1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: welcome back to straight Fire. It is Thursday, December three. 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Big show ahead today. I've got to start by giving 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: everybody a thank you for the d m s, the 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Facebook messages, Yes a lot of you apparently have Facebook. Uh. 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: For the Nimesh Patel interview. He's a funny guy and 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: if you guys follow his stuff on Instagram or YouTube, 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: he's a rising comedian star. And listen, we do to 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: a lot of sports. Obviously this is a sports podcast. 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: We do a lot of gambling. Uh. We do a 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: lot of fun guests, and occasionally we're gonna mix it 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: up and throw a curveball at you. And based on 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: the response, I think we're gonna try to work in 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: some comedians every now and then. Although some of the 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: suggestions for who to get next, guys, come on, listen. 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: I can't just go get a bunch of a listeners 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: right out the gate. This podcast only been around since August, 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: but we are growing and we're loving all the great feedback. 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for that, and listen, we got another tremendous 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: interview today. Clinton portis former Washington Redskin running back. He 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: was on Washington when they were the Redskin, so I 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: can say that he played for the Denver Broncos. I mean, 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: this guy was on one of the legendary college football 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: teams of all time, one of the most stacked rosters 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: at the U. All about the U baby, uh Clinton Portist. 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: That's a little bit later in the podcast. I have 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: to say, we have a huge NBA trade to talk about. 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't see it coming, but it happened. 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: We'll get to that shortly, but I gotta start with 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: three takeaways from Steelers nineteen Ravens fourteen. A brutal loss. 31 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: Uh for these Steelers, who were favored by ten. They 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: don't get the cover because of a freakish trace McSorley. Yes, 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: the third string backup came in for an injured r 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: G three, hooked up with Hollywood Brown, who doesn't do 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: anything at all ever, and he catches a pass, gets 36 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: lucky with a move, the cornerback falls down and boom, 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: he's gone. I think it was like sixty seven yards 38 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: for a touchdown and that covered the spread for Baltimore. UM. 39 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: But the three takeaways from the game. Number one, this 40 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: a cl injury to Bud Dupree, the edge dresher for 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: the Steelers is massive. There is just no way, UH 42 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: to make this like it's not a big deal. This 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: is enormous. Okay. This is a Pittsburgh defense that's already 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: lost its middle linebacker Devon Bush. He went down, I 45 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: believe against Cleveland, and now you lose your edge rusher 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: in bud Dupree. I mean he lives in the backfield 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: most afternoons on Sunday. Okay, the guy had eight sacks 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: this season. On Wednesday alone, he and t J. Watt 49 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: combined for five tackles for lost those two coming off 50 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: the edge. And we've talked about it here on the 51 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: show all football season. They remind me of what San 52 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: Francisco had in the Super Bowl that flustered Patrick Mahomes 53 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: for about fifty minutes. If you can get the pressure 54 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: off the edges and pressure Mahomes, that's your best bet 55 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 1: to stop him. And of course the pass rush wore 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: down late in the game, bing bang Boom Chiefs. When 57 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: Mahomes is the hero um that's a big loss in 58 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: dupri And I was doing some reading late last night 59 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: and it apparently bud Dupree is gonna be is backed 60 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: up by a third round rookie named Alex Highsmith. I 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: mean that is that's brutal. I don't know if there's 62 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: anybody out there on the waiver wire they can go 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: pick up, but my goodness, that that is a just 64 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: a massive loss. Teams are gonna easily be able to 65 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: shift a double team to t. J. Watt on the 66 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: other edge. Um, and you won't have to help on 67 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: bud Dupree and bud Dupree side given there's a rookie 68 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: over there. So that's number one big loss for the Steelers. 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: Number two. I would watch a documentary on the fall 70 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: from grace of r G three. I cannot believe how 71 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: bad he looked as a starting quarterback given what this 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: guy was when he entered the league. Remember, but Dupre 73 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: t J. Watt are basing him down. I get that 74 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: you're facing one of the best defenses in the league, 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: but we're talking about seven for twelve passing for thirty 76 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: three yards. This is a guy who was the offensive 77 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: rookie of the year over Andrew Luck and I know 78 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: that was like five knee injuries ago, but r G 79 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: three's pick six was just I mean, what what is 80 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: he even doing. Um, this is a guy who was 81 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: a super star on the path to superstardom in Washington, 82 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: and this is a guy who went from Remember he 83 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: was like a good recruit, but Texas said, you know what, 84 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: we'd have you play in the secondary. And he's like, now, 85 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: I'll go to Baylor and be a quarterback. And he 86 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: was just a quarterback in the Big twelve. And all 87 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, out of nowhere, he wins a high 88 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: school trophy, is the number two overall pick, beats out 89 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck for Rookie of the Year, gets the Redskins 90 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: to the playoffs against the Seahawks. And if you guys 91 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: remember that game, and I still remember it because RG 92 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: three was so dynamic, it was tough not to like him. 93 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: R G three gets injured, they leave him in and 94 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: he gets hurt again, and you know, obviously Shanahan took 95 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: a lot of heat for that, and r G three 96 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: was just never the same after that. Um, and just 97 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: watching him out there, I'm stunned that, frankly that he's 98 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: still in the league. And again, I know, maybe it's 99 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: an overreaction against the number one defense in the NFL, 100 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: but there's just no confidence. He basically had two nice runs. Uh, 101 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: scrambling for his life. Um, I don't know, guys, it's 102 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: been It's quite a fall from grace um for r 103 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: G three. My third takeaway for this game is the 104 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh offense has been sputtering to put up mildly. And 105 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: it's weird to say that because there's so much freaking 106 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: talent on the outside. I mean Washington Johnson, Juju, Claypool Ebron, 107 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: who has the best nickname in football, dropped him as prime. 108 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: I laughed out loud the first time I heard that. 109 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: Um and been through fifty one times on a Wednesday 110 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: football game against a Baltimore team that has been decimated 111 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: on the front seven of the defense. The secondary was 112 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: largely intact, although they got dinged up in the game, 113 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: and he threw fifty one times a very strange game plan. 114 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: Snell runs hard, I know, Connor was out. McFarland runs hard, 115 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: young kid. Um. I just I was a little surprised 116 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: by that, and you know, also frustrated that Claypool did 117 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: not get me fourteen points that I needed in fantasy. 118 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: So I will now miss the playoffs in my five league. 119 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm pretty pretty pissed about that. Um Claypool 120 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: entered with like ten points, wasn't even in. Uh, sorry 121 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: to ramble about my fantasy TV. Was not in the 122 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: game when they were near the end zone and I 123 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: think it was in the late third early fourth quarter. Uh, 124 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: and then like the final drive, he wasn't even in. Like, 125 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing. Pittsburgh's offense is just 126 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: a little bit all over the place, and given the 127 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: Bud Duprete injury, it concerns me that the Steelers are 128 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: are gonna be able to get to the super Bowl. 129 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: Against the Chiefs, I don't know. We're gonna find out 130 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: how good this Pittsburgh team is. They've got to go 131 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: play Washington next, which is like a sandwich spot. Okay, 132 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna be nine ten point favorites. And then they 133 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: faced the Buffalo Bills, who quietly are probably the third 134 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: best team in the a f C right now. And 135 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: if you remember last year Buffalo Pittsburgh played, I think 136 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: it was a Sunday night game. Duck Hodges was just 137 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: to turnover machine. I don't know if he had all 138 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: five turnovers, but the Steelers had five. I remember that 139 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 1: because I was on them in that game and Josh 140 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: Allen got them the W and Pittsburgh missed out on 141 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's a revenge spot. That's a big game. 142 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: They're not going to care about Washington, so dangerous spot 143 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: this weekend for Pittsburgh. We'll get to that tomorrow on 144 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: the podcast. But those are my takeaways from Wednesday Afternoon Football, 145 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: which I enjoyed greatly. Let's move to the NBA quickly 146 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: before we get to our guest, Clinton Portis and on 147 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: Sure you guys saw it late Wednesday afternoon. John Wall's 148 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: nine year run in Washington UM actually ended up being 149 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: ten years, but he didn't play last season because he 150 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: was hurt. UM nine year run is over. He got 151 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: shipped to the Houston Rockets. And the funniest take, actually, 152 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: there were two really really good ones that I saw 153 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: on this one. UM. The funniest takes for John Wall 154 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: getting traded to Houston for Russell Westbrook is number one. 155 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: John Wall and James Harden are going to be a 156 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: stimulus package to Houston. Strip clubs couldn't stop laughing at that. 157 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: And the second one was Russell Westbrook got another triple double. 158 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: He's now in his third different uniform in two years, 159 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: which is you know, pretty telling. Listen, I've had a 160 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: probably a too strong of a negative vibe to a 161 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook. Yes, I respect his hustle. I mean the 162 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: guy tries hard. He plays hard. Doesn't play smart, I 163 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: don't think, but he plays hard. Um. And I mean, 164 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: there's a reason Kevin Durant walked away. There's a reason 165 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: that Paul George walked away. There's a reason that James 166 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: Harden said, I don't think this rustling is gonna work out. Now, 167 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: you could counter with, well, what would you pick Jay 168 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: staying okay see or go to the greatest uh, one 169 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: of the greatest teams in NBA history, in the Golden 170 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: State Warriors. That was easy for Durant. You know, je, 171 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: what would you do if you're Paul George Kawhi Leonard 172 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: tells me, he tells you, come on, come home to 173 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: l A and play with me in the clips and 174 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: will take down Lebron. Have to turn that down, uh, 175 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: And now you know didn't work out for Harden. But 176 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: it's never worked out for Harden. He couldn't get along 177 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: with Dwight Howard. He can't get along with Chris Paul 178 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: and now Russell Westbrook. Um. So I can see how 179 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: that can be viewed both ways. I just I don't 180 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: know how long Bradley Beale is going to enjoy the 181 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook experience because Russell Westbrook goes out there two 182 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: stat pad for Russell Westbrook. Obviously he wants to win 183 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: basketball games and he's an intense competitor. Um. And I 184 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: do know that there's some people out there who listen 185 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: to the podcast who are friendly with Russ and they 186 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: say I've been way too hard on him over the years, 187 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: And I get that. I call it like I see it, guys. Um. 188 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: I did comment over the weekend that I've watched football 189 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: games where there's been announcers. Um. Tony Romo was just 190 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: carrying water for Tom Brady Sunday refused to criticize Brady 191 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: almost the entire game. Interception. Well, Mike Evans, you know 192 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: that's a hot round. You gotta know what's going on. 193 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: And Bruce Arians, what are you doing with the play calling? 194 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: Like Romo just doesn't want to criticize Brady and then 195 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: you go to Monday Night Football with Brian Greasy. I mean, 196 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how many times the Who's announcers Levy 197 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: tease up Greasy with an opportunity to say, man, it's 198 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: time to get on. Move on from Carson Wentz. He's 199 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: an abomination. Uh, let's get Jalen Hurts and Greasy a quarterback. 200 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's like a fraternity all these quarterbacks. Greasy 201 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: refused to go in. I mean, just bad opportunities and 202 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: these guys can get too close. And one of the 203 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: things that's gotten me where I am, for better or 204 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: for worse, is that I'm a truth teller. I call 205 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: it like I see it, maybe say too much. Sometimes 206 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure my mouth has got me in trouble and 207 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: it will again. Um, But the reality is, Russell Westbrook's 208 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: not a winning basketball player. He's just not. Again, I'm 209 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: not hammering the guy as a winning player. It's not 210 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: him Like he's not a great shooter. Um. He needs 211 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: the ball in his hand. He pounds the ball and 212 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: dribbles almost more than anyone in the league. Him and 213 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: Harden obviously are right there at the top. But listen, 214 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna work out with Bradley Beale. 215 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: Does he ask for a trade before the All Star 216 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: break after the All Star break. Um, we know his 217 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: affinity for Los Angeles. I don't see how that happens 218 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: at this point, although I would just have to assume 219 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: that Kyle Kuzma is somehow involved. UM, I don't know, guys. 220 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: You know, I know there's some people excited about Washington, Oh, 221 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: Scott Brooks and Russell Westbrook reunited. Hooray, Like okay, um 222 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: asked for the Houston aspect. It's tough for me to 223 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: wrap my head around the idea of hardened John Wall 224 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: and Boogie Cousins. Um, I just don't know how that's 225 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: gonna work. John Wall and Boogie Cousins, of course played 226 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: together at Kentucky Reunited, and it feels so good. That 227 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: was a stack Kentucky team. What did they do? They 228 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: got their butts kicked. I believe it was in the 229 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: Elite eight by West Virginia, and I think I remember 230 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: that game because I was on West Virginia. Huggins at 231 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: the time was at w VU and just always was 232 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: good with the zones and Kentucky couldn't shoot. And I 233 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: think West Virginia one by fifty points. Great, great game. 234 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: And listen, John Wall entered the NBA on Opening Night 235 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: when they had player introductions, and you can go look 236 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: it up on YouTube. It has like three million views. 237 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: John Wall when they introduced him, he does the Dougie 238 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: and it's a great dance. Like he did a great 239 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: version of the Dougie and folks like that may have 240 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: been like his highlight in Washington. And I'm not hammering 241 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: the guy. That's reality. Nine seasons. You remove this past 242 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: season when he was injured. John Wall won three playoff series, 243 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: never got out of the second round. He was the 244 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: number one overall pick in the draft. And I don't 245 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: think you can call the guy a bust um. He 246 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: was a very good player. He is never an m 247 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: VP candidate, at least not like a real MVP candidate. 248 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: And I just I don't see how on earth John 249 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: Wall is gonna work with James Harden. Like John Wall 250 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: is a point guard. James Harden used to be a 251 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: shooting guard. He's now it converted into a point guard. 252 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: And I guess walls ceiling was. He was the third 253 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: team All NBA. He was All Defense, second team in 254 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: like he's made some all star teams. I don't know 255 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: what that's worth. I just don't see how those two coexist. 256 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, they appear to be pretty cool 257 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: guys and they're enjoying life and they're very wealthy and 258 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: they'll get along. But on the court, I don't know 259 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: Wall will become back to where he was. I mean, 260 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: this is a guy who's had two brutal injuries. Um. 261 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: I think it was um he he had a heel 262 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: injury and he had like an infection in that after 263 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: the surgery, and then he slipped in his house. I 264 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: think he was in the shower and fell and ruptured 265 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: as Achilles like. I mean, he's had an unlucky run 266 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: here man and John Wall was an awesome talent. Again, 267 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: talent is different from do you make everyone else better? 268 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: And again, and I'm not carrying water for Steph Curry here, 269 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: but he's always made others better. His reshaping the geometry 270 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: of the court is he pulls everybody out past the 271 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: three point line because you have to respect his three 272 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: and that gives open space for the cuts and the 273 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: screens and everything. And that's Currie makes others better. Um. 274 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't think Kyrie Irving makes others better. I don't 275 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: know that James hardened despite the lofty stats makes others better. 276 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: We know Lebron certainly does. Um, I just I don't 277 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: know if John Wall and Russell Westbrook do. And listen 278 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: that it's tough to make other players better. Uh, that 279 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: that's what separates the greats from just the very goods. 280 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: So um, for now, I'll reserve judgment on the Rockets 281 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: in the West because let's see what happens if Harden 282 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: gets shipped to Brooklyn. But just for the people who 283 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: are saying, well, the Rockets say they're not trading him, 284 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: go look it up. On the twenty November, that would 285 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: be ten days ago from today, the Washington Wizards GM 286 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: said we have no plans to trade John Wall this 287 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: offseason or this season or whatever it was, no plans 288 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: to trade. Ten days later, he's gone. So I don't 289 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: want to hear his lip service from the owner of 290 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: the Rockets of the GMO. Oh, we're not trading James Harden. 291 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: We'll see what kind of offers you get. Okay. So 292 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: that wraps up a huge trade in the NBA, and 293 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: now it's time to welcome in a guy who was 294 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: an NFL star in his pro Clinton Ports is that bad, 295 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: bad boy in the NFL with Washington. He was very 296 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: good with Denver and UM. I do a show with 297 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: him on Fox Sports called Talk the Line Sunday's right 298 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: before NFL kickoff for the first for that hour before kickoff, 299 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: we do gambling me him and Jeff Schwartz and uh 300 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: Clinton Ports. Great guy, great interview. I hope you enjoy it. 301 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: Jason likes to think he knows everything when it comes 302 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: to sports. I know what sports dance want, but for 303 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. Let's 304 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: just say I know a guy who knows a guy. 305 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: He knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into straight fire. 306 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: One of the most fun running backs I can remember 307 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: in the last couple of decades in the NFL. I 308 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: started doing some work with him at Fox Talk to Line. 309 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: He's a comedian, he's based. Clinton Portis in the building. 310 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: What's up, Clinton, what's going on? Man? Appreciate Yeah, Hey, 311 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: thanks for taking the time. I know you're a busy guy. 312 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to get into Clinton Portis business because he's, uh, 313 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, a comedian and dude, I want to start here. 314 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: I was just looking at the last time the Washington 315 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Football Club made the playoffs and you were the star 316 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: on that team fifteen years ago. That was the last 317 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: time they won a playoff game two thousand five. And Clinton, 318 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm not trying to bash your teammates, 319 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: but I was looking at that roster. Holy cow, you 320 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: carry that team is your back? Okay from carrying those 321 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: Washington Football club man. You know what's crazy that I 322 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: was probably one of the closest teams that I ever 323 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: played on, and I think we did something so special 324 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: because everyone had to jael together. Everyone knew their role 325 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: and went out and competed. I think we had to 326 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: win like six or seven games in the road to 327 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: get into the playoffs. And as a team, everyone came together. 328 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: It was crazy. And then, um, if you look at 329 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Washington period that time, they had Arenus in, Karan Butler, 330 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: uh and they were competing with the Calves. So the 331 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: city was on fire at that time. Like it was 332 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: Arenus importance and Moss and Butler and hey, like the 333 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: city was crazy. That's That's probably the craziest time or 334 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: year that I ever had in sports. Wow, even more 335 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: than at the you where I can only assume it 336 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: was crazy. We'll get to that later. I know Karen 337 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: Butler a little bit. I've done some work with him 338 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: and FS one super great guy, And you're right. He 339 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: was on that Wizards team that was battling with Lebron. 340 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: I think it was with Deshaun Stevenson, maybe Shaun Stevenson, 341 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: Brendan Haywood Man that team. Bro. They just kept running 342 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: into Lebron. That was the only issue. Anybody else then 343 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: Arenas carry us to where we need to be, but 344 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: they kept running into Lebron. I think, let me ask, 345 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: Lebron told him that the free throw line that he 346 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: was gonna miss and them he missed the two free 347 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: throw brutal. That that was brutal for Gilbert Arenas. But 348 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: I want to ask, like, do you what do you 349 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: attribute Washington's team being so unified? Is that kind of 350 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: about the coach? I think it was Joe Gibbs at 351 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: the time. Was it the veteran quarterback in Brunelle or 352 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: I mean, who who was the locker room leader? Was 353 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: it you? Well, you know, actually Brunelle got hurt that year, 354 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: so I think someone else curried us in. Maybe Todd Collins, 355 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: uh if I'm not mistaken, but uh, I just think 356 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: it was a team coming together. Man, the entire coach 357 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: and staff. Everybody bought into what coach Gibbs was selling. 358 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: And you coach Gibbs could get that entire team to 359 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: run through a brick wall and if you look, it 360 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: was just tough, structured defense. It was like, hey, we're 361 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: gonna be on a nail by that. This game is 362 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: gonna finish thirteen and teen or ten to set event 363 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: or ten and six. And it was just one of 364 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: those hard talk teams like where everybody bought into the 365 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: coach's identity. Everybody believed in the coach and that coaching staff. 366 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: And the worst thing that happened was after that season 367 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: that we came so close because we should have beat 368 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: Seattle in Seattle, and we had already been uh Chicago 369 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: I think earlier that season, so we would have had 370 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 1: to play them. Anyways, the Super Bowl ended up with 371 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: the Stillers, and was it the Stilisant Bears. Might have 372 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: been Steelers Seahawks. Yeah, that's a good question, Yeah, Stiller Seahawks. Anyway, 373 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: whoever it was, we had we had already beaten those teams, 374 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: uh that season in two thousand and five, so we 375 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: were maybe a player away and they switched our entire offense. 376 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: They took the chemistry away and made the huge jump 377 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: in and trying to correct it, and it set us back. 378 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that was probably the closest 379 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: team that we had. And I'm thinking of the usung heroes, 380 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: the the Marcus Washington and Ryan Clark's before every before 381 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: the World War exposed to him a LaVar playing at 382 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: a high level. Uh, Chris Samuel's Like you had so 383 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: many unsung heroes on that team that it just came 384 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: together and like we were inseparable. What was it like 385 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: as a young guy living in d C when when uh, 386 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: you know, the the Wizards were good. Sean Taylor I 387 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: think was on that two thousand five team, you guys, Yeah, 388 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: I mean you were like a big guy on campus 389 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: in d C. Was that it was just popping off? Um? 390 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: You know it was it was just you know how 391 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: you're in a time and you don't even realize it. 392 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: You know, like normally when you go through something or 393 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: this is like the height of your career, you don't 394 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: realize how hot you all are. And I think we 395 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: at just gotten back together, like we had just gotten 396 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: the band back together. Myself, Santana and Sean Ti like 397 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: that was a you and we needed we needed Santana 398 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 1: so bad, and Lavernius Coles wanted out, and you know, 399 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: they swapped Labernius and Santana and then all of a sudden, 400 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: Chris Cooley came alive. Like it was just one of 401 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: those times where it's like you're growing up in the 402 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: neighborhood and you come home and your neighbor is already 403 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: sitting in the house, eat at at your dinner table. 404 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: You know, That's how it was. It was one of 405 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: those doors open type team, like all your teammates would 406 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: come by the house, or you all went to dinner, 407 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: or you all hung out. And I don't think people 408 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: realize the importance are the role that that chemistry plays 409 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: in sports. And if you look at some of the 410 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: teams that when you know, you look at the lebron 411 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: led teams and they're constantly doing something together. You look 412 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: at uh the Brady, you know, you look at Tom 413 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: Brady and you wonder how these teams established um winning culture. 414 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: And that's it. You gotta have a locker room, that's one. 415 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: And once that locker room gets that focus and they 416 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: do it together. It's tough to beat those kind of teams. Yeah, 417 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: what about Daniel Snyder? I know he's taking a lot 418 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: of heat. Uh. You know, again, the franchise is going 419 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: big time downhill during the mix this season to win 420 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: the division. But that ain't saying much. Did you have 421 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: any interaction with him or I know the franchise is 422 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: going through a lot in recent years, but do you 423 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: remember your time with him when he was one of 424 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: the in the early days of him being the owner 425 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: of the team. Man, I love Dan Snyder. Man, Dan, 426 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: It's such a great guy on an off the field. 427 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: You know. I think he takes a lot of blame 428 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 1: for so much that he's not even involved in. You know. 429 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: And I was telling this to a Red Skin than 430 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: recently and they were like, yeah, Dan Snyder x y 431 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: Z fans hate him. Man, I said, why, you know, 432 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: why do fans hey Dan Snyder? Because if you look 433 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: back at whatever that gear was or whatever that request 434 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: was from the fans, he gave you exactly what you wanted. 435 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: Whenever my entire career in d C, whatever the fans, 436 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: whatever the noise was from the outside, Oh, they need 437 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: to do this or they need to acquire that person, 438 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: he went out and acquired um and then when it 439 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: didn't work, it was like they blamed him, but that's 440 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: what they asked for. So I always thought Dan took 441 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: a bad rap, a lot of negativity for whatever reason, 442 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: But in reality, it's just one of those guys who 443 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: was always trying to get his organization to the top, 444 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: and he did it in in spending early on back 445 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: in the day when when when organizations weren't spending money, 446 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: so it seemed crazy that he was spending so wildly. 447 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden they wanted him removed 448 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: and they wanted him to pass pass the torture, let 449 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: someone else running the organization. And when he did that, 450 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: he took all the blame for that as well. So 451 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: it's one of those situations that you can't win with. 452 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: And I think he's constantly trying, constantly trying to figure 453 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: out a way to get that organization back to glory. 454 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: Day's interesting. I you know, you hear you and hear 455 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: read a lot about him being kind of one of 456 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: these meddling owners who hasn't done well, But I hadn't 457 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: heard that perspective that you're kind of a fan, have 458 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: you guys kept in contact at all or no. Yeah, 459 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: he just had a birthday, you know. And he just 460 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: had a birthday right before Thanksgiving. So I think the 461 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: twenty three I spoke with him then, and we share 462 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: something in common that no one will ever be able 463 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: to break. And that's uh, you know Sean Taylor. And 464 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: you hate to um, you hate to bring that up, 465 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: but uh, Dan Tider was the one that knocked at 466 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: the door to tell me that Sean Taylor had passed. 467 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: And I remember opening the door and he just kind 468 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: of fell into my arm. So when you get those 469 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: kind of bonds, you you create those kind of uh 470 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: buns together. It's something that I never changed, you know, 471 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: whether I'm playing, whether I'm involved in the organization or not. 472 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: The respect that we will have for one another, knowing 473 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: the moments or the times that we've shared, will always 474 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: be there. Oh man, So he knocked on your door. 475 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming he'd never been to your house 476 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: before he got We were at we were at the 477 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: Mandarin or you in Miami. We had flew down, We 478 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: had flew down to meet the family and uh to 479 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: check on on Sean when the news broken. So we 480 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: had flew down. We stayed at the Mandam in Oriental 481 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: and you know, the doctor was in contact with Mr 482 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: Snyder or and you know, he was keeping us updated 483 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: and we were at we were at dinner and the 484 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: doctor kind of gave a call that the signs were 485 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: positive and things were, uh, we're looking up, you know, 486 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: and he just said that if Sean makes it through tonight, 487 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: then um, he has a chance. Like I feel good 488 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: about his recovery. And you know, I was going to 489 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: go back to the hospital and Dan was like, man, 490 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: you know, it's lit longe day. Sean needs to rest. 491 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: You should rest. We're gonna We're gonna go over the 492 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: first thing in the morning. And I just remember getting 493 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: to knock at the door and I looked at the 494 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: window and realized it was still dark. So I knew 495 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: it was bad news because it wasn't first thing in 496 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: the morning, so I hadn't overslept, and it was just 497 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: one of those like please, don't let this be what 498 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: I think it is. And I opened the door and 499 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: then just fell into my arms and was like he 500 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: didn't make it, And you know, we shared that moment 501 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: and it was forever because I saw the genuine and 502 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: Dan Snyder. No matter what people believe and no matter 503 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: what people think. Um, I saw a man shed tears 504 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: over my frame, like this was my homeboy, this was 505 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: my teammate. Uh and and for him to be affected 506 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: that the same way everyone else was, I think it 507 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: is what changed our bond. Man. Yeah, I can't. I 508 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: mean those Miami team you were on with uh, with 509 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: Sean Taylor, I think was Greg Olsen on one of 510 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: those teams. I mean, you guys were so loaded. You know, 511 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: Sean was actually a pulp on the team. It Read 512 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: was the me it Read was always saying, and our 513 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: our tight end was shocking and Winslow, Yeah, exactly, Our 514 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: tight ends was shocking and Winslow and uh it Read 515 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: was the leader of that defense. And you had Vince 516 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: Wilford over there, uh causing hell. You have Philip du 517 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: Kinnan one of my favorite players at all the time, 518 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: who was also my roommate, causing hell. That team was 519 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: just one of those teams where we competed, you know 520 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: Andre Johnson. Uh. The list goes on with with the 521 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: guys and the names that was on that list, But 522 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, just the stories that came with all of 523 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: those guys Read stayed in school when he could have left. 524 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: Andre Johnson red shirty because we had Santana and Reggie 525 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: Wayne at the wide receiver position. So Andre had to 526 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: red shirt and that was his first moment of of 527 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: just actually taking over at the receiver position, and Shocky 528 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: of course, was held on wheels. Uh. You look at 529 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: that defense, you had young guys and film with DJ 530 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: Williams at the lineback in position that we're making a 531 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: name for themselves. You look at that defensive line. You 532 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: had William Joseph and Vince Wilford that went on to 533 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: play in the NFL at a high level as well. 534 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: So it was his players throughout and we competed at everything. Yeah. 535 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: You you mentioned earlier about being on Washington at a time, 536 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: uh in d C and you didn't really know that 537 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: was the height of your career. I'm looking at this 538 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: Hurricanes team when you guys were so stacked into thousand one, 539 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean Clinton, the roster is basically like twenty guys 540 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: who played in the NFL. I mean, did you guys 541 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: at the time know, Oh man, this it doesn't get 542 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: better than this. This is one of the greatest collections 543 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: of talent in college football history. Well, you're saying twenty 544 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: guys that played in the NFL. You're talking about twenty 545 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: guys that were the best at their position for a 546 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: period of time. Not only did they played in the NFL, 547 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: they went on to make Pro Bowls and tops in 548 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: the organization at their position or throughout the NFL. And 549 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: when you think of that and you think of the 550 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: competition that we had on campus, are the work that 551 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: guys put in you could believe it, But at the 552 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: time that we were at the University of Miami, no 553 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: one knew that they were that. No one knew it 554 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: we would go down as one of the best safeties 555 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: of all time. You knew he had it in him, 556 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: but just some of the decisions he made in college 557 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: that led to him being so dominant in so great, 558 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, because he could have left school, but he chose, 559 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna pass up on this money, 560 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm coming back to school. And then two teams or 561 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: twenty three teams passed over him. So for him to 562 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: make it to the Ravens and to go on to 563 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: have a career that he had, you know, it did 564 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: it did so much for so many guys. When you 565 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: look at Andre Johnson. Uh, Andre was gonna leave school 566 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: with me, Phieling and Andrea was that was our recruit. 567 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: Andrea was gonna leave school with us, and his mom 568 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: stopped him and say, hey, one more year, babe, Like 569 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: one more year. And he go on to be the 570 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: second pick in the draft and the best player and 571 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: in the Texas franchise history of you. Actually, so there 572 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: was so many stories and so many decisions made within U, 573 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: within that collective group of guys that to see them 574 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: go on and have the success that they had, Like 575 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: the competition we had over a run over a period 576 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: of time when you're looking guys from you Edrin James, 577 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, when you're looking at Santana and Reggie 578 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: Wayne that don't get the credit they deserved that we're 579 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: so outstanding and detrimental at that time. You know, guys 580 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: like Roscoe Parrish, who people forget about, was so talented 581 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: and so good. Before slot receivers were getting there getting 582 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: their credit, these guys were already doing so. Uh. We 583 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: had so much talent on that team and there was 584 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: so much competition that once she got to the NFL, 585 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: you like, man, my homeboy was better than X Y Z, 586 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, when your homeboy get 587 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: this opportunity, they're like, Oh, that's the dude you were 588 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: talking about. You like, Hell, yeah, that's the dude I 589 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: was talking about. You know, is it is there any 590 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: way to put in context for the average listener just 591 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: sports fan who gambles on games, plays fantasy football, you know, 592 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: knows all the players, to put in the context what 593 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: it was like being a rock star on that team 594 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: on campus. I mean, I'm looking at the running backs 595 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: on that two thousand one team, Clinton Portis, Willis mcgahey, 596 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: Frank Gore, Naja Davenport. Those are four NFL players, Frank 597 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: Gores of the Hall of Fame, Clinton Portis mcgahey, historic careers. 598 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: Like were you guys, what was it like on campus? Well, 599 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: it was the same because you're leaving out Jared Payton. 600 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: Jared Payton was on that team, the son of Walter Payne, 601 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: one of the greatest players to ever play in the NFL. 602 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: And Jared Payne had the exact same talent that his 603 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: dad did. And you know, it was just unfortunately that 604 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 1: his father passed while we were in school. Because Jared Payton, 605 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: I tell anyone to this day. Jared Payton and Frank 606 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: Gore had the best vision and footwork that I've ever 607 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: seen to this day outside of Barry Sanders. Barry Sanders 608 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: was the only person I would say had better footwork 609 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: to those two guys. So being in being in a 610 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: mean room, and you know, and you know what, I 611 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: can't even doze off and take a nap right now, 612 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: because a young Willis that's hungry is gonna acquire some knowledge, 613 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: or a young Frankie g about to acquire some knowledge 614 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: and it's going to give them a step up. So 615 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: it was just constantly competition. And and you know, for 616 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: me and Frank, I think we formed one of those 617 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: bonds and relationship as well. That Frank was just one 618 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: of those guys that was so in love with football. 619 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: He wanted to learn everything that he could possibly learn 620 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: for his opportunity. So it was like taking Frank under 621 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: my wing. And every time I turn on the TV 622 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: still seeing Frank on the field, seeing how he's moving 623 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: up the charge, You're like, wow, man, like that's Frankie 624 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: g Like, that's that's my dag, that's my boy. So 625 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: you just got to be proud of it. Man, Yeah, 626 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: I want to quickly ask about the running backs. You know, 627 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned Frank Gore obviously, and you know, I looked 628 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: at two thousand five and what the running backs were 629 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: making and who was at the top, and you know, 630 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 1: it's a little surprising now that running backs the position 631 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: that everybody says, his dad, it doesn't matter. You could 632 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: just rotate and whoever you want. You know, Christian McCaffrey 633 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: sixteen million, Ze fifteen mill, Levion Bell thirteen million. But 634 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: people keep saying in the media that, you know, who 635 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: needs a running back? I don't know, Clinton, I mean, 636 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: you played the position. Running backs clearly matter. They're making 637 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: a lot of money. Well, if you if you don't 638 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: believe running backs matters, just go and look at the 639 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: teams that's played in the Super Bowl. You know, you 640 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: look at the San Francisco for your Niners, and how 641 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: dynamic their running game was last season, how detrimental their 642 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: running game was for them to get to the Super Bowl. 643 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: And if if Kyle Shanahan decided to run the ball 644 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: maybe three or four more times in that game, the 645 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: San Francisco for the Niners a Super Bowl chimps. That's 646 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: how important the running game is. You look at the 647 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, it wasn't Patrick Mahomes, it was Williams. 648 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: It was the running back that carried them through the playoffs. Now, 649 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: my Homes did all the old once they got back 650 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: into the game or once he got settled down, my 651 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: Homes took over and he deserved every dollar he got. 652 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: But to get to that point, it was the emergence 653 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: of Williams in the playoffs. You look back prior to that. 654 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: You look at the Atlanta Falcons, you know, and in 655 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: Devonte Freeman and Talvin Coleman in Atlanta, they ran to 656 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. All of a sudden, Europe, what was 657 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: the one to three three? You stopped running the ball? 658 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: You're talking about two more carries in the Atlanta Falcons 659 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: beat the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl. So 660 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: that goes to show you how important Seattle Seahawks would 661 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 1: have another Super Bowl ring if they hand Marshawn lynched 662 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: the ball. So you know, for those people who say, well, 663 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: the running back position is you can put anyone in it, 664 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: No you can't. Then the people that you put in 665 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: it have to appreciate their opportunity. That's the problem we 666 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: don't get the same opportunities we were getting. Back in 667 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: the day, running backs was getting the star. Running back 668 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: was getting twenty two, two thirty carries a game. And 669 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: now you're looking at running backs and they're getting you know, 670 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: ten and fifteen carries a game, and the wide receiver 671 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: is getting ten or fifteen attempts a game. You know, 672 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: I was looking at the stats, uh for the Pittsburgh 673 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 1: Steelers and at one point claypool are a matter of fact, 674 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: Dean Johnson had seven attempts in the first half. He 675 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: had seven seven attempts in the first half. So you 676 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: just look, the ball is being spread around because of 677 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: surpassed the league. But I still turn around and handed 678 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: to my guys, Christian McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook. Those are some 679 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: of the better players in the NFL, Ezekiel Elliott. When 680 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: you give those those guys the ball on a consistent basis, 681 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: they give you the production that you expected. You look 682 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: at Nick Chubb, if you look at Derrick Henry almost 683 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: taking the Tennessee Titans to the Super Bowl last year, 684 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: you look at Nick Chubb emergency in Cleveland when everyone 685 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: wrote Cleveland offen, I got Baker Mayfield and we're gonna 686 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: throw the ball around. No, we're gonna run the ball 687 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: with Nick Shell and let our defense, uh play winning 688 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: games for us. So I think the mindset has changed. Yeah, 689 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: I was looking at the playoff run you guys made 690 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: in two thousand five to get there the final five 691 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: games you won, and you were the bell cow over 692 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: a hundred yards and over twenty or more carriers. I 693 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: think it was twenty three or more carriers. And you 694 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 1: you just you're right, you don't see that as much 695 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: anymore unless your name is Derrick Henry, right, And I 696 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: just I wonder do you think they're they're almost treating 697 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: running backs with kid gloves Clinton like they're being too careful, 698 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: they don't want to overburden them. Well, I think I 699 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: think everyone looks said, hey, you know what, instead of 700 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 1: running the ball on first down and maybe picking up 701 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: four or five or six yards, I could throw this 702 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: quick pass and I have potential to get instead of 703 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: maxing out at six or seven yards, I have potential 704 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: to turn up and get fifteen yards. But in reality, 705 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: if you just hand the hand the ball off to 706 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: the running back, no running back could get get going 707 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: with four carries a quarter. You know if you break 708 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: it down, I got sixteen carries at the end of 709 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: the game, that comes out to be like four carriers 710 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: a quarter. What am I supposed to do with four 711 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: carriers a quarter? I can't get into rhythm. But when 712 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: you're talking about twenty to five carries, now I can 713 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: get into rhythm. I can set some things up. I 714 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: could see what the defense is doing to try and 715 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: stop me, and I could come up with the plan, 716 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: a reactive plan the next time I see this defense. 717 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: But now you have so many guys running on the 718 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: off the field, you have so many specialists. Oh this 719 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: is my first down guy, I'm gonna put Adrian Peterson 720 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: in for the Detroit lines, and on second down, i'm 721 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: gonna put carry On Johnson in, and on third down, 722 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Swift in. That those guys don't get 723 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: an opportunity to look and see the field as they 724 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 1: should because all three of them got talented. So if 725 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 1: if you just get back to the one guy that's 726 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: the bell cow, and when I get tired, hey, I 727 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: tell my my backup to come in and he can 728 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: do everything, then I think that gives you a better 729 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: brand of football because you've taken the physicality away from football. 730 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: All right, let me ask your final question, Clinton, Um, 731 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: who do you think is the most complete back in 732 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: the NFL right now? I mean like, blocking, rushing, receiving, 733 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: total package right now? Who you got that's an opening? Uh? 734 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cooke and and any really any running back in 735 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: the San Fra system for the system, because that's what 736 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: they asked. Oh and I would I would give Christian McCaffrey. 737 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: I think he has a different role because he can 738 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: line up in the slot you know here and leaving 739 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: on Bill uh a different caliber back. They're both great 740 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: back still, but they have a skill set that they 741 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: could go be a slot in your slot corner can't 742 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: cover them, or they could come out the backfield. So 743 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: when you're talking about pure back, I would I would 744 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: take Dalvin Cook. Okay, there it is from one of 745 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: the great Clinton Porters. All Right, dude, Hey man, I 746 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: will see you on Talk to Line this week. Clinton 747 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: port is everybody Clinton? I mean, yeah, hey, listen, I 748 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 1: want to promote how much I hate FS shoe now 749 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: that I'm giving Dalvin I just I just told you 750 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook was the best back in the NFL, and 751 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: for me, to say that, you know, for me to 752 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: give a guy from FF shoe credit when I bleeve 753 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 1: orange and green and I hate going it and gold, uh, 754 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: that means a lot. So that that tells you how 755 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,919 Speaker 1: good I really think Dalvin Cook FSCs following on hard 756 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: times it's I don't care. It's personal. I don't I 757 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: don't care. When we fell on hard times, they didn't 758 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: take it easy on man. That's ruthless. I love that rivalry. 759 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: Clinton port is everybody thank you Clinton. Uh, you know, 760 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: enjoy the games this weekend. Hey, no problem, man, take 761 00:41:59,800 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: care