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Speaker 2: But when you're not ready to let said individual, the

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Speaker 2: So it hurts the individual that doesn't want to leave

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 5: And miss o chosinko. It's only a couple of people

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Speaker 5: and Jordan's and one of them didn't have no and

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Speaker 1: It's only a couple of holes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And so you know, you know, you know that,

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Speaker 1: You know what that tells me? Pat, And I've said

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Speaker 6: If if this was a crime, if this trade and

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Speaker 1: And Luca coming to the Luca coming to the.

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Speaker 6: Lakers, if this was a crime, whoever's responsible for we

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Speaker 1: That's how That's how bad this trade was. That's how

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Speaker 6: It's ridiculous for Luca to go out there tonight to

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Speaker 1: Cried and be emotional.

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Speaker 6: Then they have thirty one of the half and finished

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Speaker 6: That that's ridiculous. And then every time he touched the ball.

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Speaker 6: You you playing in Dallas and everybody, yeah, then you

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Speaker 6: come on, it's ridiculous. It's it's ridiculous, man, and it's criminal.

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Speaker 6: The fact that this even went through the play of

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Speaker 6: I like, I like this. I like to look at

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Speaker 5: The stories of of when a player leaves and you

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Speaker 5: see fans burning jersey, right, oh, yeah, you see, you see,

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Speaker 5: you feel me. I wouldn't say it's fair. I just

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Speaker 2: According to Tim McMahon of ESPN team sources have said

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Speaker 6: Well, it's impossible repairbody.

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Speaker 2: You can't get, You can't get anybody because you gotta

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Speaker 1: This is the biggest trade because we've never.

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Speaker 2: Seen a guy this year, this talented, that didn't ask

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Speaker 2: To trade a guy at twenty six averaging twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: you move it. We've never seen anything like this and

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Speaker 2: we might not ever see it again because normally these

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Speaker 2: Magic and Bird and Kareem and Jordan, they don't come

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Speaker 1: You got him. You got him. The thing that makes

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Speaker 2: Is that you got it, went the contract and he

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, hey, Pat, you might know better than me.

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Speaker 6: Your eyes and your ears are still to the NBA.

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Speaker 6: And do you know if what Luca was doing away

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Speaker 6: the issue definitely had nothing to do with him what

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Speaker 6: a few, a few people that.

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Speaker 1: Have been able to do that, was what he was doing.

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Speaker 6: Was it that bad to really say, you know what,

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Speaker 6: the Lakers and not tell anybody and just deal with

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Speaker 5: So you have to understand. So I put, I spent

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Speaker 1: Really really really really really good Europeans, right, and.

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Speaker 5: I dealt with a guy named Melo's Ted Dosage, Melo's

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Speaker 5: So that was his something. I don't know if it

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Speaker 5: He drinking a cold one at the big win with

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Speaker 5: brut his hand. You know, we hear things about overweight,

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Speaker 5: we hear things about okay, he keeps getting hurt because

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Speaker 5: right right, we hear those things, but you really don't

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Speaker 5: see him, right, you don't see them.

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Speaker 1: It's just you hear them.

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Speaker 5: So like, if that, if you can do all of

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Speaker 5: that and that doesn't affect your play and you're.

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Speaker 1: Still showing up.

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Speaker 5: Now, people forget not only does he show up, he

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Speaker 5: every single time, like tonight. Yeah, and it's only y'all know, right,

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Speaker 5: y'all been to Pro Bowl y'all been in the spotlight, y'all,

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Speaker 5: y'all know how it is to mother buck get that catch,

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Speaker 5: You see that light.

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Speaker 1: On you, You run until you can't sit, run no more.

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Speaker 5: Right he's doing he's doing all that right in front

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Speaker 5: of my eyes. Twenty six years old. Generational talent. Yes,

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Speaker 5: you let you let go. I don't think you know

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Speaker 5: what me personally, I think we use the term generational.

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Speaker 5: But he's a transcendent talent. Transcendent Micha Jordan, Kareem Lebron.

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Speaker 5: The guys that we're gonna be talking about for two generations,

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Speaker 5: so our kids kids gonna be talking about this, Like,

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Speaker 5: hold on, wait a minute. I mean the guy had

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Speaker 2: He did vibe how I mean, how many like he got?

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Speaker 2: Like what forty forty point games? Now, it's crazy how

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Speaker 2: great he is. I'll talk telling o Jo Pat Bell.

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Speaker 2: When I first got the lead, guys used to smoke.

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Speaker 2: All the times I saw Greg town with the Raiders

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Speaker 1: I look, it's really happening.

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Speaker 2: God, I mean, there are guys on our team that

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Speaker 2: fire it up. It didn't bother me because days at

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Speaker 6: Yea, So hey, I tell you, listen, I tell you

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Speaker 1: I can tell you this pack.

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Speaker 6: We got Beverly Hills, we got Beverly Center, we got

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Speaker 5: Jason Kidd Hilling the kid. Y'all saw what Luca did? Hey,

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Speaker 5: and and see y'all. I gotta understand I've played against him,

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Speaker 5: right yeah, I got trophy. I got trophies at home

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Speaker 5: the first team, two second hands. I don't just got

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Speaker 5: him in the playoffs. Oh when you even the Clippers,

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Speaker 5: listen when I tell you and I've got I guarded

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Speaker 1: I didn't try to guard everybody he could. He was different.

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Speaker 5: Wow, it's his it's his skill mixed with his ability

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Speaker 7: If this work, I'm gonna keep doing it. It don't

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Speaker 2: See them, Pat, y'all about to drive one front of you,

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Speaker 2: pass bro.

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Speaker 1: I'm a postion all day long.

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Speaker 2: I saw you guys when he was with the Clippers

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Speaker 1: Y'all had elite defenders.

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Speaker 2: You PG Kawhi and he's still dropping thirty and four.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, hold on, wait a minute. I mean, Kawhi

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Speaker 2: an All NBA defender, Pat PG All NBA defender.

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Speaker 1: Pat bab told.

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Speaker 2: You his accolade and he he got three here Like, hey, okay, Pat,

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Speaker 2: I send me PG PG. You better go get Kawhi.

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Speaker 2: It was it was nothing we could do. It was

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Speaker 2: halfway through the series something me saying that you know what,

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Speaker 2: scratch just let them store fifty. We just gonna see

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Speaker 2: if anybody else.

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Speaker 1: To do everybody else?

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Speaker 5: Huh oh yeah, it was trouble now he like you say,

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Speaker 5: he's a different talent. He's a different talent. And and

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Speaker 5: JJ Reddick, I don't think he gets enough credit. I

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Speaker 1: The best space and we've done standing. Uh good.

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Speaker 5: See they have three really good ball handles and creators.

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Speaker 5: And I'm adding Austin Reeves to that. They didn't say

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm adding Austin Reeves to that. Boy can hop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they look at it. Covey White, Pat Bail but

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Speaker 5: And I know y'all know it was one defender that

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00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 5: probably guarded y'all or one ride receiver that y'all seen

436
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 5: the practice.

437
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 1: That was like, hey, man, hold on, he he different? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

438
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: And you know, you know it's funny.

439
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 6: You know, it's funny when when watching Lucit as well,

440
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 6: when you're thinking about all the superstars and you watched

441
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 6: the Kobe and Michael Jordan's there's something flashy about their game.

442
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,959
Speaker 1: There's something flashy about their game and you can see it.

443
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 6: You know whether it be the skill set, but when

444
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 6: I watched Luca, it almost seems as if he's moving

445
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 6: the slow motion when you look at it from TV,

446
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 6: it's like, well, that looks so easy.

447
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: That move was so easy.

448
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 6: It's not flashy, but every goddamn thing he does is

449
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 6: effective and it goes in has a damn tick.

450
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 2: I think the thing is what you talk about when

451
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 2: you talk about those guys, Pat Bev, and correct me

452
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. When you talk about the elite. The

453
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 2: one thing they had was supreme athleticism. We see Luca,

454
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: now we see Jokic, and you're like, I know, right now,

455
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: with two repaired hips and a bad knee, I cannot

456
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: jump Luca and Yokic. I bet you my bird birt

457
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: hiding both of those. But I tell you what, you

458
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: not gonna speed them up. They're gonna go at their pace,

459
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: and as Pat Bev said, they know how to put

460
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 2: the ball in the basket at a supreme level, level

461
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: a level.

462
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: Over and over and over again.

463
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 2: And because they can pass wherever you bring the double

464
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: team from, they know where that man that's that left

465
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 2: to come double him. They know where he is on

466
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: the court, so now they can snap past it. That

467
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 2: you see, Lu can do this all the time. He

468
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: go and he passes behind his head because he knows

469
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: there's a guy over there, or he'll clear cross. And

470
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: when you got him, you got Lebron high IQ and

471
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: you got Auster Reeves that Pat Bell said that can

472
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: handle the ball and can pass out of.

473
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: Auster Reeves.

474
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: Not get the third defender, your third best defender, gotta

475
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: guard aust Reeves.

476
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: Cut your two best defenders.

477
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: They better one better take Luca and the other take Lebron,

478
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: and you hope and pray they have an off night,

479
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: because if they don't, you got nothing.

480
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 5: Nothing, nothing, absolutely nothing. The defending off the bench from

481
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 5: the wing position.

482
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: Is really good. Their ability to get to.

483
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 5: Generate great shots, not not not not. I'm aa dribble

484
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 5: fifteen times and i'm an shoot a step back right.

485
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 5: You might see that from Luca from time to time.

486
00:24:46,240 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 5: But theiry to get the mm hmm pain by posting bye,

487
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 5: by playing without dribbling is prodsome.

488
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: So Pat yo, yo, your WiFi glitchen, I want to

489
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: read this the MAVs tried to line up sponsorship deals

490
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: with a few of Luca brand partners for Tonight's game,

491
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: but Lucas Camp rejected the ideal team. Sources told ESPN

492
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: that the MAVs had also lined up for lucative sponsorship

493
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 2: deals for Wednesday's game with multiple companies that do endorses,

494
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 2: but those deals fell apart after donchic Camp declined to

495
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: give his blessing, pointing noted that he now plays for

496
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 2: the Lakers.

497
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean you got.

498
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: You got some you got some eight figure deal at

499
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: Luke said, Nah, I'm good. Hey, hey, Pat bab, I

500
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 2: don't give d how bad I am? You mean to

501
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: tell me you got eighty figures for you?

502
00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: Boy? Let me get at.

503
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 5: That I'm getting. I'm getting all ten deal, all deals

504
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 5: that start with ten and go up with I got that,

505
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 5: have that, go that, Gotta have that, Definitely gotta have that.

506
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

507
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: But these are the type of deals that can set

508
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: you back for a long period of time.

509
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: Now I think they're gonna be okay.

510
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: You gotta think about it now without Kyrie, Now you

511
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 2: get Kyrie back, who the supreme scorer, who will be

512
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: the unbelievable with a d in the pick and roll.

513
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be okay. I think they're gonna

514
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 2: be okay, Pat, I really do.

515
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 5: But yeah, Luca Mayor, I just I just from up

516
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 5: from from from a standpoint of from a standpoint of like, uh, okay,

517
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 5: we see the trade, we hear the fire Nico, but

518
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 5: we in his defense, right, because everybody had a day, right,

519
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 5: every everybody had a day in his defense?

520
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: How does this look five years from now? Right? How

521
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: does this look five years from now? Like we've seen,

522
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: how I.

523
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 5: Look before Kyrie got hurt, Before Kyrie got they didn't

524
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 5: lose a gag, Yeah right, I mean so, so it

525
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 5: was just bad time and it was it was a

526
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 5: lot of bad luck and a lot of bad timing

527
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 5: with that, you know, the trade happens and damn near

528
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 5: the whole team go down, you know. So, but we

529
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 5: got to everybody got their day. Let's let's see, let's

530
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 5: see two to three.

531
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Speaker 2: The question is are they gonna give Nico, because look,

532
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: people keep blaming Nico, Pat bay of you know, this

533
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: a deal of this magnitude, you going all the way

534
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: to the top. This is what we got now next year,

535
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: this year or next year, we're gonna have to give

536
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: this man a super max contract, which is five years,

537
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 2: three hundred and forty five million dollars.

538
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: You give it to them expeditiously. I agree, a D

539
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna want.

540
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna want a three year deal at a super

541
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: max number at one hundred and ninety three, maybe two

542
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: hundred million.

543
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: You win. One second.

544
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 5: You wait, we got we gotta take care of something

545
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 5: over here first, because at a time a D was

546
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 5: taken care of first and somebody else had to correct, right, right,

547
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 5: So that's the.

548
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: Pecking order, and Kyrie coming up to Okay, well at

549
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: uh after Luca, God, we gonna get to you a D.

550
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to you after that. Wow. We talked

551
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: about pecking order. Though.

552
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 5: This is if if all of us is GMS, I

553
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 5: believe that that Luca right.

554
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 6: Yeah here, hold on, uh, if all of us have GM's,

555
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 6: Luca will still be in Dallas.

556
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 5: I'm talking about We'll we'll be we'll be trying to

557
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 5: decide what new blue we go well on our jerseys.

558
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: Look here, if I got Luca, he could come in

559
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: with a cake. I'll put it as in the game.

560
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: Hey have a batter. Fact he wanted to spoke when

561
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: you can't smoke in the building. But I was saying, hey,

562
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: I'll have a delignated area. Hey, Lukah, go get you

563
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: a couple of pulls. Hey, get a man of bathing

564
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: ping or something.

565
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: Hey, Ben, and be waiting for every game? What being

566
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 1: you wan? Ye man? Yeah?

567
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 5: But so but we still got time to see. We

568
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 5: gotta see how he Nico. You know he pulled this off.

569
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 5: He might pull something else off the sleeve. So you

570
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 5: gotta get everybody got their dad, so he gonna have

571
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 5: his day.

572
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pat, As I mentioned earlier, if the Lakers win

573
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: one more of their final three games, they get the

574
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: number three seed. Yeh scenario? What would be the worst

575
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: first round matchup for the Lakers? Would it be the Clippers?

576
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: Would it be the Warriors, would it be the Nuggets?

577
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: Would it be the Griz Laes or Minnesota? Who do

578
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: you think the worst case scenario matchup for them would be?

579
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: So it was different from a long like from a

580
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: long time, it was different.

581
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 5: I felt like the older Lebron got the younger the

582
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 5: league gut and everybody just kept picking on the Lakers,

583
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 5: picking on the Lakers, picking on the Lakers, right taking advantage, right,

584
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: taking advantage of that Lakers. I'm I ain't gonna lie.

585
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: Huh. This might be one.

586
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 5: Of the cause you know, you get that that that

587
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 5: that team in the playoffs. It ain't about schemes, ain't

588
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 5: about plays. It's all about size.

589
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: It's all about match upsy right, half course said, it's

590
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: all about size and mash ups.

591
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: Who can generate the most points half court?

592
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 5: What the Lakers can do with the with those with

593
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 5: that team, with that coach, with those three ball handlers.

594
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 5: I think they are mismatched for everybody in the West,

595
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: no one. No one in the West can guard Luca,

596
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 5: no nobody. We've seen it like we've seen it. We've

597
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 5: seen it in Phoenix when they got them out of there.

598
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 5: We've seen it like we Okay, come on, Minnesota, Rudy

599
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 5: Gobert player of the Year. All y'all young too, all

600
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 5: come let me holler at you. We've seen it, ok

601
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 5: last year. We've seen it like it ain't like it's

602
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 5: a surprise, like we actually watched it. Don't see you

603
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 5: like them and Luca and gave thirty again like we've

604
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 5: seened it. So like I think the Lakers might be that.

605
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 5: I think the Lakers are that team. I think they're bad.

606
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 5: No one wants to see the Lakers.

607
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 6: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on

608
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 6: that pat now listen, I've heard I've heard many discrepanti's

609
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 6: when it comes to the Lakers about their their their

610
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 6: they're not having a big Do you not see or

611
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 6: worry about them not having it big when.

612
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: They face certain teams, especially the teams.

613
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 6: That uncnain and only being able to go small, and

614
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 6: when they do have to go big, Lebron sometimes having

615
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 6: to go down to the five, Jackson Heed not playing

616
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 6: as many minutes at the five, and sometime being in

617
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 6: foul trouble.

618
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 5: So my thing is this Lebron is naturally at the

619
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: age he is and how his body is made up,

620
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 5: He's naturally a four five is type anyway right now,

621
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 5: right because the league has changed, and right not because

622
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 5: of skills set, because the league has changed. Right, he

623
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 5: can be the backup four. He can be the backup

624
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 5: five on any any really good team.

625
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: Right.

626
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 5: My thing is, it's it's ways to defend the rem

627
00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 5: without having a shot.

628
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: Lock. If you if you got if you tighten it,

629
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: if you tighten.

630
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 5: Those gaps up and you make these teams shoot threes,

631
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 5: ball don't get in the paint. If you got these

632
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 5: defenders like Ry and Ruley was great tonight, you go

633
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 5: by the way, he was phenomenal. You talk about Finny

634
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 5: Smith Jr. You talk about Vanderbilt, Right, you talk about

635
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 5: these wings. They all look the same size, they all

636
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 5: dive on the floor. They all got a little little

637
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: muscle and a little gristle to him. Right, you talk

638
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 5: about these guys, you don't need You don't need rem protection.

639
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: If they can't get to the painted you don't need

640
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: ram protection. And the thing is that you're gonna get

641
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: great in the half court.

642
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna get great shots because eventually, and you saw

643
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: this tonight, you saw this against o Case, you see

644
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: this a lot.

645
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: They gonna blitz Luca. They gotta get they gonna make

646
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: him give it up.

647
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: If you don't, he's gonna put if you there, it's

648
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: not a defender that can deal with Luca one on one.

649
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: You gotta make him give it up.

650
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: And you'll find out early on how soon you're gonna

651
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: have to make him give it up because he's gonna

652
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: test it, because he gonna he gonna shoot this. A

653
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: couple of step back early to see if he can

654
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: feel it.

655
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 5: Now when you defend that, now he gonna get by you,

656
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 5: he gonna stop, you gonna rear end it, and he's

657
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 5: gonna be a one.

658
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: So soon you'll start blistening. Make it him give it up.

659
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: But he's giving the ball up to Lebron James. He's

660
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: given the ball up to Austin Reeves. Let us think

661
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: it for the first time. Lebron James is gonna go

662
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: into a playoff series and he's the second best player

663
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: on his team and took it twenty two.

664
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: Years for it.

665
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: That happened pat Ball. But now he's the second best

666
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: player on the team.

667
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 5: And that's not that's not because Lebron is a lack

668
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 5: of talent anything, right, right, That's not because of that.

669
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 5: That's just because they have some other really good playmaking.

670
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: Right.

671
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 5: And people don't understand when it comes to basketball, like

672
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 5: spacing and especially in the playoffs, spacing and rebounding are

673
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 5: the probably the two most incredible things that you have

674
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 5: to do. Rebounding, like I break it down the football turns.

675
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 5: You get hand on that ball, that ball get loose.

676
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 5: You can't drop ball, you can't fumble ball. Not this game, right,

677
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 5: Not this game.

678
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: You could get it, get away with it, don'ty how

679
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: you do get away, but this game you can't do it.

680
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: Rebounding is exactly the same way.

681
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 5: So if you doubles him and Luca, right, you got

682
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 5: two guys on him, he passes out to a guy

683
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 5: who misses a three, now you're rebounding the shot.

684
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: Ye, right, that's that's stuff.

685
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 5: That's the the gear you get from from from trapping. Okay,

686
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 5: you guys might trap, we might might have to shoot

687
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 5: a shot that a guy can't shoot, but we go

688
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 5: get a good rebound now because you'll space stuff, right,

689
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 5: those who know basketball, that's what that's what the Warriors do.

690
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 5: See people think because the Warriors are small, they can't

691
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 5: rebound it. What if you just playing conventional basketball, you

692
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 5: would be absolutely correct. But because they shoot the three,

693
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 5: and now you're scrambling because they swing the ball and

694
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 5: you try to run somebody off, you're out of position.

695
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: The ball goes up. Now you're scrambling. Not Moody Pod.

696
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: Draymond Moody, all those guys getting rebounds, and you're like,

697
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 2: what damn, this little lass team rebounded us by teen.

698
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: You look up, You're like, damn, we got out rebounded

699
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: by this small lass team, and because, like you said,

700
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: they got three guys that could pass.

701
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: And the thing is, if.

702
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: The Lakers look normally, when the bench gives them like

703
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: twenty points, the Lakers are hell to beat because you

704
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: know you're gonna get at least somewhere between seventy five

705
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 2: and maybe ninety from the Big Three. You're gonna get that.

706
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 2: If you get twenty. Agreed, they're gonna be hard to beat.

707
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna be hard to be And really, if you

708
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 2: go back and look at the West, the only big

709
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: the only one team that haves a big that can.

710
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: Punish the Lakers, and that's Yoke. That's it. I'm not

711
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: worried about.

712
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not worried about Hardenstein, I'm not worried about Chad,

713
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about I'm not worried about anybody big

714
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: in the West other than Yo.

715
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: The question is the problem is with Denver.

716
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: Is that seemed like when Jamal Murray get to the playoffs,

717
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, I'm supposed to be Maggie Johnson. I

718
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: was supposed to be one of these whole time historic

719
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: great guards and he goes crazy, especially.

720
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: Against the Lakers.

721
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but I think I think this year though,

722
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 5: I ain't go lie to you. I think this year.

723
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 5: Y'all know we all athletes, right, we all, we all

724
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 5: done it. I don't care how good your team is.

725
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 5: If there's any type of dark cloud, any type of

726
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 5: negative energy, right right, you lose a coach. It's it

727
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 5: takes a lot of more energy to be focused on. Okay,

728
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 5: let's win a championship, right right right. A famous coach,

729
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 5: Doc Rivers told me, he say, Pat, I do basic

730
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 5: stuff because I don't want my players to understand. The

731
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 5: better they understand, the better they cannot be players and

732
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 5: just be athletes.

733
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: Right, So you got this guy firing. You heard the

734
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: new voice.

735
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 5: Now, you guys know what the new voice don't sound like. Yeah,

736
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 5: they don't sound like coach. I can't run up to

737
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 5: him and he coach, check it out. I see it

738
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 5: opening right here, like it's it's just different. So that

739
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 5: takes time, right, So I wouldn't be surprised if them

740
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 5: was out of their first round.

741
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: I ain't go lie to you first round. I ain't

742
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:57,959
Speaker 1: gonna lie.

743
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 5: I mean with that going around, I mean That's just

744
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 5: how the basket, That's how the sports gods are right.

745
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 5: You know, you disrespect the game. You fire coach like

746
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 5: that in the playoffs. This ain't a Center Ralli story.

747
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 5: These ain't just gonna goa beat Everybody like they're gonna

748
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 5: be put the tests. They're gonna be put the tests

749
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 5: you mentioned.

750
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 2: Head coach Mike Malone and the general manager, Calvin Booth,

751
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: was terminated. ESPN reported that the tension had been brewing

752
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: between Booth and Malone for quite some time, so so

753
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: much source that the source described it as a cold war.

754
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: Denver had lost four straight and was just eleven and thirteen.

755
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: Since the All Star Break, players such as Yoke have

756
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: displayed frustration on the sideline. Vibes have been low, according

757
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: to a source. There's another report that said Westbrook's minutes

758
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: were a part of the riff. IF reported that Booth

759
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: was questioned, bro why are you playing Westbrook when you

760
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: should be played?

761
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: I forget the younger guy's name and think it.

762
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: What's the name Pat? Our last name is Pickett? Yep, yep, yep,

763
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: that's it. And so you look, oki yo, he's given

764
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: you forty five, thirteen and ten and they lost all three.

765
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 2: He gave you a sixty point triple double, a forty

766
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: point triple double, and he was an assistant short of

767
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: a triple double on the thirty eight point game. So

768
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: he gave you forty five, thirteen and ten over three games, man,

769
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 2: and they lost all three games.

770
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: So my thing is this, it goes back to what

771
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 5: we were talking about Dallas.

772
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Right. I don't think this is a problem that was

773
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: just been brewing this year.

774
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 5: I think the problem was lost after they won the

775
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 5: championship and they didn't pay Bruce Brown.

776
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you lose, you lose your y.

777
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 5: Wing guy ro I wouldn't say he was a hard

778
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 5: and soul, but you lose a little bit.

779
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: Yep. If things get hard, you need a little bit

780
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: more grid.

781
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 5: Okay, cool. They was able to sustain that, right. Then

782
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 5: the following year they came up short. They lost to Minnesota,

783
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 5: and actually the year before Bruce Brown had a stellar

784
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 5: US He got paid off.

785
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: That Minnesota series.

786
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 5: Then coming in free agency, you lose cardwell, Pope, right,

787
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 5: you talked about now.

788
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: You're the lost and as a team, you need the

789
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: locker room. The locker room is the most important, right.

790
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: The culture is the most important, and.

791
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 5: The ability to win games and the real games is

792
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 5: not based on the star players.

793
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: It's based off the culture. So good, right, So you

794
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: lose these two guys, right, you.

795
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 5: Try to fill a void with Chris Bron, You try

796
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 5: to fill a void with Watson, and you try with

797
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 5: these young guys. Pick it right, and then you want

798
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 5: to go get Russ Right, you're surprised it doesn't work now,

799
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 5: and now you have to point blame at somebody you're

800
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 5: talking about They beat us three to one.

801
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: In the bubble. Yep, we were supposed to play that.

802
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: You know that team we have? Ye?

803
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, they beat us three one. So I'm able to

804
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: see this this team up close and personal. I'm able

805
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 5: to see this coach up closer personal, right.

806
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: Elite coach. I honestly think he overachieved in Denver.

807
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 5: Over gie and to be able to come down and

808
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 5: implement your system. Right, have a two time MVP that's selfless.

809
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 5: Usually the MVPs like, no, give me the rock, I'm

810
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 5: shooting a fade away.

811
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: How I'm doing this? I'm talking of a selfless MVP.

812
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 5: Right, And you don't make the moves you're supposed to

813
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 5: making free agency, and you wanted to write, your team

814
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 5: is not the same team.

815
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: It baffles me.

816
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: It actually baffles me. Pat, I was wondering, did you

817
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 2: hear what James Harden said? The reason why they're having

818
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: success he says with person He said personnel. He's he

819
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: said personnel. There's the only two guys that's not there.

820
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: And I don't know what he would try. What was

821
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: he trying to say? Because he is the only thing

822
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: is personnel. I don't need to say anything else.

823
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 5: Yes, this thing was like everyone knows their roles right

824
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 5: and as a and as a player.

825
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: Who's you know I didn't have a couple of tea.

826
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 5: I spent twelve thirteen years in the NBA, right, right,

827
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 5: So like knowing your role and for me to be,

828
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 5: you know, the ultimate role player, right, knowing your role

829
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 5: helps everybody else out around.

830
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: Right. Not only do you know your role now you

831
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: can thrive in your role? Right? Okay? Cool? I know

832
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: I know my role on.

833
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 5: This team is things rebound and then if I get it,

834
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 5: you know, I get it in the corner, I'm gonna

835
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 5: shoot it.

836
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: That's my role.

837
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna stay in my role now, I'm gonna thrive

838
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 5: in my role, right, he had guys over there, obviously, the.

839
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: Paul George, we can name the Paul George, the Russell Westbrook,

840
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: the PJ. Tucker. Remember p J Tucker was Bones Island.

841
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 5: Also, yeah, remember they went through that whole debacle with Tyloo.

842
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 5: They were are you in there? They were so and

843
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 5: forget those guys also all that mix. The third again

844
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 5: talked about it's hard to win games like that. Man,

845
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 5: you got so much, you got so much bad going around.

846
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 5: You can't basketball how because you got James Hard.

847
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: Look, it seems to be like James Hard is gonna

848
00:41:59,200 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: be James Harden.

849
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: The whis back, Healthy, whis back, healthy, Box is playing unbelievable.

850
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: I still magic, my guy. I love magic.

851
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: Magic was out of his mind for trading Mike Muscalar for

852
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: bos Can you imagine Box with Lebron and Luca or

853
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: with a D and Broad because now now Luca now

854
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: a D could have slid to the four like he

855
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: wanted to play, leave Zub at the five. Can you

856
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,479
Speaker 2: imagine what that would I don't eve want let's let's

857
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 2: let's not talk about things that what could have been?

858
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 5: I was there when we traded for Big Zoo. I

859
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 5: was there and man, you getting this big center there?

860
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: I man, where are you from?

861
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 5: Man? Tell me he from Man? He from overseas? Pat man,

862
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 5: I bring a man big zoo. Man.

863
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: How the how to box haircut? Yeah? I got him

864
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: right on.

865
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 5: Hey man, put some swag on you manam yeah, unbutting

866
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 5: your shirt? Get test South Zoo right top top four

867
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 5: center in the NBA right now. He played like it.

868
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 5: I mean he's had a thirty twenty game or twenty

869
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 5: twenty game. Zoo is playing up and guess what he

870
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 5: can get his points. And you don't run out one

871
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 5: play for it, not one. They'll say, hey, zud go

872
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 5: down there, what hand you want when you want to left?

873
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 5: Get on the right block. I'm gonna throw it here,

874
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 5: go down to the left. I'm gonna throw it down.

875
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 5: All he does, hey James Harden, layoff? Oh he get

876
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 5: it off the rim, put it back. I'm not running

877
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 5: anything for him. So now I get James Harden. Do

878
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 5: what you do, Kawhi, do what you do, like you said,

879
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 5: know your role. Oh your new every game, I'm number

880
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 5: one receiver. I'm gonna get my catchers. I'm gonna get

881
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 5: my ten targets.

882
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: Now, oh you ain't got a thinkin I ain't Oh

883
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: hold on, I ain't got but one target. Okay, the

884
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 2: next three quarters, I'm gonna get at least three a quarter,

885
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 2: maybe four. So when you know your role, like you said, Pat,

886
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: when you know your role, yeah, you can thrive and

887
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: the simple you keep it. You don't have to think.

888
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: I can just let my athletic ability take over. I

889
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: take my atholitic ability over anybody that's player I'm playing against.

890
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 5: And that's what anything right, that's what life right. And

891
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 5: the minutes you start to merge to the left lane,

892
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 5: you know that ain't your lanes stuff? Styles used to

893
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 5: start to hit that little gravel. No, I'm standing young man.

894
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 5: You try to merge in the right lane, you hit

895
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 5: that horn? No man, somebody behind you real quick, you.

896
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: Stand your lane. Good things happened, good things, Hien.

897
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: Ray jon Rondo recently said he holds no hard feelings

898
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: towards Ray Allen and wasn't responsible for not inviting right

899
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: to the Celtics reunions. Pat oh Yo, will kg and

900
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: truth Paul Piers? Will they ever bear the hatchet with?

901
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: Where is this thing? Or ever go away?

902
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 5: You won a championship? What's going on Pat, No, I

903
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 5: don't think so, right. I don't know personally what we

904
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 5: went down in that locker room when that happened, right,

905
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 5: So you know, and it's just speaking off just being

906
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 5: a basketball player. I think it's deeper than than what

907
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 5: people saying. I think it's a little bit more to it.

908
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 5: It has to be, damn, it has to be. It

909
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 5: has to be not you know, to hold a grudge

910
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 5: that long at that age. You can be young grudge,

911
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 5: but to be you're talking about in your forties. Now

912
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 5: you feel me like, yeah, you feel me. It has

913
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 5: to be something. And you won a championship.

914
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: It wasn't like y'all got closed and he left with

915
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 2: y'all was on the cusps. You hadn't won a championship.

916
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: You had been to another. And you know, I mean,

917
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: come on, now, you give a choice. Let's see, you're

918
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: gonna stay there and play with Ticket and Truth in

919
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 2: Rondo or you're gonna go play with d Wade, Chris

920
00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: bog and Lebron.

921
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 5: I'm giving you a choice, and yeah, I'm gonna go

922
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 5: play with us, d Wade, Lebron exactly.

923
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: Oh, you was down there in Miami, so you know,

924
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: think about you got Lebron and that was Lebron at

925
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: his apish. Yeah, we got him crescendo, You got d

926
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: Wade slashing, You got Chris Bosh, who sacrificed the most.

927
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: Because Chris Bosh was a twenty and ten guy.

928
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: People don't realize Pat Bell, how good, how great Chris

929
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: Bosh was when he was in Toronto.

930
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: He was you know, I got I got drafted to

931
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: the heat. Oh did you my rookie year was Lebron

932
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: James rook Yet.

933
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 5: Chris Bosh was the second best skilled player on the team. Wow,

934
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 5: the stuff he was doing in practice And okay, you

935
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 5: can ask you Dona's has them, Juwan Howard, Jamal mcgle

936
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 5: I'm not not Jamal big Kat. I got one of

937
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 5: the coaches in Toronto. I forgot his name. You can

938
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 5: go down the list for the guys that was there.

939
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 5: What he was moving to people in practice. I haven't

940
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 5: seen a four man ever do that to nobody, nobody.

941
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 5: He was destroying people in practice every single day, every day.

942
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 5: I'm a rookie up. I'm looking at Mike Miller, I'm

943
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 5: looking at Carlos Royo pulling up, and Red Ferraris and

944
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 5: Lebron James.

945
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: He two seventy and I'm looking at the wade. I'm

946
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm rookie. I'm in that like, oh okay, this what

947
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: it is?

948
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 5: Right? So like, so yeah, I seen that up closing

949
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 5: person and I've seen the preparation with that up closer person.

950
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: Man was in the weight room before everybody. Chris Bosh.

951
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: It's sad that what happened to him. It's sad.

952
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 5: It's sad, like he's supposed to go, like he's supposed

953
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 5: to do more. You're supposed to hear, like more stories

954
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 5: like yeah, you hit a gag winner in the championship.

955
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 5: He's a four time champion.

956
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys. Wow leaves talent.

957
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 6: M Hey uncle, I think I think it is personal

958
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 6: too long when you think about it, what Ray y'all said,

959
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 6: obviously him not being responsible and invite break.

960
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: It's I think it's more than just basketball. You know,

961
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: it's something we don't know about.

962
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 6: And it makes me think about the movie Life when Martin,

963
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 6: when martinon Eddie got into it and it was for

964
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 6: years and then they just think it all. It's like

965
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 6: that kind of level, like well, damn, you can really

966
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 6: do that Thus, that's all we've been through, and you're

967
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 6: gonna go play.

968
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: With the enemy.

969
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 5: And then when and then with that chip, Yeah, and

970
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 5: then when the reason they wanted.

971
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: Chip hit the shot heard around the world.

972
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want to hear it. I'm ray outa

973
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 5: Jesus Shuttleworf. I don't want to hear they taking that,

974
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 5: they taking that personal way. But like I said, I

975
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 5: just I think it's I mean, it's what that's been.

976
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 5: It's been fifteen years, it's been what twelve thirteen years,

977
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 5: But it's time to move.

978
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: You're closer to the end than the beginning. You only

979
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 2: got so many more trips around the sun now, I mean,

980
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: I hope y'all don think y'all got y'all got. I

981
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: don't know how Paul Pierce, and and and and and

982
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: Ticket is. Like you said, Pat, they're in their forties. Yeah,

983
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: you got your best years, your absolute best years are

984
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 2: behind you. To have a pity beef because someone left, Okay,

985
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 2: I guess.

986
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: People should feel bad for Ticket leaving Middlesop Club.

987
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: They should feel bad for Truth leaving Boston, but nobody

988
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: holds out against them because you went to a situation

989
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: that you felt was best for you. At the end

990
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: of the day, guys don't owe guys anything. I gotta

991
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: do what's in the best entriest for me. I'm a business.

992
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm an entity. I mean you think Google making decisions

993
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 2: on based on what Microsoft doing or what nothing?

994
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 5: You know?

995
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: Microsoft is an oracle on the video. Oh, I'm a business.

996
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: I gotta make with the decision that's best for me.

997
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: And I believe if the money is comparable, money is

998
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: gonna be better because they ain't got no state taxes

999
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: in Florida. And I'm playing with Lebron, I'm playing with

1000
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: d Wade, and I'm playing with a box.

1001
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1002
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 5: And I'm a brown ass man. I can make my

1003
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 5: own decisions. Oh yeah, O Joe, you ain't here. You

1004
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 5: ain't hear mone somebody? Is it only me? Because I

1005
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 5: can't hear your at bell? Yeah, I can hear.

1006
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: You can't hear us. I can't hear you. I can't

1007
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: hear I can hear O Joe too, Oh Joe, I

1008
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: can hear you. You're giving me? Ojoe? Yeah? You clear,

1009
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: y'all can if I can't hear you right now because

1010
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: I don't have my ears in Sorry, mh you hear me. Oh,

1011
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: he can't heah, he can't hear. I see.

1012
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 5: Look that's what happened when you you're talking about age.

1013
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 5: See when you get old, you stop here.

1014
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, y'all talking is but that's okay, y'all,

1015
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 2: y'all to talking.

1016
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: Man, got good send, Man, got good send.

1017
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 5: Y'all love the ki kidd Oh Joe falling all out

1018
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 5: of his chair, Pat Bell, Pat Bell standing on the head.

1019
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: Lad, Yeah, y'all talking. I don't Oh, he still can't.

1020
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: Oh what the hell you be watching on? Hey? Say chat?

1021
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: You know how you walk in the room and everybody

1022
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: be quiet, like, hey, man, how you doing?

1023
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: Been talking about me for the last thirty minutes? Talk

1024
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: about how I'm doing?

1025
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 5: No, I told him about and the decision he can make.

1026
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 5: He can make it because he's a grown ass man. Right,

1027
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 5: I'm not entitled to tell y'all to what to do or.

1028
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: Not to do. I'm I'm Ray Allen.

1029
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was reality before he got there, y'all.

1030
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 2: That make it seem like Ray Allen was not Ray Allen.

1031
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 2: Do they remember Realen in Milwaukee? Do they remember Rally

1032
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: in Seattle?

1033
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: Reality? His name was Jesus the first black man named Jesus.

1034
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't think people. I don't think people realize that.

1035
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: People don't realize how Ray he turned into a three

1036
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: point shooter. But Ray was going to the right, dunking

1037
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 2: on folks.

1038
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: His road changed and he knews wrong.

1039
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: Ray was giving folks, giving folks that business. Yeah, all right, leg,

1040
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: this is how I'm gonna need your expertise on this one.

1041
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: Y'all threw a grenade at the crowd the other night.

1042
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: You know, he know he can't. He can't b b BLA.

1043
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: He can't do that anymore. He can't do it. Pat,

1044
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: if you was in the locker room with yoah, what

1045
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: what what? What would you what would you sit sit

1046
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: down to talk to the young brother? What would you telling?

1047
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

1048
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 5: I wouldn't try to write because I was in a

1049
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 5: locker room and Anthony edwars too, right, So my job

1050
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 5: in a locker room's man. Look, I ain't here trying

1051
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 5: to be your daddy, but I'm gonna try to be

1052
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 5: a brother.

1053
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: You feel me.

1054
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 5: You know these folks on you right, you're hot right now.

1055
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 5: You just got out Yeah, you just got out here.

1056
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 5: You got to check here every so often, man, Look,

1057
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 5: stay off that corner.

1058
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: Them folks, they're looking for you.

1059
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, calm down, tread lightly, just do that for about

1060
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 5: six months. Them folks go give you anything you want.

1061
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: You can keep it moving.

1062
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 2: Not him, I mean, and a lot of times past

1063
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 2: we hear people that's not in that position. Let that

1064
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: man be him, let that man live his life. Well,

1065
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: that's why you're not in that position, because I don't

1066
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 2: care what anybody says. There are certain things that you

1067
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: have to do, no matter who you are or how

1068
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: much how big you are.

1069
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 5: Right, it is what it is. No, but my thing

1070
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,479
Speaker 5: is I hope it's not. I hope it's not gonna

1071
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 5: be a lingering thing. That's my thing. I hope it

1072
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 5: don't get to a point where we told you so

1073
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 5: you feel fact.

1074
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: They did it. They did it to thousand divers, right,

1075
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: they did it to you.

1076
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 5: Talking about a trend setting, you're talking about somebody literally

1077
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 5: changed the game. They got right out of that, not

1078
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 5: because of no no girls or no a.

1079
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: I wasn't even doing that.

1080
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 5: They got them out of that because I practice, do

1081
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 5: you practice? They made a thing, a big thing and

1082
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 5: got him out of that. So that's my that's my

1083
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 5: fear and everything right. You don't want to get to

1084
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 5: a point where you're such a big distraction that it's

1085
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 5: a negative uh kind of tutor that comes to you

1086
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 5: and around that organization, you know. So you just don't

1087
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 5: want especially his age, and especially what's going around now, right, right,

1088
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 5: especially what's going around now, especially what's going around in

1089
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 5: Memphis in these inner cities, who need who need that face,

1090
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 5: They need y'all, right, because he's their coach, right, So

1091
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 5: if he can like turn that light right and just

1092
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 5: turn it the other way, right, And I ain't telling

1093
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 5: you to go out there and pray to the gods

1094
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 5: and do all that. I'm telling you to be yourself,

1095
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 5: be a basketball player, be swaggy, be your dad.

1096
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: My son, do the grit. So they're taking some type

1097
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: of positive from it.

1098
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 5: My thing is, that's just use that big old light,

1099
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 5: that big old platform you got, John, That's just use

1100
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 5: it in another way.

1101
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: That's all.

1102
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, how surprised would you

1103
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: be if Memphis moved y'all in the off season?

1104
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 1: That's the sact.

1105
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's I wouldn't say that's gonna happen now,

1106
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 5: but that's usually the next steps you see a coach

1107
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 5: lee right, anytime if we're in the locker room, we

1108
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 5: see a coach get fired with my players get to

1109
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 5: looking around.

1110
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: Might the next man then player, I.

1111
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 6: Mean, listen, Yeah, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell

1112
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 6: you I have my sources in the NBA. I'm not

1113
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 6: gonna I'm not gonna disclose those sources because they probably

1114
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 6: wouldn't tell me anything else at this point.

1115
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: And Pat, and you know I could tell you.

1116
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 6: You know, I can see John coming down here, coming

1117
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 6: down here to bamy mm hmm.

1118
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:21,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1119
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna tell you who told me. And I'm

1120
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 6: not telling you. I'm not telling you what I heard.

1121
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 6: I'm telling you what I know.

1122
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: So if it does happen to have happened, you know

1123
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: later on in the future, you just know you heard

1124
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: it from me. First.

1125
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know if y'all got anything that they

1126
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: won't y'all gonna trade them, Bam, y'all gonna trade them

1127
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 2: Tyler Hero because that's the only pieces that y'all got.

1128
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: They're not gonna give you a y'all best player. You

1129
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: gotta give them something comfortable, Oh, Joe.

1130
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 6: Right, I mean we're across that Bridge when we get there.

1131
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 6: But I'm just telling I'm just telling you what I know.

1132
00:56:54,200 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 2: That's it because the reports are Nico Harris, Harris, Harrison, Harrison, Harrison.

1133
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: He reached out to Minnesota and man, is he available?

1134
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 5: No?

1135
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: He reached out to Milwaukee. Is y'all is available? No?

1136
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely so.

1137
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: But at that point in time, he was like, hold on,

1138
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: we're probably doing too much calling around. This is gonna

1139
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: get out so now so now, Pat Bell, we got

1140
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: a hone in Okay, our next our next move gotta

1141
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: be our best move.

1142
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: Hey uh?

1143
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 2: He called l A Rob Hey man, how you doing?

1144
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm good. What you think? Well, you think

1145
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: we can get the Davis off you for a Luca? No? No, no,

1146
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: no no. The language is different.

1147
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 5: The language had to be like this, ah, ring ring ring.

1148
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: What's up? Man? What's going on?

1149
00:57:59,440 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 5: Now?

1150
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: You doing it?

1151
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 5: Hey?

1152
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: I'm good?

1153
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 5: Check it out. I got something for you. I'm about

1154
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 5: to give you a ferrari. You give me back a

1155
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 5: bag of potato. You couldn't, no matter of fact, I'm

1156
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 5: gonna go lie to you a bag of potato with

1157
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 5: the hole in the bottle because you're giving me damaged goods.

1158
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: Damn pant.

1159
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 5: You could have said a bus pet. Now you're giving

1160
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 5: me damaged goods. Man, I got my goods. I couldn't

1161
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 5: even eat my goods. I can't play my goods. I

1162
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 5: can't cook my goods. My goods ain't available.

1163
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 1: Right, hey, dang it, let's see you, but i'll see

1164
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: you in l A.

1165
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 5: You driving Ferrari, you're doing me like yeah, and now

1166
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 5: they're looking at me crazy, tiking about fired me.

1167
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we ain't gonna do that. Nah,

1168
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna do that, not here, not here.

1169
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: But you know what in order, because here's the thing,

1170
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: there are certain people you don't even call and ask

1171
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: about you not even calling Boston asking about Jason Tato.

1172
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 2: You're not even there's certain you're not I mean, there

1173
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: are certain people you won't even call. So the meyre

1174
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: of fact Rob probably said, hold on, you would really

1175
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: consider trating Luca?

1176
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: Right, come come cause?

1177
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: Rob is taking like, hold on, you're not called you're

1178
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: not calling Golden Steak about no step, You're not calling okay,

1179
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: see about shape.

1180
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: You know they're not answering.

1181
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: You're not calling them about Yoke. There's some things you

1182
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: didn't even pick up the phone.

1183
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 5: The call.

1184
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: There's some things like we were.

1185
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: Growing up, you wouldn't ask your mom, dad or grandma.

1186
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even bother because I already don't dance.

1187
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: Her answer no every time. Listen, are you getting you

1188
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: getting ready to go in the store with your mama?

1189
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, she tell you before you even get

1190
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 6: out of the car when we get in here, don't you.

1191
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: Don't ask nothing?

1192
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: And you better not push that bug up on my

1193
00:59:53,480 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: damn heels either, real, you don't, Oh Joe, you know

1194
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: we pushed the bucket and all of a sudden they stopped.

1195
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: And you're not paying attention?

1196
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 5: Did I tell you you hit that?

1197
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: You hit that? Lord? Calve that Achilles?

1198
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, matter of fact, hold on my grandma, listen, I'll

1199
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 6: never forget you know about zas you ever heard?

1200
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: You are?

1201
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 6: Oh man, Pat, I done ran into my grandma, into Achilles,

1202
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 6: not paying attention, pushing the buggy, and she just stopped

1203
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 6: abruptly in front of me, And I had no idea

1204
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 6: ran into the back of her.

1205
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: And she didn't even look back at me.

1206
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 6: She just cool swim without even looking back. She knew

1207
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 6: exactly where the back right upside the head. That's nothing

1208
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 6: like don't ask for nothing. We're going here so on.

1209
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 5: I didn't get your I didn't get your feelings on

1210
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 5: this because you know you you you you you. The

1211
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 5: way you handled this was very very very perfect. You

1212
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 5: had two friends kind of get into it a little bit.

1213
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 5: How that feel who that Lebron and Stevie Day?

1214
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:05,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1215
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 5: I know that puts you in a little pickle man,

1216
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 5: I know that puts you in the pile bad man.

1217
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: Look here stephen A and stephen A.

1218
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 2: Lebron felt that steven A crossed the line because he

1219
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: questioned him as a father. You're not questioned in Brownie's skills.

1220
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: You're not questioning my skills. You questioned and saying I'm

1221
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 2: doing damage to my son by having him played. Bro

1222
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: he's the fifty fifth player. I mean there's only there's

1223
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 2: only sixty players selected. They make it seem like they

1224
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 2: took Bronnie at the lottery, right, and if you I'm

1225
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 2: not in Plus, you have to understand the man had

1226
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 2: a major medical issue. Give him some time to recover

1227
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: from that. Now, if in three years he's still mailing around, okay,

1228
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: this is what it is. Maybe he's a career g leaguer.

1229
01:01:54,240 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: Maybe he's a serviceable role player. But for me, once

1230
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 2: it tells me a lot for Lebron to do what

1231
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: he did, because Lebron has swallowed a lot of stuff.

1232
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: For twenty two years.

1233
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: For him to approach him in a public setting during

1234
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: the timeout of a basketball game, lets you know just

1235
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: how upset he was. He said what he said, Steven

1236
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 2: Ay said he understood cool. The problem that I had

1237
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: was Steven and and I told Steven a this bro,

1238
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: you should have left that alone.

1239
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: Once you say you understood it.

1240
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,479
Speaker 2: But when you went made the rounds and you said

1241
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 2: what you said on Gils Arena, and you went the

1242
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: other platform, and then like you added ye's to the story.

1243
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: That's why I was out on it.

1244
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Steven if my guy, we talk about a

1245
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: lot of stuff, not just you know he first takes stuff.

1246
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: We talk about a lot of stuff.

1247
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: And you know he's helped me, gave me, giving me

1248
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: some good advites, and I like to think I've given

1249
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: him some. I just wish whatever happened that Friday night

1250
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: or whatever it was, that would have been the end

1251
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 2: of it.

1252
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, And we made a good case on our part.

1253
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 5: We made a good case. People should be judged case scenario,

1254
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 5: right right, talk about the talent, right right, talk about

1255
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 5: me not being good, talk about like criticized me, right,

1256
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 5: But don't criticize me because of who my dad is.

1257
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you say, I'm fifty fifth pick.

1258
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 5: Ain't nobody talking about these two boma ass motherfuckers that

1259
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 5: was number one and number two?

1260
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: Exactly? That's losing every game. We don't even know.

1261
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 5: Look, we talk about Brownie so much. People forget that

1262
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 5: he was the fifty fifth pick. People forget who the

1263
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 5: first three picks were.

1264
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: Hell, I couldn't tell you, I mean hand the end

1265
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: of the picks.

1266
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 5: My point exactly, you feel me so like when you

1267
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 5: when you're dealing with that, right, and and and and

1268
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 5: and One thing I like about the James family the

1269
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 5: way they take the criticism is.

1270
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: Everybody everybody built for that. Pat Bell remarkable. Yeah, but

1271
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: also you know, we've got to understand.

1272
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 6: You got to understand how long they've been in it,

1273
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 6: how long they've been in so really, after this, after

1274
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 6: this long, you have to think the pression has been on.

1275
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: Lebron says, what coming out of house.

1276
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: Since he was a junior high school and everybody he

1277
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: burst off when they put him on cover. Illowstone Sports

1278
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: Illustrated said the chosen one. Yeah, so he's forty. He's

1279
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: forty now. He was sixteen or seventeen then. So that's

1280
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 2: been twenty three, twenty four years for damn near a

1281
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 2: quarter century.

1282
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: He's been in the public eye.

1283
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: Yes, So it's just like it's just like any parent,

1284
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: if you're in a situation and you can help your child,

1285
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 2: you doesn't. We see these We see the sing Hills

1286
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 2: and presidents, and he own the companies. What did Jerry

1287
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: do all of his kids? Ain't nobody to say nothing? Well,

1288
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: Steven ain't qualified, Charlotte ain't qualified. After parent, that's what

1289
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: you do. You try to put your kid in the

1290
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 2: best situation, and then it's up to him to make

1291
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 2: the best of the situation that you put him in.

1292
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: We got huh, we.

1293
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 5: Got the blueprint from that's what we got to bloom. Oh, man,

1294
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 5: I see the CEOs they're doing this. Man, okay, man,

1295
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 5: this person deserve this job. But they go hire they

1296
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,919
Speaker 5: go high cut, cuzzle over here, cuzzling and really did numb,

1297
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 5: but they still go high. Okay, cool, we tilled all day,

1298
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 5: so let's do the.

1299
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: Same thing, right, I mean collectively longevity.

1300
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 5: Uh you talk about legacy wise, you have to get

1301
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 5: the first, the mom a lot of credit because it

1302
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 5: starts with her and it trickles all the way down

1303
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 5: right to Miss Savona. It trickles all the way down.

1304
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 5: You have to give that family a lot of credit.

1305
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 5: They've They've done a lot and to steal every time

1306
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 5: you see them for them to look so so royal.

1307
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: So like with so much royalty and themselves.

1308
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 5: The class is really impressive, especially coming from from the

1309
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 5: black culture, especially coming around the black coach.

1310
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 6: And this is how I know, this is how No,

1311
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 6: not only is it James class, the James family is

1312
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 6: class personified, but Lebron James well pat because you think

1313
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 6: about his accolades, his achievements, and what he's been able

1314
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 6: to do since coming out of high school, the pressure

1315
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 6: being on him, him being able to take it all

1316
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 6: this time and reaching a milestone of being the highest

1317
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 6: scoring Indian player of all time, and the fact that

1318
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 6: when he hit that fifty thousand points, you know, and

1319
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 6: whatever game that was. I just wanted to show you

1320
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 6: because the rest of the chat has seen it, some

1321
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 6: of some other some of the other people that have

1322
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 6: been on here, being able to see uncles, been able

1323
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 6: to see it. You know, Lebron gifted be the fifty

1324
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 6: thousand ball, the fifty thousand point ball, and I just

1325
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 6: want to show it to you.

1326
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: Just check that out. You sure, yeah, yeah, you know.

1327
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was on the Lakers when

1328
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: that game happen. Yeah, this is the ball right here.

1329
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:52,959
Speaker 1: You're turning around a little bit. No, that ain't.

1330
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 5: No, that ain't I know I haven't played with that ball.

1331
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 5: I haven't played with the ball. Yeah, I'll score to

1332
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 5: that game. That ain't the ball I scored with. That

1333
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 5: ain't the ball. Brad, Pa, what's going on with you?

1334
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 5: Lou will and Brandon Jennings.

1335
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 2: You posted today that you kick their ass of the

1336
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: one on one tournament, Lou William, Jeff Kie, Brandon Jennings,

1337
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: Ty Lawson, every one of the buoys.

1338
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: You get on the court with me, and I'm gonna

1339
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: dog y'all what you say, uh uh low five, high five,

1340
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: patent five.

1341
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 5: Hey No, But so you got to understand, like, uh,

1342
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 5: for me, my role coming to the NBA was very different.

1343
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: Right, I've been on the team with Ty Lawson.

1344
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 5: Right, I've been on the team with Lou will right,

1345
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 5: I've been I played against Brandon Jennings.

1346
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: So.

1347
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 5: Five on five segment is very different than the one

1348
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 5: on one set, absolutely right. Yeah, I'm able to practice

1349
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 5: against these guys and I'm the guy that man I

1350
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 5: can't shoot anyway. I got to play defense all the

1351
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 5: time because I got to say, y'all ass anyway. So okay,

1352
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 5: so they know what I bring to the Like you

1353
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 5: know that guy in practice that no matter you suit

1354
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 5: up with you.

1355
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: Man, he gonna get me hell every single day, he

1356
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: ain't gonna let.

1357
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 5: Up, right or if y'all in my case, y'all probably

1358
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 5: was the guy that didn't let.

1359
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: Up on you. You know what I'm saying. So that's

1360
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: how it is with me in practice.

1361
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 5: So like I know, coming in in a door like

1362
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 5: one on one in the door with me, like like

1363
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 5: with me, I'm a different animal, Like I don't stop chewing,

1364
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 5: I keep going, I keep going, I keep going.

1365
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: I won't bone. All want flesh, I won't bone, I

1366
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: want meat. I will gristle.

1367
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 5: I want veins like I'm I'm I'm yeah, I get

1368
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 5: wild when I'm in that cage, you know.

1369
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: So I like that. I like that it's different.

1370
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 6: Hey, I got a question, since you really got that

1371
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 6: kind of you got that. In fact, you got that

1372
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 6: obviously most most of us we call it that dog mentality.

1373
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 6: It's not something that's taught, it's already in you. You

1374
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 6: already got that. So I'm just curious you talk about

1375
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 6: playing them boys if you and not go to place

1376
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 6: one on one knowing that we both kind of think

1377
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 6: alike and we cut from the same motherfucking claw.

1378
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: You think a game the eleven, you could deal with me?

1379
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, not not not not like uh see, look

1380
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 5: at my finger's doing something.

1381
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't even know what.

1382
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 5: They're doing right, right, right, but look, but not not

1383
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 5: like just because because like you play a different sport

1384
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 5: or whatever. That's not the case, just the just the

1385
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 5: case that I will die out there before I loose.

1386
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: Are you willing to do the same?

1387
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 6: Hold on, I'm willing to die about a lot of things, like, Okay,

1388
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 6: let me tell you something.

1389
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something about me.

1390
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 6: Right, I owe fifty two hundred dollars, Right, I ain't

1391
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 6: paid money in.

1392
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 8: About seven about you get ahold that I'm willing nd

1393
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 8: you're crazy. He got our own and I ain't even paid.

1394
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 8: But I ain't paying Oh hell dog oh hey on dog.

1395
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 5: Man cut before you get on the court, and and

1396
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 5: and on the on the side.

1397
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 2: Can't y'all heard this band, this fat be talk about

1398
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 2: all night, talk about yeah, come up running your money.

1399
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: We get to Baltimore. Now he can't doing without. He

1400
01:09:58,479 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: ain't gonna pay me my buskey.

1401
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: I just usually had a small example. Now I'm gonna

1402
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: give your money anyway.

1403
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 6: I'm just I would give I would telling Pat, I'm

1404
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 6: trying to give an example or how like I'm willing

1405
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 6: to die bout not giving it, but I'm gonna give

1406
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 6: it to you.

1407
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to trying to get Pat. Yeah, I'm

1408
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: trying to get Pat to understand, like I'm really like

1409
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: that too, And if you're willing to die by that,

1410
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean we on the same page, right, I would.

1411
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: I would really love the schedule one on one between us.

1412
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: I come to you, I'll start to five to eleven.

1413
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: Hool me. I'm talking to you. No, no, no, no.

1414
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 6: See this this is the thing you played. You played

1415
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 6: professional basketball. You have yet to see me play. I

1416
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,799
Speaker 6: averaged fifty six in high school. I was supposed to

1417
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 6: go to the NBA, but I got in trouble. I

1418
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 6: got suspended, I got kicked out of school, so I

1419
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 6: had no choice and I went to a school that

1420
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 6: I only had football, so I was forced to do that.

1421
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: You hit me, huh. So I got the set, not

1422
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: the transition into that. And if I need to get

1423
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: back to what I normally do and that putting built

1424
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: the ass on the court, you could be the first one.

1425
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 5: Now.

1426
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: So so with with sports, and I think we all

1427
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: know this.

1428
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 5: With sports, it's uh, it's the it's the major major

1429
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 5: component that's always important, and that's conditioning.

1430
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: Right, that's me, that's me. I'm conditioning, right, I'm conditioning.

1431
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 5: I just played a game a month ago in front

1432
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 5: of seven thousand, you know, eighteen five and five. You know,

1433
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 5: I'm okay. They yeah, they screamed another language over that.

1434
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 5: Why I'm plan, I'm I'm I'm happy. By way, I'm

1435
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 5: back telling on the way back like this right this, okay.

1436
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 5: So conditioning is a part of it. Mental conditioning is

1437
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 5: the most important part of it. That's that's right. They

1438
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 5: don't teach you.

1439
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: That's what you can't get in the gym, right, that's

1440
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: that's that stuff.

1441
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 5: I'm gonna just lift and keep doing this rep until

1442
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 5: all my muscles burned, until I feel a burn that

1443
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 5: I ain't never felt before. And then when I feel that,

1444
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do some more. Okay, that tight, but I

1445
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 5: get wold. Okay, well let me, yeah, let me, let me.

1446
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 5: Let me tell you something about my.

1447
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Yeah? Yeah, Wow, I'm gonna tell you.

1448
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you about my my kind of conditioning.

1449
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 6: All right, my conditioning. You know, I play socceryld on, let.

1450
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: Me write it right this down, because I like to

1451
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: be ahead, flight right right it down. I played a striker,

1452
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: you hear me. I played a nine.

1453
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 6: I played forty five minute half strength with no break,

1454
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 6: running full speed.

1455
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: You hear me.

1456
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 6: That's fast. That's no breaks, no timeouts, no commercials. Forty

1457
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 6: five minutes. That's two halves of those. Okay, that's part

1458
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 6: of my conditioning. Then my physical and mental condition I

1459
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 6: take these right here? How these called roast falls? Now,

1460
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 6: this kind of conditioning, I don't know you one of

1461
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 6: them that might be over. I popped one of these,

1462
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 6: you hear me. I put cha in, kim put her

1463
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 6: through the mattress, you hear me. I make sure she

1464
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 6: touched every corner.

1465
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 1: Of the wall. Huh.

1466
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 6: I put on the ceiling fan and I tied to

1467
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 6: the ceiling fan and nigga go around in circles. That's

1468
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 6: the kind of condition I'm talking about, you shooting up

1469
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 6: on them.

1470
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, hey, man, let the three go. Hey wait.

1471
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: I love you boy.

1472
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 5: But those guys, man, they know, they know those guys man,

1473
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 5: they just you know they I get the text like

1474
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 5: it's funny because I get the text from guys like yeah, man,

1475
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 5: that's that's key. Running it up for the media, And

1476
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 5: in my mind, I'm like, no, I'm dead serious. Yeah, like,

1477
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 5: well I ain't doing this because no media, I'm dead

1478
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 5: seius I bust all y'all ass like for real, like

1479
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 5: and we we could do it with cameras, with our cameras.

1480
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: How do you want to do it? You feel me

1481
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: how you want to do it? So yeah, fa so

1482
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: let us so let this. Let me get this.

1483
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 2: I get a sponsor and I'm gonna put fifty thousand

1484
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 2: on the line, so you uh lou will tyd love

1485
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 2: some Brandon Jennings one on one winner take off?

1486
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: Who taking the money?

1487
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 5: I'm I'm gonna say this, you will be not an

1488
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 5: intelligent man against me. I'll tell you that. No, we're

1489
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 5: gonna put it down. The winner, get it off, the

1490
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 5: winner get the whole fifty thousand.

1491
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, No, you ain't fit out a both o'

1492
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: thing to it.

1493
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 5: Hey, no, and listen, I know it's cap when I

1494
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 5: when I tell a person, come on, let's play one.

1495
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 5: Hunt's let'sle's, let's play one. I want four hundred thousand.

1496
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 5: You gonna get go your chase. I'm gonna go to

1497
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 5: my chain. I'm gonna take out a hunty take out

1498
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 5: of huntre. Don't nobody got to be there. We'll play.

1499
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 5: I guarantee you all them say.

1500
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. Hey, hey, hey, uh uh, Brandon,

1501
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: Jennis Long, Hey, I got y'all. Matter of fact, I

1502
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: got something even better.

1503
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 5: Ye right, y'all y'all both know, and y'all say, y'all

1504
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 5: got sources, and y'all both know people that's in basketball.

1505
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, ask them, just ask them.

1506
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 5: Hey, man, look if if one of them suit up

1507
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 5: with pack, because you know, we don't really know, but

1508
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 5: if one of them suit up with pack, how did

1509
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 5: I come and beat everybody? Tell you the same, like, man, Yeah,

1510
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 5: they can play but boy, Pat different, he different. He different, Yeah, different,

1511
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 5: he different. He just different.

1512
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: He not go stop.

1513
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 5: He's still working out, he still playing basketball, like he

1514
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 5: Pat different, d different.

1515
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's all. Are you trying to a Pat?

1516
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: Are you trying to come back to the NBA? Are

1517
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 2: you cool with where you are now?

1518
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 5: You know what, I'll lat to you and say I

1519
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 5: don't want to come back to the NBA, right, I'll

1520
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 5: lat to you and say that, Like, you're a basketball player.

1521
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 1: You want to keep playing.

1522
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 5: You want to You want to get a game anything

1523
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 5: you can give it, right, you want to get a game,

1524
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 5: anything you can give it.

1525
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: You can play.

1526
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 5: Play, I still can play. I still I still got

1527
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 5: a good three years left them. You feel you just

1528
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 5: got a couple of calls if I one decide to

1529
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 5: go back overseas and play. So like basketball is always

1530
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 5: a door open open for me. But again we speak

1531
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 5: about longevity also, which is right. You know, I've done

1532
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 5: a good job take care of my body to still

1533
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,480
Speaker 5: even be in this position. So yeah, if that opportunity

1534
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 5: presents itself, I'm gonna be misster ninety four feet to

1535
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 5: be reading.

1536
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: So in other words, in your claws in the overseas.

1537
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 2: You can opt down to come to an NBA if

1538
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 2: an NBA team offer you correct, correct, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1539
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 2: I like it.

1540
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 5: Yeah so yeah, I mean it's been it's been a

1541
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 5: fun ride. I've been doing this for seventeen years. Right,

1542
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 5: I've been doing this five years overseas. Uh, I haven't

1543
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,719
Speaker 5: seen the whole world, man, I have seen. I haven't

1544
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 5: seen Italy, I haven't seen Russia. I don't seen. I

1545
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 5: don't seen the Israel. I don't seen Greece. I don't seen.

1546
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 5: I don't seen so many different countries.

1547
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 2: On what's what's some of the best souvenirs that you

1548
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 2: brought back from the countries, because I know you got

1549
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 2: to bring something back because Russia and Italy is real,

1550
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 2: and the Greece and Turkey all the place you've been.

1551
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: What's some of the best souvenirs that you brought back back?

1552
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 5: You know what I'll just say, I just say my

1553
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 5: mentor ones, right, the people I've met through my journey, right,

1554
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 5: the coaches I've had, because you know, the European coaches

1555
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 5: are very different than what the what the NBA is.

1556
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 5: The friendships I have, right, the restaurants that I can

1557
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 5: go back in Israel right now, if I want to

1558
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 5: go to and and it looks exactly the same, right,

1559
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 5: I'm able to bring my mom, you know, shot glasses

1560
01:17:58,400 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 5: from different countries.

1561
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: You know you don't drink at all, but just to

1562
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: have something that you know, my son bring me there.

1563
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 5: So like I mean this ride of mind, you're talking

1564
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 5: about twelve years in the NBA, five years overseas man,

1565
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,759
Speaker 5: seventeen years pro doing an inner city kid from Chicago,

1566
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 5: mother for you got to think John Shire, me and

1567
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 5: Derreck Rose, we are the same class.

1568
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: I was the third best. I was the third best

1569
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: player in that class. I'm the only player still playing basketball.

1570
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 2: Yep, John shotted coach a Duke, John Shire, him Me,

1571
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 2: Derrick Rose.

1572
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: I was the third best player out of all of them.

1573
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm the only one still playing basketball. But y'all didn't

1574
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 1: know that, did you? Chat? Wow? Pat Ba, your twelve

1575
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: years in the NBA, you played with a lot of

1576
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 1: great players.

1577
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 2: You was on Philly, You played with your EMBIID, and

1578
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 2: you were with Lebron and a D and you with

1579
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 2: Kawhi and PG and Jays. You played with James Harden.

1580
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 2: You played with some of the great all seventy five players.

1581
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 2: If you don't mind, what was some of the things

1582
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 2: that you said, you would think that kind of made

1583
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 2: them who they are what they are.

1584
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 5: Lebron I'm gonna start with Lebron James because he has

1585
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 5: to go first, because he was probably the biggest impact

1586
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 5: in my career. I met Lebron when I was a

1587
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 5: rookie in Miami, and he really gave me the brew plant.

1588
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: Oh being in the NBA and what his goal to

1589
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: stay in the NBA.

1590
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 5: Right, he just did all extra shit, like, Okay, we

1591
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 5: we sprinting with the Miami Heat.

1592
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 1: He fucking pad, Let's do five most sprints. I'm a rookie.

1593
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 5: Why I'm gonna say no, Lebron James, We're doing a sprint.

1594
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 5: He don't want to do regular sprints. He wanted to

1595
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 5: touch the wall. You feel me? Yeah, it might be

1596
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 5: it might be nothing, It might be an extra little

1597
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 5: two feet, but those extra two feet add up over.

1598
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: So many more times. Right right with James Harden, I seen.

1599
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 5: His ability to take the game of basketball and make

1600
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 5: it okay, how can I cheat the game? When I

1601
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 5: say cheat the game? How can I get to the

1602
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 5: free throw line twenty times? What's the gray area into that?

1603
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 5: How can I use my IQ when my athletics and falls,

1604
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 5: my athleticism falls, and still be an elite skill player. Right?

1605
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 5: So I learned pick and roll isolation, the amount of

1606
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 5: time it takes to get from an ISO to a

1607
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 5: you know, from a switch. Then I go Kawhi Leonard.

1608
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 5: I've never seen anybody in my life work out like

1609
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 5: him on the basketball court. Right as basketball course, a

1610
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 5: basketball player, as you rep it, you know, you might

1611
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 5: shoot fast spats, you might shoot seven spots.

1612
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:33,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot.

1613
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 5: Five the corner, the wing, the top of the key,

1614
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 5: corner wing, I'm gonna shoot fivet spots. Him he different,

1615
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 5: He shoot nine spots. When you shoot fast wats.

1616
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 1: Regularly, you make ten. With him, he make twenty twenty

1617
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: nine spots. And it's not surprising to me.

1618
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 5: When he plays sometimes he gets hurt, Yes, he gets

1619
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 5: hurt because he's putting in so much extra work on

1620
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:53,799
Speaker 5: the basketball.

1621
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 1: Wow, I've never seen a player.

1622
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 5: I've never seen a player workout like Kawhilin in my

1623
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 5: entire life of being.

1624
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: On this earth. Damn.

1625
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 5: His work arts are simple, they're extremely hard. They're extremely hard.

1626
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 5: I'm talking about make twenty nine spots make twenty. Another

1627
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 5: nine spots, make twenty going left fast spots, make another

1628
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 5: twenty left fast spots.

1629
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: Your arms so tired and your your mind so drained.

1630
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: Right you forge?

1631
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I done got up a thousand Today, we go

1632
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 5: do it again tomorrow path two thousands.

1633
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it again tomorrow path three thousand. We

1634
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 1: had six thousand makes in a week. I say, man,

1635
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 1: this man is this man different? He did?

1636
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you missed gang, You missed the Gang Winner. You

1637
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 5: gotta make twenty, you miss twenty, you go back down

1638
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 5: to fifteen. I'm talking about when it comes to like,

1639
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 5: and it's not a lot of uh, ain't no joking

1640
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 5: in the locker room, ain't no a cruse for eight

1641
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 5: to ten people, ain't no cameras.

1642
01:21:55,720 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: It's me, his homie, my home, four people, homies rebound,

1643
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: let's work.

1644
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 5: Wow, So what he did? Like and everyone knows. But

1645
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 5: y'all know, like, with that amount of work you put in, yeah,

1646
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 5: you know, you might be hurt. It might not show

1647
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 5: up this game, but in the playoffs he shows up

1648
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 5: every single time. Yeah, every single time. I was able

1649
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 5: to have some really good bets and I ain't going

1650
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 5: out to you. I had some motherfuckers that I was like, yeah,

1651
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 5: let me stay away from him. I'm cool, you feel me.

1652
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 5: I don't have the best. They walk in there with

1653
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 5: with with flip flops on. The games starting an hour

1654
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 5: they walking there with flip flops on. Okay, cool, Okay.

1655
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 5: Next two years they out the league. Okay cool, Yeah, Pat,

1656
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 5: don't do that, don't do that.

1657
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: Don't do that. So I had I had the best

1658
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: of both worlds.

1659
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 5: I was able to see people with big names get

1660
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 5: out the league, and I was able to see people

1661
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 5: that stayed in the league without big names. I ain't

1662
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 5: never average over ten points a game. I played twelve

1663
01:22:58,280 --> 01:22:59,799
Speaker 5: years in the NBA. I missed the playoffs.

1664
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: One wow.

1665
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 5: I got drafted forty two. I got drafted the same

1666
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 5: draft Steph Curry, Drift. They took nineteen point guards. I

1667
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 5: was one of them. Arn Keith Earn my keep.

1668
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 1: That's it. I made over one hundred million dollars in

1669
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: the NBA.

1670
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 2: Man uncle earned my keyp You recently made some critical

1671
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 2: comments about the Sixers wasting opportunities. If you were the

1672
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 2: GM of the Sixers, you got max contract, Joel andb

1673
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 2: max contract. Paul George Max contract, Tyres MAXI you're the GM,

1674
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:37,839
Speaker 2: Pat Belly, the GM of the sixers.

1675
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 5: What are you doing this offseason? This off season that

1676
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 5: be it'll be tough. It'll be tough for me again

1677
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 5: because now I have damaged goods. All those players you name,

1678
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 5: they ended this season hurt, right, So now I'm doing

1679
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 5: a deal with a team, It'll be tough for me.

1680
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,560
Speaker 5: Didn't even get that off. They didn't play well, they underperformed,

1681
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 5: and they hurt. So yeah, I'm I'm I'm giving you unk.

1682
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 5: That red Ferrari ain't a Red Ferrari no more. It

1683
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 5: got a little den center, the little painter shiped a

1684
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 5: little bit, the muffler, hang it back on the loose.

1685
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 5: It ain't the Red Ferrari no more. I don't think

1686
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 5: people striving. I ain't gonna lieu. I don't think you

1687
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 5: want what I got to give you.

1688
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 4: Now.

1689
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: We gotta overload.

1690
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 5: We got to ask them first, some first rounds, we

1691
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 5: gotta ask some second rounds. I think they put themselves

1692
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 5: in a position to either be really good or to

1693
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 5: be really bad.

1694
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,879
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, when you got the contract, Joel ebiid

1695
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 2: you got three years coming at one hundred and ninety

1696
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 2: three million. You got Paul George, got it, He's gonna

1697
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: pick up that fifty option. He's gonna pick that up.

1698
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:40,759
Speaker 2: So you basically so basically you got uh Paul George

1699
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: for another four years excess to two hundred million. Tyree's Maxy.

1700
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: I think ty Ree's MAXI is he He's on gonna

1701
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 2: Mille All Star. He's phenomenal. But I just don't know

1702
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do with Joel and Bid, with his

1703
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 2: injury history, with his age and that contract. Paul George,

1704
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 2: his injury history of the Bloe eight, his age and

1705
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:02,440
Speaker 2: that contract.

1706
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: What could you possibly do?

1707
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 5: You know what you gotta You gotta let it play

1708
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 5: out one more year, right, and then, like we said

1709
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 5: with anything with basketball, the first person to going ain't

1710
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 5: the players to coach.

1711
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 1: Right. And I played for Philly. I played for that

1712
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: beautiful city on I played for Nick Nurse. Right. I

1713
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: played with Joel.

1714
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 5: I know how nice he is. I play with Tyre's Max,

1715
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 5: and when he got most improved that year, I know

1716
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 5: how good he is. But you go feel a lot

1717
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 5: of pressure from that city. Y'all know, Philly, yep, Philly

1718
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,560
Speaker 5: a different city when it comes to sports. When it

1719
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,759
Speaker 5: comes to sports, Philly take they they take they they sports.

1720
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 5: They go to sleep with it. They go to sleep

1721
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 5: with they sports. They drink coffee, coffee mugs. They got

1722
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 5: Philly's cup. They go, they sleep, they wake up with

1723
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 5: they sports. If you don't do something fast with that,

1724
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 5: no matter what it is, and don't do the wrong

1725
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 5: thing and the wrong thing and get rid of Joel,

1726
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,679
Speaker 5: you get rid of Joel, and this don't go right. Yeah,

1727
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 5: you talk about losing for a lot of years. Right,

1728
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 5: but if you if you, if you get the right

1729
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 5: doctors in, you get the right medical staff, and you

1730
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 5: get the right locker room pieces around them that you know,

1731
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 5: maybe you guys don't feel hurt.

1732
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: You feel me, Yeah, maybe you got I ain't gonna lie.

1733
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 5: If you got ten games to go, right and you

1734
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 5: and you need to win seven of them to make

1735
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,600
Speaker 5: it to the playoffs, that need that was hurting. It

1736
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 5: don't feel that that bad today, right, But if you

1737
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 5: got ten games to go and you got to win

1738
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 5: eleven of them, you know, I don't want to play tonight.

1739
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 1: It's just different, uh, Right. They just need they need

1740
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: a coach.

1741
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 5: They need a coach or anything with that involves winning,

1742
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 5: regardless if it's a company, it's a football team, it's

1743
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 5: a basketball team, it's a it's a karate unit, with

1744
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 5: with with with ten year olds. You need coach, you

1745
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 5: need culture. In order to be good at anything, you

1746
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 5: need the right culture and right and this year they

1747
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 5: didn't have it.

1748
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: Pat, I look at och Or Now.

1749
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 2: We had a discussion and I said, I looked at

1750
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 2: it like this, Joel and bead end of the season.

1751
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 2: He played in the postseason, but basically on one leg.

1752
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 2: Why not have the surgery on the leg or rest

1753
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 2: the leg? If surgery were required, why go to the Olympics.

1754
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 2: And I understand the Olympics. America has done so much

1755
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 2: for Joe Lynbid and his family. He's made him rich,

1756
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 2: but wild is beyond his dreams. But he had a talent.

1757
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 2: He parlayid that I don't get going to play for

1758
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 2: the Olympics. And if I'm the Sixers, I'm not gonna

1759
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 2: allow Joe to play because I got two three hundred

1760
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: million dollars tied up in you and you spent the

1761
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 2: half the season, the majority of the season injured. Do

1762
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 2: you think he should have played in the Olympics? If

1763
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: you if you owned the If you're Jeorsgh Harris and

1764
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 2: you owned the sixers, are you allowing your injured player

1765
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 2: who injured the season, who uh the last part of

1766
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 2: the season and in the postseason was injured. Are you

1767
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 2: gonna allow him to play or to have or are

1768
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: you gonna say you need to have surgery or you

1769
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: need to rest to make sure you're healthy for the

1770
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 2: seventy six ers.

1771
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: So throughout that whole year, they knew that the team

1772
01:27:58,200 --> 01:27:59,759
Speaker 1: came up short the year before.

1773
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 5: So being around the NBA at that time, you heard

1774
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 5: little chatter, right you hear little chatter. Am Joel playing,

1775
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 5: Damn kd playing and Kawhi you playing, Steph Curry playing, Lebron.

1776
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 1: Said he playing? Did you playing like you start? You

1777
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: start hearing about it?

1778
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 5: And now became it became no everybody playing, all the

1779
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 5: top dogs playing. Right, You didn't want to miss a

1780
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 5: seat on that bus because what they did, they go

1781
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 5: down in history, right, they go go down in history.

1782
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 5: So with that with the States have dumb, you know,

1783
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 5: in his defense, in his mind, he was like, you know,

1784
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 5: Pat like, feel me like man, like my son was

1785
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 5: born here, feel me like myn was born here. I'm

1786
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 5: putting on for the little home. Right, you can't go

1787
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 5: against that, right I'm putting. I'm putting on for my son.

1788
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 5: So like I thought, I thought what he did, the

1789
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 5: decision he made, I thought, I thought it was a

1790
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 5: fantastic decision.

1791
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: Right, I thought him coming up whinning, winning and go.

1792
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 5: I thought he was gonna take that momentum and go

1793
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 5: back to Philly because in the Olympics he seemed he

1794
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 5: seemed in great condition. He said, lee condition. He didn't

1795
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,560
Speaker 5: seem like, you know, like he was dragging anything. He

1796
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,839
Speaker 5: looked really good. He was probably one of the reasons,

1797
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 5: the main reason he hit the mid range shot when

1798
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 5: when US couldn't score right there on the right wing

1799
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 5: over yo kid, Yeah, I guess Serbia. Yeah, he hit

1800
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 5: that shot. That was a big shot. People don't understand

1801
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 5: that's probably one of the biggest shots because in USA

1802
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 5: couldn't score.

1803
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 1: He hit that shot.

1804
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 5: They go on Steph Curry dowist thing, Lebron dwist thing,

1805
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 5: but they win a game like they brung home the gold.

1806
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 1: I can't never fault a person who put on for

1807
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: his country and brought us back gold.

1808
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 2: Uh No, But if you if you Josh Harris and

1809
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 2: you got three hundred million dollars tied up in him,

1810
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 2: you can fault him.

1811
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1812
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you, Josh Harris, you're looking at him from

1813
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 5: a whole different beasts.

1814
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, you looking at it from a business point. Yeah.

1815
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 4: I hear you.

1816
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 1: I hear that.

1817
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 6: I hear you.

1818
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're gonna need We're gonna need gold in

1819
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 1: Philly too, So yeah, it goes both ways. I'm just

1820
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 1: glad Josh Harris. I'm that's a that's a hard job

1821
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: to have. Yeah, that's a.

1822
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 2: Hard job to have because you shilling, you shelling that money.

1823
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, and you had what's the gym

1824
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 2: in Philly? You had him in the in the Houston.

1825
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 2: He's talking about the GM.

1826
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: I walk on the bus. Uncle say hey, Darren Moore,

1827
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 1: you trade me? He no, Pat, I ain't trade you.

1828
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: I was traded three days like damn.

1829
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 5: And you know me. I'm I'm twelve years in so

1830
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 5: and I know him. He came and got me, you

1831
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 5: feel me. He came and got me in Europe. So

1832
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 5: he brought me to the Rockets. He gave me my

1833
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 5: first contract. So it's my mama, noah, So you be

1834
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 5: mad even though he traded. You can't be mad because

1835
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 5: he brought you.

1836
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: That's my man. Yeah, it ain't personal business. But yeah,

1837
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: I got on the bus. I got right on the bus. Hey, Darrel,

1838
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 1: what's going on?

1839
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 4: Man?

1840
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: I see you on the on the on a lot

1841
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 1: of away games like man, uh, I know trade by

1842
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 1: go Dow. I'm getting traded on Patrick?

1843
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 5: Cool?

1844
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Pat, you're going to Milwaukee? All right? Cool?

1845
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: I know the bites is uh, you feel me?

1846
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 2: But if this ain't no work out because he extended

1847
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid when he didn't have to, it's easy to

1848
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 2: give somebody else money away pack as opposed to spin

1849
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 2: your old Josh Harritt.

1850
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 1: Look at that hold on.

1851
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 2: You brought in Paul George, gave him a five basically

1852
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 2: a five year deal when it seemed like the Clippers

1853
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 2: was only willing to go to three. You signed Joel

1854
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 2: Embiid when he had two years still left on this deal,

1855
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 2: and you gave him a three year extension of a

1856
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 2: one ninety three.

1857
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 9: This better workout. Get You gave Nick Nurse the bad,

1858
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 9: don't get about that. You better work out, Pat. You

1859
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 9: gave Tyrese Maxie the bad. Yeah, so you got three

1860
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 9: guys basically on the Max Car track. Yeah, I just

1861
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 9: it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough. I think

1862
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 9: this is years out. I don't think this is something

1863
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 9: that can just turn around instantly. I think again, I

1864
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 9: think they gotta fix what's in the locker room.

1865
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 5: Right if it's a star player, if it's a superstar player,

1866
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 5: if it's the kid who you draft, or if it's

1867
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 5: the role player who's wave in town, you gotta get that.

1868
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 5: You gotta get that culture together. And once you get

1869
01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:59,640
Speaker 5: that together, you can kind of navigate your way through

1870
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 5: basket ball games. That's an easy part. But they got

1871
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 5: to fix that locker room. They gotta fix the culture

1872
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 5: that that that that organization back.

1873
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 1: They gotta get it back.

1874
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 7: The volume

1875
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 5: M hm