got Nick Shook
Speaker 1: coming up, and unless you read my underdog's column in
Speaker 1: which two of them were predicted. But that's okay, Well
Speaker 1: one's reading that. Apparently I understand how this works. You
Speaker 1: had you also locked up against one of those, so
Speaker 1: that it's hard to try to take that. You're the message.
Speaker 1: It's hard to try to take credit for a thing
Speaker 1: you lock your I I did it correctly in one format, right,
Speaker 1: Well that's how you've ever gone for. You said, just
Speaker 1: give me one format correct, and you d this format. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it's get craps. And I don't know
Speaker 1: how craps works. I just wanted people. I'm astonished by it,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna put this thing here, here, here, here, here, here, here,
Speaker 1: just get it right. Give me one and I'll take that.
Speaker 1: It's the perfect column for you, because you're in the
Speaker 1: I have read the column. You don't pick upsets. You
Speaker 1: just say here are six games where there could be
Speaker 1: an upset. It's it's absolutely perfect, not even the second point.
Speaker 1: Anything that I've been correct and that that's great. All right,
Speaker 1: let's let's confusion. I can promise you. Let's get into
Speaker 1: the game starting with yes, a blowout. Be sure and
Speaker 1: remember what birth the Turtle just did, friends, because every
Speaker 1: one of us must remember to do the same thing.
Speaker 1: That's what this bill was all about. Duck and cover
Speaker 1: Burrow and the gut. On third and two, He'll look
Speaker 1: to pass, quick throw, slant cock bye. Chase runs to
Speaker 1: the third pretty down the middle of the fielding away
Speaker 1: at thet tad touched. How great is Jamaar Chase two
Speaker 1: yards to house? Oh my goodness, even Bertha Turtle could
Speaker 1: not deny that Jamaar Chase is special, certified special. Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow through for a career high four hundred sixteen yards
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns, including yes, that eighty two yards strike
Speaker 1: to Jamaar Chase, who shed some tackles. It was off
Speaker 1: to the races. Huge play in the Bengals over the
Speaker 1: Ravens in Baltimore, the game in which they pulled away. Boys.
Speaker 1: It was a back and forth game and looked like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is this game of the day written all over it.
Speaker 1: For the first I'd say two and a half quarters,
Speaker 1: and then Cincinnati just found another gear. And that's what
Speaker 1: I took away from this game. It wasn't just about
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow being excellent or Jamaar Chase being transcendent. This
Speaker 1: was a total team effort, greg where the offense, passing game,
Speaker 1: the running game, the past protection, and the defense all
Speaker 1: showed up at the same time. And guess what Cincinnati
Speaker 1: now at five and two is tied with three North. WHOA.
Speaker 1: This is a statement game, the right to put up
Speaker 1: forty one points in Baltimore about a year after the
Speaker 1: Ravens embarrassed the Bengals. And I know the last year's
Speaker 1: Bengals were much different Bengals team, but Joe Burrow was
Speaker 1: there and they weren't ready. Zach Taylor was there and
Speaker 1: they weren't ready. And I just remember that game so
Speaker 1: well as as a total embarrassment and too too put
Speaker 1: up this many yards of offense five hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: on the Ravens a week after the Chargers struggled so much.
Speaker 1: I I did not think the Bengals offense had this
Speaker 1: in him. I thought they could, they could have a
Speaker 1: win in them, but I did not think they had
Speaker 1: a forty burger and five yards of offense. Hi they
Speaker 1: are one of the best big play offenses in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase by himself is like one of the best
Speaker 1: big play offenses in the NFL. They you could see
Speaker 1: it coming though, if you and I know that, you
Speaker 1: know you could chalk this up as nothing. But some
Speaker 1: of the like the actual super confident quotes coming from
Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase and others, and the weeks leading up to this,
Speaker 1: this is a different Bengals team. It starts with their
Speaker 1: defense as well. Trey Hendrickson has been a great signing
Speaker 1: for them and been on fire last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard on defense, They're really well coached and they
Speaker 1: just have explosive elements. I mean Jamar Chase, it's not
Speaker 1: just about Burrow and Jamar Chase, but two hundred and
Speaker 1: one yards off eight catches, he has a game changing
Speaker 1: deep pass and every one of his seven rookie performances.
Speaker 1: I mean, they just have elements they didn't have a
Speaker 1: year ago. And I think the Ravens, you know, this
Speaker 1: was a game where it makes me look at what
Speaker 1: happened against the Chargers last week with more bafflement because
Speaker 1: it's just such a week to week matchup type league.
Speaker 1: But they they are also a team that is very
Speaker 1: banged up. Their replacement running backs that we're getting a
Speaker 1: lot of praise did not show up today and it
Speaker 1: just you couldn't keep pace. At one point, the Bengals
Speaker 1: scored on six of seven drives. That's unheard of for
Speaker 1: for for something that's the Bengals fans has been have
Speaker 1: seen in recent year. Lamara Lamar looked like he wasn't bad,
Speaker 1: but Cincinnati clearly had him figured out a little bit
Speaker 1: in this game, and I thought it was interesting. There
Speaker 1: was a moment in the game, I believe it was
Speaker 1: after the Jamaar Chase touchdown where Cincinnati went back up
Speaker 1: and Baltimore sensed things slipping away and they had a
Speaker 1: fourth and one deep in their own territory and they
Speaker 1: called a Lamar run. He runs for the first down
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, they're gonna get going here. It
Speaker 1: was very hard to get those ten yards and we
Speaker 1: got it. They go four and out on the next
Speaker 1: four plays, turned the ball over uh deep in their
Speaker 1: own end and then Joe Mixon takes it into the
Speaker 1: end zone of the game's over and people are pouring
Speaker 1: at Mt. Bank Stadium. Uh so, you know, I just
Speaker 1: you know, we could talk about what's wrong with the
Speaker 1: Ravens and is this Are they a fluke and a mirrage?
Speaker 1: I don't think any of that isn't play. I still
Speaker 1: feel very good about Baltimore, but like, this is just
Speaker 1: the state of the NFL right now. Maybe it's always
Speaker 1: been this way, but it feels even more so this year.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're home or away. If one
Speaker 1: team comes ready to play and has a good game
Speaker 1: plan cooked up, you can get embarrassed in your own building.
Speaker 1: And it happened again in this game. And I think Chase,
Speaker 1: you talked about it great going into um this game,
Speaker 1: that Cincinnati's offense, right, you gotta spread it around so
Speaker 1: much for that, right, I don't know, And maybe you
Speaker 1: do because you need depth and you need guys to contribute.
Speaker 1: Injuries can hit at any time. But this Jamar Chase
Speaker 1: thing is turning into something special, Like we are looking
Speaker 1: at a guy. You have to me, you got to
Speaker 1: go back to Odell Beckham. And I know Justin Jefferson
Speaker 1: was awesome last year, but to me, you got to
Speaker 1: go back to Odell's first year with the Giants, when
Speaker 1: a guy took over the league and you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, what's happening here? Eight for two oh one. Uh,
Speaker 1: that breaks Speedy Time Muss franchise rookie record of a
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy seven yards receiving set in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 1: He is a one man wrecking crew. And his chemistry
Speaker 1: with Burrow, you know, obviously the L s U teammate thing.
Speaker 1: This has carried over and they are locked in together.
Speaker 1: I mean he has more than five hundred yards. Then
Speaker 1: the number two receiver on the team, which is Boyd,
Speaker 1: he has five hundred more yards in him. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's This is a historic rookie season so far. I'm
Speaker 1: not concerned about the Ravens long term, but I do
Speaker 1: think their run game in their defense has been mediocre
Speaker 1: mostly this year. Wasn't last week, and I was not
Speaker 1: sending their running backs praise last week. Personally it was
Speaker 1: their their offensive line did blow open some big holes
Speaker 1: against a really bad run defense. But this week, twelve
Speaker 1: carries for twenty one yards. They just don't have a
Speaker 1: running game other than Lamar Jackson that they can rely on.
Speaker 1: And the Ravens, even though the passing game is dynamic,
Speaker 1: they don't make sense to me if they don't have
Speaker 1: a running game. No, and they and Lamar was four
Speaker 1: for twelve with sixty seven yards win. A pressure was
Speaker 1: applied with five sacks and the Bengals did it right.
Speaker 1: Seventeen of thirty six dropbacks they applied pressure. Who had
Speaker 1: the Bengals five and two? I mean, nobody, you know
Speaker 1: that's the most sacks of Lamar Jackson's ever taken in
Speaker 1: a game. And Zach Taylor gave a game ball to
Speaker 1: the entire defense after the game. He gave a game
Speaker 1: ball to Lamar Jamari gave it a game ball, uh
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. And you know what we've never actually
Speaker 1: done on the show, I think, and this feels like
Speaker 1: the perfect time. Let's hear from Zach Taylor speaking to
Speaker 1: his team in the locker room after the biggest win
Speaker 1: of his career all season. And you guys saved it
Speaker 1: for a road game against the Baltimore Ravens. How about that?
Speaker 1: And then let's just wait. Listen, it's not gonna get
Speaker 1: us excited about Zach Taylor. I want to pitch. I
Speaker 1: want to pitch something here. We lost west in February.
Speaker 1: I know he had a complicated relationship with the Bengals,
Speaker 1: but he is since this is Cincinnati, this is an
Speaker 1: entire Westling family. It's getting excited behind the scenes since
Speaker 1: ani Bengals team of a t N who's coming with me?
Speaker 1: I'm in market. It's the Bengals. It's not like the
Speaker 1: Ravens of the Steelers. I mean, what owt bendable? Bendable?
Speaker 1: M I I mean I I I can enjoy what
Speaker 1: I'm walking for the Bengals today. This is different and
Speaker 1: and honestly like, I'm not, I'm not. This is not
Speaker 1: the Ravens. I'm not gonna give you attitude about it,
Speaker 1: but it's you know, I'll go with you, but I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like the person that's being brought along on
Speaker 1: a car trip with another family and I just have to,
Speaker 1: you know, so you are bendable. You can say no,
Speaker 1: it's I mean, but because it's because it's like twelve
Speaker 1: weeks of us arguing about it, I'll we haven't even
Speaker 1: a bad one for years at this point, so I
Speaker 1: see where you're going. I understand. It's funny when they
Speaker 1: when they play the Browns a couple of times. One
Speaker 1: question I was, who day, I mean, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: doing that? I mean, it just bothers me though that
Speaker 1: they do that and the Saints do that. It's just
Speaker 1: like that was the Saints thing. I don't even know
Speaker 1: who was first. I don't care they would do it. Well,
Speaker 1: it should matter who's first, what's well that might decide
Speaker 1: why it just bothers me. All right, find a day
Speaker 1: that we pick an a f C East team, as
Speaker 1: you know, team of a t L and never is
Speaker 1: the day this is, this is starting now I'm realizing
Speaker 1: that I'm annoyed by this. Just to let you know,
Speaker 1: Oh now, now we're learning that. As soon as I
Speaker 1: looked up and saw your eyes, I was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a bridge too far for one
Speaker 1: personal fair enough, fair enough, they won't be the team
Speaker 1: of a t N. Listeners, if you're upset about this,
Speaker 1: please at well no hold on the West West would
Speaker 1: never have signed up for the Browns as team of
Speaker 1: a TAL because we are a f C North foes,
Speaker 1: and I would have understood why he wouldn't. He wouldn't
Speaker 1: sign up for the Bengals as team of a T
Speaker 1: l that's the thing much that we did a strong
Speaker 1: couple of times we did. But what if West comes
Speaker 1: to you in a dream tonight and says, yes, I
Speaker 1: would do it, and I would do it in a second,
Speaker 1: all right. I don't think Western you control that too.
Speaker 1: I do not think West would be down with the dangles,
Speaker 1: this team of a ten. But I really wish you
Speaker 1: could have seen this team taken off right now, because
Speaker 1: that was he did love Joe Burrow, he believed, really did.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, all right, So one blowout interesting,
Speaker 1: but a blowout, let's move to another interesting blowout. That's
Speaker 1: why these children are practicing to duck and cover, just
Speaker 1: as you do in your school. Can cover Sunday. It's
Speaker 1: very dangerous. Since it may be used against us. We
Speaker 1: must get ready for it, just as we are ready
Speaker 1: for many other dangers that are around us all the time. Now,
Speaker 1: going in motion, Tannahill directly at Henry. He throws in
Speaker 1: the end zone fish right offen cat touch that Titans.
Speaker 1: The Titans go to the King Cat, and the King
Speaker 1: has thrown for a big six my keys with the
Speaker 1: call w g f X Derrick, Henry, what do you
Speaker 1: call the King Cat? The King Dog. What you just say,
Speaker 1: big dog? He calls him king kat like childcat, like wildcat.
Speaker 1: Off of his direct snatch, Derrick Henry's touchdown pass Tom
Speaker 1: gol Pruitt was the first of five consecutive scores to
Speaker 1: start the game by the Titans, who jumped out to
Speaker 1: a twenty seven nothing first athlete on the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: route to eight win. That changes a lot about how
Speaker 1: we should view the a f C from this point forward. Mark,
Speaker 1: lots of bad Chiefs talk here if we want to
Speaker 1: go there, and we will, but let's start with Titans.
Speaker 1: Good Tennessee has beaten both of January's a f C
Speaker 1: title game participants in the span of six days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I you know, I know that, you know, just
Speaker 1: from when I occasionally log onto Twitter. That is a
Speaker 1: pain in the butt sometimes. But um, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of annoyed Titans fans who think that me, you
Speaker 1: the rest do not have not given them the credit due.
Speaker 1: And I think we're allowed to have our opinions change
Speaker 1: on teams over the course of a fortnight, over the
Speaker 1: course of ten days. Look what they've on over the
Speaker 1: last ten days and today, you know, even when they
Speaker 1: beat Buffalo it is like you still have to go
Speaker 1: do it to the Chiefs to the point that you
Speaker 1: know Erica and Grave Digger. I'm sorry, but Greg and
Speaker 1: I locked up the Chiefs show of disrespect. So did Nick.
Speaker 1: It went very poorly, and you know what you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta eat it if you're one of us, because
Speaker 1: we were totally wrong. Who saw the Titans putting up
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy seven first half yards to sixty
Speaker 1: seven for the Chiefs owning the ball for twenty three
Speaker 1: plus minutes. The kind of game where if you're us
Speaker 1: and you're tracking it and you're not at a Tennessee
Speaker 1: or Nashville based sports bar, you can watch the second
Speaker 1: half with kind of a side eyed because all everything
Speaker 1: you need to know has happened. And it was to
Speaker 1: me a day where kind of everyone involved said, you
Speaker 1: have counted us out after that week one Arizona loss.
Speaker 1: Look at us now, Ryan Tannehill, who at one point
Speaker 1: was fourteen for sixteen with a hundred and ninety five
Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown. The game at that point was
Speaker 1: twenty four enough. It felt over a J. Brown, who
Speaker 1: won his um courageous battle with Chipotle. We don't know
Speaker 1: what was inside that Chipotle product. It's been um it's
Speaker 1: guestimated that it could have been old shrimp, um stale meat.
Speaker 1: But whatever, it's out of his system. At this point
Speaker 1: he was vegan. It could have it could have been
Speaker 1: something non meat related. It's possible, certainly possible. I would
Speaker 1: put that lower on the scale of probability, but it
Speaker 1: is possible. The Coole I or magic. This is a
Speaker 1: game also where the Titans were not healthy at for
Speaker 1: big chunks of time. Taylor Lawan is obviously out. Their
Speaker 1: backup Kendall Lamb at left tackle was in and out
Speaker 1: of the game. Roger Saffold, who is honestly one of
Speaker 1: the biggest people I've ever seen in my life at
Speaker 1: Lee the way the way he looked in his uniform
Speaker 1: today that it was like Roger Saffold eight Roger Saffold,
Speaker 1: and then that's what we saw. Ben Jones got hurt
Speaker 1: at one point. They're still dominating left and right, so
Speaker 1: he cloned himself and then ate the clone right. Unless
Speaker 1: there's another fan named Roger Staffold also, But I I
Speaker 1: would just say this wasn't a game where like last week,
Speaker 1: you just gave it to Derrick Henry and that was it.
Speaker 1: It was everyone else telling you we're also capable. This
Speaker 1: was an A j Brown game where he was totally dominant.
Speaker 1: Julio Jones made a couple big catches in their defense.
Speaker 1: Put it on the Chiefs. So we want to talk
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs, It was we will, we will talk
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs. Let's stick with the Titans for now.
Speaker 1: That sounds to me, uh, Greg like one of the
Speaker 1: most surprising developments of the year that the Chiefs not
Speaker 1: only all right, so their defense struggling. Not so surprising
Speaker 1: the offense though, going into the tunnel shutout, managing just
Speaker 1: three points. Patrick Mahomes getting bullied. Never would've seen that coming.
Speaker 1: I mean the Titans didn't score in the second half,
Speaker 1: am I right? Nope. The fact that the Chiefs scored
Speaker 1: three points in the second half when when they're down
Speaker 1: like that, to me, that spells out the difference of
Speaker 1: where they are right now versus where they've been in
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, because they worked really hard
Speaker 1: after halftime. They have a ten play drive, eight play drive,
Speaker 1: eight teen play drive, in seventeen play drive, and yet
Speaker 1: you can't hit enough any big plays. You get three
Speaker 1: points out of all of that work, one of them
Speaker 1: end's with you know, Mahomes out of the game, her
Speaker 1: Henny's in there and they fumble away that one too,
Speaker 1: not that it made any difference. That's the part that
Speaker 1: you have to start looking at what's going on offensively.
Speaker 1: And yes, the turnovers are somewhat flukey and shouldn't keep
Speaker 1: up this way all season, but the lack of well
Speaker 1: today's man did not look at flukey to me. The
Speaker 1: way that many have um there may be some prime
Speaker 1: in the first is like a tip pass. And so
Speaker 1: all I mean is that you don't expect them to
Speaker 1: turn the ball over at this rate for seventeen eighteen weeks,
Speaker 1: but they're not getting explosive plays. That's been pretty consistent,
Speaker 1: you know, other than last week in the second half,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey and Tyreek Hill did not exist in the
Speaker 1: first half of this game. Jerick McKinnon led the team
Speaker 1: at halftime with fifteen receiving yards. So that's very I
Speaker 1: didn't think the Titans defense added in him. But it's
Speaker 1: what Mike Rabel wants in terms of complimentary ball that
Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs really only had the ball three
Speaker 1: times in the first half. So you only had to
Speaker 1: get a couple stops, and they did it. Mahomes entered
Speaker 1: this season with a touchdown interception ratio of almost five
Speaker 1: to one. I mean, he's been the greatest quarterback ever
Speaker 1: statistically to begin his career to so to see him
Speaker 1: and it's not just him, but he bears blame with
Speaker 1: us to the pressing of the offense and how the
Speaker 1: turnovers are just piled up. And I think a lot
Speaker 1: of us who have put our faith in Mahomes and
Speaker 1: Andy Reid to get this figured out are left scratching
Speaker 1: our heads because every time you think that they get
Speaker 1: it figured out, like in the second half last week
Speaker 1: against Washington, said Okay, now they're gonna move past that,
Speaker 1: and then this happens and maybe next week they come
Speaker 1: out or whenever and they play a big game again,
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, but now I don't trust them now.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's something different this year from last.
Speaker 1: And uh, when you look at their their conference record,
Speaker 1: which is very bad. I believe it's one in four
Speaker 1: UM and you look at the teams ahead of them
Speaker 1: right now, it is gonna be tough for the Chiefs
Speaker 1: to get back to the playoffs. Where they are. I
Speaker 1: think their offensive line um presented more issues today. Kansas
Speaker 1: City Denico Autry, who wherever he goes, he's always showing
Speaker 1: up on film and not getting a lot of credit,
Speaker 1: was destructive today. And like it's Patrick Mahomes looking to
Speaker 1: me like other quarterbacks when they're under total darrest. Three
Speaker 1: and four is a very manageable situation though long term
Speaker 1: that said, it's just I'm just saying like three and
Speaker 1: four is very manageable in a seventeen game season to
Speaker 1: to bounce back from and make the playoffs and or
Speaker 1: win the a f C West. The The issue is you're,
Speaker 1: you know, stacking problems upon problems now, like people getting
Speaker 1: on Chris Jones for his effort. He's always been a guy,
Speaker 1: like a lot of defensive linemen to take a few
Speaker 1: plays off here and there. And so there was some
Speaker 1: questionable effort on a couple of the Henry runs. You
Speaker 1: got Frank Clark, who's really killing them in terms of
Speaker 1: not giving them value, um, you know, laughing on the
Speaker 1: sidelines and stuff. And this is where you do look
Speaker 1: at the fact that no team has ever made this.
Speaker 1: You know, it's very hard to make the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: three streight years. Um, when when was the last time
Speaker 1: that that that that a team made the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Street three stree years the Patriots, pat Patriots did once.
Speaker 1: They didn't win all three, but it is it is
Speaker 1: very hard to like keep snacking success, and it feels
Speaker 1: like they're feeling that right now. And they have a
Speaker 1: tough schedule ahead. They are not out of the woods here.
Speaker 1: They've played a really tough schedule. Five of their first
Speaker 1: seven opponents were playoff contenders, but three of the next
Speaker 1: four opponents Packers, Raiders, and Cowboys. So if they don't
Speaker 1: get it figured out internally, these games are going to
Speaker 1: continue to happen. Grave Digger, we gotta turn it over
Speaker 1: to you real quick before we move on, because I
Speaker 1: know they've won now, I believe five of six and
Speaker 1: a lot of people did not think to peg the
Speaker 1: Titans as a big time a f C team early
Speaker 1: in the season, and now it's hard to deny that
Speaker 1: they're in the mix and that one of the six
Speaker 1: is the Jets. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, I mean Mark
Speaker 1: was talking about how Titans fans want more respect, like,
Speaker 1: don't lose to the Jets and then you can have it.
Speaker 1: That would help and and keep coming with defensive performances
Speaker 1: like this. Harold Landry looks like a best He's up
Speaker 1: to seven and a half sack on the year now
Speaker 1: in a contract year, and he looks like the ed
Speaker 1: dresser that people thought he was going to be coming
Speaker 1: out of the draft. Took a few years, but here
Speaker 1: he is. Finally. It's crazy because they're so shorthanded in
Speaker 1: the secondary. Them holding Casey to three is is one
Speaker 1: of the surprising results of the year. The fact that
Speaker 1: in their last five quarters they've outscored the Bills in
Speaker 1: Chiefs thirty seven to three is wild. And the Titans
Speaker 1: came into this game having not scored on their opening
Speaker 1: drive eight straight games, which was the longest active streak
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And they came out in this game
Speaker 1: and marched right down the field and score on that
Speaker 1: Henry touchdown pass. That really set the tone I think
Speaker 1: for the whole game. Are we still going to get
Speaker 1: these um, you know, annoyed tweets from these people on
Speaker 1: the you know, according to West in the Midwest. I
Speaker 1: mean I see it as that Tennessee is not in
Speaker 1: the Midwest in my book, but annoyed people Titans fans.
Speaker 1: We talked a lot about the Titans today because they're
Speaker 1: a legit a f C contender. They are. There's so
Speaker 1: many there's and is it? It makes it fun? It field?
Speaker 1: And by the way, uh Ricky locked up the Ravens today.
Speaker 1: Does it feel better that the that Greg Mark and
Speaker 1: the Westling brothers all locked up against your team? That
Speaker 1: has to make it even sweeter. It was a little
Speaker 1: nice that. I remember we were walking out of here
Speaker 1: on Thursday and I said something like, I'm sorry about
Speaker 1: all you guys losing your lock. This kind of tongue
Speaker 1: in cheek not really hits the three Grave Diggers and
Speaker 1: then send us forward. You deserve it, Give us another
Speaker 1: one and give me one more. What a day hung
Speaker 1: out of cheek. Now, let's move car looks to the middle,
Speaker 1: Fires dry up in the end, Zen Park Foster moloof
Speaker 1: Jeff pot Penny Vegas touchdown, Brent Musburger of course of
Speaker 1: k R l V. Yes the Bacca bump, It's real.
Speaker 1: Derek Carr through for three three yards and list of
Speaker 1: this a thirty one of thirty four passing performance through
Speaker 1: a touchdown past The Raiders easily defeat the Eagles, thirty
Speaker 1: three to two. Um Vegas out gained Philadelphia fourty three
Speaker 1: to Vegas scored on five straight possessions after the first
Speaker 1: series ended with a car interception at the Eagles five
Speaker 1: yard line. Uh and Mark, the Raiders weathered an internal
Speaker 1: storm that would shipwreck other teams. But this team has
Speaker 1: played incredibly well in two weeks since John Gruden's resignation.
Speaker 1: Yes they have. And where as someone that you know
Speaker 1: had eyes on this game, I could give you a
Speaker 1: lot more details, but I'm very impressed with what I'm
Speaker 1: seeing from a I mean, you're a broadcaster. Just right
Speaker 1: is something and above the tree tous viewpoint. And then
Speaker 1: I'll go back my way. You know, this is how
Speaker 1: we do it. I have been plagued. I could ask questions.
Speaker 1: I will say one thing. I've been plagued with a
Speaker 1: non enjoyment of Derek Carr for a long time. I'm
Speaker 1: starting to that's starting to change. He reminds me of
Speaker 1: Rich Gannon the year they went to the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with Gruden. They kept in that entire year group, which
Speaker 1: was the MVP that year, I believe, well, actually Gruden
Speaker 1: was was actually not on that team either. That was
Speaker 1: Bill Callahan, so, like you said, Gannon, right, look like
Speaker 1: Jannon was fantastic that season and car looks to me
Speaker 1: to be the same. But Car's got a rifle like
Speaker 1: Gannon wishes he had. And I know that this this
Speaker 1: game wasn't about deep passes. But he had that forty
Speaker 1: three yard throw to z A Jones, which was on
Speaker 1: third and long, I believe, and that to me was
Speaker 1: Derek carr One. It was just an incredible throw, got
Speaker 1: protected pretty well, trusted his guy who who was a
Speaker 1: Jones to make a play. Z A Jones makes it.
Speaker 1: They're they're just one of the best passing games in
Speaker 1: the league. The Eagles don't have a great defense, but
Speaker 1: this is what you do against bad defenses. Thirty one
Speaker 1: at thirty four, he is a top five quarterback. You know,
Speaker 1: said the same thing in the previous I never thought
Speaker 1: he could play at this level because he he is
Speaker 1: playing as well as any quarterback in the league. He
Speaker 1: just looks so comfortable in the offense and he's had
Speaker 1: you know, stretches and everyone because like well he almost
Speaker 1: won the m v P and like I watched every
Speaker 1: one of those staffs that year. He was overrated that year.
Speaker 1: Like his numbers did not belie him being a top
Speaker 1: three or fourth quarterback. He had a great year, but this,
Speaker 1: I think this Car is way better. Is Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think if you've followed his career from the jump, he
Speaker 1: has gotten into grooves over stretches where he's been like
Speaker 1: you kind of talk yourself into him a little bit
Speaker 1: and then he'll take a step back or the team
Speaker 1: takes a step back, and you're like, Okay, John Gruden
Speaker 1: was the same way. Gruden seemed to always be in
Speaker 1: and out when it came to Derek Carr. But right
Speaker 1: now it's just a sustained level of really good play
Speaker 1: and um, you know, after the game, Uh, Besaccia called
Speaker 1: Derek dark Car the voice of the Raiders now with
Speaker 1: Gruden gone, and then Car repaid that favor by telling
Speaker 1: the media that, uh, he believes Besaccia should be the
Speaker 1: coach now and in the future. So it's a big
Speaker 1: love fest now with Vegas. With the season could go
Speaker 1: one of two ways when you have something like what
Speaker 1: happened on that Monday with that stunning Gruden resignation and
Speaker 1: the Raiders have rallied around. So one of the beat writers, yes,
Speaker 1: function one of the eat beat writers point out Posaccia
Speaker 1: is so humble, like he did his press conferences after
Speaker 1: car and another player, which is like never happens. He
Speaker 1: was like, now you guys go first me or he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't know the process to the order. It's just
Speaker 1: that's that's um a thing. I mean, all they have
Speaker 1: to do is get rid of John Gurden. They're one
Speaker 1: of the most complete teams in the league now, I know, well,
Speaker 1: it is, it's it is. It's just the Raiders were
Speaker 1: good before Gruden left. They're good again. They just happened
Speaker 1: he got he stepped away when they lost two games,
Speaker 1: and it was just kind of built in this narrative,
Speaker 1: which was tired immediately that he he left a mess.
Speaker 1: He came into a mess and he left a mess.
Speaker 1: You know, the Raiders are ready to roll and I
Speaker 1: think they have a chance here to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And one last note about Vegas is performance today. They
Speaker 1: did it without Darren Waller, who was inactive with an
Speaker 1: ankle injury. They also lost Josh Jacobs, who always seems
Speaker 1: to be hurt, but he got a chest injury after
Speaker 1: he ran for twenty nine yards on six attempts in
Speaker 1: this game. Scored and then left the game. But we
Speaker 1: scored nine points in the last game with Gruden. So
Speaker 1: but I'm not saying it's because of rich Bessaccia. But
Speaker 1: it hasn't hurt. It has not hurt. Change can help
Speaker 1: if you're getting rid of someone. It's just an ego
Speaker 1: like Kume, Like nobody's defending John Gruden. They were cherry
Speaker 1: picking when you you pointed this game and then you
Speaker 1: ignore the three game winning streak that started the season.
Speaker 1: Right point is a team. My point is he comes.
Speaker 1: He comes in Bacia after two terrible games where they're
Speaker 1: one of the last ranked offenses in the league. Didn't
Speaker 1: top two fifty yards in either. But they played the
Speaker 1: Chargers and the Bears. I mean, okay, those were the
Speaker 1: two games where they where they struggled offensively, the Charges.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it hasn't hurt to get a little
Speaker 1: baccy a bump. You get into the bye week. It
Speaker 1: is a different Raiders team that they haven't hit the
Speaker 1: bye week like this, and they played a bad Eagles
Speaker 1: team today. It was like we were using thirty to
Speaker 1: seven and I like, I saw Nick Sirianni on the sideline.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about a non bump. He looked
Speaker 1: like he was on the phone with like a car
Speaker 1: insurance salesman, a like dealing with a car issue. He
Speaker 1: looked completely disengaged. The Eagles have lost uh five out
Speaker 1: of last six, and with the Deshaun Watson rumors swirling
Speaker 1: all over the place. You know Jalen hurts to me
Speaker 1: week to week when you watched the way he plays,
Speaker 1: he's not bad. But you wonder what the Eagles are
Speaker 1: thinking as they look ahead Balta, what's on the trade market,
Speaker 1: and what happens come next spring. Smartinson reported they are
Speaker 1: not in the watson um sweep steaks. He seemed to
Speaker 1: indicate Watson was the reason why, because he's got a
Speaker 1: no trade clicked. I don't want to go, they've said.
Speaker 1: Miami is the only place he does want to go.
Speaker 1: All right, much more to get to. But first let's
Speaker 1: take a break, all right, Duck and cover. Sunday continues on.
Speaker 1: First you duck and then you cover, and very tightly,
Speaker 1: you cover the back of your neck in your face.
Speaker 1: Lobs at far side. Burgs with the catch of the
Speaker 1: third and most of the twenty far side fifteen ten
Speaker 1: five touchdown. Zach Urts forties seven yards, becomes the first
Speaker 1: player ever to have touchdown catches in consecutive games for
Speaker 1: two different teams, the first ever. I heard that too,
Speaker 1: and it's like that's never happened. Well, good for zach Ertz.
Speaker 1: That's Dave Pash of Katie a R with the call.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins caught a touchdown pass against his former team,
Speaker 1: and yes, zach Ertz caught that touchdown pass for his
Speaker 1: new team. And the Arizona Cardinals scored thirty one unanswered
Speaker 1: points of role pass the Texans thirty one to five.
Speaker 1: What are we even doing here? Mark your thoughts? Well,
Speaker 1: it was thirty one unanswered because they came out very
Speaker 1: um messy on offense and I thought a little bit
Speaker 1: lethargic to to some degree. But it's a good opportunity
Speaker 1: to talk about not their offense for once, but the
Speaker 1: Cardinals defense, which came into this game second in d
Speaker 1: v O A and look like it And I know
Speaker 1: it's I know it's Houston, but this is not. This
Speaker 1: isn't a new thing. They dominated Cleveland and created total
Speaker 1: havoc a week ago. They've been doing it week after week.
Speaker 1: It started in Week one with Chandler Jones having the
Speaker 1: five sacks. He isn't even in the lineup right now.
Speaker 1: But Marcus Golden wrecked Tech the Texans today with two sacks.
Speaker 1: He had two last week. J J. Watt, Greg you
Speaker 1: mentioned this on our Friday broadcast. Continues to thrive and
Speaker 1: look like he belongs more and more. Davis Mills again,
Speaker 1: Davis Mills has been really up and down. I mean,
Speaker 1: at least a little bit up in a lot down
Speaker 1: at times. Had twenty three completions for a hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty five yards. That's three point five yards per passed.
Speaker 1: That's partly Houston's totally inept uncreative offense, but it's also
Speaker 1: Arizona's defense saying our offense is going to have plenty
Speaker 1: of time to get back into this because we're a
Speaker 1: complete control of this game. And after that terrible start
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, I think part of their issues if
Speaker 1: you look at the last couple of weeks, Max Garcia
Speaker 1: at center in for Rodney Hudson, who's fantastic, has had issues.
Speaker 1: He shot the ball over Kyler's head at one point
Speaker 1: today early on. That happened last week in Cleveland, So
Speaker 1: there have been issues with that transition at center, and
Speaker 1: Kyler was running for his life a little bit here
Speaker 1: and just they they had about I think to one
Speaker 1: or two yards after the first three drives. Then then
Speaker 1: they then they just didn't worried about the center too much.
Speaker 1: When it's well, it's been two weeks in a row,
Speaker 1: they're they're only they're lucky that they didn't get into
Speaker 1: a hole like that against a better opponent. But a
Speaker 1: J Green forty one yard rope awesome catch in this
Speaker 1: thing DeAndre Hopkins at a catch on one throw that
Speaker 1: I thought Kyler might have been one of Kyler Murray's
Speaker 1: best of the year, where he showed incredible vision in
Speaker 1: arms strength finding Hopkins along the sidelines. So it turned
Speaker 1: into everything you thought it would be. It didn't start
Speaker 1: that way. But this Cardinals defense shows how balanced they
Speaker 1: are because the offense, when it wants to be is
Speaker 1: totally overwhelming and the defense is for real. Sometimes a
Speaker 1: box score does tell you this story, and at least
Speaker 1: it tells me the story of their season. Six players
Speaker 1: on their team had over fifty yards in this game,
Speaker 1: and to me, that is the story of the Cardinals
Speaker 1: offense this season. It is really spread around you don't
Speaker 1: expects to be that guy, but Max Williams was doing
Speaker 1: it before. It's Kirk gets fifty, Hopkins fifty three, Green
Speaker 1: sixty six, and then the key lately over the last
Speaker 1: month really is Edmonds and Connor both looking good. Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray had not needed to run at all. His rushing
Speaker 1: totals has fallen through the route that through the floor.
Speaker 1: This year, he's barely running at all. It's it's kind
Speaker 1: of amazing. If you can be this good without Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray running, and with ron Dale Moore as your fourth receiver,
Speaker 1: it's like gonna make good big plays with his legs
Speaker 1: at certain points of this If you don't need him
Speaker 1: to do it, that's gonna help everything. It's gonna make
Speaker 1: those more effective. It's gonna keep him healthier. The Cardinals
Speaker 1: remain the NFL's only undefeated team. There's seven and oh
Speaker 1: for the first time since nineteen seventy four. The Texans
Speaker 1: are one and six. They've lost six straight. Bad teams
Speaker 1: are worse this year. I mean, the Texans have lost
Speaker 1: their last three road games by a combined score of
Speaker 1: a hundred and two to eight. They're noncompetitive and the
Speaker 1: rare instance in the NFL of a team laying that
Speaker 1: twenty and a half point would and it was not
Speaker 1: a problem for the Cardinals. Let's move on laying that
Speaker 1: Wood should have locked them up. I'm not allowed. I
Speaker 1: like you lock up the spread. Twenty's interesting thing. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's so really it's a lesser than taking a favorite snap.
Speaker 1: Rogers back pedals right side end zone and he's got
Speaker 1: Tony over the shoulder catch touchdown, and he spikes the
Speaker 1: end zone. Quip the football. Whoa, he spiked the end
Speaker 1: zone with the football. Now that's next level. Wayne Larvy
Speaker 1: with a called w T MJ. Aaron Rodgers through touchdown passes,
Speaker 1: the three receivers, including that one to forgotten friend Bobby Tanker,
Speaker 1: and the defense stood tall when the red zone to
Speaker 1: help the Packers beat Washington ten. That's six straight wins
Speaker 1: four in green Bay. The Packers haven't lost since that
Speaker 1: three trouncing at the hand of the Saints on the
Speaker 1: season opener. Greg green Bay continues to efficiently take care
Speaker 1: of its business. Weird game, you know, the Washington football
Speaker 1: team ends up with a hundred and twenty six more
Speaker 1: yards in this game, more yards for play that was
Speaker 1: skewed a little at the end, but not that much.
Speaker 1: They looked like even teams throughout, except one team as
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams and the other team's got
Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke and McLaurin, and that that's not enough. Like
Speaker 1: the fourth down play early in the game, um where
Speaker 1: Rogers runs for are actually uh throws it to Adams
Speaker 1: after having a roll right like they should have lost
Speaker 1: that down and they end up scoring a touchdown on
Speaker 1: it on fourth down. Uh. There's another like long run
Speaker 1: that Rogers has on third and long. It's just like
Speaker 1: great players making impossible place to stop. Adams had a
Speaker 1: twenty six yard catch later, which was as good a
Speaker 1: catch and throw that I've seen all year because he
Speaker 1: just wasn't open at all. And yet they didn't like
Speaker 1: walk away with this game. It's crazy that Washington only
Speaker 1: ended up with ten points to be in the red
Speaker 1: zone four times and not just not get any touchdowns,
Speaker 1: but not get any points. Well, I'm looking at this
Speaker 1: drive chart and they fumbled on the own twenty nine
Speaker 1: next drive downs at green Bay's one, downs again at
Speaker 1: green Bays three, an interception at the green Bay twelve,
Speaker 1: and then they squeeze out a field goal with the
Speaker 1: game out of reach right it was. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: There was one play where Heineke could have walked into
Speaker 1: the end zone and dove for some reason and his
Speaker 1: knee hit the ground and because of the rule that
Speaker 1: you're giving yourself up didn't count, they didn't. I think
Speaker 1: we got to calm down a little bit with the
Speaker 1: giving himself up rule, because you I understand, you want
Speaker 1: to protect the quarterback and you don't want to hurt
Speaker 1: the defense. But sometimes it's you feel it's only that
Speaker 1: rule though, you know, along the goal line, because then
Speaker 1: then you're having to like interpret it. It's very confusing,
Speaker 1: like are you he clearly wasn't giving himself up, but
Speaker 1: by rule it was over and then he threw a
Speaker 1: bad interception a little bit later. It's pretty much what
Speaker 1: we've seen out of Taylor Heineke throughout. And I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of glad that both teams protected Cardinals Packers this
Speaker 1: Thursday night game that I'm excited for six and one
Speaker 1: versus seven, and oh they got through to it. The
Speaker 1: Packers have some concerns they could not run the ball
Speaker 1: at all in this game. They're very banged up on defense,
Speaker 1: so I think I'd give him credit for being resourceful,
Speaker 1: but they are very injured and they're not the same
Speaker 1: secondary without diale Alexander. I just googled Ryan Fitzpatrick news.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's let's see report. Washington's Ryan fitzgat still
Speaker 1: weeks away from return, still on crutch. That's our guy,
Speaker 1: rap seat. That was his Sunday morning. He's been doing
Speaker 1: those each week, like I'll check, I'll check the phone
Speaker 1: like well, like at two thirty in the morning, and
Speaker 1: he's filed like three written pieces. I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: like breaking water game necessarily, but they're all valuable. That
Speaker 1: the business. That's the game. They all they all play
Speaker 1: the game. They have their little nugs and they hold
Speaker 1: it and they wait till the morning shows. Then they
Speaker 1: say this is These are my nugs. Ian, these are
Speaker 1: my nugs. Schefter, these are my nugs. Maybe Glazer if
Speaker 1: he's not working out, I'll drop a nug over here.
Speaker 1: You got locking for over here. Hey, I got nugs
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot to spread around there. Here's
Speaker 1: a nug for you. Lazard and Tony in getting involved,
Speaker 1: that's what we were calling for a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Lazard did it last week, did it this week? That's
Speaker 1: a good sign. Tony in involved, like they need these
Speaker 1: guys to be involved. And Rashan Gary has been great
Speaker 1: this year defensively and really kind of took over this
Speaker 1: game at points. Washington just has nothing else other than McLaurin.
Speaker 1: It's just such a steep fall. And then when McLaurin
Speaker 1: takes a pass in the end zone off the helmet, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know it's not Washington's day. All right, you guys
Speaker 1: ready forget another blowout? Take us underneath the table or
Speaker 1: disk or anything else close by third down and goal,
Speaker 1: the shotgun set the look, here's Brady looking throws the
Speaker 1: pastor down my cabbage ask free today, catch my average
Speaker 1: parlor carns. It's my cabage day today, Jeans neger Off
Speaker 1: wf us with all Tom Brady first guy ever to
Speaker 1: throw six hundred touchdown passes. That's cool. And the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: beat up on the Bears three three. Excuse me, um.
Speaker 1: It is the best start to the regular season in
Speaker 1: the history of the Bucks. Six and one. That's four
Speaker 1: straight wins. They avenge a loss to the Bears from
Speaker 1: a year ago, and Brady greg in a game that
Speaker 1: wasn't even like a great Brady game still goes for
Speaker 1: thirty six to eleven and four tds and breaks. You know,
Speaker 1: one of the biggest marks in NFL history according to
Speaker 1: you guys, six d touch. Greg hated this. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't. True football nerds, this is the classic thing
Speaker 1: that you you reign discontent on thet That's not what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Mark just did not believe that Mike Evans
Speaker 1: did not know that it was the sixth the way,
Speaker 1: which is not fact. That is your theory. I don't
Speaker 1: play Evans had no concept. You just Brady was approaching
Speaker 1: six hundred. I don't know whether he did or not.
Speaker 1: I just was saying, maybe he didn't know because you
Speaker 1: were getting on Mike Evans. He gave the ball, you know,
Speaker 1: to the guy in the crowd. It became a big story.
Speaker 1: The Bucks ended up negotiating getting the ball back. All
Speaker 1: they gave him was a thousand dollar gift card facts
Speaker 1: at the team store. I thought it was it's five hundred.
Speaker 1: And by the way, the reason it got on my
Speaker 1: radar because we do we're very we love doing these
Speaker 1: hits for Sky Sports, and I was under the impression
Speaker 1: that Mike Evans gave the ball to a child and
Speaker 1: kept talking about the recipient as a child. The child
Speaker 1: was twenty nine year old Byron Kennedy, who did have
Speaker 1: a big, large like straw hat on. Looks sort of
Speaker 1: like a child to me. But um, like, yeah, Greg,
Speaker 1: it was. It was five dollars. And my contention was
Speaker 1: that if you don't think that that Bucks players knew
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady was, you guys to argue more about
Speaker 1: the gift card. Greg Alman of the Athletics says a thousand.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's wrong, but he says, you
Speaker 1: guys should fight about that. Well, we we got bad
Speaker 1: information then before the show. All right, listen, Um, this
Speaker 1: was great. This is some good newsroom heat between Rosenthal
Speaker 1: and Cessler. But I do think it is notable if
Speaker 1: you're an NFL player to throw your six under touchdown. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's what I came. All I meant was it three
Speaker 1: touchdowns came quickly. What a crazy first quarter that he
Speaker 1: had three touchdowns and yet on his first sixteen throws
Speaker 1: they had fifty one yards Like the Bears defense, I
Speaker 1: swear played about as right as well as you possibly
Speaker 1: could play, not saying they played great, but they competed
Speaker 1: in a game that you lost thirty eight three. It
Speaker 1: was six five times that the Bucks started in Bears
Speaker 1: territory out of six, five out of six. It's like,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do at that point? And Justin
Speaker 1: Fields turned the ball over five times. So much for
Speaker 1: progress for the Chicago offense, which was completely overwhelmed in
Speaker 1: this game. They turned the ball over five times. Uh,
Speaker 1: they were you know, over two in the red zone. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, It's just, man, it's tough. It's tough sledding
Speaker 1: right now to be um a Bears fan, because it
Speaker 1: just seems that they're just not fun to watch. And
Speaker 1: even though they have three wins this year, doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like that. This doesn't feel like a team that's in
Speaker 1: the mix in the NFC. This feels like a team
Speaker 1: that's a long way off. You just don't I don't
Speaker 1: know who to trust in Chicago, And I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess they ultimately they did put Justin Fields out there
Speaker 1: like we've been asking for since, like you know, early
Speaker 1: may um, but it's not going well around him. And
Speaker 1: you know, I don't care about the body language stuff
Speaker 1: on the sideline which people are going crazy about um,
Speaker 1: but he did look. He looked more like, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: So I don't whether it's five hundred or one thousand
Speaker 1: the gift card, so it's basically here, take this card, right,
Speaker 1: take it to the team store and get you know,
Speaker 1: four jerseys or whatever, and then make you'll become our
Speaker 1: billboard even more than you already are. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of a win for the team. And then we'll give
Speaker 1: you a ball, and I mean that ball better be
Speaker 1: signed by Tom Brady. I want to know. I would
Speaker 1: imagine better, not just be some but here's here's an
Speaker 1: object that probably and you know, down the road and
Speaker 1: some sort of auction couldn't let you half a million
Speaker 1: or a million dollars. But instead here's either a thousand
Speaker 1: or five hundred dollar gift card depending on what a billboard.
Speaker 1: He could have ran it. He could have tougher bargain.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was up to him. He was trying
Speaker 1: to be he's trying to be generous to uh, to
Speaker 1: the team that he loves, but he already is because
Speaker 1: he bought those tickets, and uh, I'm with you. He
Speaker 1: just needed to drive a little harder bargain there. How
Speaker 1: about a new car. Right. Also you let's say you
Speaker 1: are like even an adult that like loves wearing football clothing. Okay, Like,
Speaker 1: still a thousand dollars is a lot to have to spend.
Speaker 1: The only point of spending a thousand dollars that team
Speaker 1: stories to give people a lot of things, because what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do with that? I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a very predictable gift giver, which will you know,
Speaker 1: probably disenfranchise him from something. The thing that that struck
Speaker 1: me early though with this Buck's offense is like, and
Speaker 1: we've talked about it, is their running game early in
Speaker 1: this game when it was, you know, scoreless. The first
Speaker 1: touchdown drive is it was for net running through him
Speaker 1: was Ronald Owns running through him. And I really loved
Speaker 1: they kept like trying to put up points in this
Speaker 1: game and throw the ball. But the fact that they
Speaker 1: could run early for one two matters to me. The
Speaker 1: throws to Evans were crazy. I mean the anticipation he
Speaker 1: Brady's throwing these like way before he comes out of
Speaker 1: his brakes, Like he handed the ball to Evans forty
Speaker 1: six yards down the field. Even though he missed some
Speaker 1: throws or or had some struggles at some point like
Speaker 1: he was awesome and on on the other side, Field
Speaker 1: just has got to speed up, you know. He's just
Speaker 1: really frustratingly slow with his delivery and his decision making
Speaker 1: and to the point where he got hit while he
Speaker 1: was thrown. Throwing I think four times today and a
Speaker 1: couple of them were fumbles. And the one that really
Speaker 1: stucks out, stuck out to me was at the end
Speaker 1: where Levonti David's right in front of him. I mean,
Speaker 1: He's just about to destroy Fields and he's early in
Speaker 1: that wind up, and it reminds me a little bit
Speaker 1: of Cam Newton and Tannehill, you know who who have
Speaker 1: gotten away with this, and he just like keeps doing
Speaker 1: that wind up, I mean, and he just gets absolutely
Speaker 1: crushed and he's not even like close to finished with
Speaker 1: with throwing the ball, and that's why he fumbled three
Speaker 1: times today on top of the three pick and you know,
Speaker 1: a little sneak preview, I'm gonna keep the Cardinals at
Speaker 1: number one in the power rankings. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody's beating the Bucks right now. I think the
Speaker 1: Bucks are humming. I think they look so good and
Speaker 1: just virtually maybe the defense is a work in progress,
Speaker 1: but the offense, it doesn't really matter who's missing. They
Speaker 1: just have layers of talent and the best quarterback ever
Speaker 1: at the control. The crazy thing is the thing that
Speaker 1: I remember from this gamer. It's like Tom Brady yelling
Speaker 1: at people. He was so mad O. J. Howard didn't
Speaker 1: even know he was the hot route on one play.
Speaker 1: He was so mad at Mike Evans didn't know he
Speaker 1: was the hot route on another play. And on another
Speaker 1: he was yelling at the coaches when they're ahead of
Speaker 1: thirty five to three because I think they didn't get
Speaker 1: to play and in time, and he had to take
Speaker 1: a time out. It's like, hey man, he's intense this
Speaker 1: time Brady. Tom Brady is no longer with the Patriots,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean the Patriots still can't dunk on
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. How can we tell when the
Speaker 1: atomic bomb they explode? And their teacher is explaining that
Speaker 1: they are too kinds of attack with warning and without
Speaker 1: any warning, And now the Patriots were the first team
Speaker 1: tan from the New York twenty five boorn motions into
Speaker 1: the bathfield from the pistol voter bartots. He's looking to
Speaker 1: throw he tosses the loft tagalark En touchdown. Patriots Bob
Speaker 1: Socio was called w b z zolac, just you know,
Speaker 1: making sounds in the background like a feral animal. Kendrick
Speaker 1: Born and Nelson Aghilar kicked off a slaughter in Foxborough.
Speaker 1: Mac Jones threw two touchdown passes in his first three
Speaker 1: hundred yard game. Danny and Harrison and j J two
Speaker 1: Taylor each ran for two scores. Pats one for the
Speaker 1: first time at home, rolling past the Jets. Wait for it,
Speaker 1: and don't think I didn't notice, even though Catalan and
Speaker 1: Loften totally out to lunch. I mean, Bill Belichick is
Speaker 1: called deep up with forty seven points, trying to get
Speaker 1: the fifty burger on the team he hates more than
Speaker 1: any team. Ever. Everyone else sees it, and somehow the
Speaker 1: CBS team, who have nothing else to talk about in
Speaker 1: this blowout, find it not worth mentioning that Bill Belichick's
Speaker 1: going out of his way to put up fifty on
Speaker 1: the Jets. Well he did it, and um, it couldn't
Speaker 1: get any uglier for the Jets, who, in addition to
Speaker 1: getting embarrassed, and it's an indictment of the entire organization
Speaker 1: and coaching staff. Once again, they lose Zach Wilson, who
Speaker 1: got hit twice in a row down low no flags thrown,
Speaker 1: of course. Uh. And he suffered a knee injury. He
Speaker 1: described it after the game is feeling a pop. They
Speaker 1: believe it's a pc L injury and they'll know more
Speaker 1: after an m R I on Monday. None of that
Speaker 1: sounds remotely good. Uh. And the page and the Jets
Speaker 1: are is a bigger of a mess right now as
Speaker 1: I can ever remember in all my years as a fan.
Speaker 1: But if you're Patriots fan, you love that some thing's
Speaker 1: never change. Your offense has gotten better each week. Mac
Speaker 1: Jones is going down the field. It looks great. You
Speaker 1: get John new Smith involved, Nelson Agil hits a couple
Speaker 1: of plays over. It's still not efficient those two guys
Speaker 1: that ten targets and four catches combine. But you do something.
Speaker 1: Your boy Damian Harris, at least he's delivering for your
Speaker 1: fantasy team, dan Um. Things are great. I think they
Speaker 1: absolutely go a little extra because it's the Jets, although
Speaker 1: the Patriots kind of like to go extra against anyone.
Speaker 1: I mean, the grave digger will will remember some Titans
Speaker 1: games where for some reason they just decide, you know,
Speaker 1: wanted to put up. Did you watch the end of
Speaker 1: the game. No, But I mean it was the same
Speaker 1: conversation that fifty nine in the snow game against tennessee
Speaker 1: them taking just deep shots after they get to fifth
Speaker 1: what they do at one point that they get to
Speaker 1: midfield and it's like, okay, the Pats are gonna get
Speaker 1: the three points. And then they get pushed back into
Speaker 1: holding and it's like second and seventeen with three minutes
Speaker 1: to play, and it's just like, okay, they'll run it twice,
Speaker 1: they'll kill the clockdown, punted away, game over, and what
Speaker 1: do they do? They call a pass play, then a
Speaker 1: bomb down field. It was like, okay, we know exactly
Speaker 1: a Catalan. Well hold wake up, Like what's I guess
Speaker 1: it's gonna go somewhere. Come back to us, go back
Speaker 1: to Thursday's show and Friday's television show where we kept
Speaker 1: hoisting up the Patriots at the team that the Jets
Speaker 1: were gonna go beat this weekend. Who said that absolutely
Speaker 1: this was Greg honestly, like we were talking about the
Speaker 1: Pagriot pick them to win by ten. I said that
Speaker 1: this Patriots, what am I listening to like we like, honestly, now,
Speaker 1: I'll back you up. On Thursday, We're all like, there
Speaker 1: is no what's the case, because it's not the case
Speaker 1: anyone but the Jets and the Texans that that's the case.
Speaker 1: The Jets played pretty good defense for four games, then
Speaker 1: they went to London and then in this game they
Speaker 1: gave up more yards than they have since the turn
Speaker 1: of the century. Just crazy to a mac Jones Patriots
Speaker 1: team that that was the case. I don't know, because
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't see two teams equal on
Speaker 1: any level. And the Jets, if you want to know
Speaker 1: what my thoughts were heading into the game, it was,
Speaker 1: oh my god, how do you flatline in London? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, why aren't you building something? Please show me
Speaker 1: something this week in New England. This should not be
Speaker 1: a team. This isn't the old Patriots where you should
Speaker 1: go up there and get absolutely demolished. This is not
Speaker 1: the way it is anymore. You don't need to be
Speaker 1: that team on the wrong side. And yet that's exactly
Speaker 1: what happened. Because the Jets are on a on a
Speaker 1: biblical level, uh played down to whatever the expectations are,
Speaker 1: and I just think it is great for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: It's good to have a team that you could always
Speaker 1: bully like this. But for the Jets and Robert Sala,
Speaker 1: who lost his temper a little bit and in the
Speaker 1: post game was using some salty language. Uh, he knows
Speaker 1: what a bad look it was today for the Jets
Speaker 1: that they would have a bye week to prepare for
Speaker 1: this game, and even before Zach and Will Wilson went out,
Speaker 1: I think it was seventeen nothing. I mean, this was
Speaker 1: a game that they just know showed on and it's
Speaker 1: such a bad look. It's a bad sire organization to
Speaker 1: get beat fifty four to thirteen when the Patriots are
Speaker 1: who they are now and you're supposed to be a
Speaker 1: team on the rise. It's disgusting, that's all. They have
Speaker 1: no identity, and there are plenty of first year coaches
Speaker 1: that have not a lot to work with that. If
Speaker 1: anything else, those teams, some of those teams can you
Speaker 1: can leave that season that year one scene. I know
Speaker 1: what they are and have no idea what the Jets
Speaker 1: are right now, and I'm surprised they have they have
Speaker 1: eleven games. It is surprising eleven games with Zach Wilson,
Speaker 1: because if he seriously. I mean it can you lose
Speaker 1: the evaluation of your rookie quarterback and then it's all
Speaker 1: out the window. I mean I stayed home in the
Speaker 1: early part of the games today to watch this with
Speaker 1: my dad who's in town, and this type of letdown,
Speaker 1: it's just unacceptable. And Jets fans, this is not acceptable.
Speaker 1: You know this. The organization needs to be held accuntable
Speaker 1: for how poor and how what a product they are
Speaker 1: putting out there is unacceptable and it needs to change.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what they do because last year,
Speaker 1: when they were embarrassing themselves in embarrassing Jets fans, they said,
Speaker 1: we'll fire the coach, We'll get a new quarterback. But
Speaker 1: now we have the new coach and we have the
Speaker 1: new quarterback, and you're still embarrassing your fan base. So
Speaker 1: tell me what you're gonna do. Now, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? Because I'm I'm fed up. I'm at the
Speaker 1: place where Chris Wessling was with the Bengals, and I
Speaker 1: have two sons and I'm supposed to make them Jets fans.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what do you want me? I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that. I am not doing that. I'm done I'm
Speaker 1: I'm legitimately angry. This is not performative. We have to
Speaker 1: move on before I get in trouble. I'm not mad
Speaker 1: right now. Oh, hand off the booker who wants left
Speaker 1: touchdown Giant booker an excuse the yard scamper icing on
Speaker 1: the cake for the giant second win of the season.
Speaker 1: All right, So it wasn't all a loss for the
Speaker 1: New York teams. Even though the Giants are boomed out
Speaker 1: of their building early on against the Panthers, they put
Speaker 1: it together. Um, and somehow the Jets are involved in
Speaker 1: this too. Bob pop a w f ban with the
Speaker 1: call Daniel Jones through a five yard touchdown pass and
Speaker 1: made it an amazing one hand at sixteen yard grab
Speaker 1: uh and the game's only true touchdown drive win over
Speaker 1: the Panthers, who have crystallized into goose droppings after their
Speaker 1: three and oh start. Matt Rule bench Sam Donald in
Speaker 1: favor of p J. Walker in the fourth fourth quarter
Speaker 1: of this game. After the game, he quickly proclaimed Donald
Speaker 1: will remain his starter going forward. Let's hear from Mr Rule. Um,
Speaker 1: and then one end, did you The last thing I
Speaker 1: want to do is embarrass somebody. And I know because
Speaker 1: I know that this is gonna be the story this week,
Speaker 1: but you know, I really believe sometimes it's just, you know,
Speaker 1: you go back to the old days, before all the pressure.
Speaker 1: You know, quarterbacks would sometimes sit for a little bit
Speaker 1: and have to come back. So well, you know, let's
Speaker 1: Sam will define who he is, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like this is up to him. Great. They also asked
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, you know, if he could, if he should
Speaker 1: keep the starting job, and he just said, yeah, that
Speaker 1: that decision is not up to me. He's lucky. P J.
Speaker 1: Walker came in and it was brutal. You know, the
Speaker 1: game was only two scores at that point. Walker went
Speaker 1: three for fourteen. That certainly did not look any better
Speaker 1: than Sam Donald, but it was hard to look too
Speaker 1: much worse. Donald throws d and eleven yards. Had it
Speaker 1: grizzly interception on what was really the only good offensive
Speaker 1: drive where he just sailed at bad decision and a
Speaker 1: bad throw, took a safety by throwing the ball away,
Speaker 1: kind of panicking under pressure. Rule went through the mistakes.
Speaker 1: He was saying he was missing open guys. He was
Speaker 1: throwing off his back foot, and I think when he
Speaker 1: said missing open guys, I think he mean not seeing
Speaker 1: it either, and that that's kind of what I saw
Speaker 1: in this game from Donald. He was at the point
Speaker 1: where he was just not allowing his team a chance
Speaker 1: to win. And we we saw these games, you know,
Speaker 1: when he was on the Jets, We've seen a couple
Speaker 1: now with the Panthers. He actually has eight games where
Speaker 1: he's averaged under two adjusted yards per attempt since he's
Speaker 1: been in the league. The rest of the NFL since then,
Speaker 1: no one else has more than than three. And so
Speaker 1: when Donald goes bad, it's like really goes bad, and
Speaker 1: it becomes an avalanche, and he Rule can say whatever
Speaker 1: he wants, We'll get you to you Giants. But Rule
Speaker 1: can say whatever he wants in that moment, he has
Speaker 1: to he has to keep playing. Darn what's he gonna do?
Speaker 1: At least right now. Immediately after the game, we see
Speaker 1: Joseph Person, the Panthers beat reporter with the Athletics saying
Speaker 1: that the Panthers are involved in the Deshaun Watson trade negotiations.
Speaker 1: That's been followed up by Florio at p FT and
Speaker 1: Aaron Wilson at the Houston some radio station, I forget
Speaker 1: which one right now, um, both saying that the Panthers
Speaker 1: are involved too, so that to me speaks a lot
Speaker 1: louder than what rules it. Yeah, and again, I mean
Speaker 1: Watson has a no trade clause so he can decide
Speaker 1: where he wants to go. I'm mean, this is the
Speaker 1: second week in a row where I'm looking at this.
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson three catches off of nine targets. Last week,
Speaker 1: he was an absolute liability. It's on Donald and it
Speaker 1: sounds like Donald's just not seeing the field, He's not
Speaker 1: processing along with all the other mistakes. But d J.
Speaker 1: Moore also six catches off of ten targets, Like there
Speaker 1: are you know? This was Sam Donald's in such a
Speaker 1: good situation. He has so much talent around him. There's
Speaker 1: no Christian McCaffrey, but the wide don't sort of helping.
Speaker 1: And then I'm watching a Giants team that has the
Speaker 1: starting roster skill position wise on the bench. It was
Speaker 1: an interesting comparison because the Giants offense was missing seven
Speaker 1: of their original starters, including their top four playmakers. And
Speaker 1: what you saw was a young quarterback who did everything
Speaker 1: he could despite the situation. Didn't light it up, but
Speaker 1: manage the game, played about as well as he couldn't
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and then Donald who crumbled under the situation.
Speaker 1: That's a tough situation. And you know, they picked up
Speaker 1: Donald's option, so it doesn't mean he's their quarterback for
Speaker 1: sure next year, but it's a big fine nancial investment.
Speaker 1: They owe him eighteen million dollars guaranteed. They did not
Speaker 1: need to do that, very similar to Teddy Bridgewater where
Speaker 1: they gave him that second year. And Donald is reminding
Speaker 1: me of like a destitute man's Teddy right now because
Speaker 1: everything short of the sticks, everything on third down, everything
Speaker 1: is just like a three yard gain and then they pun.
Speaker 1: But you can sit him if you find someone better.
Speaker 1: That's just money, right, Yes, they will, they win. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe Matt Rule will be on board with the Shaun Watson.
Speaker 1: Maybe he wouldn't um, but if David Tepper's on board
Speaker 1: the owner, that's all that matters. He would make a move.
Speaker 1: And if Matt Rule, what is Matt Rule gonna say?
Speaker 1: Because the owner gave him two opportunities to have a
Speaker 1: quarterback in the building that made things happen, and he's
Speaker 1: over too, So it's it's you know, it's not over.
Speaker 1: And maybe Christian McCaffrey comes back and Sam Donald stabilizes
Speaker 1: his play and they are a team that's in the
Speaker 1: playoff makes but it is not looking good right now.
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is their defense played really well in
Speaker 1: this game for until the very end. Like you said,
Speaker 1: there was only one real touchdown drive that the Giants
Speaker 1: only had one drive over forty yards in thirteen tries.
Speaker 1: They kept being put in tough spots and the Panthers
Speaker 1: defense actually held up and kept it a game for
Speaker 1: a long time. So to me, it hasn't been the
Speaker 1: Panthers defense. But I'm concerned. I heard p J. Walker
Speaker 1: talking after the game and they asked him about Donald,
Speaker 1: and there's like, how has he been the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, And he used the words there's been a
Speaker 1: noticeable change in the last couple of weeks. But you know,
Speaker 1: he said that his p J Walker his backup um
Speaker 1: basically just like I think he's feeling. He's feeling what's
Speaker 1: going on and and he's trying to get through it.
Speaker 1: It's a bummer, but uh, we'll see what happened. They
Speaker 1: need McCaffrey back and it won't be week nine at
Speaker 1: the earliest. This Giants team. You know, I haven't given
Speaker 1: up on them totally. You know, they're what does that?
Speaker 1: What does that mean at this point when we to
Speaker 1: win six or seven games, which means you go about
Speaker 1: five after you're one in five. That's all that's about it.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break here and then we
Speaker 1: will finish out the early games. Alright, we're back. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about a close game. Those things do happen in
Speaker 1: the NFL. So here is thirty six yards to win
Speaker 1: the game. Snap spot kick from Coup is away and
Speaker 1: it is good at Letta wins thirty to eight. Is
Speaker 1: the final here today in South Florida. I mean it
Speaker 1: was Westerham out late, so the Braves win the pennant.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why Westerham a little quiet on the game
Speaker 1: winner for Young Way Coup w Z g C with
Speaker 1: the call. Good call, like g C, good call. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that was a great call, but west
Speaker 1: bro and he'll bounce back. Matt Ryan connected on two
Speaker 1: clutch passes to Kyle Pitts to get Atlanta into field
Speaker 1: goal range on the final drive, setting up Coup's thirty
Speaker 1: six yard or as time expired, and the Falcons the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: I mean, the Jets are more miserable than anyone in
Speaker 1: that division. But they have the same record as the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: who are now one and six. After thirty win for
Speaker 1: the Falcons and Mark, that's two straight wins for Atlanta,
Speaker 1: six straight losses front Miami and uh, the Falcons are
Speaker 1: in the murky mix in the NFC. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: if you look at two teams that are in various
Speaker 1: stages of rebuilding, the Falcons much earlier than where Miami
Speaker 1: thought they were. Um, there's a little more to like here.
Speaker 1: And it starts with Kyle Pitts, who you know. You
Speaker 1: guys were there when he went nine for one nineteen
Speaker 1: with a touchdown against the Jets hundreds sixty three yards today,
Speaker 1: looked completely unstoppable, had this incredible one handed catch down
Speaker 1: the sideline. I mean, he makes them fun to watch.
Speaker 1: They simply would not be difference in the game and
Speaker 1: set up three points, and he set up the final
Speaker 1: three points. I saw on Twitter. They're just like they
Speaker 1: don't They're like, we don't care if he's a ted
Speaker 1: They're lining them up as a wide receiver on the outside,
Speaker 1: and he's just winning battles. Well, they and so, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think the narrative here would be so different had
Speaker 1: the Falcons crumbled on that final drive where Pitts did
Speaker 1: play a role because it's all about two for Miami
Speaker 1: and he had. Here's the thing, It's like, he's just
Speaker 1: so up and down. I mean, he had four touchdowns
Speaker 1: on the day. He led two nice drives at the end.
Speaker 1: He put him in a position to win at the
Speaker 1: Miami defense could have stopped the Falcons inside the two
Speaker 1: minute warning. They couldn't. He also had a terrible red
Speaker 1: zone interception and he had an awful throw where he
Speaker 1: was getting kind of dragged to the down to the
Speaker 1: ground on a second pick. So it's like, you look
Speaker 1: at these interceptions for these quarterbacks and it's not to
Speaker 1: blame too of because I feel the people you know,
Speaker 1: it's not two is not the problem. It's like it's
Speaker 1: just that when you look at the interceptions that he has,
Speaker 1: they leave you concerned. Um, he did some good things today,
Speaker 1: But for me, like Matt Ryan, who you know, I
Speaker 1: guess we're kind of post Matt Ryan. We're not getting
Speaker 1: excited about Matt Ryan the same way at this point
Speaker 1: because well, Greg, but you're excited about every single quarterback.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how to monitor anything that's post
Speaker 1: Ryan as an elite quarterback. I think he's just not
Speaker 1: a buzzy guy at this point. But he's a good quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's still good. And he had he had a terrible
Speaker 1: fumble in this game that brought the Dolphins right back
Speaker 1: into it too. But this was you know, Miami's lost
Speaker 1: back to back games on last second field. They're a
Speaker 1: snake bitten club. It's not just that because there are
Speaker 1: all these whispers. They're also on the Deshaun Watson thing.
Speaker 1: And they talked about the fact that to a during
Speaker 1: the week was hearing all that Deshaun Watson stuff and
Speaker 1: that they had it kind of like sequester him away
Speaker 1: from it and kind of get his mind right, and
Speaker 1: and that what does that mean? Well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to add more
Speaker 1: to it than they said on the broadcast. And I
Speaker 1: mean he talked about it too, and he's like, I
Speaker 1: do hear that stuff, but you just can't focus on it.
Speaker 1: And that Charlie Fry, the quarterback coach, who apparently also
Speaker 1: calls plays, um, we're hearing it, was like pulling him
Speaker 1: away just to watch film because I think it's if
Speaker 1: you're young and you're him, it is destructive to hear
Speaker 1: that all the people around you want someone else to
Speaker 1: do it. Very tough, it's very tough. But also this
Speaker 1: is he's a pro now, and that's just part of
Speaker 1: it's I mean, the story is the way it's all unfolding,
Speaker 1: and who Deshaun Watson is and what's going on with
Speaker 1: him makes it even a bigger a story that's hard
Speaker 1: to avoid. But like the Dolphins, I guess you could
Speaker 1: say they're snake bit but last week their coach essentially
Speaker 1: loses them the game terrible time management and you get
Speaker 1: beat by a winless team, and then this week you
Speaker 1: you dig out of a hole, you have a lead
Speaker 1: and you just need to make a stop to steal
Speaker 1: win and you can't do it. So it's, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like a team. Bad teams get beat late for this.
Speaker 1: They're also just not very good this right they were
Speaker 1: given they were given h a life preserver from the
Speaker 1: schedule makers. Getting Jags Falcons back to back, maybe you
Speaker 1: can save your season, and they feel like a team
Speaker 1: that really isn't ready to have their season saved. The Falcons,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, get you know, the Giants football team, Jets,
Speaker 1: and Dolphins really might be the bottom four in your
Speaker 1: power rankings in a row. They get those four in
Speaker 1: a row, they go three and one. They really should
Speaker 1: have gone four and no, because they I don't know
Speaker 1: how they blew that Washington game at the end. Uh
Speaker 1: So to me, they're they're they're a little lucky to
Speaker 1: be three and three. But you'd rather you'd rather take
Speaker 1: care of these games that not. They have some things
Speaker 1: to be excited about. When you're handing it off to
Speaker 1: Cordurel Patterson on the biggest play of the game, to
Speaker 1: pick up short yardage to to base stically, run the
Speaker 1: clock out and set up the field going he's like
Speaker 1: your short yard of running back. That's fun. I do
Speaker 1: think that if you look at their offense, I know
Speaker 1: you're right the the opponents take them into consideration. But
Speaker 1: compared to where we were early in the year, like
Speaker 1: the Arthur Smith offense, you can see elements of it
Speaker 1: moments where it looks a little bit minus Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: passing game wise tight nesque, you know, during some of
Speaker 1: their higher moments, and I thought Matt Ryan was a
Speaker 1: little more daring with the ball today is throwing it deep.
Speaker 1: I think I think what the Falcons are gonna be
Speaker 1: is they're gonna beat these bad teams. They'll hang in
Speaker 1: some games against okay teams, and they'll just get beat
Speaker 1: badly by the good team and their defenses a tiganic message.
Speaker 1: I am not buying in on the Falcons, but good
Speaker 1: for them getting these w's. H Are they as spicy
Speaker 1: as the Giants that we're excited about that are gonna
Speaker 1: win six games? According to the well I I just
Speaker 1: thought the Giants were like the best one in three
Speaker 1: team and then the best one in four team and
Speaker 1: the track of who were on fire. I just think
Speaker 1: they're like a top twenty team and that they're not
Speaker 1: quite as bad as the record. That's all they're about.
Speaker 1: Sessler fired up about being a to the Giants. I
Speaker 1: like that. I just I mean, they didn't there's no
Speaker 1: bar measuring. They didn't have anyone getting our loins on fight.
Speaker 1: I didn't have anyone. I'm just looking for teams that
Speaker 1: keep me interested. The Giants are still that team. One
Speaker 1: of those teams. How about that? Finally another game with
Speaker 1: a huge spread, but it actually ended up being closer
Speaker 1: than anyone expected Aaron Donald hits him pro zone, hitch picked,
Speaker 1: intercepted up to go wine by Jalen Ramsey. He's out
Speaker 1: of the ten right sidelines twenty a stiff farm at Ramsey.
Speaker 1: Preserve that nineteen lead there. I'm not going to bother
Speaker 1: before JB along with call K s B and our
Speaker 1: buddy JB Long, Matthew Stafford passed for three and three
Speaker 1: touchdowns with hero was Jalen Ramsey stepped in front of
Speaker 1: a Jared Goff pass for the big interception that helped
Speaker 1: seal a nineteen win over Jared Goff and the still
Speaker 1: winless Lions at so Far Stadium. Uh, this was a game,
Speaker 1: boys that really had you know, it had blowout embarrassment
Speaker 1: for Jared Goff written all over it. And then we
Speaker 1: got the Dan Campbell experience again. And I gotta, you know,
Speaker 1: give Danny. You want to talk about bad teams that
Speaker 1: are spicy, The Lions are a little bit spicy because
Speaker 1: their head coach fears nothing. He does not fear death.
Speaker 1: And if someone is not afraid to die, then they
Speaker 1: are always going to be difficult to defeat. And in
Speaker 1: this case, he they get the ball. And the whole
Speaker 1: thing was you gotta keep the ball out of the
Speaker 1: hands of the Rams. And what do they do. They
Speaker 1: get the ball, they score a touchdown, they kick it
Speaker 1: on side kick, they recover the on side kick, they
Speaker 1: go down, they get the ball they got they got stopped,
Speaker 1: and fourth down they call a fake punt. Later in
Speaker 1: the game they do it again, and all these things
Speaker 1: went the way of the Lions. Unfortunately, all those things
Speaker 1: went their way, and they still couldn't find a way
Speaker 1: to win, which tells you the disparity here between the
Speaker 1: two teams. That the lines literally through the kitchen sink
Speaker 1: at the Rams and still couldn't find a way. So
Speaker 1: that's how I'll remember this game. The other thing I'll
Speaker 1: remember about it is Jared Goff. Nearly he sniffed revenge
Speaker 1: and came close to one of the better revenge wins
Speaker 1: in a long time. But it was the Goff interception
Speaker 1: at the end of fifteen play drive that shoot up
Speaker 1: nine minutes in the fourth quarter where they had a
Speaker 1: chance to go ahead, and instead he essentially cost him
Speaker 1: the game. And you know, Sean McVeigh breathe a deep
Speaker 1: sigh of relief when that happened. Wasn't that play so
Speaker 1: telling to though, because that's not the first play this
Speaker 1: season where it was just Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: being the two best players in the field and just
Speaker 1: winning the game for their team. Donald gets the pressure,
Speaker 1: gets Goff to force the throw in the red zone.
Speaker 1: Graham's fans have seen that before. Little panicked under pressure.
Speaker 1: Wasn't like a crazy, crazy, terrible throw, but Ramsey made
Speaker 1: a great play on the ball and came over. It's
Speaker 1: probably if you're the Rams, if you're less sneaed, it
Speaker 1: couldn't have happened at a better time in your home
Speaker 1: across from our workplace. It's so far that Jared Goff's
Speaker 1: meltdown leads to a close Rams victory. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is how outside of fantasy circles and
Speaker 1: outside of like Los Angeles local news, I don't think
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup is getting the attention he should. Another ten
Speaker 1: catches for a hundred and fifty six yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's week after week with this guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is on a pace that will set records if
Speaker 1: he continues it. Uh, And that is certainly a surprise,
Speaker 1: but it just shows um. I mean, it's a bit
Speaker 1: of I don't want to say an indictment of God,
Speaker 1: but it shows how great Matthew Stafford is that he
Speaker 1: could take a very good receiver and make him a
Speaker 1: great one. And I will throw out one more thing,
Speaker 1: um the old Mike Lombardi four point play. Another big
Speaker 1: misfire from Golf, and it was a little bit of
Speaker 1: a miscommunication with his running back DeAndre Swift. But again
Speaker 1: on a play late in the game when the Rams
Speaker 1: had a chance to score seven and go up by five,
Speaker 1: and on a third down, Swift was open. It's a
Speaker 1: touchdown if he puts it on him, but Golf kind
Speaker 1: of stuttered a little bit and kind of threw Swift off,
Speaker 1: who then moved off the route and fanned out and
Speaker 1: then got Goff through it where he was previously in
Speaker 1: complete pass. And I think that just the kind of
Speaker 1: stuff when Dan Campbell says in the press conference last week,
Speaker 1: we need him to be better golf, But I just
Speaker 1: think this is who golf is. They're well coached. They
Speaker 1: made the zone five times today, more than the Rams,
Speaker 1: and then didn't get one. That's the problem. Didn't get one.
Speaker 1: And it's amazing, like a cup to me in the
Speaker 1: situation are great and they're making a very good stafford
Speaker 1: look better. You know what I mean, Like, I think
Speaker 1: it goes both ways for Cup to be this good.
Speaker 1: It's awesome, And yes they did. They didn't meet it
Speaker 1: at midfield after the game. Jared Goff and show nickveigh.
Speaker 1: We don't have to hear about that anymore. The lines
Speaker 1: are oh and seven, but spicy oh and seven, the
Speaker 1: rams six and one, which takes us to Sunday Night football. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: no Nick Shook this week. We had some technical difficulties. Nick.
Speaker 1: We look forward to you next week. It's not the
Speaker 1: same without the pipe to Sunday Night football. A lot
Speaker 1: of people have said that to him. First, let's take
Speaker 1: a break in the insulted Michael Pittman for the touchdown
Speaker 1: toe Al Michael's with a call for NBC. The Michael
Speaker 1: Pittman touchdown just a jump off. Carson wants throws up
Speaker 1: there and he let's his receiver and make a play,
Speaker 1: and that he did, the clinching touchdown in a thirty
Speaker 1: to eighteen Colts win over the Niners are just terrible
Speaker 1: in their own building. That team has no home field advantage,
Speaker 1: and they really at two and three two and four.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I don't know they have any hope. Mark.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the Cults, who in a game with
Speaker 1: miserable weather, show up and get the job done. And
Speaker 1: a team that was left for dead uh at the
Speaker 1: start of this month is going to enter it in
Speaker 1: very good shape relatively. Yeah. I think in a game
Speaker 1: like this where I mean like four or five of
Speaker 1: these a year, where the weather is a legitimate factor,
Speaker 1: and you know, Carson Wentz did enough. I thought that
Speaker 1: this was a game where pass interference played a huge role,
Speaker 1: that the Niners had ninety seven yards of p I
Speaker 1: penalties and they lead directly to Cult scores. And Wentz
Speaker 1: had that one would be interception that looked awful initially
Speaker 1: on tape, but it was actually ruled a fumble. But
Speaker 1: he made some throws too, and like they did enough,
Speaker 1: They did enough down the stretch. I I'm I don't
Speaker 1: come away like I think you got Greg. I think
Speaker 1: you're a bigger Wentz and Cults fan than I am. Um,
Speaker 1: But they I they steamrolled, basically to me, a Niners
Speaker 1: team that has me depressed about football. They've just been good.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't had a huge Wentz fan was
Speaker 1: banging the went could drum all offseason. How are you
Speaker 1: I have not been, Um, I've just said he's been
Speaker 1: a solid you be this year. This game was pretty
Speaker 1: typical of that. He'll he'll make one or two head
Speaker 1: scratching plays, but for the most part, he's played well
Speaker 1: in tricky situations. Pittman has become a guy. When the
Speaker 1: balls in the air, you just think he's gonna go
Speaker 1: get it. I mean, he is aggressive, he's nasty's he
Speaker 1: is really gotten better and they need him. You know,
Speaker 1: they didn't have Hilton tonight. Um Campbell's not coming back.
Speaker 1: Mole Alei Cox makes a play every week, and then
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor is becoming a truly elite back. I mean
Speaker 1: the way he waits and then explodes and his vision
Speaker 1: is like night and day from a year ago. And
Speaker 1: you compare that to San Francisco who I think they're
Speaker 1: kind of similar teams, similar injury situations, similar mid level quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: similar coaches with the reputation to play call really well.
Speaker 1: But I tell you what, there's a lot of open
Speaker 1: receivers and a lot of better play calls on the
Speaker 1: cult side of things tonight than the forty nine. You
Speaker 1: can not watch this game and think that the forty
Speaker 1: Niners are the better coach team on offense. It just
Speaker 1: hasn't looked that way this season. Mark, where are you
Speaker 1: at on your Kyle Shanahan fan club membership? Are you
Speaker 1: still a dues paying member? Now that they are two
Speaker 1: and four and now it doesn't look particularly like a
Speaker 1: team ready to turn the corner. And and I think,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, I just don't think you could really play
Speaker 1: I and three turnovers in this game, and some backbreaking
Speaker 1: turnovers at that, I don't think he just couldn't throw
Speaker 1: the ball tonight part all right, we can make excuses
Speaker 1: for the weather and all that, but to me, it's
Speaker 1: it's Jimmy g is part of the problem here. But
Speaker 1: now you have the trade Lens being injured. So that
Speaker 1: keeps the situation at bay in terms of a controversy,
Speaker 1: or does it. We'll find out what's going on with
Speaker 1: Lance next week. But it feels like, in case of emergency,
Speaker 1: break the Lance glass. It's time. Well it is, it's
Speaker 1: absolutely time, because at this point you did I didn't.
Speaker 1: Well I'll tell you why, because I heard them, you know,
Speaker 1: sound checking the song beforehand. So I knew it was
Speaker 1: being prepped, used to make sure that it plays out correctly.
Speaker 1: And then the minute Mark says something, interrupt him and
Speaker 1: get your giggles, and everyone goes home and sleeps in
Speaker 1: their beds. Wow, you actually you completely nailed that whole thing.
Speaker 1: I did, get my giggles, and I will sleep in
Speaker 1: my bed, smile on my face. The thing about hold
Speaker 1: on Jimmy g and I know he suddenly could throw
Speaker 1: the ball. They had that three place seventy yard touchdown
Speaker 1: five where they could throw the ball. So I mean
Speaker 1: for me though, but you asked like where I mean,
Speaker 1: I see that. I see what you're talking about. The
Speaker 1: three play seventy yard drive got him back in the game.
Speaker 1: But for me, it's like you watch these Garoppolo games
Speaker 1: and there's just more bad than good week week. You're
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, and the bet in the bet, and
Speaker 1: like you know, when they were out on on offense,
Speaker 1: the better players on the field where Darius Leonard, who
Speaker 1: has been a total beast like Quitty pay total game
Speaker 1: change scenario, and I you asked where am I? Where
Speaker 1: am I in the Niners? And it's kind of like
Speaker 1: when you're trying to like unhook yourself from a gym,
Speaker 1: and it takes like two months to get through to
Speaker 1: you know, the people on the telephone to like just
Speaker 1: to have you stop, and you're stuck in that thing,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of stuck in the Niners things. Well
Speaker 1: they're like, well, you can't, you can't quit the gym
Speaker 1: because you haven't moved out of the area. And it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not in the San Francisco area. It's like,
Speaker 1: are you in California? Yes, did you say that Kyle
Speaker 1: Shannon was not gonna win just one Super Bowl but multiple? Yes,
Speaker 1: I did say that, Well, you cannot leave the fan club. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't leave now. I'm not leaving now. But it
Speaker 1: is like we could give him the chance tonight to
Speaker 1: leave the club, because here's the thing, Like I I
Speaker 1: just I think that the plan is not worked and
Speaker 1: like I'm not those gonna sit around and tell you
Speaker 1: he's the best this or that and the Niners are
Speaker 1: gonna win multiple NFC. There are four and a half
Speaker 1: games behind. It's better than the song. By the way,
Speaker 1: you could play that they're four and a half back,
Speaker 1: Like if this is the baseball team, Like you could
Speaker 1: put a magic number up for eliminating the forty niners
Speaker 1: in this division's only it's like being about twelve back
Speaker 1: in a baseball season at mid season. They're running game.
Speaker 1: I know Elijah Mitchell ended up having the same numbers
Speaker 1: as Taylor, but it's not the same running game. It's
Speaker 1: it's the lowest point of the Shanahan era. I don't
Speaker 1: even think that's debatable because they always had great excuse,
Speaker 1: great you know, context for why they were struggling before.
Speaker 1: This was not supposed to be that year. And while
Speaker 1: they've had injuries, a lot of teams have had injuries,
Speaker 1: and they've they I'm surprised. And then and they've mortgaged
Speaker 1: their mortgage their future picks wise, I mean, it's all
Speaker 1: about trade land. Why Shanahan. It seems like he doesn't
Speaker 1: know exactly what to do. Like they ran the ball
Speaker 1: great in that first drive, they get set up in
Speaker 1: the red zone after the Jonathan Taylor fumble on the
Speaker 1: second drive, and then they go they try to be aggressive,
Speaker 1: let Jimmy g throw the ball, doesn't throw it well,
Speaker 1: end up kicking a field goal. And then when you
Speaker 1: get to the end of the first half, they kind
Speaker 1: of were letting the Colts run the clock out because
Speaker 1: they didn't even want to get the ball back for
Speaker 1: Jimmy g because they didn't think he could score in
Speaker 1: the rain. So that there's a lot going on now
Speaker 1: if you're a Colts fan. And uh yes, the Oldzeuser
Speaker 1: picked him to win the division. I always thought when out,
Speaker 1: Thank you Paul rud I always thought that Wentz could
Speaker 1: have this bounce back season. He's been up and down,
Speaker 1: and he was up and down on Sunday, of course,
Speaker 1: but I think he's got a little juice this season now,
Speaker 1: and you look at it. They can somehow and it's
Speaker 1: not as somehow. The Titans are playing great football right now.
Speaker 1: And I would never go against Grave Digger because Grave
Speaker 1: Digger savage. You boys with some trash talking then backed
Speaker 1: it up, correct. Grave Digger hasn't savaged anyone. I would
Speaker 1: like it. He could, he could have he could have Savage.
Speaker 1: It's like Savage with the smile. The listener didn't know
Speaker 1: and the viewers didn't know that. After our TV taping
Speaker 1: on Friday, as Mark and Gregor are walking out of
Speaker 1: the studio getting ready to smiles on their faces to
Speaker 1: begin their weekend graver grave Digger said, what it didn't
Speaker 1: even register with me, didn't he literally the listeners do
Speaker 1: know because grave grave Digger told this story earlier in
Speaker 1: the show. He said, uh, sorry for losing your locks
Speaker 1: something Greg's earlier point like, he said it in such
Speaker 1: nice action that it didn't leave me stunned, and like
Speaker 1: driving home staring a thousands into the story you tell now.
Speaker 1: But anyway, if they win, if they beat these Titans
Speaker 1: at home on Halloween, I guess what you got the
Speaker 1: Jets and Jags waiting for you home the next two
Speaker 1: weeks after that, and all of a sudden, the Cults
Speaker 1: are right in the thicker thing. They're they're gonna be
Speaker 1: in the They can be in the a f C
Speaker 1: wild card race. Again. We have an extra game this season.
Speaker 1: Even if they that too, they got to win that game.
Speaker 1: If they lose that game, they're out. They're out of
Speaker 1: the division race. But either way, I think they can
Speaker 1: be playing games that matter in week sixteen seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 1: which you know you wouldn't have necessarily this way. I
Speaker 1: don't know. If they beat the Titans next week, there
Speaker 1: one game out with the Jets and Jags up next
Speaker 1: that's all. That all works mathematically. But if each of
Speaker 1: these teams were like human beings in a room, like
Speaker 1: the Cults would not catch my eye. Like, I understand
Speaker 1: what you're saying. You're in the middle there. Hey, all
Speaker 1: you can ask for as a fan is to be
Speaker 1: playing meaningful games like this. This done. He'll do this
Speaker 1: with with fifteen teams. But it's like the Cults are
Speaker 1: just sort of a bland mix. Like I. I also
Speaker 1: appreciate that they're sturdy, they're well coached, says the guy
Speaker 1: in the Hawaiian shirt. Suddenly you feel like speaking up
Speaker 1: on the show. That's nice of you. All right, I
Speaker 1: think we should shut these Okay, it's been it's been
Speaker 1: a tough one. Thank you. Frank's um. All right, that's it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to like I did not that by
Speaker 1: the way. That's like I don't mean to say that
Speaker 1: to Erica. Then we close the show. That feels you know,
Speaker 1: you did what you did and you can't take it back.
Speaker 1: It happened. What about either what about her or whoever
Speaker 1: else playing the music while I'm talking on a show.
Speaker 1: She's certainly that you know, she's accountable. I hope she
Speaker 1: is about him. You guys could talk about it probably. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, Mark, if it really bothers you, I'll
Speaker 1: stop doing that. I'm really sorry. I don't mind it
Speaker 1: too much. She said, go ahead and say no, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say anything else because it's not it's that
Speaker 1: or some other female in place saying something about me
Speaker 1: like that's prerecorded. Will we know you like that? We'll
Speaker 1: be back on Tuesday with a special guest, rachela new
Speaker 1: to the company, rising industry titan. Some say evidence to
Speaker 1: suggest this host of NFL game debut, Well, there's the
Speaker 1: evidence right there is doing nice numbers over under on
Speaker 1: how many times that will be mentioned on during the
Speaker 1: Tuesday time we spent with her. I'm putting that at
Speaker 1: eighteen and a half. We'll set it at eighteen and
Speaker 1: a half. I'll pound the over on that one and
Speaker 1: a half. Um, all right, so that's what's coming. Now
Speaker 1: we're just all being mocked. Think he's just opening up
Speaker 1: the drops folder, just pressing everybody. So we'll be back Tuesday.
Speaker 1: That was the entire Jets team before kickoff today. It
Speaker 1: only took one dart. All right, that's it. We'll be
Speaker 1: back yes Tuesday. So check that out and uh until
Speaker 1: the Dan hansonsnning off for a quiet storm, the old
Speaker 1: Boss Ricky Hollywood, and the grave digger nick Day for
Speaker 1: the grape digger sticking a booze sound did heed the call.
Speaker 1: H