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Speaker 2: All right, Steve, thank you very much for that update.

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Speaker 3: Guys, Steve Gregory about Fentnyl overdose is a juvenile facility

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Speaker 1: No, it's just abolishing it, abolishing incarceration, abolishing consequences. Well,

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Speaker 1: They found his body in the courtyard of an abandoned property.

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Speaker 1: He disappeared in November of twenty twenty one. We'll get

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Speaker 1: To so many people who agree with you, Every pole

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Speaker 2: Twitter. How's that. We'll tell you more about that coming

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Speaker 3: Right now, we have a bizarre story of another tech

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Speaker 3: The founder's name is bo Man. We're going to bring

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Speaker 2: Then and what we know now. So Blake, this guy

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Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, there's a lot of mystery surrounding this case.

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Speaker 6: not nothing visible from the the outside looking into it.

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Speaker 6: And again it's it's all been fenced off since it's

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Speaker 6: been abandoned. But his his remains were found inside that

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Speaker 6: that courtyard area, all right.

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Speaker 1: But so he calls an uber and then he's texting

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Speaker 1: nine to one one inside the uber.

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Speaker 2: So they must have talked to the driver. Why did

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Speaker 2: he feel in danger while he was being driven?

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Speaker 5: And that's what I'm trying to figure out. I know

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Speaker 5: his fiance has you know, he has his suspicions about

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Speaker 5: that Uber driver or about that Uber ride. I want

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Speaker 5: to go to buy two a clue, Be says detectives.

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Speaker 5: They're going to be looking into that Uber ride.

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Speaker 6: So we're going to be looking into every single avenue

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Speaker 6: and that's one of the lines of the investigations that

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Speaker 6: our detectives will go down, along with anything else that

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Speaker 6: might pop up in the intervening time. We will make

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Speaker 6: sure to exhaust whatever information.

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Speaker 1: That we have. So it seems like his body was

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Speaker 1: dumped there and that whoever dumped it knew that was

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Speaker 1: an abandoned area and that nobody was going to find

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Speaker 1: the body for a long time.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: One of the things I wonder is how nobody spotted

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Speaker 5: it though, get the fact that there were apartments and

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Speaker 5: bungled I guess, you know, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: all of it, as she said, was abandoned and was fetid.

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Speaker 2: Did they tell you where the remains were? Specifically were

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Speaker 2: in the courtyard.

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Speaker 5: So so that property that she was describing with the storefront,

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Speaker 5: they were in kind of a grassy area, you know,

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Speaker 5: So it sounds like there was some growth, because again

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Speaker 5: this is an abandoned property. In the courtyard and his

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Speaker 5: remains were there. Now, I did reach out to Uber

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Speaker 5: about that ride. Uber says the trip ended with no

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Speaker 5: incident reported to Uber, they said their record showed the

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Speaker 5: driver immediately picked up the next rider. They're deferring any

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Speaker 5: other details to law enforcement, but as you heard right

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Speaker 5: there from Santa Monica Police, they are going to be

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Speaker 5: looking in to that Uber ride. But again, guys, just

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Speaker 5: a lot of mystery, you know, on this whole case.

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Speaker 5: And one thing, one thing that I've thought about is,

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Speaker 5: you know, I know his family is pointing to the

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Speaker 5: fact that he was buying ice, and you know that

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Speaker 5: that points to him going home. But that was Studio City.

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Speaker 5: He lives in Brentwood, so that, you know, that is

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Speaker 5: still a little bit of a ride, and that to

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Speaker 5: me at least adds a little bit of mystery there.

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Speaker 5: And I think there's just so many questions to have answered.

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Speaker 5: I think part of the issue with this investigation is

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Speaker 5: that they did find these remains as skeletal. He was

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Speaker 5: id by dental records, so again there's no body to

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Speaker 5: really show, you know, any sort of trauma or you know,

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Speaker 5: anything of that nature.

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Speaker 1: Whoever the body knew that would be a perfect place

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Speaker 1: that no one was going to find for quite some time.

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Speaker 5: And one thing to point out to guys is that

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Speaker 5: the investigation, as Santa Monica police described to me, has

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Speaker 5: just begun essentially. You know, they they have this record

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Speaker 5: that he was dropped off in Santa Monica and hadn't

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Speaker 5: been heard from. But as it's been described to me,

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Speaker 5: now that the remains were found, now the investigation really

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Speaker 5: kicks in. But again, as you say, John, yeah, dropped

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Speaker 5: off in an area of course where nobody saw him

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Speaker 5: for you know, now we're going on almost two years.

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Speaker 5: It's it's been quite some time, and I think it's

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Speaker 5: gonna that's gonna definitely had some challenges given that this

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Speaker 5: was a skeleton. One interview, somebody said that they saw

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Speaker 5: people taking the remains away, folding the body bag, meaning

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Speaker 5: you know, this had to have been just down to

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Speaker 5: its skeletal remains. But a lot of questions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Blake, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Hi, thanks guys, Blake Trolley KFI News covering the latest

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Speaker 1: story of a tech exect probably murdered.

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Speaker 2: This is a man by the name of Bowman.

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Speaker 3: Who was the CEO of something called sober Grid, which

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Speaker 3: was a health app for people suffering from sobriety issues

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Speaker 3: with drugs and alcohol. Don't know whether or not it

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Speaker 3: was connected.

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Speaker 2: To that at all or what.

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Speaker 3: But he disappeared to the at the near the end

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty one. They just found his body a

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Speaker 3: month or so ago in Santa Monica in a abandoned

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Speaker 3: building area. More coming up Johnny KENKFI AM six forty

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Speaker 3: Live Everywhere the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 4: AM six forty.

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Speaker 1: Coming up after three o'clock, Alex, don't again, is this right?

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Speaker 1: There's an update, a big There is an update, a

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Speaker 1: big update on Oh yeah, a lot more information came

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Speaker 1: out about the shooter in Texas. Yes, they're not reading

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Speaker 1: some old stories. I thought maybe no, there's more on

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Speaker 1: his idea, the ideas background they came out. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: thought I had yesterday's sheets mixed up with today's sheets,

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Speaker 1: So no stories.

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Speaker 2: Do have updates? John sometimes? Yes, Well, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Although you know your rule.

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Speaker 1: Is we should wait three days on anything, so we

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Speaker 1: shouldn't talk about anything for three days until we don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, really you can talk about it. I don't believe

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Speaker 2: anything for three days Oh, okay, that's a good point.

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Speaker 3: We have a bit of breaking news this afternoon's been

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Speaker 3: following the saga of Fox News and Tucker Carlson, who

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Speaker 3: they let go a couple of weeks ago, and he

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Speaker 3: made an announcement today.

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Speaker 2: Here is a part of the announcement.

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Speaker 7: As of tonight, there aren't many platforms left that allow

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Speaker 7: free speech. The last big one remaining in the world world,

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Speaker 7: the only one is Twitter where we are now. Twitter

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Speaker 7: has long served is the place where our national conversation

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Speaker 7: incubates and develops. Twitter is not a partisan sight. Everybody's

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Speaker 7: allowed here, and we think that's a good thing. And yet,

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Speaker 7: for the most part, the news that you see analyzed

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Speaker 7: on Twitter comes from media organizations that are themselves thinly

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Speaker 7: disguised propaganda outlets. You see it on cable news, you

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Speaker 7: talk about it on Twitter. The result may feel like

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Speaker 7: a debate, but actually the gatekeepers are still in charge.

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Speaker 7: We think that's a bad system. We know exactly how

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Speaker 7: it works, and we're sick of it. Starting soon, will

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Speaker 7: be bringing a new version of the show we've been

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Speaker 7: doing for the last six and a half years to Twitter.

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Speaker 7: We bring some other things to which we'll tell you

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Speaker 7: about But for now, we're just grateful to be here.

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Speaker 7: Free speech is the main right that you have. Without it,

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Speaker 7: you have no others.

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Speaker 2: See you sooner, probably.

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Speaker 1: On a surprise then Elon Musk taken over Twitter and

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Speaker 1: of course making a lot of noise about the lack

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Speaker 1: of free speech and probably aligning more with Tucker Carlson's

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Speaker 1: opinions on a number of issues.

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Speaker 2: So how does a long form video program work on Twitter?

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Speaker 2: Look at that? Eric Scalar is here to explain our

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Speaker 2: Duke of Sports, Well, Duke of Twitter here, Yes, Duke

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Speaker 2: of Twitter here.

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Speaker 8: So basically, you can subscribe to Twitter Blue, which is

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Speaker 8: the new subscription service that Elon doled out once he

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Speaker 8: took over Twitter and bought it and all of that.

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Speaker 8: And basically, once you subscribe to Twitter Blue, pay the

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Speaker 8: I think it's like nine to ninety nine a month

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Speaker 8: or whatever it is. You can post videos up to

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Speaker 8: about sixty minutes long, or the file size has to

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Speaker 8: be about two gigabytes, so it can be longer than

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Speaker 8: sixty minutes as long as the file size is under

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Speaker 8: two gigabytes. So my guess is here, Tucker has enough

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Speaker 8: money to hire a staff, build a studio, create a show.

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Speaker 8: He can post that video because he subscribes to Twitter

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Speaker 8: Twitter Blue, he can post that video as long as

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Speaker 8: it doesn't go over the file size requirements, and it

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Speaker 8: can be about a sixty minute video, sixty minute show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he has He has a studio in Maine. He's

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Speaker 1: worked out of Maine for about three years I think. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so down the block from his home. Yeah, he's almost

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Speaker 1: never in New York Washington. Yeah, I wouldn't have picked Maine. Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, he lives out litt of cold up there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Bertie Sander, He's got the studio and he probably

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Speaker 1: has a staff and Twitter.

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Speaker 8: Twitter has monetization on the site if you have a

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Speaker 8: certain amount of followers and all of that type of stuff,

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Speaker 8: a certain certain amount of requirements, and then obviously the

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Speaker 8: Twitter Blue factors into I think, being able to have

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Speaker 8: more subscribers and all that type of stuff in perks.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, he can just charge people a subscription fee

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Speaker 8: monthly to subscribe to his Twitter account on top of

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Speaker 8: the Twitter Blue fee. Yeah, well he pays the Twitter

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Speaker 8: Blue fee, I see, and then Twitter like people on

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Speaker 8: Twitter can pay him to see the show.

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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't have to pay Twitter Blue to watch

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Speaker 1: his show, but I don't have to pay him to

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Speaker 1: watch his show.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I see, because as a subscriber, you can post

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Speaker 8: different content for your subscribers and for your non subscribers.

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Speaker 8: So he could post the video and only his subscribers

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Speaker 8: would see it, none of his non subscribers would see it, so.

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Speaker 1: It would look exactly like his Fox television show on

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Speaker 1: a screen realistically. Yes, yeah, if he's doing it from

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Speaker 1: the same studios. This is a stupid question, but understand,

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Speaker 1: I am. I'm very primitive when it comes to understanding technology.

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Speaker 1: You said it, all right, you know, I am?

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Speaker 2: I am?

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Speaker 1: But so I mean I could watch if I want

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Speaker 1: to watch them, I can watch him on the iPhone

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Speaker 1: and the iPad? Could I working on the smart tv?

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Speaker 8: Is there a Twitter app if you're at I was

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Speaker 8: gonna say, yeah, probably if you have like a Google

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Speaker 8: app on like, you could go to the Internet on

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Speaker 8: your smart TV, right, don't. I don't think there's a

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Speaker 8: Twitter app for smart TVs currently, but that could change.

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Speaker 2: Right, okay, and it probably will.

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Speaker 1: Considering well, then you know that is kind of investment

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Speaker 1: that that is going to be the new wave for

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of personalities who don't want to

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Speaker 1: put up with all the rules and the censorship and

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Speaker 1: the nonsense of networks employers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean nobody needs that.

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Speaker 3: Well, this will just make the Twitter followers who were

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Speaker 3: used to what they were progressive San Francisco to.

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Speaker 2: Haven't they been? I'm not keeping track. Are they losing

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Speaker 2: a lot of Twitter people since Musk took over? And

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not. I mean, you fired two

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Speaker 2: thirds of the stat.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's up to ninety percent. The staff is now

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Speaker 1: ten percent of what it used to do. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: what were they doing? They all worked in the censorship department, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm starting to read stories about other startups that

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Speaker 1: are attracting people other Twitter, like social media. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a chicken and egg thing because you could go to

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Speaker 1: a startup, but then you'll have to have everybody else

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Speaker 1: in the world go there too, Otherwise you don't have

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Speaker 1: an audience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you're you're posting to yourself.

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Speaker 3: There's one what's the one I've been hearing about? Maybe

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Speaker 3: Eric knows that they screen people to become a Is

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Speaker 3: it called blue Star blue something or no, not blue,

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Speaker 3: It's got something. It's been in the news a lot lately,

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Speaker 3: and you use blue Sky, Blue Sky. That's it, Blue Sky.

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Speaker 2: I heard that one. It's just a game.

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Speaker 1: There's another one called Mastadon. I see some journalists have

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Speaker 1: announced they have Yeah. I mean there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: these little startups, but you need a critical mask to

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Speaker 3: in the mass shooting that occurred in Texas over the

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Speaker 3: weekend that killed eight people. You'll give us the details,

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