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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's

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Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only

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Speaker 1: the truth lives here. Packed twelve Apostles.

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Speaker 2: Yo, it is weak zero. I'm George Reister, He's Ralph

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Speaker 2: Hampton and this is the PAC twelve Apostles final season

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Speaker 2: podcasts not going away. Remember that it will just have

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Speaker 2: a different name. We have had a couple of requests though,

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Speaker 2: people who are like, you must keep the Apostles name

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Speaker 2: in the podcast. I'm like, okay, cool are are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you cool with that?

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with it. I'm cool with it. It's you know,

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Speaker 3: what do we what do we get in the divorce?

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Speaker 3: That's where we're at.

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Speaker 2: And you guys can always shoot us an email. I'm mad,

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Speaker 2: I am ama d at Unafraid show dot com or

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Speaker 2: hit us on Twitter at PAC twelve Apostles or at

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Speaker 2: Ralph am and are at George Reister. So today, Ralph,

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Speaker 2: before we well, we have one game to preview today

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Speaker 2: because USC is in action. But again for what feels

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Speaker 2: like the millionth time, and we were off four months,

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Speaker 2: but the million time, we got to talk about conference

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Speaker 2: realignment as well, and this time it is cal. It

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Speaker 2: is cal Ford who is trying to find a home

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Speaker 2: in cal and Stanford, and they seem to be paired

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Speaker 3: I don't I want to react to this, but I

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Speaker 3: don't because last time it felt like it was trending

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Speaker 3: the same place again. But I all I can think

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Speaker 3: get anyone to pay them thirty one million dollars per school,

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Speaker 3: so it imploded. But if the ACC takes Stanford and cal,

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Speaker 2: Okay, see see and and and I responded to it.

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Speaker 2: See this is actually much more simple as well, much

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Speaker 2: more simple than it sounds, because everything that Stu Mandel

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Speaker 2: a plato or PLUMO, like like the like the infamous

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Speaker 2: And the PAC twelve it was offered silver by when

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Speaker 2: You could have done that and then you would have

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Speaker 2: been in a much better position. But the PAC twelve

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Speaker 2: games because they're sleeping, they're like, yeah, yeah, the team's good,

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Speaker 2: trying to find this was Fox's doing. And Fox was

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Speaker 2: like okay, well, well cool. Instead of us doing what

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Speaker 2: No, there exactly. You You are actually hitting more people

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Speaker 2: So that's that's why Ralph they the Pac twelve didn't

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Speaker 3: What it feels like to me is record company execs

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Speaker 3: We don't care if it's together. We're gonna make money

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Speaker 2: And they're like, and yeah they can. They're eighteen now,

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Speaker 3: And they can afford to wait. And so what do

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Speaker 2: Is there anything more geographically now? The word is that

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Speaker 3: Like what what?

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Speaker 2: How does this make any sense? And then you got Oregon,

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Speaker 3: Somebody did the math and said that, like the teams

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Speaker 2: No, But but for schools that don't fly commercial and

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Speaker 3: And for somebody who played in the NFL, West to

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Speaker 3: And I've never been able to pinpoint it. I always

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Speaker 3: I don't understand that phenomenon, but I look at the

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Speaker 2: What do you mean the SMU wants that. It's not

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Speaker 2: Do you realize how much money that SMU has and

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Speaker 3: it would be a far un conference to be part of.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't make sense at all to me when

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Speaker 2: The AAC Because what they what they want is so

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Speaker 2: you can remain a conference right for two years even

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Speaker 2: PAC twelve. I promise you that. Do you know why?

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Speaker 3: Because of the basketball credits yep.

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Speaker 2: Sixty five million dollars in basketball credits. So that allows

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Speaker 3: If everybody bounces, what happens to the sixty five million dollars?

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Speaker 2: It goes to the people who earned it. If the

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Speaker 2: if the conference dissolves, then Oregon gets their credits, Oregon

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Speaker 2: State gets their credits, UCLA gets theirs. Yes, so so USC, UCLA, Oregon,

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Speaker 2: and Washington and you know Arizona are like cool, but

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Speaker 2: y'all break up, please please, because we're going already. So

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Speaker 2: y'all can break this whole thing up. That's more money

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Speaker 3: Man. Well, I I mean, so then we talked about SMU.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's get into Cal because Cal named a starting

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Speaker 3: Let's just I'm I'm curious, I wish the best for SI.

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Speaker 3: Uh okay, So moving on to Colorado, George, I consider

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Speaker 2: Fight, except your door.

435
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Speaker 3: Except yeah, with that that that's a given on any

436
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 3: team except for I guess the Baltimore Ravens where Justin

437
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: Tucker was about that action when they when they had

438
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 3: a fight on the practice field. But how did you

439
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: feel about that? Because I feel like in any other

440
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: context in the world, that's like the opposite of two

441
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: wrongs don't make a right, which is a wisdom that's ingrained.

442
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: I would say that it's a good concept for trying

443
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: to build a team and a family and all of

444
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: that stuff, but it's hard to really instill that at

445
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 2: a high level when you are when you have them,

446
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: when what you've done with the roster has created a

447
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: mercenary mindset.

448
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 3: Okay, so you think he's pushing back against the culture

449
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: he created.

450
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 2: Correct?

451
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, okay, yeah.

452
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's trying to make it a team while

453
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: also saying, listen, if you ain't good enough, we're getting

454
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: you up out of here, this, this, and this. So

455
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: it's trying to create more like a professional mindset. And dude,

456
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: I cannot wait for Colorado to start playing football because

457
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: they are the biggest mystery. Think about this, Dion, Like,

458
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: we look at this schedule and then We're like, there's

459
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: no way that they have to be starting one and

460
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: four in their first five games. But he's talked us

461
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: up so much that like now we're like, what if

462
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: he wins some of these games? What if he's two

463
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: and three after five? He has talked us into believing

464
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: something that we know is extremely unlikely.

465
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I still I got a couple

466
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 3: of people pushing back on the two and ten thing

467
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: I said in the last podcast, but I said the

468
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: best two in ten ever not good enough. But Deion

469
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 3: Sanders did have an interview this week where he's like, no,

470
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 3: we're gonna win, and I'm like, what what does that mean?

471
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 3: You know, you don't expect the coach to come out

472
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 3: and be specific or whatever. But I will tell you

473
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Speaker 3: I did appreciate that. I think it makes sense on

474
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: the football field, not always, but in practice yeah maybe

475
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: not in a game situation, in life not so much.

476
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: I will tell you. Having that mindset and my family

477
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: has that mindset. I don't go to many bars with

478
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 3: my family because if one fights, we all fight. Is fine,

479
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 3: as long as one doesn't fight every time we go out.

480
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 3: So that's why I moved halfway across the globe, so

481
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: that there's less opportunities for me to be part of

482
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: the all in that scenario. Smart Let's jump down to Oregon,

483
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: and the only thing I really have for Oregon right

484
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: now is to talk about the Uh.

485
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: It's so funny to me that that's alphabetical order A

486
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: A CC oh. Yeah.

487
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 3: Yeah. But the weird thing is, it's like, all right, well,

488
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 3: if we're if we're, if we're being like technical about it,

489
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: and you don't include the word university, then I should

490
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 3: be talking about UCLA before this, And I don't even

491
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: it's too much. It's too much, so I go with

492
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: the U. So I put them at the end. Yeah.

493
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Speaker 3: Oregon is staging a preseason Heisman campaign for Bonnicks, and

494
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 3: they're doing it in two very interesting places. They have

495
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: billboards of him in New York City and in Dallas, Texas.

496
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 3: I'm very curious as to what your thoughts are about this.

497
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: I think if you got the money to do something

498
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 3: like this, I love it. I love it when rivals

499
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 3: put billboards in there and their other colleges down.

500
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: They need to put it here in La like they

501
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: did a long time ago, which piss usc off to

502
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: the highest level of pistivity.

503
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: Boy, why Dallas and New York? Well, obviously New York,

504
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 3: but why Dallas.

505
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: That's a legitimate question. Oh well, because it's probably going

506
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: to get more press in Dallas, Okay. And people are like, oh,

507
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: they're trying to buy the heisman it dude, Listen. I've

508
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: seen so much pushback on this from aka smart guy journalists,

509
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is not about bo Knicks and

510
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: the high Like, this is ten percent bon Nicks and

511
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: the Heisman. This is ninety percent what Oregon wants, which

512
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: is people talking about Oregon. This is branding. This says

513
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: recruits looking at that and saying, oh my god, that

514
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: could be me, Bro Oregan's don't Bro. They put built

515
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: like it is.

516
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: It's that.

517
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: It is branding. It is no different than than Nike

518
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: putting up a witness you know those witness billboards all

519
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: over the place. It's no different. And a reporter said

520
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: said to me, So I responded to Aaron Finterest about that,

521
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: and he said and he was responding to d White.

522
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: I forgot what his name is, and I said that,

523
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: and Aaron was like, oh my god, Well, well, maybe

524
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm just giving recruits more credit. Than to think that

525
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: they'll make a decision based upon a billboard or something.

526
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: I was like, do you not know recruits? Like cool stuff?

527
00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: And then and then and I responded, and he said,

528
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: I don't think you know what you're talking about. I

529
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: was like, I'm around recruitis you don't know, I don't know.

530
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: Of all the people who don't know, I'm not one

531
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: of them. Like I'm around kids that I can call

532
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: DM or get on FaceTime with probably thirty kids forty

533
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: kids who have been to USC UCLA, Oregon and in

534
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: the last twelve months that are currently in high school.

535
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: And if not, I can get a hold of them

536
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: super quickly because they know my son or my or

537
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: my nephew or tea like anybody. And we're gonna sit

538
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: up here like, bro, like I mean, you go back

539
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: to Rashata. I can call Rashata, I can call Dylan Ryola,

540
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 2: any of these kids, Elijah Brown, like especially the quarterback.

541
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: And you're gonna tell me I don't know, Bro, I

542
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: know more than I know, more than I'm allowed to say,

543
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: Like all right, it was insanity to me.

544
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: All right, quick question and I'll do the same right

545
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: after you do. You are going into your season senior season,

546
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: you are a Heisman hopeful. A booster comes to you

547
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: and says, you get five billboards and you get to

548
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: tell me where to put them. Where are your propaganda

549
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: billboards going?

550
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: LA number one, first and first and foremost New York City.

551
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Dallas Atlanta, Okay, because he because

552
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: I'm reaching into that South because I need some of

553
00:31:53,800 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: them big bodies, bro. And I'm putting one in Florida.

554
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: Florida kids don't really like leaving Florida. Oh no, do

555
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: you know where I'm.

556
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: Putting one where? I'm putting one in Charlotte, So because

557
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: I can, I can look out my window and just

558
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 3: see your face, bro.

559
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: Because because North Carolina, them kids they like Mac Brown

560
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: is getting a lot of big time recruits. They putting

561
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: out a lot of kids out of that state. So

562
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm putting one there.

563
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 3: Damn hell, Drake Many. They got monsters at quarterback out

564
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: here too.

565
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. So that's where I'm putting mine.

566
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going hometown. Only twenty thousand people live there,

567
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: but it's it's northern Wyoming, and I just want people

568
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: to see like I made something for myself.

569
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: We gotta know they'll see where they'll they'll they'll see

570
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: them on television.

571
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if everybody has TV out there yet.

572
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: Uh.

573
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: We gotta go. Uh, we gotta go Phoenix. Uh, just

574
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: because I want one above Magic City in Atlanta, right

575
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 3: across from the Greyhound station. One in New York too,

576
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: so that people will never meet are like, who the

577
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: hell is that?

578
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm the one in Atlanta. I'm putting it in

579
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Airport in the most of notous place possible.

580
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: Just or paint a plane. Yep, that would be great. Uh.

581
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: And then I probably I'm probably putting one next to

582
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: the University of Oregon, just for you. When I get

583
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: my University of Wyoming Heisman campaign.

584
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: We've got to recruit from there.

585
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: Oh that's true, that's true. Justin Herbert. You guys got

586
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: any more?

587
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert's Okay, if you're banking on that, buddy.

588
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589
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591
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592
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Oregon State. This one's fascinating.

593
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: This week because in a big like no doy dj

594
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: hugyl dj uyag lala, Oh my gosh, I almost fumbled

595
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: that I know better. He was named the starter Oregon State.

596
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: If he wasn't named the starter Oregon State, we have

597
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: big problem. This is a former five star, but he

598
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 3: also came out and he was pretty honest about how

599
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: he felt about Clemson's offense and what he's doing. Now.

600
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: I want to read you this quote because it is

601
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 3: Clemson fans aren't taking it well. I didn't want to

602
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 3: do what I was doing at Clemson. I didn't really

603
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: like what we did their scheme wise, I didn't think

604
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: we did very much. I thought it was very basic.

605
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: It didn't help me out as a quarterback and play

606
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: to my strengths. I wanted to go somewhere that would

607
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: play to my strengths and go somewhere that would develop

608
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 3: me for the NFL. Play action, work under center, throw

609
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: the ball deep. This is the man who followed Trevor

610
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 3: Lawrence saying I wanted to go somewhere that would get

611
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: be ready for the NFL and to not to not

612
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: like dismiss Oregon State jigling, he is just throw a

613
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 3: touchdown pass in a preseason NFLGA.

614
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: He is one hundred percent right. Really, Clemson's offense is

615
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: not is not that deal, bro. They just had two

616
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: generational players in Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence. DJ is

617
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: not the generational player. Can he be a really good quarterback, absolutely,

618
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 2: but generational not not so much.

619
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Speaker 3: And he needs to be developed. He says, he needs to.

620
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: Be correct correct more than those other guys did. And

621
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 2: they fit better in the system because they were runners,

622
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: and that actually put more stress on the defense and

623
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: allow more things to be open for them. And that's

624
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: why you didn't see Kate Klupnik looked bad last year.

625
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: I was at the game where I was at the

626
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: game in person against Syracuse where he replaced DJ, and

627
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: he looked bad and he got lucky. He got lucky.

628
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying, is that is that Clemson

629
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: now with their new offensive coordinator, are they going to

630
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: make any changes. They they should be, But it's kind

631
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: of like Urban Meyer. Right when we watched the Swamp

632
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: Kings thing and then you look at it and I

633
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 2: went back and watched some old Florida film, they were

634
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: running the triple option. That's why that offense would get

635
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: stoned some sometimes is when you had people who had

636
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: the athletes or the scheme to be able to or

637
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: the scheme and the discipline to just tackle the right people.

638
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: But then at that point in time, the the the

639
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: talent won out.

640
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also why they would jump on people and

641
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 3: then people be making halftime adjustments on them. Yep, exactly,

642
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: all right, So you don't think DJ was overly on it.

643
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 3: Maybe mentioned Clemson a few too many times.

644
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: No, No, I got no problem with that, Okay, but

645
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: I hope that he continues to play well because if not,

646
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: it's it's a man named Aiden Aiden Childs who is

647
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: just just licking his chops, waiting on his opportunity. And

648
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised that in blowouts that if

649
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: he got a series or two and stuff like that,

650
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: in games that feel you know, you know, when they're

651
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: playing against Colorado or something like that.

652
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: So let's jump into U C. L A. And this

653
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: is not a news or note. This is a conspiracy theory.

654
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: And you know me, I'm not a not really conspiracy theorist.

655
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: Because they haven't named the starter yet.

656
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: No, they have not, they have not, And it's down

657
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: to Dante Moor, Ethan Garber's, Ethan Garber's younger brother, Chase

658
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 3: Garber's absolutely like cartoonish high school status.

659
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Oh and the and the So the kid that transferred

660
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: from from Kent State is out?

661
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 3: Oh the run the running.

662
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: Back No, no, no, no, the quarterback who transferred in.

663
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: I don't think he's at this point. I think it's

664
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: down to two quarterbacks. As far as the competition, there

665
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: are insiders twenty four to seven. A few others are

666
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: reporting they believe that Ethan Garber's has the edge. Here's

667
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: where I come into my conspiracy theory. I don't think

668
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: Chip Kelly knows. I don't think he knows. I think

669
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 3: he's taking this competition into the season against Coastal Carolina.

670
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: I think we'll see both quarterbacks. Is it a good idea?

671
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: If I'm right? If I'm right, is it a good

672
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: idea to take a quarterback competition into this season, especially

673
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: when you're opening a point opponent is legit.

674
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: They're legit, but they're out talenting them. What I would

675
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: do if I were him, I would do exactly what

676
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh did last year. I would start one of

677
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: them versus Coastal Carolina the other one versus of San

678
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: Diego State, and then let the chips fall where they

679
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: may after that.

680
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 3: So give give Ethan Garber's a full game, give Dante

681
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: more a full game.

682
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 2: Yes, and unless they just think yeah.

683
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: Because that and it would put them up against lesser

684
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: talent but very good coaching. Correct. I like that. I

685
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: like that. I do think that we'll see both quarterbacks.

686
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: And I do believe Chip Kelly does not know. And

687
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: it's okay to not know.

688
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: Chip doesn't do to two quarterback thing. Okay, he picks one.

689
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 2: So if I don't think we'll see both of them

690
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: in a in a game unless the other one's bad,

691
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: or unless it's a blowout. But I do think that

692
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: there is a very real possibility that you he starts

693
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: won one game, won the next game, and then makes

694
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: a choice.

695
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: Okay, because yeah, My whole thing is I feel the

696
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: same way you do about Chip Kelly. He's gonna stick

697
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: with one quarterback. However, there's no reason strategically to hold

698
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: back who the starting quarterback is going to be from

699
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 3: an opponent.

700
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: Well, that's what Chip does, So dude, somebody on I

701
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: that's what Chip. I'm just telling you. If if if

702
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: one of the dudes broke a fingernail, Chip, Chip Chip

703
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: would be like, Uh, he's got a he's got a

704
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: thing with his fingers. No, No, he's got he's he's

705
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: dealing with something, not not major. He was like, he's

706
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: dealing with something. He wouldn't even be specific.

707
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: If you need to play mind games of Coastal Carolina.

708
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: It's not. It's not even playing mind games. This is

709
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: just who he is and what he's gonna do.

710
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: But so do you think he would believe that it's

711
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: good for the team to know who their starting quarterback

712
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: is going to be? Do you think he's expressed to

713
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: the team and he's just said keep it quiet, Because

714
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: I don't.

715
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: Think the the the team knows who's the starting quarterback.

716
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: The team knows, like in their gut or like he

717
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: has said, that's probably gonna be.

718
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: Based upon the reps and how things are going and

719
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: talked about in meetings and how the conversation has happened

720
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: in meetings, they know who the starter is.

721
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: All right, all right, maybe maybe I'm I'm going off

722
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: the deep end here, but I I don't think it's settled.

723
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: And the one thing we know about the TAC twelve

724
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: is multiple quarterbacks are going to play for every team anyway.

725
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: So let's get into Stanford, who is still not named

726
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 3: a starting.

727
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa, you jumped, you jumped USC.

728
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 3: We got a lot to I was gonna say the USC.

729
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, well you said alphabetical order, So then

730
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: let's go to Stanford.

731
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: But I want to finish with the game previews. So

732
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: actually I did forget USC. And this is the excuse

733
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: that I'm making up on the spot, so for a

734
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 3: little bit of a hint for everybody as to how

735
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 3: my brain works and how easy it is for me

736
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 3: to tell a lie. So uh, let's get into Stanford.

737
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 3: There's not really much news come out about the team

738
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: and the starting quarterback spot. I still think it's gonna

739
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 3: be justin Lambson. But I do want to get into

740
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: David Shaw's comments about how Stanford got caught flat footed

741
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: and is now without a conference. Here's what David Shaw

742
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: had to say. It's a new era right now, and

743
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 3: if you don't play by the rules that everybody else

744
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: plays by, and you sit and wait, you are left out.

745
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: And that is where the conference is, and that's where

746
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: my school is right now waiting for something else to

747
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: happen that uh hourly that can salvage something.

748
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: He's one hundred percent right, dude. If you Stanford, Stanford,

749
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: of all people putting out all these smart tech millionaires,

750
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: geniuses of thought and all of this just negated the

751
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 2: most important rule in life. If you failed to prepare,

752
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: you prepare to fail. I mean that, I mean Stanford

753
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 2: everything they do, check, double check, cut twice, measure, measure twice,

754
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: cut once, all of these things, you know, the the

755
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: scientific method, the research and researching. Who the hell was

756
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: researching right Who? Who the hell was making a plan?

757
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 2: They're like, I We'll figure it out.

758
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: I don't.

759
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's gonna happen. Like like they

760
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: were just sitting sitting there just guessing when in reacity,

761
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 2: had Stanford been proactive, like very proactive, had a couple

762
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: of conversations with Jack Swarbrick over at Notre Dame, they

763
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: would be in a much different position than they are

764
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: right now. It's almost like they forgot or didn't realize.

765
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: Hold up, we don't really have that grade of a

766
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: fan base. The brand and the name Stanford Care is

767
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: a lot of weight so people are going to want us, like,

768
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: we got to be proactive. We can't just get left

769
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: in the dust. And it was and it was like

770
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: they didn't realize that Oregon and Washington and all them that,

771
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: despite them wanting the conference to survive to where they

772
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: were like, yeah, brother, sca't I'm dude, as of when

773
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: USC and UCLA left, and we talked about it on

774
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: this show, everybody should have been on high alert and

775
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: trying to look out for them and at least keeping

776
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: an escape patch. Oregon and Washington had clearly had an

777
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: escape patch because they got vetted last year. So at

778
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 2: that point in time, Stanford should have been getting themselves

779
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: vetted or figuring out a plan for potential independence or

780
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: something like that. And then as soon as the news

781
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: about the four Corner schools and all of that started

782
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 2: coming coming out and they were in meetings. No, we're

783
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 2: committed all of that, Dude, that there is not everything

784
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: that's printed in the media is true. But where there's smoke,

785
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: there's at least an ember. Yeah, if you hear it

786
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: enough times, there's at least a little something going on there,

787
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: a little something.

788
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 3: I Stanford to me, you remember that movie I know

789
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: you remember that movie the other guys of Mark Wahlberg

790
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: and Will Ferrell. Yep, Stanford to me is Sheila. You

791
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about? No, Will Ferrell's wife, Will

792
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: Ferrell's wife in that movie, right, He's married to this

793
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: absolute knockout eleven out of ten. But Will Ferrell doesn't

794
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 3: care about her at all, and Mark Wahlberg is always

795
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: like super nice to her. But Will Ferrell doesn't care

796
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: about Hurdle. I forget who actually plays the role. It's

797
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 3: Ryan Gosling's wife in real life. But yeah, so the

798
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 3: the whole point is like Will Ferrell has her, doesn't

799
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: value her, but anybody else would, right, And that's how

800
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: I feel about Stanford. Like their own fans don't seem

801
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: to care, but anybody else would want to have them

802
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 3: around because they do have that Notre Dame energy. All

803
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: you have to do is replace one word when you're

804
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: talking about how people feel about Stanford is like I

805
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: would love to whip those Catholic nerds asses, right, Like

806
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 3: that's how people feel about Notre Dame. They want to

807
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 3: play him so they can beat him. I feel like

808
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: people feel the same way about Stanford. Was like I

809
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: want to whip those liberal nerds' asses. You know, I

810
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 3: think that Stanford actually would be an awesome addition as

811
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: a national brand for literally anyone. And the fact that

812
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: they were flat footed is crazy. And the other thing

813
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 3: that David Shaw brought up that I think is really

814
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 3: important to remember is that football coaches. Football coaches are

815
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 3: not natural followers. They have to if they're an assistant

816
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 3: and they're working the way up the ladder, But the

817
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: whole point is that they're trying to be a leader.

818
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: They're not trying to have to answer to very many people,

819
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: and they're trying to be the boss of a whole

820
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 3: lot of people. And so you had a lot of

821
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: football coaches who were having to follow the lead of

822
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: Larry Scott and you know that internally they were in hell.

823
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: And some of those coaches didn't do a good job

824
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 3: of hiding that. Rich Rod when he was at Arizona,

825
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 3: was always making fun of the conference. Well, Shaw, David Shaw,

826
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 3: you know that he hated it. And he had another

827
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 3: quote here and don't want to read it to you.

828
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: More than warning signs that felt like bombs were going

829
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: off around us. We all knew the first contract as

830
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: the PAC twelve was right around my first year, the

831
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 3: big contract, and we didn't get a lot of money

832
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 3: that was promised. The direct TV deal never came through.

833
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: A lot of things didn't happen, so that first deal

834
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: was just not what we hoped it to be. And

835
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: all the conferences signed better deals than ours, and we

836
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: signed a longer term deal, so they actually re up

837
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: theres before we got to ours, so it was bad

838
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 3: on both sides. The bottom line was we knew school

839
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 3: by school we were getting less money than everybody, less

840
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 3: coverage than everybody, and we were hoping this deal was

841
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: going to be much better and more lucrative and keep

842
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: the conference together.

843
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if everybody knew that, why did you give

844
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: him a new contract?

845
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 3: But the coaches aren't in charge of that.

846
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 2: But that's the issue, is that the presidents aren't always

847
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: in touch with what's going on. So in addition to

848
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: the presidents being part of these meetings, the athletic directors

849
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: should have had a better say, yeah, in this.

850
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: We need because at twelve edition.

851
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: Yes these are sports decisions and not like just universe,

852
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: So like the athletic directors should should have about a

853
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: sixty percent vote, and then you know the other powers,

854
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: the regents or whoever else should have another twenty and

855
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: then the president should have twenty percent or fifty twenty

856
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: five twenty five.

857
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: True. Uh, Let's let's jump to Utah because this is

858
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: another interesting coaching quote. Kyle Whittingham was asked about the

859
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 3: rivalry with BYU the Holy War becoming a permanent conference

860
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: game now that they're moving to the Big twelve. This

861
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: was what he had to say about that. This is

862
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 3: Kyle Whittingham, head coach of Utah. Well, first of all,

863
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: you use the word permanently, and I can say it's

864
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 3: far from that. I think in two to three, maybe

865
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: five years on the outside, everything's gonna change again. So

866
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: this might be a quick couple of years of the

867
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 3: game returning and then everything's gonna blow up again and

868
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: people will go their separate ways.

869
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: That sounds like a man is sick and tired of

870
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: being sick of tired. He's like, listen, I don't even

871
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: give a you know whatever, bro whatever, All right, Yes, yes,

872
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 2: we're gonna play them. It's it's not permanent, Like, let's

873
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: not use the permanent word. Let's take it for what

874
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: it is. It'll probably blow up anyway. I mean, that's

875
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 2: just that's a that's a man that's sick and tired.

876
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: That's not a man who is.

877
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: A reflective of Utah's attitude of not even wanting to

878
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: be in the Big twelve in the first place, being

879
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 3: forced into the situation.

880
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he's just like we're It's like the Marshawn Lynch.

881
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: I'm just here so I don't get fined.

882
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: I love that and I also love that it would

883
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 3: that anything that will annoy b WHYU fans on the

884
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 3: other side of this rivalry. He's basically saying, like they

885
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: want to be here, we don't. We get the opportunity.

886
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: They're still gonna wink yes, whatever, bro, because this is

887
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 3: what they aspire to. We want more.

888
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 2: We're here for now, you know, Like it's cool, weird,

889
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 2: it's very funny. We are We are here until we're not. Okay,

890
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: So take that.

891
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: Let's jump to University of Washington. The news that is

892
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: out of dub is, Oh my god, that's positive.

893
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: Stepping stone job, dude. The Washing Washington is clearly a

894
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: stepping stone job. Their their defensive coordinator, Kiwatowski left for

895
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: a vert of what was a lateral move to Texas.

896
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: Their athletic director Jim Cohen, who has done a really

897
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 2: good job up there. She's smart, talented, measured, got got

898
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: helped assist Washington go to the Big ten. And then

899
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: she was like Saya Nara pals of leaving the rainy

900
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: state for the sunny state.

901
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: Buddy, Audios, are you only complimenting Jen Cohen to further

902
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: hurt Washington fans feelings?

903
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: I've complimented her pregment. No, No, I've complimented her prior, remember,

904
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: like yeah.

905
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: Yeah you have Yeah, so Washington is hiring. You're gonna apply? No,

906
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: you should publicly apply and tags tag your boy softy.

907
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god, tweeter right now? Where could I get

908
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 3: an application and tag soft you doing it?

909
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 2: Yes?

910
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 3: Fantastic?

911
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

912
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to beat out Ray Anderson though? Why why?

913
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 2: Why would he want that job?

914
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: Oh? Isn't like Seattle's like the best? He would love

915
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 3: living there? Why wouldn't he want it? He would definitely

916
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: mean like, if I was Ray Anderson, I would want

917
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 3: to leave as.

918
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: You why you you clearly are teflon there.

919
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 3: I just I think University of Washington is a better

920
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: opportunity for me if I'm Ray Anderson, and I don't.

921
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody be sad to see me go.

922
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: In fact, they might throw me a party, and maybe

923
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 3: I want to have a party.

924
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 2: Okay, So where can I get an application to be

925
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: the next ad of Washington Athletics at softy.

926
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 3: Fantastic?

927
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: I will do a great job.

928
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 3: Okay, so be honest because no, no.

929
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: No should I should? I should?

930
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 3: I say that, yes, yes, you should.

931
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: I will do a great job. Here's my I would

932
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: do a great job and won't treat it like a

933
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: stepping stone.

934
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 3: Oh my, twist the knife twice. That's fantastic. Can't wait

935
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 3: to see how this goes. Here's my question. Oregon's rivalry

936
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: isn't just with Washington, it's also with USC. You're all

937
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 3: leaving to the Big ten together. You've praised Jen Cohen,

938
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 3: She's going to USC. Does that bother you a little bit?

939
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: She does a good job. She's not out of her

940
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 3: hair yet.

941
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 2: No, no, dude, anybody worried about her? Dude? I'm saying like,

942
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: like you're worried about USC, the brand, the recruiting, the coaching,

943
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: You're not worried about dude. She couldn't get the basketball

944
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 2: coach right, So.

945
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 3: Okay, they did have years and years of an incompetent

946
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 3: ad up there in in in Usc, like they had

947
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 3: Lynn Swan out here playing golf. Then they brought Mike Bonan,

948
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 3: who is you know, Michael Scott from the racial Sensitivity

949
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 3: episode apparently, And so you're gonna get a competent ad

950
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: at USC. They might that might be the final piece

951
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: of the puzzle for them to start dominating everything.

952
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so tweet it, sorry, tweet tweet a scent and

953
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: uh and I and I put a gift of their

954
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: mascot holding about down uh about down time.

955
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: I like it. Your tweets related to this show have

956
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: never gotten us in trouble before.

957
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: Hey, but hold up, but who who instigates all tweets?

958
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I don't feel very good about myself right now.

959
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I just accelerated it with the

960
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: I won't treat it like a stepping stone thing.

961
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I do want to bring up one other thing.

962
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: University of Washington Cam Davis out for the season. They

963
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 3: love Cam Davis. That the way that they're talking that sucks, sucks. Yeah.

964
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: Gryan Grubb, the OC is saying, there's no other way

965
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: to describe it. It's a huge loss. He was the

966
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 3: heart and soul of how we're supposed to operate. It hurts.

967
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: It hurts a ton. Everybody in the offensive room and

968
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: the team, honestly, their heart skipped a beat when they

969
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: knew he was going to miss the season. Uh. He's

970
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 3: worked really, really hard. He's a really good I spend

971
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 3: a long time. They love him. I personally feel like

972
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 3: Washington's got the deepest running back room in the conference.

973
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: That's how I feel. I know you don't feel the

974
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 3: same way I do. They added Daniel and Gatta, they

975
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 3: still I think their fifth stringer is.

976
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got to remember that that Like, I mean,

977
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 2: if we're really being honest, the best running back rooms

978
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: in the conference are Oregon State Oregon because Oregon Oregon's

979
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: room has two NFL players in it for sure, or

980
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 2: Oregon States probably has two. I'm excited about, uh Stanley,

981
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: the freshman at Utah. I think he's gonna be really good.

982
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, those are the rooms I'm probably most excited about.

983
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.

984
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 3: I I think Dylan Johnson could be special for them.

985
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 3: He played for Mike Leach at Mississippi State. You know,

986
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 3: they don't like to run the ball, but he's still

987
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 3: getting five point two yards of carry. He's a good

988
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 3: pass cat well. And then they have players that have

989
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 3: been on the team forever. Will Nixon's been on the

990
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 3: team forever. Richard Newton has been on the team forever.

991
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 3: Sam Adams the second has been on the team forever,

992
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 3: and they added Daniel and Gotta from ASU. I think

993
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 3: they'll be fine at running back. But the way they're

994
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: talking about it is like this was a massive, massive

995
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 3: blow for them.

996
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: Yes, it is massive blow.

997
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 3: Last thing, I think we already got into to Washington

998
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 3: State and where you think they'll where you think they belong.

999
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 3: I think you say, stick around, negotiate. There will be

1000
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 3: no Washington. Washington State agrees to go to the Mountain West.

1001
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think that it is going to be

1002
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: a merger that is eventually going to be the resolution

1003
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 2: to this whole thing for them, which is best case

1004
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: scenario for them.

1005
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into UFC because there's a couple of things.

1006
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 3: First of all, I never even considered that this was possible,

1007
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 3: but ever since Colin Cowhard said it on the air,

1008
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 3: and you know he pays really close attention to the

1009
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 3: USC program. Ever since he said this on the air,

1010
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 3: I can't stop thinking about it and how dumb it

1011
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 3: would be, but how possible it could be. Colin Cowhard

1012
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 3: said that USC should skip the Pac twelve Championship if

1013
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 3: they get in.

1014
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: They already got a week off prior prior to it.

1015
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: What else do they want and why should they skip it?

1016
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 3: Because he has essentially said who cares? Like the conference

1017
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 3: is dying? He says it probably won't happen, but it's

1018
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:44,959
Speaker 3: fascinating to think about.

1019
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: No, it's not fascinating to think about if you if

1020
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: you're USC and you want a chance to play for

1021
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: a national championship and potentially get another Heisman trophy, you

1022
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: better play in the conference championship. I don't even know

1023
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: what Colin's thinking about.

1024
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so here's what I'll read it to you.

1025
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 3: If you're USC and you're eleven and one in your rank,

1026
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 3: third in the country, why would you play in the

1027
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: PAC twelve Championship game? What do you benefit? There's only

1028
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: a losing proposition. No, there's not, because why would you

1029
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 3: risk Kayleb Williams getting hurt?

1030
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: That? That is insanity, bro, Because because whoever you play

1031
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: Oregon Washington, UH, Oregon State, Utah is going to be

1032
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: in the top ten, and you think that you're gonna

1033
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: skip the game against the top ten opponent, and and

1034
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: and especially if it's one of the teams that wasn't

1035
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: on your schedule, and it's gonna be like, oh yeah,

1036
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: oh yeah, they got in that that we're just gonna

1037
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: put them into the championship with that. And then there's

1038
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: the assumption that USC is gonna be undefeated anyway, because.

1039
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 3: Even if they're eleven and one, eleven and.

1040
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: One and you're gonna skip your conference championship, that means

1041
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: you lost either to Notre Dame or in your conference.

1042
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: Get out, get out of here, Colin, you lost your

1043
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: damn mind.

1044
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, And I think they'd get made

1045
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 3: fun of for eternity, But don't you think it would

1046
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: at least cross their mind.

1047
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: No, it's not gonna get you into the playoff if

1048
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: you skip your conference championship game.

1049
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: You think they get punished by a committee that has

1050
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 3: jen co in on.

1051
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: It one hundred percent, one hundred percent.

1052
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 3: It is Do you think this is an all time

1053
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 3: shit stir and that there is a zero point zero

1054
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: percent chance that USC, even if they're undefeated, would say, like,

1055
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: why do we need to play in this game?

1056
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: One hundred one, one hundred percent. It would be different

1057
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: if you were playing the conference championship game against like Rutgers,

1058
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: if you were playing against BUT or you're playing against

1059
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: a five win team.

1060
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: You would be leaving a lot of money on the

1061
00:59:59,280 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: table too.

1062
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: Bro, it's it's it's insanity. No no, no, no, no,

1063
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: no no no no.

1064
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 3: I can't, Bro, I can't. All right, let's uh, let's

1065
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 3: get into it. We got one game this week. It

1066
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: is USC San Jose State. A little bit frustrated with

1067
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 3: the fact that this game is on PAC twelve network

1068
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 3: because you have the defending Heisman winner, defending Heisman winner,

1069
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 3: and this game is being played, Uh at at I

1070
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: believe five pm Pacific? Am I wrong about that?

1071
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: I think it's been Yes, it is five pm Pacific.

1072
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 3: Okay, So FS one is going to have Ohio at

1073
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 3: San Diego State, ESPN is gonna have UMass at New Mexico.

1074
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 3: But this is NBC. He has Navy Notre Dame earlier

1075
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: in the day, and USC is playing on the.

1076
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,919
Speaker 2: The Heisman Trophy winner is playing on the PAC twelve

1077
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: network in like thirteen million homes, and.

1078
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to check the ticker when you're watching

1079
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 3: UMass New Mexico State to find out how it's going.

1080
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to check the ticker in a

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01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 2: game you're not watching.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And to make matters even wilder, USC just announced

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01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 3: direct TV as a partner of their athletic program. What yeah,

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01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 3: dead ass serious?

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Speaker 2: So USC can be a partner of the This is stupid.

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01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 3: The USC is financially partnered with promoting DirecTV, a service

1087
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 3: that Pack twelve network is not on.

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01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: This is all time dumb, bro, all time dumb.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So yes, thirty one points.

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Speaker 2: This is so packed twelve.

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01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 3: This is so a lot to digest. It's a lot

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01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 3: to digest us. He's a thirty one point favorite over

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01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: under sixty six and a half. Hate the line, literally

1094
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 3: hate the line. Brent Brandon's a great coach. They play

1095
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 3: a very good brand of football. Defensively, they're very good

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01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 3: against the run. That is not going to help them

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01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 3: against Caleb Williams and USC.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: So let's get into it.

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01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: Is Butterfield going to be the quarterback.

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01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 3: Of Saying Jose State or it was like somebody's gonna

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01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,479
Speaker 3: start over Caleb Williams. I believe so, but I don't.

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01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sure.

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01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 2: I can't wait. I cannot wait to watch this kid play.

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01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 3: I just want to Oregon. Yes, okay, that's what we're

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01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 3: talking about. Yeah, I don't know. Because San Jose State

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01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 3: also has Chavon Cordero. Do you remember him. He was

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01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 3: at Hawaii.

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01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: I think he might still on the team. I'm not

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01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 3: one hundred percent sure. I don't know much about San

1112
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 3: Jose State. I didn't look at anytime anybody's more than

1113
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 3: a thirty point favorite. I don't do as much research.

1114
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 3: I don't expect USC to lose this game. Cordero still

1115
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 3: is on the team, He's probably gonna stay starting. Butterfield's

1116
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: only a sophomore. They have Walker Egot, who you might

1117
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 3: have watched play. He's out of Santa Clarita. He's a really,

1118
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 3: really good high school quarterback. But yeah, it's gonna be

1119
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 3: Cordero's team. He's not going to be surprised by the

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01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 3: level of competition at all. They have a very good

1121
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 3: coach who could have jumped to the Pac twelve multiple times.

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01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 3: I think he was a finalist for that Arizona job,

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01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 3: and they have traditionally played very very good run defense.

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01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 3: They're a little small on the O line. It's gonna

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01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 3: be interesting to see what they do against that USC

1126
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: pass rush. But remember we are we have just finished

1127
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 3: a season in which USC gave up two hundred thousand points.

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Speaker 2: In two billion yards, yes and.

1129
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 3: Two billion yards. So I think I think San Jose

1130
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 3: State moves the ball. I think they take some time

1131
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 3: off the clock. I do not believe. I think thirty

1132
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: one points spread is absolutely insane. I'm gonna go on

1133
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 3: the record and say that if USC covers, I will

1134
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 3: be blown away.

1135
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 2: Wow Wow, I will. I am going to take San

1136
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: Jose State in the points. I'm going San Jose State

1137
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 2: in the points. You USC starting a freshman at linebacker

1138
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: in number fifty five, which is pretty damn cool because

1139
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: because that's their number, like you like LSU in number seven,

1140
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: that their best player or somebody that they feel is

1141
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 2: of the highest caliber gets that number. So I'm actually

1142
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: excited to see that.

1143
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 3: All right, So what we'll we'll. I'll do a better

1144
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 3: job of keeping track this year than usual. I'm taking

1145
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,919
Speaker 3: San Jose State in the points. So are you. Yeah,

1146
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying forty eight twenty four, So that give me

1147
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 3: the over.

1148
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm taking over in this game one hundred percent

1149
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: because if USC covers this, it is Santo San Jose

1150
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: State's at least gonna score twenty something points. I'm gonna

1151
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 2: give them somewhere between twenty one and twenty seven, and

1152
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 2: if they score between twenty one and twenty seven, USC

1153
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: is absolutely covering because they are absolutely winning this.

1154
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Speaker 3: Game, all right. So that's it. Are not a lot

1155
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 3: of effort put into preview of San Jose State versus USC.

1156
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 3: I don't pay attention to as many teams outside the

1157
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 3: Pac twelve, so out of conference is a little bit

1158
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 3: tough and than anything.

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Speaker 2: Well San Jose State in and of itself, because it's

1160
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 2: not a team that has a ton of ton of coverage.

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01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 2: Had USC been playing Notre Dame, this would have been

1162
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: much more extensive. I mean, but but I guess the

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01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,919
Speaker 2: question is who are we looking forward to seeing how

1164
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: they play for USC? For me, it's the defense. If

1165
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 2: you can't dominate San Jose State, we're gonna have It's

1166
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 2: gonna be a long year, buddy, And there's so much

1167
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: hope that things are different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've I've definitely got questions about and

1169
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 3: you feel free to make fun of me because I

1170
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 3: think you know why I've got questions about Brendan Rice.

1171
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 3: Whether he is just an athletic freak and he really

1172
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 3: is an athletic freak, or if he can be a

1173
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 3: dominant college wide receiver with the numbers to back it up.

1174
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Speaker 3: And it's not like they don't have enough receivers to

1175
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 3: just kind of get him out of the way and

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Speaker 3: go with somebody else. If you know, Michael Jackson is

1177
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 3: is a very good receiver relief Brown is obviously one

1178
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 3: of the you know, prize recruits for Lincoln Riley when

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01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 3: he first came in. They're gonna find a way to

1180
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: get the ball around. I think some freshmen will probably

1181
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 3: touch the ball. They brought in Dorian Singer, they brought

1182
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 3: in TOADJ. Washington, so they got all these transfers. I

1183
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 3: think Mario Williams was with wasn't he with Lincoln Riley

1184
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 3: at Oklahoma? So if you don't deform at wide receiver,

1185
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 3: you're gonna get your You're gonna find yourself on the sideline.

1186
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 3: I would like to see Brendan Rice be in every

1187
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 3: down receiver. I'd like to see Brendon Rice be a

1188
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 3: be a Day one or Day two NFL draft pick,

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Speaker 3: because I think he has the physicality to make that happen.

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Speaker 3: But if you got the Heisman winner at quarterback and

1191
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 3: you are six foot three, two hundred ten pounds, one

1192
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 3: of the fastest players on the team, one of the

1193
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 3: strongest players on the team, I don't care how talented

1194
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,919
Speaker 3: that wide receiver room is. I don't think you should

1195
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 3: be sharing reps with anybody. And so I again, I

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01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 3: love Brendan Rice. I know Brendan Rice. I covered Brendan

1197
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 3: Rice all through his high school career. I want to

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01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 3: see him step up. So I'm issuing a challenge to

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01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 3: him for sure.

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01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: Perfect we shall see what happens. And uh, you guys,

1201
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: he's Ralph Ams. Then I'm George Rice. This is the

1202
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: PAC twelve oposs So you guys share it with a friend.

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01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm mad at unafraid show dot Com. Peace out, Catch

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Speaker 2: you guys next week.